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John de Lancie On Why We Haven’t (and wont) see Q in a Star Trek Movie July 26, 2010

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After appearing as the enigmatic super-being Q in the pilot of Star Trek: The Next Generation, John de Lancie became a regular guest star on all three 24th century Trek series, but he never made it into the TNG movies. In a new Q&A, the actor talks about why we haven’t, and may never see his Q on the big screen.

 

de Lancie: Q is not a villain, but he is aging

StarTrek.com has a fan Q&A with John de Lancie where he responds to various questions about his career on and off Trek. Regarding why he never appeared in one of the four Next Gen movies, de Lancie spoke of the nature of how Q is not really a bad guy:

Q was never a villain as far as I was concerned, and the films needed villains. I might have been arrogant and badly flawed and all that, but I never thought of the character as a villain. And I don’t think, after a while, that the writers and producers thought of me as a villain. If they’d used me in one of the films in the way they’d used me in some of the episodes I just mentioned, sure, that would have been great. But I don’t think that’s what they needed.


de Lancie’s first appearance in TNG "Encounter at Farpoint" and final appearance in VOY "Q2" (CBS)

de Lancie also explained why (even though he would be interested) he doesn’t expect to appear in the new universe of the JJ Abrams Star Trek films :

I’d be very interested. The only problem is that I, too, am suffering from this mortal thing called aging and there’s a point at which it might not make sense. What might make sense is that you hear my voice, but I just don’t know that it would make sense to have an aging Q. I would have a problem with that as a viewer, and I don’t think I’d be the only one.

More Q&A with de Lancie at StarTrek.com.


The ‘mortal’ John de Lancie on the Saturn red carpet in June (Albert L. Ortega)

 

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1. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - July 26, 2010

Ill give it to John. He is one smart Actor. It would be fun though to at least have him do something in a Trek Movie. But as he said. He is not realy a Villian. But he sure can make things fun for the Trek Crew.

2. wowseruk - July 26, 2010

maybe an ‘end of q’ type story.. with some ‘villian’ trying to age them out of existence… they could have an old kirk in there too! :p

3. flake - July 26, 2010

If Rick Berman grew some balls then we could have had Q in a TNG movie instead of Ru’Afo or Soran or Shinzon or Mrs Borg. Maybe when TNG gets rebooted we will see him again.

4. Darkwing - July 26, 2010

That idea actually has some potential. That would make an interesting story, at least at the core

5. Fray Close - July 26, 2010

I would love to see Q in a movie, personally.

6. Elisa - July 26, 2010

It would be really fun to see Q “pretending” to be an older man in a future ST film. Q would *choose* to look older to make fun of an aging (TNG) crew, then we could have them all back for at least a part of a new ST film. That would be a fun way of explaining the real life maturing of John (although the man has aged quite well!)

7. Captain Braxton - July 26, 2010

Whether he is a villain or not is irrelevant. Q is usually an observer who likes to throw in odd twists.

The first TNG episode with the borg is a perfect example of how Q can be used as an intermediary between the villain and protagonist.

Anyway, I wouldn’t want to see Q ruined by appearing in these new ‘trek’ films. They are nothing like the star trek that has always been and Q has no place in these new movies.

8. Eye of the Great Bird - July 26, 2010

Since the character ‘Q” was so adept, and eager to emmulate Picard, it wouldn’t be too far fetched to imagine “Q” trying to appear aged, “I decided that since I am a better Q- a more seasoned Q, that I would appear that way as well.”
I’m sure it would be easy for deLancie to pull it off. He mentioned : “What might make sense is that you hear my voice, but I just don’t know that it would make sense to have an aging Q.”
To me, It was his voice that stood out more than his appearence.

9. bgiles73 - July 26, 2010

Q could be de-aged in the same way Professor X and Magneto were in the X-Men scene where they went to recruit Jean Grey! I would love to see Q butt heads with a head-strong young Kirk, a logical Spock and an irritated McCoy more than a retread of the Khan Story! Q would be a great way to pull Kirk Prime into the story and once and for all straighten out that mess that the Trek Universe has been in! Bring on more Q !!!

10. Michael - July 26, 2010

If they want Q in a movie, they should really hand off the baton to John’s son. Have a younger Q mess around with the younger Kirk, Spock, and McCoy!

