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		<title>By: the Quickening</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Quickening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#100

@98… I disagree that exploration wouldn’t work. Avatar has shown that audiences are definately open to movies that creatively explore new worlds. I also think that, with the times we live in, people are looking to movies as an escape from reality, and a dash of optimism and the excitement of exploration would be well received....

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In my opinion, the focus of Avatar is about:

• exploitation of culture and people

• exploitation of environment and finding balance

• CGI and 3D technology


Avatar has nothing to do with exploration.  It is also very simplistic and silly in my view, in that it stacks the deck in favor of the view it&#039;s in favor of.


TREKs oversimplified and silly &quot;optimism&quot;  is out of step with the times.  I think it&#039;s funny you would use Avatar as your example because it makes my point.  Avatar&#039;s only saving grace is it&#039;s the humans that are exploiting, which is something TREK would never do (because we are such an evolved people... how nauseating).  I find what and who is exploiting in Avatar more realistic than what TREK would have done with this story.  There will come a time when TREKs optimism will be the flavor of the day, but this is not that day.  A harder and different TREK needs to be made and following the TOS/TNG model and not DS9, is in my view, a mistake.</description>
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<p>@98… I disagree that exploration wouldn’t work. Avatar has shown that audiences are definately open to movies that creatively explore new worlds. I also think that, with the times we live in, people are looking to movies as an escape from reality, and a dash of optimism and the excitement of exploration would be well received&#8230;.</p>
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<p>In my opinion, the focus of Avatar is about:</p>
<p>• exploitation of culture and people</p>
<p>• exploitation of environment and finding balance</p>
<p>• CGI and 3D technology</p>
<p>Avatar has nothing to do with exploration.  It is also very simplistic and silly in my view, in that it stacks the deck in favor of the view it&#8217;s in favor of.</p>
<p>TREKs oversimplified and silly &#8220;optimism&#8221;  is out of step with the times.  I think it&#8217;s funny you would use Avatar as your example because it makes my point.  Avatar&#8217;s only saving grace is it&#8217;s the humans that are exploiting, which is something TREK would never do (because we are such an evolved people&#8230; how nauseating).  I find what and who is exploiting in Avatar more realistic than what TREK would have done with this story.  There will come a time when TREKs optimism will be the flavor of the day, but this is not that day.  A harder and different TREK needs to be made and following the TOS/TNG model and not DS9, is in my view, a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it would be interesting to see Young Soran in the next film. he could be a good guy since he didn&#039;t loose his family to the Borg yet, and turn into a bad guy during the movie.
it would be poetic justice of sorts if Kirk kills him, since in the original timeline Soran killed Kirk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it would be interesting to see Young Soran in the next film. he could be a good guy since he didn&#8217;t loose his family to the Borg yet, and turn into a bad guy during the movie.<br />
it would be poetic justice of sorts if Kirk kills him, since in the original timeline Soran killed Kirk</p>
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		<title>By: Z Remorca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z Remorca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 10:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@72: wooooooooow... if people would be open to something like that, i&#039;d give it my go-signal! :)) 

sample line:

@Kirk: &quot;My name is Captain James T. Kirk... and men, i want my Klingon scalps.&quot; LOL XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@72: wooooooooow&#8230; if people would be open to something like that, i&#8217;d give it my go-signal! :)) </p>
<p>sample line:</p>
<p>@Kirk: &#8220;My name is Captain James T. Kirk&#8230; and men, i want my Klingon scalps.&#8221; LOL XD</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Roykirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Roykirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#100: &quot;Star Trek is more than Khan and the Borg.&quot;

Yup.  On one hand, ST09 and its sequels give Abrams/Orci/Kurtzman/Paramount the opportunity to create all-new villains and situations.

On the other hand, Nestor Carbonell would make a seriously badass Khan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#100: &#8220;Star Trek is more than Khan and the Borg.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup.  On one hand, ST09 and its sequels give Abrams/Orci/Kurtzman/Paramount the opportunity to create all-new villains and situations.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Nestor Carbonell would make a seriously badass Khan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dmduncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmduncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Treksters!  Happy New Year&#039;s EVE!

Saw Shatner on Jimmy Kimmel the other night.  The man is practically begging to be in Star Trek again.

Star Trek looks AMAZING in 1080P.  GORGEOUS.

Not a better piece of movie music written in &#039;09 than Giacchino&#039;s score for ST.

And Stephen Lang was the best part of Avatar as the Kick ass bad guy, Colonel Quaritch.  The man astounds.

Can&#039;t wait for the ST sequel!  I think it&#039;s going to be an interesting year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Treksters!  Happy New Year&#8217;s EVE!</p>
<p>Saw Shatner on Jimmy Kimmel the other night.  The man is practically begging to be in Star Trek again.</p>
<p>Star Trek looks AMAZING in 1080P.  GORGEOUS.</p>
<p>Not a better piece of movie music written in &#8216;09 than Giacchino&#8217;s score for ST.</p>
<p>And Stephen Lang was the best part of Avatar as the Kick ass bad guy, Colonel Quaritch.  The man astounds.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for the ST sequel!  I think it&#8217;s going to be an interesting year.</p>
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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100 

I want them to stay away from redoing the classics

Was this alternate universe created to allow them to not be restricted by canon or to just be lazy and redo what came before?

I hope its the former.

I still have gripes with the changes but I accept the film because its an alternate universe which exists parallel to the other shows and  does not erase it.

Try something new, I feel more Trek fans will be angry if Khan is re done.

