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Spock Voted Favorite Alien – But Kirk 12th Favorite Hero? August 18, 2010

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Great Links,Trek Franchise , trackback

The venerable UK sci-fi magazine SFX is celebrating their 200th issue with a countdown of the top 200 sci-fi and fantasy characters based on polling from the magazine readers. They have released Top 20 polls in a number of categories, with Star Trek’s Mr. Spock coming out on top in the Favorite Alien list, but Captain Kirk is only 12th in the favorite hero list? More details below.

 

Spock the alien winner but Kirk not even in top 10 hero?

The poll of 6,000 readers from SFX breaks the top 200 sci-fi and fantasy characters into  10 categories, each with a top 20. Trek is applicable to six of the categories and comes out on top in one. Here is a breakdown of the categories applicable to Trek with the winners and highest ranked Trek character.

The results are interesting and it is nice to see Mr. Spock, Garak and others on the list get the votes (click the links to see even more Trek characters on the lists). It is true that you can certainly see a bit of UK bias in the results, but then again SFX is a UK mag. However, the Favorite Hero poll is most curious, here are the full results with Trek entries bolded:

FAVORITE HERO
1 The Doctor (Doctor Who)
2 Malcolm “Mal” Reynolds (Firefly)
3 Dean Winchester (Supernatural)
4 Miles Vorkosigan (Miles Vorkosigan books)
5 Ianto Jones (Torchwood)
6 John Crichton (Farscape)
7 Han Solo (Star Wars)
8 Samuel Vimes (Discworld)
9 Indiana Jones (The Indiana Jones movies)
10 Wesley Wyndham-Pryce (Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Angel)
11 Captain Jack Harkness (Doctor Who, Torchwood)
12 James T Kirk (Star Trek)
13 Jean-Luc Picard (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
14 Fox Mulder (The X-Files)
15 Sam Winchester (Supernatural)
16 Bill Adama (Battlestar Galactica)
17 Sam Beckett (Quantum Leap)
18 Sam Tyler (Life On Mars)
19 Number Six (The Prisoner)
20 Leonard McCoy (Star Trek)

Han Solo beating Kirk, I can see that happen sure. And with Kirk and Picard splitting the Trek vote, it is hard to compete against ‘The Doctor’ (who is one character with many actor incarnations).  But who the hell is Miles Vorkosigan? I demand a recount. Go to www.sfx.co.uk for the full results.

Vote Spock 2010

SFX is now holding voting online for the ultimate Sci-Fi and Fantasy character, choosing from the winners of each category. So that means Spock is going up against The Doctor, R2 D2 and the rest of them. Show your Trek love by voting for Mr. Spock at sfx.co.uk.


Vote Spock!

 

Comments

1. SoMuchCoolerOnLine - August 18, 2010

In my humble opinion (except for Spock, that is) the voters are off their collective rockers.

2. SirMartman - August 18, 2010

Of course Han Solo will beat Kirk,,,

Hans not very diplomatic and will shoot first !

3. Red Dead Ryan - August 18, 2010

Can’t believe Captain Kirk is all the way down at #12. And where is Captain Sisko? Gul Dukat? If Garak is on the list of ‘best alien’, Sisko and Dukat should be on the ‘best hero’ and ‘best villain’ list, respectively.

I like the fact that Data is #2 behind R2 D2. Nice to see Khan, the Borg and Guinan get some recognition, though I would have slotted them higher.

4. Red Dead Ryan - August 18, 2010

And its nice to see Dr.McCoy get some recognition as well. Too many times, when magazines mention TOS, they talk about Kirk and Spock, while forgetting about McCoy.

5. Captain Conrad - August 18, 2010

The Doctor? Really? Anthony, let’s do our own poll

6. A Kirk for the Rest of Us - August 18, 2010

What no Jack O’Neill or Teal’c? A travesty of justice I say!

7. A Kirk for the Rest of Us - August 18, 2010

Were any B5 characters in the list?

8. Cali - August 18, 2010

Well I agree it’s nice to see “Bones” up there but come on!! 3 & 4 *have* to be a joke! Seriously?

As for the vampires, “Angel AND Spike” would tie it for me!

*LOL* But what a hoot that John Crichton “Farscape” beat Hans Solo in “Star Wars!” Ohh! I love that one!!! =)

9. DJ Neelix - August 18, 2010

Nice to see Mal Reynolds on the list! And on 2nd even.

He’s way cooler than Capt Kirk.