11. zanzibar - July 26, 2010

I always get a head shake out of these prompted discussions of whether to use such and so reoccurring character from TV, pre-09 movies or this and such a previous plot point. I am a geezer fan of the Original, TNG and VOY but the new Star Trek was so fresh in it’s reprisal of the core crew following a deviant story line that I’m hoping sequels go where no-one has gone before.

12. Eye of the Great Bird - July 26, 2010

#8 Besides, Kirk, and Spock wouldn’t know if he was supposed to be young OR old.

13. Dunsel Report - July 26, 2010

He turned in a fine performance in Season 2 of Breaking Bad, which I recommend.

14. SirMartman - July 26, 2010

I think, it would make sence to have “Q” played by deLancie to turn up in the new Trek time line.

Everythings changed now,,,planets have been blowen up, the time line has changed,, Im sure the Mighty Q would find all of this alittle interesting.

And if Khan turns up,,
Im hoping he will be wise as well as strong, Im hoping the new Trek will have afew villins that get away for a change.

(Neros not dead,,, just lost in time)

15. Daoud - July 26, 2010

#6 Good general idea though and retcon that Q had his human form age *along with* Picard. That actually makes perfect sense. As to getting Q into the new ST, that would be hard to explain UNLESS we had a scene with de Lancie and Nimoy… with Q asking old Spock “do you want me to wave my arms and just put it all back?”, with Spock saying something like “this present would not exist without the past. it has its own diversity, and in combination with the past, we are all enriched. And that past still exists in another dimension. Why destroy this one to merely copy or clone the other?”

John d. could certainly appear in the new ST as the Squire of Gothos though! His age now, he looks quite a bit like Campbell at the same age. (Or, he could be the Father of the Squire?)

16. Lt. Bailey - July 26, 2010

John made a great point about his aging (none of us are getting younger) but to have his voice pop up in some fashion as Q would be nice to see or hear.

17. P Technobabble - July 26, 2010

I like deLancie, I thought he always gave a superb performance. But, for me, the character of Q was a mistake. Having a God-like being coming and going on a whim, who could get the characters into or out of trouble depending on his mood made for bad storytelling, IMO. According to the premise of the character, he was actually a series regular — you just didn’t see him all the time. And Picard could just call out to him, and he might appear, might not appear, but he was always watching from some ethereal place… And when he did make an appearance, I always wondered why he would bother anyway. Just for the story’s sake, apparently. Sorry, I never bought into the character.

18. rm10019 - July 26, 2010

I never buy the argument that Q, or Data for that matter shouldn’t ‘age’. It is simply explained away as the appearance of aging. A choice by the character to look that way.

19. bgiles73 - July 26, 2010

Maybe the Q age in reverse. Like the anomaly in the episode “All Good Things” was little in the future, but filled the universe at the time that life first began!

20. Mel - July 26, 2010

I wouldn’t mind Q in the sequel, but not with the actor John de Lancie. He is really too old.

Another actor should play Q. There are a lot of great young actors out there.

21. Mr. Film - July 26, 2010

Like I said in my post the other day since we have learned over the years on Next Generation and Voyager that there is a whole race of “Q”, why not have a new evil “Q” put the Enterprise crew through an adventure and the good “Q” played by DeLancie play a small role helping them defeat the evil “Q”. Think of the Spock prime role for DeLancie. Who would be better to play the evil “Q” then Tom Hanks. Did you see Hanks on Leno last year making all those Trek references. He has said he loves Trek. He could be by far the biggest name ever to appear in a Trek movie and bring immediate credibility to the franchise. He is also a big draw overseas which is an area where this last Trek failed. Angels & Demons was mediocre at best and he helped it make like 300 million overseas. I think he would do it and it would be a fun movie.

22. Captain Braxton - July 26, 2010

#14:

There is no NEW timeline. Trek XI has nothing at all to do with the rest of trek. It is basically a remake of TOS.

Abrams doesn’t just get to ignore all of trek history and make up whatever he wants and call it a ‘new’ timeline.

so now anything new should conform to abrams version of trek? i don’t think so.

23. Balok - July 26, 2010

The real reason Q won’t be in any new movie… they can fix the broken time line…

24. Chelsea - July 26, 2010

OMG YES! I love Q so much haha it’d be awesome to see him in a movie.

