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Vulcan Axiom From Star Trek II Cited By Texas Supreme Court – Nicholas Meyer Responds October 27, 2010

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Feature Films (TMP-NEM),Great Links , trackback

Star Trek has been influential in pop culture and society for over four decades, but now it has gone a step farther to becoming a legal precedent. In a new ruling, the Texas Supreme Court has specifically cited the "the needs of the many…" axiom from Star Trek II. Details below, plus exclusive reaction from Wrath of Khan writer/director Nicholas Meyer.   

 

Star Trek makes law

In a ruling on Robinson v. Crown Cork and Seal, an asbestos lawsuit, the Texas Supreme Court struck down a lower court decision and declared a provision of recent legislation to be unconstitutional. As explained by the South East Texas Record, the court found that the legislature should not enact a law which in effect protected a single company.

Where things get interesting is in the written opinion where, in the section on "how the Texas Constitution allocates governing power" , Justice Don R. Willett cites a certain science officer:

Appropriately weighty principles guide our course. First, we recognize that police power draws from the credo that “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” Second, while this maxim rings utilitarian and Dickensian (not to mention Vulcan21), it is cabined by something contrarian and Texan: distrust of intrusive government and a belief that police power is justified only by urgency, not expediency.

And it gets better, footnote 21 reads:

See STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN (Paramount Pictures 1982). The film references several works of classic literature, none more prominently than A Tale of Two Cities. Spock gives Admiral Kirk an antique copy as a birthday present, and the film itself is bookended with the book’s opening and closing passages. Most memorable, of course, is Spock’s famous line from his moment of sacrifice: “Don’t grieve, Admiral. It is logical. The needs of the many outweigh . . .” to which Kirk replies, “the needs of the few.”

So apparently Justice Willett is a Trekkie. Could this kind of thing catch on? There have been a number of Star Trek related classes at colleges and universities, perhaps it is time for Star Trek to be taught at law school.


Spock explains how sacrificing himself is logical in "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan"

Meyer Responds

Earlier I emailed Star Trek II director Nicholas Meyer, who wrote the final draft of the script for the film, to get his reaction to this. Here is his reply:

Dear Anthony

It WOULD be the Texas Supreme Court…

Still, you’ve made my day!!

Thanks so much.

Live long, and prosper,

Nicholas Meyer
 

Thanks to SFWA for spotting this

Comments

1. Captain Vincent - October 27, 2010

Wonderful how a movie released in ’82 remains relevant in a wildly different universe. Great words.

2. Michael - October 27, 2010

Awesome!!

3. Odkin - October 27, 2010

I sure hope the new movie has this kind of timeless writing (but NOT recycling that quote again!)

Can anyone honestly quote one memorable line of dialogue from last years popcorn Trek?

4. rm10019 - October 27, 2010

That is awesome

5. Hwk - October 27, 2010

The next quote will be from TOS for todays elections:
“Brain and brain…what is Brain?!”

6. Andy Patterson - October 27, 2010

I think all the dialogue from “The Way to Eden” and “Return of the Archons” needs to be incorporated too.

When trying to get a law or motion passed they could say “Just be friendly. You know how to be friendly.” Right on brother. I reach that I really do”

When sentencing someone you could always say ” You will be….excised. For the good of the body….you, and all those you know you, must be….destroyed.”

7. Hat Rick - October 27, 2010

This is really quite amazing and I love it!

However, may it please the Star Trek Supreme Court, I am moved to indicate that the same idea is actually encapsulated in the philosophy of utilitarianism as famously espoused by the English philosopher, Jeremy Bentham, who lived from 1748 to 1832. This greatly precedes Charles Dickens or, of course, Star Trek.

Utilitarian was later refined as rule utilitarianism by none other than John Stuart Mill.

I know this because philosophy was one of my favorite subjects in college some decades ago.

Of course, it may be possible that Bentham was actually a time-traveling Vulcan.

8. nuKirk - October 27, 2010

MEMORABLE QUOTE FROM LAST YEARS FILM:

“You can settle for a less than ordinary life. Or do you feel like you were meant for something better? Something special?”—Pike to Kirk in the bar after the fight

…granted, not taken from classical literature, but it has the same resonating meaning as if it had been.

