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Syfy In Talks With Ron Moore To Develop New Battlestar Spin-off March 16, 2010

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: BSG,Celebrity,DS9,Sci-Fi,TNG , trackback

It looks like veteran Trek-writer Ron Moore may continue to emulate the Star Trek franchise as he is in talks with Syfy to expand the Battlestar Galactica franchise into a fourth series. Plus, indications are also good that Syfy will pick up the BSG prequel Caprica for a second season.

 

More BSG for Moore?

In 2004 Ron Moore successfully rebooted the 70s sci-fi series Battlestar Galactica for the Sci-Fi Channel (now Syfy) with a mini-series that went on to run as a critically-acclaimed show for 4 seasons. In a way, Moore replicated the success of Star Trek: The Next Generation, the show where the writer/producer got his start in Hollywood. Following BSG, Moore co-created Caprica, a Battlestar prequel which is currently running in its first season. Extending the Trek analogy, Caprica’s serialized character-based stories and religious themes are not unlike those of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (where Moore worked for five seasons writing 30 episodes). And despite modest ratings, Syfy remains bullish on Caprica, with Syfy’s Development VP Stern telling The Hollywood Reporter "We have a lot of hope for that show, The (DVR data) has been very promising and growing week after week. The ratings don’t reflect the potential audience."   

More interesting is that Stern also told THR that Syfy is interested in yet another Battlestar show, saying

We’re looking for other ways to spin off ‘Battlestar’ beyond ‘Caprica. That world is so rich. We’re sitting down with (executive producer) Ron Moore and his team. It would not necessarily be a traditional series.

Stern also told THR that the new BSG spinoff would "mark a return to the franchise’s space-opera roots." This may be an indication that Syfy recognizes that many of Battlestar’s core sci-fi fans haven’t taken to the more ‘grounded’ and character-based Caprica. If they want to get back to spaceships and laser fights, it seems that the first Cylon war might be a possible place to start. 


Is the BSG franchise going to get a fourth entry?

It is interesting that the sci-fi franchises of Battlestar Galactica, Stargate, Doctor Who, and Star Wars all have new TV series on the air and/or new spin-off series in development. How long can it be until CBS leverages the success of the new Star Trek movie and starts thinking seriously about a new Star Trek TV show?

 

 

 

Comments

1. Jim Ertel - March 16, 2010

Don’t do the same mistake as with Star trek, too much BSG will kill BSG.

2. Raktajino - March 16, 2010

I really like “Caprica.” The soap opera vibe really helps you get sucked into the show, plus it really works well in detailing the mythology. I look forward to the twists and turns that lead to the Cylon War.

3. atlantis1271 - March 16, 2010

I for one want to see more of Ron’s BSG universe. I enjoyed the show for its 4 seasons and couldn’t wait to see what would happen next.

If you’re reading this Ron give us more buddy. There is so much more there you can do.

4. Rover - March 16, 2010

Yes, the BSG universe is proven to be rich and diverse, but what about the ‘Verse that Whedon created in Firefly and Serenity. That dramatic landscape is just a diverse and has just as many possibilities. We need another show set in that goram universe, frak it all!

5. R. F. Crowson - March 16, 2010

When they first announced the development of Caprica, I was hoping that it would be what this potential fourth show might now become. The first Cylon war is exactly what the core to hard-core fans want. That’s not to say that Caprica isn’t a great show. I’m really enjoying it and all the great performances. But yeah — Bring on the heavy artillery, and more important, bring back the Galactica!

6. danno - March 16, 2010

@1 Here Here. Let Caprica grow, and maybe transition it into a Cylon War Series,but dont put the fourth show on the air at the same time.

“We need breathing room!” – Earth Hitler 1938 (STVI)

7. Commander Crooner - March 16, 2010

I am liking Caprica more with each episode.

I have an idea for a new BSG-series: A Battlestar’s jump drive gets damage when the Cylons attack the first time, and they somehow jump into an uncharted region of space that will take 7 years worth of jumps to return from…

Oh, yeah… right…

8. Horatio - March 16, 2010

Ya know, I loved BSG reboot. Couldn’t wait for each episode. I’m still a little lukewarm with Caprica.

Last weekend I had a fit of nostalgia and watched the original BSG premiere episode from 1978 (I found the DVD of the theatrical release at WalMart for $5 bucks – I couldn’t resist). And you know what, I enjoyed it completely and found myself missing the more uplifting storytelling. Corny, yeah it a way, but the dark BSG – as much as I loved it – has been done.

If SyFy does do another series, please make it feel like the original!! (And Ron Moore, i’ll forgive you for killing Kirk).

9. philpot - March 16, 2010

keep any new Trek off tv for at least 5 years please. I dont want to see the movie trek diluted by about 2 spin off series featured bumped headed aliens of the week.

let the movies fly the Trek flag for about 3 films – like 1979-86 when Trek was one of the big dawgs at the BO and each film was a huge event that felt like a PROPER big movie (not an extended ep) and could hold its own against whatever Spielberg or Lucas had out at the time..(and like now again at long last)

regarding another BSG show – i wonder how thatd effect Bryan Singers proposed big screen version? esp a spin off thats going to be all space battles and such still connected to the Moore show. i know Moores show was good and all but I’m quite looking foward to BSG getting the Trek treatment and done BIG with a 150m budget for 2012 or 2013..

10. ety3 - March 16, 2010

I’m fine with making it centered on the First Cylon War, but wouldn’t that be a little close to “Caprica?”

Meaning, I’ve always assumed that the end of “Caprica” would be the beginning of the Cylon rebellion. If they start in on the Cylon War before “Caprica” is over, won’t they be painting themselves into a corner?

11. SerenityActual - March 16, 2010

I’d love the first Cylon war :)

To see the screen filled with capital class ships and fighters ala Babylon 5, that would be cool.

