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William Shatner Reveals More Details On “Captains” Documentary + Talks Star Trek V July 19, 2010

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shat-london10Star Trek’s original Kirk attended the London Comic Con over the weekend and in between autograph signings yesterday he did a Q&A to a group of around 500 enthusiastic fans. His talked included some interesting details on his new "The Captain" documentary as well as some discussion of Star Trek V. Details below.

 

Shatner talks "Captains" doc and Star Trek V at London Comic Con

Con Report submitted by Mike Thompson

Topics for William Shatner’s London Comic Con Q&A ranged from his current projects, to Boston Legal to The Twilight Zone, and of course Star Trek. Early on Shatner spoke about his new "The Captains" documentary which he is directing and has him sitting down doing interviews with each of Star Trek’s captains. Shatner confirmed that he just recently shot the interviews with Sir Patrick Stewart and with Avery Brooks (which completes the set of Star Trek captains as he had previously done his interviews with Scott Bakula and Kate Mulgrew).

Shatner described Brooks as “the most intelligent captain”, describing his visit to Brooks’ home and how he was surprised to learn that Avery is a Jazz musician and teacher. Because of this, Shatner asked Brooks if he would provide background piano jazz music for documentary and Brooks agreed.

A fan asked if Leonard Nimoy would be involved in the "Captains" documentary and after joking "Leonard? There is no money in it?", Shatner said he hoped to do something with Leonard at the Las Vegas Star Trek convention in August.

When asked who is favorite captain was, he said they were all "wonderful" and then said that Patrick Stewart was "the classiest", Avery Brooks (in addition to being the "most intelligent") was "kind of strange", but then joked that since Kate Mulgrew was the only woman, she was his favorite.


William Shatner at London Comic Con 2010 (Elaine F11 TwitPic)

The subject of Shatner’s Star Trek directing of Star Trek V: The Final Frontier came up as well. A fan asked if Star Trek V was his favorite Trek movie. Shatner actually laughed and admitted it "wasn’t too good" which he attributed to outside pressure and how he was forced to compromise his original story. He also talked about how the ending didn’t work because the "rock monsters" got cut to do budget, noting that he didn’t handle the budget well and the whole experience was a "difficult time" for him personally.

Unfortunately the topics of Free Enterprise 2 and the new JJ Abrams Star Trek movie didn’t com up but there was a fun moment when a fan asked him to do his famous Star Trek II "KHAAAAAN!" yell. Shatner laughed and asked "Oh, no – can’t I do a ‘Denny Crane’?", after which he did the softest, gentlest, "Khaaaaaaaaan… where are you, Khaaan?"


William Shatner at London Comic Con 2010 (Elaine F11 TwitPic)

 

 

POLL: Should “Captains” doc include Pine?

So Shatner has revealed that his new “The Captains” documentary will include talks with Star Trek’s TV captains Patrick Stewart (TNG), Avery Brooks (DS9), Kate Mulgrew (Voyager) and Scott Bakula (Enterprise). And apparently he is going to also include Leonard Nimoy, who was a captain in the Star Trek movies. But what about Star Trek’s newest captain, Chris Pine? Is this doc incomplete without the new Captain Kirk being interviewed by the original Captain Kirk?

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Comments

1. Kent Butabi - July 19, 2010

TFF remastered, please!!!!

2. Jordan from UGO - July 19, 2010

Will Shat ever sit down & watch an episode of TNG, DS9, VOY or ENT now that he’s directing a film about these Captains? I have a hunch he’ll find a way out of it. . . .

3. Mathias - July 19, 2010

Yay for choosing Kate (even if it’s a joke)! :-D

4. KJ - July 19, 2010

Did he interview Chris Pine, too?

5. Trip327 - July 19, 2010

I think he should have interviewed Chris Pine as well. Would be interesting to see the two of them sitting down and chatting about Shatner’s Kirk compared to Pine’s Kirk.

6. Ciarán - July 19, 2010

Yeah, I think it would’ve been very interesting if he interviewed Chris Pine. In fact, he really SHOULD!

