JJ Abrams: No Plans To Change Star Trek Sequel Release Date – Still Working On Script March 29, 2011
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Abrams, Star Trek sequel (2013) , trackback
Yesterday we reported that Paramount shuffled around their 2011 production schedule, but was still sticking to their plan to release the Star Trek sequel in the Summer of 2012. Some have wondered if this release date is realistic, but producer (and possible director) JJ Abrams said today there are no plans to change the date. More below
Abrams: No Plans To Change Star Trek Sequel Release Date – Still Working On Script
JJ Abrams was in Las Vegas this week the CinemaCon exhibitor convention, helping Paramount promote his summer movie Super 8. While there ComingSoon asked the producer/director if he thought the June 29, 2012 release date for the Star Trek sequel was "realistic", Abrams replied:
"We’re working on the story. That’s probably more important than the release date at this point, but at the moment, we’re not going to change anything."
Here is video of Abrams comment:
A quick not on “story” vs. “script”. Before you get too worried, we have already reported here at TrekMovie that Abrams had signed off on the story for the sequel back in the fall of 2010, so in this case Abrams is talking more about the script itself. [UPDATE: Bob Orci notes in the comments below "In our worlds they are interchangeable"].
Countdown: 15 months to go
The Star Trek sequel is set to be released exactly 15 months from today. In that time Abrams will have to finish up post-production for Super 8 (due in theaters in June), and go through script approval/green-light/budget, pre-production, production and post-production on the Star Trek sequel…all on top of his other projects. With this kind of workload, it is understandable why some are wondering about the release date, especially with other big summer (and even some winter) 2012 projects already in pre-production or production.
However, it appears that the Abrams team and Paramount are not worried. TrekMovie sources all indicate that the studio is sticking to its plan, and yesterday’s report in Deadline (and Abrams comment today) all seem to back this up.
That being said, things can always change in Hollywood. We saw that yesterday with Moscow (Paramount’s other Chris Pine movie) and of course with the Abrams’ first Star Trek, which was moved from a Christmas 2008 release to May 2009. So stay tuned to TrekMovie for all the latest.
Producer/director J.J. Abrams attends the opening night gala during CinemaCon 2011 at The Colosseum of Caesars Palace on March 28, 2011 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (WireImage)
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FULL SPEED AHEAD!
What is worrisome is that JJ says that they are still working on the STORY, not the script. To me that implies that there are major issues with the story itself, and I suspect it is the case the the script may be in complex flux until the basic storyline gets fixed.
I’ve got a bad feeling about this. Reminds me of when the TNG films were pushed through quick back in the 90’s. They went from script to screen in like nine months.
2. In our worlds,, they r interchangeable.
It is possible that when JJ Abrams says “story”, it is meant to be synonymous with “script”. A script is still the story. It might have something to do with, eg the design of the engineering section of the Enterprise (not much script there, I would think, but still very much part of the story).
Scotty and Bones are holding out on them. If they make too many changes, where could Scotty enjoy his real (not that synthenol stuff) scotch whiskey and play the bagpipes…:)? If he is learning to play “Amazing Grace”, hopefully it won’t be for the funeral of one of our beloved. Bones needs a place to stash his Saurian brandy away from sickbay. Kirk (just quietly) likes a beer or two.
Whatever the wait or how long it takes, it’s worth it. :)
@4 Thanks Bob for clarifying that — this provides me some relief that you guys may still make the schedule — COOL !!!!!
Well, he finished up the 2009 Star Trek months before release, so maybe now he’s planning to finish the 2012 Star Trek months after its scheduled release. That way it all averages out to be on schedule.
I’m not in the movie business, but I’m sure that’s how things work.
@6. No, 4 years between movies would SUCK
:-)
Bob
here’s an easy one to answer…..which is tougher for you from a writing standpoint……coming up with the first rough draft or the final version to be handed in for ultimate scrutiny?
@10 I would assume the first draft would be tougher. After all, how often is the final version of the script actually identical to the movie that audiences see?
Hey Bob Orci. A couple of days ago you reported you were 75% done. Where do you stand now. Don’t worry Bob. No more threghts of the Agoniser Booth.
I do hope that J.J Directs. I also don’t mind Lens flares. Trek2 also had Lens Flares.
I remember we all here complained about Trek 09 moving from dec to May. But in the end it was all worth it. But. There will be plenty of people on here ready and willing to complain. Just like a Ferengi.