10. CJS - August 18, 2010

Why the F#@% is Ianto Jones at number 5, ahead not only of Kirk and Picard but Capt. Jack? Clearly this audience for this poll preferred their heroes with an English accent.

11. Raktajino - August 18, 2010

Exactly, CJS (#10). Ianto? Ianto? Really? Most illogical.

12. Disinvited - August 18, 2010

I’m a bit confused. The favorite alien is listed here as “Mr. Spock (TOS)” which makes it pretty clear it is Nimoy’s Spock in the original series. But the entries for the heroes Kirk and McCoy don’t make it clear which versions were represented?

May be the UK source article clears this up?

13. Dio - August 18, 2010

Topher Brink as #2 favourite sage? Who the heck is he? I can see that this poll was invaded and occupied by Whedon enthusiasts.

14. Of Bajor - August 18, 2010

@10 Ianto Jones is actually Welsh not English :-)

15. Anthony Pascale - August 18, 2010

RE: TOS
well actually SFX use “Spock (Star Trek)” but they also use Nimoy’s picture. But like “The Doctor” the vote is for the character, not a specific incarnation. but if it is really all that confusing i will change TOS to ‘star trek’

16. Lore - August 18, 2010

Get back to us when an American pole is taken.

17. Andy Patterson - August 18, 2010

@2

Kirk once stated, he’s a soldier, not a Diplomat. I go with Kirk any day.

18. Vultan - August 18, 2010

It’s really no surprise Doctor Who takes the #1 spot in a UK magazine. Under British law, if one of the Queen’s subjects doesn’t vote for the Doctor in a sci-fi poll, Prince Charles will come to your home and stick his feet in your shepherd’s pie (which ironically has been known to improve the flavor).

Just a little known fact.

19. robowarrior - August 18, 2010

Kirk for sure. Sisko deserves to be on there too though.

Garak is the best alien ever. Hell, he’s my favorite Star Trek character period. Other than McCoy. But you know.

20. Electron - August 18, 2010

What!! no Predator. C’mon. He’s my hero.

21. Dopplerganger - August 18, 2010

This is a Brit poll and skewed to the Dr. Who nonsense. The poll is bollocks.

22. Dee - August 18, 2010

SPOCK and KIRK ……EVER !!!!!

23. Pointing out the Obvious - August 18, 2010

Theres a good reason The Doctor is #1… Its a British Site, and The Doctor is a british science fiction character, who is only now becoming popular in North America.

Had this poll been made aware of to a North American audience, the picks would have been much much different

24. StarFuryG7 - August 18, 2010

As the article points out, it’s a UK poll, so I can only take the results so seriously since clearly they have a preferential bias, though it is nice to see Spock come out on top in spite of that bias.

25. nonymoose - August 18, 2010

The Doctor is perfectly understandable as #1. But the fact that a main character off ‘Supernatural’ made the list over Kirk, Picard, Bones, Han Solo, Indiana Jones, etc, etc, automatically makes this poll null and void for me… seriously. I’m surprised there’s no Jacob or Edward on there, if you’re going to go the eye candy route.

26. S. John Ross - August 18, 2010

Their top two would probably be my top two as well, though my mind screams at the notion of choosing one over another.

Sam Vimes and Han Solo are another close pair … I might edge Vimes over Solo just a tad, and push ‘em both closer to the top …

Number Six would probably be my #3 pick a few years ago, but like Kirk, his awesomeness has recently been stained by a cheap re-imagining.

So Leonard McCoy would edge him out; I’d bump him up sixteen or seventeen spaces :)

And then, of course, there’d be all those heroes that aren’t on this list at all, edging out most of them that are (but I still agree with their top 2).

27. Disinvited - August 18, 2010

#15.

Thanks for the answer, Anthony. I figured someone here would know it and answer faster than it would take me to dig this out of that site:

“(And remember, you are voting for the characters AS A WHOLE, in all their various incarnations, not just, for example, Matt Smith as Doctor Who or Christopher Lee as Dracula – the pics are just there as a guide and to stop the page looking dull.)”

28. Disinvited - August 18, 2010

#26.

What does your mind do at the notion that only the top one is in contention for the favorite character of all time?

29. John from Cincinnati - August 18, 2010

The British also have bad teeth, what would they know about heroes?

James T. Kirk is the greatest #1 hero!