7. OfficialSpudUk (Formally known as PropperTrekkieUk) - July 19, 2010

He should interview Chris, and Nimoy I suppose, maybe even Sulu????

8. CmdrR - July 19, 2010

If Shat’s molecules move any more, there’ll be two of him.

9. Decker1017 - July 19, 2010

#4

As much as I enjoyed the Star Trek 2009 movie & Chris Pine’s performance, there is no way I would consider that movie cannon so why interview Pine? No offense to Pine at all. It was a great action flick I’ve seen 5 times at the movies, but to not stress the point that they are indeed in an alternate universe (again) as opposed to an “alternate reality” as mentioned in the movie doesn’t cut it for me. Also to boot he only commanded the enterprise the last half of the movie & officially 5 minutes before the ending credits. The only alternate universe I recognize is the infamous “Mirror universe” as recognized by TOS, DS9 & ENT. I think the Shat recognizes this as well & I’m in full agreement with him. As far as I’m concerned all that was cannon in that movie was that Romulus exploded & Spock & some mining ship got sucked into a black hole. That’s all. Sorry.

10. Daniel - July 19, 2010

Agreed. The documentary is incomplete unless he interviews Pine.

11. captain_neill - July 19, 2010

Can’t wait to see what he will do Leonard at the Vegas con in two weeks.

Anyone else here going?

Can’t wait to see this documentary.

12. Roger - July 19, 2010

Why do people attack this man and make him sound like the worlds worst person? Clearly he is not. Nimoy is out because there is no money in it?!!! Figures. Nimoy is only interested in trek if it comes in a paycheck. How sad!

Chris Pine does NOT belong on this project. Not interested in seeing the pretty boy, more interested in seeing real “Trek”.

You just got an interview with the real Captain Kirk.

13. Roger - July 19, 2010

As for Star Trek V, let it go people. I can’t believe how people have made this an anchor around Shatners neck for over 20+ years. Let it go! Not ever Trek movie is going to be great. You get a few duds (INS, NEM, ST(2009) and STIII are not that great.

Whenever I see Shatner doing an interview there has to be one clown that brings up STV. It is amazing Shatner still does conventions etc with such hostility.

14. Buzz Cagney - July 19, 2010

Wasn’t Bill in the UK just a couple of weeks back to interview Sir Patrick? And here he is back again. Does he ever find time to sleep?
Amazing stamina he must have and it sounds like he was good value for the attending fans.

15. Decker1017 - July 19, 2010

#12

Well Said Roger!

16. 4600 II - July 19, 2010

There was nothing to say about “Free Enterprise II” because it’s not happening……

17. Anthony Pascale - July 19, 2010

Since people want to talk about it…i added poll on Chris Pine in CAPTAINS doc

18. SChaos1701 - July 19, 2010

12

The movie is real Trek. Get over yourself.

19. stef - July 19, 2010

I think he actually mentioned he’s trying to get Chris Pine for the Captain’s project as well if I understood correctly. Can somebody who was also there confirm that?

20. nuKirk - July 19, 2010

LOL i tried voting Yes on the poll and it keeps putting a popup saying ‘Please choose a valid poll answer’

21. Hat Rick - July 19, 2010

Shatner is the man.

22. Colonel West - July 19, 2010

No way Pine should be on that. Nothing against the guy and he did a good job but he’s been in one film and only worked for what? A few months on it and then some pr for the release? He’s not experienced much of Trek at all whereas the others all have varying years and decades for The Shat and Patrick Stewart of working on the shows and films along with cons, appearances and experiences of fan interactions and what the show means to so many that they totally get and appreciate that end of things.

If he does a few more films and experiences more of Trek, not just on the soundstage, fire away but after one film? Not for me. Out of the new cast I think Pegg, Quinto and Urban are the only ones who know how much it means. Thats not a dig on the new cast now mind, no doubt they will over time, but it’s way too soon after one film.

23. Startrekker - July 19, 2010

Off course he should interview Chris I don’t see any problem with that

24. John Pearse - July 19, 2010

@ 19: Yup, I was there too and he said he was going to interview Chris Pine, so case closed.

