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John Billingsley Talks Playing Phlox Again & Critiques Enterprise Finale August 19, 2010

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John Billingsley spent four years aboard the NX-01 as Dr. Phlox in Star Trek: Enterprise. And in a new fan Q&A, the actor says he is ready to play Phlox again, as well as weighs in on the controversial finale for the series. Excerpts below
 

 

Billingsley on returning to Trek & Enterprise Finale

The actor is open to it, but doesn’t expect he will ever play the Enterprise doctor again, saying:

I’d be delighted. But is there any chance that one could make a wager on the odds of it happening? I’d bet my house it won’t happen, but if it did, sure, I’d want to be involved. I enjoyed playing Phlox.


John Billingsley doesn’t expect to return to the role of Dr. Phlox

Billingsley also weighed in on the controversial final episode for Star Trek Enterprise "These are the Voyages" noting that he understood why Rick Berman and Brannon Braga wanted to write something that wrapped up the era from Next Gen to Enterprise, but he felt it didn’t work with the work being done by Manny Coto (showrunner for the 4th season), noting:

It was as if suddenly somebody from another cosmos dropped in and wrote the script, above and beyond the fact that the Enterprise’s story was swallowed up by the framing device. I think people had just gotten used to Manny’s voice. I missed it in the final episode. Frankly, it should have been a two-parter. Our storyline needed to wind up…

I’m all over the map on this one because I have a lot of different feelings about it. My problem with the final episode, ultimately, was that by jumping ahead however many years we jumped ahead, it was as if anything we did in the third and fourth seasons had no real weight. It seemed like the third and fourth seasons were being dismissed, which I’m sure was not the intention, but that was one of the things that bothered me.


Billingsley with Jolene Blalock and Scott Bakula in one of last scenes of "These are the Voyages" – actor critical of how series ended

For more fan Q&A with Billingsley, check out Part 1 & Part 2 at startrek.com.

 

Comments

1. Silicon Avatar - August 19, 2010

These Are the Voyages… was terrible.

2. =A= - August 19, 2010

me first!
i wonder if true Enterprise season 5 coming back?

3. Daoud - August 19, 2010

Note to boborci… Dr. Phlox is one Star Trek: Enterprise character that makes sense in 2258. Denobulans can be long-lived, Billingsley was great in the role, the priced tags of special effects of the smile, and the puffer face tie in nicely with the price tags on the CGI you did on the Kelvin doctor. Easily written in any number of situations… with McCoy at a medical conference, called in to assist, doing psychological studies of Kirk’s crew, treating his former patient Porthos upon Mr. Scott recovering said beagle!

Also, with Vulcan wiped out… Denobulans could play a larger role in this version of the UFP, as they could be postulated reasonably as a whole world of scientists and medicos, a la Medecins Sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders).

That is all.

4. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - August 19, 2010

What I would love to see is for Enterprise to be brought back and go into season 5 but make it more about the Romulan Wars and the founding of the Federation. Either Get Manny Cotto to do it and or have J.J Abrams jump onto this project and make it a great Trek Series. As far as These are the Voyages go. Well. I see it just like the Shower Scene in Dallas. It did not happen.

5. The First Son of Krypton - August 19, 2010

Phlox was terrific… in all honesty if I think about it, there isnt a Cheif Medical Officer whom I dislike in any Star Trek

Save Dr Pulaski… she was awful, which was no fault of Diane Muldur dont get me wrong :-)

6. Losira - August 19, 2010

The Ent. Finale was just a bummer! I cannot and will not accept tucker’s death! It was plain wrong! But again we saw the holideck version of said mission which realy cannot be totaly truth so tospeak and again there are always possibilities…a very wise Shat pointed out. Trip @ T’Pol probebly lived out their lives on some lovely planet in voluntary obscurity…and I’m. Sticking to this story!!

7. Dac - August 19, 2010

Like I said in another thread a while back, If i had the magic Hollywood card, Enterprise would be the show i’d pick to come back from TV heaven.

It would start with a disclaimer, explaining that TATV was all a horrible dream Porthos had after eating too much cheese.

8. Simon - August 19, 2010

#3 – That’s a great idea to get Phlox into the new era of TREK.

I liked Phlox, his undying optimism even in the face of certain defeat encapsulated what STAR TREK is all about.

9. Third Remata'Klan - August 19, 2010

Oh, my god.

Is boborci listening to #3??

