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	<title>Comments on: Analyzing Star Trek&#8217;s Chances At Academy Awards &#8211; Time For Trek&#8217;s First Oscar?</title>
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		<title>By: Asa Sobeski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asa Sobeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi just wanted to give you a quick heads up and let you know a few of the pictures aren&#039;t loading properly. I&#039;m not sure why but I think its a linking issue. I&#039;ve tried it in two different internet browsers and both show the same outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi just wanted to give you a quick heads up and let you know a few of the pictures aren&#8217;t loading properly. I&#8217;m not sure why but I think its a linking issue. I&#8217;ve tried it in two different internet browsers and both show the same outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Skirt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Skirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#75, John, I think he&#039;s talking about the unpredictable actions of the main characters: 

Spock as captain of the ship beaming down to rescue his parents while his ship is in danger, Chekov being a boy genius with transporter skills that rival Scotty&#039;s own, ejecting Kirk off the ship because he was being difficult, Nero marooning Spock on a satellite to watch the destruction of Vulcan when the view would have been so much better from Nero&#039;s ship, Kirk not being eaten by the local wildlife and stumbling into the very cave Spock was marooned in (and not being eaten either despite his advanced age), Scotty also being stationed in the same place in a facility with the equipment necessary to effect sophisticated beaming technology not yet invented for 100 years, Spock publicly making out with Uhura on the transporter pad just before beaming off on a dangerous mission, only sending two men to battle an entire ship full of superior Romulans which should they have failed would have blown their only chance to save the world, waiting around a rapidly forming blackhole to shoot the bad guy who was already a dead man, and finally last but not least, the promotion of Kirk from cadet to captain of the Enterprise without any explanation.

I definitely didn&#039;t see any of that coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#75, John, I think he&#8217;s talking about the unpredictable actions of the main characters: </p>
<p>Spock as captain of the ship beaming down to rescue his parents while his ship is in danger, Chekov being a boy genius with transporter skills that rival Scotty&#8217;s own, ejecting Kirk off the ship because he was being difficult, Nero marooning Spock on a satellite to watch the destruction of Vulcan when the view would have been so much better from Nero&#8217;s ship, Kirk not being eaten by the local wildlife and stumbling into the very cave Spock was marooned in (and not being eaten either despite his advanced age), Scotty also being stationed in the same place in a facility with the equipment necessary to effect sophisticated beaming technology not yet invented for 100 years, Spock publicly making out with Uhura on the transporter pad just before beaming off on a dangerous mission, only sending two men to battle an entire ship full of superior Romulans which should they have failed would have blown their only chance to save the world, waiting around a rapidly forming blackhole to shoot the bad guy who was already a dead man, and finally last but not least, the promotion of Kirk from cadet to captain of the Enterprise without any explanation.</p>
<p>I definitely didn&#8217;t see any of that coming.</p>
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		<title>By: S. John Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. John Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#74: &quot;The story has the unique advantage of unpredictability.&quot;

Um. A scenery-chewing crazy-go-nuts cardboard Bad Guy shows up and starts killing people ... so the self-entitled douchebag Good Guys suit up, ship up and go stop him. The end.

