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Australian News Site Issues Apology and Correction For Inaccurate Star Trek Article (and still gets it wrong) November 4, 2010

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Books,Fandom,Great Links,Humor , trackback

Star Trek fans are notoriously nitpicky and an Australian news site found that out this week and went so far as to publish an apology for getting their facts wrong in an article talking about Enterprises.  

 

How many Enterprises?

On Tuesday Australian news site news.com.au (Australia’s 3rd biggest news site) ran an article about the new Haynes Guide to the USS Enterprise (reviewed at TrekMovie on Monday). The news.com.au article contained this passage:

The 160-page guide covers the entire range of USS Enterprise models, from Captain Jonathan Archer’s original NX-01 from the most recent TV series through to the NCC-1701 under the control of Captain Kirk and her replacement, the NCC-1701-E.

Clearly this is inaccurate. In fact, the book cover (which is in the same article), lists all the Enterprises in the manual: "(NX-01, NCC-1701, NCC-1701-A to NCC-1701-E)".


News.com.au gets nitpicked over article about news Haynes guide.

This error was pointed out in the comments and the editors decided to have some fun with it and issued an apology yesterday titled "We’re sorry for claiming Captain Kirk was in Command of Captain Picard’s starship", and the article starts with these mea culpas

  • There were many USS Enterprises
  • Kirk didn’t captain them all
  • Patrick Stewart is handsome
  • The article goes on to say that "news.com.au apologises unreservedly" for the mix-up and for using the term "hyperspace" instead of "warp". Unfortunately news.com.au decided to use one of the comments to correct the record on the history of the Enterprise, noting:

    User "Your Mum’s Lunch" led the charge of those who correctly pointed out that after losing the original Enterprise to the Klingons, Captain Kirk was given the Excelsior Class Enterprise-B as a stop-gap measure until the refit of the Enterprise-A was completed.

    Enterprise-D and Enterprise-E were in fact, the first of the Galaxy Class models and were under the command of Captain Picard.

    Inaccurate

    So even in their apology they got a number of things wrong, so to nitpick the nitpick and set the record straight:


    Star Trek comics bridged gap between Star Trek III & IV with Kirk in command of the USS Excelsior (seen on these covers)

    However news.com.au covered themselves and bought some goodwill by saying:

    We also agree that Patrick Stewart is a handsome man, a sentiment expressed by several readers.

    Addendum – We’re also sorry for any errors in this apology"

    So we will let that all slide.

     

    Comments

    1. Rocket Scientist - November 4, 2010

    Love the pic of Picard flipping the bird!

    2. Scruffy the Vampire Janitor - November 4, 2010

    I miss those comics. :)

    Where did you get that picture of Picard?

    3. El Chup - November 4, 2010

    The site was clearly taking the piss out of nerdy nitpickers, and rightly so.

    It’s pathetic how serious some fans get over it all….and some wonder what orginally promoted the “Get a Life” sketch.

    4. Spectre7 - November 4, 2010

    lol

    Furthermore, the Enterprise-D was not the 1st Galaxy-class ship. The USS Galaxy NCC-70637 was.

    Also, books and comics aren’t canon so none of that Kirk/Excelsior stuff is relevant.

    What IS canon is that Harriman is a DOUCHE

    5. Andrew - November 4, 2010

    “NNC-1701-E” ? *snicker*

    6. Battle-scarred Sciatica - November 4, 2010

    “Make it so…and swivel!”

    7. Bren - November 4, 2010

    Is that Vampira from Ed Wood on the left hand comic?

    8. MarkG1701 - November 4, 2010

    The article was in good humour on both sides.

    As an Australian I can say it’s just part of our humour. We get a good laugh out of taking the piss out of ourselves…we’re not all perfect.

    I would say though that it was the most widely read article on that day too.

    It’s good that Trek still commands this kind of attention.

    9. The Riddler - November 4, 2010

    How does A come before B>

    10. MvRojo - November 4, 2010

    If I were them, I’d write an article with at least one Trek error a week and then apologize with more errors.