:-)

Meanwhile, I loved Enterprise in general and Phlox in particular. Man, I miss that show…

10. Danpaine - August 19, 2010

John Billingsley has been a real hoot on True Blood, but with all respect to #3, that’s where he should stay.

11. Captain Conrad - August 19, 2010

If the show is brought back, the last episode needs to be counted as uncannon.

12. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - August 19, 2010

John did a great job on the Eps In a Mirrior Darkly. His line to the Tholien Would you please just Die was just great. I hope that J.J and Bob orci and the Court would find a way to bring back Enterprise.

13. Starkiller - August 19, 2010

Phlox would be an ideal character to have appear in ST XII. But ideally I (and a ridiculous number of other people Paramount) would like an Enterprise miniseries/TV movie to properly conclude it.

14. Horatio - August 19, 2010

Tripp’s death was so completely unnecessary and pointless. It turned the episode from having our faces jammed into horseshit to having to eat it too.

Somebody tell me…. how is it a valentine to the fans when you kill off one of the more popular characters – and for no reason other than the writers saying “hey, lets kill Trip for the hell of it!”.

I will never understand it. Stupid.

15. Torcflaed - August 19, 2010

11, the show could be brought back and everything in the final episode kept as cannon, the thing to remember is every Enterprise scene in the final episode is a Holodeck historical document !
and we all know history can be full of errors, or intentinally rewritten.
in the old saying goes, the rumors of Trips death may be mistaken.
I have not read them but I understand that in the books Trip joined a secret service and his death was faked.
to sum up, the final episode of Enterprise was in fact an episode of Next Generation and every Enterprise scene may be a historically inacurate Holodeck simulation.

16. Kweeg - August 19, 2010

Plolox, Nelix done right. Much the same way Decker and Ilia were transmogrified into Riker and Troi.
Bilingsley was one of the few consistent high points in ENT, which eventually caught up to his caliber in season 4…

17. Philip Dunlop - August 19, 2010

5. I agree. ‘Trek always had a way of having strong doctor characters! Though I personally liked Pulaski (possibly even more than Crusher, though I like how they developed her character – stupid Scottish episode notwithstanding – in the latter years of the TNG series). She was chalk to Crusher’s cheese. Abbrasive, opinionated and still with a heart of gold. She was, for all intents and purposes, a reincarnation of McCoy.

Billingsley’s Phlox was another great character I though, probably one of the stronger ones in Enterprise. Even by Star Trek standards he seemed alien (at least, culturally). And I like the idea #3 had of introducing the Denobulans as the next-best thing to Vulcans. A lot of the groundwork has been laid.

As for Billingsley’s portrayal – he always made it seem so effortless. Despite being alien, he had a very natural way about him, and seemed like a very warm and personable character. An old country doctor type, I suppose. And different from the previous mold of Star Trek doctors (McCoy/Pulaski, who I discussed, Crusher, who was very clean-cut, Bashir, who started young and naïve and developed into a hot-shot frontier, front-line doctor, and the holographic Doctor, who kinda took up the Data mantle).

18. J.R.Q - August 19, 2010

The real last episode of Enterprise was the two part story Demons&Terra prime.

19. CaptainDonovin - August 19, 2010

I too loved Enterprise, I just felt they got screwed in their finale being basically the B-side of the story, the main part being Riker & Troi. It should have been a two parter that mentioned the Romulan War & how difficult that was to them. It should have also showed the speech Archer gave.

The best part of the Episode was the end when we got to see beauty shots of the three ships.

As for Phlox I wish we had been able to see Denobula & the rest of his wives.

20. Pro-Khan-Sel - August 19, 2010

I liked polaski, She had lot of dr. mcoy in her character..loathing of transporters, outwardly skeptical of command decisions, Her getting to know data was fun. “It does know how do do this right?” “mr. data knows exactly what he is doing.”

Even though I didnt really like enterprise, I loved phlox in “a mirror darkly” as well as the rest of the alternate universe counterparts. I wish upon wish that “Enterprise” would have stayed in the mirror universe. This situation would have drawn non- enterprise fans to the show..like me.

21. crazydaystrom - August 19, 2010

In another place at another time (and with another actor) I probably would’ve hated Phlox, but I loved the guy.

“The smile” creeps me out though. :-))

22. Allen Williams - August 19, 2010

Unfortunately at this point in time reviving enterprise is unlikely. Its just been too long. There is a possibility that I can think of. They could bring it back as a mini series. Hopefully the final episode of which would undo some of the damage to “these are the voyages”. Since that episode was filmed far in the future from the actual events, there is no reason why the truth could have been classified or twisted or something. Either way I would love to see the show again. Can’t wait for the blu-rays to come out.