I wouldn’t want him to be a main character, just have de Lancie in there as a cameo, like just have him walk by so the audience would know Q was hanging out there for a bit but the Enterprise crew wouldn’t realize it, of course. I think that would be way cool. :DDD

25. Will_H - July 26, 2010

I fully agree that Q was never a villain and was more of a force to drive good stories and plots in Star Trek. But as far as a movie Q, well I don’t think that would work too well, at least not in these movies. It would of had to of been a TNG movie which actually could have been good, but they missed that chance. Still, if there’s ever another Trek series on TV I hope they bring him back to that. Q was one of the more creative things that the writing teams have come up with over the decades of Star Trek and I’d love to see Q again.

26. abnclassic - July 26, 2010

Didn’t one of the Q appear in a TOS episode? Erm, Squire of Gothos? Or is that just fanboy wishful thinking? Could that be a tie-in?

27. That rock thing in that episode with the tunnels - July 26, 2010

24 – I was thinking the same thing. Maybe have something odd happen, and then a quick shot of a smirking Q. That’d be a nice Easter egg for the fans.

28. Joe Outlaw - July 26, 2010

Here’s the spin. Yes, Q seems shallow and indifferent. But he and the continuum really care about the silly species called humans for entirely selfish motives. Bringing Q into to any plot at any time in the the Trek universe, at just the right juncture, when all other options have been exhausted, would be great theater. He may only be an influencer, and likely a most unwelcome one, but employed wisely would be a great plot tool. Just imagine the possibilities. Q can be unseen, just entering the Captain’s mind when needed and unnoticed. Or he can be a goad, an interactive mind enticing the players to make the right decision. The money angle is that Q really is a good guy. John De Lancey must play Q. He owns the character as much as Shatner owns Kirk. His apparent age can be readily explained by making himself appear more compatible to his mortal foils.

Q is not a necessity, but certainly an available and marketable character.

29. Kev-1 - July 26, 2010

Also Roddenberry created Q (he added it to Farpoint) so their might be additional remuneration involved should Q be used — that’s an informed guess. Q would also have required a big, grand SF plot. He would have been great in any NexGen movie, though. I just watched the SIx MIllion Dollar Man first episode and John Delancie played an army officer. Funny seeing him “powerless” but “you take the jobs you can get.”

30. justcorbly - July 26, 2010

For me, the compelling thing about Q was not the behavior of that particular individual, but the power and intent of the beings he was only one of. For all practical purposes, Q was either a god or a being with god-like powers. I’d like to see Trek explain who those beings are and what they are doing in the universe. For that, we don’t need de Lanice.

31. DAK23 - July 26, 2010

I’ve always like the character of Q. I thought DeLancie played him perfectly, always more an antagonizer than antagonist, is that makes sense.

Besides, I’ve also felt that the Q was just humanity all growed up, that’s why they take such an interest in us. But clearly, with all their seemingly omnipotent powers they would never make a decent ‘villain’ since someone so powerful could never really be a good foil. A villain needs to be almost a mirror image of the good guy (NOT — NOT Shinzon… that movie was just – just awful). Granted, Q worked well with Picard, but that was more a professor taking a liking to one of his lab rats type interaction.

32. Kirk James T. - July 26, 2010

I dont think Q shold be in any new Star Trek movie, TV series or otherwise. The character was amazing and played by De Lancie to great effect but the new movies are set in the wrong era – it would be like having the Enterprise D turn up.

As for why he didnt appear in any of the TNG movies, thats a realy shame. It would have been good to see him back in Nemesis in some fashion because i always felt although he never played a villian, some of the best ‘bad guys’ are people you can relate to – Q is very relatable and besides, there could have been another villian to add some action but i definitely think that Q in a TNG movie would have been superb.

33. Phil - July 26, 2010

You know, people, lay off Berman. Considering some of the s*** you do put up with (fan films), Rick didn’t do that bad of a job…

34. CmdrR - July 26, 2010

It would be great to see Q or some alien who is not pure scowling villain. At least Nero was nutz. But, it’d be better with a more complex, albeit antagonistic, relationship. NO CLONES! NO GUYS WHO LOST THEIR WIVES!

Anyway, John is a great actor.

35. cugel the clever - July 26, 2010

#22

“Abrams doesn’t just get to ignore all of trek history and make up whatever he wants and call it a ‘new’ timeline.”

Sorry, but you’re wrong. The copywrite owners of the Trek franchise say so and so do the majority of the fans. You are in a small and declining minority.

