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‘Girls on Film’ Recreate Star Trek 2009 Scene – Recasting Kirk & Pike With Actresses January 18, 2011

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Fan Productions,Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback

Have you ever wondered what Star Trek might be like if James T. Kirk was female? (Jane T. Kirk?) Well The Girls On Film project has, and decided to take a crack at it by recreating a scene from the 2009 Star Trek movie with actresses playing the parts of Kirk and Pike. Check it out below.

 

Girls on Film take on Star Trek

In short, "The Girls on Film" project describes its mission thusly "we take great film scenes between men and recreate them with women." So far the fledgling project has taken on scenes from The Town and Fight Club, and this week they released their third scene, one from the 2009 Star Trek movie. They chose the "I dare you to do better" bar talk between young James T. Kirk and Captain Pike. Here it is:

The Girls on Film version is pretty impressive. Here is the original for comparison

The Girls on Film team is comprised of actresses Ashleigh Harrington (who played Kirk) and Cat McCormick, along with director Jeff Hammond. For the Star Trek scene they brought in actress Katerina Taxia to play Pike.  

In an email to TrekMovie, the GoF team talked about why they do what they do:

What is the goal of The Girls on Film?

Ashleigh: Part of our goal in creating The Girls on Film was to satisfy our own creativity and passion for movies by putting ourselves in their leading roles and director’s chair and making ourselves a part of the work we would like to be involved with.

Flipping the genders reflects our collective quirkiness; we want to have fun with our work! Additionally, we want to give our viewers a fresh reason to tune into our episodes. Go online and you can see tons of movie recreations people have filmed on handi-cams in their basements, so lets approach the recreation thing from a new angle: what would a female Kirk be like? I wonder, if Pike was a woman, would she be bitchy or motherly?

With the popularity of Youtube and social networking over the last few years, as storytellers, we have this incredible gift of an audience at our fingertips that is hungry for great entertainment and looking for it 24/7. We want to cater to those people and make something unique and of quality.

Jeff Hammond: The Girls on Film concept is awesome and will inspire viewership. Because of this, people are going to be able to see that we can act, we can direct, shoot, and create professional work. There are multiple ways to get into the Entertainment industry and we’re just taking a new approach.

Q: Why chose Star Trek and this particular scene?

Ashleigh: Star Trek has been at the top of our list since we started dreaming up this project. Its such an iconic, positive story that has inspired and entertained generations, which equals great work for us to try our hand at and a large audience to reach out to.
Jeff, Cat and I are huge fans of JJ Abrams. He is such a talented director and his skill at balancing action with character driven story is unparalleled. His influence along with the smart writing and acting made this movie a clear choice for us.

This particular scene is such an important moment in the story and Bruce Greenwood and Chris Pine do an incredible job. It was an easy pick mainly because of their talent but also because of the simplicity of the set. Recreating the bar was a much easier task for us than building a bridge set!

As our budget on the series increases we plan on doing one or two more scenes from this movie. You can count on seeing Spock on The Girls on Film in the future!

For more and to see other clips, visit  www.thegirlsonfilm.com.

 

 

 

Comments

1. The TOS Purist aka The Purolator - January 18, 2011

Heh, that’s pretty awesome. “Real” Hollywood films should have more female protagonists in movies that AREN’T labelled as “chick flicks.”

For example…why couldn’t Flynn have had a daughter who tried to save him in “Tron: Legacy?” But of course it had to be a White Male. Hell, they could even have kept the name Sam…

2. Rocket Scientist - January 18, 2011

A fun idea, and executed pretty well.

3. MJ - January 18, 2011

Pretty darn good ! The Capt Pike chic’s acting was outstanding. The Kirk chic was just OK.

4. et - January 18, 2011

Am I jerk if I think their acting isn’t up to the level of the original?

Though in all fairness, how many actors out there are up to the level of Pine and Greenwood?

5. Allen Williams - January 18, 2011

Wow it looks so much better without the lens flares.

6. Joe Sidney - January 19, 2011

More impressed with Pine’s performance after seeing this

7. Adam E - January 19, 2011

That was fun to watch. Looking forward to more scenes.

8. Thehaggard - January 19, 2011

The kirkish lady is good… the pikish lady phoned her lines in and has all the ear marks of being able to do better than she did in this clip… but… for an amateur performance they did well. They should continue and gain experience and familiarity with the medium. They have a future.

9. StarBlazer - January 19, 2011

This was awesome. You can really see a difference in the way a female would act as Kirk. Not as drunk but just an emotional wreck inside. Great job kirk..or miss kirk.;)

10. The First Son of Krypton - January 19, 2011

That was actually very good. I think Kirk and Pike as women would probably be better for the modern cinema age then as men.