And how about how Quinto-Spock said ‘Live Long and Prosper’ to the Vulcan Science Academy Council in a way so it sounded like ‘F**k you’ and made you think OMG Spock’s gonna go Sylar on the Council LOL

9. DJT - October 27, 2010

Don’t mess with Texas. ;)

10. Majicou - October 27, 2010

@7:
He cited utilitarianism in the opinion. “Second, while this maxim rings utilitarian and Dickensian (not to mention Vulcan21) …”

11. Hat Rick - October 27, 2010

Oh, and there were some great lines of dialogue — exchanges, indeed — in ST2009.

For example:

“You know your father was Captain of a Starship for 12 minutes. He saved 800 lives. Including your mother’s and yours. I dare you to do better.”

Spoken by Christopher Pike, who features in my proposed Trek fiction, “Star Trek: Convergence” (previously known as “Star Trek 2: Terminal Convergence.”

12. CAPT KRUNCH - October 27, 2010

TWOK is still the greatest of the TREK movies!..

13. Hat Rick - October 27, 2010

10, good point, but my idea is to draw the connection between utilitarianism and the Vulcan line and to indicate that utilitarianism greatly precedes the fictional Star Trek universe.

By the way, there are, I am certain, many philosophical and legal ideas that one can find in Star Trek, which is an endless source of interest to the intellectually curious amongst us.

Trek is a very rich trove of some very profound ideas that one scarcely finds expressed anywhere else in popular culture.

14. Odkin - October 27, 2010

None of the quotes mentioned from ST09 even come close to “Can I cook, or can’t I?”, never mind “The needs of the many…”

And @8 NuKirk – really? Quinto’s childish petulant “Live Long and Prosper” was horribly out of character – a cringe-worthy example of modern smartassedness replacing class and substance.

15. Hat Rick - October 27, 2010

^^14, the edgiest, most pop-cultural, and strangely least controversial (considering its subject) line — albeit spoken in jest, in the movie, were the ones referencing bestiality:

Lt. Nyota Uhura: I’m impressed. For a moment there, I thought you were just a dumb hick who only has sex with farm animals.

James T. Kirk: Well, not only.

(Source: IMDB.com.)

In retrospect, that is. Although, I must say that that line struck me as unusual.

En passant, here is an exchange I like from the movie:

Burly Cadet #1: Hey farmboy. Maybe you can’t count. But there are four of us and one of you.

James T. Kirk: So get two more guys and then it’ll be an even fight.

(Ibid.)

16. Majicou - October 27, 2010

@14: Do people still not get Vulcans? After the movie came out, it was months of “Vulcans don’t fall in love!” Utter nonsense, natch. In the same vein, how is it out of character for a Vulcan to be sarcastic? Vulcans are the masters of sarcasm, renowned throughout the galaxy. One exchange from “The Trouble with Tribbles” leaps to mind:

CHEKOV: I was making a little joke, sir.
SPOCK: (witheringly) Yes, ensign. Very little.

17. Hat Rick - October 27, 2010

Vulcans also don’t

a. lie
b. have sex — ever
c. enjoy intimacy or,
d. none of the above.

No points for choosing the obvious correct answer (d).

It is possible that the young Spock, being half-human, had simply not yet developed the self-control that the slightly older Spock we have been used to (from TOS) had.

18. Phil - October 27, 2010

great…the barbarians are at the gate, and Rome is burning…

19. Vultan - October 27, 2010

#18

Yeah, too bad. Rome had so much going for it…

“You bring this network’s ratings down, Flavius, and we’ll do a special on you!”

;)

20. Trekkie since 1966 - October 27, 2010

Well, it’s a start. Now, if we could only get more people to adopt the philosophy of IDIC, we’d be moving in the right direction.

Now, I don’t expect to see transporters and food replicators in my lifetime, but a little acceptance and common sense? Why does that seem like too much to ask for…?

Peace and long life, neighbors.

21. keachick - October 27, 2010

3. Odkin – “Can anyone honestly quote one memorable line of dialogue from last years popcorn Trek?”

Oh yes, I can, but I doubt these words would make for any legal precedent though. LOL

“What’s your focus?”
“Xenolinguistics. You don’t know what that means.”
“Morphology, phonology, syntax. It means you’ve got a talented tongue.”
“I’m impressed. For a moment there, I thought you were just a dumb hick who only has sex with farm animals.”
“Well, not only. ”
“Is this townie bothering you?”
“Oh, beyond belief, but nothing I can’t handle.”
“You can handle me. That’s an invitation.”