12. Cap'n Calhoun - March 16, 2010

Fourth series? Counting the original but not Galactica 1980, are we?

13. ML31 - March 16, 2010

While Trek movies are fun… I honestly think Trek works better as a TV show.

Just sayin….

14. doubleofive - March 16, 2010

“Meaning, I’ve always assumed that the end of “Caprica” would be the beginning of the Cylon rebellion. If they start in on the Cylon War before “Caprica” is over, won’t they be painting themselves into a corner?”

Exactly what I was going to say. Its got to be hard enough to tell a compelling story that fits in with 4 years of established canon, but running Caprica and The Cylon War at the same time would make Caprica even harder to write. Though it might be nice to make them plan Caprica out to fit perfectly into TCW. A definitive endgame instead of just “Cylons rebel” might be good to work towards.

15. William - March 16, 2010

If they were to do a new show it would great for it to center on the true beginning of Moore’s rebooted Galactica and place the show on Kobal. That could be a great story. In that universe that’s were human life as far as they knew began, they clearly developed their own brand of Cylon and at some point, for whatever reason, they fled to what would become the colonies. Now that would be a great series.

16. Alex Rosenzweig - March 16, 2010

“It is interesting that the sci-fi franchises of Battlestar Galactica, Stargate, Doctor Who, and Star Wars all have new TV series on the air and/or new spin-off series in development. How long can it be until CBS leverages the success of the new Star Trek movie and starts thinking seriously about a new Star Trek TV show?”

None of those other franchises have an ongoing theatrical series in place at the moment. Star Trek does. The time for a new Trek series will be when the feature film cycle is done. Hopefully the lesson will have been learned and they won’t try again to put new Trek on TV and in theaters simultaneously.

On the topic of Mooreverse Galactica, I actually find Caprica vastly more interesting to watch than nuBSG. At least I don’t end most episodes wishing for the bad guys to just finish the job already! ;) Not sure how I’d find another series in that ‘verse, though.

OTOH…

I wonder what’s happening with the alleged Larsonverse BSG project that was being discussed last year. That had me actually excited!

17. Anthony Pascale - March 16, 2010

Galactica 1980. I always thought of it as extension of original although technically it is dif series. That and it sucked

Re caprica and first cylon war show too close?
Trek ran multiple shows set in the same time period. Plus look at all the csi and law & order shows. The main thing is a new space opera would be different tone (and audience) from Caprica. And second cylon war is done so it’s either first war or set in the peace in between (less chances for space battles). Plus Caprica may get cancelled despite bullish talk. Syfy can do what they did with Stargate and cancel one (Atlantis) and launch new take (sgu)

18. David - March 16, 2010

The first cylon war is the most obvious choice.

19. KevinA Melbourne Australia - March 16, 2010

I could not get into BSG Reboot at all. Bring back Robot Cylons and you may get me in!

20. J_schinderlin56 - March 16, 2010

Another show I won’t watch.

21. robowarrior - March 16, 2010

The original from 1978 totally pwns the new stuff.

22. Will - March 16, 2010

Sorry , but Caprica is no Battlestar. Would love another Star Trek show

23. MorbidGorn - March 16, 2010

“I’m still a little lukewarm with Caprica. ”

Same here. While I like it, I never have the same gusto to see it as I did BSG or any of the Trek shows.

I keep watching and hoping that it will “find it legs” like TNG did in season 3, while I hope it does not take that long to do so.

I will keep on watching though. I’m sure things will unfold in a way that shows the coming future of the 12 colonies in a way that will be too cool to miss.

24. S. John Ross - March 16, 2010

#12: Yeah, I noticed that as well :/

25. jas_montreal - March 16, 2010

Interesting……

As long as they don’t do what trek did in the 90’s. Create yet ANOTHER sci-fi show with another ship traveling in space (aka. Voyager).

But all the power to Ron ! I’m looking forward to continue following the BSG franchise unfold with more depth.

Last, I’m glad Caprica is getting a season 2. Its probably one of the best shows out there now.

26. =A= - March 16, 2010

i want keep both star trek cand bsg!!!!!!!!!!!!!

27. Nivenus - March 16, 2010

I’m loving Caprica but if I were Moore I’d be cautious here. They should really focus in smoothing out Caprica’s rough spots (and there are rough spots) and helping it cement itself before they even *think* about developing another BSG spinoff.

Give Caprica another season or two. Then we can talk about another BSG show.

28. philpot - March 16, 2010

17 – ‘Galactica 1980. I always thought of it as extension of original although technically it is dif series. That and it sucked’

hey ‘The Return of Starbuck’ was pretty good. i liked the way it was left open ended as to what happened to (the original) Starbuck. there was bound to be some resolution had the series been a success but its kinda cool there wasnt…

but yeah the rest of the show wasnt good.

29. Dyson Sphere - March 16, 2010

Caprica is ok but seems slow paced. Needs some pick-up, at least in space you had explosions and lasers.

30. oby - March 16, 2010

How about a couple of made for SyFy Trek movies each year? Easier to keep it fresh I think.

31. rohrerbot - March 16, 2010

The new series…..should be….Kobol and titled as such. That would not only be fascinating, but also truly interesting. Another possibility could be the launch of “The 13th Colony”. These could really be something special. Kobol though strikes me as more interesting….the beginning of man and later machine and then the departure of the 13th colony. To me, there is a bigger story there. Did humans learn to ascend like in Stargate and hence the creation of angels and gods? Was/Is Starbuck part of this all? Is the 13th tribe the one that believes in God because he/she was the leader of that tribe and that is why cylons believe in one god? To me the mystery all stems to that cave with the arrow and the star map….who were those people? Don’t know anything….but it could be some really heavy sci fi stuff. Even the title Kobol stands on its’ own…..just saying:)

32. AJ - March 16, 2010

I think the trappings of capitalism make it impossible for Star Trek to not be the next thing “in development” for TV at CBS. ST09 did well enough to make it cool again, and a sexy new crew on its own adventures would draw huge numbers to the first episode.

