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POLL: Who is your favorite Star Trek President? February 15, 2010

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Today is Presidents Day in the USA, a day to celebrate the nation’s past leaders. The world of Star Trek has also given us some ‘Presidents’. Today we celebrate those fictional future presidents, and ask you to pick your favorite.    

 

Who is your favorite fictional Trek president?

 

(Excaliban) President Lincoln
(TOS: "The Savage Curtain")

Star Trek’s original series introduced our first ‘president.’ While the original Kirk and crew are exploring signs of life from an apparently lifeless planet, they are suddenly presented with an image of what appears to be President Abraham Lincoln floating in space, who then beams on board. We later learn this Lincoln was an Excaliban, a race that decided to test the crew’s notions of good and evil, with Lincoln on the side of ‘good’.

Notable dialog: (when meeting Uhura) "What a charming negress."

President Hiram Roth
(Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home)

The fourth Star Trek feature film wrapped up the "Genesis Trilogy" and introduced the President of the Federation who was doing his best to deal with the crisis of the whale probe. But it took Kirk and crew’s traveling back in time to work that one out and so when they came back, the president was all forgiveness over that whole stealing the Enterprise thing from Star Trek III (much to the chagrin of the Klingons). Sure he demoted Kirk from Admiral back to Captain, but then he gave him a brand new Enterprise. Although in the film he was never given a name, he was later dubbed ‘Hiram Roth’ in the novels.

Notable dialog: "Captain Kirk, you and your crew have saved this planet from its own short-sightedness and we are forever in your debt"

President Ra-ghoratreii
(Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country)

Only two movies later and once again we meet another President of the Federation, this time it is a new species, Efrosians. The President in Star Trek VI has to deal with the delicate diplomacy with the Klingons (again with the Klingons) following the explosion of Praxis and the arrest of Capt. Kirk and Dr. McCoy. He rejected a plan to invade Klingon space to rescue Kirk, but ironically it was Kirk and crew who later saved him from being assassinated at the Khitomer Conference. Again his character had no name in the film, but he was later named Ra-ghoratreii by A.C. Crispin in the novel "Sarek." 

Notable dialog: "This president is not above the law"

Jaresh-Inyo
(DS9 "Homefront" & "Paradise Lost")

The next time Star Trek presented us with a President was in the 24th century on Deep Space Nine. The Dominion War was heating up and people were seeing shape-shifters everywhere. The Grazerite President of the Federation Jaresh-Inyo was faced with grappling issues of freedom vs. security, as forces from within Starfleet manipulated things in attempts to stage a coup, only to be thwarted by Ben Sisko. Unlike the past two presidents, this one was actually given a name on the show. 

Notable dialog: "It took centuries for Earth to evolve into the peaceful haven it is today. I would hate to be remembered as the Federation president who destroyed Paradise"

(Capt. Proton) President of Earth
(VOY "Bride of Chaotica")

On Voyager Tom Paris like to play "Captain Proton" in a ‘show within a show’ based on old time black and white pulp sci-fi. But as is the custom, one day the holodeck goes haywire and some aliens think it is the real thing and so The Doctor is called in to play the part of "The President of Earth" in order to do some diplomacy. This is yet another unnamed president, and he didn’t even get one in the books. 

Notable dialog: "Chaotica has designs on Earth too. But we’ve withstood countless attacks, all thanks to one man: Captain Proton"

Time to vote…who is your favorite fictional Trek president?

Do you have a favorite fictional Trek president? Would you vote for any of these guys? Well you can in our latest poll (see right column).

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Nitpick Alert: Isn’t Archer also a Federation President? Well yes the events of Enterprise’s "In a Mirror, Darkly" do have a history of Archer that says he would go one to become the Federation’s first President. However we never saw him ‘as president’, and so he didn’t make our list.