25. BenAvery - July 19, 2010

I’d LOVE to see Shatner and Pine sit down and talk. From what I’ve seen of Pine’s interviews, I think it would be a fascinating interview . . .

26. TK - July 19, 2010

#19 Yes, I was there too and he did say Chris Pine will be interviewed when he gets back to the states. I loved the talk!!!

27. Captain Dunsel - July 19, 2010

Love all the Captains, but Avery Brooks still one of my favorite. Great actor, great musician. Can’t wait for “The Captains” Documentary.

28. Canon Schmanon - July 19, 2010

The length of time Pine has spent as Kirk should have nothing to do with his qualifications for an interview. He’s a Trek captain after all, and that’s who Shatner is interviewing. It could be the most interesting interview of them all, since they both played the same character. Wanting him excluded is just petty.

29. Phobos - July 19, 2010

hmm, it could just be the photograph and/or the clothes he is wearing, but it seems to me Shatner has lost some weight.

I wonder if that means he is trying to shed a few pounds in expectation for a little role in the next movie.

30. NuFan - July 19, 2010

I don’t think Pine should be in it either, because I’m also a big, fat crybaby.

31. Brett Campbell - July 19, 2010

Sounds like Shatner has taken a pretty philosophic attitude about ST V. I still think it’s a better film than many people give it credit. It’s good that Shatner can keep a sense of humor about his losses as well as his successes.

32. Shatner_Fan_Prime - July 19, 2010

Hopefully Shatner does get Pine. Aside from a very brief hello at Shatner’s charity horse show last year, the two men have not been seen together. But remember, Shatner also did not know Patrick Stewart (aside from brief greetings) until after TNG ended! They’ve been friends ever since, and I suspect the same will be true of Shatner and Pine, once they actually sit down and talk.

33. Dalek - July 19, 2010

No objections to Pine being in it but Pine has only ever appeared in 2 hours of Star Trek, the rest have appeared in 80 hours, and four years work at the very least.

34. Jordan - July 19, 2010

I don’t think he should. His rank was captain for 5 minuets in the movie. Also, there is very little material available about the Prime Kirk, and Chris probably does not have a lot of experience being Kirk.

35. Anthony Pascale - July 19, 2010

Re: pine

I am trying to confirm if he is in doc. Hopefully have update soon

36. Casey4147 - July 19, 2010

Hey, if they let Robert Wise finish THE MOTION PICTURE maybe they should let Shatner finish THE FINAL FRONTIER. It can’t get worse, can it?

37. Shatner_Fan_Prime - July 19, 2010

It’s pretty much a guarantee that the interviews will be focused on the actors who played Captains, not the fictional Captains themselves. Therefore, Pine, who certainly has had his life changed by the experience of playing Captain Kirk, is just as eligible as the rest.

38. Casey4147 - July 19, 2010

…And would he do James Cawley, if given the chance? The Phase II/New Voyages Captain Kirk? I think he should – the man’s earned at least that.

39. nonymoose - July 19, 2010

It would be nice to have Bruce Greenwood. He did take on the role of ‘the first captain’ – sadly Jeffrey Hunter isn’t around to be interviewed…

He may only have been in the latest movie, and not had much screen time, but Bruce brought a nice gravitas and sense of authority to the role. You could really *feel* he was a good captain.

40. moauvian waoul - July 19, 2010

First I didn’t see any reason to interview Pine. We already had Captain Kirk represented. But after reading some posts here and thinking about it, I believe it would be interesting indeed, to compare their approaches and takes. Pine may give us some insight on his character and Shatner could possibly give him some and we could learn something about both. This is the last time I let any of you change my mind. But then again…

41. Hat Rick - July 19, 2010

Pine should be interviewed because he’s accorded the status of adult-age main character Trek captain — regardless of how long he’s on screen as such. The reason is that, from now on, it is the intention of the Trek franchise to treat him as the successor actor in the role of Captain Kirk. That’s CAPTAIN KIRK, and not just any captain. You can’t get any larger Trek captain than that. (Note that he plays the adult Captain Kirk, unlike the actor who played Kirk as a child, or, where there would be interviews with actor who played Trek first officers, actors who played Spock, for example, solely as an infant or child, who wouldn’t be included in such interviews.)