“so now anything new should conform to abrams version of trek? i don’t think so.”

Wrong again. Unless you win a lottery and buy the franchise, you either live with the new order or you retire to your basement and watch your TOS collection on VHS.

36. vystral - July 26, 2010

John de Lancie is such a charming actor. It pains me to think his final portrayal of Q was in a Voyager episode.

He could at least have some part in a new film. After all, he is omnipotent. He should be able to cross over into the alternate timeline just by snapping his fingers. This would be an interesting way to tie in the prime timeline.

37. cugel the clever - July 26, 2010

I think Q was a great character, as was Trelane from TOS who was probably also a member of the Q continuum. I see nothing wrong with recasting Q and including him in a future movie. I think that using Delancie in the role is a stretch and it should be someone closer in age to the new crew.

38. cugel the clever - July 26, 2010

#36

Good point, Q is able to traverse the alternate timelines – after all, he did just that in the TNG episode “Tapestry” in which he showed Picard how his life unfolds in an alternate universe. I would still have a problem with using Delancie as Q – Q should be able to take any form he wants, so it would make more sense for him to take a human form which is closer in age to the young Enterprise crew.

39. Jeyl - July 26, 2010

Uh, John, have you seen the work that is being done on Tron Legacy? We can fix that age thing. :)

And if there’s one thing I like more than a villain in a Star Trek film is an antagonist. Antagonists aren’t always the villains, they’re the elements of the story that cause the protagonists to go through change. Take Back to the Future for instance. Marty was for all intents and purposes the antagonist where as George was the protagonist. George was the character who went through the hero’s journey, while Marty simply gave him the push he needed. In the end, Marty doesn’t really change that much as a character (well, that is until the next two films).

Q was a fantastic antagonist. The stories involving conflict, realization and self-discovery that he brought to our characters are some of the best Star Trek stories ever offered. There is not one single thing about the character of Nero that I would say he did better than Q, because in the end, Nero was simply a one-shot plot device, not a character. Q was a character, and a classic one at that.

40. skip - July 26, 2010

so when is the series of next generation going to happen . we were all promised this and so fa it did not happen what the f*uck

41. Red Dead Ryan - July 26, 2010

As great a character as Q is, and as good a performance John DeLancie put in as Q, I don’t see him making an appearance in any of the next several movies. Its a different time and timeline. Q was Picard’s foil. Q didn’t match well at all with Sisko, and he just wasn’t as interesting when he appeared on “Voyager”. The thing is with Q, is that his fascination with humans is like our fascination with insects or small animals.

He was tough on Captain Picard because he wanted to see humanity succeed and overcome its challenges.

42. skip - July 26, 2010

starting a new next generation series on tv is the smartest thing this franchise can do. why abandon your most successful product?

43. Red Dead Ryan - July 26, 2010

#40

Hey Skip, did you happen to ’skip’ the last 23 years?

44. skip - July 26, 2010

no but i enjoy the best trek on tv every night on bbc . at least the british got it right

45. skip - July 26, 2010

next gen is an excellent show no matter how many times you watch the reruns……….the next generation was gene’s perfected trek everything he couldnt do in the original show, people liked genes vision of trek,and things went downhill withe darker and less positive versions after.

46. skip - July 26, 2010

ryan you are slow to respond. perhaps you have dial-up still

47. Red Dead Ryan - July 26, 2010

I love TNG as much as you do. The show was a huge success on tv (arguably more than TOS) during its run. There was a ton of merchandise and the conventions were TNG oriented. But after 3 more spinoffs, 4 TNG movies being a mixed success at best, people were tired of the current establishment. Its why they went back to TOS for the new movie. The franchise needed to be rebuilt, and the only way to do that was to reimagine and reboot the TOS characters. Going back to TOS reminds the mainstream of what got it all started. People stayed home rather than go see “Nemesis”. People got out of the house to see characters they hadn’t seen in 18 years.

48. Tux - July 26, 2010

Since Q can do whatever he wants, he could choose to appear in an older human body => Mr de Lancie could play Q in the sequels

49. skip - July 26, 2010

yes true ryan but we shouldnt lose next gen over one poorly written movie . or because of the massive failure of “enterprise”i hate to think that the fans got screwed because of bakula’s crappy acting.

