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Exclusive Video: Cho, Saldana, Quinto, Urban & Greenwood On What They Want In Star Trek Sequel November 22, 2009

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Interview,Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback

The returning stars for the Star Trek sequel expected in 2012 may not know what to expect, but they do have some ideas about what they would like to see. At the Star Trek DVD release party TrekMovie talked to John Cho, Zoe Saldna, Karl Urban, Zachary Quinto and Bruce Greenwood about their hopes for their characters and got an earful on ass kicking, chair blinking and more.


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1. ElrondL - November 22, 2009

I second Bruce Greenwood — i would much rather see Pike back on his feet! Great to hear all of their comments. We just watched ST on Bu-ray Friday night, and I had to catch myself from saying “wow” every few seconds. Just amazing, and so much fun.

2. Aaron - November 22, 2009

Triumvirate? what Does that mean?

3. Anthony Lewis - November 22, 2009

If I remember my Roman history (and I should I just finished a class on it) it is a latin word that means “of three men” and was used to describe a powerful government consiting of three main rulers.

4. The Original Animated Next Generation Deep Space Voyager Enterprise - November 22, 2009

The triumvirates I’m hoping to see are Kirk, Decker, and maybe a new captain on the Federation side and Kor, Koloth, and Kang on the Klingon side in a Federation vs. Klingon Empire story arc. That could be done in the vein of The Dark Knight if done right in my opinion.

5. Adam E - November 22, 2009

Didn’t consider seeing Pike in the sequel. I loved the character in the film and would love to see Greenwood portray the character again, in something more than a cameo.

6. nuSpock - November 22, 2009

Aaron… Triumvirate is a nonreligious way of saying Trinity….and I agree with #3 and with Bruce Greenwood; Pike needs to get outta the chair… The Enterprise is the FLAGSHIP therefore it needs A FLAG OFFICER STATIONED ON-SHIP, which would give Pike a more meaningful role and add a good allegory with Kirk worrying about Big Brother lookin over his shoulder

Sulus internal battle Cho referred to should be, in a nod to Takei, a battle with his acknowledging his blossoming homosexuality

7. RobertZ - November 22, 2009

I received my DVD yesterday and watched it last night. Have to say i liked it much better than the one time in the theater last May. Hope we don’t have to wait more than three years for the next one.

Happy Thanksgiving All and safe travels!

8. Diplomat - November 22, 2009

This is fine, so long as it’s not intrusive and disrespectful to opposing beliefs. This is still a very controversial and religiously debated subject. I think respect needs to move in both directions to keep representation of this matter fair, and from being stuffed down anybody’s throat.
Sulus internal battle Cho referred to should be, in a nod to Takei, a battle with his acknowledging his blossoming homosexuality

9. T.'. - November 22, 2009



1. Klingons (#4 above is right)
2. Khan (only at the end of ST XII, please…see Klingons, above)
3. Guardian (I’m looking at you, Harlan…)
4. Q/Trelaine
5. Doomsday Machine
6. (Balance of Terror — highly unlikely, given ST XI plotline)
7. Kelvan Empire
8. Gorn
9. Organians (see Klingons, above)

Anyway, what I guess I’m saying is the next movie should have some good old fashioned Klingon antagonists, in an extended plotline, with the Botany Bay being discovered at the very end. Or after the credits…

Otherwise, of the above, I like the doomsday machine or a modern take on the Kelvans.


10. Hat Rick - November 22, 2009

I think it would be appropriate to give Kirk as much free rein in the movie as in the original TV series. No need to cramp his style, and besides, if Pike were needed on the spot all the time, he might as well command the ship himself.

I do want to see Pike in action, however.

Also, there should be no confusing Sulu with Takei.

11. Valar1 - November 22, 2009

Man what a cast. I like that Cho wants less action, whereas Zoe wants some action scenes- the grass is always green on the other side. I wonder what Yelchin wants in the sequel, or Pegg for that matter.

12. Lt. Liz - November 22, 2009

Greenwood is hilarious! I really hope they bring back Pike, he was so wonderful in the film. And I totally agree with Urban; more Bones interaction with everyone and more Bones in general! He made McCoy my favorite character. :)

13. Khadka - November 22, 2009

As far as “triumvirate” goes… The very first Triumvirate, which consisted of Caeser, Crassus, and Pompey, predated Christ by nearly a hundred years. A Triumvirate, as Anthony mentioned, was a form of Roman government divided amongst three powerful leaders. Didn’t work out too well, either.

14. P Technobabble - November 22, 2009

Kirk, Spock and McCoy are (in most people’s opinion, I think) the heart of Star Trek. More than the Enterprise. More than the rest of the ensemble. Determination, logic and passion are the three most important ingredients to achieve any accomplishment. The characters of Kirk, Spock and McCoy have accomplished immortality by being what they are.

I’d love to see a story which contains Pike going after Kirk, to prevent him from doing something that is morally right, but viewed as wrong by law. Something like that…..

15. NCC-73515 - November 22, 2009

Uhura could indeed kick some ass.
Kirk and Uhura alone… he’s the macho again.
Kirk: “Forget for just a moment that I’m the captain, okay?”
Uhura: “Aye…”
She kicks him.
Uhura: “…Sir.”

16. Spectre_7 - November 22, 2009

We need more of Admiral Pike, continuing his role of mentor to Kirk, without intruding to much, all while walking around with some functioning legs. Let’s face it, Kirk is still a kid, with the best command in the whole fleet, still think it’s ludicrous!

17. zanzibar - November 22, 2009

It is intriguing to consider how these actors will play out through a sequel that’s 3 years away. TOS cast owned those roles — and the roles owned them — for 3 consecutive seasons. We saw them weekly. They didn’t have many, if any, extra-Trek appearances so the audience bonded with them individually and as an ensemble through a series of innovative and provocative episodes. When feature-length Trek movies bloomed, the actors were fully immersed in their characters and so was the audience. The 09 cast is going to have to re-establish in a sequel (after all that time) before they can add more depth, else become caricatures.

I second the motion for Greenwood continuing as a mentor and conscience to the fatherless Kirk He fit so well, performing with the authority and gravitas that exhibited such impact. He’s also a sweet treat for us older Trek babes, who, speaking for myself, have sons younger than Pine, Urban and the lispy Quinto.

#8 had an novel idea! I wonder if Star Trek (next) could go where no Trek has gone before? However, it’s not an authentic notion. Why play up an element not native to the Sulu character himself, but to the preceding actor’s personal life? I think that’d be cheezy.