23. Jeff O'Connor - August 19, 2010

Bob Orci,

If you happen to read this, I’d like to mention that I loved the Archer reference in Trek ’09. You’ve done your bit to make nods to the past, but if you guys are considering throwing either Phlox or T’Pol in for a cameo in the next movie, DO IT. A lot of people weren’t keen on Enterprise, but a lot of people were — and recently, as the years have passed since the finale, it seems like more and more folks are discovering that there were, in fact, some good elements to that series.

I had a thought just last night that T’Pol shows up briefly as one of the Vulcans who have established a leadership position in a new colony world. These things are easy to work into scripts from what my amateur studies can ascertain: “This is T’Pol. She has been orchestrating much of the rebuilding of our way of life.” “Please, Spock, you flatter me. I am merely following the most logical course in these dark times.”

24. Jordan - August 19, 2010

damn damn damn damn I want Enterprise to continue… depression is now kicking in.

25. spike - August 19, 2010

Come on syfi…how about a season five

26. Torcflaed - August 19, 2010

how about this, the new calander has a good start on the next generation NX ship, why not a new series based after the NX enterprise with a nearly new crew, but keep Phlox and T’Pol

27. Terran_Guy - August 19, 2010

I would love a Season 5, it was really starting to get somewhere under Coto and then boom it died and had to end with the ever awful TATV. Though the book that retold it was awesome.

28. Torcflaed - August 19, 2010

if they ever bring it back, PLEASE no time travel
and Orci, please stick to your statments about no time travel in future new trek movies

29. Rhett Coates - August 19, 2010

#23 — I AGREE: and have Archer (ADMIRAL) on hand to witness Scotty’s attempt to bring his latest incarnation of PORTHOS back from the transporter’s great beyond….

And yeah, let them have AT LEAST a Season Five — maybe this time they’ll have a good enought viewership to generate seasons beyond, to show the Earth-Romulan war era….

30. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - August 19, 2010

Hey Bob Orci. Here is a great project for you and the court. Bring Back Star Trek Enterprise.

31. Gornorrhea - August 19, 2010

I assume all of these actors realize that they’re never going to play these roles again.

32. Losira - August 19, 2010

#15 that’s just about what I said holodecks can be fabricated. Or error. I read a fan site that trip did section 31 a stint of some sort . And had to be legaly dead. So syfy. Clean up your act and do season 5 like everyone else saysaid. And in regard to phlox was wonderful. I loved his warm wit and charm. I good bedside manner. Wish my Dr. Had those qualities. Phlox are you taking any new patience!

33. Browncoat1984 - August 19, 2010

What they should have done is had the Enterprise finale be a two part episode for Enterprise. Then, sometime during the summer/christmas done a big minieries ala Farscape: The Peacekeeper Wars that would combine all the crews similar to what happened with Destiny. In fact, maybe they could have done a similar story that would finally take care of the Borg, pick up after Voyager, etc. That would have been so much better and would have been a REAL valentine to the fans. Either way, I felt that Star Trek 2009 was more of a valentine than the pos Enterprise finale.

34. Torcflaed - August 19, 2010

how about a new angle?
Phlox as captain of a medical ship travelig around and dealig with unusual medical problems.
Admiral archer can make cameo aperiances and other members of the crew can be crew members of the new ship

35. ChristopherPike - August 19, 2010

*sniff*

Largely great while it lasted.

I deliberately stopped watching reruns of Enterprise these past six months or so. I was borderline obsessed with it. Then caught myself randomly watching a late night repeat on some obscure channel. There was literally nothing else on worth watching! It was even mid-Season 2 show.

Damn it! I weakened… I’m only human.

36. Torcflaed - August 19, 2010

the series really should have been about the romulan wars leading up to star trek TOS
be a bit more difficult but it could even have been done without eather side ever seeing the other just like they said in the TOS

37. michaela - August 19, 2010

and again..BRING BACK ENTERPRISE!!

38. New Horizon - August 19, 2010

@Bob Orci-

Regarding Enterprise. I too would love to see an Enterprise Mini series to properly wrap up the show. Seasons 3 and 4 were excellent, some of the best Trek in years.

Since Enterprise occurs before the prime universe is split off into your new universe, there would be no conflicts.