50. skip - July 26, 2010

even the most hardcore trekker can admit that “enterprise” was pure crap… anyways i hope that the writers do add at least the “Q” and observe how quickly the twilight series went downhill and realize that the same story can get old very quickly. ryan I’d like to see a next gen / tos crossover and see it do just as well as a marvel comic movie does at the box office . to that we can all agree.

51. oogaboogawooga - July 26, 2010

49.
It wasn’t Bakula’s acting that killed Enterprise, it was the number of clunkers season 2 had. In the 2nd season of a television show, you are still establishing your following. A big number of clunkers does NOT help. TOS waited until the 3rd season to start pulling them out regularly, and they got 6 and a half movies.

52. Col.Tigh - July 26, 2010

Q could have made several apearances on Star Trek: Enterprise.
Take the crew on some crazy adventure then erase thier memories.

53. oogaboogawooga - July 26, 2010

50.
To quote a different sci-fi franchise, “many of the truths in our lives depend greatly on our point of view.” I don’t think ENT was pure crap. I will admit they had their fair share of clunkers, but so did TOS. To anyone who says ENT was pure crap, I repudiate you with episodes such as “Shuttlepod One,” “Detained,” “Stigma,” “Horizon,” “Similitude,” “The Forgotten,” “Demons” and “Terra Prime.”

54. skip - July 26, 2010

i thought dr flox was the only good thing about the show boogie.and that the engineer reminded me of george w. I didnt like the concept of a piece of junk enterprise and archer asking every alien he came across if he could make repairs to their ship.i thought the borg episode was really stupid and if archer came across the current borg he ‘d quickly have a lawn mower pull cord sticking out of the side of his head. lol dont get to pissed oogie

55. DaveK69 - July 26, 2010

Q was a good TV adversary that would not carry well to the big screen. Snapping fingers to make things happen is more “I Dream of Jeanie.” Q became very much the comedy act and less the adversary.

56. Jonboc - July 26, 2010

The character of Q wore out his welcome years ago as did the entire style of Berman’s version of Trek. The creatively bankrupt redundancy of the Berman Trek assembly line is what sank the franchise. That ship has sailed.

57. Ran - July 26, 2010

Q needs better writes than Orci / Kurtzman. They lack the wittiness that the character possess

58. Jack 2211 - July 26, 2010

11, 22, 56. Agreed. I’m a Q fan. I’m a TNG fan. But I don’t want to see all that again. It’s been done. It’s a darned big galaxy – let’s see something new. Roddenberry (well, except for the Naked Now) decided not to go back to the well for TNG.

Related to that. One thing the Star Wars flicks did well, generally, was create a really varied, exciting universe full of unique, truly alien cultures. Not to bash the TNG budget-mandated forehead aliens, or the attaching of an alien name to ordinary things “Thalian chocolate mousse, Alfarian hair pasta, Melvaran mud fleas, Tiberian bats etc.” (as opposed to banthas, mynocks or nerfs) or, finally, sets, costumes, “alien” animals (ordinary dogs pigs, livestock, monkeys) and props that were pretty similar no matter the location — but it would be nice to really see some new life and some strange new worlds.

TOS really conveyed, from the two pilots on, the sense that these characters were at home living and working with myriad alien species and cultures but still fascinated by new discoveries and new beings.

Trek 09 got it too. I’d like to see some more of that wonder.

59. Thomas Jensen - July 26, 2010

I like the thought mr. de lancie has put into his character; the ramifications of Q not being a villian, his aging and thus q’s. I mean, Q.

My deal with it would be, “well sure, here’s Q, but is he the guy who can change the original timeline and the fancy new timeline to somehow get Kirk living again.

See, it’s just one silly example, a reason why no Q nowadays.

Too much power in one being.

60. Kev - July 26, 2010

Hell with the aging thing, he’s always been a great actor and an interesting character regardless of how badly the writers botched his character (Q less, The Q and the Grey and Q2 Come to mind right off the bat, death wish was good thought)

so just have him say he’s going for a more mature look and that mating stuff from voyager was just a joke to throw off the humans interest in them and they really are still omnipotent.

althought I kinda agree with Ran there too…. its sort of the same issue with the sulu series, we need beter writers to do him justice

and since they werent kicked upstairs like gene was for ST2 I dont really have any faith in them since it seemed like St09 while Beautifuly directed left logic at the door towards the middle and seemed to me to be ST TMP 2 for the new age, after all it was the same circumstances.

no trek for 8 years being directed by someone with no experence with it, althought no brandon and braga is always a good thing.