I’ve been meaning to ask which one of the writers – Kurtzman, Orci, Lindelof, was responsible for those lines? Don’t be shy now. You task me, you task me.

Has anyone any idea how it is when I see and hear the Pine/Kirk say the words, “You can handle me. That’s an invitation” . If only, oh how I could handle that man, if I got my hands, etc on him…sigh!!!!!

22. Sheldon Cooper - October 27, 2010

#3 –
“I dare you to do better.” – Christopher Pike

23. Anthony Pascale - October 27, 2010

Reminder: dont get political

24. Hat Rick - October 27, 2010

Has anyone else noticed the very large degree distance between Star Trek (2009) and Star Trek: Nemesis as measured by degree of formality? For the most, the lines in Nemesis can be spoken of in a stentorian voice, almost as though in an operatic play.

For example: “The crew has responded with the dedication I’ve come to expect of them… And like a thousand other commanders on a thousand other battlefields, I wait for the dawn.” (Nemesis.)

This kind of dialogue has been described as “heightened,” and it evokes classical tradition.

Compare this with the “sex with farm animals” line in ST2009, and the difference is clear.

ST2009 is made without what some might consider “stuffiness” in dialogue; I think an analogy can be made between the hyperdescriptive, to-modern-ears-stilted language of Dickens and the still-modern language of Hemingway and London, where economy of words and informality are more highly prized.

I’m not rendering value judgments on either approach. I just find the difference remarkable.

25. Vultan - October 27, 2010

I’m kind of envious of those old enough to have seen TWOK when it was first released in ’82. Spock’s sacrifice must’ve been so much more profound back then… rather than now when even new or casual fans already know that old pointy-ears gets resurrected in the third movie somehow.

26. nuKirk - October 27, 2010

uuuuh Anthony… how can we not get political when they subject of this article is politics via legalities and court cases?

27. Areli - October 27, 2010

Love this.

It is nice to see STII used in a court ruling. :D

I’ve indirectly referenced ST in my papers and directly in a presentation on Human Nature.

I really do believe schools should have an ST course. The entire series is filled with morals and the perfect tool to study the theory of politics, psychology, business, design, engineering, and other relevant subjects.

28. Harry Ballz - October 27, 2010

24.

Yeah, I was there in 1982 (age 27) on opening night. We had heard the rumors about Spock, but shrugged them off in our anticipation of a good movie. When the moment came that Spock dies, there was a kind of muffled silence in the theatre……I say muffled because most of the men in the theatre were EMOTIONALLY STUNNED at what they had just witnessed and really didn’t know how to behave OR react. You could feel this wave of grief/shock from the audience that was almost palpable. I, of course, have watched the movie 35 times since then, but nothing will equal that shared experience.

29. Red Dead Ryan - October 27, 2010

28

That’s a great story! Unfortunately, I was only one (going on two) when “The Wrath Of Khan” came out. Today, a scene like that wouldn’t get the same reactions since it has been done so many times since then.

30. Vultan - October 27, 2010

#28

Wow, thanks for sharing that experience, Harry. Funny, you were 27 and got TWOK. I’m 27 now and I get… hmmm… well, guess I’ll be pushing 30 when the next Trek movie comes out. :(

But if it’s as good as TWOK… I’ll be a happy 29 year old. :)

31. Harry Ballz - October 27, 2010

Ryan+Vultan

it was my pleasure to remember the experience!

32. BeatleJWOL - October 27, 2010

@24

I’ve most definitely noticed the difference in formality, in Trek and in other things. The most recent (to me, since I just watched this) striking example is in the Lord Of The Rings movies, where the formality of dialogue is all over the place.

Interesting choices these scriptwriters make…

33. AzarN - October 27, 2010

Great line from ST09, even better because it stands on the shoulder of TWOK:

“Going back in time, changing history? That’s cheating.”
“A trick I learned from an old friend.”

Wonderful.

34. Anthony Thompson - October 28, 2010

3.

“Are their sandwiches in the future?” and “Can someone get me a towel?” Both immortally spoken by Nu-Scotty.

35. Vince - October 28, 2010

I like this

“What is necessary is never unwise.”

Sarek to Spock in the Transporter Room after Spock relinquishes command

36. Silicon Avatar - October 28, 2010

“I’d like to get my hands on her ample nacelles, if you’ll pardon the engineering parlance.”

37. Tom - October 28, 2010

Wow, you guys need to get out more often if you think this is noteworthy, even in the realm of Trek.