Surely, if anyone could put a word in to make it happen…I trust you and your team could do it. :) I really want to see the NX-01 get her refit on screen.

http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=drexfiles.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdrexfiles.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F08%2Funtitled-11.jpg&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fdrexfiles.wordpress.com%2F

http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2011sotl_drexler_r021.jpg?w=655&h=333

39. John in Canada, eh? - August 19, 2010

As someone already mentioned, a T’Pol cameo would work in the next movie as well…

40. Doug Skywalker - August 19, 2010

@4: Capt Mike – that’s a wonderful idea! maybe they could adapt and film ‘The Good That Men Do’ as a mini-series or something, and continue onward from there! that would REALLY send the Season 4 finale through a loop, as well as actually make it relevant. also, to see some DS9 characters again would be sweet!

41. Jordan - August 19, 2010

Romulan war mini series with the nx01 crew and other ships, politics, civilian and media perspectives (like the book) would be awesome.

42. Spocko - August 19, 2010

It was good as a TNG episode, but rather lacking as a finale for ENT.

43. "Check the Circuit!" - August 19, 2010

If The Powers That Be finally decided to bring Trek back to weekly TV, you seriously think they’d pick the least successful of the series as the vehicle? You know… the first one since 1969 to be cancelled because of low ratings.

Don’t think so.

44. thebiggfrogg - August 19, 2010

7. Hey I’m from Wisconsin don’t blame it on cheese!

45. thebiggfrogg - August 19, 2010

Re: 38 url 1

Looks like the Enterprise got stranded on Planet Woody.

46. The Bear - August 19, 2010

I wish I had Phlox as my real doctor. I seriously need some osmotic eel treatments.

McCoy and Phlox are the top Chief Medical Officers in Trek history, IMHO. The others just didn’t stand out like these two have. I’d love to see Phlox in the new JJ Trek movie.

47. Odkin - August 19, 2010

Billingsley as Harry Mudd!

48. Shat Hands - August 19, 2010

I’d love to see a new Trek series, a continuation or otherwise but I cannot see it happening in the near future.

There is money in movies and the success of the most recent film, i fear, has left a TV series in limbo for the time being.

The finale of Enterprise sucked balls. An insult to everyone that worked hard to be the foundation of legends and still be original and even exciting at times!

On Billingsley, I thought he inhabited a truly unique character and was one of the quirkier Trek actors. Phlox and T’pol’s relationship always carried a hint of The Doctor and Seven for me but it never got tiresome, and I think that was down to the actors.

Rehash old plots/arcs= fine if you have the staff!

49. Earthman Jim - August 19, 2010

The last episode of Enterprise wasn’t an Enterprise episode, it was a TNG episode. The whole “Enterprise” part of it took place on the holodeck of the Enterprise D. I was very dissappointed in this Episode. No offense to the TNG crew, but they should not have been in this Episode. It should have been strictly an Enterprise episode.

50. Stan Winstone - August 19, 2010

Yeah I wouldn’t bet my house on that…

51. andrew - August 19, 2010

I’m sorry, but a lot of these comments are just crazy.

I like Enterprise, I have every episode, it’s a show that was underrated, but come on, it never caught on. Ultimately, it was a failure. There are plenty of people who dislike it and think it should never even have been made. It was canceled. Yeah, I know, so was TOS, but still…

To think that somehow Enterprise is going to be revived by the people who made ST09, or that Enterprise is going to be incorporated beyond a two second reference in the first movie is reminiscent of the 6 people in the world who couldn’t understand why Adam West didn’t play Batman opposite Jack Nicholson.

52. Red Dead Ryan - August 19, 2010

I live in Canada and get the Space channel. I don’t get the Sy Fy channel (thank goodness!). Judging by what I’ve read about the Sy Fy Channel, I’d rather see “Enterprise”, a show that I love, stay cancelled instead of having a bunch of network morons ruin the show and franchise.

I don’t think “Enterprise” will be coming back as a live-action medium, but at least we’ll still have the books and hopefully somewhere down the road, IDW publishes some ENT comics.

I haven’t read “The Good That Men Do” but I have read both “Kobayashi Maru” and “The Romulan War: Beneath The Raptor’s Wing”. Both great reads, especially the suspenseful “Kobayashi Maru”.

53. Jeff O'Connor - August 19, 2010

@51:

I’d love to see a real, full-fledged return of Enterprise. Of course, it’s not going to happen. As has been mentioned already, that show was the first since TOS to be cancelled due to low ratings. And unlike TOS, no one is going to look under a ratings rock and realize Enterprise was actually very profitable. Would it potentially do much better on SyFy, where its reruns have earned respectable (and even comparable to first-run) ratings? Sure, it might. But their plates are full and above all else, CBS isn’t going to give the rights to a new Trek (or revitalization of an old one) to a channel not under its flag.