    11. Chris M - November 4, 2010

    haha, i’m here in Australia and read news.com.au every day. I read both the original article and the apology which I found pretty funny! Can’t believe it made it all the way to Trekmovie.com that Awesome!! :-)

    12. Jordan - November 4, 2010

    Let it go trekkies, we can accept a mistake or two.

    13. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - November 4, 2010

    Really does it matter?

    14. The Realist MkII.V - November 4, 2010

    I love been an Aussie, we don’t take things to seriously, in fact we love taking the piss out of almost anything, including ourselves, most other countries don’t get our sense of humour or ability to totaly bag each other out and still be mates.

    15. Ben Adams - November 4, 2010

    “Appology” – brilliant! :D

    16. Brett L. - November 4, 2010

    Man, those DC comics were a lot of fun. They weaved a whole separate continuity during the two years between ST III & IV so they could continue to have brand new adventures while waiting for ST IV. From what I recall, Spock even commanded his own science vessel during that period while Kirk and co. had their own adventures on Excelsior. And then they managed to tie things up leading seamlessly into the beginning of ST IV. It wasn’t canon, but those stories were still great fun. At 75 cents a copy, how could you go wrong?

    17. Todd - November 4, 2010

    it also says “Kirk’s last ship was the Ambassador Class Enterprise-C.”. Whoopsy!

    Funny stuff though//

    18. DonDonP1 - November 4, 2010

    Fascinating. When I saw ‘Independence Day’ in 1996, I saw the teaser trailer of ‘Star Trek: First Contact’. It made wonder, ‘Would the Enterprise-D footage be reused as the Enterprise-E?’ It made me wonder, ‘Would the Enterprise-E be a galaxy class ship?’ Of course, I already knew the E-E is Sovereign class.

    19. 666 - November 4, 2010

    @2 …The Picard pic is a manip of him from the episode “Devil’s Due”.

    20. Polly - November 4, 2010

    12. We can do…..what? Acept a mistake?! LOL

    just kiddin’ :)

    21. Pat Payne - November 4, 2010

    If there was an error, it was in grammar, not in Trek lore — the sentence would have been accurate if it read like this: “from Captain Jonathan Archer’s original NX-01 from the most recent TV series through to the NCC-1701 under the control of Captain Kirk, and her replacement, the NCC-1701-E.” Note the comma between “Kirk” and “and”, separating the two clauses.

    22. Jerry Modene - November 4, 2010

    To answer #7’s question, that female figure was actually the entity that fed on fear in “Wolf in the Fold” – yep, that was Jack the Ripper.

    Nice to see the “Back to Vulcan” cover, too – that was the issue with my letter (telexed to DC from Saipan, where I was stationed at the time) as the lead in the lettercol!

    23. Phaser Guy - November 4, 2010

    I love how the they mention Archer. and Kirk but not Picard, arguably, Picard and Kirk are the most well known Captains.

    24. Vultan - November 4, 2010

    Boy, what an ENORMOUS mistake! I’m never watching a Paul Hogan movie again. Take that, Australia! ;)

    25. CarlG - November 4, 2010

    @23: They did say that Patrick Stewart was handsome, so it evens out.

    26. Red Dead Ryan - November 4, 2010

    All of this nitpicking is why the mainstream views “Star Wars” as the superior franchise.

    I agree with #3, this was all done in good humor. Because most authentic news sites do research before reporting on something. Though mistakes do happen from time to time.

    27. njdss4 - November 4, 2010

    It boils down to what any writer shouldn’t do: Write about things they don’t understand.

    28. Areli - November 4, 2010

    So I’m wonder why this gets an article (albeit it was funny to read) but Bob Orci’s twitter post on how the Talosians aren’t the next villain doesn’t get a front page anything.

    Sure, it wasn’t anything big but some of us don’t really haunt the forums.

    29. MJ - November 5, 2010

    Slow news day, eh Anthony. :-)

    30. Majicou - November 5, 2010

    The original text was just ambiguous, really. Not too big a deal. It’s oddly phrased–I mean, you probably wouldn’t see a reference to “George Washington and his replacement, John F. Kennedy,” but eh.