Take BSG for example, Starbuck and Boomer became women. It was a move for the better and a stroke of genius. @boborci, can you re-reboot trek with gender reversal :p

Oh… And I still want a Kelvin salt shaker :(

11. Phobos - January 19, 2011

Very good! I got into it.

12. ProperTrekkieUk (aka OfficialSpudUk) - January 19, 2011

Wow, some of you are more then a little patronising!

I say excellent job!!

13. Will_H - January 19, 2011

Good production value, the actress doing Kirk did not too bad, the other left too much emotion out of the scene, though. Seems like it has the potential to be pretty good, though.

14. Aurore - January 19, 2011

Well done ladies!

15. Vernon Wilmer - January 19, 2011

EXTREMELY well done, I like it better than the actual movie.
But there should be boobs.

16. Anthony Thompson - January 19, 2011

Enjoyed this a lot! And their glass was more interesting than the one in the movie. : )

17. I'm Dead Jim! - January 19, 2011

It might have been more fun to see the bar fight scene. (Meow!)

18. I'm Dead Jim! - January 19, 2011

Sorry.

19. Nomad - January 19, 2011

“I couldn’t believe it when the bartender told me who you are….. your father’s son.”
I wouldn’t have believed it either!

20. Mel - January 19, 2011

Great work!

21. Sheldon Cooper - January 19, 2011

Two observations:

1) No lens flares.

2) JTKILF.

With apologies.

22. Sheldon Cooper - January 19, 2011

One more thought:

3) Women can’t be starship captains. – Janice Lester

23. Vernon Wilmer - January 19, 2011

Use Bruce Greenwood and the blond chick, and we have a movie.

24. Author of "The Vulcan Neck Pinch for Fathers" - January 19, 2011

The blond chick might actually be a reason to use 3D….

25. chrisfawkes.com - January 19, 2011

Didn’t they do battle star galactica or something?

26. CmdrR - January 19, 2011

The scene where Kirk attempts to pick-up Uhura could be interesting…

27. ST:EXP - January 19, 2011

The girl who played Pike was in a student film of ours in 1999 in Toronto.

Funny to see how she looks now.

28. James Lytle - January 19, 2011

HaHa, that was an interesting take. Is it me or have fan films died off this year?

29. felixpuddin - January 19, 2011

Spectacular! Spectacular!

30. captain_neill - January 19, 2011

Cause they are fans of JJ ABrams does that mean they only like this Star Trek and none of the others?

31. MikeTen - January 19, 2011

@22, Janice Lester was insane, how could Mrs. Roddenberry’s character Number One be first officer for Capt. Pike if there was no chance of becoming Captain, and she did take command of the Enterprise when Pike was captured.
I think the women did a good job, some of the dialog should have been switched ( daughter instead of son). It would be great to see a female Kirk, especially since this is a alternate universe.

32. RobertZ - January 19, 2011

In the book Star Trek New Voyages 2, authors Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath short story “The Procrustean Petard”, did have Captain Kirk become a woman.

I loved their work.

33. Richard Dawson's Ruffled Shirt - January 19, 2011

For what it was – an excercise in filmmaking – this was great fun to watch.

34. captain_neill - January 19, 2011

nice recreation

35. Daoud - January 19, 2011

No credit to the writers of the scene? Shame on them.

36. Dee - January 19, 2011

Yes as a joke is funny … but thankfully Bruce Greenwood and Chris Pine have done “much better” …. LOL …in fact this scene defined Chris Pine like young Kirk, I think!

37. StarBlazer - January 19, 2011

They do credit the writers and creators. Its in the description on YouTube.
“”
An excerpt from the movie Star Trek (2009)
originally directed by JJ Abrams, starring Chris Pine and Bruce Greenwood.

Presented here by The Girls on Film
Directed by Jeff Hammond, starring Ashleigh Harrington and Katerina Taxia.
Created by Jeff Hammond, Ashleigh Harrington and Cat McCormick.

Written by Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman”"

38. falcon - January 19, 2011

Meh. The editing could have been tighter. The interaction between the characters wasn’t as dynamic as that between Pine and Greenwood in the original.

That said, it was OK.

39. AJ - January 19, 2011

What a fun concept. I think Harrington does Pine/Kirk to a tee, and Ms. Taxia does fine as Pike, though pushing through that level of gravitas that Greenwood manages at the end is a mighty endeavor indeed.

