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	<title>Comments on: FOX Renews Fringe For 3rd Season</title>
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		<title>By: Luciana Píres</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2010/03/06/fox-renews-fringe-for-3rd-season/comment-page-2/#comment-2753772</link>
		<dc:creator>Luciana Píres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i´m from Brazil and i love this series!!! The 2nd seasons over in last week. Wow!!! It was so amazing... We´ll waiting for the next season!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i´m from Brazil and i love this series!!! The 2nd seasons over in last week. Wow!!! It was so amazing&#8230; We´ll waiting for the next season!</p>
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		<title>By: Red Skirt</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2010/03/06/fox-renews-fringe-for-3rd-season/comment-page-2/#comment-2573059</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Skirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51, Dalek, you can twist what they said any way you want. What matters is what they do with the inspiration afterward. For my money it is a direct rip-off – far more closely related to X-files than Star Wars to Star Trek, or LOL, Star Trek was to Wagon Train! You seem to be purposefully highlighting the few obvious differences to make your case (which must be there to make it its own show rather than &quot;X-Files: The Fringe Cases&quot;, and ignoring all the many similarities. 

I&#039;ve already said I don&#039;t have anything against the show and would like to see it be more appealing and do better, specifically because it is so much like X-Files – doesn&#039;t matter if it is a rip-off, there&#039;s absolutely nothing wrong with that if it&#039;s done well, and everything if not. Obviously Fringe has its fans as is, just not nearly enough to keep it safely on the air. Like the latest Star Trek film, those fans should hope  the producers are able to improve the show and make it more accessible to a wider audience in order to keep it on the air. But I&#039;m gonna call a spade a spade when I see one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51, Dalek, you can twist what they said any way you want. What matters is what they do with the inspiration afterward. For my money it is a direct rip-off – far more closely related to X-files than Star Wars to Star Trek, or LOL, Star Trek was to Wagon Train! You seem to be purposefully highlighting the few obvious differences to make your case (which must be there to make it its own show rather than &#8220;X-Files: The Fringe Cases&#8221;, and ignoring all the many similarities. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already said I don&#8217;t have anything against the show and would like to see it be more appealing and do better, specifically because it is so much like X-Files – doesn&#8217;t matter if it is a rip-off, there&#8217;s absolutely nothing wrong with that if it&#8217;s done well, and everything if not. Obviously Fringe has its fans as is, just not nearly enough to keep it safely on the air. Like the latest Star Trek film, those fans should hope  the producers are able to improve the show and make it more accessible to a wider audience in order to keep it on the air. But I&#8217;m gonna call a spade a spade when I see one.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#41 Inspiration doesn&#039;t mean that the work is some sort of rip-off. George Lucas was heavily inspired by Star Trek, amongst other things. Gene Roddenberry pitched Star Trek as &quot;Wagon Train to the stars&quot;. I&#039;m sure a great many things inspired the Fringe mythology including X-Files, Star Trek, Sliders, Alias...

#42 thanks Bob, am looking forward to what you guys come up with next!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#41 Inspiration doesn&#8217;t mean that the work is some sort of rip-off. George Lucas was heavily inspired by Star Trek, amongst other things. Gene Roddenberry pitched Star Trek as &#8220;Wagon Train to the stars&#8221;. I&#8217;m sure a great many things inspired the Fringe mythology including X-Files, Star Trek, Sliders, Alias&#8230;</p>
<p>#42 thanks Bob, am looking forward to what you guys come up with next!</p>
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		<title>By: EFFeX</title>
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		<dc:creator>EFFeX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been watching Fringe since the first episode and haven&#039;t missed a single airing. This is easily one of my favorites, if not my favorite show on television right now.

I&#039;m very excited about a third season! Great news!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been watching Fringe since the first episode and haven&#8217;t missed a single airing. This is easily one of my favorites, if not my favorite show on television right now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very excited about a third season! Great news!</p>
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		<title>By: Red Skirt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Skirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#47, I find this thread particularly fascinating for the simple reason that I have stated, but evidently not clearly enough for some: I was a fan of X-Files and this is the closet thing to it since it went off the air, heck the creators have even acknowledged as much.