Dissing Pine, therefore, would in a way be dissing Kirk.

42. davidwebb - July 19, 2010

For all the complaints about the Final Frontier, it’s good to see that even Shatner knows the problems with it, and his direction. It’s just a shame Paramount have no interest in letting him make amends/a director’s cut with the film.

It’s a bigger shame that the fans won’t let go.

43. Hat Rick - July 19, 2010

I also want to praise Mr. Shatner for his insights about the various Trek captains, and particularly about Sisko.

I want to comment on this from the perspective of the actor. I’ve always felt that Avery Brooks’ portrayal of Captain Sisko was possibly the most nuanced of any, even though Brooks, like Shatner, can overact at times. Brooks “evolved” his character throughout the series effectively and believably. Compare, for example, the Captain Sisko of the first episode with the Sisko of “For the Uniform” and “In the Pale Moonlight.” Sisko is almost unrecognizable, even though he’s clearly the same character, because Brooks transformed his portrayal to correspond with the events that occurred to him.

In like manner, Bakula’s Archer also changed, although I think that for whatever reason, Archer changed too abruptly for my taste.

Part of the reason that Sisko appears to be the most intelligent captain, or at least one of the most, is that Brooks portrayed him so credibly.

I think that Shatner’s comments demonstrate that he, himself, is quite intelligent in understanding the characters in Trek, much to his credit.

44. Cali - July 19, 2010

# 22 Colonel West

Why does the “amount” of time he’s been working in Trek have any relevance to the fact that he *is* a Capt.? That’s Bill’s title “The Captains.” Just curious.

My 1st thought was “Wait a sec. Chris – and Bill – *are* Capt. Kirk! And while I LOVE Chris Pine and would love to see him in it – Isn’t that rather redundant??

BUT…

# 19 stef, # 24 John Pearse, & # 26 TK

WooHoo!! Thanks for that info. that Bill is indeed going to interview Chris! I too would LOVE to see an interview between the two. They both have a lot of similar characteristics!

I was a little disappointed in the clip where Chris walked up and met Bill for the 1st time. It almost seemed like Bill didn’t know who he was or something strange. But it was a short clip too so not the whole pic. there.

I’m just upset that it’s only being released in Canada. =( Any northern friends need a US pen pal? *gRiN* =D

Cheers! And Happy Trekking! =)

45. Pat D - July 19, 2010

Seriously, why can’t CBS-D spend a little money on Star Trek V to sell more DVDs and Blue-rays?

46. Anthony Thompson - July 19, 2010

He has a psychological block about ST09. He doesn’t want anyone else to be Kirk. That’s why he’s snubbed the film and Pine. He’s admitted before that he’s afraid of dying. ST09 represents the end of his portrayal of Kirk. That must hurt.

47. Corinthian7 - July 19, 2010

I’d love to see the Pine interview, the fact that he’s new to it all and that it is Shatner interviewing him makes it the most appealing to me. I’m also looking forward to the Brooks interview as well as I’ve rarely seen him talk about Star Trek.

48. Frederick - July 19, 2010

I think the reason Spock didn’t fight to correct the timeline after he arrived is because he recognized right away that it was not his own past, but the past of an alternate universe. So he stayed and tried to make sure it developed along as natural a course (and similar to his own) as it could after the incursion from his own future. Obviously the older Spock could not be the same Spock as the younger since things are happening differently as well. All indicators point to a completely different universe and not just an alternate timeline.

49. Captain Sulu - July 19, 2010

If going with movie captains and including Nimoy, then what about Takei?

50. Admiral Shatner - July 19, 2010

The real Kirk making the movie, why would we need Captain DressedasKirkforhaloween.

51. moauvian waoul - July 19, 2010

48. -to add: it seems,for whatever reason, our heroes were unable to correct the timeline this once. One could argue it adds some realism to the whole timeline jepordy, that they can’t always succeed. Anyway that’s what I’ve been thinking.
Wouldn’t mind some feedback from the rest of you on this. I’m sure there are plenty of better interpertations, so please… be gentle.