40. losira - January 19, 2011

I think it was excellant and quite a spin. on this Kirk and Pike scene. where was the kleenix that was supposed to have been stuck up She Kirk’s nose.? LOL

41. jas_montreal - January 19, 2011

I wonder if boborci and the team ever considered casting captain kirk anything other then a male/white man in the new trek ? Sorta like how Ronald D Moore casted Starbuck as a female character, where the original starbuck was a male OR how Adama was recast as a latino character, versus the original non-latino character.

42. gingerly - January 19, 2011

I dig this. :)

…And now I’m picturing that fight scene wherein tipsy female!Kirk prevents his fall by falling into a hot black guy version of Uhura.

OH MY!

@41

New Starbuck was such an improvement over the old one and that isn’t because she was female. It was because she was simply, more awesome.

For that one episode of the Bionic Woman reboot I saw, all I could think was why didn’t they cast Katee Sackhoff as the Bionic Woman instead??

43. jas_montreal - January 19, 2011

@42

“and that isn’t because she was female”.

I agree.

I’m wondering if it was even considered or was the team VERY loyal to the past and did not wish to radically change the formula. If they found a better Kirk in a female-actor, then would they change the character ?

44. Imrahil - January 19, 2011

Mostly I find it disturbing to see a beautiful woman with blood running down her face. It keeps striking me as an abuse video, and leaves me revolted when I log on.

45. Jeff Hammond - January 19, 2011

Thanks for the comments everyone! If you have a second toss a few comments on YouTube!
Jeff – director of The Girls On Film.com

46. Adam C - January 19, 2011

pffft girls cant talk deeep

47. Janeway's Knickers - January 19, 2011

17

LOL

48. Red Dead Ryan - January 19, 2011

Alright, I thought the “female perspective” film was fun. But no way were these actresses even close to being on the level of Chris Pine and Bruce Greenwood.

#10

“I think Kirk and Pike as women would probably be better for the modern cinema age than men.”

“Take BSG for example, Starbuck and Boomer became women. It was a move for the better and a stroke of genius.”

I’m actually glad that the new guys kept James T. Kirk as a male. Remaking him as a woman would have changed the character and the Kirk-Spock-McCoy dynamic. Part of his appeal is his masculinity and ability with the ladies. And how would making Kirk and Pine women be better for the modern audiences anyway?

BSG, on the other hand, was a remake of the original BSG which was a poor man’s “Star Wars” with very few female characters. The show wasn’t nearly the icon that “Star Trek: The Original Series” is. When Ron Moore decided to reimagine the show, he switched Boomer and Starbuck’s genders to female to add a new dimension and to appeal to female fans.
The original show had too much testosterone and Moore wanted to break away from that. Plus, the new BSG has no connection with the old show. There was no continuity to uphold.

49. Khan was Framed! - January 19, 2011

I appreciate that no alterations were done to the gender context of the script “your father’s son” for example, i think this is key to the success of the project.

If it was changed to “your mother’s daughter” it would become trite & seem to be a feminist propaganda piece.

Wisely done.

But I don’t really see this as radical or as any type of social commentary, its just two different actors doing the scene. Their gender is completely irrelevant.

If it’s designed as a statement about gender roles, you’re about 40 years too late for that.

50. gingerly - January 19, 2011

@48

Plausibility doesn’t change because of a switch in gender. Talent-level doesn’t change because of gender. The character’s motivations and feelings don’t even change because of gender.

The only thing that gender changes is just that, gender. Everything else is changed by the individual’s abilities.

Which….you guessed it, has nothing to do with gender.

I take exception to the idea that Battlestar’s gender-change was somehow okay, because the show wasn’t as iconic as Star Trek.

51. Tanner Waterbury - January 19, 2011

So I guess in that universe, Capt. Christine Pike convinced Jane T Kirk to join Starfleet afterall…

52. Red Dead Ryan - January 19, 2011

50

Did you even bother reading my post? There most definitely would be changes in the character. There are slight differences in how a woman would approach things versus how a man would. Yes, a female Kirk would have the same talent and motivations. But how she’d interact with the crew would be different. The Kirk-Spock-McCoy dynamic would be different. Plus his reputation as a ladies man is legendary. You’d have to change that part of the character. And if you did make Kirk a woman, would you still go with the name or change it? Because James T. Kirk is a masculine name. Even in this day and age of political correctness. And if you chose something else, like Jane T. Kirk, it sounds like a rip-off. And if you go with an entirely different name, then you might as well change the names of Spock and McCoy as well, or change their genders as well.

Secondly, “Battlestar Galactica” is a totally different beast entirely. The new series was only loosely based on the old. Ron Moore wasn’t interested in picking up where it left off, or doing a prequel. The original characters weren’t as three-dimensional or fleshed out as the original Kirk was.