&quot;I think most people who don’t like the show just didn’t connect with the characters. You want to spend time with characters, you know?&quot;

And that is exactly what I&#039;ve written here. Fringe does not resonate with me, and I want it to so badly. I also think the direction and ultimately editing by the producer&#039;s takes its toll as well. The pacing is just not there for me. And yet I want it to improve so I will want to watch it – it has so many elements that attract me, yet do not compel me to watch it.

Lost has this in spades, despite its extremely weak story. It&#039;s like the dramatic version of Family Guy some weeks and has wandered all over the map (alienating others in the process). But the cast is solid and dynamic and the show is structured, directed, and edited in the most compelling way. Sometimes I find myself wondering why I&#039;m watching such a silly show, but every act break sucks me back in for more. 

Fringe simply hasn&#039;t found that for me, despite being a more cohesive story than Lost. But I&#039;m happy it has a strong enough fan base that it will get another opportunity to find a wider audience. Considering how poorly Fringe has done, the producers will hopefully see this as a challenge to change, rather than a mandate to stay the course.

And that, to all of those who are continually perplexed why anyone who doesn&#039;t like something would show up to comment on it, is why I do. I can&#039;t speak for others, but I would like to see Fringe succeed, and all I can offer is my criticism of what doesn&#039;t work for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47, I find this thread particularly fascinating for the simple reason that I have stated, but evidently not clearly enough for some: I was a fan of X-Files and this is the closet thing to it since it went off the air, heck the creators have even acknowledged as much.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think most people who don’t like the show just didn’t connect with the characters. You want to spend time with characters, you know?&#8221;</p>
<p>And that is exactly what I&#8217;ve written here. Fringe does not resonate with me, and I want it to so badly. I also think the direction and ultimately editing by the producer&#8217;s takes its toll as well. The pacing is just not there for me. And yet I want it to improve so I will want to watch it – it has so many elements that attract me, yet do not compel me to watch it.</p>
<p>Lost has this in spades, despite its extremely weak story. It&#8217;s like the dramatic version of Family Guy some weeks and has wandered all over the map (alienating others in the process). But the cast is solid and dynamic and the show is structured, directed, and edited in the most compelling way. Sometimes I find myself wondering why I&#8217;m watching such a silly show, but every act break sucks me back in for more. </p>
<p>Fringe simply hasn&#8217;t found that for me, despite being a more cohesive story than Lost. But I&#8217;m happy it has a strong enough fan base that it will get another opportunity to find a wider audience. Considering how poorly Fringe has done, the producers will hopefully see this as a challenge to change, rather than a mandate to stay the course.</p>
<p>And that, to all of those who are continually perplexed why anyone who doesn&#8217;t like something would show up to comment on it, is why I do. I can&#8217;t speak for others, but I would like to see Fringe succeed, and all I can offer is my criticism of what doesn&#8217;t work for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fringe is one of the more in depth shows in TV right now. Even the mysterious &quot;observers&quot; have more character depth in one episode than many starring roles get on many other TV shows. Every new episode brings something new and right to the table.

It is like X-Files, except 10 times better and I can actually watch every single episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fringe is one of the more in depth shows in TV right now. Even the mysterious &#8220;observers&#8221; have more character depth in one episode than many starring roles get on many other TV shows. Every new episode brings something new and right to the table.</p>
<p>It is like X-Files, except 10 times better and I can actually watch every single episode.</p>
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		<title>By: BenAvery</title>
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		<dc:creator>BenAvery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m loving Fringe precisely because of what it is: an episodic series, which moves forward, slowly, the backstory and mythology. I&#039;m a comic book writer, and I&#039;ve actually started taking some of that to heart in my own work. You want things to move forward for the characters, you want change and you want development. But you also want to be accessible to casual viewers.