It’s keeping them that’s important. And with the lessons learned from TNG through ENT, as well as an eye toward what is currently successful, Trek could really excel on the small screen.

I’m sure Ron Moore would disagree ;-)

33. Pyork (JE) - March 16, 2010

#6
Are you saying Star Trek grew too big? Because it didn’t, it just grew stupid because of Berman.

#12
The Cylon War would last about 12 minutes. If you remember, the humans on Caprica were caught off guard and slaughtered.

#20
Amen. Battlestar was good up until season 4.5. The show ends at season 4 for me.

34. Nivenus - March 16, 2010

@33 (hey, arc number!)

I’m 100% positive he meant the first Cylon War, which lasted about ten years (give or take).

35. MikeTen - March 16, 2010

Even if Galactica 1980 was bad, it did have some good ideas like Cylons that looked like humans and they did the time war thing before Enterprise.

36. Steve - March 16, 2010

Remember that CBS expressed interest in Enterprise before it premiered. My theory that I have to this day was that Berman knew he couldn’t produce a show that would have “Big 3″ network quality to it and went the easier rout with UPN. Hopefully CBS would have the right people that know how to make a successful series that would do a really cool Star Trek. TNG was really good but Voyager and DS9 and Enterprise were only okay (at best) and were not the kind of shows you’d see on one of the “big 3″ that would draw a good audience.

37. fansince66 - March 16, 2010

Oooh yeah! A cylon “Sparticus” leads the cylon slave soldiers into a revolt against the humans, & each side consists of both humans & cylons.

38. Chunga Wunga - March 16, 2010

Frack it. Tell the snobbish “Hard Sci-Fi” fans to shove it and give us a good old-fashioned Space Opera, with clearly defined heroes and obvious as hell villains. All this “it needs to be relevant to today’s society” is all fine and dandy, but there needs to be some escapist fantasy thrown in to keep us from being bored to death!

39. Daoud - March 16, 2010

Well, shouldn’t they already be building the first major capital ships during Caprica’s time? Wouldn’t there be exploration of nearby systems underway?

We know they had well-developed colonies beyond the 12… Troy (in nuBSG), Orion, Carillon (in ole BSG)…

I’m not saying load up Buck and Wilma in the Searcher… but something similar would fit in during the Caprica time period. Just visiting the other 11 colonies would provide fodder for at least 11 episodes!!

Heck, it could be the stories of a moving company, and called “Colonial Movers”. Kidding. But a ship-based exploration would allow for Vipers, and smaller ships, and all the other things we know they should already have in development.

Caprica can continue its themes… and a bright exploration show (since we have no aliens, yes, we have no aliens) would be challenging… but doable.

40. Chain of Command - March 16, 2010

MILK THAT COW!! MILK IT!!! MILK IT!!!!!!!

Here we go again.

41. Viper Viper Raider - March 16, 2010

I am willing to wager that The Powers That Be are positioning a new BSG in order to kill Bryan Singer’s movie effort. The TV show continues to bring in revenues (DVD sales) and remains a strong Syfy brand, given the current Caprica spin-off series. Another new BSG series will only solidify that further.

While it’s one company who owns BSG, it’s other divisions within the same company that own different aspects of the property. Some want to strike while the iron is hot. That means more BSG on TV.

You heard it here first.

42. ryanhuyton - March 16, 2010

CBS isn’t going to put another Star Trek show on the air just because Sy-Fy is considering another Battlestar Galactica show. CBS knows that a new Trek series would cost a lot more than a BSG spinoff would. Plus, the ratings that would be required would have to reach an average of at least 10 million viewers per week. Sci-fi shows don’t get those numbers anymore. And advertisers are becoming more choosy about what spots they pay for. Sci-fi is a hard sell on major networks, where reality shows, sports, sitcoms and crime shows rule the roost.

Shows like “Law & Order” and “CSI” can air multiple shows because they don’t rely on a “fan base” that Star Trek and other sci-fi shows need to survive. With “Law & Order” and “CSI” their ratings come from audiences who don’t neccessarily watch every single episode. These shows are much more accessible to a wider demographic because they don’t rely on canon. The concepts of these shows are much easier to grasp, plus they have the ability to attract big name guest stars. Advertisers can also place products in these shows as well. It can’t be done with Star Trek.

Having said that, I do think CBS is smart enough to not rule out creating a new show. I just think they will wait til the sequel comes out and then they will judge whether or not it is feasible to create a new spinoff when they look at the box office numbers.

43. CmdrR - March 16, 2010

Go for it. What’s the worst that can happen? Considering the alternative seems to be Syfy’s ‘CGI Dino-Snakeheaded Shark Theatre’ starring C. Thomas Howell and Luke Perry, at least a Moore-penned series holds potential. Can’t say I’m hooked on Caprica. I’d kinda like to see it rounded-out early. But, I certainly would check out a new space-based BSG installment.

44. NotTimothyGeithner - March 16, 2010

#7,

I vaguely remember this, but I thought, snark aside, that the original pitch for Battlestar Galactica grew out of creative differences over the creation of Voyager.

When Moore was DS9, they were telling him about this gritty show of a lost ship, basically running from unending enemies trying to find a home on the other side of the galaxy with a tossed together crew.

Then we got Voyager. Moore just took the original pitch for Voyager and adapted it to Battlestar Galactica. Thats what I thought I read at some point, but maybe it was just conjecture.

45. T'Cal - March 16, 2010

42. ryanhuyton – March 16, 2010

CBS isn’t going to put another Star Trek show on the air just because Sy-Fy is considering another Battlestar Galactica show. CBS knows that a new Trek series would cost a lot more than a BSG spinoff would.