You’ll never see James Bond or Indiana Jones recast as a woman. Why? Because of their masculinity, which is part of the charm for both men and women in different ways. James Kirk has similarities to those two iconic figures.

53. Paulaner - January 19, 2011

Impressive.

54. DarthDogg - January 19, 2011

Needs more lense flair!

55. The TOS Purist aka The Purolator - January 19, 2011

For the record, Janice Lester NEVER said that “women can’t be starship captains” – she said “Your world of starship captains doesn’t admit women.” What she was referring to was the same issue Kirk brought up many times when talking about his loneliness – that being a captain of a starship means being “married to your ship,” in which case you can’t really have a relationship with a real woman.

56. Sebastian - January 19, 2011

The actress playing Pike was REALLY stiff; like she was just cold reading the whole thing (and badly, at that). The actress playing Kirk was marginally better.

But it’s just odd hearing women calling each other ‘son’ and ‘man.’ And to those who think this is what New BSG did with Starbuck? Not exactly; New Starbuck (aka Kara Thrace) was not just a woman reading ‘male’ dialogue; she was a fully realized, re-imagined character who only shared a few traits, skills and a call-sign with her predecessor.

57. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - January 19, 2011

Pretty kool. Kirk and Pike as women. Would not mind seeing Spock and Uruah as women. Opps. Well Someone had to say it. Lol.

58. somethoughts - January 19, 2011

epic scene, really tugs at your heart strings and sets up the development of our hero. Kudos to Bob and Alex.

59. Dr. Cheis - January 19, 2011

I like the guy version better.

60. Imrahil - January 19, 2011

Uruah?

61. jas_montreal - January 19, 2011

@52.

“Did you even bother reading my post?”

Nope, because i really don’t care about your opinion or criticism about my statement.

62. Rico - January 19, 2011

Really weird watching that. The actress playing Pike just seemed off. Pike was much more relaxed but authoritative in the real movie.

63. Andy Patterson - January 19, 2011

I liked that better than the movie. Like the Kirk better too.

64. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - January 19, 2011

LOL

They used the Old Shaw Bros. Music . Points for that alone

65. ncc-73515 - January 19, 2011

2 girls 1 glass?

66. Lt. Bailey - January 19, 2011

Vernon,

I think you have hit upon the right idea.

67. keachick - January 19, 2011

That was good. However, there are one or two words that were inappropriate and should have been changed. No, this person was not “your father’s son”; she was “your father’s daughter”. I doubt she would be called Jim, but possibly Jane.

Just by making those two simple corrections, then it could be just as convincing as the original scene, with the male Kirk and Pike. Silly omissions really.

Overall, though, it was very good.

68. Dee - January 19, 2011

If interest to someone … Alex Kurtzman began filming “Welcome to People” with CP today! … but I want to talk as SOON … Welcome to Star Trek 2012! :-) ..SOON!

And before I forget, CP was so gorgeous on set!! …LOL!

69. Dee - January 19, 2011

#67 keachick

Search for the photos if you have not seen yet!

70. Scott - January 19, 2011

Is that the actual footage from ST09? The camera work is horrible. The camera is bobbing and weaving. I did not notice that in the movie. I need to pull the dvd out and take a look. If that is the actual footage then JJ needs a tripod.

71. Troubled Tribble - January 19, 2011

they were rubbish.
Not cos they are women, they are just bad actors.

72. keachick - January 19, 2011

#69 Are those the nice pics you posted to the Welcome to People IMDb board? I have bookmarked them already. They are not on JustJared though. I hope we see more pics like these. We’ve not heard anything from Bob Orci, so I guess he is on set as well. He is one of the producers.

I hope Chris’s character won’t have a beard. When I look at the photos again, I kinda see what you mean though – the beginnings of a beard? Still, as long as he has more hair on his head than on his face…

Anthony – can you give any update, photos etc of Welcome to People? It would be so cool if you could. And then there is the Star Trek sequel – oh well, patience is a virtue…

I know, so cheesy, so clicheed, but one or two of us do pine for the Pine, just a tiny, tiny wee bit…;)

73. Red Dead Ryan - January 19, 2011

52

I wasn’t responding to your posts moron!

74. Red Dead Ryan - January 19, 2011

I meant

#61

I wasn’t responding to your posts moron!

75. Spectre-7 - January 19, 2011

I wasn’t blinded by any girly lens flares so the whole thing didn’t seem real to me…

76. Austin J - January 19, 2011

Buh. That was…. Teri-Bad.

