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	<title>Comments on: JJ Abrams Talks Personal Connection To Trek &amp; Fans + ST09 Editors Talk Kirk</title>
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		<title>By: SChaos1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>SChaos1701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>133

If you post something stupid, it&#039;s going to get reacted to. Especially with trolling such as yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>133</p>
<p>If you post something stupid, it&#8217;s going to get reacted to. Especially with trolling such as yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Holger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>129 SChaos1702: &quot;Please, just go away.&quot;

No, I won&#039;t. But here&#039;s something I&#039;m gonna do: I&#039;m not reading any of your posts anymore. I suggest you do likewise if you dislike my posts as much as I dislike yours. Have a nice life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>129 SChaos1702: &#8220;Please, just go away.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, I won&#8217;t. But here&#8217;s something I&#8217;m gonna do: I&#8217;m not reading any of your posts anymore. I suggest you do likewise if you dislike my posts as much as I dislike yours. Have a nice life!</p>
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		<title>By: somethoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>somethoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#131

I just see it as Kirk died saving the Enterprise B and 100s of people from a space anomaly.

Kirk was born in space in this new reality and he died in space in the prime reality.  

If only they hadn&#039;t done Yesterday&#039;s Enterprise and saved that idea for the Generations movie, that would have rocked.  Pity they had some silly script about a energy ribbon and a stupid scientist trying to live forever behind hooked to the nexus drug. 

&quot;You can go anywhere, anytime&quot;

&quot;I want to go right at the moment the nexus comes so I can save the day just barely, instead of to the point in time when I first met Soran in 10 forward him lecturing me about time and burning&quot; 

&quot;Riker/Data/Worf failing to modulate shield frequency and fire everything they got into a 75 year bird of prey&quot; which was retired from service, lol

Can you say PLOT HOLE?

Guinan inside the Nexus but not really her, Guinan knowing Kirk is in the Ribbon although never knowing the Enterprise B had come to rescue them and Kirk/Picard and Soran have a punch out at the mountain, yikes no wonder it sucked.

I would have rather seen a movie version of Yesterdays Enterprise or something along the lines of All Good Things where Q sends the Enterprise D folks into the TOS/TMP era.

We do know, glorified versions of episodes do work, ie. TWOK based on space seed aftermath, First Contact based on best of both worlds.

If only they did a movie version of Yesterdays Enterprise, gawd what a missed opportunity.  Instead we got a few silly movies like a race that doesn&#039;t like technology that looks 99% human living in some low budget set village and some flat looking space ships, then we got a silly director like Stuart Bird who did not know how to make a great sci movie with a decent script.  I don&#039;t know how you can ruin such a great TV show in TNG into what happened in those 4 movies, I guess batting .250 isn&#039;t bad with First Contact being good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#131</p>
<p>I just see it as Kirk died saving the Enterprise B and 100s of people from a space anomaly.</p>
<p>Kirk was born in space in this new reality and he died in space in the prime reality.  </p>
<p>If only they hadn&#8217;t done Yesterday&#8217;s Enterprise and saved that idea for the Generations movie, that would have rocked.  Pity they had some silly script about a energy ribbon and a stupid scientist trying to live forever behind hooked to the nexus drug. </p>
<p>&#8220;You can go anywhere, anytime&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to go right at the moment the nexus comes so I can save the day just barely, instead of to the point in time when I first met Soran in 10 forward him lecturing me about time and burning&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Riker/Data/Worf failing to modulate shield frequency and fire everything they got into a 75 year bird of prey&#8221; which was retired from service, lol</p>
<p>Can you say PLOT HOLE?</p>
<p>Guinan inside the Nexus but not really her, Guinan knowing Kirk is in the Ribbon although never knowing the Enterprise B had come to rescue them and Kirk/Picard and Soran have a punch out at the mountain, yikes no wonder it sucked.</p>
<p>I would have rather seen a movie version of Yesterdays Enterprise or something along the lines of All Good Things where Q sends the Enterprise D folks into the TOS/TMP era.</p>
<p>We do know, glorified versions of episodes do work, ie. TWOK based on space seed aftermath, First Contact based on best of both worlds.</p>
<p>If only they did a movie version of Yesterdays Enterprise, gawd what a missed opportunity.  Instead we got a few silly movies like a race that doesn&#8217;t like technology that looks 99% human living in some low budget set village and some flat looking space ships, then we got a silly director like Stuart Bird who did not know how to make a great sci movie with a decent script.  I don&#8217;t know how you can ruin such a great TV show in TNG into what happened in those 4 movies, I guess batting .250 isn&#8217;t bad with First Contact being good.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The movie &quot;Star Trek Generations&quot; dishonored Kirk by killing him off like any other Red Shirt.  To paraphrase Octavian in Cleopatra &quot;The great Captain Kirk getting is dead from falling off a bridge into a ditch.  Kirk is dead? You say that as if it were a everyday occurrence. The soup is hot, the soup is cold. Kirk is alive, Kirk is dead.  The Captain did not die well.  Not befitting that last of so many noble Captains.&quot;