Why would it have to cost more?

I have to say, I held off on BSG for some time until this year when my son got the entire series on DVD for Christmas and then talked me and my wife into watching it. We’ll be finished with season 4.5 in a couple of days. This is one phenomenal show – the writing, acting, directing, look, feel, etc. are all top notch! It has scratched my sci-fi itch, which has gone unsatisfied since ENT went off the air. BSG broke new ground for me in that it didn’t play it safe with its main characters or the story. I’m thoroughly impressed and rate it among my top three favorite sci-fi series along with TNG and DS9. And, it’s up there in my top 5 shows along with Dexter and Six Feet Under.

BTW, I’ve never watched an entire series on DVD without having seen it on TV first. What a cool way to see a series!

46. Pamela - March 16, 2010

#38–AMEN, Chunga Wunga!

#38 and #43 (CmdrR)–I am in complete agreement with your comments about the proposed Battlestar spinoff TV series.

47. ryanhuyton - March 16, 2010

#46

The higher costs would come from more complex make-up, more use of CGI, more elaborate sets, etc. Not to suggest that “Caprica” is cheap to produce (I’m sure it isn’t), but clearly a new Star Trek show would rely on make-up, CGI and special effects, and more elaborate sets, costumes and props. TOS and TNG were both highly expensive to produce during their years on the air. And so were the other shows.

48. ryanhuyton - March 16, 2010

oops, that was meant for #45

49. Peter N - March 16, 2010

I second the idea of #15 – going even further back to Kobol would create opportunities to show how all of this has happened before for the first time! With conflict and exodus there are plenty of possibilities for good old fashioned space opera peppered with social commentary à la RDM. Caprica should transition into/end with the first Cylon War, but that would take many years and too many seasons unless it is crowbarred in like the ENT finale (which should have gotten three more years). Maybe there will be two more series in RDM’s BSG universe?

And I like Caprica, even as more and more storylines get spun out. I have a feeling that the payoff will be worth paying attention to the show.

50. sean - March 16, 2010

FOR FRAK’S SAKE LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON’T DESTROY BSG’S LEGACY!!!!!!!!!!

BSG was so great because every episode didn’t bloat the franchise or make for some fluffy bs story, it had a clear arc and what made each episode so great was you knew you were getting closer to the climax of the story, not endless v-world meandering and random tagental sibling lamenting emotional back stories. there was no robin hood or any other back lot extra studio set driven star trek tos and tng bs stories

beginning with The Plan and continuing with Caprica it’s become clear BSG should be left alone…..its done….not in terms of story, but in what it can be and was…..its my favorite sci fi show ever, and thats saying alot de-throaning ST TNG…..i gave up sci fi for 16 yrs cause of all the BS stargates, treks and other horrible cable shows and it took a leap of faith to try out BSG…..i dont want the themes, characters, and mythos beaten to the ground, so watered down, exploited and turned into a series of indy 5s or star wars prequels -esque incarnations where i’m sickened of the thought of being a fan of it….did we learn nothing from all the post st tng incarnations….when a franchise goes to the well too many times it looses its way, becomes pathetic and formulaic….i told myself i’d give caprica 1 season outta respect to BSG and RDM and DE but its a real chore every wk….i end up throwing it up on hulu as i fall asleep and just listen to the audio for any BSG nuggets they might throw at us.

BSG needs to be remembered for just those 4 season and go out on a high note…..the plan and caprica and a potential 3rd series threatens its legacy….

the only story i’d like to see is the final 5’s journey from earth, creation of the 8 skinjobs, betrayal by cavil and their placement in the 12 colonies….i felt that back story deserved more than 5 mins by anders and was what i thought the plan might be half about, instead of that deleted scenes quasi movie…..

i know RDM sometimes cruises these sites……so RDM if you’re reading…you created the sopranos of sci-fi….i was a viewer you were talking about, someone who since my tweens didnt like sci-fi but loved what this show was….don’t turn a great thing into something like all the rocky sequels…..something we loved that we become ashamed of by its association to its bastard children

51. VOODOO - March 16, 2010

I would welcome a third version of the BSG universe, but I guess the question that comes to mind is why didn’t SYFY just keep the original BSG on for a couple more seasons?

In my humble opinion Ron Moore’s BSG is arguably the best program of any genre ever made. While not quite on the same level of Moore’s BSG I am really enjoying Caprica thus far.

P.S. Isn’t Bryan Singer also making a film based on the original 1970’s BSG?

52. anthony - March 16, 2010

Kobol is a good idea or how about the first earth?
you know the one where the final 5 came from.

53. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - March 16, 2010

I think the new BSGverse could do with one more totally space-based show. I love BSG-reimagined and Caprica is turning out to be a truly excellent series (I hope it goes to at least 2-3 seasons). I think the territory of the First Cylon War is definitely fertile ground for a new series. I doubt that Caprica will delve too far into it — probably will lead right up to it, but no further.

54. MaggieWagg - March 16, 2010

It would be interesting to see what is going on in space concurrently with Caprica. There is certainly a lot of trade between multiple colonies/planets and maybe battlestars already exist.

So far, we are only seeing the Capricans and the Taurons. Twelve colonies could provide plenty of cultures, intrigue, and alliances. I can see battlestars defending traders from pirates, the politics of an embargo against one planet for whatever reason, and interdependence between the colonies due to limited resources. You could have a sort of babylon 5 universe, only with all humans and a Battlestar captain forced to follow the whims of the politicians.