61. Buzz Cagney - July 26, 2010

No thanks.

62. Youknowitstrue! - July 26, 2010

Make three “event” TNG films for TV, that could lead into a new series (new Trek show). Put Q in the last TNG film. This should be a no brainer.

63. Phobos - July 26, 2010

John de Lancie would be great for the next movie. He has a very intrgueing charisma that I find magnetic. I don’t see the aging as a problem. I would simply choose to ignore it, it is fiction.

64. Phobos - July 26, 2010

But… it would have to be the serious, powerful Q. The comical light Q in Voyager was excellent, but I prefer the thought provoking, sombre Q.

65. Captain Conrad - July 27, 2010

Hey man. Give Cryptic a call and voice STO’s Q

66. Lope de Aguirre - July 27, 2010

I always wished for Q in one of the TNG movies.
Most fitting in a final TNG film though.

I’m a big fan of Q but but he only really worked in the TNG episodes.
de Lancie had the best chemistry with Stewart and the chracter Q worked best with Picard.

So I realy like to see Q again but don’t think if he would work with the young TOS cast.

I hope for TV movies, TV show appearences (when is the new Trek show on?) or direct-to-video productions.
I would be all for a 24th century movie and if it isn’t solely a DS9 one Q will be a welcome guest for me.

67. John - July 27, 2010

Q should of been in TNG movies!

68. LordBridges - July 27, 2010

You know, today they can digitally make you younger. X-Men 3, Benjamin Button, TRON 2, and so on…

69. Trek Nerd Central - July 27, 2010

#15. Yes! I’ve often thought the new Trek should revisit proto-Q from “The Squire of Gothos.” De Lancie would be perfect as his daddy, or wise old uncle, or some such.

70. Horatio - July 27, 2010

If they ever decide to do a miniseries of DS9 or remnants of TNG in the Prime Universe for SyFy or some other cable channel it would be nice for a Q appearance.

But a theatrical release in the rebooted universe? Nah.

71. VGer23 - July 27, 2010

#22-

Maybe you “don’t think so,” but the people who are in charge of the franchise DO, and the majority of the audience DOES, so you’re out of luck I guess.

72. Crusade2267 - July 27, 2010

Q is my absolutely favorite recurring charicter. I love how he flashes in, everybody blames him for their troubles (why are you knocking that moon out of orbit, why are you throwing DS9 through the wormhole, etc.), and he just sits there and laughs until they finally figure out it isn’t him.

That said, Q is a 24th century charicter. It doesn’t make much sense to me to have him in the new movie series. And he would have to be introduced to everyone, because they couldn’t fall back on the old “we’ve hard about your appearences on the Enterprise” line.

73. Lore - July 27, 2010

#13 YES! Q fans should check out season 2 of Breaking Bad. His charactor is key to the season arc, but you don’t get it until the last few moments.

74. Ralph F - July 27, 2010

Delancie as Q with his son as Trelane. Genius!

75. trekreturns - July 27, 2010

Q: ‘What’s up with the timeline here?’ Snaps fingers, Prime timeline restored….

76. MikeTen - July 27, 2010

@75, Remember the Prime Timeline is still around, Spock and Nero fell into a alternate universe.
It would be nice if John De Lancie got a cameo in a new movie. He doesn’t have to say he’s Q, just maybe walk by or stand in the background of a scene.

77. njdss4 - July 27, 2010

I would love to see de Lancie in the next Star Trek movie, but not as Q. As de Lancie himself said, Q isn’t a villain and wouldn’t be able to hold up an entire movie, and to only put Q (the character) in as a cameo wouldn’t do justice to the character.

Let’s have de Lancie in the next Trek movie as a minor character, much like what Paul McGillion’s role was in the last movie.

78. Hat Rick - July 27, 2010

I think of Q as being a TNG character.

79. Shaun - July 27, 2010

“Let’s have de Lancie in the next Trek movie as a minor character, much like what Paul McGillion’s role was in the last movie.”

perhaps as the commander of starfleet.

80. Cygnus-X1 - July 27, 2010

I never understood the appeal of the Q character, though DeLancie played him just fine.