When I mentioned the thought of having either T’Pol or Phlox get a couple of beats, two or three lines or something, that’s the extent I expect will ever be seen on-screen of the Enterprise cast. It was a nice, refreshing and downright heart-warming moment for the Enterprise fan in me to hear Archer’s name referenced in Trek ’09, but I suspect that’s as far as things will go on that end. It’s just nice to dream — even if dreaming within reason is nothing more than the fleeting notion of one of the potential surviving characters getting a couple of words in.

Star Trek: Enterprise was doomed from the start; as John Billingsley has stated, he’s impressed it got a full four seasons. There was some talk from the first and second years of the show not coming back, and of course anyone who was reading up on things at the time knows full-well it was a close call on a fourth season being greenlit. I knew back then the odds of a fifth year were incredibly slim. It is a show that will now live on only through authors’ interpretations of following events. It’s in the hands of the printing press.

54. Zebonka - August 19, 2010

Phlox was just Neelix Mk II. Billingsley is a great actor but I’ve never really liked what he had to work with. That pretty much goes for all of the Enterprise characters, at least for the first couple of seasons. Enterprise is always going to be a “what might have been” for me, because it was starting to look really promising. If it’d ended an episode earlier, I bet it’d have twice as many fans.

55. Nemesis4909 - August 19, 2010

#15. “These Are The Voyages” isn’t a TNG episode, it’s the DELETED SCENES of a TNG episode, for some reason in those deleted scenes the Turbolift doors change to what they’ll look like on the Enterprise E, Riker ages ten years and gets a lot fatter, Troi’s uniform changes colour and she gets a lot more haggard. The asteroid field must have had some strange effects on the Enterprise D.

However it is amazing that when writing “The Pegasus” the writers predicted that there would be an Enterprise tv series and even predicted the cast so completely. Isn’t that uncanny foresight?

56. Zebonka - August 19, 2010

And is it just me, or was trying to squeeze Frakes and Sirtis back into TNG uniforms an utterly silly move? It was only half as silly as trying to fit the Enterprise story into a totally unrelated TNG story.
It would be like me going to the Holodeck and re-enacting “A Few Good Men” because I’m having problems with my wife or something.

They could’ve just as easily put it on the Titan and written a new story that at least had some relevance. Or, better yet, it could’ve had absolutely nothing to do with TNG. They even could’ve kept the ending with the “final frontier” bit because the Federation scene is a perfect lead-in.

57. Khan was Framed! - August 20, 2010

Plox rocks!

I still say the best way to make up for a horrible finale would be to run an Enterprise: Romulan war mini-series.

Season 4 was simply the best season of any Trek in years.

It was a damn shame that it was cancelled likely due to many of it’s viewers watching it online, where ratings don’t get counted.

C’mon Team JJ, throw us a bone here, we need more Trek on TV & your production values would allow those of us who love Archer & crew to see them the way they were meant to be portrayed.

Before these guys get too old to do it!

& allow us some insight into Trek’s most intriguing, untold chapter.

PS -Emony Dax cameo in the next movie!

58. Jim Nightshade - August 20, 2010

Billingsly was great as dr phlox–quirky funny and seeing earth n humans from his wonderfully alien perspective–the xenophobe episodes with him on earth were great–syfy pays for shows like octocroc vs megaslug, stargate incarnations, ghostie reality shows,few of which are successful—to think of all the wasted money n inferior products–a revived enterprise in any form would be among the few great shows syfy makes–would never happen but we all can dream—-i would also luv to see any cameos in the next st movie

59. TJR - August 20, 2010

I finally watched Enterprise for the first time this year. I can’t believe the bad rap its gotten. By comparison I thought it was consistently the best of all the modern Trek Shows (minus the theme song). But that last episode was a shame, not because they killed Trip, but because they made his death pointless, The Trip from the previous season would have found a way out of the predicament he was in.

60. Pro-Khan-Sel - August 20, 2010

# 47

Billingsly indeed would make an Exellent harry mudd.. In The Third Movie!!