Plenty of room for space battles, without the bumpy-headed alien of the week. And crossover episodes with Caprica would be possible

55. Jim Cude - March 16, 2010

Caprica is like watching paint on another planet dry. Ready to get back into spaceships and mix it up…

56. Dom - March 17, 2010

They’re not necessarily talking about a TV show. It could be some TV movies or a miniseries. I love the way Caprica’s expanding the show’s background. I’m wondering if the reason for the Cylon war is that Zoe’s program gets used to resurrect millions of dead people in Cylon bodies. It’s also fascinating to see how the holoband might relate to Baltar’s and Laura Roslin’s visions.

No Interest in Bryan Singer’s Larson-ised take. Old BSG is done and has been surpassed. It’ll be that year’s Battlefield Earth! Hopefully it’ll never happen!

57. Capt. of the USS Anduril - March 17, 2010

Screw Caprica and Nu-BSG. Soap Opera =/= Space Opera. “OMG, the Cylons look like us now! Are you a Cylon? Is she a Cylon? Was that guy that Starbuck slept with a Cylon? Is the cancer-ridden President a Cylon? OMFG, what if I’m a Cylon?!” Crap, absolute crap. Almost as bad as the “Is that Klingon a Founder” crap that they pulled on DS9.

58. PropperTrekkieUk - March 17, 2010

New BSG? Yes please! More space, little less-grit, a lot less lame filler episodes…’oh no we have run out of water oh no’

But yea, First Cylon War, or a patrol based anti-piracy thing maybe?

59. thebiggfrogg - March 17, 2010

17. I like the reasoning! “that and it sucked.”

Boy, did it ever.

BSG is probably my all time favorite. I am really liking Caprica. Another series would be great, BUT…

I worry that it could get watered down with each reiteration (though I have faith in Ron Moore and crew to keep mixing it up to avoid formulaic drek).

One of my all time favorite comedies is the British version of The Office (The American show, what I’ve seen of it, doesn’t hold a tiny candle to the original). Ricky Gervais, the creator and star had the good sense to kill it after three seasons despite it being one of the most popular shows ever in the UK (plus the smart b*st*ard, maintained his artistic integrity and sold the foreign rights to the show to a half a dozen or so countries–having his cake and eating it too). I thought Moore was smart to end BSG at season 4 though I would have loved more. Dragging it on might have made the quality suffer and make a degeneration into formula much more likely. I worry a bit about this if they go to multiple shows. That said, if they can keep up the good work I’d love to see more.

57. Are you kidding me? The ‘lame filler’ was the what made it a true drama. It gave the sense of a ship truly isolated and needing to survive. That was what was lame about Voyager. Oh we have to conserve resources as we are lightyears from home, but we will waste energy on the holosuites. Neelix cooking in the kitchen was as ‘gritty’ as survival mode got. The water episode was not only dramatic because of Boomers struggle as a sleeper agent, but it also gave you a sense how fragile and perilous their situation was.

I remember an Enterprise where they were all stuck in a small section of the ship that was shielded from radiation. It was a cool dramatic idea about what that might be like. But instead they went for “excitement” and, of course, while they were hidden away aliens were trying to take over the ship. Mega yawn. How many times have we seen that.

Sounds like I’m dissing Trek here and I guess I am to a degree. I am a huge, long-time Trek fan, but too often as the series went forward they fell into the easy, formulaic way into drama.

60. DD - March 17, 2010

I’d like them to do a series of the first Cylon war, charting the voyages of the new Battlestar Galactica when she was first comissioned. The series could then deal with the effects of war on the population and on space exploration during a conflict. For example, exploring space risking Cylon attack that could happen at any time or dealing with how the population cope with seeing the injured come home. Here you could have a mix of lasors and the ethical issues which BSG series has been so good at.

61. Dom - March 17, 2010

The Cylon War would be a logical place to tell new stories. It could feature characters from Caprica and BSG and elaborate on aspects of both!

57. PropperTrekkieUk: ‘New BSG? Yes please! More space, little less-grit, a lot less lame filler episodes…’oh no we have run out of water oh no’’

I’m surprised you picked on that episode. Stargate: Universe managed to make such a plotline dull, but BSG’s was really gripping!

58. thebiggfrogg: No, you’re not dissing Trek, but the ‘safe’ aspect of the Berman 24th Century Treks is what put a lot of people off. Give me the wild, untamed frontier of the original Treks, any day!

62. thebiggfrogg - March 17, 2010

13. I agree. Trek is TV. The movies fall into the tired big, bad villain formula (though at its worst Trek TV did this too–with the TNG Borg it was okay, but the further reiterations got tedious fast). But the best Trek shows were good sci fi, not just villain wants to destroy earth/heroes destroy villain. (By Nemesis I was so sick and tired of Picard going toe to toe, Rambo-style with the villain that it practically put me to sleep).

63. thebiggfrogg - March 17, 2010

60. I am with you there on the wild, wooly frontier aspect. Though I don’t mind Picard’s more thoughtful approach. There were times that the Enterprise D and Deep Space Nine looked like shops at a mall or a food court or a corporate office block. DS9 was particularly egregious in that regard. O’Brien is complaining about the “poor conditions” on DS9 and by all indications it looked like a luxury resort. Babylon 5 (one of my other all time favorites) did the decrepit, gritty side of the space station much, much better.

64. thebiggfrogg - March 17, 2010

Actually the two Adama pics are amusing. The Lorne Greene pic looks like he is about to have a cardiac arrest. And the Edward James Olmos pic looks like he is wondering who just passed gas.

65. Baltar's concubine - March 17, 2010

I would love to see a limited series based on the Final Five!!! And they’re exodus from Earth prime; their expulsion from Kobol; their influence on the armistice. Lots of stories and adventure there IMO

66. artjava - March 17, 2010

I think Ron Moore developing a new series for SyFy is a good thing. How about picking up the story exactly where BSG left it – present day Earth? Kobol, is a good idea. The first Cylon war may be a good idea, but only to continue the story after Caprica. But, it’s not too early for SyFy and Ron Moore to be developing a new BSG series, because it takes years from the first talks to a series’ first episode airing. If I remember correctly, SyFy first spoke with Ron Moore about Caprica during production of season 2 of BSG.