18. CarlG - November 22, 2009

I still marvel at Karl Urban’s accent. It’s like House in space! :)

19. jas_montreal - November 22, 2009

I would really love to see Uhura command the Enterprise while the other characters are busy. I do not think Uhura has taken temporary command before…… am i right ? I think she might have taken temporary command in the animated series (forgot).

20. Robofuzz - November 22, 2009

I’d like to see Pike involved on some level. Obviously the timeline is changed. He was not on the Enterprise and did not meet the weird women with big heads from The Cage episode in the original timeline.

One question – since Spock Prime mind melded with Kirk, would Kirk possibly have gained some insight into future events?

21. dmduncan - November 22, 2009

“Greenwood would like to see Pike “on site” and not ‘back on Earth’

“Greenwood does not want Pike in ‘the chair’, noting ‘the blinking, the beeping, it’s been done.'”

LOVE Greenwood’s suggestion.

22. Sybok's Secret Brother - November 22, 2009

I would love to see the next move with Bruce Greenwood’s Captain Pike on one last mission as Captain of the Enterprise to investigate the disappearance of the SS Columbia, lost somewhere in the Talos Star Group…

23. Robofuzz - November 22, 2009

Or they could just do a big budget remake of Plato’s Stepchildren. Complete with a midget riding Kirk like a horse and Kirk and Spock’s Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum dance moves.

24. Trekkie369 - November 22, 2009

As much as I’d love a nod to Takei, there are too many episodes with Sulu lusting after pretty women on various planets and away missions for that t work.

25. HotStove - November 22, 2009

I like the idea of a conflict between Admiral Pike and Captain Kirk. Pike is sort of a father figure to Kirk, yet I can’t imagine Pike’s going to be too happy with getting command of the Federation’s flagship, seeing it through construction and then losing it on its first mission. I can almost see an Admiral Kirk/Captain Decker-type relationship shaping up – that could be a lot of fun.

The Enterprise herself needs to be a central figure. We had 79 episodes of exposition to build up Kirk’s obsession with command of her – hopefully that’ll get played up a bit. I mean, Kirk Prime didn’t get command until he was 32. New Kirk could be (COULD be) likened to a spoiled kid at Christmas that always get what he wants. Kids like that don’t appreciate things as much when they are just given to them rather than earned. Kirk has got to get a bloody nose to learn a lesson or two before he can truly achieve greatness.

And, any plotline that gives us more Karl Urban as Bones McCoy has got to be a good idea!

26. Captain Dingleberry and the Technicolor Dream Coat - November 22, 2009

#23 — LMAO!!! That would be the way to kill the franchise again.

However, I think they should put Pike in a scooter pod and just have him beep and blink…and Bruce Greenwood should have to play it.

Wouldn’t that be a stitch? LOL!!!

27. Hat Rick - November 22, 2009

14, interesting concept.

It would be interesting to see Pike and Kirk in a father-son relationship that somewhat parallels the Vader-Skywalker dynamic. (JJ loves Star Wars, after all.)

Imagine this: Romulus asserts a territorial claim over all of Vulcan’s colonies by right of genetic consanguinity. The Star Empire uses the destruction of Nero’s ship as a pretext for strengthening its own claims, despite the fact that Nero stood apart from the Romulans (in ideology, space and time). Pike “goes rogue” (to use a most horrifying cliche’, given the recent book of that name) because he sees that Starfleet is becoming as soft as he feared it would be. (Remember what he said in the movie? That Starfleet has lost that certain something?) Pike is determined to make Starfleet stronger against the Romulans in the wake of Vulcan’s destruction, and he succeeds in forging a military alliance of convenience with the Klingons to do so.

After secret consultations with the Klingons, Pike leads a Federation force to seek out the Romulans in a surprise attack, believing that the Klingons will back him up as agreed. Instead, the Klingons, double-crossing him, corner Pike’s force. Infuriated, Pike leads a suicide mission into Klingon territory, where Kirk, and the Enterprise, must save him — from himself.

28. Brett Campbell - November 22, 2009

Good insights into their characters from this new set of actors. The original cast will be proud of how the new cast is coming to understand these roles.

29. Hat Rick - November 22, 2009

And yes, I am available to write screenplays.


30. MORN SPEAKS - November 22, 2009

The sequel will involve Klingons because the general public would expect it, but I think they’ll try to throw Khan at the end for the next sequel because he would be too good to pass up.

31. richpit - November 22, 2009

I just think the next movie needs to be awesome.

Oh, and NO KHAN!

That’s all.

32. Weerd1 - November 22, 2009

I like Pike as an Admiral. It would be nice to see a Starfleet Admiral who isn’t deranged, incompetent, in league with enemy forces, or hopelessly detached from the field.

33. Pat Payne - November 22, 2009


“going after Kirk, to prevent him from doing something that is morally right, but viewed as wrong by law. Something like that…..”

Didn’t we attend this party before, back in 1984? ;)

34. VeratheGun - November 22, 2009

It’s going to be tricky, getting all these great actors their own character arc. I think it can be done, but it will take a lot of thought and a really tight screenplay. The second X-Men is a good example of an ensemble film that gave every character a great moment, and a clear arc.

35. Justice Boy - November 22, 2009

Takei is gay. Sulu is not.

I want to see Uhura pick up a phaser rifle!

36. mike - November 22, 2009

I think they need to have a khan movie, with the borg or klingons as a secondary enemy

37. tman - November 22, 2009

It’s cool to see that the cast get their characters and understand what’s interesting to explore.

38. cd - November 22, 2009

Triumvirate in terms of Star Trek TOS refers to Kirk, Spock, and McCoy: it is the relationship between these three that is the core of TOS in terms of character. Spock would be the logical viewpoint, McCoy the emotional, and Kirk the balance of the two.

39. p.e.b. - November 22, 2009

#25 i tthought the same thing. there’s conflict written all over the kirk/pike dynamic. i can almost see pike taking a decker type turn with kirk reminding him of the bar talk scene in trek xi, probably repeating the “i dare you to do better” line before pike comes to his senses and sacrifices himself to save the enterprise and her crew. …just a thought.

40. cd - November 22, 2009

I think, dramatically, it is very likely that Pike will still have his tragic accident, or some variation of it. Having Pike on board, as someone previously suggested, would preempt Kirk as captain of the Enterprise.
Maybe Pike would be seriously injured saving civilians from a class J ship, including the pregnant Carol Marcus, in the Klingon sneak attack that initiates the Federation-Klingon War.
He could survive in the chair, but be connected in cybernetically and communicate as a virtual version of himself, still appearing undamaged, preparing Starfleet cadets to go to war.

41. Kirk's Kid - November 22, 2009

#18. Everyone knows Kirk and Spock have been a couple since the beginning. Although I have to admit, Sulu never got the girl.