Love the man’s work, but JJ Abrams still looks like a Weyoun clone to me!
So cool they are on Schedual
I think being patient here is the only thing we can do and keep tuning into Trekmovie for new news :)
Thank goodness they are on schedule so warp speed gentlemen no pressure:)
JJ is one of the more savvy guys working in Hollywood right now.
I gues, it will be winter 2012. If the 2012-prohphets are wrong, it will be a “treking star trek time”. great!
but summer 2012.even abrams is no superman, only a human being! ;)
Nov-Dec 2012. Less competition and more time to get it done. Trek right now is sandwhiched between Spidey and Batman, which doesn’t give it much time to have as long legs as the other flick had when it was released at the start of what turned out to be a very weak May.
Early Nov 2012 ala Potter-flicks. Capital idea, I say!
Erm, not quite sandwhiched between Spidey and Batman, but y’know what I mean, those two powerhouse franchise flicks are pretty close to Trek.
@20. Less competition??? There is actually more competition with the Hobbit Part 1 and Superman: Man of Steel coming out. Summer 2012 is actually a better situation, with the weak looking Spiderman reboot coming out, and Trek will have a 3-week release before Batman 3.
I fear Trek might be left as a sideline against The Hobbit Part 1 and the Superman Reboot.
@21. The Spdierman movie is not getting good buzz and they are going cheap on the budget for it. Plus, I don’t see allot of people getting excited about them already rebooting Spiderman. I see Trek owning the box office for 3 weeks until Batman 3 kicks off.
Let me see if I got this straight. The story was approved in fall of 2010. And according to Bob, scirpt and story are interchangeable. So if the script is completed this month; what was approved in 2010? Was it a treatment? And so what Damon and Bob did at the hotel, was to add McCoy’s funny one liners? :-) I wondered if the guys listened to the group of us that wanted more McCoy. I know that might interfere with the Spock-Uhura-Twilight demographic. I keeed.
Hey Bob Orci, ( @ 4) I forgot to ask this question. If you know a film you are writing is going to be released in 3D, does it affect the creation of the screenplay? For example, would you write scenes specifically for the 3D visual?
@25. BB, are you referring to “Ender’s Game?”
The big question is how do you out do the introductory scene that was done in the first film. Kirks entrance to the universe via the sacrificial death of his father was such powerful cinema.
@ 26 MJ
MJ, it’s a general question, though it’s more related to Star Trek. I’m assuming that Star Trek will be released in 3D. And I hope they expand the budget to allow it to be filmed in 3D. I’m guessing that no one can talk about Star Trek being released in 3D at this time. So if Bob has any ideas on how 3D might effect the writing process, I’d be curious to know.
Great news! I really hope JJ returns to direct.
28. Basement
I think that’s a fair question (and I’m no expert by any stretch), but I wonder to what degree a writer would write specific bits related to the visual aspects of the film. I might venture a guess that a script could say something like, “the villain begins flinging shuriken-like objects at Kirk’s head,” and then the director and the visual dept. would determine what that would look like in 3d. So, I’m thinking the writers would just write their story the way they have to write it. On the other hand — and just for the sake of the conversation — if we concluded that the script-writing was taking longer than it typically would, perhaps the writers did have to back-step a bit to take the 3d aspect into account.
On a personal note, I was hoping Trek would not go the way of 3d. It probably will, but I have found 3d to be a bit of a distraction. And if it’s not filmed in 3d, it’s even worse cos I’m too busy noticing things I don’t like about “fake” 3d. Just my 2c.
Bob Orci — This is all fine and well, but throw us a bone. Klingons? Chicks for Kirk? Any double red alerts?? Something, pleeeeease. I can’t wait 15 months….
Peeps, relax.
Abramorci’s references to story/script are a good sign, not worrisome at all.
It’s the scripts that DON’T pay close attention to story that well and truly suck in the end.
Good screenwriters don’t simply come up with a plot and then follow it blindly to the polished final draft; they tweak and trim and adjust as they go along.
I told Bob to use celtx! But noooo Final Draft all the way! Now look.
They could pump this movie out in 5 months if they had too. No problem.
=A=
lol, these threads. :) I love them.
*fast forward three days from now*
Headline: 78% Done With the Script, Bob Orci Says
Taking ……tooo…. LOOOONG!!!
We need a tv show in the meantime! (USS KELVIN- prequel.)