30. Shunnabunich - August 18, 2010

Maybe Kirk was #2 or #3 until Nu-Kirk’s douchebaggery kicked him down the list? :P

31. Vultan - August 18, 2010

#29

Bad teeth, maybe, but many a hero and legend has walked that island—King Arthur, Robin Hood, Richard the Lionheart, Guy Fawkes (well, arguably an anti-hero), Winston Churchill, Eric Clapton, John Cleese, etc., etc…

32. Balok - August 18, 2010

UK Survey… that’s why…

Interesting they picked that annoying Buck Rogers robot over Gort. At least Robot B-9 faired better…

33. John in Canada, eh? - August 18, 2010

We can take some solace in that Guinan is #17 on the list of favourite sage – and Yoda didn’t make the cut! Guinan before Yoda; didn’t think that would happen.

34. JP Saylor - August 18, 2010

Top Heroes In Sci-Fi:

1- ALL THE MAIN CHARACTERS IN STAR TREK

imho

35. Sybok - August 18, 2010

IANTO is #5 and JAMES T. KIRK, the Sci-Fi hero, is #12?!?!?!? You’ve got to be fracking kidding me!!!!!!!!! KIDS TODAY!!!!!!!!!

36. Sybok - August 18, 2010

EDIT: JAMES T. KIRK, the Sci-Fi hero ARCHETYPE…

37. S. John Ross - August 18, 2010

#28: ” What does your mind do at the notion that only the top one is in contention for the favorite character of all time?”

My mind is content to blame FOX :)

38. S. John Ross - August 18, 2010

#35: Dude, some of us still start lip-quivering and sniffling just barely beginning to remember what happened to poor Ianto :( Sympathy vote, man!

39. Magic_Al - August 18, 2010

Spock is a unique creation. Kirk is a conventional leading man transplanted to a unique setting. In many ways Spock is Star Trek even if no other elements are present. Kirk in isolation is William Shatner playing a hero, which is not unique to Star Trek.

40. Spectre_7 - August 18, 2010

This article should be renamed to: UK Poll

I know very few ppl on this side of the Atlantic (Canada, particularly) that have the slighest clue what Dr. Who is

“Wasn’t that a James Bond movie?”

41. Kenji - August 18, 2010

The article states that this is a poll based in the UK.
I don’t see why there has to be a whole lot of racial bashing here…

42. Vultan - August 18, 2010

Well, here in the States Dr. Who is known thanks to PBS and BBC-America, but he doesn’t nearly have the following like in the UK. My dad, a red, white & blue Oklahoma cowboy, sometimes talks fondly of watching Dr. Who and Benny Hill on PBS in the ’70s, but, of course, he’s a much bigger Star Trek fan, having watched it since ’66.

43. Buzz Cagney - August 18, 2010

Yep, I’m afraid there is a large streak of snobbery against Star Trek still here in the UK. Even after all these years I still expect some ribbing when I hold my hand up to being a Trek fan.
uite how that explains Spock coming in first though I’m not too sure!

#29 its good that you don’t fall back on ancient stereotypes. Perhaps the glint off your ridiculosly white teeth is blinding you to reality.

44. Vultan - August 18, 2010

#41

I don’t think the people of the UK would be considered a race. I’d say it’s more like nation-bashing going on around here, though I’m sure the British people could never be accused of doing the same (nudge-nudge, wink-wink, say no more…)

45. StarFuryG7 - August 18, 2010

#42. Vultan
>>Well, here in the States Dr. Who is known thanks to PBS and BBC-America<<

You forgot the SyFy Channel, formerly back then the Sci Fi Channel, which aired its first few seasons before it ended up at BBCA, where it now airs in a much more timely fashion compared to when they get to see the new eps in the UK, and when we used to get to see it in contrast when it was airing on SFC instead (the airing gap was considerably larger back then).

46. Captain Common Sense - August 18, 2010

lol Loving all the ‘its a UK poll’ arguments…that’s why Doctor Who is also in the Guinness Book of WORLD records as the longest-running science fiction television show in the world, and as the “most successful” science fiction series of all time, in terms of its overall broadcast ratings, DVD and book sales, iTunes traffic, and “illegal downloads.

47. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - August 19, 2010

John Crichton @ #6? A one-trick pony has more variety than that hacktor.

48. Phaser Guy - August 19, 2010

Dr. Who number one? Is that a UK poll?

49. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - August 19, 2010

Who is number one?
You are number 19.

Doesn’t have the same ring to it….

50. NickM - August 19, 2010

The Doctor, I’d agree … and I’m not British.

C3PO was always undervalued.