42. Darkwing - November 22, 2009

but, remember episodes like galileo seven, were there was a commodore or whatever on the enterprise, and Kirk had to make that sacrificial choice of the one or the many. it could be interesting seeing pike as that figure, the one making sure kirk is doing his job. and it would make sense for kirk’s character, after his rush promotion to captain of the flagship, it would make sense that he’s under scrutniy by the higher ups of the UFP and that kirk would have to prove himself as more then a one nights stand as a captain

43. Hat Rick - November 22, 2009

Yeah, one thing about the DVD commentary that struck me was the statement that the timeline was “trying to repair itself” through all the fated meetings of Kirk, Spock, Bones, and the rest of the crew. (Please, no “Final Destination” remarks.) Pike might have to experience some major personal injury in order for that to occur.

I like the idea of Pike communicating as some virtual version of himself. If so, he would become more powerful than Pike Prime could have possibly imagined.

(Kind of like Obi-Wan Kenobi after he passed, for those who don’t mind an occasional SW reference.)

So, so far we have Pike as a potential mentor, a potential commodore, a potential Vader analogue, and a potential Obi-Wan Kenobi analogue (although, true, the role of O-BWK has actually been taken by Spock Prime).

44. Chris Roberts - November 22, 2009

This Is the first I heard of buce greenwood signed for the sequel.I was hoping
Admiral Pike would be In sequel.My hope Is when Starfleet contacts Kirk
It Is Pike.

If they use Khan they have to keep his 1990’s eugenics Wars background

My hopes for sequel

Spock Is more the wise Logicil character he was In the original series.

Spock mccoy arguments

Kirk Spock Mccoy trio similar to original Series

More of Scotty than just comic relief

Introduce Yeoman Rand.Play up Kirk Rand attraction more but remember In
the original Kirl didn’t go nailing the women on the Enterprise.His romances
were mostly woman on planets

If they need a Love triangle than Bring In Chapel and have a Spock Uhuru Chapel Triangle.

If they use Klingons don’t use next Generation Klingons.Use the original series
Klingons.The deleted scenes on DVD suggest here you had original series looking Klingons wearing mass with Bumpy foreheads.

Kirk Spock Mccoy Redshirt security people on landing party while Scotty or Sulu
In command of the Enterprise.If they use Klingons It would be ideal for the landing party attacked by Klingons while warbirds attack the Enterprise.

45. JimJ - November 22, 2009

I’m all for Pike being in the sequel, the question is….in what capacity? Bruce Greenwood is far too good of an actor to sit in a chair on the sidelines. Maybe he needs a different ship so that he can team up with Kirk and the Enterprise as the next movie builds to a climactic conclusion. Exactly what that mission is, that they team up for….who knows, but he needs to be in this thing without sitting in a chair (let alone beeping-since there’s no indication he was THAT badly hurt by Nero’s “pet”).

I think it would make much more sense to bring Janice Rand into the mix…it might test Uhura’s true feelings towards Spock and Kirk, for that matter. Will she get jealous of Rand in any sort of way? I think having Rand around is just what Kirk needs, as a younger Captain. Time for him to start thinking about which is more important ON THE SHIP….the girls on the ship or the “beautiful woman he loves” named the Enterprise!

46. Neumann - November 22, 2009

13- “Why you, I aughtaa!”

I can see Pike being an Admiral (he seemed to have that rank at the end of the movie) and commanding a fleet of ships, you have to figure that with the fleet rebuilding (they lost a lot of ships last time) they need some strong leadership and inspiration at Earth. They kept talking about Pike having this Kennedy-esque air about him, so it seems like a perfect fit.

47. Neumann - November 22, 2009

47- Three Stooges reference (on that thought about the triumvirate)

48. toddk - November 23, 2009

Sulu, chekov, uhura, scotty, nurse chapel, and kevin riley are just secondary charactors, The actors who portrayed them can wish for whatever they want, but their role will not change or grow much in the movies..there is not enough time, It would be better if their growth was illustrated in a tv series , books and comic books.

Bones on the other hand , like kirk and spock will always get the spotlight, which is what made the three of them the heart and soul of the movies.

as far as pike, it’s alot like the deal shatner got in generations, read the script, agreed to it, kirk is dead , pike in wheelchair. Pike is now an admiral..not bad concidering he was the captain of the enterprise for 20 minutes..the most I think he could do at this point is do cameos, much like admiral janeway appearing in Nemesis.

49. montgomery - November 23, 2009

For the same reasons they let Geordi keep his visor throughout the seven seasons of TNG, they should keep Pike in that chair. People with disabilities exist, are everywhere, and should be granted a place in this beautiful future as well. As happy as Trek is to embrace different colours, it must continue to embrace different shapes as well. And Pike would be an amazing representative.

Forget the beeping lights. They aren’t there. Just give him the little chair he had at the end of STXI. That’ll do. Count me as one fan at least that will be disappointed to see disability cast off so easily in the next movie.

50. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - November 23, 2009

Uhura wielding a phaser sounds great! Only, I would like them to fix the new phasers… what’s the point of having moving parts that flick back and forth in the future?

51. cd - November 23, 2009

46 – And if Pike is Kennedyesque, then that is all the more reason something tragic will likely happen.
Speaking of Greenwood and Kennedy, if you haven’t seen it, watch the movie 13 Days.

52. The Guardian - November 23, 2009

The reason this movie sucks so bad is, of course, because JJ Abrams was in the director’s chair.

The reason this film series should not continue under JJ Abrams’ direction is, of course, because JJ Abrams and his ‘hacks’ Orci and Kurtzman haven’t a clue as to what “Star Trek” is (or was) all about.

This horrendous slap in Gene Roddenberry’s face (God rest his soul.) should not be praised. It should be condemned by all “Star Trek” fans, far and wide.

If this is the direction Paramount wants to take the series, then we may as well say:

Star Trek: 1966-2009


Too bad…

It really could have been fun.

53. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - November 23, 2009

Funny, I didn’t notice a soapbox lying around in this article….

54. ChristopherPike - November 23, 2009

52. At least try to be accurate… heaven help me for mentioning it by name, since I liked everything BUT the way it ended… The last scene from ENT “These are the Voyages…” with the 3 starship montage would be the last visual set in the original universe. So wouldn’t that be 1966-2005, or 1964-2005 if you want to get technical?


Star Trek: 2009 – ??

55. Jeffrey S. Nelson - November 23, 2009

I want to see Yeoman Rand…and maybe Captain Garth and Captain Tracy. See how they went bad.

56. David B - November 23, 2009

Is it just me but Karl Urban seems the most decent classiest guy of the whole new crew.

57. The Wild Man of Borneo - November 23, 2009

I despise the new Star Trek movie but I gotta say… Urban is always right on the money.