 

 

Comments

1. Christine - February 15, 2010

Hm…. Not sure! All so good! 8D

2. Skippy2k - February 15, 2010

I would think Lincoln being in there would sway the results as he had real accomplishments (or at least the man he is portraying) where as all the others are completely fictional. I guess not since he isn’t actually ahead…

3. sean - February 15, 2010

Or Nan Bacco?

4. Anthony Pascale - February 15, 2010

sorry, we stayed with on-screen Presidents

5. Fortyseven - February 15, 2010

Really torn between Hiram Roth and Ra-ghorabreii. I love them both in different, yet equal ways.

Also, I never knew their names before today. I am now a man.

6. USS EXETER - February 15, 2010

Lincoln all the way on Presidents Day!

7. Gene L. Coon was a U. S. Marine. Stand at ease. - February 15, 2010

Nitpick/pedantic point.

The federal holiday is still named for our greatest President. It is officially “Washington’s Birthday”

“This holiday is designated as “Washington’s Birthday” in section 6103(a) of title 5 of the United States Code, which is the law that specifies holidays for Federal employees. Though other institutions such as state and local governments and private businesses may use other names, it is our policy to always refer to holidays by the names designated in the law.”

As far as Trek Presidents, I’ll take Lincoln. “Help me Kirk!”

And that lame-ass anti-Nixon jab about ‘this President not being above the law’ in ST VI was about twenty years late. Like making Ike jokes.

8. Captain Jack Bauer - February 15, 2010

I would vore for Nanietta Bacco, but she isn’t a canon President. So I’d say Jaresh-Inyo. Ra-ghorabreii is a close second.

9. Will_H - February 15, 2010

I liked Lincoln honestly, guy had balls. Kinda weird that Ra-ghorabreii is in the lead, considering he was willing to let Kirk and McCoy die, but I guess some people support his choice (like he’s a real president, lol).

10. Admiral Grand - February 15, 2010

While I like the list, my vote is with President Nan Bacco from the post Nemesis book universe. She is my all time favorite Federation President.

11. Andy Patterson - February 15, 2010

Excaliban Lincoln. “Help me Kiiiirk.” A great episode and another of three that substantiates that TOS happened two hundred years in the future and not three as TNG and the movies retro-actively changed. That’s one of my pet peeves. Just check the exchange in the briefing room between Kirk and Scotty, McCoy and Spock.

Plus some great Kirk Fu in it.

Happy President’s Day everyone.

12. Kayla Iacovino - February 15, 2010

Smart to put a nitpick alert in the article. I should employ this tactic!

13. CarlG - February 15, 2010

I’m going with President Ra-ghorabreii. Mainly because he was also Annorax, and Red from That 70′s Show.

“This President is not above the law, dumba**!”

14. Buzz Cagney - February 15, 2010

#13 yeh Red was brilliant. I’d make him President. lol
Vote for me, or I’ll stick my foot in your ass!
Kurtwood Smith is a great actor.

15. Admiral Archer's Prized Beagle - February 15, 2010

Definitely Lincoln in space. Question is, who should play Lincoln in space in the Star Trek sequel?

16. Anthony Pascale - February 15, 2010

It’s funny how they used the same costume for Star Trek VI as in ST IV, as if the President has a uniform, or they were too cheap to make a new one.

17. Hat Rick - February 15, 2010

Write-in candidate: JFK, without which the events of “Assignment: Earth” would not have been possible. (No Moon rocket.)

18. ryanhuyton - February 15, 2010

Anthony, they did use many TNG sets for VI, including redressing Ten-Forward for the President’s Office. So it is plainly obvious that they were being “cheapskates”LOL.

19. Magic - February 15, 2010

Ra-ghorabreii of course!

We know where the Federation puts their foot when needed!

20. I am not Herbert - February 15, 2010

(Excaliban) President Lincoln: “Help me Kiiiirk.”

EXCELLENT!!

21. Sci - February 15, 2010

Quick correction:

President Ra-ghoratreii was named in Sarek, but that novel was written by A.C. Crispin, not Keith R.A. DeCandido. KRAD kept that name in Articles of the Federation.