51. Holger - August 19, 2010

I like this poll! Of course I have just voted for Spock as favorite SF character … and that’s because he actually IS my favorite SF character.
In the heroes list I would have included Roj Blake and Aragorn. And what about McCoy? Come on! I mean I love the Bones character, much more than Kirk, but Bones isn’t exactly your hero character, isn’t he? He should be included in the sages, mentors, etc., just like Dr. Franklin.

52. Schiefy - August 19, 2010

I think it is not only a UK poll but a generational poll–seems like the heroes list is made up of characters more familiar to a younger generation than say, a generation that grew up during the TOS era (myself included).

Who knows, maybe the “Baby Boomers” might have made TJ Hooker #1 on the list. :)

53. FintheDjinn - August 19, 2010

Did I miss something or was there no mention of Professor Quatermass? He was only instrumental in saving Earth on four occasions. — Fin

54. Disinvited - August 19, 2010

#37.

What a marvelous double entendre. You could be either blaming FOX’s WHO for elevating that character to number one or FOX’s handling of FIREFLY for sinking Reynolds to number two. Or both at the same time!

55. Ashley - August 19, 2010

I’m glad Mal, John Crichton, and the Doctor were in the top 10 but I think Kirk, Adama, Captain Jack should have been up there too. I mean, it IS a list of ‘Hot Sci-fi Heroes’ right?! xD

56. captain_neill - August 19, 2010

Gul Dukat should be down as one of the top 5 villains, he was such a brilliant character.

57. TonyD - August 19, 2010

My favorite robot would definitely be Robby from Forbidden Planet. The old classics need more love.

58. Kirk, James T. - August 19, 2010

Your never going to get Kirk at number one or in the top 10 after 1 revival movie – come back to this after perhaps a trilogy and we’ll see if Star Trek has managed to have lasting appeal from this new era – Kirk is exactly where I’d expect kirk to be for a 60′s TV hero.

Spock is a bit of a surprise – must mean that there aren’t many memorable alien characters out there at the moment but – wouldn’t Doctor Who class as an alien? strange.

Maybe it’s fixed to some degree.

59. boxker - August 19, 2010

Dr. Who! YUCK!

60. Cara King - August 19, 2010

> > But who the hell is Miles Vorkosigan?

Miles Vorkosigan is the hero of a great series of books by Lois McMaster Bujold, winner of a huge number of Hugos, Nebulas, etc. He’s an amazing character — just read “The Warrior’s Apprentice” and see if you don’t agree…

61. Agent 47 - August 19, 2010

29. John from Cincinnati – August 18, 2010
The British also have bad teeth, what would they know about heroes?

More than you obviously do ¬¬ i seem to recall some one-eyed one armed Admiral whooping the French & Spaniards in 1806, then some dude who thought it a cool idea to launch a Charge at Balaclava, then there’s a General called Monty in WWII, and some fat bloke called Churchill, a geezer called Wellington……Yep the Brits know nothing about heroes >>

@31 Vultan, The only crime Guy Fawkes committed was the fact he got caught lol As it is he failed miserably to do the job in hand. EPIC Fail :D

As for the poll in this UK mag, it is indeed questionable at best, Spock however normally does reasonably well in such polls. IMO the UK is stupidly more into Star Wars than Star Trek, having said that though, the polls are not representative of the nation as a whole. I doubt every UK citizen buys that particular mag :D

It is not right to judge an entire nation based on the select mindless halfwits who voted,the poll is indeed slanted towards the brainless.

62. DavidCole - August 19, 2010

As an equal fan of “Star Trek” and “Doctor Who”, I totally agree about Kirk’s position, but why the hell is everyone so shocked about the Doctor winning a *UK* poll of the greatest SF heroes? He is an iconic SF character and a mainstream British institution who’s been around since 1963 (longer even than “Star Trek”). Just accept that this is bound to have a UK bias – not that it is necessarily a “bias” as such, but more to do with what people here are familiar with and relate to. He was included in the vote as a collective character, not any one incarnation, which is perfectly possible as, like James Bond, there are strong archetypal character traits that have been consistent throughout each version of him.

That said, I’m astounded at the relatively low position of the “Star Trek” characters, Spock excepted. I’m an SFX reader but I didn’t vote in this poll. Now I wish I had (although the good Doctor still would have won ;))! I’d have expected Kirk at Number 2, and Picard to make the Top 10 as well.

#29, *If* you were being serious (and it’s a tired and unfunny generalisation if you weren’t), cut the “bad teeth” crap and take note of certain wise words from your hero in a certain classic SNL sketch… SF fans can take things far too seriously.