67. vorta23492392932939230 - March 17, 2010

Yes, KOBOL! They could even have Ellen, Sol, Starbuck (maybe?), Chief, Anders, etc — the final five and show how they grew to be what they are on the 13th colony, or even much earlier before the ‘cylons’ left Kobol and the 12 tribes of man left for the colonies… THIS story I want to see!!

68. thebiggfrogg - March 17, 2010

I’m with the Kobol group, probably the strongest and coolest idea. The first Cylon war would be interesting, but might step on Caprica’s toes depending on how long it takes to develop. Plus it might just be a bit too close to BSG (what I don’t want to see in a new BSG show is “been there, done that”–which is why I like Caprica it is adding to the story of the universe, but it ain’t recycling and repeating.) Okay, time for bed and work.

69. doug_skywalker - March 17, 2010

@65. artjava:

I was just going to suggest the exact same thing.

a BSG sequal series set ‘today’ or ‘in the not too distant future’. it could start with archeologists finding remnants of the Fleet civilians, Helo and Athena’s dogtags with Hera’s bones, written language on a cave wall along with a depiction of the Fleet’s struggle with the Cylons, the Exodus from the Colonies, etc.

and then the Basestar shows up with the centurions,

70. Dom - March 17, 2010

68. doug_skywalker

Even better, the centurions will have developed humanoid Cylons again (one of my theories about the Cylon God and His angels is that perhaps they are earlier variant humans and Cylons from different cycles of time) and they’ll be on the run from something else!

71. P Technobabble - March 17, 2010

It kinda looks like the only people who didn’t get to go on to have even greater careers were the original Star Trek folks (except for Shatner and Nimoy).
Ron Moore’s version of BSG contained some of the best tv sci-fi ever, pretty far removed from the original BSG (which was ok, but a bit campy).
Another really talented guy who deserves high praise for his work with Star Trek, BSG and more.

72. Daoud - March 17, 2010

Hmmm, the journeys of the Final Five… would make an interesting mini-series, but I doubt a series.

A DVD-type movie of a “last time in the saddle” featuring the post-BSG Earth… some reason for Eddie Olmos’ Admiral Adama to lead one “last mission” of sorts… which could bring in any number of others. Particularly, it could involve the “angels” Baltar and Six. I’d like to see them “whisk away” (transporter type method?) Starbuck just a half moment before her Viper was destroyed. They mindwipe her and at the same time plant a few extra memories in her head, and thus send her back on the faux Viper. Then, once reaching Earth… they “whisk” her away again, take her back in time, and put her back in the Viper just before it’s destroyed…. thus explaining her dead body and the dogtags. Time travel. And the loop is closed.

But, still, I’d just be glad to watch “Colonial Movers”. Expand the era of the 12 colonies before the first Cylon War. Clearly, this is quite an interstellar “federation” of human-populated worlds beyond just the prime 12.

73. AC - March 17, 2010

Ugh! Just bury this steaming pile of fail. In 10 years, hire a **COMPETENT** group of writers and try again.

74. Desstruxion - March 17, 2010

Yes take us back to the “verse” somebody. So many stories about the Firefly universe still need to be told.

75. damian - March 17, 2010

#36–Enterprise was on UPN because Paramount wanted it on UPN. That was their network. It was Paramount who wanted a lot of what we got in the 90’s. Berman wanted to hold off on Voyager and let DS9 stand on its own, but Paramount wanted a flagship show for it’s new network and their attitude to Berman was basically you do it or we will find someone else who will. Whatever his faults, I do believe Berman loved Star Trek and believed he was carrying out Roddenberry’s vision. By some comments, you would think Berman was sent by Satan to destroy Star Trek by any means possible. He’s a producer. Yes, he wants his shows to make money, but like any creator, I’m sure he wanted it to be liked. And like I did. DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise were all good shows, IMHO.

76. philpot - March 17, 2010

#56 – “No Interest in Bryan Singer’s Larson-ised take. Old BSG is done and has been surpassed. It’ll be that year’s Battlefield Earth! Hopefully it’ll never happen!”

nah. bring me a big budget Battlestar movie directed by Singer over a BSG tv show any day of the week thanks…and when i say big i mean BIG!…Huge space battles and amazing FX that make the SW prequels look like video games (only Ep III had some anyway), full on Chariot of the Gods/Lost Planet of the Gods style mystic, Big(ish) stars, cameo from the REAL Starbuck Dirk (maybe even playing Starbuck)…

theres never been one yet anyway. it must be only one of a few retro SF series thats never had the big screen treatment (off the top of my head – Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel, Outer Limits, dr who – sort of…i know there were the 2 non canon 1960s films)

although im abit concerned it might be in jeapody now : (

77. Rottweiler - March 17, 2010

Dead horse..keep on beating it.

78. Will - March 17, 2010

Kobol. And the Ships of Light, to shed some light (no pun) on what the heck happened to Kara Thrace. (Even if the show never actually guest stars Katee Sackhoff, they could indirectly explain it.)

Maybe have someone other than Ron Moore doing the writing. His technique of just throwing random imagery on the wall and seeing what sticks (hoping some of it might actually have metaphorical meaning) is too sloppy.

79. Dom - March 17, 2010

76. philpot

Yeah, but name me any of those retro TV shows beyond Star Trek that have ever had the legs to survive on the big screen! Trek’s a one-off really.

Mission: Impossible has managed three films in 15 years and they’ve had precious little to do with the original series, The Addams Family managed two movies before returning to TV, two Doctor Who Dalek serials were turned into movies in the 1960s and are a bit of a joke, albeit superior to anything Russell T Davies ever wrote! Jim Henson’s Muppets have made six films, unrelated to one another, in 30 years.