38. Kirk, James T. - October 28, 2010

Star Trek of the Roddenberry and Berman years is like classical music. JJ Abrams Star Trek is more rock and roll.

Don’t get me wrong. I loved the Shakespearian Klingons in Undiscovered Country and “the needs of the many etc…” but at times it was hugely cheesy. Why they used “Saving Grace” for Spock’s “burial” is beyond me so lets not get caught up in the nostalgia of old Star Trek.

Abrams Star Trek is a classic blockbuster for the times we live in just as Wrath of Khan was for it’s era.

Everyone loves rock and roll and hardly anyone who goes to see a science fiction epic really likes Shakespeare.

39. keachick - October 28, 2010

Really, 37. It’s called having fun. Although some people are critical of one liners, I think that clever one-liners are actually what make or break a movie. Is that not how we talk, make conversation, unless we are giving a speech, an explanation or doing some sort of monologue?

40. keachick - October 28, 2010

“Saving Grace”? The hymn is called “Amazing Grace” and it was a beautiful part of the film. Check out the movie called “Amazing Grace” and among other things explains the origin of that hymn. It is also one of the best known of all hymns, has a beautiful melody and words. I suspect it will still be played and sung even in Trek times. One can only hope.

41. tj - October 28, 2010

Now we can only hope that the new Star Trek crew in the new movies are as lasting 25 years after it is shown as TOS crew has been.

42. swh1939 - October 28, 2010

The first quote from ST09 that came to my mind was …

“I may throw up on you”.

- spoken by both McCoy and Kirk.

Sorry if this quote is too political.

43. NX-01 - October 28, 2010

I don’t think the new movie has any line as memorable as ‘The needs of the many’, but the opening scene was as powerful as any in all of ST. As a father, watching George Kirk sacrifice himself to save his being-delivered son and wife… Damn, still gets me.

44. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - October 28, 2010

I remember your face from Earths History. It said that Capt Kirk was a great man who would go on to Capt the Enterprise. But that was another Life. A Life Im going to deprive you of like I did your fathers.. That was a great line. It is so kool to live in Texas. Go Rangers!!!!!!!

45. Damian - October 28, 2010

5–I think that line can apply to most politicians today. I think a brainectomy is required before you are allowed to run for office today. Unfortunately their brains would be useless on Sigma Draconis VI (yeah I looked that up on Memory Alpha).

46. abnclassic - October 28, 2010

@28, I saw Nemesis the day it came out, and what you describe sounds like the feeling in the theatre when Data sacrificed himself. While that movie has its obvious flaws, that moment will stay with me as one of those “I’ll never forget when” kind of moments.

47. Losira - October 28, 2010

Star Trek is an excellant source for a code of civilized behavior. Its about time that we adopted it into our code of behavior. Great show of commen sense. We may not destroy our selvies.

48. John from Cincinnati - October 28, 2010

1. Not just a movie released in 1982, it’s Star Trek.

49. Charla - October 28, 2010

# 3 A couple of statements from Spock prime to younger Spock that is pertinent today….

“Set aside logic, and do what feels right.” – Gotta do that sometimes!

Young Spock – “You lied.” Older Spock – “I implied.” Loved that one!!

50. cd - October 28, 2010

“Ee Pleb Neesta!”

51. CmdrR - October 28, 2010

Hmmm. I usually don’t like sequels, but perhaps I should check out this “Star Trek – 2.”

*runs like hell*

52. C.S. Lewis - October 28, 2010

Diversity requires well defined boundaries. Diversity, infinitely combined, is “homogenization” which destroys diversity.

Something to think about while otherwise drinking the Bolshevik (i.e., anti-racist, internationalist, socialist) Kool-Aid.

Sincerely,
C.S. Lewis

20. Trekkie since 1966 – October 27, 2010

Well, it’s a start. Now, if we could only get more people to adopt the philosophy of IDIC, we’d be moving in the right direction.

Now, I don’t expect to see transporters and food replicators in my lifetime, but a little acceptance and common sense? Why does that seem like too much to ask for…?

Peace and long life, neighbors.