    Those DC comics from the 80s, though–from what I’ve read about them, it seems like the editors were just thinking, “Okay, well, that movie’s over, here’s how we think it’ll go from here on out,” and then they’d turn out to be utterly wrong and have to backpedal at warp speed. Repeatedly. I wonder if people at Paramount/Bad Robot/wherever were thinking of the DC line when they tabled the Abramsverse novels scheduled for this year.

    31. grammarschooljim - November 5, 2010

    Sorry Pat on comment 21. You can’t put a comma before an and. It is bad Grammar.

    32. jas_montreal - November 5, 2010

    annoying nitpicking.

    33. keachick - November 5, 2010

    Using the term “hyperspace” instead of “warp” is a definite no-no. However, when people talk about all the different starships, I get a bit lost. Blasphemy, I know, but most of the ships look the same to me. I guess they are a bit like cars to me. As long as they can safely get me from A to B with a reasonable level of comfort, the fact they are this model and year, rather than that model and year, is neither here nor there to me.

    34. Mattyb.uk - November 5, 2010

    Star Trek fans are so perdantic lol. Loved the artical

    35. Jeyl - November 5, 2010

    You think this was bad? You should have seen the “Attack of the Show” segment hosted by Chris Gore where he reviewed the MST3K 20th Anniversary Box Set.

    36. Jai - November 5, 2010

    Ho hum. That photo of Picard is very funny, though ;)

    By the way, “Happy Diwali” to any Sikhs or Hindus reading the blog.

    37. gingerly - November 5, 2010

    @1

    Well, I find that photo incredibly offensive!

    …No kid. :) It’s awesome.

    38. Darkwing - November 5, 2010

    Hey, I have one of those comics! Cool!

    39. kesseljunkie - November 5, 2010

    @ #4

    I just laughed myself silly. Bravo.

    40. Holger - November 5, 2010

    Anyone remember “Get a life.”? First thing that came to my mind when I read this.

    41. Phil - November 5, 2010

    Wow…no one crashed the boards on this…this…well, much ado about nothing.

    42. Ralph F - November 5, 2010

    #18 – “It made wonder, ‘Would the Enterprise-D footage be reused as the Enterprise-E?’ It made me wonder, ‘Would the Enterprise-E be a galaxy class ship?”

    At some point during the recent STAR TREK auctions — where they sold everything (my opinion — to quote Indy, “That belongs in a museum!”), there was a picture of the filming model of the TNG ENTERPRISE (1701-D) but the picture of the saucer said USS ENTERPRISE, NCC-1701-E, and there was a note from Okuda that they briefly toyed with the idea of giving them another Galaxy-class ship when working the script for FIRST CONTACT (as with all things, the budget would decide if they got a new ship or not, since there was a lot more than just a new model to pay for — if they kept the Galaxy-class, for instance, they could re-use the standing sets from GENERATIONS).

    43. Trek Or Treat - November 5, 2010

    #6 LOL!

    44. Shaun - November 5, 2010

    #7: “Is that Vampira from Ed Wood on the left hand comic?”

    it looks like helena bonham carter. crazy!

    45. Rich - November 5, 2010

    I have ALL of those comics. Are they worth anything?

    46. Tony Whitehead - November 5, 2010

    This article was worth it if only for just the pic of Picard.

    47. Daoud - November 5, 2010

    @26 That’s a bunch of BANTHA SHAT!

    Han shot first! Star Wars isn’t superior to Trek when it comes to nitpicking.

    Star Wars just tries to cover its tracks by releasing new versions of old crap and claiming it’s “how it was supposed to be”.

    To paraphrase the Talosians, SW fans have their illusions, and we ST fans have ours. The mainstream looks at all of us and rolls their eyes.

    48. Daoud - November 5, 2010

    @28 The Talosians aren’t the villain. Doesn’t mean that they’re not in it…. after all, from their p.o.v. they were just working with animals in their zoological gardens. Not that different from Jack Hanna in a way. I’m sure everyone would enjoy seeing Chris Pine in leather on a leash on the Tonight Show as Jack Hanna demonstrates the human species, eh? j/k

    49. Harry Ballz - November 5, 2010

    Hey, apparently NBC just cancelled JJ’s show “Undercovers”!

    Wonder what took them so long?