TV shows simply don’t tend to generate successful movie franchises. And right now, Universal has a critically-acclaimed TV/DVD/Blu-ray franchise in BSG/Caprica. And given SyFylis’ reputation for making trashy monster movies, the current incarnation of the Galactica saga carries a good deal of kudos.

The original Star Trek had the advantage that its stories could stand alone, it had strong characters and came back at exactly the right time with the original cast. It’s longevity as a film franchise is owed in part to Robert Wise making the first film outlandishly different from any previous Trek, with only the presence of the original cast to anchor it, then Nicholas Meyer’s decision to embrace the aging of the cast in the sequel an oppose them with a phenomenal bad guy!

Galactica demands a TV series because of its serialised nature. The same thing actually applies to TNG: it was a TV show through and through and didn’t belong in the cinema. More importantly, there’s nothing wrong with that!

With all the marvellous FX that can be created in HD for TV shows now, it’s about time people stopped seeing TV shows moving on to the cinema as a ‘promotion!’ Actually, most of them are fish out of water, as they have to sell their souls to go to the big screen!

Even worse are obnoxious cameos by the original stars, usually playing a different character confronting the actor who now plays their role: way to take the audience out of the film for the sake of a smug in-joke!! Say what you like about Michael Mann’s Miami Vice, but he didn’t inflict Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas on us heavies working for Jose Yero!

Singer has really fizzled out as a major director – his two X-Men films are overrated and the likes of Valkyrie generated shrugs, while Superman Returns – on spite of being likeable enough – was fluffy enough to be swiftly forgotten. Besides he has Jack the Giant Killer and the Excalibur remake on his slate as well.

It’s well known that his and DeSanto’s version of the Galactica TV show was pulled was because the executives had no faith in it, hence Ron Moore created the best and most important science fiction TV show since the original Star Trek.

A Galactica reboot feature film right now would only be another TV pilot writ large (a failing of many superhero films!) and would alienate fans of the new Galactica on one hand and probably fans of the original too.

A return to the cheesy trashiness of the 1970s TV show would be seen as an enormous sell-out. Indeed, Ron Moore’s version ***feels*** a lot more like the Glen A Larson/Robert Thurston novels that were written at the time of the original show’s release. Read those novels away from any knowledge of either version of the show and it’s quickly clear that the modern version is a superior rendition of the concept!

Would a revamp get new fans? Probably not. Critics would immediately compare it unfavourably with Ron Moore’s version and the fact that Universal-owned SyFylis are contemplating a further spin-off says that the movie must be some way off!

80. Trekboi - March 17, 2010

Big Trek box office is good- but Star trek was best as a series & the films limit the storytelling to big eppic action drama’s ect ect
but u cant stray from Kirk & spock- next gen only happened because the original crew was too expensive to do a new series- same problem with trek on tv- cant use the movie cast- setting unless they do a post trilogy tv series with the same cast setting but i doubt it…

at least a kids show to strengthen the fanbase & merchandise- it didnt hurt the dark knight

Battlestar is being milked like trek & will run dry too- just make something new instead of canabalising the original show down to something unrecognizable corpse…

81. Trekboi - March 17, 2010

im assuming any new series will be in the JJ-verse- pity- i wish they had done the “Sulu” series based in the movie era…

82. Colorado_Gamer - March 18, 2010

SyFy… How about you spend some money on Joss Whedon and have him do something in the Firefly Universe. :)

83. OLLEY OLLEY OLLEY - March 18, 2010

No more Star Trek.on TV please.
The scars inflicted by Rick Berman have yet to heal.

84. bobh - March 19, 2010

A good area to explore is the exoduses from Cobol and how the 13 tribes founded the Colonies. Another would be the earlier Cylon war on Earth prime. There’s lot potential material in the BSG world, we just need to step away from the planet Caprica.

85. P Technobabble - March 19, 2010

I honestly think Star Trek needs a very long break from tv, in spite of my love for it. As I see it, the problem is coming up with new ideas, things we have never seen before. If you have a starship that visits one planet after another, week after week, fighting off one villain after another, or one obstacle after another, how long does it take for that to become repetitive and tedious? I think this is one of the problems with TOS,TNG, VOY and ENT as weekly series, because the “starship adventure” model has its limitations. I thought DS9 was a great departure (and a great show), but that program did not really need “Star Trek” attached to its name. But, again, after more than 700 episodes of TOS through ENT ?, how easy or difficult would it be to embark on another 7 year run of this familiar premise? I think Star Trek is better suited for the big screen, however, BECAUSE OF the time between films. The weekly grind of television, the very nature of Trek-ian story structure, and the knowledge that our heroes will always get out of trouble by the end credits, tends to make me go “ho- hum”… just my opinion, of course.

86. VOODOO - March 19, 2010

85. P Technobabble

I agree. The fact that there was simply too much Star Trek was one of the major reasons why the tv franchise ended on such a sour note. I say give the tv series at least a decade (we are already five years in) long break.

Another thing to note is that the film franchise is now a big budget blockbuster type series. Would it be cheapening the brand if you were to bring it back to the small screen?

A fair question to ask is would people care about a new ST series if Kirk and Spock weren’t involved in the new tv series? A big part of the reason the recent movie was a blockbuster was because it was about the characters people wanted to see. Would all new characters excite the mainstream fanbase or would it be more of the lack of interest that Enterprise received?

All this said I would be surprised if we don’t start to hear rumblings of a new Star Trek series after the release of the next film… There is too much money being left on the sidelines.

87. P Technobabble - March 19, 2010

86. Voodoo

“…Another thing to note is that the film franchise is now a big budget blockbuster type series. Would it be cheapening the brand if you were to bring it back to the small screen?”