61. NTH - August 20, 2010

“These are the voyages” was quite a dissapointing send off for “The Enterprise” crew.Trips death was unnecessary and just plain silly.I would really like to see T’Pol and Phlox make cameo appearances in the next movie.Isn’t it about time we have a new Star Trek series on television. I would love to see a series of television movies based on various Star Trek characters/ series deing made in the same way that the Stargate t.v movies are made e.g……A Captain Sulu adventure…..A “Next Generation” story involving Captain Riker and his crew…..A ” DS9 “story following on from the T.V series….A” Voyager”movie starting with the crews physical return to their homes and families…an “Enterprise” movie that gives the crew a better send off and indicates that Trip was in fact alive.I guess “Dream on !” is in order.

62. Bernd Schneider - August 20, 2010

Billingsley finds too kind words for the disaster of “The Are The Voyages”, but I like how he mentions the two reasons why it went awry.

63. Horatio - August 20, 2010

As great as season 4 was don’t forget that it had to begin with the misguided Space Nazis cliffhanger inherited from the end of season 3 (what a way to end the whole Xindi arc – with Space Nazis. Sheesh!).

Once the space nazis had been dispatched and the temporal cold war sent to the dustbin of galactic history, Enterprise provided some of the best Trek ever.

What could have been still drives me crazy even after all these years…

64. Woulfe - August 20, 2010

Listen to me very carefully, lean in close so I may tell you a secret…..

THESE ARE THE VOYAGES NEVER HAPPENED !

It was all a fevered dream, just like The Star Wars Holiday Special…..

Just like Galactica 1980….

– W –
* does a Vulcan mind meld on everyone “FORGET” *

65. David C. Roberson - August 20, 2010

I would love to see a continuation of the Prime Timeline! In fact, I’ve noticed a lot of you would! I made a page on facebook in order to display our numbers. 45 members and counting! I’m looking for ways to get in contact with the people in charge of making mini-series and/or direct-to-DVD movies at CBS/Viacom/Paramount. Wouldn’t it be awesome to have a Bjo Tremble-type letter writing campaign? Anyway. I think the Facebook page could at least show our numbers!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=181092973024&v=info&ref=ts#!/group.php?gid=181092973024

66. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - August 20, 2010

I didnt like enterprise at first. but once i ACTUALLY WATCHED it, I think it was one of the best eppisoeds. worthy of a 5th and 6th season.. Would be awsome to restart the series. If i only had the money to buy the rights and do it myself

67. Rocket Scientist - August 20, 2010

I picked up the 1st Season DVDs for 20 bucks and am enjoying them immensely. Even the episode where Trip gets pregnant. While the whole idea is rather silly, they presented it well. I didn’t find it over the top at all. The alien nature of the Zarellians (sp?) was especially nice. The scene where Trip first boards their ship is just totally weird. Food growing on the walls and grass on the deck…that’s just too cool!

68. Lore - August 20, 2010

Its been off the air for 5 years. Enterprise is gone forever. The death of Tripp, in my opinion, was a fist in the eye (from the producers) to fans who obviously didn’t watch the show enough, and led to its early cancellation. I blame Berman.

69. Lore - August 20, 2010

#64 I remember that ST holiday special. If you really want a treat, look on youtube for Mark Hamill’s appearance on The Muppet Show. Its great!

70. Daniel Shock - August 20, 2010

I liked Phlox and Billingsley’s portrayal. I really hated his makeup, though. As much as I liked Westmore’s work, it really all started to look the same.

71. robertxgillis - August 20, 2010

#23 — love that idea, and she could mention her husband, Charles Tucker — and undo the BS that was TATV

72. Alyson - August 20, 2010

I loved ENT and TNG – not so keen on VOY or DS9 – I was very disappointed in the end of ENT…the 3 and 4th seasons were the best and were finally starting to become great in the story lines.

I am not well read enough to critisize the “Bs” – but it was a shame the series ended….i believe it was critisized too heavily from avid trek followers and at the beginning did not have the pulling power for a new market of potential watchers. I even really liked the theme song and was appropriate for the story line :)

73. Commodore shaggy - August 20, 2010

One thing that bothered me with TATV that I rarely see mentioned is the fact that there is no mention, not even a HINT at the four year war between Earth and Romulus. War has a deep effect on people and for there to be no allusions to the event was very strange. You know that if ENT had been allowed to go on they would have gone over that war and in the last episode it would have probably dealt with consequences of it too, just like DS9.

74. Greg2600 - August 20, 2010

Yet another reason Rick Berman should never work in television again.

75. Dyson Sphere - August 20, 2010

More Phlox Bob

76. bill hiro - August 20, 2010

Billingsley is hilarious on True Blood. He does a lot with a relatively small role.

77. grigori - August 20, 2010

The finale was an insult, but at least the books fixed it.