58. The Wild Man of Borneo - November 23, 2009


Yup, I dig Urban’s style and his thinking.

59. Buzz Cagney - November 23, 2009

I agree, would love to see Bruce on his feet as Pike in command of another ship (pehaps an experimental vessel of some kind?) and Decker on the Constellation along with Kirk’s Enterprise together fighting some kind of threat.

60. SChaos1701 - November 23, 2009


Shut up and stop trolling.

Other than that, why not have Pike commanding a fleet with a new universe version of the Excelsior?

With Pike, I don’t think the wheelchair is a permanent thing. I think he was recuperating from his ordeal on the Narada.

With the triumvirate thing, I think that ran its course on the show. The movies started bringing everyone in and creating an ensemble. I think the new guard should continue with that. I never like the idea of Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and the others. I think everyone should be just as important.

And for the next movie, we should meet…wait for it…Lt. Cmdr. Gary Mitchell and…what the hell…Yeoman Janice Rand.

61. Valar1 - November 23, 2009

IIRC the reason the first Pike wound up in that chair with the lights was that he ran into a fire to save some crewmen. Might that be this Pike’s fate?

62. Charla a long time STAR TREK FAN - November 23, 2009


Gene Roddenberry would have been proud as his son has even said-
you are in the minority of people who didn’t like the movie.

The ratings speak volumes about this movie, and if you think you can do better, than by all means, put one out there that could do a fraction better!

I won’t hold my breath—

63. JE2814 - November 23, 2009

Guys, the thread is writing out the plot for the next film, lol

#4 – Getting Kor, Koloth, and Kang in on the next film is brilliant. Their “legacy” in the, um, “Spock-Prime” universe has been a mainstay throughout the various series and is a classy choice IMO.

#6 – Having Pike as the Flag Officer onboard to maintain weight to his role is a great idea. It provides a nice way in to:

#16 – Pike continuing his role of mentor to Kirk, and:

#14 – A conflict between Pike and Kirk that plays with morals vs. law. (Definitely, one of the things that would work well into the characterizations is the idea of these guys being the ‘cowboys’ of the final frontier).

#16 – Going back to the idea of the the Federation flagship being captained by a kid: I don’t remember if they actually mentioned it being the flagship in the film?

Maybe if, in the sequel, The Enterprise hasn’t been designated as the flagship as-yet, and in the midst of tension between the Federation and the Klingon Empire, Kirk comes to a situation that he’s determined to resolve in a way that’s bending the law.

While questions on the ethics and ramifications of taking such a course of action are played out between Kirk and Pike, the resolution really comes out through the interactions of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy (#14 – “determination, logic, compassion” thing), which hits home Urban’s desire to see McCoy “come into that triumvirate figure”

16. Spectre_7 – November 22, 2009
We need more of Admiral Pike, continuing his role of mentor to Kirk, without intruding to much, all while walking around with some functioning legs. Let’s face it, Kirk is still a kid, with the best command in the whole fleet, still think it’s ludicrous!

14. P Technobabble – November 22, 2009
Kirk, Spock and McCoy are (in most people’s opinion, I think) the heart of Star Trek. More than the Enterprise. More than the rest of the ensemble. Determination, logic and passion are the three most important ingredients to achieve any accomplishment. The characters of Kirk, Spock and McCoy have accomplished immortality by being what they are.

64. cugel the clever - November 23, 2009

9 T.’.

Please no more Klingons! They’ve been totally milked of all dramatic value through too many past films and tv eps. Same with the Romulans and Q/Trelane. The Organians are too much like Q (i.e. omnipotent, powerful, etc) to be able to provide an original story. The Gorn are not enough of a threat to provide dramatic tension. Khan was done so perfectly in the TOS episode and STII that it would be a huge mistake to revisit the character and risk not meeting expectations. Not only that, the whole idea of the “augments” was also thoroughly explored in a 3-part story arc in ST:Enterprise. The Guardian of Forever was a great TOS tv episode but the problem with using it again is that the story would have to involve time travel and that’s been over-used in star trek even more than the Klingons!

If they’re going to revisit old material for the next film, at least let’s do something that’s still relatively fresh and has potential for new stories. On your list, the only two adversaries that are “fresh” enough and threatening enough to fit this requirement are the Kelvan empire or the Doomsday Machine.

65. Mel - November 23, 2009

I don’t mind if Pike has a guest appearance as an Admiral on earth. But I don’t want him to have a bigger role than that in the sequel. I really like him in the first movie, but he isn’t the captain anymore. Kirk with the help of his crew should make alone decisions. He wouldn’t really be very independent if Pike get a big role in the movie. I rather see more scenes with the crew from the Enterprise, especially McCoy. If Pike has a bigger role, there is less time to show other characters.

I completely agree with Karl Urban:

# Karl Urban would like to see Bones “come into that triumvirate figure that is so central to the series” between Kirk and Spock
# Urban also wants to see “more arguments of passion vs. logic with Spock”

The interaction between Kirk, Spock and McCoy make TOS so great.

66. Jason - November 23, 2009

I hope in the sequel Uhura wears her hair down like in that photo

67. KingDaniel - November 23, 2009

Uhura kicking ass would be cool.

What i want most of all, however, is the RETURN OF MR AREX.


68. Mel - November 23, 2009

@ 64

“The Gorn are not enough of a threat to provide dramatic tension.”

Why not? They just have to make them strong and cunning enough to be a real threat. We barely know anything about their real strength from TOS. Even if you consider them weak and dumb in TOS, there is no reason why they must stay so in a possible sequel. I have no problem with some changes to TOS canon.

By the way the Federation is also weaker than in TOS. They just lost Vulcan and a lot of ships. A Gorn empire which didn’t suffer such losses could be a problem.

I really would like to see the Gorn in the next movie and I hope if they include them, that they won’t be the typical bad guys. I like the idea that the reason for the conflict between the Gorn and Federation is a misunderstanding. I like to see that the Federation start a conflict/war unintentional and the Gorn are only reacting to that. And I like to see the Enterprise and its crew to end the conflict/war not with weapons at the end of the movie.

I think the Doomsday Machine would be a bad idea. We already had mechanical devices which threaten planets in Star Trek I and IV. And destroying the Doomsday Machine wasn’t so hard in TOS in the end. It was quite easy after they found out how to do it.

I completely agree with you about Klingons and Khan. I also don’t want to see them in the next movie.

