I prefer to think the reason was it just was not yet his time.

Well put!

It’s funny you mention fannon and trying to come up with explainations for absurd stuff. For example, i was watching an episode from season 2, and Lt. Kyle had his typical red shirt and then inexplicably changed to a gold shirt. the answer for that is simple: a gaffe. they happen.

Star Trek fans do this all the time, it is called fannon. They come up with plausible explanations for the most absurd on-screen discrepancies, even if they are simple continuity problems. At least with this film it takes little effort to find the overt the coincidence, whereas it takes quite a bit more to justify some of them.

I suffer from no such problem. I took the film for what it was and had a perfectly enjoyable time watching it. But I certainly can see both sides of the coin and when people tell me they saw too many coincidences, I don’t tell them they need to work harder to enjoy the movie or learn to leave their negative baggage at the door. Instead I admit that parts of the film do expose holes which have no concrete explanations. One could also say rationalizing everything in the film is just as big a problem as finding fault with everything.

The bottom line for me is that the filmmakers cannot be above criticism. I certainly never suggested that they had a responsibility to answer every single question in story that a person may raise. But the vast majority of the questions raised here are pretty standard fair for ANY film. If the answers are not on screen, and there is still a reasonable question remaining about a basic story plot (as one might find in any film), then the filmmakers have failed on some level. Simply responding that all the answers are there if you are willing to work hard enough is not an acceptable answer. It takes ALL of the burden off the filmmakers and puts it all on the audience. Again, no one is saying they have to anticipate every question a person may have, but they must take some responsibility for some of it, especially the major plot holes that more than just a few fanatical die hards have raised.

And why do you keep bringing up box office? Just because a criticism has been voiced that there were too many coincidences doesn’t mean people didn’t otherwise like the film. The fact it did well does not justify problems with the story, unless you want to give the same pass to Transformers 2, 2012 and Moonlight, all of which will make much more money than Star Trek. And I think we all know, there is no comparison.

Augmented… like Khan?

THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! That’s the thing I hate most about sequels. God, I really believe Star Trek has been left in caring hands. I love these guys. I loved them before, but quotes like that just seal it with a kiss, lol

TOS did it best.

I wouldn’t mind a show set in the Star Trek universe, though.

I would love seeing a radical reboot of TOS on TV, completely separate from the movies, having its own sets and production design and Enterprise. But for various reasons, I doubt that will happen.

A TV show in the present that sets up the Eugenics Wars and ends with a bang could have a lot to say to us here and now about current politics and the misuse of science.

great idea!

if they do the post-Nemesis, maybe they could actually film the Countdown comic as first few episodes or something, and then the rest of the series is about the aftermath of the Hobus star destroying Romulus, Spock’s disappearance, and what that means for the Federation. They could even get into the Klingons annexing Romulan territory and thus starting what was hinted at in ST: TNG All Good Things.

personally, i would LOVE to see a series about…wait for it…the adventures of Captain Robau, Lt. Commander Geroge Kirk and the intrepid crew of the USS Kelvin! only this seriesd would be set in the Prime universe, and we can see the rise of George Kirk, he interactions with his sons George Jr and Jim, his wife, and his stint as second in command of the USS Kelvin and eventually the USS Enterprise under Captain Robert April!

and the best part is, they can make this supposed ‘new series’ actually accesible to a new audience. i mean, that’s what’s hurt Trek ni the past, it’s the feeling that you can’t watch the show without having seen EVERYTHING before it.