Yeah. It&#039;s amazing no one ever thought to do that plot before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#74: &#8220;The story has the unique advantage of unpredictability.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um. A scenery-chewing crazy-go-nuts cardboard Bad Guy shows up and starts killing people &#8230; so the self-entitled douchebag Good Guys suit up, ship up and go stop him. The end.</p>
<p>Yeah. It&#8217;s amazing no one ever thought to do that plot before.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stories like Avatar, District 9, and Hurt Locker are pretty much 1 hit wonders. If sequels are made of these movies, they will likely be bad.
Where are you going to go with Avatar? It&#039;s likely going to follow the plight of the American Indian. District 9 could turn into a war of the worlds kind of scenario. Hurt Locker, well not much of story there to begin with, blow up more land mines?
Star Trek has and will stand the test of time. The story has the unique advantage of unpredictability. I could see several sequels resulting from this masterpiece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stories like Avatar, District 9, and Hurt Locker are pretty much 1 hit wonders. If sequels are made of these movies, they will likely be bad.<br />
Where are you going to go with Avatar? It&#8217;s likely going to follow the plight of the American Indian. District 9 could turn into a war of the worlds kind of scenario. Hurt Locker, well not much of story there to begin with, blow up more land mines?<br />
Star Trek has and will stand the test of time. The story has the unique advantage of unpredictability. I could see several sequels resulting from this masterpiece.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I was impressed by Avatar&#039;s stunning visuals, it lacked in story. Same for District 9. Didn&#039;t see Hurt Locker because there&#039;s not a story there worth seeing (about as exciting as making a movie about trash collectors I guess).
Start Trek was exciting from start to finish. I left the theatre that day feeling like I seen the best movie in years. Hands down, Star Trek was the best movie of 2009. In 2nd I would place Avatar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I was impressed by Avatar&#8217;s stunning visuals, it lacked in story. Same for District 9. Didn&#8217;t see Hurt Locker because there&#8217;s not a story there worth seeing (about as exciting as making a movie about trash collectors I guess).<br />
Start Trek was exciting from start to finish. I left the theatre that day feeling like I seen the best movie in years. Hands down, Star Trek was the best movie of 2009. In 2nd I would place Avatar.</p>
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		<title>By: Hat Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hat Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, just to be nominated for an Oscar is a relatively big deal.  Star Trek (2009) got four nominations, and Transformers: ROTF got only three.

Being nominated and, particularly, winning an Oscar helps classify you as a &quot;prestige film,&quot; which is good for the future of Trek.

All in all, cinematic Trek is doing better than TV Trek these days in terms of new product, attention, and bringing in new money.  But a rising tide lifts all boats.

ST2009&#039;s very good box office and a possible Oscar win could set up ST2012 for an unusually large budget.  It could also help in international ticket sales.

Big stars might be more likely to be associated with an Oscar-related property.

Also, I read yesterday that big stars are becoming more affordable in terms of upfront salary demands.

Recall that international sales apparently are helped by big Hollywood stars in your movie.

Without meaning to  in any way slight big names (e.g., Christopher Plummer) that have already appeared in Star Trek properties, Oscar might make Star Trek a star vehicle in a good way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, just to be nominated for an Oscar is a relatively big deal.  Star Trek (2009) got four nominations, and Transformers: ROTF got only three.</p>
<p>Being nominated and, particularly, winning an Oscar helps classify you as a &#8220;prestige film,&#8221; which is good for the future of Trek.</p>
<p>All in all, cinematic Trek is doing better than TV Trek these days in terms of new product, attention, and bringing in new money.  But a rising tide lifts all boats.</p>
<p>ST2009&#8217;s very good box office and a possible Oscar win could set up ST2012 for an unusually large budget.  It could also help in international ticket sales.</p>
<p>Big stars might be more likely to be associated with an Oscar-related property.</p>
<p>Also, I read yesterday that big stars are becoming more affordable in terms of upfront salary demands.</p>
<p>Recall that international sales apparently are helped by big Hollywood stars in your movie.</p>
<p>Without meaning to  in any way slight big names (e.g., Christopher Plummer) that have already appeared in Star Trek properties, Oscar might make Star Trek a star vehicle in a good way.</p>
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		<title>By: Hat Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hat Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reasons that Trek should win Best Make-Up are many, but one of those reasons has to do with the fact that it would be the first Academy Award for a Trek movie.  That&#039;s worth something.

You can question whether the Academy Awards are worth much, but winning one still means something in terms of popular recognition and prestige (to the extent that any popular film might be said to have prestige).

