THere were continuity errors in the episode but I thought Flashback was a great episode.

Anyway this site has proven to me that if something they love has errors in plot they will ignore it.

I still cant get past the guy who can’t watch First Contact because of ONE plot hole yet can happily watch Star Trek XI which has LOADS of plot holes.

I love watching both films even though I prefer FC. But I don’t understand this logic other than some people have double standards.

Thats pretty much the way the show came across to me as well. IMO it should have been a prequel to TOS, I expected it to be so. But it came across more like the Next Generations “TOS” than it did an actual prequel.

Takei’s acting was, putting it mildly, not good either. Meyer in ST:VI directed him a LOT better.

Problem with Sulu being a Captain is that Sulu never really *did* anything to show he was Captain material. Mr. Scott showed better command material than Sulu did through TOS.

An Excelsior series would have been disastrous. 2 seasons at most.

There are some real gems in VOY.

However, the pyrite-to-gold ratio in VOY was probably significantly lower than in any of the Trek series, other than ENT. Part of this was due to the requirement that some way had to be found of saving the ship and main characters in every episode in order to continue the series, coupled with the restrictions imposed by the fact that there couldn’t be much interaction with the rest of Starfleet which otherwise would have made the episode resolutions more plausible. But, that said, TOS had much the same problem, since the Enterprise was far away from the known Federation and thus from ready rescue, and yet the episode resolutions didn’t appear as implausible or contrived.

I like the comment I read here that the problem was that there wasn’t enough of a science-fiction element in ths show. Several alien races seemed less alien than they could have been; Q, for example, seemed positively emasculated for some reason. The Borg, which one would think would have assimilated the entire ship without batting an eye, were somehow artificially inhibited from doing so for plot reasons that I never found very plausible.

And, without dissing Kate Mulgrew, I thought that Captain Janeway grew less compelling as the series progressed, in part because of that episode where she was immersed in some kind of Victorian holodeck story.

I do hold out hopes, as I said, that when I view the series again (and some of the episodes for the first time), I will find that some of the criticisms directed against VOY are actually overstated. It may be one of those series that grows on you over time, if for no other reason than nostalgia, but possibly also because one sees in them things one might have missed for the first time for reasons of misplaced expectation.

“…The problem I had with ENT was it seemed much more of a prequel to Next Gen than to TOS. It had a proto Next Generation feel to me, even the bridge and design of the ship itself. But I did give it a chance none the less, and it had a few interesting elements to it…”

These are essentially my feelings as well. Probably owes more to the fact that the same team were producing the episodes, and TOS was, apparently, a real thorn in their side.
TNG certainly developed into a great show, had a terrific run during its middle period, then started to falter, IMO. I believe the producers were truly burnt out. DS9 was, to some degree, outside the box and didn’t seem to suffer from burn-out as much. But VOY was really a long run of burn out. By the time ENT came along, I don’t think there was an ounce of energy left in the producers (Berman & Braga). When Manny Coto and the Reeves-Stevens came in, you could feel some new life. Who knows where ENT might have gone. But it did owe more to TNG than TOS, which was always my biggest gripe. A true prequel should have been an obvious lead-in to TOS, IMO. It could easily have been a lead-in straight to TNG.

Of course, I like Trek actors in general, but some more than others.

And nice comments as usual, Buzz Cagney. :-)

I’d love to go see that, as Wil was shafted big time by the editing of the film.

He’ll rip into MST3K style knowing him.

It needs that to happen to it too, we all KNOW it’s a rip-off of TWOK.

Right ?