I mean… that was just… ugh, the acting was dry, “kirk” was… lame, Pike…. no no no no no… Valiant effort, I guess… but maybe “Girls on film” should hire better actresses.

Almost makes the original worth watching again…

77. Elliot - January 19, 2011

Yeah. Not the best stuff there…

78. MJ - January 19, 2011

” 52. Red Dead Ryan – January 19, 2011: ” 50 — Did you even bother reading my post? There most definitely would be changes in the character. There are slight differences in how a woman would approach things versus how a man would. Yes, a female Kirk would have the same talent and motivations. But how she’d interact with the crew would be different. The Kirk-Spock-McCoy dynamic would be different. Plus his reputation as a ladies man is legendary. You’d have to change that part of the character. And if you did make Kirk a woman, would you still go with the name or change it? Because James T. Kirk is a masculine name. Even in this day and age of political correctness. And if you chose something else, like Jane T. Kirk, it sounds like a rip-off. And if you go with an entirely different name, then you might as well change the names of Spock and McCoy as well, or change their genders as well. Secondly, “Battlestar Galactica” is a totally different beast entirely. The new series was only loosely based on the old. Ron Moore wasn’t interested in picking up where it left off, or doing a prequel. The original characters weren’t as three-dimensional or fleshed out as the original Kirk was.
You’ll never see James Bond or Indiana Jones recast as a woman. Why? Because of their masculinity, which is part of the charm for both men and women in different ways. James Kirk has similarities to those two iconic figures.”

I agree completely RDR. And what would be the point of trying to pretend that there are no differences between the sexes here…that is being obtuse.

79. Captain Dunsel - January 19, 2011

Short. Sweet.

Fail.

Sorry gals. It’s not the characters you failed to live up to but the performances.

80. Joe_Yo_Mama - January 19, 2011

Horrible!

81. JordyLaGorge - January 19, 2011

Does nobody realize that there aren’t any lens flares in this particular scene??? Watch the original!!!

82. MarkT - January 19, 2011

Wow, that was painful.

83. Harry Ballz - January 19, 2011

3 words of advice for these women:

TAKE ACTING LESSONS!!!!!!!!

84. fallynleaf - January 19, 2011

#52 and #78 and others of the same mindset:

What are these “slight differences in how a woman would approach things versus how a man would”?

Just curious.

I don’t thing gender really has much to do with it at all. There can be very masculine women and very feminine men. And there can be everything in between.

And regarding Indiana Jones? What is so masculine about him that a woman couldn’t also be? Women can fight, can spring and survive ancient booby traps, can steal artifacts and hold their own in an action sequence. Look at Xena, from Xena: Warrior Princess. Her character has many generally considered male traits. And yes, she seduces men. But as someone already pointed out, Kirk is “a ladies man”, so seducing and/or going after multiple romantic/sexual partners isn’t really gender specific.

There are differences between the two sexes: biological ones, which can’t easily be changed. But regarding gender, it’s a completely different story. Gender isn’t very easy to define. In fact, it’s a culturally defined concept and not a universal constant at all (despite what TOS tries to say about it in the episode “Metamorphosis”). Many societies in the world have more than a binary gender system, and gender and sex don’t always match up.

So, let me revise my question:

Why should the western concept of what is feminine or masculine have to affect the biological sex of a character?

Feminine and masculine in this sense are being used in terms of gender, as opposed to sex, so they aren’t universal constants, either.

A female Kirk could very much act the same as a male Kirk. What would be different about her? Assuming that everything remains the same concerning the nature and tone of her relationships with Spock and McCoy, it wouldn’t change either dynamic unless one chooses to search for it. One could very much choose to read girl!Kirk and Spock, or girl!Kirk and McCoy’s relationship as a romantic one (as I assume that’s what you are referring to by changing the dynamic of the relationship), but then again, one could do the same if Kirk is male.

And where does anyone get the idea that Kirk is the epitome of masculinity? I definitely recall him choosing to refer to himself as a “mother” figure for Nomad in the episode “The Changeling”. And aside from the fact that no one really believed him at first when he claimed to be Kirk despite having Dr. Lester’s body in “The Turnabout Intruder”, Kirk managed to act like himself quite fine in a woman’s body.

As for Kirk being “a ladies man”, this assumption is actually quite untrue in many ways. Yes, Kirk kisses a lot of women, but most of the time, he’s kissing them to gain information/an allegiance or for some other ulterior motive, not because he genuinely wishes to enter into a relationship with them. Again, this is essentially what Xena often does. There is no difference, plot-device-wise, whether it’s a man or a woman doing the seducing of some dan-or-dame-of-the-hour.

