Comments on: Reminder: See Star Trek Generations w/ Dennis McCarthy Tonight in West LA

By: skyjedi

skyjedi — Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:45:33 +0000

To me this had the weakest script of any Star Trek movie, yes even worse than Star trek V.

By: Dom

Dom — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:26:29 +0000

Thing is, the Veridian aspect is lazy. Now, maybe if we’d had Soran attempting to launch his missile from the inhabited world as Picard and his team, along with people from that planet, tried to stop him, I could respect it. To give the Veridians’ plight any real resonance we needed to meet them. Y’know, show, don’t tell! But what we get is a cheap scene out of an old RKO serial on an uninhabited rock.

As for killing Kirk off: if you kill an icon, you kill him in the context of his own world. If Kirk had died in STVI, Bones and Spock trying to rescue him, fair enough. But to rope in the character for a glorified extended cameo being used as a bit of extra muscle in a spinoff of a spinoff show, then kill him is really . . . insulting!

Better would have been to end with Kirk alive wondering what to do in this new century all alone, only for him to turn around and see Spock, McCoy and Scotty standing there.

But we all know Ricky-boy wanted to bury Kirk and TOS!

By: Hat Rick

Hat Rick — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:03:06 +0000

Thanks, 87. Well, like 88, I enjoy Generations more and more as time goes by, as well.

By: Seany-wan

Seany-wan — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:32:18 +0000

Funny, as time goes by, I like this film more & more. Granted, the death if Kirk is unnecessary and weak, but it was an epic first outing for the new crew. The scenes with Picard and Kirk in the Nexus are (IMO), the best parts. I get somewhat teary eyed when your hear the music “The Nexus/A Christmas Hug” and Kirk walks over to the clock and says, “I gave this clock to bones.” It truly felt like the old crew had moved on.

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:57:06 +0000

To HatRick: I also went to the screenings for II, IV and VI. They were pretty much a full house. They also had Nicholas Meyer and original series guests. Maybe some people don’t care for the music guys or TNG movies in general. Dennis was one of my favorite guests.

By: Lore

Lore — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:10:00 +0000

#19 You leave Riker in charge for 5 minutes and the bridge has sunshine coming in through the roof. No wonder there’s no Titan show.

By: moauvian waoul

moauvian waoul — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:14:53 +0000

See off

By: moauvian waoul

moauvian waoul — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:12:15 +0000

81- I think what you say is true, though I have to mostly agree with Dom. Artistically speaking the latter films were by and large inferior ( with props to FC). I for one was glad to see the “D” destroyed. Always felt it was the mini-van of starships, unimaginative and wimpy. Didn’t think it worked or could ever work on the big screen, and still believe that’s why they got rid of it. As for Kirk’s death- I have mixed feelings. Though it was a lame way to see of the greatest captain of all, no one, no villan actually killed him. No one was bad ass enough to deliver the final blow, and it was a structural failure that did him in. I know, I know, I’m grasping at straws.

By: Horatio

Horatio — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:07:59 +0000

There are some great lines in this movie.

“Time is the fire in which we burn.” In fact, Soran’s whole speech to Picard about time – “the predator” was and still is pretty deep for those of us who are starting to feel the effects of time.

The Durass sisters were a kick. I thought they were great. Regarding Geordi: “He must be the only engineer in starfleet who doesn’t go to engineering!”.

Generations had some great moments. I liked the concept of the Nexus but the whole gotta-blowup-a-star system-to-get-back-in seemed really silly.

The greatest sin – Kirk’s death – wasn’t so much that he died as that it was such a weasly way to go for a great hero. Never kill an icon. They should have made his death more ambiguous so as to at least leave the possibility he is still out there somewhere.

By: Damian

Damian — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:42:49 +0000

#7–There was supposedly a 10 year gap between Star Trek V and VI. Still awfully young for a starship to be mothballed, which leads credence to the idea that the Enterprise-A was a recommissioned starship that already existed. Even the novels never really resolved this. Their were a number of novels that took place between V and VI though. The first Enterprise was 45 years old before being decommissioned.

#68–I think it can also be assumed the Enterprise was involved in other battles during the war. There were many fronts during the Dominion War, and it being as vast as it was, not all ships can be in all battles all the time.

I liked Generations. It was not the best of the movies, but I still enjoyed it. I don’t have a problem that Kirk died saving a race in the Veridian system that he never met. Starfleet officer swear to defend the innocent. However, I do agree with some of the detractors that the way his death is handled could have been better. Also, the Enterprise-D has always been my favorite and I never forgave them for destroying it (when Picard returned from the Nexus to stop Soran, I was kind of hoping they would find a way to save it). I would have gone to see all 11 if I didn’t live across the country. At the end of the day, either you like it or you don’t. I liked all 11 movies to varying degrees, and I always felt they all lived up to the Star Trek ideal at the end of the day (or movie if you will).

Star Trek really is the best. Their are fans that only like the original series and maybe the first 6 movies. Some fans only liked the later series, but not the original series or the new movie. Some fans only liked the new movie and what JJ Abrams brings to it. Still others are like me and like everything from “The Cage” to Star Trek (2009) and everything in between (including the books). If you get down to it, there is enough out there for everybody. We just need to respect each other’s right to like what part of Star Trek that we want and be happy that Star Trek is liked by so many.