The last Star Wars films, Revenge of the Sith, was nominated in the same category, but lost.  (It did not win any Oscars.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reasons that Trek should win Best Make-Up are many, but one of those reasons has to do with the fact that it would be the first Academy Award for a Trek movie.  That&#8217;s worth something.</p>
<p>You can question whether the Academy Awards are worth much, but winning one still means something in terms of popular recognition and prestige (to the extent that any popular film might be said to have prestige).</p>
<p>The last Star Wars films, Revenge of the Sith, was nominated in the same category, but lost.  (It did not win any Oscars.)</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiowa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaiowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Oscars are meaningless in the same way the Grammys and American Idol are useless.  Kinda like how Jethro Tull won the Grammys &quot;Heavy Metal&quot; category in 1987 for &quot;Crest of a Knave&quot;, beating out Metallica and Judas Priest.  Or Shrek beating out Final Fantasy in the &quot;Best Animation&quot; category in 2001.  Or Frank Zappa&#039;s sole Grammy was awarded for &quot;Valley Girl&quot;...until he did &quot;Jazz From Hell&quot; in 87.

It&#039;s a shame that Shatner and Nimoy never received an Oscar for Khan, as their portray of Spock&#039;s death scene is absolutely one of best acted scenes in Trek or any genre.  Nor did they get anything for STIV:TVH back when Nimoy&#039;s directorial meteor was rising (remember the &quot;lightning in a bottle&quot; quote, anyone?)

Nimoy should have been nominated for best supporting actor this year just as a gimme-due because of to his value to the Trek community and for his willingness to bridge the generations.  He could have said &quot;screw it&quot; and kept with his photography work like a good semi-retired actor, but he showed up one more time for &quot;God and Country&quot; (to paraphrase Kirk in STVI.)

The last time I was interested in the Oscars was when streaking was in vogue, or when George Scott told them where to stick it by refusing his for &quot;Patton&quot;, or the so-called &#039;liberal&#039; Hollywood community booing Michael Moore during his speech.  The Oscars...about as real as a movie...about as real as it *doesn&#039;t* get...

This witty comment brought to you by Congress--the entertainment division of Wall Street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Oscars are meaningless in the same way the Grammys and American Idol are useless.  Kinda like how Jethro Tull won the Grammys &#8220;Heavy Metal&#8221; category in 1987 for &#8220;Crest of a Knave&#8221;, beating out Metallica and Judas Priest.  Or Shrek beating out Final Fantasy in the &#8220;Best Animation&#8221; category in 2001.  Or Frank Zappa&#8217;s sole Grammy was awarded for &#8220;Valley Girl&#8221;&#8230;until he did &#8220;Jazz From Hell&#8221; in 87.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that Shatner and Nimoy never received an Oscar for Khan, as their portray of Spock&#8217;s death scene is absolutely one of best acted scenes in Trek or any genre.  Nor did they get anything for STIV:TVH back when Nimoy&#8217;s directorial meteor was rising (remember the &#8220;lightning in a bottle&#8221; quote, anyone?)</p>
<p>Nimoy should have been nominated for best supporting actor this year just as a gimme-due because of to his value to the Trek community and for his willingness to bridge the generations.  He could have said &#8220;screw it&#8221; and kept with his photography work like a good semi-retired actor, but he showed up one more time for &#8220;God and Country&#8221; (to paraphrase Kirk in STVI.)</p>
<p>The last time I was interested in the Oscars was when streaking was in vogue, or when George Scott told them where to stick it by refusing his for &#8220;Patton&#8221;, or the so-called &#8216;liberal&#8217; Hollywood community booing Michael Moore during his speech.  The Oscars&#8230;about as real as a movie&#8230;about as real as it *doesn&#8217;t* get&#8230;</p>
<p>This witty comment brought to you by Congress&#8211;the entertainment division of Wall Street.</p>
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		<title>By: S. John Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. John Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#66: We can&#039;t really know how well Trek&#039;s FX will hold up after that many years, until that many years have passed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#66: We can&#8217;t really know how well Trek&#8217;s FX will hold up after that many years, until that many years have passed.</p>
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		<title>By: ryanhuyton</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryanhuyton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#67 It would be a start. But you can&#039;t remaster dialog, plot, Jake Lloyd&#039;s acting, annoying CGI characters......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#67 It would be a start. But you can&#8217;t remaster dialog, plot, Jake Lloyd&#8217;s acting, annoying CGI characters&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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