53. Michael - October 28, 2010

Recall Vulcan’s of the opast? Spock And Zerabeth? He ate meat, macked on her, and was ready to beat McCoy for making his babe uncomfortable? It was even Pon far time, and Spock was so horned up to bob her, it was crazy. Vulcan’s HAVE emotions, and depending on their time, emotional level at the time, youth, mixed breeding, thsi is all a juggling act. They “control” their emotions most of the time. Why do fan boys see vulcan logic as 100% absolute 100% of the time? Spock, though emotionless was always irritated w/ McCoy,…an emotion and bickered with him, and even had barbs to spew when he was sufficiently anoyed with someone. Being anoyed, is an emotion, and he reacted accordingly. Alien-wise or not, he reacted. He was even clearly angry in ST6 w/ Savik.

54. Dr. Cheis - October 28, 2010

I’m impressed, but….

Is this guy going to be up for re-election soon? The way politics have been going lately somebody’s going to make an 30 second TV advertisement about him saying he’s more concerned about Star Trek then law, and cite the WoK reference without any context.

Texas sounds like that kind of place where people might fall for that too.

55. RobertZ - October 28, 2010

but, but, sometimes….”The needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many.” –STIII

56. ster j - October 28, 2010

#55. Amen, RobertZ! Sounds like something said by the person at the top of a long transplant list.

It actually bothers me that this revered quote was used by that judge. It will set a precedent to use (abuse?) this quote to push a political agenda, kind of like misquoting the Bible to get your way.

(Okay, okay! So Trek isn’t the Bible, but Spock’s self-sacrifice [and later resurrection] is a literary paradigm that mirror’s Christ’s sacrifice. Yes. I said it. Now I’ll run and hide.)

57. John - October 28, 2010

#43

I agree…very underrated scene and a great opening. If the new movie can have a moment like that, telling his wife “I love you” as the ship is rammed into the Narada…it will be a good thing.

58. noirgwio - October 28, 2010

I love Trek… And I love sharing stories and ideas about it with others that do. Same goes for Doctor Who, Smallville/Superman and many other geek-ish things. But something about this scares me. My initial reaction is to be like: “whoa, a Trekkie in such a prominent position! It really does touch all walks of life!” And I love that… But in a court case…? Dealing with laws, legalities and politics? I’m a writer, so I am all about affecting ideas through my written works and art – if you will. I just don’t know if there should be such an olive branch between hard, crucial law-making and Star Trek. I don’t think I feel comfortable with that clearly cut and definable line between the artistic expressionism and commentary of Star Trek and the hard-nosed realities of politics and laws becoming less and less visible. Doesn’t that then, defeat the purpose of Star Trek to begin with?

And I too, as someone else queried, wonder whether or not this comes into play at an optimum time to take as many electoral advantages as possible… I dunno, it just kind of rubs me the wrong way. Not to sound like one of the ‘stiffs’ but, I don’t think I particularly like this mixture. I want to be able to speak to humanity and human nature, but I don’t want it held sacred like oh so many laws and religions, because that, I think, could potentially diminish the seriousness of whatever applicable issues may arise within those parameters. Lead to lesser serious considerations and such that what needs to be done becomes marred and outweighed by commentative flights of fancy… I dunno, that’s just my take.

59. Konsta - October 28, 2010

Why can’t you find elements like these in the last film?
Food for thought…

60. Dr. Cheis - October 28, 2010

#59
You can, but almost all of them were revealed in the trailer so it had less of an impact when you actually went to see the movie.

61. Vultan - October 28, 2010

#59

There was some food for thought in Trek ’09—it was just an appetizer! Whereas TWOK was more a buffet. :)

62. Harry Ballz - October 28, 2010

46.

I understand. Thanks for sharing!

63. VZX - October 28, 2010

Not surprising. It is, afterall, the best movie of all time.

64. GarySeven - October 28, 2010

I just wanted to say that I consistently enjoy both Hat Rick’s intelligent, thoughtful posts, and Harry Ballz’s equally interesting posts as well. Thanks guys. There’s a lot of irrational and negative posts here, but you guys shine a light in the darkness.

65. Gene L Coon was a U. S. Marine. Stand at ease. - October 28, 2010

55 RobertZ – October 28, 2010

but, but, sometimes….”The needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many.” –STIII

I’m glad you mentioned the Kirk quote from STIII. But you should expand it more. It is very powerful. It comes at the moment Spock has his first flicker of memory.

Captain Spock: My father says that you have been my friend. You came back for me.
Kirk: You would have done the same for me.
Captain Spock: Why would you do this?
Kirk: Because the needs of the one… outweighed the needs of the many.

