Your last post won’t get you called out as a hater just because you didn’t like Engineering. You laid out your concerns. Added thoughtful ideas and a rationale. It’s a great example of social discourse. That’s what makes it fun to come to this site.

It’s the attacks and hatred/dislike for any new approaches to Trek simply because they didn’t fit into a very narrow idea of what TOS “should” be. The Talifans and the “canonistas” who are belligerent and rigid make visits here distasteful. And unfortunately they given the rest of Trek fans a bad reputation and make us fodder for the likes of The Onion.

I’d like to think all ideas and opinions are welcome here…as long as they’re delivered with respect and thoughtfulness. Spirited debate on this site should make the 30+ months move along much more quickly.

I finally got it to work on our Mac desktop under Safari, no problems.

As for the 3d thing, I haven’t tried it and don’t think I will. I have the Starship Simulator on the Blu Ray anyway.

I’ve no problem with them shooting in one, but I wish it looked more like a starships engineering bay, and rather less like what it was. And I think most other people feel this way too.

I’ve seen the GI Joe one too, it’s a cute trick but rather pointless.

As for the brewery sets; they looks like…. a brewery.

The lower decks sucked in this movie, they did no look like parts of a starship, they looked like 20th century industrial facilities.

Those of you who argue that they can look like anything they want cause they’re fictional would be right if Trek was new, but it’s not it’s a 44 year old, well established franchise with established dogma in relation to things like warp engines, Ship construction, etc.

These are elements of our mythology that this movie arrogantly ignored or changed & that is unforgivable.

It’s like removing Batman’s cape & not explaining why.

JJ seems to be unable to think on the visionary scale of Rodenberry & that’s exactly why he was the wrong person to do this movie.

I mean does he actually think that rooms will still look like this in 200 years?

Go visit a 200 year old building, is it the same as one made today?

Uhura’s bra is no different than one off the shelf today; does JJ think underwear has been the same for centuries? Or that it won’t change in the next 200 years?

This movie’s story was OK, the casting was pretty good, the alien make up design was great (excluding the deleted Gorn, WTF?).

But it suffered from a tremendous lack of imagination & simply wasn’t good enough to justify this many changes.

The view screen is just a big window?!

Come on, man!!

Think ahead, not current.

I hope there’s some significant changes in art direction for the sequel, at least in those engine rooms, please!

& make the dialogue match the CG, if Scotty ejects the warp core, show the core ejecting, not the antimatter pods, they are two different things.