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	<title>Comments on: UPDATED: Orci &amp; Kurtzman On Star Trek Sequel Progress + Broadening Focus + Listening To Fans About Khan</title>
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		<title>By: TheTrekkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheTrekkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 02:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I enjoy the classic movies of the 1980s, 90s and early 2000s I appreciate contemporary ideas. Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan was the most loved movie of the original Star Treks; there is a prequel to back up Khan. In TOS, Montalban had an entire episode with him guest starring as Khan. in the alternate timeline that started with the 2009 movie, there would be little or nothing to explain Khan. And also, if you were going to follow the original 1982 movie&#039;s storyline, then bring back William Shatner, because if you want someone who LOOKS like a Rear Admiral, you need someone that looks less teenage-like. Chris Pine presents too young a character and if you use special effects to make Pine look more age-appropriate for an Admiral, I personally would have a hard time recognizing him. Shatner also has the stature and experience of an Admiral. 

Also, just putting it out there, you could put in Pike as Fleet Captain overviewing the cadet vessel that he got Delta Radiation poisoning on to somewhat explain what happened in TOS: The Menagerie Parts I and II.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I enjoy the classic movies of the 1980s, 90s and early 2000s I appreciate contemporary ideas. Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan was the most loved movie of the original Star Treks; there is a prequel to back up Khan. In TOS, Montalban had an entire episode with him guest starring as Khan. in the alternate timeline that started with the 2009 movie, there would be little or nothing to explain Khan. And also, if you were going to follow the original 1982 movie&#8217;s storyline, then bring back William Shatner, because if you want someone who LOOKS like a Rear Admiral, you need someone that looks less teenage-like. Chris Pine presents too young a character and if you use special effects to make Pine look more age-appropriate for an Admiral, I personally would have a hard time recognizing him. Shatner also has the stature and experience of an Admiral. </p>
<p>Also, just putting it out there, you could put in Pike as Fleet Captain overviewing the cadet vessel that he got Delta Radiation poisoning on to somewhat explain what happened in TOS: The Menagerie Parts I and II.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khan is a great advasary of Kirk, and I like the idea, but it should be taked from a point of a skewed timeline. Instead of Kirk stumbling upon Khan&#039;s space pod, and marooning him. why not have some other vessel stumble upon them only Khan gains control of that vessel and the enterprise is the only ship in the area to take on Khan. 

The point is involve the character but Change the events as now that the timeline is changed they can have more fun with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khan is a great advasary of Kirk, and I like the idea, but it should be taked from a point of a skewed timeline. Instead of Kirk stumbling upon Khan&#8217;s space pod, and marooning him. why not have some other vessel stumble upon them only Khan gains control of that vessel and the enterprise is the only ship in the area to take on Khan. </p>
<p>The point is involve the character but Change the events as now that the timeline is changed they can have more fun with it.</p>
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		<title>By: aj</title>
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		<dc:creator>aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kahn would only be ok if they did it differently. no rehashing of space seed/wrath of kahn, plz. 

don&#039;t forget the quote:

to boldly go &quot;where no man/no one has gone before...&quot;

so why go where somebody else has been?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kahn would only be ok if they did it differently. no rehashing of space seed/wrath of kahn, plz. </p>
<p>don&#8217;t forget the quote:</p>
<p>to boldly go &#8220;where no man/no one has gone before&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>so why go where somebody else has been?</p>
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		<title>By: If We Can Dream It... We Can Do It...</title>
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		<dc:creator>If We Can Dream It... We Can Do It...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 05:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new and fresh revival of perhaps the most enduring story of all time has been born... the possibilities are virtually endless, and while I LOVE Khan and the Botany Bay crew, do I think now is the time to jump right into making parallels from TOS material?  No.  Maybe when you begin writing the script for the 5th installment of this &quot;fresh&quot; interpretation of the Trek universe... maybe.  For now, however, you have so many possibilities... so much back-story and origin to answer to and elaborate on.  What about bringing Backula on to reprise his role as Archer?  Tie the generations together visually and with intelligent scripting.  Elaborate on the relationship between Kirk and Decker... and what exactly happens between Kirk and Spock (other than the events that occurred in the previous picture) that plant the seeds of a long and strong friendship despite their tenuous relationship early on?  So much to choose from!!

