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	<title>Comments on: Karl Urban Ready For Star Trek &#8220;Einsteins&#8221; To Take It &#8220;Further&#8221; In Sequel</title>
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		<title>By: Disinvited</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disinvited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57.

At this point, I doubt I will ever see a response that opens my eyes and makes me understand this stance. I admit the 2009 effort was darn entertaining as a mere movie can be and Bob Orci is such a personable and good barker for his own product that he may get me to check out his next effort. But against the vast sea of STAR TREK stories ever told in any media since its inception in the 1960s, &quot;brilliant&quot;? 

I mean even as early as 2006 Dauman declared the goal was:

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2006/12/11/fool-on-the-street-viacom-plants-the-flag.aspx

&quot;Dauman was speaking about the company&#039;s overseas strategy -- where he sees margin expansion in the range of 10 to 15 percentage points over the next few years -- but it was interesting all the same for him to bring up an image of the company&#039;s past in taking his own company to task. Simply landing on the moon isn&#039;t enough for Dauman. Apparently, he wants to colonize&quot; - Rick Aristotle Munarriz, THE MOTLEY FOOL, December 11, 2006

And most reasonable people admit that the 2009 effort contributed little to this strategy of exceeding merely an impressive moon landing by significantly improving the overseas take.</description>
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<p>At this point, I doubt I will ever see a response that opens my eyes and makes me understand this stance. I admit the 2009 effort was darn entertaining as a mere movie can be and Bob Orci is such a personable and good barker for his own product that he may get me to check out his next effort. But against the vast sea of STAR TREK stories ever told in any media since its inception in the 1960s, &#8220;brilliant&#8221;? </p>
<p>I mean even as early as 2006 Dauman declared the goal was:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2006/12/11/fool-on-the-street-viacom-plants-the-flag.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2006/12/11/fool-on-the-street-viacom-plants-the-flag.aspx</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Dauman was speaking about the company&#8217;s overseas strategy &#8212; where he sees margin expansion in the range of 10 to 15 percentage points over the next few years &#8212; but it was interesting all the same for him to bring up an image of the company&#8217;s past in taking his own company to task. Simply landing on the moon isn&#8217;t enough for Dauman. Apparently, he wants to colonize&#8221; &#8211; Rick Aristotle Munarriz, THE MOTLEY FOOL, December 11, 2006</p>
<p>And most reasonable people admit that the 2009 effort contributed little to this strategy of exceeding merely an impressive moon landing by significantly improving the overseas take.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 02:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just make the movie, my god, this is th great reamake of all time. I trust them. Look waht they made. Brilliant!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just make the movie, my god, this is th great reamake of all time. I trust them. Look waht they made. Brilliant!!</p>
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		<title>By: Disinvited</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disinvited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51.

I happen to have that tome (6th printing) right here, and I suggest that, even though the cover clearly proclaims that its orientation is organized around the more general concept of being THE BOOK ON HOW TO WRITE FOR TV!, if that&#039;s all you got from reading it that you need to read it again.

Specifically starting with page 323:

&quot;At the bottom of page 13, we establish the fact that Sulu shoots a police revolver 6 times. Later on in the script you will discover that Kirk, using the same pistol, fires at a mounted knight in armor 5 times.  This would make the revolver an 11-shooter...
Please have this discrepancy mended.&quot; - Excerpt from script comment.

&quot;A former producer from STAR TREK often used to say that in order to write for this series you have take a post-graduate course in the techniques of operating a starship.&quot; - Stephen E. Whitfield, THE MAKING OF STAR TREK


In science-fiction writing when you mention some preexisting concept such as a revolver, you don&#039;t have to take it apart and explain the mechanism but if you claim that a police revolver is an immediate threat to the entire galaxy then you better damn well credibly mend the discrepancy.</description>
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<p>I happen to have that tome (6th printing) right here, and I suggest that, even though the cover clearly proclaims that its orientation is organized around the more general concept of being THE BOOK ON HOW TO WRITE FOR TV!, if that&#8217;s all you got from reading it that you need to read it again.</p>
<p>Specifically starting with page 323:</p>
<p>&#8220;At the bottom of page 13, we establish the fact that Sulu shoots a police revolver 6 times. Later on in the script you will discover that Kirk, using the same pistol, fires at a mounted knight in armor 5 times.  This would make the revolver an 11-shooter&#8230;<br />
Please have this discrepancy mended.&#8221; &#8211; Excerpt from script comment.</p>
<p>&#8220;A former producer from STAR TREK often used to say that in order to write for this series you have take a post-graduate course in the techniques of operating a starship.&#8221; &#8211; Stephen E. Whitfield, THE MAKING OF STAR TREK</p>
<p>In science-fiction writing when you mention some preexisting concept such as a revolver, you don&#8217;t have to take it apart and explain the mechanism but if you claim that a police revolver is an immediate threat to the entire galaxy then you better damn well credibly mend the discrepancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Woulfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woulfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert was really smart he had a lot of gems he passed on to us folks....

There are two things that are Infinite, The Universe and human stupidity, and I&#039;m not so sure about the Universe - Albert Einstein

So far he seems to be right about Human Stupidity, which is why I watch so little TV, as it just gets dumber every year w/  &quot;Reality&quot; TV shows.