52. Luke Sutton ("The Doctor") - July 19, 2010

Star Trek 09 IS Star Trek. Get over it.

53. Canon Schmanon - July 19, 2010

Spock didn’t change the timeline because the script didn’t have him do so. The writers weren’t concerned with reestablishing canon because they’re creating their own. It isn’t necessary to rationalize within a fictional sense of logic. Old Star Trek has been replaced in this current timeline. Just like in the movie. And old Spock was there to hand off the responsibility to a new bunch of people. But Spock isn’t real. He only does what the writers have him do, and in this incarnation he wasn’t concerned with “correcting” the timeline, no matter what has happened in his past.

You can try and legitimize the movie in your own mind by ascribing all kinds of motives to Spock, but the fact is, this is a reborn movie (and maybe TV?) franchise, now under the control of a whole new group of people. I didn’t like everything they did, but I loved the product as a whole and am excited to see a NEW INTERPRETATION of these characters. This might mean that sometimes they won’t act like the original versions. Not sure why some people can’t accept that, but I can, and I was there back in the 60s to watch the show when it first aired.

Not sure what this has to do with Shatner, but I think he owes Chris Pine and interview. I think he needs to be big enough to show acceptance of the new guard, just as Leonard Nimoy has so graciously done. Nimoy has shown so much class I respect him more than ever. While I respect much about Bill, I really disdain the way he has treated the new film. He had himself killed off in Generations, so he can’t blame Abrams for not wanting to jump a bunch of stupid time paradox hurdles just to explain why Kirk was alive again. He was trying to tell a different story, and the resurrection of Kirk would have overshadowed the storyline.

This is nobody’s fault but Shatner’s. Generations is real, it happened, it’s an actual Star Trek movie and Shatner’s Kirk is dead.

54. John Trumbull - July 19, 2010

I want a YouTube clip of Shatner doing the gentle Khan yell RIGHT NOW.

55. moauvian waoul - July 19, 2010

53. “Spock didn’t change the timeline because the script didn’t have him do so.”- Well there is that.

“The writers weren’t concerned with reestablishing canon because they’re creating their own.” -Then they should have stuck to a reboot.

“It isn’t necessary to rationalize within a fictional sense of logic.” – No, it isn’t necessary.

56. Simon Hanson - July 19, 2010

Some people are just overly critical, Its like when new films are brought with all these great New SPecial Effects and the old people only want to watch the old black and white ones. People need to learn to like both the old ones and learn to embrace the new ones. Pine Is Kirk now and a captain and great one at that. Star Trek XI was a great film but people can’t look past the fact that its set in an alternative time line.

57. Greg2600 - July 19, 2010

Thankfully it seems like the constant JJ Trek questions are not brought with Shatner so much anymore.

58. Stan Winstone - July 19, 2010

Watch any ep of TOS and you’ll realize Pine is right on as the character of Kirk. He deserves to be represented. But then again with Shat it’s all about him…

59. Gorandius1256 - July 19, 2010

No to Pine. I think that since he wasn’t promoted to Captain until the very end of the film, he hasn’t had enough screen time as captain to warrant involvement. Bruce Greenwood on the other hand should definitely be in the doc.

60. Roger - July 19, 2010

There is no reason to see Pine. The video is about the Captains! This does not include him.

#18 And ST(2009) is not really trek. Get over yourself! Shatner is the man and Pine could never achieve the status that Shatner has.

61. Roger - July 19, 2010

Quote:This is nobody’s fault but Shatner’s. Generations is real, it happened, it’s an actual Star Trek movie and Shatner’s Kirk is dead.

Again why do people keep harping on this? Have they forgotten everything? TOS was older and TNG was to replace them. Berman didn’t want TOS ever really mentioned. Killing of Kirk was to make way for TNG which they did. Paramount didn’t want any more TOS movies. So stop harping on Shatner for doing Generations. HARP ON Ron Moore, Braga and Berman for putting together a very sub par film.