If Trek XII is anywhere near as good as the first, I will go see it a fistful of times at the theatre. Then, when TDKR is released, I’ll do the same with that. When I like a movie that is best seen on the big screen, I’ll go see it several times before it leaves the theatres. I’ve done that with every Trek and good Batman film. I even saw NEM a few times hoping my opinion would improve but it took longer. Now I appreciate a few of the bright spots in an over all disappointing film – the one that killed TNG. Damn you, Baird!!
It will be Christmas 2012…and it should be – with the exception of 2009’s Star Trek and Star Trek: Insurrection, Trek movies have always faired better at Christmas than in the summer. The only problem with that winter date would be competing against Peter Jackson’s The Hobbit.
As cool as a 12/12/12 release would be, I’m hoping the June date stands because this long wait is a killer.
@38. Trek 09, a summer movie, was the highest grossing Trek movie of all time.
@40 She did point that out – “with the exception of 2009’s Star Trek…”
I’ve been curious for the longest if it’s as hard as I think it is to write McCoy and Uhura into the action because of their “boring” specialties.
23-24: I would say that Spidey is such a big brand that regardless of if it’s been too soon since the last flick it’s still a giant juggernaut hand-over-fist franchise. Anyway, I always see a huge disconnect between Internet buzz and actual honest-to-God real people reactions. As for the “reboot” aspect, I just hope the filmmakers keep it quick, like a credits scene, but I have no idea how that’ll be handled. But I highly doubt it’ll be as much screentime as the original Spidey flick. Personally speaking, I think the assembled talent for this movie: Director Marc Webb, and fantastic leads like Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone, makes it a big one I’m looking forward to.
All that being said and regardless that the idea to make the flick was inspired by dollars and cents (which is fine by me, I’m a huge Spidey geek and they should keep making them for years ala Bond franchise), I think Spider-Man has more box office pull than Trek, esp. if you compare the overseas grosses of their respective movies.
Which leads back to the late 2012 idea. I’m practically certain that Supes and Hobbit are dec. 2012 releases. But films released in Nov. do perfectly fine, check out the last few Potter flicks that were Nov films and they were powerhoses. Put Trek out, like, the first week of Nov to kick off the winter-blockbuster season, and it’ll have free reign for basically a month (it may slug it out with Bond a bit, but that’s cool).
Damnit, rvp, I’m a doctor, not a kirk fu martial artist!
I said… wasn’t it? … LOL and +LOL!
:-) :-)
I’m relaxed … as a cup cake! … +LOL!
:-) :-)
Exactly, Daoud. His catchphrase is basically “I’m a doctor, not whatever professional could be really useful right now!”
At least they can show him running about trying to save people in a random emergency (even though he mostly just like to stand on the bridge, where he’s no use at all). Must be harder to write for Uhura. TRANSLATING THINGS FURIOUSLY!!
I think it is great that they are still working on the story! This way there is still time to include Shatner and Nimoy as Prime Kirk and Spock into the plot :)
#47
Keep dreaming.
@#14- Weyoun clone, LOL!
I got a really stupid yet fun idea for ya Bob, how about for the fun of it, you film yourselves continuing to write the script, and at the end of filming that, you edit the video where it speeds up through the whole process of writing the script with the Benny Hill theme playing. Might be something worthwhile to pass the time. Then again, it DOES sound like a stupid thing to do…. ah well.
I’ve said before and I’ll say it again: Release date December 2012 – you could put money on it.
ON 3D FILM- @ 30 P Technobabble
I’m not a big 3D fan. It doesn’t add a whole lot to a film and it’s too dark. (short Film.com article below on darkness factor) But let’s face it. The studios make more money by releasing it in 3D. The biggest problem is when they convert a 2D film to a 3D one. Because most of the time, special effects have not been set up to take advantage of the medium Exception: See “Piranha 3D” or please don’t. :-) . And the director and director of photography may not have taken into account the darkness factor. I’m guessing that’s why the last Harry Potter was not released in 3D after being filmed in 2D. A lot of the scenes were shot for night.
It’s okay for Paramount to release Star Trek -2012 in 3D. The more money it makes, the better it is for all of us. Maybe it might get CBS to do a TV series. One can dream. But I will argue this till my fingers fall off. NO CONVERSIONS FROM 2D TO 3D. FILM IT IN 3D IF RELEASED IN 3D. I still want my money back for the awful “The Last Airbender.” (distributed by Paramount) Or as Bob Orci’s favorite insult comic dog would say, “I want the Last Airbender DVD for me to poop on.”
