Comments on: More Details On Alternative Version of ‘Where No Man Has Gone Before’ In TOS Season 3 Blu-ray Set

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:05:32 +0000

Seems to me the “centerpiece” of the set is likely to be the Blu-Ray transfer of “The Cage,” not a new version of “Where No Man…” that differs in purely trivial ways from what was ultimately aired.

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:39:48 +0000

I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR CBS & TREKMOVIE.COM:
WHY….did the TOS-R AND BLURAY season sets NOT INCLUDE, the newly created, syndicated updated teaser trailers/promo’s airing now on tv to promote the episodes?????????????!!! Huh?
Why on the standard, TOS-R & now BD, do we only get the badly scratched, faded, noisey 1960’s tv promos?

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:33:15 +0000

Here’s my thought on Shatner’s tech savy. He owns 1 top loading vcr, barely used, dusty and it’s flashing 12:00!

By: Trekenstein

Trekenstein — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:31:39 +0000

#60 – you are correct – the thematic materials were used in later Star Trek episodes, though it was never used again as the “Theme”. Not sure if it is the exact cue, but it could be. As far as I know the “End Title” music was never used again in any capacity, though it contains some of the same thematic elements also used in the surviving episodes underscore. Interestingly enough that end credits music has a very nautical quality to it, which is some way suggests a feeling Trek would not revisit until TWOK.

By: Andy Patterson

Andy Patterson — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:50:57 +0000

I’d like to take issue with one of the things the article states. I believe it says the theme in the lost version of the pilot was never used again. Or at least I’ve read that somewhere. I believe that’s incorrect. If it’s the music I just found on the Youtube clip then I think it was used again in “The Lights of Zetar” and if I think about it some more might think of another instance. These are my thoughts off the top of my head without all the proper research. But there you go anyway.

By: Son of a Maui Portagee

Son of a Maui Portagee — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:39:53 +0000

#56., & #57.

I bow to your superior knowledge w/re to those other Trek series non-pilots. Well, I suppose I could still hope for a set of Roddenberry pilots including those two with his unsold stuff (THE QUESTOR TAPES, GENESIS II, etc.)? Or maybe just one BD disk w/both ToS pilots?

By: Greg2600

Greg2600 — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:10:44 +0000

Have never bought a single Star Trek TV set, are all too expensive.

By: Trekenstein

Trekenstein — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:30:58 +0000

Also, don’t forget, Paramount planned to start a Network with Phase II, and always planned to syndicate TNG themselves. They launched their own network with Voyager and ordered Enterprise to follow. So as a producer, Paramount never had to “sell” anything to anyone other than themselves. Also, both TAS and TNG came on the heels of a huge ground swell of fan support. TAS following a successful syndication run of TOS and TNG following a four film resurgence of top 5 box office films. There was little needed to do to sell it to syndicators, much less produce a pilot, especially with Paramount splitting the ad revenue and doing part of the heavy lifting.

By: Trekenstein

Trekenstein — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:18:11 +0000

#54 – I doubt that there were many pilots for Trek besides the first two. TAS was a pitch and sold sight unseen. TNG was already sold as a series and “Encounter at Farpoint” was always intended to be the first two episodes. There would have never been another one to sell it. Same with Deep Space 9, Voyager and Enterprise. Berman and those guys had carte blanche after TNG. A mere pitch meeting and they were shooting a new series. The only exception to this is that Voyager which originally cast Geneviève Bujold as Janeway and had to be reshot with Kate Mulgrew. Of course the problem with ever reassembling Caretaker with the original Bujold footage is the same one that prevents a Blu-ray release of TNG, et al. – it was finished on video. And I’m not sure those interested in TOS pilots would also be interested in Voyager.

So that’s it. With the release of the original unaired WNMHGB pilot, you will have seen every original episode ever created for Star Trek. Even Phase II was sold based on a 79 episode 3 year series, with no need for a pilot to sell the concept.

The only material which has not surfaced is the additional scenes cut from the final pilot presentation of The Cage. However, in addition to that extra Cage material there are also numerous scenes shot for TOS, trimmed from the final broadcast version, which could also be re-incorporated into those episodes. Scenes like Kirk asking Spock to play the Vulcan Lyre to soften the Dohlman in “Elaan of Troyius” .

If CBS ever does a project like this, it would most likely be Star Trek: The Missing Scenes (never before seen). However, none of these scenes were ever presented to anyone outside of an editing room.

By: Son of a Maui Portagee

Son of a Maui Portagee — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:22:44 +0000

#52.

Yep, you have definitely been around us buggas. Aloha.