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	<title>Comments on: December 7th 1979 &#8211; Star Trek The Motion Picture Began 30 Years Of Star Trek Movies</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Bomb 1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Bomb 1701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;TMP,&quot; as well as the rest of the first eight &quot;Trek&quot; movies, have been playing on the HBO and Cinemax channels for the past month or so; it seems that a cable TV window for the &quot;Trek&quot; movies opens up every few years. But for &quot;TMP&quot;,and &quot;TUC&quot;, it&#039;s the theatrical version. The &quot;Director&#039;s Cut&quot; DVD edition of &quot;TMP&quot; is now long out of print, and has never been televised. When &quot;TUC&quot; had its first HBO run, in January 1993, it was the longer video version; the current cable runs are of the theatrical version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;TMP,&#8221; as well as the rest of the first eight &#8220;Trek&#8221; movies, have been playing on the HBO and Cinemax channels for the past month or so; it seems that a cable TV window for the &#8220;Trek&#8221; movies opens up every few years. But for &#8220;TMP&#8221;,and &#8220;TUC&#8221;, it&#8217;s the theatrical version. The &#8220;Director&#8217;s Cut&#8221; DVD edition of &#8220;TMP&#8221; is now long out of print, and has never been televised. When &#8220;TUC&#8221; had its first HBO run, in January 1993, it was the longer video version; the current cable runs are of the theatrical version.</p>
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		<title>By: helenilton.star trek</title>
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		<dc:creator>helenilton.star trek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>helenilton.star trek entrpries - ncc-1701-A U.S.S
star trek i video - wiliam shtner - 1966-1969-1958. 
spock tr-590-580
A.F.E.R.J. RIO DE JANERIO - R.J 
RESEDE - R.J.</description>
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star trek i video &#8211; wiliam shtner &#8211; 1966-1969-1958.<br />
spock tr-590-580<br />
A.F.E.R.J. RIO DE JANERIO &#8211; R.J<br />
RESEDE &#8211; R.J.</p>
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		<title>By: Cafe 5</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cafe 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It ran for over a year here in Portland and I think I went at least six times to see it in the theater. Spotlights ran out front and they even had a ribbon cutting with local officials on opening night. A very different time. The film holds up well and is far more engaging than the seven frame cuts and lense flares of today. The music does its job and packs the intended emotional punch. A very remakrable motion picture. Jerry Goldsmith&#039;s score was and still is extraordinary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ran for over a year here in Portland and I think I went at least six times to see it in the theater. Spotlights ran out front and they even had a ribbon cutting with local officials on opening night. A very different time. The film holds up well and is far more engaging than the seven frame cuts and lense flares of today. The music does its job and packs the intended emotional punch. A very remakrable motion picture. Jerry Goldsmith&#8217;s score was and still is extraordinary.</p>
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		<title>By: The Guardian</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Guardian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article. I remember it well. I was in my senior year of high school. My younger brother and a couple of freinds of ours went to our local theatre to see the debut of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. We were blown away! Still one of my all time favorites and far better than anything JJ Abrams will ever come up with!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article. I remember it well. I was in my senior year of high school. My younger brother and a couple of freinds of ours went to our local theatre to see the debut of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. We were blown away! Still one of my all time favorites and far better than anything JJ Abrams will ever come up with!</p>
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		<title>By: director's cut was heavily edited</title>
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		<dc:creator>director's cut was heavily edited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a time when I swore I&#039;d never watch TMP again, but now I love it more the more I see it.  Altman up there says the Director&#039;s cut was not edited, but that is not true.  They went back to all the original takes and re-cut the move from scratch.  Sometimes there are cutaway shots in one scene that were originally from another.  You can&#039;t do a side by side comparison because the two versions don&#039;t line up at all.  There is (or used to be) a downloadable commentary by Dochterman and others on Star Trek.com that goes into detail about that process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a time when I swore I&#8217;d never watch TMP again, but now I love it more the more I see it.  Altman up there says the Director&#8217;s cut was not edited, but that is not true.  They went back to all the original takes and re-cut the move from scratch.  Sometimes there are cutaway shots in one scene that were originally from another.  You can&#8217;t do a side by side comparison because the two versions don&#8217;t line up at all.  There is (or used to be) a downloadable commentary by Dochterman and others on Star Trek.com that goes into detail about that process.</p>
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		<title>By: oztrek</title>
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		<dc:creator>oztrek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is too slow paced by today&#039;s standards - but back then I loved it.