22. Hat Rick - February 15, 2010

Actually, I always thought Trek looked fantastic regardless of the dough factor. :-)

23. FelixP - February 15, 2010

Kurtwood Smith = Clarence Boddicker
“Vote for me and everybody gets a state of the art bang-bang!”

24. ryanhuyton - February 15, 2010

#23 Its funny you mention Clarence Boddicker. “Robocop” has some strong Star Trek connections. Three of the main stars ( Kurtwood Smith, Ronnie Cox and Peter Weller) all had roles in some popular two-parters.
Kurtwood Smith ( Year of Hell,VOY ) Ronnie Cox (Chain of Command,TNG) and Peter Weller ( Terra Prime and Demons, ENT).

25. RetroWarbird - February 15, 2010

Kurtwood Smith by a mile. I’ve always been into Trek, but I wasn’t always up-to-spec on every aspect of it. I thought for YEARS there were only 5 classic Trek films. I never knew anything about Star Trek VI … so it wasn’t until AFTER I’d been a huge high-school fan of That 70′s Show I caught Undiscovered Country on cable one time …

Apart from the novelty of Red Forman as Trek president, imagine my surprise to find a Trek film I’d never seen, totally on accident, and turns out it was THE best of the ten. (Arguably. I mean … Khan is Khan. They’re good for different reasons, though.)

But anyway, I’ve always wanted to know more about the near-sighted, gruff Efrosians thanks to Kurtwood Smith.

26. captainedd - February 15, 2010

While we’re talking presidential characters, Bruce Greenwood did play the President in National Treasure 2…and he played JFK in “Thirteen Days.”…so, my write in candidate is Bruce Greenwood. Since you mentioned “Robocop”, Miguel Ferrer (Robert Morton) was the first officer on Excelsior in ST-III.

27. Gabriel Bell - February 15, 2010

I can’t believe Jaresh-Inyo is last! This is a disaster!!!

(Seriously, I loved this thoughtful and intelligent president and these are two of my all-time favorite Trek episodes. Go back and watch “Homefront” and “Paradise Lost” and check out the the prescient portrayal of fear run amok when compared to the U-S-of-A circa 2002. Scary.)

28. captainedd - February 15, 2010

Oh, forgot something else…the President asks Ben Gates in “National Treasure 2″ about what is on page 47 in the secret book…

29. Jim Cude - February 15, 2010

Ra is where it’s at. He has cool John Lennon glasses and you know he smokes a bit…

30. AnotherQ - February 15, 2010

#28
Now that’s a good Easter egg catch…

31. wickedjacob - February 15, 2010

Jaresh-Inyo — just because those episodes are so awesome and prophetic. Funny how so much of DS9 seems to have been ahead of its time.

32. GarySeven - February 15, 2010

I don’t get how Lincoln could not be in a huge lead. First of all, he’s a real president with amazing accomplishments. Even if you disregard that, he had a much more developed and philosophical role in “The Savage Curtain” than all the other Presidents, who had smaller roles. What gives? Is it really cool glasses? Is this how Trek fans elect presidents?
Then again, most of us are Americans here (yes, including me) …so I’m not surprised.
“There’s so much of their work left to be done in the galaxy, Spock….”

33. Michael - February 15, 2010

Lincoln has Lincoln Logs!

None of these other guys has such a lasting achievement.

Pres. Abe “Don’t MAKE me take off my stove pipe hat” Lincoln FTW!

34. Bucky - February 15, 2010

Almost went for Lincoln just cause he’s floating in space but I voted for the Doc. cause Bride of Chaotica! is one of my favourite Star Trek episodes of all time.

35. HotStove - February 15, 2010

Hiram Roth – “Captain Kirk, you and your crew have saved this planet from its own short-sightedness and we are forever in your debt”.