63. Pro-Khan-Sel - August 19, 2010

Tom baker is my favorite doctor.I wouldn’t bother with dr.who otherwise.
as a matter of fact, I can’t recall one episode of any of the dr. who’s that I’ve watched.

64. GarySeven - August 19, 2010

Captain Kirk deserves to be #1. He draws upon both logic and emotion in making decisions (hence Spock and McCoy as his advisors) and integrates them into effective, thoughtful action. He is both decisive yet wise, not usually impulsive nor overly analytical. He is strong, never afraid to act, but his actions are always based in compassion.
Han Solo? Fun, and a character who deserves to beat Kirk in the rankings- if you are twelve.

65. Iowagirl - August 19, 2010

I wonder whether Kirk would have been further up that list if the poll had been done before the new film…After all, the poll was about heroes, not about some jerks with bad pick-up lines getting beaten up at every opportunity.

66. TOY - August 20, 2010

Interesting article, nice to see countries view of what they enjoy. I wouldn’t put the list in that order of status but then again my view is not to say it’s a better one. Thanks for the article, other countries views probably differ somewhat be great to see more, but probably not a good idea on forums where a few end to end up bashing an entire country for a poll lol and then theres the reactions and urgh, that works both ways it more individuals but it makes unfortunate reading and wish some progressed a little further than that.

67. Kirk's Girdle - August 20, 2010

@ #29 Brit’s with bad teeth? Gotta love stereotypes…Like the idea Americans are fat, lazy and stupid. Ooooh that’s why Kirk is number 12….

68. Steve - August 20, 2010

Okay three-way hand to hand fight, who would win?

Mal Reynolds vs Capn Kirk vs Han Solo

Only certain loser I’d say would be Kirk- hardly the perfect picture of martial arts when he took on the Gorn? :p

69. DanJack - August 20, 2010

I never understood all the Mal Reynolds. He was at best a poor Han Solo imitation (or more appropriately Dante Montana who he was reipped off of) and at worst an befuddled moron who couldn’t get the job done.

Kirk is way better than Mal. I can see how no one can beat The Doctor for sheer logevity, but come on…

I do like that Teal’c from SG-1 made the top 10, but most of the list is just bonkers.

70. 16309A - August 20, 2010

Captian Jack over Kirk? Ianto over Kirk? Really?

I realize where this poll was taken, but those guys over Kirk?

In what situation would you want Capt. Jack or Ianto over Kirk?

71. Disinvited - August 20, 2010

#68.

That depends. Are we considering only the fighting moves exhibited on screen by the actors playing those roles or are we including their stunt doubles’ moves as well?

72. S. John Ross - August 20, 2010

#67: “Brit’s with bad teeth? Gotta love stereotypes…Like the idea Americans are fat, lazy and stupid.”

HEY. Americans are NOT lazy!

Otherwise, carry on :)

73. spockatatic - August 20, 2010

I have to agree with the Doctor Who themed ones, including Ianto and Jack (though I am a little surprised Ianto made it that high) just because they are all absolute badasses. And Han Solo, yeah. But still, Kirk was awesome too. He should have been waaaaay higher up. And McCoy! McCoy needs to be just underneath him, not Picard. Picard’s okay, but McCoy can own him any day, sorry.
As for the aliens, WHOO HOO SPOCK. And Garak. And Teal’c FOR THE WIN. Though I am disappointed Gul Dukat didn’t make the top villains list, because he was awesome. But I do agree that The Master should definitely be top villain, especially with Simm.
And before anyone shoots me down for being a ‘biased Brit’, I’m Canadian. I’m basically neutral in both arguments. I love most SF.

74. Holger - August 25, 2010

Spock came in second after the Doctor.

75. Cara - May 3, 2011

It’s great to see Spock voted as number 1 alien. He’s a great character. I’m also glad to see Kirk and Picard in best hero list – although a bit down – and most of all McCoy. Data voted as number 2 robot is amazing! Also it gives me great plesure to see that Garak, Jadzia Dax and Gul Dukat are all included in the list of best alien, they are my absolute favorites in DS9, but I’m socked not to see Worf in the list. I also expected Dukat to be in best vilain list as well.

76. DartVader - May 19, 2011

There is a sad lack of Star Trek characters. If I’m not mistaking only Spock Data, Kirk, Picard, McCoy, Kahn, Garak, Jadzia Dax, Dukat, EMH, Guinnan and Neelix made it to the list. I’m suprised there is no Worf, I love the guy!

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