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	<title>Comments on: 2 Young Adult Star Trek Movie Tie-in &#8216;Starfleet Academy&#8217; Novels Coming In November</title>
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		<title>By: Allan Albright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Albright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will there ever be any stories about Captain Robert April?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will there ever be any stories about Captain Robert April?</p>
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		<title>By: naseweis</title>
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		<dc:creator>naseweis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 12:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with #1. I only read the adult TOS books, even as a child. The YA books were considered badly written and childish among my TOS friends.
They shouldn&#039;t underestimate the young audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with #1. I only read the adult TOS books, even as a child. The YA books were considered badly written and childish among my TOS friends.<br />
They shouldn&#8217;t underestimate the young audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Nar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for reading adventure, but the romance promised here better equal more S/U--without the fluffy Edward and Bella &#039;needy woman&#039; dynamic---or I&#039;m out. Lets looks at healthy relationship where neither party compromises who they are to be together please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for reading adventure, but the romance promised here better equal more S/U&#8211;without the fluffy Edward and Bella &#8216;needy woman&#8217; dynamic&#8212;or I&#8217;m out. Lets looks at healthy relationship where neither party compromises who they are to be together please.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>40. damian: &#039;My very first Star Trek novel was Battlestations way back in 1987. I was only 12 at the time.&#039;

My first Trek novel too; same age as well. I picked it up at the World Science Fiction Convention in Brighton shortly before my Dad and I were ejected for being there and not having paid to go in!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40. damian: &#8216;My very first Star Trek novel was Battlestations way back in 1987. I was only 12 at the time.&#8217;</p>
<p>My first Trek novel too; same age as well. I picked it up at the World Science Fiction Convention in Brighton shortly before my Dad and I were ejected for being there and not having paid to go in!!</p>
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		<title>By: JohnWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>45-

(1) Has the Congress ever demoted an officer in the U.S. armed forces?

I found this part of The Voyage Home perplexing. I was under the impression that was usually handled by the military itself. And in extreme cases, by POTUS and Secretary of Defense, in their role as civilian controllers of the military. But I just don&#039;t know. Maybe the military historians among us can provide more insight than I can. 

(2) Can a person actually hold the title of &quot;commander in chief&quot; without being president?

With regards to the commander in chief issue, I am not suggesting the president was ever an active duty Starfleet admiral. However, Admiral Bill in The Undiscovered Country was addressed as &quot;The C-in-C,&quot; not Chief of Staff. I suspect this was simply an error nobody caught before the shoot.  But it is out there and has been the catalyst for all sorts of debate over at Memory Alpha.</description>
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<p>(1) Has the Congress ever demoted an officer in the U.S. armed forces?</p>
<p>I found this part of The Voyage Home perplexing. I was under the impression that was usually handled by the military itself. And in extreme cases, by POTUS and Secretary of Defense, in their role as civilian controllers of the military. But I just don&#8217;t know. Maybe the military historians among us can provide more insight than I can. </p>
<p>(2) Can a person actually hold the title of &#8220;commander in chief&#8221; without being president?</p>
<p>With regards to the commander in chief issue, I am not suggesting the president was ever an active duty Starfleet admiral. However, Admiral Bill in The Undiscovered Country was addressed as &#8220;The C-in-C,&#8221; not Chief of Staff. I suspect this was simply an error nobody caught before the shoot.  But it is out there and has been the catalyst for all sorts of debate over at Memory Alpha.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Federation basically follows the same structure as the United States. Starfleet is at it&#039;s core a military organization. But they ultimately answer to the Federation Council and the President. Operational orders are generally handled by Starfleet itself. And like the US, there is a Starfleet Chief of Staff who acts like a liason between the Council and Starfleet. Generally speaking, the Council has something they want done, and they pass that to the Admirals at Starfleet and it is up to them to get it done. But they are usually given leeway as to how they carry it out. Something like the US Congress and the President decide they want military action somewhere. The US military generally handles the planning and how it is carried out. But they still have to answer to Congress and the President. 

The President&#039;s shows in Star Trek has never been a Star Fleet admiral. I think you may be confusing one of the chiefs of staff or one of the Vice-Admirals for the President. Only 3 have been shown on screen, and some have been noted in the novels. I believe there may have been former Starfleet officer mentioned in the books that went on to become President, but they were retired from Starfleet. 