69. zanzibar - November 23, 2009


I was also skeptical of the notion of the time line trying to repair itself, UNTIL it started nibbling at my memory… there was an exchange in a seminal TOS timeshifting episode, City on the Edge of Forever about how when Kirk and Spock leap through a time portal to find McCoy Kirk wonders and worries: even if they find the right time zone, how will they find the right place, the right path to find Dr. McCoy. And the writers brilliantly come up with this:

SPOCK: There is a theory. There could be some logic to the belief that time is fluid, like a river, with currents, eddies, backwash.

KIRK: And the same currents that swept McCoy to a certain time and place might sweep us there, too.

So there need be no overreaching to braid this timeline in and out of canon. I wouldn’t even mind if Spock quoted his future self on this one.

(It did irritate me that Quinto’s Spock called Kirk “Jim” in a tight spot. They make an issue of it in the featurettes, I think it was a gaffe.)

But I didn’t get your Final Destination ref, so would love a hint.

70. Daoud - November 23, 2009

Remember what K/O have said about the concept of the sequel containing scenes of what was going on DURING ST’09. I think that’s where we find our clues…

Consider a few points:

The Klingons had Nero for some time. And the Narada. Did they manage to get some information on the future? If so, they could (and just for starters):

–Know to destroy/stop Organia by any means possible (If only boborci had read “Spock Must Die!” by James Blish… then he’d know how a quasi-canon method of doing it!)

–Prevent the destruction of Praxis.

–Know not to entrust the Romulans with ANY technology. Remember Khitomer!

–Immediately cure the Augment Virus Plague (so in the modified universe… RIDGES ARE BACK WITH A CANON EXPLANATION! WOO HOO!)

–etc. The list goes on.

So, Klingon scenes can be reshot, or even used intact, with the “10 MONTHS EARLIER” etc., that JJ’s group loves to do!

Also, contemplate…

What was the rest of the fleet doing at the Laurentian System? Did they find Kelvans, Borg, a Wormhole, The Botany Bay, Doomsday…. you name it… That was going on *during* ST’09.

Also, we know that Carol (perhaps with a maiden name other than Marcus), Janet (later Wallace), and a few others are working on a project that someday leads to Genesis. Another “meanwhile”.

What else could have been happening “in medias res”?

71. P Technobabble - November 23, 2009

33. Pat
Yes, TSFS was of this kind of plot, but one thing that bugged me about that film was that once the Excelsior was sabotaged no other Starfleet vessel went in persuit of the Enterprise! I could practically hear some Starfleet Admiral telling someone, “There are no other ships in the quadrant.” So, Kirk just got to do his thing without any further intervention from Starfleet. Of course, this came in handy once Kirk encountered Kruge, so that only the Klingons would be the obstacle in Kirk’s way. Talk about coincidence!
I’m thinking of something that would involve Pike in a far more intricate and complex way. Doesn’t have to be “this” particular avenue, but something that makes Pike’s presence in the film important, and not just putting him there…
Of course, I’m just imagining what sort of role Pike should play. I agree with everyone who feels Greenwood (and Urban) should play much bigger parts in the sequel.
This has got to be one of the most difficult aspects of writing a script for Trek. There are so many characters, each of whom has a loyal-to-the-character fan-base. Kirk, Spock and McCoy are the main characters, but if you don’t give the others some kind of spotlight, all of their fans will feel slighted (not to mention what those actors would feel!).

27. Hat

The father/son dynamic could certainly work with Pine and Greenwood – they played on it a bit in the first film, so there’s no reason why it couldn’t be expanded upon.
Nice twist, having Kirk go after Pike.

On another note: one thing I hope we don’t get is Scotty battling with any malfuntions! If this Enterprise breaks down as often as the TOS Enterprise, I’m giving up on 23rd century technology.

72. zanzibar - November 23, 2009

The writers. Harlan Ellison, no less. No wonder.

73. Shatner_Fan_Prime - November 23, 2009

#52 “Star Trek: 1966-2009″

It actually died in 2005, due to poor management (which I’m guessing you approved of).

It came back to life, bigger than it has been in many years, in 2009.

74. Lando - November 23, 2009

“Zoe Saldana wants to see Uhura “kick some ass” in the sequel, doing real fight scenes, maybe “with a sword or a gun” ”

Yeah, Zoe totally understood what TOS and her character are about.

75. JimJ - November 23, 2009

#52-Glad you backed up your incessant whining with some cold hard facts. Way to go!

76. Lore - November 23, 2009

#63 Capt Pike referred to the Big E as “Our New Flagship” just before they warped away to Vulcan.

I think if they bring Khan back, he’ll kill Scotty’s little green companion. Then Simon Pegg can have the immortal line of KKKHHHAAAANNNN!!!!

77. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - November 23, 2009

Would love to see Admirial Pike in the next Movie. Bruce Greenwood is a fantastic actor. Yes we need to see more of Bones as Karl Urban did a fantastic job and I think he channeled a little of De Kelley in doing Bones. As for a Story. Lets see the Klingons. Kang,Kor,and Koloth. Have them bee the main adversarys but thwow in some big time ringers as well. If I remember from Ds9. Kurzon Dax was an ambasador to the Klingons from the Federation and maybe he can be the Buracrat that makes Kirk crazy.

78. zanzibar - November 23, 2009

73 – agreed. Uhura was/is pivotal but not central and even though Saldana’s Uhura is writ sexier than TOS’s, I don’t see her as mission critical. It’s the triumvirate.

No ass kicking Uhura. A communications officer shouldn’t need a 2×4 or a weapon to get a message across and there are plenty of other battleaxes aboard. . . cupcake.

79. sean - November 23, 2009


The problem there is that Pike in this universe hasn’t been exposed to radiation. That’s why he was in the chair originally. This Pike only had injuries sustained from whatever Nero’s crew did to him, which seemed superficial (presumably his legs weren’t broken, he was standing with assistance when rescued). I gathered he was in the chair recuperating, not that he was in it permanently. From what we’ve seen of Star Trek’s medical technology, I think it would take something far more severe to keep him there.

80. Alientraveller - November 23, 2009

I think Uhura should be able to handle herself in a situation if a Gorn or something attacked her.

Someone mentioned earlier perhaps Sulu could be gay in this reality, I wouldn’t mind, in fact casually mentioning it and then never again would be the most realistic thing.

Regarding the trio, I gotta wonder, was there ever a draft of the script where McCoy accompanied Kirk and Spock to the Narada? What if Pike was dying?

81. JimJ - November 23, 2009

#79-If I recall, when Kirk and Spock beamed over, they had no idea whether Pike was alive or not. Probably safer for all involved (especially Bones) that he didn’t transport over. Good thing since there was a phaser fight!

