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	<title>Comments on: Sci-Fi TV Saturday: 2013, Doctor Who, Fringe, Lost, Smallville, V + more</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Bernardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bernardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect lots of V questions when Morena Baccarin appears at the Creation Serenity/Firefly convention in Los Angeles in a few weekends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect lots of V questions when Morena Baccarin appears at the Creation Serenity/Firefly convention in Los Angeles in a few weekends.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Dunsel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Dunsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#79 durhamtrojan &#039; I just now the faces, and caught myself on more than one occasion explaining things in terms of “Juliet” and “Wash.” &#039;

Great point.  It&#039;s especially confusing when you consider that the lead female character in the original WAS named &quot;Juliet.&quot;  I *do* recall a lot of the names from the original (just have that sort of velcro brain), but it wasn&#039;t until reading your post that it occurred to me I couldn&#039;t name a SINGLE character from the new V, except for Anna.  They are all just, &quot;types&quot; - The Stolid FBI agent, The Visitor Gone Native, The Ambitious Reporter, The Conflicted Priest, The Rebelious Kid (someone please eat him soon!)

For drama to be effective you have to know a little bit about and at least somewhat care for a character BEFORE they are put into the hazardous or challenging situation.  &quot;North by Northwest&quot; would be nothing if it STARTED with the crop duster chasing Cary Grant across the field.

Yep - I think you&#039;ve hit on a core problem with the show, at least for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#79 durhamtrojan &#8216; I just now the faces, and caught myself on more than one occasion explaining things in terms of “Juliet” and “Wash.” &#8216;</p>
<p>Great point.  It&#8217;s especially confusing when you consider that the lead female character in the original WAS named &#8220;Juliet.&#8221;  I *do* recall a lot of the names from the original (just have that sort of velcro brain), but it wasn&#8217;t until reading your post that it occurred to me I couldn&#8217;t name a SINGLE character from the new V, except for Anna.  They are all just, &#8220;types&#8221; &#8211; The Stolid FBI agent, The Visitor Gone Native, The Ambitious Reporter, The Conflicted Priest, The Rebelious Kid (someone please eat him soon!)</p>
<p>For drama to be effective you have to know a little bit about and at least somewhat care for a character BEFORE they are put into the hazardous or challenging situation.  &#8220;North by Northwest&#8221; would be nothing if it STARTED with the crop duster chasing Cary Grant across the field.</p>
<p>Yep &#8211; I think you&#8217;ve hit on a core problem with the show, at least for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Dunsel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Dunsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81 Hat Rick

re: Foundation

There&#039;s a listing on IMDB for Foundation with a 2011 date.  However, since they list it &quot;in production&quot; the details are only available on their pay-service, IMDB Pro.  So it&#039;s hard to know how real it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81 Hat Rick</p>
<p>re: Foundation</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a listing on IMDB for Foundation with a 2011 date.  However, since they list it &#8220;in production&#8221; the details are only available on their pay-service, IMDB Pro.  So it&#8217;s hard to know how real it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Hat Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hat Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of new movies they should make, they should make a series of movies based on Asimov&#039;s Foundation novels.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of new movies they should make, they should make a series of movies based on Asimov&#8217;s Foundation novels.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Brain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, about &#039;V&#039;:
Yes, I found it pedestrian.

But beyond that: Does anybody here REALLY think that were gonna get a TV show of this &#039;caliber&#039; without the writers succumbing to the obvious political commentary? No, let me allow the writers to get off the hook - why wouldn&#039;t the Visitors (whom have been around for a while, according to the first ep) take advantage of the knowledge gleaned from their observations of us and hit us where it counts?