Although I enjoy the TNG movies, I was saddened in those years to think that the back stories, it seemed, were never to be told... the original cast was aging, and it was clear they would never again work together.  I am almost 40, and this revival has brought the kid out in me... I hope to be enjoying this new adventure well into my 60&#039;s  :)     Thank you for bringing the magic back...  Long Live the Enterprise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new and fresh revival of perhaps the most enduring story of all time has been born&#8230; the possibilities are virtually endless, and while I LOVE Khan and the Botany Bay crew, do I think now is the time to jump right into making parallels from TOS material?  No.  Maybe when you begin writing the script for the 5th installment of this &#8220;fresh&#8221; interpretation of the Trek universe&#8230; maybe.  For now, however, you have so many possibilities&#8230; so much back-story and origin to answer to and elaborate on.  What about bringing Backula on to reprise his role as Archer?  Tie the generations together visually and with intelligent scripting.  Elaborate on the relationship between Kirk and Decker&#8230; and what exactly happens between Kirk and Spock (other than the events that occurred in the previous picture) that plant the seeds of a long and strong friendship despite their tenuous relationship early on?  So much to choose from!!</p>
<p>Although I enjoy the TNG movies, I was saddened in those years to think that the back stories, it seemed, were never to be told&#8230; the original cast was aging, and it was clear they would never again work together.  I am almost 40, and this revival has brought the kid out in me&#8230; I hope to be enjoying this new adventure well into my 60&#8217;s  :)     Thank you for bringing the magic back&#8230;  Long Live the Enterprise!</p>
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		<title>By: Malcontent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcontent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 04:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As good as Kahn was, he could have been so much more.  He could have been a recurring character, the Gul Dukat to Kirks Sisko, if you will.  I don&#039;t think a new Kahn could possibly be as good as the old Kahn until the new crew has had a chance to mature and grow into their own stories.  The inevitable next Kahn encounter will be all the sweeter for the character development.  STII was a character driven movie, one of the finest examples of Trek.  There&#039;s no need to put yourself up against that, yet.  It&#039;s like in BSG where they didn&#039;t do the Pegasus story until mid second season.  The show was so much more sophisticated by then and it showed in how that story unfolded.  Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As good as Kahn was, he could have been so much more.  He could have been a recurring character, the Gul Dukat to Kirks Sisko, if you will.  I don&#8217;t think a new Kahn could possibly be as good as the old Kahn until the new crew has had a chance to mature and grow into their own stories.  The inevitable next Kahn encounter will be all the sweeter for the character development.  STII was a character driven movie, one of the finest examples of Trek.  There&#8217;s no need to put yourself up against that, yet.  It&#8217;s like in BSG where they didn&#8217;t do the Pegasus story until mid second season.  The show was so much more sophisticated by then and it showed in how that story unfolded.  Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: a mere ensign</title>
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		<dc:creator>a mere ensign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me-too on +Klingons, -Khan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me-too on +Klingons, -Khan.</p>
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		<title>By: moauvian waoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>moauvian waoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d prefer something new but I&#039;m wondering why nobody brought up Sherman&#039;s Planet as a possible plot and a source for conflict with the Klingons. I&#039;ve wanted to see a large battle sequence since Kor and Kirk&#039;s showdown was interrupted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d prefer something new but I&#8217;m wondering why nobody brought up Sherman&#8217;s Planet as a possible plot and a source for conflict with the Klingons. I&#8217;ve wanted to see a large battle sequence since Kor and Kirk&#8217;s showdown was interrupted.</p>
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		<title>By: Maj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>323

I personally love the spin offs even more than TOS and those characters were brilliant, but I&#039;m just speaking in terms of the broader *external* view that non-trekkers possess.

The reality is nowadays, that first and foremost the writers have to find an appeal for the non-trekkers, the average movie goers. And then they can inject our ST *fix*. It does sound kinda disappointing but we should be glad the franchise is big again. Imagine the alternative with another failed show like Enterprise, or another franchise killer Nemesis. I for one am excited by what the new writers have introduced so far.

Oh and agreed, NO Kahn!</description>
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<p>I personally love the spin offs even more than TOS and those characters were brilliant, but I&#8217;m just speaking in terms of the broader *external* view that non-trekkers possess.</p>
<p>The reality is nowadays, that first and foremost the writers have to find an appeal for the non-trekkers, the average movie goers. And then they can inject our ST *fix*. It does sound kinda disappointing but we should be glad the franchise is big again. Imagine the alternative with another failed show like Enterprise, or another franchise killer Nemesis. I for one am excited by what the new writers have introduced so far.</p>
<p>Oh and agreed, NO Kahn!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They will not listen to fans.  Why would they start now?  They haven&#039;t so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will not listen to fans.  Why would they start now?  They haven&#8217;t so far.</p>
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		<title>By: dmduncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmduncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>353:  &quot;it’s not practical for a film for which the focus will be the original cast of characters that’s set in the 23rd century, and for them to do flashbacks to 20th century Earth during Khan’s rise and reign would probably take up too much time in the movie.&quot;

That all depends on the length of the flashback moments.  Bob and Alex have proved they can pack a lot of information into a short amount of screen time, so it wouldn&#039;t be fair to presume flashbacks would eat up too much screen time.

If they can&#039;t imagine how to do it, maybe it would be fair to leave off doing it that way.  But nobody should impart their own failure of imagination to Bob, Alex, and now Damon, as if to say those three cannot imagine how to do it because some anonymous Star Trek fan can&#039;t imagine how to do it.

Show me the fan commentary that predicted such a poignant short opening to ST.09.  I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll find any.

And Damon, we may remember, has extensive experience crafting flashback scenes for a recently ended TV series he wrote for.  I have no doubt he knows how to effectively compress things for a 2 hour movie should that practice be necessary for the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>353:  &#8220;it’s not practical for a film for which the focus will be the original cast of characters that’s set in the 23rd century, and for them to do flashbacks to 20th century Earth during Khan’s rise and reign would probably take up too much time in the movie.&#8221;</p>
<p>That all depends on the length of the flashback moments.  Bob and Alex have proved they can pack a lot of information into a short amount of screen time, so it wouldn&#8217;t be fair to presume flashbacks would eat up too much screen time.</p>
<p>If they can&#8217;t imagine how to do it, maybe it would be fair to leave off doing it that way.  But nobody should impart their own failure of imagination to Bob, Alex, and now Damon, as if to say those three cannot imagine how to do it because some anonymous Star Trek fan can&#8217;t imagine how to do it.</p>
<p>Show me the fan commentary that predicted such a poignant short opening to ST.09.  I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll find any.</p>
<p>And Damon, we may remember, has extensive experience crafting flashback scenes for a recently ended TV series he wrote for.  I have no doubt he knows how to effectively compress things for a 2 hour movie should that practice be necessary for the story.</p>
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