I still watch but to fill in those long drawn out Galazy Quest moments I watch it with Mike Okuda&#039;s text commentary which is pretty awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is too slow paced by today&#8217;s standards &#8211; but back then I loved it.</p>
<p>I still watch but to fill in those long drawn out Galazy Quest moments I watch it with Mike Okuda&#8217;s text commentary which is pretty awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: BrF</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice review. I actually find, watching the movie now, that it&#039;s a great and convincing character study of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy up to about the 2/3rds mark. (1/2?) It gives each of them, especially Kirk and Spock, something real and human to chew over and deal with. 

And there&#039;s a real sense of scale and pacing and real worldness to the opening that hasn&#039;t been matched in any Star Trek film yet. 

But after a certain point the pace goes from slow to crawl; it loses all forward momentum. And then at the end, it&#039;s Decker who resolves the plot by coming up with the idea to join with V&#039;ger. It would have gone a long way to making it a better movie if it was Kirk who took some decisive, insightful step at the end; it would have been a better arc for the character, and justified some of his naked ambition in getting the Enterprise back at the beginning of the movie, and left us really feeling like, yes, this is where this guy needs to be, at the bridge of the Enterprise. That payoff would have justified some of what went before. Giving Decker that moment sucked the last of the air out a movie that was already leaking badly.

But back to the beginning of the movie -- I&#039;ll watch Scotty fly Kirk around the Enterprise anytime. The ship has never seemed so believable. One of the great sci-fi sequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice review. I actually find, watching the movie now, that it&#8217;s a great and convincing character study of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy up to about the 2/3rds mark. (1/2?) It gives each of them, especially Kirk and Spock, something real and human to chew over and deal with. </p>
<p>And there&#8217;s a real sense of scale and pacing and real worldness to the opening that hasn&#8217;t been matched in any Star Trek film yet. </p>
<p>But after a certain point the pace goes from slow to crawl; it loses all forward momentum. And then at the end, it&#8217;s Decker who resolves the plot by coming up with the idea to join with V&#8217;ger. It would have gone a long way to making it a better movie if it was Kirk who took some decisive, insightful step at the end; it would have been a better arc for the character, and justified some of his naked ambition in getting the Enterprise back at the beginning of the movie, and left us really feeling like, yes, this is where this guy needs to be, at the bridge of the Enterprise. That payoff would have justified some of what went before. Giving Decker that moment sucked the last of the air out a movie that was already leaking badly.</p>
<p>But back to the beginning of the movie &#8212; I&#8217;ll watch Scotty fly Kirk around the Enterprise anytime. The ship has never seemed so believable. One of the great sci-fi sequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Links for December 2nd through December 9th &#8211; eclecticism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links for December 2nd through December 9th &#8211; eclecticism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Happy 30th Anniversary to Star Trek: The Motion Picture!: &quot;30 years ago today, on December 7th 1979 Star Trek leapt from the small to the big screen with Star Trek: The Motion Picture. All week long TrekMovie will be celebrating the anniversary, beginning today with a tribute by Free Enterprise producer Mark Altman, that looks at the film and its place in history.&quot; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Happy 30th Anniversary to Star Trek: The Motion Picture!: &quot;30 years ago today, on December 7th 1979 Star Trek leapt from the small to the big screen with Star Trek: The Motion Picture. All week long TrekMovie will be celebrating the anniversary, beginning today with a tribute by Free Enterprise producer Mark Altman, that looks at the film and its place in history.&quot; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Cagney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz Cagney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#232 thats brilliant. Thanks for sharing it. And wow, wasn&#039;t Persis gorgeous- hair or no hair!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#232 thats brilliant. Thanks for sharing it. And wow, wasn&#8217;t Persis gorgeous- hair or no hair!</p>
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		<title>By: 4 8 15 16 23 42</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@230 -- &quot;in TMP it’s human nature that makes possible the transcendence of a nominally much more advanced intelligence.&quot;

Um, don&#039;t you mean (a vast database of computer knowledge acquired over hundreds of years of exploration) + (human nature) = (much more advanced intelligence)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@230 &#8212; &#8220;in TMP it’s human nature that makes possible the transcendence of a nominally much more advanced intelligence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, don&#8217;t you mean (a vast database of computer knowledge acquired over hundreds of years of exploration) + (human nature) = (much more advanced intelligence)?</p>
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