    50. Rick - November 5, 2010

    Damn I am glad that the new Star Trek’s time line blew away all that nonsense about the different Enterprises. I’ve been a Star Trek fan since 1970 and even I can’t keep track of all the different versions of the Entrerprise and every excuse they find after blowing it up to bring it back. The US Navy typically names carriers after presidents or admirals. It is time to retire the Enterprise name and follow the US Navy and name the next big starship the U.S.S. Kirk!!!

    51. garen - November 5, 2010

    wow…how am i the first one to say it? “This is a disaster!”

    52. AJ - November 5, 2010

    Sounds like the Australians are “taking the piss.”

    We can take it!

    53. Buzz Cagney - November 5, 2010

    Wow what a non-story!

    54. They call me Stasiu - November 5, 2010

    “We’re also sorry for any errors in this apology”
    How very Monty Python-ish! :-D

    55. Red Dead Ryan - November 5, 2010

    49

    You answered your own question when you mentioned NBC!

    A bunch of monkeys can make better decisions than the folks who are currently running the network!

    56. WannaBeatle - November 5, 2010

    which reminds me, I was just chatting to my friend yesterday about tons of newscasters still say Star TRACK, but manage to say TREKKIES correctly. Wouldn’t you be a TRACKIE if you were a huge STAR TRACK fan???

    57. Bren - November 5, 2010

    31 – YOU JUST NITPICKED THE NITPICK OF THE NITPICK OF THE NITPICK… omg, it’s full of stars!

    50 – You do realise that the US Navy (or perhaps Airforce?) have had a line of Battleships and Aircraft Carriers named Enterprise since the 20’s or earlier, right? The Second World War Enterprise has some bad-ass combat stories to tell, go read it’s wiki page.

    Jisaw linked me to this story days ago… no offence, Anthony, but a bit slow on the uptake lately.

    58. Bren - November 5, 2010

    OOH 56! Let’s you and me make a show called Star Track. About… space railways or something… YEAH!

    59. LJ - November 5, 2010

    “Damn I am glad that the new Star Trek’s time line blew away all that nonsense about the different Enterprises. I’ve been a Star Trek fan since 1970 and even I can’t keep track of all the different versions of the Entrerprise and every excuse they find after blowing it up to bring it back. The US Navy typically names carriers after presidents or admirals. It is time to retire the Enterprise name and follow the US Navy and name the next big starship the U.S.S. Kirk!!!”

    The name Enterprise pre-dates the US Navy. There have been more Royal Navy Enterprises (HMS Enterprise – as seen in the ‘Enterprise’ title sequence) than US (I think HMS Enterprise x 10 vs. USS Enterprise x 8 – sure somebody will correct me if I’m wrong), up to and including today. I think this fits perfectly when you look at Kirk as a circa 18-19th century British Imperial Camptain along the lines of Cook, Cochrane, Nelson, et. al. Picard fits the imperial role of roving ambassador and diplomat even more snugly.

    Furthermore, the original HMS Enterprize was a captured French prize, thus the name ‘Enterprise’ serves as a fitting memento of all the great explorers from the world’s three historical western superpowers. And those who came ‘later': Captain April (English, according to novels); Kirk (American); and Picard (Anglo-French).

    My apologies for any perceived national, etc. bias: this was not intended. Merely an illustration.

    60. LJ - November 5, 2010

    Sorry for such a long post, but ‘Enterprise’ always seems a very British name for a ship to me, just like ‘Temeraire”. The funny thing is these were both French first. No disrespect to our French partners (the CJEF is a brilliant idea), but my passion is British maritime history. And my family straddles Normandy, Southern England and Ireland: the curse of genealogy!

    61. Losira - November 5, 2010

    In defense of nitpickers I suppose that they and others want trek to be trek. If we stray off course without navigational correction trek would no longer be trek in what its about and for what it stands for. Not to mention all characters and ships would be strangers and deluted. Beyond recignition. But tack is always tastefull the media has always strayed away from facts. So canon is a safeguard in preserving Roddenberry’s vision and dream. A little fun and storytelling in comics does not realy stray far from cannon just bends it a bit. That’s ok as long as they don’t jump the shark. A lot of non-canon storys were very well written. And a line of boundries was drawn and honoerd for the most part. I have to admit these errors were pretty funny maybe they are bad spellers heaven knows my spelling leaves lots to be desired. However I swear I didn’t write this article LOL HeHE!!