Star Trek always left the impression that Kirk and McCoy already knew each other before they were assigned to the Enterprise. They never established how, though. In the book Strangers from the Sky, Margaret Wander Bonanno noted that McCoy was away from the Enterprise when Piper was CMO due to personal issues. However, the Vanguard book &quot;Harbinger&quot; does go with the theory that Kirk and McCoy did not know each other. So there is some dispute here as to whether they were actually friends before the Enterprise. I guess take your pick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Federation basically follows the same structure as the United States. Starfleet is at it&#8217;s core a military organization. But they ultimately answer to the Federation Council and the President. Operational orders are generally handled by Starfleet itself. And like the US, there is a Starfleet Chief of Staff who acts like a liason between the Council and Starfleet. Generally speaking, the Council has something they want done, and they pass that to the Admirals at Starfleet and it is up to them to get it done. But they are usually given leeway as to how they carry it out. Something like the US Congress and the President decide they want military action somewhere. The US military generally handles the planning and how it is carried out. But they still have to answer to Congress and the President. </p>
<p>The President&#8217;s shows in Star Trek has never been a Star Fleet admiral. I think you may be confusing one of the chiefs of staff or one of the Vice-Admirals for the President. Only 3 have been shown on screen, and some have been noted in the novels. I believe there may have been former Starfleet officer mentioned in the books that went on to become President, but they were retired from Starfleet. </p>
<p>Star Trek always left the impression that Kirk and McCoy already knew each other before they were assigned to the Enterprise. They never established how, though. In the book Strangers from the Sky, Margaret Wander Bonanno noted that McCoy was away from the Enterprise when Piper was CMO due to personal issues. However, the Vanguard book &#8220;Harbinger&#8221; does go with the theory that Kirk and McCoy did not know each other. So there is some dispute here as to whether they were actually friends before the Enterprise. I guess take your pick.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>43-

Having McCoy as Kirk&#039;s classmate is an oddity. However, he might have been pursuing another degree at Starfleet Academy as a graduate student. When the Enterprise was called into service, I got the impression that &quot;cadet&quot; McCoy actually outranked most of the other cadets as Assistant Medical Officer. That&#039;s probably some sort of acknowledgment to his experience.  

But I don&#039;t understand Star Trek&#039;s chain of command in general. Sometimes the Federation President is referred to as &quot;commander in chief&quot; and sometimes it is a four star admiral. The Federation Council actually demoted Kirk in The Voyage Home. They&#039;ve also given operational orders to officers in the field (TNG, DS9). Isn&#039;t that like Congress micro-managing a war over the authority of the president?</description>
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<p>Having McCoy as Kirk&#8217;s classmate is an oddity. However, he might have been pursuing another degree at Starfleet Academy as a graduate student. When the Enterprise was called into service, I got the impression that &#8220;cadet&#8221; McCoy actually outranked most of the other cadets as Assistant Medical Officer. That&#8217;s probably some sort of acknowledgment to his experience.  </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t understand Star Trek&#8217;s chain of command in general. Sometimes the Federation President is referred to as &#8220;commander in chief&#8221; and sometimes it is a four star admiral. The Federation Council actually demoted Kirk in The Voyage Home. They&#8217;ve also given operational orders to officers in the field (TNG, DS9). Isn&#8217;t that like Congress micro-managing a war over the authority of the president?</p>
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		<title>By: skyjedi</title>
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		<dc:creator>skyjedi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does this mean they can greenlight Shatners next Kirk Academy tale since they are doing Academy stuff, or is it JJverse stuff only?

These Academy stories are not nearly as interesting to me as stories set after the end of Trek 2009 in the new timeline.

I mean Lucas had no fears about Alan Dean Foster writing Splinter of the Minds Eye when he was busy working on The Empire Strikes back because books are EU.

The difference now between book canon and film canon though got skewed by the writers of the new film.  So i wonder if its because fans would think these books are canon sequels and it would ruin whatever the second film could do business wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does this mean they can greenlight Shatners next Kirk Academy tale since they are doing Academy stuff, or is it JJverse stuff only?</p>
<p>These Academy stories are not nearly as interesting to me as stories set after the end of Trek 2009 in the new timeline.</p>
<p>I mean Lucas had no fears about Alan Dean Foster writing Splinter of the Minds Eye when he was busy working on The Empire Strikes back because books are EU.</p>
<p>The difference now between book canon and film canon though got skewed by the writers of the new film.  So i wonder if its because fans would think these books are canon sequels and it would ruin whatever the second film could do business wise.</p>
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		<title>By: gulfjetguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gulfjetguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When is the next Vangaurd book coming out?</description>
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		<title>By: Steamblade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steamblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>18, et al: 
My point being when McCoy boards the &quot;enlistment&quot; shuttle he says &quot;I am a doctor.&quot; Which to me says that he has already been through his undergraduate studies at Ole Miss, unless Nero somehow screwed that up too, and has at least finished medical school to call himself that. So, other than to be Jim&#039;s buddy, why would McCoy need to go to the Academy? Starfleet doesn&#039;t have an Officer Candidate School? I realize that we aren&#039;t dealing with the best of scripts, but this is one of my biggest gripes in a movie that is so desperate to tell its feeble story that logic and common sense be damned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18, et al:<br />
My point being when McCoy boards the &#8220;enlistment&#8221; shuttle he says &#8220;I am a doctor.&#8221; Which to me says that he has already been through his undergraduate studies at Ole Miss, unless Nero somehow screwed that up too, and has at least finished medical school to call himself that. So, other than to be Jim&#8217;s buddy, why would McCoy need to go to the Academy? Starfleet doesn&#8217;t have an Officer Candidate School? I realize that we aren&#8217;t dealing with the best of scripts, but this is one of my biggest gripes in a movie that is so desperate to tell its feeble story that logic and common sense be damned.</p>
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