But wait... it still goes back to the writing. Forget it. &#039;V&#039; will be off the air by summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, about &#8216;V&#8217;:<br />
Yes, I found it pedestrian.</p>
<p>But beyond that: Does anybody here REALLY think that were gonna get a TV show of this &#8216;caliber&#8217; without the writers succumbing to the obvious political commentary? No, let me allow the writers to get off the hook &#8211; why wouldn&#8217;t the Visitors (whom have been around for a while, according to the first ep) take advantage of the knowledge gleaned from their observations of us and hit us where it counts?</p>
<p>But wait&#8230; it still goes back to the writing. Forget it. &#8216;V&#8217; will be off the air by summer.</p>
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		<title>By: durhamtrojan</title>
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		<dc:creator>durhamtrojan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked V also, but I was distinctly surprised to see on my DVR that it was only 1 hour.  Maybe not too much info, but they could have built up the reveal of Wash as a bad guy, cause that was a good twist.  I think they were in a lose-lose once they decided that they were going to follow the original series and have the Visitors be LIzard-folk.  Reveal it too soon and it doesn&#039;t have any impact. Drag it out too much and people would be upset that they built it up only to have it be the same as the original.  I&#039;m also finding that I&#039;m having a similar reaction as I did to the original that I have almost no perception of the characters&#039; names.  I just now the faces, and caught myself on more than one occasion explaining things in terms of &quot;Juliet&quot; and &quot;Wash.&quot;  I couldn&#039;t tell you a name from the original except John the head alien, same with this one, only Anna really stuck.  Poor character emphasis.  
And, everybody is just trying to copy BSG.  Defying Gravity was the worst example of paint by number imitation I&#039;ve seen.  Let&#039;s have space people+faith questions+a conspiracy+ ambiguous character morality and doesn&#039;t that =BSG? No? Why didn&#039;t that work? I don&#039;t get it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked V also, but I was distinctly surprised to see on my DVR that it was only 1 hour.  Maybe not too much info, but they could have built up the reveal of Wash as a bad guy, cause that was a good twist.  I think they were in a lose-lose once they decided that they were going to follow the original series and have the Visitors be LIzard-folk.  Reveal it too soon and it doesn&#8217;t have any impact. Drag it out too much and people would be upset that they built it up only to have it be the same as the original.  I&#8217;m also finding that I&#8217;m having a similar reaction as I did to the original that I have almost no perception of the characters&#8217; names.  I just now the faces, and caught myself on more than one occasion explaining things in terms of &#8220;Juliet&#8221; and &#8220;Wash.&#8221;  I couldn&#8217;t tell you a name from the original except John the head alien, same with this one, only Anna really stuck.  Poor character emphasis.<br />
And, everybody is just trying to copy BSG.  Defying Gravity was the worst example of paint by number imitation I&#8217;ve seen.  Let&#8217;s have space people+faith questions+a conspiracy+ ambiguous character morality and doesn&#8217;t that =BSG? No? Why didn&#8217;t that work? I don&#8217;t get it ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Dunsel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Dunsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>72 - Enterprise &quot;Dude, don’t read the thread if you don’t want to be spoiled.&quot;

You are cordially invited (yet again) to stop telling me what to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>72 &#8211; Enterprise &#8220;Dude, don’t read the thread if you don’t want to be spoiled.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are cordially invited (yet again) to stop telling me what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Lore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW  We&#039;ve already had &quot;KRYPTO&quot; superman&#039;s dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW  We&#8217;ve already had &#8220;KRYPTO&#8221; superman&#8217;s dog.</p>
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		<title>By: Lore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#73  Its a show about a man who is a hero, and wearing clothes, and what are you, an &quot;Anti-Gleekik&quot; or something?  Powers Activate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#73  Its a show about a man who is a hero, and wearing clothes, and what are you, an &#8220;Anti-Gleekik&#8221; or something?  Powers Activate!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. AtoZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. AtoZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Later this season, a major male character on &quot;The Vampire Diaries&quot; will be revealed to be a werewolf...OMG what crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Later this season, a major male character on &#8220;The Vampire Diaries&#8221; will be revealed to be a werewolf&#8230;OMG what crap.</p>
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