Link: Why 3D movies are dark
http://www.film.com/features/story/why-3-d-cinema-so/44622527?_r=true
I think it’s time to reboot Star Trek again!
That’s right, JJ. Don’t rush to sign off on a script until it includes a transporter pad dry humping scene between characters who ought not have any attraction to each other whatsoever.
And I say, the more “transporter pad dry humping scene between characters who ought not have any attraction to each other whatsoever”, the better…:)
(I assume that was a reference to Uhura and Spock on the transporter). Who says “ought not to”? According to whom?)
@54. Hey Einstein, he is half-human and this is an alternate time-line.
@52. Have you seen the Panasonic 3D TV demo at Best Buy? It blows the movie theaters 3D away and is scary realistic looking and bright.
@42 “Which leads back to the late 2012 idea. I’m practically certain that Supes and Hobbit are dec. 2012 releases. But films released in Nov. do perfectly fine, check out the last few Potter flicks that were Nov films and they were powerhouses. Put Trek out, like, the first week of Nov to kick off the winter-blockbuster season, and it’ll have free reign for basically a month (it may slug it out with Bond a bit, but that’s cool).”
I agree that if Trek gets pushed back, then they should shoot for a November release a month ahead on Hobbit and Superman. Trek can coexist with Bond, no problem.
Star Trek doesn’t need 3 spatial dimensions 3D, it needs a 3D of scripting: deep characters in a deep story with a deep plot and pacing. Give us that kind of 3D, the kind that makes your brain wear glasses, not that shtick of too many other movies.
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Damnit, Jim, I’m a doctor, not a space karate expert. You and Spock do the damage, and I’ll do my best to repair you after.
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Captain, the Klingons are hailing us. I can’t translate what they’re saying. It’s in a polyguttural dialect rather than standard Klingon. However, his disruptors are so overcharged they’re bleeding sound into the comm channel. That I can translate.
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Of course, in this alt universe where everyone’s amped up because of the Nero 2233 Kelvin incident, this Uhura might be well versed in kirk fu and space karate.
OMG. A humping scene? You mean, “my captain” (CP) lied when he said that Trek 09 just had a “flavour, not the full meal”? It just goes to show that there is not nearly enough good old-fashioned rumpy-pumpy sex in films these days.
Bob Orci – please see that you correct this poor state of affairs. Make it so.
@51 – if that’s true than Paramount will have no major film going into the 4th of July weekend. I cannot imagine they are will to take a 2Q revenue loss like that.
@59. Yea, like there wasn’t a lot of kartate and fighting in the TOS episodes. :-) The fighting in the last movie was more like TOS Trek IMHO — thank goodness they have returned Trek to its glorious roots…”Kunta Kinte, I found you, I found you!”
@61. Agreed, and its even more important now that the Jack Ryan movie won’t even be out next year. Frankly, there is a lot of pressure now on JJ, Bob and company to “get with the program” on getting the movie out for next summer’s season.
@ 57 MJ, The New 3D TVs
I have seen a Panasonic 3D TV at Best Buy. I agree. Watched parts of Monsters vs. Aliens. It looked pretty cool. But that price tag. As they say in New York, fuh getta about it. With today’s cost of living, it’s tough going to the moives. But I will admit, you get a lot of popcorn and pop for ten bucks. Now if they could only let you bring in a bottle of whiskey or some alcoholic drink that is green.
And while there’s extra time to work on the script, JJ, see to it that the snazzy new maitre d’ station on the bridge becomes a central plot element.
hurry up! i want some good news!
MJ says, “thank goodness they have returned Trek to its glorious roots.” @ 62
Well, I hope so. As Leonard Nimoy likes to say, Star Trek works on multiple levels. At an old convention he said it works as an entertainment, was provocetive and uplifing. (TrekMovie link) I paraphrase that to be adventure, heart and intelligence.
I want less Star Wars and more Star Trek. As Roger Ebert said about the last film, Star Trek was about ideas, philosophical and scientific. Of course you can have action in Star Trek. Heck, Kirk got in a fist fight in almost every show. Yet the original series had some serious science fiction going on. “The City on the Edge of Forever”, “The Devil in the Dark”, “The Doomsday Machine” etc.
From this website, everyone associated with the new Star Trek has said they want to go deeper. I applaud that and look forward to the next movie. Summer 2012 is still a long time to wait. Sigh.