Thank you J.J. Abram for bringing honor back to James Kirk with his birth scene.  This did much to ease the shameful ending and dishonor that the &quot;Generations&quot; gang did to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The movie &#8220;Star Trek Generations&#8221; dishonored Kirk by killing him off like any other Red Shirt.  To paraphrase Octavian in Cleopatra &#8220;The great Captain Kirk getting is dead from falling off a bridge into a ditch.  Kirk is dead? You say that as if it were a everyday occurrence. The soup is hot, the soup is cold. Kirk is alive, Kirk is dead.  The Captain did not die well.  Not befitting that last of so many noble Captains.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you J.J. Abram for bringing honor back to James Kirk with his birth scene.  This did much to ease the shameful ending and dishonor that the &#8220;Generations&#8221; gang did to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fawkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The death of Kirk was a monumental screwup. Not just in trek movies but for any movie ever made. 

On the other end of the scale the birth of Kirk was one of the grandest moments in trek and movie history. 

The introduction of a major character into the world, er universe, could not have been done in a more honoring and emotionally powerful way.

Even if the rest of the film were not made after that opening sequence the fans of Star Trek are forever indebted to JJ Abrams and his team for honoring the character of James T Kirk is the opening sequence of Star Trek.

I wonder how many heads that moment has gone right over. Seems many  of the new fans get it more than some of the old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The death of Kirk was a monumental screwup. Not just in trek movies but for any movie ever made. </p>
<p>On the other end of the scale the birth of Kirk was one of the grandest moments in trek and movie history. </p>
<p>The introduction of a major character into the world, er universe, could not have been done in a more honoring and emotionally powerful way.</p>
<p>Even if the rest of the film were not made after that opening sequence the fans of Star Trek are forever indebted to JJ Abrams and his team for honoring the character of James T Kirk is the opening sequence of Star Trek.</p>
<p>I wonder how many heads that moment has gone right over. Seems many  of the new fans get it more than some of the old.</p>
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		<title>By: SChaos1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>SChaos1701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah....the troll speaks....again. Please, just go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;.the troll speaks&#8230;.again. Please, just go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Holger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone calculated yet the average number of posts following a post remotely critical of JJ or his, well, recent production before the inevitable basement-dwelling-nerd garbage is brought up by someone?

121: It&#039;s Anthony&#039;s prerogative to tell people to stay off this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone calculated yet the average number of posts following a post remotely critical of JJ or his, well, recent production before the inevitable basement-dwelling-nerd garbage is brought up by someone?</p>
<p>121: It&#8217;s Anthony&#8217;s prerogative to tell people to stay off this site.</p>
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		<title>By: somethoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>somethoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#120

So you will watch the next movie if it is called 2259: Shadows of the Empire.
See you there!</description>
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<p>So you will watch the next movie if it is called 2259: Shadows of the Empire.<br />
See you there!</p>
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		<title>By: somethoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>somethoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*NX-01</description>
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		<title>By: somethoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>somethoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss the Galaxy Class Starships that was out to explore everything from each other to strange new worlds and sci fi ideas.

Seems each variation of the show, the ships and ideas got smaller and smaller.  Enterprise D, DS9/Defiant, Voyager, Enterprise E, NX-0X.  At least the new movie is going in the right direction with epic sized ships and back to exploring character/drama and weird sci fi.

I bet if the fan backlash was so great for ST09, the sequel they would have used the Guardian to fix everything :) and then just use the new crew to create new stories before TMP storyline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss the Galaxy Class Starships that was out to explore everything from each other to strange new worlds and sci fi ideas.</p>
<p>Seems each variation of the show, the ships and ideas got smaller and smaller.  Enterprise D, DS9/Defiant, Voyager, Enterprise E, NX-0X.  At least the new movie is going in the right direction with epic sized ships and back to exploring character/drama and weird sci fi.</p>
<p>I bet if the fan backlash was so great for ST09, the sequel they would have used the Guardian to fix everything :) and then just use the new crew to create new stories before TMP storyline.</p>
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