One last question, if I may:

If there is some fundamental difference in a character that happens solely because the actor/actress is a different gender, than how did theatre get by throughout most of its history with casting male actors as every single female character without ruining the dynamics between the characters? Wouldn’t the “masculinity” of the males make it impossible for them to portray such obviously female characters?

Because there is a double-standard in our society. A man has the ability to do anything that a woman can, but a woman can’t play the same kind of role as a man, no matter who she is or even which gender she chooses to identify as. If the ancient Greeks and the audiences of Shakespeare’s plays could enjoy female roles played by men, then why can’t we enjoy “male” roles played by women?

85. Red Dead Ryan - January 19, 2011

84

I never said women can’t play Kirk. They can, but it wouldn’t be exactly the same since there are inevetibly going to be slight differences in how to approach the character. Whether it be humor, emotion, dramatic scenes or even body language. Plus various “Star Trek” episodes and movies have made Kirk into an idealistic male authority figure. So that would have to be rewritten.

I realize that men have played female roles. And vice versa. But neither gender will ever be able to totally replicate the other’s traits. Our brains are slightly different. We think differently. Men have a bigger sex drive and are far more prone to violence. Women are better organizers. They can multitask better. Women are also better at nurturing. Male and female neural pathways are slightly different. It’s all hard to describe because most traits are subconscious and hardwired. You have to see it to know it.

Sure, men and women have the same traits. But they’re assembled differently.

86. Harry Ballz - January 19, 2011

And thank GAWD for that!!!

87. Vultan - January 20, 2011

#84

“And regarding Indiana Jones? What is so masculine about him that a woman couldn’t also be?”

Answer: he’s a man. He was written as a man. He’s played by a man. For a female equivalent, check out Tomb Raider. Otherwise, what’s the big deal?

88. Red Dead Ryan - January 20, 2011

86

Yeah, we could have all been hermaphrodites! It would have added new meaning to the phrase “Go F**k Yourself”!

89. MJ - January 20, 2011

@84. “I don’t thing gender really has much to do with it at all”

There are suppose to be differences between men and women — God and/or The Universe made us this way.

Sheesh, Scotty, please beam me out of this thread.

90. keachick - January 20, 2011

Yes, of course, men and women are hardwired differently. They need to be. However, in some areas, there may not be that much difference. I’m not sure about the idea of men having a bigger sex drive – I think that women express it differently.

As for males playing the parts of females in the plays of the past – those parts were all played by pre-pubescent males, so it is not that surprising that some would have been very convincing playing a young woman.

Biologically, we ALL start off being more female. It is only in the second semester of pregnancy do the androgens and other male hormones kick in and start making the feotus male (conceived with the XY chromosomes), physically and otherwise. Maleness and femaleness is what is hardwired into the brain at a very early age and it has to do with biochemistry, hormones etc. In fact, it is thought that, if something goes a little awry in the development of the male child, then you can get later on a child feeling that he is a girl, rather than a boy, even though he has the male physical appendages. Occasionally, you can get a girl feeling as if she is a boy, but that is less common.

Transgender issues isn’t just a guy wondering what it would be like to be a woman. *He* believes/feels that *he* is a woman trapped in a male body.

If our genders were as similar or as simple as some people seem to think, we would not have transgender people. They have always been around.

91. Green-Blooded-Bastard - January 20, 2011

That was hard to watch. I would think if you want to be an actor/actress, ones time would be better spent perfecting one’s chops and not making cutesy home-brew videos of better-performed movie scenes. I see this on You Tube all the time, and they can’t act there either.

92. NX01 - January 20, 2011

I don’t like the scene without the Lens Flare.

No Lens Flare takes me out of the scene.

Other than that the scene is good.

Having women in the scene changes the entire Dynamic.

Thank you to the staff for posting this. It was really cool to see something different.

This is yet another Star Trek alternate reality.

93. TrekMadeMeWonder - January 20, 2011

there were no lens flares in the original scene, guys.
However, the camera jitters needed much improvement.

94. Niall Johnson - January 20, 2011

Good effort, perhaps a little rushed and mis-emphasized in some lines of dialogue, but fun nonetheless. I’m glad it wasn’t too much of an imitation.

95. Dee - January 20, 2011

If they were two good actresses doing this scene, I’m sure it would sound better … but just for a joke is okay … I think! … I’d rather not be too hard on them!

# 72keachick

Yes! …I saw just those photos for now!

96. Majicou - January 20, 2011

Rule 63 even for live action, huh?