Being omnipotent and having no fixed code of ethics, the Q character’s behavior was completely arbitrary most of the time (with the notable exception of when he lost his powers). And arbitrary behavior is not compelling.

When you know that Q can snap his fingers and make all of the danger go away any time that he pleases, the whole situation just seems like a joke. Maybe Q will snap his fingers and make everything better, and maybe he won’t. Either way, the outcome of the situation is completely in Q’s hands, which makes the actions of all of the other characters (namely, our protagonists, the Enterprise crew) pretty much meaningless. Doesn’t matter what anyone does, really, because the outcome of the situation is ultimately decided by Q. And he only decides based on the whim of a spoiled brat, which is about as intriguing as…well, a spoiled brat.

I mean, the idea of a character who can do anything is pretty lame in and of itself, but if you’re set upon having such a character, at lease give him some interesting motivations and maybe some internal conflict. Something beyond the mindset of a child toying with his pet mice and a passing fancy as to whether he they deserve to be eradicated.

81. Cygnus-X1 - July 27, 2010

- he

82. P Technobabble - July 27, 2010

80. Cygnus

Yes.

83. A guy in Houston - July 27, 2010

I’ve always been a fan of Mr. de Lancie. He’s right though…his time has passed….and he was never a villian…more like a mischivious (sp?) imp!

84. ML31 - July 27, 2010

I was never a fan of the Q character to begin with. Although, a Q episode did provide the most amusing moment in the entire TNG series!

85. Horatio - July 27, 2010

#83 “Q… was never a villian.”

I don’t know about that. True, most of the episodes he appeared in he was mischievious but he did exhibit a serious darker more sinister side in both Encounter at Farpoint and All Good Things. Mankind was on trial via Capt Picarad and the crew of the Enterprise. Had they failed or disappointed the Continuum would Q have simply snapped his fingers and made humanity disappear? At least that was what was insinuated.

86. Pro-Khan-Sel - July 27, 2010

John is right, and Spiner is also right. and frakes knows it, and grace lee whitney was right back in 1991. The only one who dosen’t get it is levar burton, He has not aged.

I’m still up for an animated trek. That way everyone, (including the very aged) can be in the show. But I doubt shatner would participate.

87. Hat Rick - July 27, 2010

Agreed — Q appeared very ominous in “Encounter at Farpoint” and “All Good Things….”

Query, whether Q’s appearance as a quasi-malevolent entity entirely read to destroy humanity was simply part of the test.

Q is based, I think, partly on Loki, the Trickster God of lore, which means that pretty much nothing he says should be taken on face value.

That said, I’m not sure that the writers doubted whether Q would actually wipe humanity from existence when they wrote “Encounter,” as I’m not sure they had in mind that he would be recurring character. As far as I’m concerned, Q sure did seem ready to destroy humanity.

In a different way, however, the concept of a completely amoral omnipotent being who is willing to destroy the human race for its own reasons, or for no reason, is worthy of contemplation in itself.

The fact that Q could be reasoned with, especially in later Trek episodes (TNG, DS9, and VOY), in a way detracted from the initial concept. Although Q appeared to reacquire his malevolence during AGT, in this sense, the Q we saw in the first episode was not the same Q that appeared in those interim episodes.

So the question becomes: Who was the real Q?

88. Jorg Sacul - July 27, 2010

New series: John Cho as Captain Sulu of the Excelsior, and have John DeLancie play his recurring Klingon nemesis, Commander Khuew (but he’s actually Q in disguise)

Now, clean up your exploded heads and return to your previous arguments.

89. Horatio - July 27, 2010

#87 – Who was the real Q?

Agree. Q had become a sort of doofus during most of TNG’s run. And I could never understand why Janeway didn’t offer her body or something to him to get her crew back to the Alpha Quadrant. That whole episode made no sense to me. But I digress….

The writers starting using Q more for light hearted comic relief. Even in ‘Tapestry’, which is arguably one of the best TNG episodes, Q was still very light hearted. Other episodes though he got downright whiny.

I for one was happy to see the malevolent Q return in All Good Things. The test was never over. I just wish the writers wouldn’t have turned him into such a clown at times.

90. Roger - July 27, 2010

A Trek movie with “Q” would be a disaster!

I was never found of this “all powerful being” obsession with humans. It got boring very quickly.

No Q movies!

91. Chuck Watters - July 27, 2010

Q doesn’t have to be a villian to be in the next Trek .