This was a tough call between him and Lincoln (who wasn’t technically real). Jaresh-Inyo almost got the Federation overthrown by a Starfleet coup. Ra-ghorabreii left Bones and Kirk to freeze in the “alien’s graveyard”. The Doctor wasn’t a real president (although hilarious).

So, Hiram Roth.

36. HONEST WHO? - February 15, 2010

I’m 24 and I’m not surprised by Abe Lincoln not taking the lead. Why? Because I suspect people my age aren’t going to find a way to relate Abe Lincoln to Star Trek, despite his appearance in an episode. I chose President Ra-ghorabreii simply because he had the best writing provided for the character, of which might not hold a candle to the new presidential character that is obviously brewing in the minds of the writers. It’s pretty clear we’ll need a new one for the next Earth-ending, epic political podium scene in Star Trek Something Something.

37. Capt. of the USS Anduril - February 15, 2010

#7 It’s not Washington’s birthday though. Washington was born on the 22nd.

I’m gonna go with the Efrosian guy.

38. Hat Rick - February 15, 2010

Bruce Greenwood, as someone said, starred as JFK. So that would be two for JFK as a write-in, as far as I’m concerned. Plus JTK is really JFK in space.

39. boborci - February 15, 2010

38. Hat Rick – February 15, 2010

Agree.

40. Kirk's Revenge - February 15, 2010

Wait, wasn’t Hiram Roth in Godfather Part II?

41. Kirk's Revenge - February 15, 2010

Oh, that was HYMAN Roth.

42. pock speared - February 15, 2010

vote
That 70′s President: President Ra-ghorabreii
“This president is not above the law. Are you stoned?”

btw, wasn’t he intended to be Deltan? As in: the chicks are hairless and the dudes have furry white eyebrows? Like that navigator in ST4, groaning as they built a solar sail? Huh?

43. I am not Herbert - February 15, 2010

38. Hat Rick: “…JTK is really JFK in space.”

FULL AGREEMENT!

44. JohnWA - February 15, 2010

Of the canonical presidents, I have to go with Ra-ghorabreii. He was the only one who showed any sort of judgment.

He told the Klingon ambassador he wouldn’t intervene before he actually made a decision. He then held secret consultations with the Romulan ambassador, Sarek, and Starfleet Command about possible options. That shows a degree of cunning that’s rare for the Federation. Even though it wasn’t the decision the viewer wanted to hear, Ra ultimately came to the right conclusions as well. A Federation attack on Rura Penthe would’ve played right into Chang’s hands and ended any prospect of peace with the Klingons. Moreover, because their empire was on the verge collapse, the Klingon response would’ve been to launch an all out assault on anybody they could find.

- Jaresh Inyo was so naive and easily manipulated that I found it incredible anyone would vote for him. His quip about being in politics for 70 years only reinforced the fact that he must be a very slow learner.

- Hiram Roth was better than Jareash Inyo, but not by much. He was very indecisive during the whole Genesis debacle – he was presumably in office during “The Wrath of Khan” and “The Search for Spock” – and the subsequent Whale Probe crisis.

45. CarlG - February 15, 2010

@29: Yeah, those little round shades looked pretty badass. I think on the DVD commentary they said he was supposed to be blind or something, and the specs were like a proto-VISOR. I think.

46. Nivenus - February 15, 2010

President Lincoln doesn’t really count as he’s not really a real Federation President and only imitates an American one.

Jareash Inyo seems hopelessly out of his depth – not a bad guy, just not really in control of things. I believe he even says he didn’t want to become President but was simply pressured to by his political allies.

Hiram Roth seems… I don’t know, he doesn’t seem like much. He smiles and he talks about reconciliation and all and he certainly seems to be in command… but somehow he doesn’t rub off well on me. Maybe it’s because he lets Kirk off so easy – yeah, I get it, he literally saved the planet – but somehow handing him back a command and giving him a slap on the wrist demotion (that Kirk really wanted anyway) seems either unrealistic or smarmy (like somehow he expected some kind of gain out of the experience).