#55:
Minor debate over Lester’s meaning continues, but even if she did mean that women couldn’t be captains at that time, it’s been ignored in all later productions–and rightly so. It’s illogical and completely against the basic premise of ST that humans would overcome our various hang-ups only to take a giant step backward in the 23rd century. It could be put down to Lester’s being crazy, or it could be lumped in with things like how they couldn’t initially decide what century the show was set in or who gave the Enterprise its orders.

97. Tyrone Alfonso - January 20, 2011

wow…. girls are dumb.

98. gingerly - January 20, 2011

@89

MJ, you’ve put your foot in your mouth about gays a long time back (but you changed your tune, good on you) and now you’re doing it for women.

Don’t be mad because someone called you on it. Of course, women are built differently, but for the purposes of the show, there is no reason why women couldn’t play the same characters we’ve come to love.

Heck, Number One *was* our true first Spock, after all.

99. Anthony Thompson - January 20, 2011

Bob, find a spot for Ashleigh in the sequel!

100. I'm Dead Jim! - January 20, 2011

I missed that little “snort” that Chris Pine delivered in this scene and was disappointed when the actress didn’t do it. Would have been funny if she had. Otherwise, kudos for trying!

101. NX-UESPA Class StarShip - January 20, 2011

Fantastic Job, Girls On Film:

That was way, way much better than that JJ guy did. You girls rock! Now that was Star Trek! JJ guy’s version is still Star Trek 90210.

By the way, there is a female version of James T. Kirk. Her name is Janet Tamera Kirk of the F.S.S. Enterprise. She is a 3-D character from the comic series “Nova Trek”, created by M.D. Bruffy.

She has a sister name Tamara and she is married to Mr. Spock. She belongs to an organisation similar to the Federation. Actually it is the Federation but in a different time-line. Known as Federal Union of Planets.

Here are the three links to read Mr. Bruffy’s Nova Trek Novels:

1) Gains and Losses –
http://www.usstamerlane.com/post/Nova_Trek_Gains_and_Losses_by_mdbruffy.pdf

2) Guardian’s Child –
http://www.usstamerlane.com/post/Guardian's_Child.pdf

3) Assignment Yesterday –
http://usstamerlane.com/post/Nova_Trek-Assignment-Yesterday.pdf

Mr. Bruffy worked really hard in creating these novels. So, please give him tons of credits for the effort.

Thanks and enjoy.

102. Jack2211 - January 20, 2011

I kind of wanted them to make out. Although not quite as much as I wanted pine and greenwood to make out.

103. Captain Kirks Toupee - January 20, 2011

pretty neat, but neither one really pulled me in to the scene…they seemed like they were acting. pike seemed a to wooden and didn’t give me the feel that greenwod did, like a seasoned warrior/commander saw someting in Kirk that he didn’t see himself.

But neat all the same and a tremendous effort on their part.

104. MJ - January 20, 2011

@98. “MJ, you’ve put your foot in your mouth about gays a long time back (but you changed your tune, good on you) and now you’re doing it for women.”

As Dr. McCoy would put it, this is Gingerly’s revenge for all those arguments she lost!

105. denny cranium - January 20, 2011

I think the Kirk did did a good job. The Pike girl not so much.
For everyone tearing them down they probably weren’t given the luxury of multiple takes and the direction abilities of JJ (no slight at the director of this clip)
They probably had 4 hours or so to shoot this.
Taken in the context of shooting directing and editing this film?
Well done ladies.

106. Phaser Guy - January 20, 2011

Hey, it was just like Star Trek Voyager.

107. Tyrone Alfonso - January 20, 2011

@106

Its bad, but not THAT bad.

108. Dan - January 20, 2011

The acting here is pretty bad!

109. jas_montreal - January 20, 2011

@ 108.

You mean the posts ? Or the video? lol

110. Goraxus - January 20, 2011

Terrible.

111. Dan - January 20, 2011

The acting in the video!

112. Dan - January 20, 2011

@ 109 The acting in the video!

113. Jorg Sacul - January 20, 2011

skipped the comments to add my own… If they would have regendered the dialogue, it would have played more seriously than it did.

114. DJT - January 21, 2011

The acting? I wanna know who went crazy with the ketchup?

115. Missy - January 21, 2011

Fantastic rendition. Kirk and Pike are better than the original!

116. Polly - January 21, 2011

ok I’m all for the idea…

But the acting was terrible, still, I’d like to see how they would do Spock.

117. CFP - January 21, 2011

I don’t know what all you haters are talking about. This is fantastic! Both girls are amazing! And BTW the Captain Pike actress was in Fringe too!
I am sure JJ Abrams knows talent!
Way to go girls!

118. MJ - January 21, 2011

@117. “This is fantastic!”