And for the record, they killed Spock in STII and brought him back. It is science fiction. But somehow Shatner/Kirk doesn’t get the same respect? Ridiculous.

62. Hugh Hoyland - July 19, 2010

Pine IS the Captain of the Enterprise now, so he obviously should be included, like it or not. And unless something happens he will be the Captain for at least two more motion pictures. As far as Greenwoods Pike, I think he should be included as well, he was Captain for a large part of the movie.

63. P Technobabble - July 19, 2010

It seems to me the general premise of this documentary was to interview the Captains who starred in each of the Star Trek series, and not every single captain who ever appeared in Star Trek. If Nimoy winds up in there, I’m sure it would owe more to the friendship between Shatner and Nimoy, and not specifically because Spock eventually was a Captain. (Of course a Trek series starring Nimoy as Capt. Spock would have been quite logical).
I think the idea of trying to incorporate Chris Pine, George Takei, etc. etc. would be beyond the premise of Shatner’s original idea. (It sure seems like everyone wants to take Shatner’s original ideas and alter them — see STV, for example). Anyway, this documentary sounds like a very cool project, and I think Shatner is quite a good interviewer.
And, slightly off topic, I think that despite what sort of opinion some people have of Shatner, when all is said and done, William Shatner will go down in history as one of the most successful, most memorable, most versatile, most prolific tv/film personalities to ever come out of Canada/Hollywood. Keep living long and prospering, Captain.

64. Dee - July 19, 2010

CHRIIIIIIIIIIIS PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE !!!!!!!…… of course !

65. Tim Handrahan - July 19, 2010

If they want to bring Shatner’s Kirk back , they could. It is Science Fiction where alomst anything can happen. In Trek alone, timelines have been changed often (City on the Edge of Forever, Star Trek First Contact, etc.) and everyone form the original series has either been killed or incapacitated in either an episode or a film. But for Trek to continue, something drastic had to be done. No one wanted to see Shatner and Nimoy in a film once again more than me. It can still happen but at least we got the chance to see Nimoy as Spock once more.

66. Magic_Al - July 19, 2010

At the risk of being flamed by Takei fans, I’m going to say Captain Sulu doesn’t count because his supporting role was equivalent to the captains of the Reliant or the Grissom or any other “other” starship we’ve seen in Star Trek. Sulu was never the leader of the main ship (or station in Sisko’s case). Captain Decker was at least captain of the Enterprise briefly in the first movie and so Stephen Collins might belong in the documentary more than George Takei, as might Alan Ruck’s Enterprise-B Captain Harriman, though that’s starting to push it. Really, the documentary is about the experience of being the lead character of a Star Trek series and Nimoy’s inclusion is because he’s Leonard Nimoy.

67. G - July 19, 2010

Pine is an “untried Captain”. Hasn’t earned his stripes just yet. You have to complete a 5 year mission.

68. SciFiGuy - July 19, 2010

Pine should be in the documentary.

In my humble opinion of course…

69. Roger - July 19, 2010

Pine and Greenwood are not going to be in this and rightful so.

I am glad that someone hasn’t forgotten prior Trek.

70. Roger - July 19, 2010

Basically it the captains of the TV series. You are not going to talk to everyone who held the rank of captain. Are you kidding?

Shatner, Stewart, Brooks, Mulgrew and Bakula. Done!

71. Al - July 19, 2010

I just love BIll Shatner. I will miss him when he’s gone.

72. Canon Schmanon - July 19, 2010

Interviewing Pine doesn’t mean anybody is forgotten prior Trek. How melodramatic! I remember it fine and with much affection. I also happen to really like their new direction and cast. Pardon me if I can enjoy both. That doesn’t make me a letter fan.

73. Canon Schmanon - July 19, 2010

Dang, shouldn’t type fast in low light. I meant to say that doesn’t make me a LESSER fan.

74. Joe Sidney - July 19, 2010

#21

Hat Rick, kudos on the Sisko comments.

What an amazing character arc and premium acting!