82. Schiefy - November 23, 2009

Until I read about Urban’s comment I hadn’t realized that the Triumvirate of TOS was what I missed in ST09. In fact, while there is (and always has been) a bit more emphasis on the Kirk/Spock relationship you cannot ignore the importance of Kirk/Spock/McCoy. ST09 missed the mark when it had Spock Prime emphasize the relationship of Kirk/Spock without noting the importance of McCoy as well. I do understand that the Triumvirate is only in its germination stage with ST09 so here is hoping we see more interaction between McCoy/Spock as the Kirk/Spock/McCoy relationship gets fleshed out.

#60–Therefore, I would disagree that the Triumvirate has run its course with TOS–ST09 and its sequels has the opportunity to (re)develop the strength of their friendship as a team. While Sulu, Chekhov, Uhura, and Scotty are by no means mere minor characters anymore they have their own relationship to one another as peers just as the Triumvirate is also about another level of peers. The fact that they can all share the same stage (literally and figuratively) speaks volumes about the one thing Trek excelled at: the characters. Without the characters and their proper placement in the ensemble so we can identify with one or more of them the stories were second-rate (or could just as easily been told in some other show or medium). ST09 did mix it up a little by having Uhura involved with Spock (something I think TOS hinted at once or twice) but the Triumvirate is still the linchpin in caring about any remake of the original series.

83. Danpaine - November 23, 2009

Good point, #79. McCoy should have gone along.

#52, you’re a tool.

Watched the film twice on Saturday, and I believe it did pay a lot of respect to what came before it, and the attention to detail was incredible. Much more enjoyable on the 2nd and 3rd viewings than when I saw it in theatres in May.

Anyway, a buddy and I agreed that Scotty was the weakest/furthest from the original character. Simon Pegg is excellent – I loved Shaun Of The Dead, but in the original series, Scotty was a pretty serious dude most of the time. In this film, he was really just there to provide comic relief, which doesn’t do the actual character justice. Just my (our) two cents.

84. Danpaine - November 23, 2009

#73, Lando.

Right on. That’s hilarious.

85. LCDR Arch - November 23, 2009

Uhura needs a LT stripe! It is very sexist that the female officers just wear a short dress with no rank. I think she needs here sleeves back to be more professional. Also it would not be appropriate for Spock and Uhura to continue relationship. She works for him now.

86. frederick von fronkensteen - November 23, 2009

I’d like to see Pike assigned back on the ship as captain for an important mission, sending Kirk and Spock off to do the heavy lifting of the action scenes. It would be a great dynamic, similar to the Decker/Kirk friction in TMP. Kirk learns more about being a captain and how to be a friend to Spock from Pike.

87. BigRedBri - November 23, 2009

Something new. I agree with Bruce Greenwood – “it’s been done”

88. Geoffers - November 23, 2009

#52… Oh please grow up… why are you hanging around the site, other than to moan? If you really dislike it that much, ship out… if you don’t wanna ship out.. then simply shut up.. Either Put up, or Shut up my friend..

89. John from Cincinnati - November 23, 2009

I agree 100% with Karl Urban. McCoy needs to take his place with Kirk and Spock to make the trifecta in the sequel, along with more arguments with Spock.

I disagree with Bruce Greenwood. Pike wasn’t left in a vegetative state at the end of Star Trek 09 like he was in the “Menagerie”. He can still talk and move his arms.

90. John from Cincinnati - November 23, 2009

I think not doing things simply because “they’ve been done before” is a cop out. This movie is called Star Trek isn’t it? Why did we go back and do the original characters then since it’s “all been done before”? If it’s “all been done before” then JJ Abrams and team should’ve just created an entirely new crew set after the Next Generation crew. Why go through all the rigormorough to send Nero back in time to the Original Series era if it’s “all been done before”? Why cast actors that resemble their predecessors if it’s “all been done before”? Why have Jame T. Kirk destiny be the Captain of the Enterprise if its “all been done before”? Why not just leave Kirk as First Officer and have Spock be the Captain if it’s “all been done before”? Why even have Scotty or McCoy part of the crew if it’s “all been done before”?

Here’s the answer: “Even though JJ wanted to reimagine the franchise, therewas a conscious decision made to use the original characters in the original series era. So there is some conscious decision that they wanted some familiarity. With familiarity comes the idea of destiny, that all these characters were destined to serve abord the Enterprise together and if you sell the audience on the idea of destiny, then you MUST show some familiar elements from TOS, the aliens, villains, stories or else the entire notion of the crew coming together like before is totally far-fetched and this whole new universe loses credibility.

91. Lore - November 23, 2009

Maybe Pike could get a jet powered chair equipped with the optional phaser cannon. Sort of a Star Trek Super Hero.

92. Chasco - November 23, 2009

“Urban wants to see “more arguments of passion vs. logic with Spock”

Unfortunately, because the writers have already changed Spock into someone who is well acquainted with ‘passion’, this can’t work in the same way it did in the Original Series.

93. ensign joe - November 23, 2009


Destiny goes out the door with Vulcan.

By branching the timeline, they have given themselves the ability to argue away any potential continuity ‘nitpicks’ that purists would throw out. In essence, they can do what they want with whatever they want and the Trek community has to go along with it because it’s ‘canon’.

Destiny is the spoonful of sugar there to help the logic (or lack thereof) go down..

94. tman - November 23, 2009

74. Lando –
Yeah, Zoe totally understood what TOS and her character are about.

Okay… but the rest of them do seem to have a good understanding of the characters.

Sulu, etc truly won’t get alot of screen time, but if you have good internal conflict (disagreement on how to respond to something) the discussion between the characters can really allow the characters personalities to come out. I think in the first film you didn’t have much of it.

Regarding Pike, if they start the film before Kirk takes over the Enterprise, it give some scope for Pike outside of “the chair.” Other than that, I think they do need to let the new team come into their own without active mentorship (old spock or Pike).

95. S. John Ross - November 23, 2009

100% with Karl Urban … let Bones be Bones this time. Irascible and curmudgeonly is fun and all, but Bones should also be providing the moral grounding – that compass Urban speaks of (which this version of “Trek” still needs before it can start living up to the name, IMO).

96. cd - November 23, 2009

52, 62 – Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I will agree that Star Trek could have been much better, and the makers of the movie did not seem to really GET Star Trek; they appear to confuse it with Star Wars (or would rather make a Star Wars movie, but George wouldn’t let them, so they had to settle for Star Trek.)
As far as the comment “if you think you can do better”; that type of argument always ring false. You don’t have to be a chef to know when the soup tastes bad.
The encouraging thing is the actors seem know what should be done with their characters, especially Urban. Maybe they can explain it to the writers.