92. Markus McLaughlin (Facebook) - July 27, 2010

The NEXT Trek TV Series should have a BRAND NEW Q popping in once a season, even though, it would be set in Abrams’ Alternate 23rd Century; I don’t care, Q fits in anything! ha ha!

Stop pestering me, you tiny insignificant insect! :P

93. Marc Henson - July 27, 2010

During Q’s early appearances I think he definitely was a villain, but as the various shows progressed, he became less of a villain all the time. He’s more like Mr. Mxyzptlk or Bat-Mite than he is Joker or Lex Luthor. He isn’t evil. He’s just kind of a pest.

He’s definitely a supervillain in the broadest sense, but he’s not really evil.

94. Marc Henson - July 27, 2010

Oh, and I don’t really think he should be in a movie. He just wouldn’t work as the villain. Maybe he could be a secondary character. That would be all right but not the main villain.

And it would have to John De Lancie. He could pop in to the third dimension after being in the Q continuum and see what’s up, and maybe he’ll be shocked by the change in the timeline. Being from a different continuum he shouldn’t be affected by the changes in the timeline and tThere could be references to Picard and the TNG crew. Maybe even flashbacks! (Or should I say flashforwards?!)

Him looking older would seem only natural, after all, his human appearance is just an appearance that Q chose for himself, so if he looked older it would only be natural I suppose.

I’m sure Abrams’ crew would be able to pull it off if they did it, as long as he wasn’t the main villain it would be fine. Anyway, that’s my ten cents!

95. Jesse - July 27, 2010

I would love to see de Lancie as Q, but if that wouldn’t work, I think Shatner would be good choice. Appearing to the young Captain Kirk looking like a much older Kirk seems like something Q might try as a joke, much like how he always wore a Starfleet uniform

96. Roger - July 27, 2010

Shatner as Q? Come on! haha

97. Hat Rick - July 27, 2010

Speaking of the next Trek TV series, isn’t it about time we hear vicious rumors about it? Yes, I realize we’re still obsessed about the next movie — and rightly so, by gum! — but still, we should be hearing some good buzz about CBS’ (or whoever owns TV Trek’s) much hoped-for decision to restart the whole Trek TV franchise thing. Regardless of whether said decision has actually, or ever will be, made.

Come on, CBS! Strike while the latinum’s hot! What are you waiting for? You have ABC on the ropes! You’re one of the two top networks for once! What are you waiting for — to be third or fourth again?

Let’s get with the program(ming)!

98. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - July 27, 2010

OMG a Q movie would be FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

99. jobryant100 - July 28, 2010

John de Lancie will alway be Eugene Bradford from Days of Our Lives to me.

100. Lore - July 28, 2010

BrainStorm! John de Lancie looks perfect for the new Harry Mudd!

101. Jason P Hunt - SciFi4Me.com - July 28, 2010

The relationship between Q and Trelane was already covered in Peter David’s book: Q-SQUARED.

Why are we so quick to accept going back to the same stories? Why can’t JJTrek tell anything original? And don’t tell me JJTrek09 had a plot. It didn’t. It was a contrived set of coincidences strung together with lots of energy and hype.

102. matthias wieprecht - July 28, 2010

Q on the big screen is great. A new actor or John de Lancie or how ever they would make it. I just do not understand why they have not used it in the next gen movies?

matthias

103. I WANT BIG BATTLES WITH MANY KLINGONS AND FEDERATION SHIPS WITH KLINGON THEME MUSIC! - July 28, 2010

I love the Q character, one of my favorite but he belongs to the TNG era as he also dabbled in DS9 and VOY. That character does not belong in the new movies, lets explore something new.

104. Jack 2211 - July 28, 2010

@88 – Heh. Can Shatner be in it?

105. Hiatas - July 28, 2010

Who says Q has to age? Have you seen the new Tron Legacy trailer? If the money’s behind the special effects, Mr. de Lancie can appear any age required by the script. Any age at all. So now that’s not an issue, would you please reconsider, Mr. de Lancie?

106. Kadratis Velevere - August 5, 2010

de Lancie has been quite the trooper. The Trek games put out in the 90’s had de Lancie reprising his role as Q (Star Trek: The Game Show “Synapses, we hardly knew you!” or Borg (’I'm sorry… he’s just too stupid to live.”) were quite a hoot. Especially his acting in Borg.


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