75. Hat Rick - July 19, 2010

Thanks, Joe. I appreciate that! Good to know that others also respect Brooks, Sisko, and, of course, the producers and the writers who brought DS9 to life.

76. William Kirk - July 20, 2010

Please NO Chris Pine…

77. Muldfeld - July 20, 2010

I wouldn’t give a damn about this documentary normally, but the inclusion of Avery Brooks, who’s character Sisko was originally a commander, and Shatner’s nice comments about him make it a sure thing that I’ll check this out.

Sisko is my favorite captain. Seeing Picard will be cool, too.

78. Penhall - July 20, 2010

I hope Shatner does interview Pine for the documentary, only because if he doesn’t, there will be tons of “Shatner hates Chris Pine!!!!!” rants on all these topics.

79. Dom - July 20, 2010

Chris Pine appearing would make for a nice open end to the doco, as his adventure is just beginning and the others have long since moved on to other things.

I’m in the camp that sees the ST09 universe as a completely separate one from the original, with even a divergent history. The old Trek universe was an extrapolation of the world of the 1960s (and 1980s as I consider TNG and it’s companions to be separate from TOS and it’s films.)

ST09 is extrapolated directly from our world. The uniform designs at the beginning and later on, the Kelvin’s and fleet’s different designs, the characters who look a little bit like the ones from TOS, yet are are quite different (obviously as played by different actors) simply points to the Narada and Nimoy’s Spock being thrown into the past of a different universe. Maybe there will be a Khan Singh in this universe also, for example, but that hasn’t happened yet and perhaps there’s no Vejur, as Voyager 6 was never launched from our Earth.

Either way, we get a universe that is clearly a new one for the Trek characters to explore. I just hope we get to see that rather than an alternate rehash of past characters and situations.

80. David - July 20, 2010

He might as well interview The Captain (& Tennille) while he’s at it.

81. Shatner_Fan_Prime - July 20, 2010

To all those calling for Takei, Greenwood, etc…the project seems to be about the *actors who have played the lead character* in an incarnation of Star Trek. That would only be 6 people: Shatner, Stewart, Brooks, Mulgrew, Bakula and Pine. For God’s sake, the documentary isn’t going to be about the day to day life of a starship captain! It’s going to be about what they all have in common: the experience of being at the forefront of the Trek phenomenon. Sheesh, no wonder Trekkies get made fun of.

This project is like a sequel to Mind Meld, and the idea of Shatner interviewing Stewart goes back many years, to a time when Shat was promoting Mind Meld. Of course, what this really is is another clever way for Bill to make $ off Star Trek fans, but hell, I’ll buy it. :-)

82. Hugh Hoyland - July 20, 2010

Well I’ll agree about George Takei, He did play a Captain in the Last TOS movie and in an episode of Voyager I believe. But he never was a “lead character” in any screen adaptation. (he sure wanted to be though).

But the character of Cpt. Chistopher Pike WAS a lead character, and has a TV pilot to prove it, and a two parter TOS episode as well. And he was the Captain again in Star Trek 09. Now Jeffrey Hunter is no longer with us, but Bruce Greenwood is, so I dont see the problem with including him.

83. Shatner_Fan_Prime - July 20, 2010

#82 “But the character of Cpt. Chistopher Pike WAS a lead character”

I’ve been trying to point out that this project won’t be about the characters. It will be about the actors. In a nutshell, Shat’s talk with them will be: ‘Here was my experience as the star of a Star Trek show. What was yours?’

84. Roger - July 20, 2010

Again you can wish all you want but it will just be the captains from TOS,TNG,DS9,VOY and ENT. Which is correct and fine by me!

No pine or greenwood!

85. John from Cincinnati - July 20, 2010

STV would’ve been better had they gotten the original Sybok they wanted: Sean Connery, and didn’t sacrifice the story due to budget.

An epic battle between Angels & Demons, imagine that and all before the Davinci Code, Angels & Demons and Supernatural!