But more importantly, a show with great potential that was great at times had–before Coto–inconsistent writing that ultimately ROBBED us of what we most wanted to see with this era in Trek history onscreen: the Romulan War and the formation of the Federation. Coto SO much had the correct spirirt, and was pointed in the right direction (albeit with many earlier season episodes also pointed in the right direction), but too little too late.

I liked Billingsley as Phlox. In another interview recently he lamented they didn’t use his suggestions to explore Denobulan culture more–and he was right. That was another of the frustrating “holes” left by inconsistent writing on this show.

The actors were mostly great and gave us fantastic, developed and dynamic characters, and deserved better.

78. grigori - August 20, 2010

Oh, and #71, brilliant idea for T’Pol to mention her mate Charles Tucker in an upcoming film–it wouldn’t be the FIRST time a Trek film/series went back and confirmed something from a novel and made it canon. We’d get the books made canon this way…

79. MrRegular - August 20, 2010

Phlox rocks!!
Billingsley’s work was one of the bright lights of a series that finally found its way under Manny Coto. But the finale was terrible–worse in a way than any of the third season TOS episodes.
And we didn’t even get to see Archer’s speech. Why??
Huge, utter waste of both generations of crews. I do not consider it canon. Like Star Trek V, I consider it a dream…just a dream..
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I want to see a season 5 or a miniseason of Enterprise that puts us right in the middle of the Romulan War. It’s a story that needs to be told, finally.

80. Phobos - August 20, 2010

I loved the Enterprise TV series. Way way WAY underestimated by so many people.

I pray they are released on Blu ray someday.
Bring it back for S5 (even if only on Direct to DVD)

81. Jim Nightshade - August 21, 2010

yup the 4th season of Enterprise was the best…it suddenly seemed more focused and the characterizations were superior….the mirror universe episodes were loads of fun and more creative than any of the other mirror episodes in other treks….and the vulcan episodes really added to the vulcan history and myth….and they did great episodes like the prequels to KHANNNNN with the augments, and even explaining why Klingons do and dont have ridges(like ruffles kinda, wasnt it for dipping?)

I gotta agree the last episode was a terrible tribute to Enterprise…Killing Tripp also sucked but remember that Conneer T. liked the idea as it gave him something of a way for his character to go out a hero….

Ohh and Shren was just the best Andorian character ever made…I could watch a tv series about him and his ships adventures….what Great acting!! And he had a great rapport with Pink Skin Archer….The two of them played off each other great!

Yup with time I find Enterprise was one of my fave Trek Series….Far better than too many people give it credit for….

I even kinda liked the Space Nazis…after all if tos can do a Nazi planet episode why not Enterprise…Besides i luved watching enterprise shooting at the gERMAN PLANES HAHAHA

82. thomas p vinelli - August 21, 2010

They could bring back enterprise as a made for tv special. Something i wish PARAMOUNT would consider. It would at least test the waters of putting a new series back on tv or in this case hdtv.

83. Ernest Borg of 9 - August 21, 2010

“These Are the Voyages” was like the finale of the BSG reboot….made you forget everyhing that was great about the show that came before….terrible mistake on both parts. Enterprise was just coming to maturity when cancelled….it coulda been a contender as one of the best Trek series…

my ranking of the best series:
ST: DS9
ST: TNG
ST: ENT
ST: TOS
ST: VOY

84. Ernest Borg of 9 - August 21, 2010

and Voy sucked so much that it shouldn’t bear the name Star Trek

85. Jai - August 21, 2010

“Billingsley is hilarious on True Blood. He does a lot with a relatively small role.”

Especially as some of it involves very risque scenes. Never expected to see the good doctor in THAT kind of situation… ;)

Billingsley was entertaining in the film “Out of Time” too, alongside Denzel Washington and Eva Mendes. A bit of a goofy role, but he has a pivotal part as Denzel’s buddy. (By the way, the movie also has a great soundtrack, for those of you who haven’t seen it).

As for Enterprise, I think it suffered due to the fact that RDM’s revamped Battlestar Galactica was also around at the time. The much darker, grittier, and (at least in the early seasons) ‘realistic’ BSG in the years after 9/11 unfortunately made Enterprise seem tame by comparison, although it wasn’t actually that different in overall tone to most of the previous Trek shows (with the exception of the later seasons of DS9). I think Enterprise might have been more successful if it wasn’t for BSG, although that’s just a personal opinion.