So, yeah, I’m going with President Ra-ghorabreii – a President who knows when to use diplomacy but isn’t going to be pushed around either by his allies or his enemies.

47. CarlG - February 15, 2010

@44: I imaginge the majority of Jaresh-Inyo’s tenure was pretty dull.

Early 24th century: KHITOMER!!

Next 50-ish years: Yeah, we’re cool.

DS9 era: BORGSON’ADOMINIONROMULANS! Gah!

Maybe he was supposed to be a “caretaker” president, and just sort of keep things that were already boringly prosperous on an even keel. It also must have come from way out of left field that Starfleet — traditionally the whitest of white hats — tried to backstab him. Still, he’s not exactly what you’d call an inspiring type.

48. Steve - February 16, 2010

47. “Still, he’s not exactly what you’d call an inspiring type.”

Could say the same about Gordon Brown, yet he is still running us poor Brits! :-(

49. captain_neill - February 16, 2010

24

Don’t forget Ray Wise, who played Leon in RoboCop was also in Trek twice, Who Watches the Watchers and Hope and Fear.

50. fansince66 - February 16, 2010

Although I wish Lincoln was president right now (He’d have the stones to print U.S. Treasury greenbacks & knock the global bankster syndicate on its’ butt), I don’t really think He belongs in this line-up.

I vote for Ra. He even LOOKS like a great & gracious leader. Maybe the Federation will institute the use of powdered wigs & mustashes for succeeding presidents.

51. Neil Douglas - February 16, 2010

Nan Bacco!! She’s great. (Very Janeway) I’m inspired by 24 season 8 to imagine President Kathryn Janeway holding talk for Cardassia’a entry into the Federation. With Tuvok as Secretary of State of course!

52. Christopher L. Bennett - February 16, 2010

Wasn’t Ra-Ghoratreii actually given his name by J.M. Dillard in her novelization of The Undiscovered Country?

53. Gene L. Coon was a U. S. Marine. Stand at ease. - February 16, 2010

@37. Capt. of the USS Anduril – February 15, 2010
“#7 It’s not Washington’s birthday though. Washington was born on the 22nd.”

Of course. I said the “Federal Holiday” was still named for GW.

ST Lincoln wins, and it isn’t even close.

54. CarlG - February 16, 2010

@48: You think you’ve got uninspiring leaders? I live in Canada.

Yeah. :P

55. Buzz Cagney - February 16, 2010

Now if they’d only got Kurtwood Smith to play Lincoln………….

56. Damian - February 16, 2010

As far as real life Presidents, Abraham Lincoln wins hands down. Without him, we would be two 3rd world countries right now. He set the stage for the USA future.

For Star Trek canon, I have to go with Ra-ghorabreii. He was decisive, but considered all the options first. To me, he also looked the most presidential. Hiram Roth also looked presidential, but he lacked the decisiveness of Ra-ghorabreii. Jaresh Inyo allowed himself to be manipulated, so he does not make my list.

All time best Star Trek president overall would have to be Nan Bacco from the novels. I love the way she is portrayed in the books. She is decisive, considers all the options and makes informed decisions, and she is tough as nails. She got a Klingon ambassador to respect her. God help anyone who crosses her. She is one tough character.

57. BuckeyeTrek - February 16, 2010

Nan Bacco hands down. She might as well be canon. I don’t get the Abe Lincoln thing. He was an American President, although probably the best one we ever had.

58. Keith - February 16, 2010

The Doc, always.

59. LCDR Arch - February 16, 2010

The Savage Curtain has forever given me the idea of what it would be like to meet Lincoln. To me, the actor nailed it so well any other view of Lincoln seems wrong. Of course it seems real since it was taken from Kirk’s mind….

60. Captain Dunsel - February 16, 2010

@48 – Steve “Gordon Brown [...] is still running us poor Brits! :-(”

Don’t you mean “Gordon Brown [...] is still running us Brits poor! :-(”

(Sorry – I’m a bit of a Daniel Hannan fan, even though I’m a Yank! [grin])

61. Andy Patterson - February 16, 2010

32

“There’s so much of their work left to be done in the galaxy, Spock….”