    62. RK - November 5, 2010

    “And still gets it wrong”? You’re aware these guys were writing a joke piece, right?

    63. Anthony Pascale - November 5, 2010

    you are aware that i was joking, right? read the whole article perhaps

    64. Bucky2 - November 5, 2010

    I think the original post by the Aussies is kinda correct. It does imply that Kirk’s NCC-1701 was directly replaced by the NCC-1701-E, which is not true. However, it also kind of is. The NCC-1701-E is a replacement for the NCC-1701, just about a 100+ years later and a few ships in between. But they’re still both ships named Enterprise, and the Ent-E did replace the original NCC. And the NX-01 for that matter. It’s just leaving out information but not incorrect.

    65. Cody A - November 5, 2010

    Just curious as i have not read the comics ( though I do have the star trek dvd with comics waiting for a slow day at work)

    But from ST III to ST IV how does Kirk command the Excelsior? After III wasn’t he and crew fugutives in the Federation?

    Like I said I have not read the comics so I am afraid I am missing a critical point.

    66. TJ Trek - November 5, 2010

    okey, I think that anyone who takes any of this serious on any side, is kinda dumb for missing an oppurtunity to just have a good laugh. Dude, don’t we need more of that these days……that’s what I thought.

    67. chrisfawkes.com - November 5, 2010

    Australians, what do you expect from a bunch of convicts.

    68. Harry Ballz - November 5, 2010

    67.

    Uh, oh…………….

    69. Basement Blogger - November 5, 2010

    Anthony, I was laughing at “Your mum’s lunch’s “superior intellect when he said that Kirk captained the Excelsior class, Enterprise B when.you nitpicked that by pointing out he was given the actual Excelsior in a DC comic book. What?! There was a DC comic book between ST: III and ST: IV? That’s awsome.

    Maybe we should have an ultimate Star Trek trivia contest. Perhaps bring the champions of the Trek sites together and whoever thinks they’ve got the superior intellect. Get Alex Trebek to host. Oh, and it covers non-canon Star Trek, comics, videogames and novels. Then we see if Vegas takes bets and bet on Anthony. Okay the last part is not very Roddenberry but I got to get out of the basement.

    70. Basement Blogger - November 5, 2010

    Hold on. Johnny Picard is giving me the bird. Hey, back at you. Q are you seeing this?

    71. Disinvited - November 6, 2010

    #3.

    It wasn’t a what but a who: Robert Smigel, the SNL skit writer who admits his comedic roots as a Comedy Bully which reached fruition in his alter ego, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.

    72. Pierss - November 6, 2010

    I didn’t realize that Kirk & Co met Bellatrix LeStrange

    73. Bob Tompkins *still kickin'* - November 6, 2010

    I always thought that the comics between the movies used a lot of genius to bridge the gap between the movies. The comic writers were always aware that affairs had to be more or less restored to the way they were at the end of the previous movie in order to incorporate the new movie into the series, but still tell interesting stories. For the most part, though non-canonistic, the stories were good.

    IMHO

    74. Anthony Pascale - November 6, 2010

    Basement Blogger

    I dont think i would win a trek trivia contest. I have friends and other site contributors who know more of the details than I. Clearly Alex and Mark would know more about comics than just about anyone.

    I am sure many of the readers of this site could beat me in a trivia contest.

    75. Jack2211 - November 6, 2010

    I, shamefully, remember getting into an argument in 1989 with a smarter guy in dorm about whether the saucer section of the Enterprise-E had warp. I – basing my answer on one of the TNG novels – said, repeatedly and incorrectly, that yes, it did… and then I made up something about integrated nacelles.

    This was a fun story (on a fun story). I enjoy this site, more and more.

    76. Tiberius - November 8, 2010

    The article was even mentioned in latest podcast from the Sci-Guys
    http://www.sci-guys.com/content/2010/11/06/sci-guys-podcast-043/

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