97. cugel the clever - November 23, 2009


True, the Gorn might be a bigger threat in the new timeline because the Federation has been weakened by the loss of Vulcan. However, they were never portrayed as being exceptionally powerful – remember that they ran from the Enterprise and Kirk was about to destroy the Gorn ship before the Metrons intervened. I think that an obviously powerful and largely unknown foe like the Kelvans would be more threatening.

In any case, they have a lot of fertile ground to explore without recycling old adversaries.

98. CmdrR - November 23, 2009

“…one of those energizers, guns…” — You mean a phaser, Zoe? Oh who am I kidding? I can’t stay mad at someone so cute.

“…no blinking, no beeping…” — So, I’m assuming that Chris Pike would not be in favor of restoring the original timeline…

99. John from Cincinnati - November 23, 2009


Again, Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Sulu, Chekov, Uhura, The Enterprise, Pike, Green Orion Girls, Starfleet Academy, Kobayashi Maru, the Federation, blue red yellow uniforms, red shirts dying, all have been done before too. Just dismissing certain ideas simply because they’ve been done before is a flawed argument. A lot of things they’re doing have been done before (see above).

100. S. John Ross - November 23, 2009

#99: “A lot of things they’re doing have been done before …”

At last count, 100% :)

101. justsomeguy - November 23, 2009

Assuming the new movie doesn’t happen six seconds after XI, maybe they will have the fleet of 15 Constitution Class ships that are to explore strange new worlds yadda yadda, and Pike will be in charge of one of those, or something even newer.

Also mybe we can write in an arc for every single person who ever touched the show, that would be cool, don’t forget crewman number 6, or terminal operator 2!! If they keep trying to write 900 characters into the movie we are just gonna end up with another Phantom Menace.

102. ensign joe - November 23, 2009

#99 “Just dismissing certain ideas simply because they’ve been done before is a flawed argument.”


And maybe they will do Khan and knock it out of the park. How cool would that be?

Don’t get me wrong. I do see the promise in dipping into that well of Trek history. But as I’ve said before, if there is going to be a new band calling themselves The Beatles, endorsed by the surviving members, the obvious thing to do is write a song that references Hey Jude.. And as a listener you hear it and for 5 minutes you remember how much you liked The Beatles..

See what I’m getting at? See the difference?

103. cd - November 23, 2009

101 – wasn’t this Star Trek already another Phantom Menace?

104. justsomeguy - November 23, 2009


Naw, it was really good, but I am hopnig they don’t water it down so bad trying to make every character important at the expenses of a good story.

105. Alientraveller - November 23, 2009

#97 The Gorn never had the budget to make them a major presence on the show but in non-canon stuff including the Star Fleet Universe they are very valuable allies of the Federation, and I think they have the budget now to make them worthwhile characters. Again, that goes for the Tholians, Kzinti and anyone else who was left out of the 24th century shows for budget reasons.

106. Spock Of Ages - November 23, 2009


107. T'Pirk - November 23, 2009

I agree with Urban 100%. And with Saldana. She needs to take her place as a senior officer and not have her only purpose be romantic subplots.

108. tman - November 23, 2009


I don’t think it’s fair to characterize Uhura as ONLY a romatic subplot. I would agree though that in TOS all crew (men, women) were specialialized generalists and they didn’t in this story show that: In TOS, Uhura could grab navigation control in a heartbeat. I think that kind of depiction, either phaser in hand or a different context is important if Star Trek is to have a positive message on gender issues.

109. 1701 over Gotham City - November 23, 2009

Time for KIRK to come to the front. Pike’s story is told, and I think he needs to be left in the chair. If we involve Pike any further, it should be very background… this was the passing of the torch, so to speak, so let’s see how Kirk shines. There’s simply no reason why he should have a heavy involvement, and more characters added in takes away from the central core of the E-Crew.

110. CarlG - November 23, 2009

@52: You must be loads of fun at parties.

@74: To be fair, when they made TOS, just getting the character of Uhura on TV was a major victory. I imagine if they tried to do an Uhura-centric storyline, or, God forbid, something as un-womanly as an action scene (gasp!), the network suits would have come down on Gene Roddenberry like a ton of bricks.

On that note, it’s not the 60’s anymore. A black female character can do more than just exist, so by all means, give Uhura more to do.

111. martin - November 23, 2009

Urban is exactly right. McCoy needs to be elevated in this film – extending him as Spock’s foil and Kirk’s heart.

I also agree with Saldana with Uhura, there is room for her to be more active. I do also think they need to extinguish the Spock/Uhura flame.

Lastly, I would prefer to see Kang, Kor and/or Koloth before we see Khan. Alternatively, I wouldn’t mind seeing a darker Harry Mudd (he was a borderline dark character in Mudd’s Women, and then clearly just a comic egomaniac in I, Mudd)

112. Damren - November 23, 2009

I think we should let the new continuity advance without pulling everything in from the old. While it would be cool to see what those old stories would look like with the new cast, designs & special effects, it might be best to pay what respects we can and move forward, giving this universe a chance to flourish.

There is also the question of how soon the sequel will be set after the original. If the time line is kept fairly tight, I think keeping the sequence close would be better. It would give the characters time to develop, and allow the actors to really connect with the persona’s they are adopting.

With Vulcan destroyed, along with a number of Star Fleet ships, the Federation may be seen as weaker and vulnerable to attack. This might lead to both Klingon and Romulan incursions, either on a tactical or a political level. During all of this, the Vulcans are trying to establish their colony. And, I feel the preservation of the Vulcan people and their society would be of critical importance to the Federation. Pike could either be liaison to the Vulcans or dealing with Klingon incursions near the border.

Exploring a new Vulcan homeworld might be an interesting kick off to the next film ( a whole “strange new world”), with the Vulcans finding a world very different from the one expected by Spock Prime. Remember, with an altered continuity, you also get altered time travel events from the future – whose to say just how badly causality could be disrupted.

Ancient ruins, possibly “proto-vulcan” in nature, that were non-existent in the Prime time line are discovered. The investigation of which releases adversarial beings of pure intellect that are able to possess (red translucent eyes – homage to “RedJack”?) the human crew (but not the Vulcans). After causing some degree of havoc, they leave through space on a specific course.

Reds may appear as mist-like phantasms, taking psychic forms which manifest what victims fear, as uncontrolled minds are defenseless against them.

After recovering, the crew learns the course set will take the entities to (or through) inhabited systems. The crew won’t realize that some of them have stayed behind. It might keep it edgy if we don’t know who the bad guys really are & they could even be your crew (by-by more red shirts!).

Have the Reds be a threat to all worlds between “new Vulcan” & the unknown destination, including one that happens to contain a large population & McCoy’s Ex-wife (just because). Maybe she could even be possessed by a reasonable, but still insane, baddie (Seriously, who’s trying to kill Bones – the alien monster, or the ex-wife?).