Yes, great line. I’ve long been a bit confused as to exactly what Kirk is referring to when he says that.

62. Imrahil - February 16, 2010

Eric Foreman’s dad.

63. oodanthemanoo@live.com - February 16, 2010

Eric Forman’s Dad Indeed!
“You know why bad things happen to you Admiral Cartwright, it’s not because your a traitor, its because your a dumbass.”

64. WE ARE LANDRU - February 16, 2010

And y’all just gotta LOVE the Doctor playing Earths President for one reason: a preview of his look as Woolsey on Stargate SG1 and later Stargate Atlantis:)

65. Jesse - February 16, 2010

My favorite Star Trek president is the EMH, but my favorite Abe Lincoln is Rex Hamilton.

66. rogue_alice - February 16, 2010

Uhura had the best line as she replys to Lincoln: “But why should I object to that term, sir? In our century, we’ve learned not to fear words.”

A strong woman, confident and classy. I’d marry the TOS Uhura!!!!

67. Dunsel Report - February 16, 2010

Uhura’s retort never made any sense. Does she mean that in the 22nd century, she wouldn’t object if McCoy began addressing her using that word all the time?

68. Lou - February 16, 2010

Red Foreman FTW

69. Rastaman - February 16, 2010

Lincoln. Whoever played him had some serious acting gravitas! One of [the few] highlights from Season 3.

70. MrRegular - February 16, 2010

Lincoln, without a doubt. If he were president he would find the money to keep NASA going towards the moon and beyond. NASA’s proposed redirection sends it nowhere. I guess “hope” and “audacity” end at the edge of the atmosphere by the estimation of our current president. Too bad.

71. Magic_Al - February 16, 2010

Gotta go with Space Lincoln, no contest. I don’t care what these presidents are supposed to have accomplished in-universe, Space Lincoln is by far the most memorable, well-written, well-acted, emotionally resonating of this subset of characters. With due credit to William Shatner’s actually nuanced portrayal, of a hero tempted by hero worship despite knowing better. Kirk’s instinctive belief in “Lincoln” makes the audience want to believe in him too.

72. thebiggfrogg - February 16, 2010

“This president is not above the law.” What a concept! Gets my vote.

73. Nivenus - February 16, 2010

@70.

I think you have a bizarre idea of Lincoln. Seriously, what evidence are you basing that on? When did Lincoln deal with anything *remotely* like a space program? His entire focus was on the war. If anything, he’s probably cancel the space program as an unnecessary distraction from military commitments in Afghanistan and Iraq (not a big fan of the latter but let’s not pretend Lincoln wasn’t a militarist).

I’m not a huge fan of our current goals space program-wise but this strikes me as partisan trolling.

74. LordChancellor - February 17, 2010

If we’re going to discuss Presidents, why not extend it to the other major heads of State seen in Star Trek? You’ve got Chancellors Gorkon, K’mpec, Gowron, and Martok, Praetors Neral and Hiren (and, hah, Shinzon), Grand Naguses Zek and Rom, Legates Parn, Damar, and that third guy who got killed in the last episode of DS9, even the Female Founder to a degree. Granted, I still love Ra-ghorabreii because that was an awesome portrayal in a tense political atmosphere, but there’s decent leadership all over Trek.

75. SChaos1701 - February 17, 2010

It’s all about Ra-ghorabreii. Although I was kinda hoping at the end of TUC that he would call Kirk a “DUMBASS!!!!”

76. Nivenus - February 17, 2010

74.

You have a good point although. Of course, we are talking about a US holiday and the Federation is a US analogue in space. I imagine that’s why the focus is on the Federation.

But yeah, there are definitely some excellent/awesome alien statesmen out in the franchise.

77. Dr. Diehard - February 22, 2010

@ 71 Magic AL

You hit the nail on the head.

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