A fair question, but I don’t really know. While there have been a few breakthroughs with sci-fi on tv (BSG, for one), many other sci-fi series have come and gone pretty quickly (The Sarah Conner Chronicles, for example). Yes, Star Trek certainly has a loyal fan base, but that fan base couldn’t save ENT.

“…Would all new characters excite the mainstream fanbase or would it be more of the lack of interest that Enterprise received?”

Yes, another fair question, indeed. I don’t know how much of ENT’s demise was based on lack of interest in the characters, or Star Trek burn-out, in general. It would be interesting to hear Ron Moore’s or Brannon Braga’s feelings about that, since they were involved with Star Trek for such a long time. Their insights could be very helpful in terms of a new Trek on tv, if that were to happen. I understand there were some severe differences between Moore and Braga, but I’m sure their love of Star Trek hasn’t changed, and I doubt they’d want to see any new Treks follow the same spiral as previous Trek series.

“…All this said I would be surprised if we don’t start to hear rumblings of a new Star Trek series after the release of the next film…”

This is Hollywood mentality, right? If it was a hit once, it can be a hit again… But ENT’s demise is a good indication that you can’t just throw Star Trek on tv and be guaranteed a hit. There might be some suggestions about putting Trek on tv again, but I’m not sure how many producers would jump up and down at the opportunity. I agree with you, as far as Trek taking a good, long break. Perhaps after a couple more Trek films — to see where the Supreme Court takes it — there will be some new slant on it, some new way to look at it, which would justify another go-’round. Meanwhile, I’m repeatedly watching all of my Trek episodes and movies on dvd, and having the time of my life. That is what they’re there for! ;-)

88. Anti-tek 2010 - March 20, 2010

…-Maybe a spin-off to …’ENTERPRISE’ …?!?….

89. Thasc - March 20, 2010

I’d be more than happy to see this fourth show be a tale from the First Cylon War. I get the impression that it’ll be nigh-on impossible to show the war in all its bloody glory with the current (marvelous) cast of billionaire industrialists, lawyers, and teenagers, so making a new show to showcase the War makes sense.

90. Drij - March 20, 2010

Battlestar Galactica sucks.

91. ryanhuyton - March 20, 2010

#90 Then why did you even bother posting?

92. Tim Smoke - March 21, 2010

I do little new Battlestar Galactia tv show but I like old Battlestar Galactica tv show with could be have jump drive and new high tech computer and other devices designs. I hope that new tv show at the part of old and new BSG.
I am fan of Star Trek and Star Wars and Stargate so long. Some good fan of Babylon 5 and BSG.
I would like see new Star Trek as Enterprise – J on the new tv show as spin-off soon.

93. Michael - March 26, 2010

BSG is my all time favorite sci fi series, but I’m not sure the bsg-verse has another story I want to see. I want to see a series where the conclusion is NOT already written. Please no first Cylon war.

If RDM wants to develop a new show, I humbly suggest that he should be true to his storytelling mode, make the show open ended and allow it to develop organically. My and many of my friends biggest problem with BSG was that as a series it was organic but that in the end it forced the characters to act in unrealistic ways in order to arrive at it’s preordained destination.

Couldn’t we try and apply that BSG’s same sense of realism throughout a whole story, take out all the religious mumbo jumbo, explore an open, grounded universe with all the complexity of our own and allow it to grow and develop it’s own mythos?

Please?

(PS Caprica is very good I think.)

94. Michael - March 26, 2010

And sorry to post again, but I imagine that RDM would never, ever do a story about Kobol. Right now it’s a mysterious part of the universe, like the Cylons in episode 33. It would be nearly impossible to do justice to the idea of god’s and human’s living together, but it’s a great abstract concept to allude to. Like the backstory of the Cylon’s, whatever he fills in there isn’t going to be as interesting (to us) as the things we imagine. IMHO.

95. Monkeyfalls Mt - April 24, 2010

I was hoping for a series where a futuristic earth has been watching and waiting to see what the BSG crew would do after they settle on “earth”. Later they would come pick up those humans who wanted to go to the real futuristic earth. They will not take any Cylons to the real earth because they have their own plan and won’t risk Cylons getting in the way.They had been looking for the myth of the twelve colonies and when they find Galacticans on the earth like planet they new they’d found the way. They now have the path back to the twelve colonies. The human plan?Take back the twelve colonies from the Cylons = Action,adventure,deceptions etc. All the things that made the remake of BSG…intriguing.

96. m - May 31, 2010

Yes- Kobol Kobol Kobol!!

97. ROBB - December 30, 2010

its very strange how it all works.. the powers that be will run rubbish like ghost hunters caprica and warehouse 13 all really boring with nothing really to offer but will scrap the good shows like firefly not even 1 full season..
were lucky with farscape which ran many episodes – but still finished before it should of ..
what’s the point of a sci fi channel that doesnt show real sci fi i dont think i can handle another star trek – too prim n proper .. can we please have a down to earth real world sci fi with dirt and real issues for the people out on the frontier come on folks
on a positive note ive just started watching eureka find this a good program well done to whoever concerned

98. ROBB - January 1, 2011

on thinking a little more on this subject , i believe this is a good time to come up with something fresh on sci fi sorry .. sy fy- pronounced -SCI-FI- :)
we have many different Univere’s created already from star trek, star wars farscape, baylon5, firefly, aliens,ANDROMEDA etc most of these sci fi’s are set far in the future’s of possible different dimensions\ offset ‘s etc i would like to see something more to home something maybe more people can relate to
ideas
1. sanctuary – mobile space unit possibly giant asteroid transformed into a space journey vehicle travelling through space with a Glass dome +plant life + people –
OBJECT -seeking out new planets to terra-form + mine + plunder
as space travel takes so long in the early days its a generational travel ship idea ..
pluses this could be set in our own universe and learn people about what is out there close to ourselves
ill post another idea soon

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