TrekMovie story on the 1973 Convention- Check out Nimoy’s words at the five minute mark. Oh, got to love Trek fan Issac Assimov.
http://trekmovie.com/2011/03/05/video-of-the-day-report-from-1973-star-trek-convention/
paramout continues its bad treatment of star trek fans, no time spent on production- just pump out another trek film & assume we will be there no matter how much a paint by numbers rush job it is- like 1994 all over again…
@59 – But how many minutes does that fill? Because space karate/katana wielding/exploding things/physics-fu fills a good 5 minutes.
Uhura’s and McCoy’s jobs just aren’t that interesting from an action movie stand-point. *shrugs*
Which is why, in order to give McCoy and Uhura some more screen time, they probably WILL have Uhura dry hump Spock somewhere, and McCoy berate Kirk about something inane while everybody else is kicking ass. Again. Like in XI, y’know.
@65 “And while there’s extra time to work on the script, JJ, see to it that the snazzy new maitre d’ station on the bridge becomes a central plot element.”
Hahaha, Spock and Uhura will dry hump against it. ;)
I doubt that any suggestions or requests will be granted from now… lol… will they attended any? … I think right now everything is already decided… all ingredients were added … it’s done … now they are just decorating the cake! … if anyone understands what I mean… or cares what I ‘m thinking!
Anyway … Mr. Bob Orci is becoming my hero… he is still kind and considerate… with our desperation for attention and information… WOW… LOL!
:-) :-)
@69 @70
What is the point of your posts?
@72 – there’s no point of posts @69 & @70, except administering their medication is overdue.
I also thought three years is to long between films, but I’m not freaking out. Some of the top guys in the industry are working on this film (A list writters and an A list director and producers ect)! What more could a Trekker ask for?
Relax, next year we’ll be enjoying what Im confident will be a ROCKING sequel!
make it so JJ.
I feel Star Trek 2012 …It aint gonna happen!
2013 maybe, 2014 definitely.
The problem is demand of the assorted crews both behind and in front of camera, they certainly are talented and deserve the attention that they deserve, but to expect a great JJ-Trek-2 inside of 12 months is unrealistic due to scheduling of actors and production..
please please tell me I’m wrong, I would love to be, but I don’t think that even Nick Meyer and Harve Bennett could pull this off outside of 15 months with todays cast and effects..
@73 it isn’t, actually, I get it IVed.
I don’t think there is a problem with the actors’ schedules. This is possibly one of the reasons why Paramount has decided not to attempt to film the Jack Ryan movie before Star Trek, so that one of the lead actors, Chris Pine, is freed up to concentrate on doing Star Trek. If they had gone ahead with the Jack Ryan movie, there would have been very little down time (if any) for Chris Pine. He is playing leading parts in both big action type movies. Besides, for some reason, they can’t get the Jack Ryan story right, which is the big holdup for that movie.
The actors have known since late last year to keep the summer free basically in order to make Star Trek. It was to commence filming from May/June but now it is from July/August(?). I think that you will find that Star Trek comes first in the actors’ contracts when it comes to scheduling priorities.
Karl Urban may have a problem now, especially if Dr McCoy is given a lot to do. I thought the Rugby World Cup held here in NZ was to be in April (seemed a crazy time to play rugby finals and seems I was right) but the finals games play out in October this year and I read that Karl plans to be there at Eden stadium in Auckland come finals kick-off. This is rugby I am talking about here…you must understand that. Sacrosanct around in these parts.
@76 You are wrong.
The only actor who might have presented a problem, scheduling-wise, was Pine, but Paramount has already settled that they’ll shoot XII before Jack Ryan. They surely also told the other actors the same thing they told Pegg: to clear their schedules around August.
There’s no way this movie won’t be released in 2012. June or December – doesn’t matter. It will be released in 2012.
@76 Btw, filming/production of special-effects filled movies usually takes around 6 months. If it’s really epic sh*t – LoTR/Matrix type of things – it might take longer, but the first Spider-Man was done in 6 months.
@ 80. rvp
one post your saying it cant be done and the next your saying that it can?
another question
Why was ST09 delayed from December 09 to May 09?
December 08 ^^^
@81 I’m saying the same thing in both posts. It CAN and WILL be done. They need around 6 months at the most.
And from Wiki: “In February 2008, Paramount announced they would move Star Trek from its December 25, 2008 release date to May 8, 2009, as the studio felt more people would see the film during summer than winter.”
do you think it will be a “rushed job”?