However, I loved the two Mirror Universe episodes. Dark, completely demented, and very unpredictable. I bet the cast really enjoyed themselves playing that bunch of psychopaths, especially Scott Bakula as the literally psychotic Archer and Linda Park as the Cleopatra-ish Hoshi.

86. noirgwio - August 21, 2010

It’s been a long road, gettin’ from there to here…

I mean, wow! It’s so awesome to come on after being away for so long and see almost an entire comments thread full of people asking for more ENT – I remember a time when my own pleads were singular and the majority of fans had nothing nice to say at all… But this is awesome! I share in the delight of the recent books and want oh so badly to see a mini-series or full on S/5 of the good’ol NX-01. (Further references in the new Trek films would be a delight as well.)

@55 (I think…) Lol. ;)

87. raffie - August 22, 2010

About that Enterprise finale… Let it go already, it was the cherry on a 4-year old turd. If like he says someone from a different universe took over, well, thats the universe that should have taken over from the start. At least the TNG universe was quality television, as opposed to the mindless rubble Enterprise was.

88. Damian - August 22, 2010

The 5th season is being represented in the novels. I’m afraid you will not see anything from the Berman years on screen again. The new team of Abrams and co. have all but dismissed any chance of doing anything in the prime timeline. The relaunch novels are pretty good and anyone who liked Enterprise should check them out. It gives a good representation of what season 5 could have been and finally gives the story of the Romulan War. They also managed to undo the travesty of Tripp’s death in a novel way.

89. Red Dead Ryan - August 22, 2010

88

“The relaunch novels are pretty good and anyone who liked Enterprise should check them out. It gives a good representation of what season 5 could have been and finally gives the story of the Romulan War. They also managed to undo the travesty of Tripp’s death in a novel way.”

Was that a pun?

I agree with everything you said. I just hope IDW will chronicle events of the Romulan War in comic book form one day.

90. wi-kiry-lan - August 22, 2010

Well really the entire series felt like someone from another universe wrote a series – relative to TOS/TNG/DS9 continuity.

And as a prequel everything it did had no weight-typically prequels are usually an expansion of some point in the regular time – not ships and aliens and attacks that never got mentioned. Manny Coto’s tenure was largely undoing everything Berman and Braga did to get it back on course (despite B&B’s claims of being continuity friendly.)

91. Damian - August 23, 2010

#89–I just caught that after re-reading my comment. It was unintentional in that case.

92. Malcontent - August 23, 2010

I really don’t understand how people can defend enterprise. I really tried to like that show, but even the Manny Coto stuff, while better, still wasn’t very good. Different tastes I suppose, but even if they were to bring it back, which they won’t, I can’t imagine it being worth watching. Still, I guess if you just want hourly rehashes of dumb sci-fi cliches punctuated by things blowing up it’s fine.

93. Rick - August 24, 2010

I just finished watching Season 3 and 4 of Enterprise on DVD.

*I* really don’t understand how people can *not* like Enterprise, so I guess we’re even, eh ‘Malcontent’?

94. oogaboogawooga - August 24, 2010

Mr. Orci,

A T’Pol cameo, done the right way so it actually worked with the story and wouldn’t require any prior knowledge of her, could be quite poignant. I have some ideas on how it could be done, but I’m not about to tell you how to do your job. This is just one thing it would be great if you could work into ST12. Thank you very much, sir.

95. Ron Hyatt - November 21, 2010

Enterprise needed some Hwil Hweaton.

96. Khrista Cendana - March 17, 2011

Teehee; I love phlox…. in fact, I’m sort of jealous with crewman cutler since she’s the one to be with phlox during that episode. If I were on board the enterprise, i think every of my free minute would be with phlox since i have a crush on him…

however i do agree that the last episode “These are the voyages…” was a bad episode. Don’t get me wrong. It was awesome to see The Next Generation being crossover with Enterprise and seeing Riker and Diana was a bonus, but it could have been better.

Every doctor in Star Trek is my favorite except for the two doctors in The Next Generation. I don’t like Beverly and the one that replaced her…

However if there is going to be a sequel movie of Star Trek ’09, Phlox should really be in it or at least the Enterprise crew. Some sort of time travel, y’know?

And we didn’t see Phlox family or Denobluan! that would have been nice! We only gotten to see his 2nd wife…

here are my rankings:

1) STV
2) DS9
3) STE
4) The original series
5) Star Trek Generation

97. startreknut - November 7, 2011

Goddamn you people. FREAKING PUT UP SPOILER ALERTS SO YOU DON’T RUIN THE PLOT FOR OTHERS.

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