86. Anthony Pascale - July 20, 2010

Roger

again I warn you. This is a place to express opinions. You have no inside info and therefore are not aware of the ‘correct’ or ‘right’ facts in regards to this doc.

your I am right and you are all wrong attitude is wearing thin after just one day

87. Krazy Joe - July 20, 2010

He needs to interview Chris Pine, too. A documentary called ‘The Captains’ needs all six of them.

88. Author of The Vulcan Neck Pinch for Fathers - July 20, 2010

@ 85:

Connery wouldn’t have helped TFF any more than he helped other flops like League of Extraoridinary Gentlemen, etc.

Story killed TFF, and however it evolved, from the pen (or word processor) of many or one author isn’t as relevant as the fact that it was what it was, and it was wretched.

I will give Shatner some breaks as a director for some of the shot setups and visual things he did in various scenes within TFF, but I also assume those setups had to come with consult with the cinematographer. As far as it being an “albatross” around Shatner’s neck, yes, it is, and it will always be so. Right or wrong, his name will always be attached to it as the director, and the director, right or wrong, gets the brickbats or the praise….and if Bill thinks the rock monster was going to save the day, he’s sorely mistaken.

Go ahead and put Pine in the project. He’s part of the ethos now.

89. Hat Rick - July 20, 2010

Well, I guess what initially screamed “cheap” at me was the decision to simulate the shuttle landing in the beginning of TFF when Kirk and friends were being picked up.

Also, I don’t think that the “Row, Row, Row Your Boat” motif really worked that well.

I think that when the entire thing was envisioned, rather than having what seemed like studio-shot scenery, the movie would have led much more with grandiose panoramic vistas akin to the MGM-style Westerns of yore. The decisions to have close-up visuals, such as the “I’ll take away your pain” scenes, seemed to take away from the cinematic mise-en-scene the movie could have presented.

I remember reading how disappointed Shatner was in some of the artistic and SFX compromises that had to be made because of budget limitations (the little-mourned decision to cut the smoking rock-aliens, for example). I think that if he had the money to remake the movie, and a decent budget, the movie could have been far more appealing than it actually was.

I’m still not clear on why, after the success of STIV:TVH, they didn’t give TFF the money it so clearly needed to present the look Trek deserved.

90. kmart - July 20, 2010

85, 88

Connery was only one of the Syboks Shat didn’t get. He went for Max Von Sydow and Klaus Maria Brandauer, and they were too expensive. I think Brandauer would have been dynamite, very unpredictable, and Von Sydow can sell anything, but Connery would have been worth the price for the moment when Kirk sez ‘you’re mad’ … the response is something Luckinbill does well, but w/o the star charisma of a Connery. Funny how they went for Largo, Blofeld and Bond from NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN and couldn’t get ANY of them.

Having said that, I could also see Connery turning in a rare bad performance in TFF, a la THE AVENGERS (off-kilter unrestrained) or THE PRESIDIO (trying too hard), given the shitty production issues plaguing the show, something he just doesn’t abide.

91. skyjedi - July 20, 2010

I am glad Connery was not in Star Trek V, because he got to be in the second best Indiana Jones film instead. Last Crusade was a great film just like raiders. Temple of Doom has its moments too but was the black sheep of the trilogy. Crystal Numbskull does not deserve any consideration whatsover. But who would have thought it would be a good movie anyway, post War of the Worlds Spielberg, and star wars prequels Lucas, ugh.

92. Jack 2211 - July 20, 2010

Pine hasn’t had much of a chance to be captain yet. I totally buy him as Kirk, and would enjoy seeing him riff with Shatner in a doc — but, arguably, he hasn’t really played Captain Kirk yet. Maybe after the next flick.

93. TK - July 21, 2010

i strongly feel that Chris Pine should be included. I can’t help but think that this is Bill’s way of passing the torch….. he wants to do it in his own way….

94. tony - July 21, 2010

cant wait to see him in vegas

95. captain_neill - July 22, 2010

94

same here

God I can’t believe that the whole discussion is about Chris Pine being omitted. I want to see the doc no matter what as he is still chatting with the captains I grew up loving.

96. roy - July 30, 2010

If William Shatner wants to interview Chris Pine for his upcoming documentary, then that’s his perogative and he can do whatever he likes.

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