It is not bad, but “fantastic’? Come on now, dial down the espressos a little bit here. :-)

119. JordyLaGorge - January 21, 2011

I thought the girls did an excellent job! Well done all together. I think TGOF is a wicked idea! This wasn’t meant to be an impression of Pine or Greenwood. These are female takes on these characters.. there own versions. To the people that continue slamming these girls and the talents they bring, just remember that this is a public forum, they are probably reading every angry/frustrated/girls never wanna date me/ type of comments you post. Just becaue you’ve never gotten to third base, doesn’t mean you have the write or expert opinion to judge a performance. If you were true trek fans you would be asking questions like “where did you find that salt shaker” or “how did you re-create the graphic in the background?” These girls do professional work, they arent “new” to the acting world and this doesn’t look like a half assed attempt at a fan film… its more than that and they should be given some respect. If you have nothing nice to say, go on youtube and comment on vids of old ladies falling off chairs or cats and dogs singing the star spangled banner… that deserves to be slammed… not this. Nice job ladies

120. MJ - January 21, 2011

@119. Are you the same person posting until multiple names? You are not CFP from post 177 by chance, are you? ;-)

FYI — people are entitled to their opinions on this board. For my part, I kind of liked it, but it did not blow you away. Sorry if my opinion isn’t the same as yours.

I urge everyone to offer their honest opinions here and not be bullied by anyone into keeping their mouths shut.

121. Jordy Laforge - January 21, 2011

@120, no I’m not CFP. And I’m just saying if you are going to have an opinion, back it up or be constructive. Saying the acting is just terrible or these girls suck isn’t constructive. Just mindless negativity.

122. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - January 21, 2011

Boring and pointless…..

123. Joshua Demers - January 21, 2011

Great work gals!

We need more strong female roles in cinema and more strong female actresses like yourselves to bring them to life!

124. Rich - January 22, 2011

They performed as women but kept the male dialogue! What sense does that make? They couldn’t change a pronoun or a name (Jane for Jim?)

125. MJ - January 22, 2011

@124 “They performed as women but kept the male dialogue! What sense does that make? They couldn’t change a pronoun or a name (Jane for Jim?)”

That is what bothered me — it was nonsensical because they kept the male dialog, which distracted me from their performances. If we are to believe JordyLaGorge above (@121):

“This wasn’t meant to be an impression of Pine or Greenwood. These are female takes on these characters.”

But Jordy, they continued to use the original mail dialogue, which is completely contrary to your comment about them making their own roles with these as takes of female characters?

So Jordy’s comment has been proven completely erroneous here.

126. Rich - January 22, 2011

I think the idea of both characters switching their sex to female is really excellent. Maybe they can work it into a movie – sort of an Avatar-like sub-plot wherein the male personalities are downloaded into female bodies. Come to think of it – maybe this is exactly what the video was doing – it would be logical (if they had switched their personalities to female bodies) for them to still refer to themselves as male. Maybe the video-makers are a lot smarter than me.

127. Sybok's Secret Brother - January 23, 2011

Thanks GOF! Nice work, very enjoyable interpenetration.

128. Kirk - January 27, 2011

OK… I tried to read all the details in the previous127+ posts… but did no one see, or comment on, the authentic-looking broken Kelvin salt shaker at the end? The cut was opposite to the one in the movie, but it looks likje the real McCoy :) Did they get the real prop from the movie, or is someone making replicas of those now?

129. Kirk - January 27, 2011

… and if they did get access to the original Kelvin salt shaker prop, why did they use a regular beer glass, instead of the real movie prop? You’d think they would have made a bunch of the prop glasses, and maybe only one hero prop of the Kelvin salt shaker.

FWIW, I liked the alt-Kirk performance, but not so much the alt-Pike performance…

130. Kerbie14 - January 27, 2011

Great idea, really bad acting.

131. Fantomex - April 29, 2011

@ The TOS Purist aka The Purolator: You are so full of it,it isn’t funny.Tron Legacy worked quite well as a father/son movie better than if it worked as a father/daughter movie, and besides, Flynn Senior had Quorra anyway to play the ‘knight’ and princess role, so I say we all got the best of both worlds.

As to the video in question; Nice, but I would have changed the name of ‘Jim’ to ‘Jen’ as in Jennifer Theodora Kirk.

132. Rob - June 8, 2011

@#1 Agree completely. A daughter as counterpoint to the male heroes of yesterday is a GREAT way to re-examine old characters. And as a bonus, if Sam Flynn was his daughter, we wouldn’t have been subjected to the vapid bourbon growl of fake charisma himbo Garret Helund.

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