Yet the drooling masses keep watching that stuff like it was high art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert was really smart he had a lot of gems he passed on to us folks&#8230;.</p>
<p>There are two things that are Infinite, The Universe and human stupidity, and I&#8217;m not so sure about the Universe &#8211; Albert Einstein</p>
<p>So far he seems to be right about Human Stupidity, which is why I watch so little TV, as it just gets dumber every year w/  &#8220;Reality&#8221; TV shows.</p>
<p>Yet the drooling masses keep watching that stuff like it was high art.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Ballz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Ballz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the real Einstein once pointed out, &quot;imagination is more important than knowledge&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the real Einstein once pointed out, &#8220;imagination is more important than knowledge&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know....I just hope those &quot;Einsteins realize for the next story that the trinity is important. Kirk, Spock and Bones must be at center stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230;.I just hope those &#8220;Einsteins realize for the next story that the trinity is important. Kirk, Spock and Bones must be at center stage.</p>
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		<title>By: S. John Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. John Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#50: &quot;“Einsteins” is just a tad over selling them.&quot;

It&#039;s just workaday showbiz chatter .... in pretty much every corner of the entertainment industry, on every scale, coworkers refer to each other as geniuses. It&#039;s basically a form of punctuation in their language, and doesn&#039;t mean the same thing it does in English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#50: &#8220;“Einsteins” is just a tad over selling them.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just workaday showbiz chatter &#8230;. in pretty much every corner of the entertainment industry, on every scale, coworkers refer to each other as geniuses. It&#8217;s basically a form of punctuation in their language, and doesn&#8217;t mean the same thing it does in English.</p>
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		<title>By: P Technobabble</title>
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		<dc:creator>P Technobabble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many among these threads got to read &quot;The Making of Star Trek,&quot; that classic book that is, sadly, no longer in print.  I think the main point of the book showed that everything that was invented for the show was done so primarily so that the show could actually be made.  The notion of a starship traveling faster than the speed of light is not a scientifically accurate piece of fiction, for example.  It was done specifically to move the characters around through uncharted areas of space week after week.  The notion of the transporter is not a scientifically accurate piece of fiction -- it was done because the budget wouldn&#039;t allow showing a starship land on a planet week after week.  The notion of visiting planet after planet inhabited by English-speaking, humanoid aliens is not scientifically accurate -- it was done to get the characters into a story, and because the budget didn&#039;t allow for creating far-out aliens.  The list goes on...
The point is that scientific accuracy is not at the top of Star Trek&#039;s list of things to do.  It never has been.  People who keep harping on the recent film&#039;s portrayal of science are barking up the wrong tree.  The plot devices are there to serve the story, not scientific accuracy.  If you want absolute scientific accuracy, you&#039;ll have to watch documentaries, not science fiction. 
As for Karl Urban referring to the Supreme Court as &quot;Einsteins,&quot; it is obvious that he is referring to their creative abilities, their imaginations, not comparing them with Einstein as physics majors.  I have no desire to go to a movie and have to carry a copy of  &quot;Quantum Mechanics for Dummies&quot; in order to follow the story.  I&#039;m totally content with a fun, exciting adventure that gets me away from the general daily mediocrity for a couple of hours...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many among these threads got to read &#8220;The Making of Star Trek,&#8221; that classic book that is, sadly, no longer in print.  I think the main point of the book showed that everything that was invented for the show was done so primarily so that the show could actually be made.  The notion of a starship traveling faster than the speed of light is not a scientifically accurate piece of fiction, for example.  It was done specifically to move the characters around through uncharted areas of space week after week.  The notion of the transporter is not a scientifically accurate piece of fiction &#8212; it was done because the budget wouldn&#8217;t allow showing a starship land on a planet week after week.  The notion of visiting planet after planet inhabited by English-speaking, humanoid aliens is not scientifically accurate &#8212; it was done to get the characters into a story, and because the budget didn&#8217;t allow for creating far-out aliens.  The list goes on&#8230;<br />
The point is that scientific accuracy is not at the top of Star Trek&#8217;s list of things to do.  It never has been.  People who keep harping on the recent film&#8217;s portrayal of science are barking up the wrong tree.  The plot devices are there to serve the story, not scientific accuracy.  If you want absolute scientific accuracy, you&#8217;ll have to watch documentaries, not science fiction.<br />
As for Karl Urban referring to the Supreme Court as &#8220;Einsteins,&#8221; it is obvious that he is referring to their creative abilities, their imaginations, not comparing them with Einstein as physics majors.  I have no desire to go to a movie and have to carry a copy of  &#8220;Quantum Mechanics for Dummies&#8221; in order to follow the story.  I&#8217;m totally content with a fun, exciting adventure that gets me away from the general daily mediocrity for a couple of hours&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Einsteins&quot; is just a tad over selling them.

I think Ron Moore and Brannon Braga, Michael Pillar, and Nick Meyer are all better writers but never called them &#039;Einsteins&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Einsteins&#8221; is just a tad over selling them.</p>
<p>I think Ron Moore and Brannon Braga, Michael Pillar, and Nick Meyer are all better writers but never called them &#8216;Einsteins&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: matthias from trekpower.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthias from trekpower.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is always a pleasure to listen to karl urban. and i also think, they are einsteins - so to say. they have also done mistakes, but intelligent mistakes. in generations for instance there are stupid mistakes!

matthias w.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is always a pleasure to listen to karl urban. and i also think, they are einsteins &#8211; so to say. they have also done mistakes, but intelligent mistakes. in generations for instance there are stupid mistakes!</p>
<p>matthias w.</p>
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