Star Trek is more than Khan and the Borg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100 </p>
<p>I want them to stay away from redoing the classics</p>
<p>Was this alternate universe created to allow them to not be restricted by canon or to just be lazy and redo what came before?</p>
<p>I hope its the former.</p>
<p>I still have gripes with the changes but I accept the film because its an alternate universe which exists parallel to the other shows and  does not erase it.</p>
<p>Try something new, I feel more Trek fans will be angry if Khan is re done.</p>
<p>Star Trek is more than Khan and the Borg.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob I think you guys will do a great job, I will be happy if there are some Klingon&#039;s in the next movie and maybe Nurse Chapel!    Exploring new world to me is viable because of Avatar, depending on what kinda new world Mr. Orci and crew want to make.     I hope the Squeal outdoes this one.   Can&#039;t wait to see further Adventures in this new Universe!  Also I will probably go see the Squeal 7-10 times like I did for this film when it comes out so please don&#039;t Relise it in December of 2010!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob I think you guys will do a great job, I will be happy if there are some Klingon&#8217;s in the next movie and maybe Nurse Chapel!    Exploring new world to me is viable because of Avatar, depending on what kinda new world Mr. Orci and crew want to make.     I hope the Squeal outdoes this one.   Can&#8217;t wait to see further Adventures in this new Universe!  Also I will probably go see the Squeal 7-10 times like I did for this film when it comes out so please don&#8217;t Relise it in December of 2010!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bobberson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Bobberson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 03:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@98... I disagree that exploration wouldn&#039;t work.  Avatar has shown that audiences are definately open to movies that creatively explore new worlds.  I also think that, with the times we live in, people are looking to movies as an escape from reality, and a dash of optimism and the excitement of exploration would be well received.

However, a remake of &quot;Space Seed&quot; or something close to it could really explore some interesting contemporary issues (genetic engineering, choosing the sex of babies, etc. etc.)... I&#039;ve always felt Trek, like all science fiction, is best when it&#039;s doing that.

Finally, should they decide to go &quot;the bad guy&quot; route and bring Kahn, I suggest casting Dwayne &quot;The Rock&quot; Johnson... I think he has the looks and the swagger to pull it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@98&#8230; I disagree that exploration wouldn&#8217;t work.  Avatar has shown that audiences are definately open to movies that creatively explore new worlds.  I also think that, with the times we live in, people are looking to movies as an escape from reality, and a dash of optimism and the excitement of exploration would be well received.</p>
<p>However, a remake of &#8220;Space Seed&#8221; or something close to it could really explore some interesting contemporary issues (genetic engineering, choosing the sex of babies, etc. etc.)&#8230; I&#8217;ve always felt Trek, like all science fiction, is best when it&#8217;s doing that.</p>
<p>Finally, should they decide to go &#8220;the bad guy&#8221; route and bring Kahn, I suggest casting Dwayne &#8220;The Rock&#8221; Johnson&#8230; I think he has the looks and the swagger to pull it off.</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Trek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Trek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 03:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, we find ourselves once again at the beginning...a similar place from which we first visited this website;  To once again enjoy the process.</description>
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		<title>By: the Quickening</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Quickening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just don&#039;t see an exploration plot or subtext working in this day and age, especially in a limited story format like a movie, unless it&#039;s a two parter or trilogy.  The story would then have more time and detail to develop itself and not come off as simplistic or holier-than-thou as it did repetitively in TOS and TNG.  One shortcoming among many of Abram&#039;s TREK movie was how old school it seemed to me.  

TOS came out in a time when the concept of a new frontier, a new world order, yes, even semi-expansionism existed, carried forth by our superior and enlightened views.   It fit right in with the then (and now to some degree) U.S. view to compete with communism and now terrorism.  That simply won&#039;t work anymore.  Don&#039;t delude yourself into believing that wasn&#039;t an element of TREK in the late 60s because it clearly was. Yes, it was humanized a bit, but it was there and can be seen even in TNG.  DS9 remains my favorite TREK because it got away--in part--from that and for that I am grateful.

TREK must grow and adapt and reformat itself if it&#039;s going to gain a wider audience.  Exploring strange new worlds is not in and of itself going to cut it in my view.  TREK has to find a new voice and direction.  Going back to TOS was a plus, but also a minus.  I still would have rather seen a DS9 movie.  It&#039;s themes of spiritualism, war, good and evil, quasi-mysticism are simply more contemporary than TOS or TNG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just don&#8217;t see an exploration plot or subtext working in this day and age, especially in a limited story format like a movie, unless it&#8217;s a two parter or trilogy.  The story would then have more time and detail to develop itself and not come off as simplistic or holier-than-thou as it did repetitively in TOS and TNG.  One shortcoming among many of Abram&#8217;s TREK movie was how old school it seemed to me.  </p>
<p>TOS came out in a time when the concept of a new frontier, a new world order, yes, even semi-expansionism existed, carried forth by our superior and enlightened views.   It fit right in with the then (and now to some degree) U.S. view to compete with communism and now terrorism.  That simply won&#8217;t work anymore.  Don&#8217;t delude yourself into believing that wasn&#8217;t an element of TREK in the late 60s because it clearly was. Yes, it was humanized a bit, but it was there and can be seen even in TNG.  DS9 remains my favorite TREK because it got away&#8211;in part&#8211;from that and for that I am grateful.</p>
<p>TREK must grow and adapt and reformat itself if it&#8217;s going to gain a wider audience.  Exploring strange new worlds is not in and of itself going to cut it in my view.  TREK has to find a new voice and direction.  Going back to TOS was a plus, but also a minus.  I still would have rather seen a DS9 movie.  It&#8217;s themes of spiritualism, war, good and evil, quasi-mysticism are simply more contemporary than TOS or TNG.</p>
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