As much as I enjoyed having Trek back in ’09, I think it is asking too much for the new cast to ever be able to have this deep resonance. Star Trek was repeated every night for ten years before TMP was released. Shatner’s Kirk and Nimoy’s Spock were in our homes every night (at 6pm in NY channel 11). We got to see them constantly. The give and take, the growth and development of the characters, their jokes, and their struggles. By the time TWOK came out they were part of our families. Kirk’s inversion of the “needs” line at the end of TSFS is a perfectly written ending, because it stands on the shoulders of that familiarity.

For all their abilities, Pine and Quinto will never be in quite the same emotional position. They won’t have the opportunity to inhabit Kirk and Spock in the same way because they’ll never have that daily reinforcement of all those reruns. It isn’t hard to understand why threads that debate bringing Shatner back as Kirk get hundreds of posts. He is still Capt. Kirk on the TV in the other room while your mom made you sit down for dinner. His age and girth can’t change that. So, as perfectly as that ending of TSFS is written, it wouldn’t work if it wasn’t delivered by Shatner to Nimoy. This doesn’t mean that ST 2012 won’t be great, it just can’t be expected to pack that kind of emotional wallop. But that doesn’t mean it can’t be exquisitely written. I keep thinking of the great lines in Lawrence of Arabia. Memorable, quotable lines.

Mr. Dryden: A man who tells lies, like me, merely hides the truth. But a man who tells half-lies has forgotten where he put it.

or

Prince Feisal: There’s nothing further here for a warrior. We drive bargains. Old men’s work. Young men make wars, and the virtues of war are the virtues of young men. Courage and hope for the future. Then old men make the peace. And the vices of peace are the vices of old men. Mistrust and caution. It must be so.

or

T.E. Lawrence: Sherif Ali!. So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people. Greedy, barbarous and cruel, as you are.
Sherif Ali: Come. I will take you to Feisal.
T.E. Lawrence: I do not want your company, sherif.
Sherif Ali: Wadi Safra is another day from here. You will not find it, and not finding it you will die.
T.E. Lawrence: I will find it with this.
[showing the compass]
Sherif Ali: [Ali suddenly takes the compass with his stick] Good army compass. How if I take it?
T.E. Lawrence: Then you would be a thief.
Sherif Ali: Have you no fear, English?
T.E. Lawrence: My fear is my concern.
Sherif Ali: Truly.
[Ali gives back the compass to Lawrence]
Sherif Ali: God be with you English.
[And he rides away]

I could see bob putting words like these in ST12. Let it soar.

66. Harry Ballz - October 28, 2010

64. GarySeven “enjoy….Harry Ballz’s equally interesting posts as well”

Gary, thank you. That is most kind! I know my kind of humour isn’t for everyone, but I DO try to inject a grain of philosophical intelligence in there somewhere. Nice to know that some people enjoy it!

67. Hat Rick - October 28, 2010

32 (BeatleJWOL) and 64 (GarySeven), thank you for your comments!

About the Vulcan creed of IDIC — it seems to me that one should accord both “diversity” and “combination,” each, their due. The critic may say, as above, that once combined, there is no more diversity, but this is not so — not at all.

For example, Earth’s own biosphere, a beautiful thing, encompasses millions of species — truly a diversity — and yet it is the combination of these species that makes it what it is. In a sense, each element in the great chain of being (so to speak) combines with another to form a greater whole. The biosphere is greater than the mere sum of its parts, and yet without each of its parts, the biosphere cannot exist.

Indeed, these concepts may be where diversity first obtained its greatest force — from biology, genetics, and the immense significance of our beautiful planet and its multitudinous species.

Even though IDIC may be fictional, it could very well be based on profoundly true ideas, and, as in many things, truth may be found in Trek much as truth is found in fictional or semi-fictional ideas of Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, as expounded.

68. Michael Hall - November 1, 2010

“Diversity requires well defined boundaries. Diversity, infinitely combined, is “homogenization” which destroys diversity.”

Hmm. Still trying to puzzle out what this could possibly mean in the King’s English. Please explain further.

“Something to think about while otherwise drinking the Bolshevik (i.e., anti-racist, internationalist, socialist) Kool-Aid.”

Hmm again. I know that Bolshevism and socialism are evil and most foul indeed by definition, but how did “anti-racist” come to be lumped-in there? And as for “internationalism,” Mr. Lewis, exactly what part of “United Space Ship” (or, in the alternative, “United Earth Ship”) did you not get?

Respectfully,

Mike Hall

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