Pike’s fleet encounters “Reds” near the border (I’m assuming no neutral zone or Organians – yet) and are partially possessed. The ships begin fighting each other. His ship is damaged, but he lives through it. Enter Klingons who detect the skirmish, but don’t know the reasoning behind it.

Reds possess Klingon ship and go on rampage. Kirk and Pike have to destroy the vessel(s), to save the nearby systems, but the Klingon’s don’t see it that way (Klingons now HATE Kirk). They take offensive action, with Pike being somehow injured – badly (now Kirk HATES Klingons).

Crew manages to capture a Red (perhaps McCoys, now sedated, Ex-wife?) and analyzes the creature. Enter a Classic Spock mind meld with the possessed to find out the Red’s plan. Uhura figures out how to tap into their sub-space communal mind only to be possessed. Causes major problems (ie. “kicks ass”). Enter Vulcan nerve pinch (and possibly a “deep meld” to free her – it could also be their first mind meld?).

We see flashes to an old Vulcan examining the ruins on the colony world. Spock Prime figures out how to make humans immune via mind meld and some details of what the creatures are – relays info to Enterprise. Enterprise gets message from Spock … who’s standing on the bridge as it comes in. Kirk & Spock look at each other and take the message on secure view.

With data from analysis of the captured Red and from Spock Prime, Scotty develops new Phaser design that “jams” the Reds (or discovers that Klingon disruptors have the same affect on the Reds) and adjusts Phasers to compensate. Also develops shield modulations that inhibit Red attacks on ships.

Stun level hits on inhabited planets and possessed ships cause Reds to disperse and coalesce into hyper-mass. Enterprise hits mass of Reds with lethal force. Most are destroyed, others disperse in all directions, in & out of Federation space. Future & ongoing problem for the Federation and other Alpha Quadrant worlds/empires?

Records from Vulcan colony world show “old Vulcan” activating an alien “archway” discovered on the planet and vanishing into it. I much prefer Spock Prime “riding into the sunset” and not being killed. Even if the new stories can’t live with him, I’m not sure we can live without him.

Kirk shown brooding over Pike’s body in deep medical stasis. Bones showing support. Pike is alive, but bringing him back could be a long process. McCoy might tie in a virtual mnemonic interface and create a Pike “avatar” that can be interfaced with?

I see lots of possibilities that don’t involve dragging the whole of the old universe into the mix. It is possible to honor the classic series without rigidly rehashing every story concept. Everyone should strive to keep an open mind.

113. Trekenstein - November 23, 2009

#99. “Just dismissing certain ideas simply because they’ve been done before is a flawed argument. A lot of things they’re doing have been done before (see above).”

John from Cincinnati, I think you are missing the point entirely.

First your argument is flawed. You could not call it Star Trek if it did not contain 99% of the items on your list you claim have been done before.

They chose TOS era because it is the best and most iconic of all of them, and TNG already imploded at the box office and Enterprise was cancelled. They sure weren’t going back to those. And Hollywood does not just come up with a brand new concept when there is a perfectly good one sitting on the shelf which has proven itself before at the box office. Otherwise they were going to have to come up with yet another spinoff which might not do as well as Nemesis.

But the point was not whether they did the basic concept of Star Trek before. The point was once they took the iconic elements that made the original series great, whether they take them on new adventures or simply re-hash the same stories they told already. Khan is NOT a core character of Star Trek. In fact until Harve Bennett dredged him up again from 1967, he was merely a guest star of the week. Harve found something more to do with him. JJ Abrams MIGHT wring a few more drops of juice out of Khan, but is there enough to fill a whole glass? For those of us who have seen it before, I’ll bet not. Certainly he can make this movie for a brand new audience who’s never seen Khan before and the fans will likely go see it. But is that really why they rebooted Star Trek? Just so they could remake all the TV episodes in a different way for the big screen?

If anything, the “cop out” is rehashing the classic stories of the original series, and not creating new classic stories that challenge the bounds of the fans imaginations.

114. Simon - November 24, 2009

Klingons & Khan, I’d love to see the teams new interpretation of them.

Boborci: since his cameo was cut, PLEASE bring back Victor Garber in some capacity. Terrific actor that can bring so many layers to any character he portrays, his Klingon interrogator was terrific.

…and more shots of the Enterprise!

115. diurnal618 - November 24, 2009

Kahn is to early for this movie, think about it. Kahn was in STII, which is what? 15-20 years after the orginal movie…. It won’t be kahn

116. ensign joe - November 24, 2009



Khan Noonien Singh, commonly shortened to Khan, is a villain in the fictional Star Trek universe. According to backstory given in the character’s first appearance, the Star Trek original series episode “Space Seed”, Khan is a genetically engineered superhuman tyrant who once controlled more than a quarter of the Earth during the Eugenics Wars of the 1990s. After being revived in 2267 by the crew of the Enterprise, Khan attempts to capture the starship, but is thwarted by James T. Kirk and exiled on Ceti Alpha V to create a new civilization with his people. The character returns in the 1982 film Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, set fifteen years after “Space Seed”, in which Khan escapes his imprisonment and sets out to seek revenge upon Kirk. The character was portrayed by Ricardo Montalbán in both the television episode and in the movie.

117. Simon - November 24, 2009

#115 – You’re right.

It won’t be “kahn”.

It will be KHAN! :-)

118. THX-1138 - November 24, 2009

I see so many requests here for re-treads of stuff that was in TOS.

For the love of Crom, can we get an original story? What was the point of re-booting in a new universe if we are going to be basically re-telling old plots? If this team is so creative then why don’t we let them be creative? I have already seen the Doomsday Machine. I have more than one copy of it at home. Same with Khan. And Arena.

Obviously with 40 years of Trek there are going to be a lot of stories that will bear similarity to each other. But to out an out retell episodes is ridonculous. If it was going to be the same universe that might have been interesting. But I thought that the film makers chose another universe to tell their own stories. So do it. Tell your own stories.

119. fansince66 - November 24, 2009

Adm. Pike in command of a Task Force of dozens of Starfleet ships,with the big E as one of a half dozen, or so, capital ships.Pike’s in frequent conference with his lead captains(& their command staffs) aboard his command ship.THERE, is the setting for interaction between Pike, Kirk, Spock, & Bones.

Pikes embodies the best ideals & virtues of the Federation. He’s “Mr. Federation Guy”.That’s his contribution to “the triumvirate”, or trio, of Kirk-Spock-Bones(which, in this altered Trekverse,should no longer be “the trio”,but “the quartet”).

Anyway, I’d like to see Pike right up there, with Kirk-Spock-Bones, whatever the story might be.

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