Fringe does this well. There&#039;s an interesting story that resolves itself in every episode, and sprinkled throughout, there are little pushes forward in the characterization.

This is unlike most episodic television. Star Trek, Star Trek The Next Generation, Star Trek Voyager, early Stargate, The A-Team, MacGuyver, etc. etc. -- in those show, the tension was simple: how will this plot be resolved so that by the end of the episode, everything is back to normal and every one is in the same emotional place they were in when the episode began. Data gets an emotion chip? Well, he&#039;s going to hide it. Until the movies, when the REAL characterization is allowed to begin. Picard was assimilated? We&#039;ll write an episode wherein he deals with it so we can move on to the regular stories. (Yeah, I know, broad strokes -- but you get the idea.)

I like series like Fringe, where anything can happen in an episode and it has lasting consequences. When Olivia&#039;s partner . . . I&#039;ll avoid the spoiler, but it bothered me because something happened that was not going to be undone.

But the other thing, whether episodic or serialized or a mix of both like Fringe, is whether or not you connect with the characters. I think most people who don&#039;t like the show just didn&#039;t connect with the characters. You want to spend time with characters, you know? I like the characters (testament to the writers and the actors) and as a result, I want to see what happens to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m loving Fringe precisely because of what it is: an episodic series, which moves forward, slowly, the backstory and mythology. I&#8217;m a comic book writer, and I&#8217;ve actually started taking some of that to heart in my own work. You want things to move forward for the characters, you want change and you want development. But you also want to be accessible to casual viewers.</p>
<p>Fringe does this well. There&#8217;s an interesting story that resolves itself in every episode, and sprinkled throughout, there are little pushes forward in the characterization.</p>
<p>This is unlike most episodic television. Star Trek, Star Trek The Next Generation, Star Trek Voyager, early Stargate, The A-Team, MacGuyver, etc. etc. &#8212; in those show, the tension was simple: how will this plot be resolved so that by the end of the episode, everything is back to normal and every one is in the same emotional place they were in when the episode began. Data gets an emotion chip? Well, he&#8217;s going to hide it. Until the movies, when the REAL characterization is allowed to begin. Picard was assimilated? We&#8217;ll write an episode wherein he deals with it so we can move on to the regular stories. (Yeah, I know, broad strokes &#8212; but you get the idea.)</p>
<p>I like series like Fringe, where anything can happen in an episode and it has lasting consequences. When Olivia&#8217;s partner . . . I&#8217;ll avoid the spoiler, but it bothered me because something happened that was not going to be undone.</p>
<p>But the other thing, whether episodic or serialized or a mix of both like Fringe, is whether or not you connect with the characters. I think most people who don&#8217;t like the show just didn&#8217;t connect with the characters. You want to spend time with characters, you know? I like the characters (testament to the writers and the actors) and as a result, I want to see what happens to them.</p>
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		<title>By: robowarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>robowarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES. If they&#039;d canceled it I&#039;d be crushed.</description>
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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>44

No I wouldn&#039;t but TNG was a much better show</description>
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<p>No I wouldn&#8217;t but TNG was a much better show</p>
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		<title>By: ryanhuyton</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryanhuyton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amazed by the people who come to a thread about a topic they don&#039;t like, yet they complain like there&#039;s no tomorrow. I think people like Red Skirt, Captain Neill and others can&#039;t stand other people enjoying something they don&#039;t and do their best to ruin the fun. 

Captain Neill: What if someone said to you in the middle of the third season of TNG they hope it would get cancelled? You wouldn&#039;t like it one bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed by the people who come to a thread about a topic they don&#8217;t like, yet they complain like there&#8217;s no tomorrow. I think people like Red Skirt, Captain Neill and others can&#8217;t stand other people enjoying something they don&#8217;t and do their best to ruin the fun. </p>
<p>Captain Neill: What if someone said to you in the middle of the third season of TNG they hope it would get cancelled? You wouldn&#8217;t like it one bit.</p>
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