Anthony Pascale explained on another thread that some of the ILM work etc can be done at the same time as much of the filming takes place. Some pre-production work may well be taking place already, and the main sets like the Enterprise bridge have been built.
Regarding scheduling… Simon Pegg said he was told to leave his schedule open in August and September… other actors should have received the same information!
So do not panic… everything is okay! LOL
# 76 – you are wrong…. keep calm! … 2014? delirium! +LOL
Yes .. The release date of a film can be changed … for reasons of market … in search of a better time for the box office … and not because the movie was not ready!
………… and not necessarily because the movie was not ready!
do not panic!!!
:-) :-)
“Star Trek” being pushed back from Dec. 08 to May 09 and Paramount saying “oh, more people can see it!” was just spin, IMHO. Real reason? Writer’s strike and Paramount needed a tentpole summer 2009 movie. So they moved Trek. Same thing happened with Potter that year. I think there were even quotes from Abrams that they had basically wrapped everything on the film in time by Dec. 08 and it was in the can done and done for a few months after that.
As it turns out, moving Trek and Potter from Dec. 08 was a good idea because they probably woulda gotten creamed by Avatar, since it was making insane bank around that time.
What worries me is that becuase of the procrastination with the script, even if they do get the movie out on time, they likely now won’t have time to use the fancy 3D production/camera techniques. So we will end up with the worst option — post production conversion to 3D. You know damn well that this is going to be released in 3D whether we like it or not (sorry Gavin Newsome), so the best we can hope for it that the movie is actually shot in 3D versus the post-production crap treatment.
PS: Worst nightmare — they don’t change the Engine Room and we all get to see the Budweiser brewery in all of its post production 3D non-glory. Argh!!!
@88 “As it turns out, moving Trek and Potter from Dec. 08 was a good idea because they probably woulda gotten creamed by Avatar, since it was making insane bank around that time.”
Sorry, wrong year — Avatar came out in Dec 09.
Not sure where to post this but felt I had to, for some reason. I think that at 0.52 we see our new Captain Kirk modelling the latest Starfleet uniform. Whadya think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbsVTYLq9e4&feature=related
@91.
Keachick, I can’t believe you just tricked me into viewing this. LOL
I’m betting that if the Trek sequel gets pushed back, it gets pushed back a year. There’s no way in hell Paramount will ever release another Trek film during the fall/winter season. Most movies don’t make a ton of money during that time. “Avatar” is the exception.
I’d rather wait till ‘13 to see “Star Trek 2″ as a high quality film as opposed to seeing the sequel rushed just to meet a deadline. Plus, J.J Abrams might not be interested in directing and may decide just to move on, leaving the production dead in it’s tracks.
^ Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings do perfectly fine in Nov / Dec.
Twilight flicks, too.
I still say if Abrams directs it, it wouldn’t be in 3D simply because his style (handheld, fast, shaky, lens flares) is the 100% the antithesis of how 3D is done properly.
No 3D. Just sayin’.
@94. Great movies do well anytime. Ref: True Grit, The Kings Speech
15 months… lol
One perspective its plenty of time, in another perspective its not much time at all.
But either way 15 months will go by fast enough.
I have a feeling we will get the typical ‘oh the scrips is done’ ‘ the script is approved’ tidbits but some real juicy info in June or July.
I am not expecting the greatest ever script for a Star Trek movie in the next movie but I am hoping for a plot that is stronger than than the last one.
Either way I know that the next Star Trek movie will be a fun movie, remains to be seen if it will be up with TWOK, FC or TUC but will be good.
If I don’t go in with too many expectations then there is a greater chance I will love the film even more.
This is Trek more for the mainstream.
So trek fans are only going to get a new Trek story every 5 years?
thats slower than George Lucas ;P
As long as there’s enough time to design build a proper engineering set, with stunning cg extension…!
Wow. I can’t believe all the people that panic at the first mention of something maybe not being 100% done. Even when Bob Orci himself says it’s fine. There’s more than a year to go still, folks!
I don’t know anything about the movie business and would never claim to, but I don’t think Paramount would move the Trek movie to a Nov / Dec release after Trek 09 was such a summer success.
But again, I don’t know anything about the movie business except that they charge way too much for popcorn and sodas. ;-)
You are expecting too much captain neill the first film was about rebooting the franchise and I as I am a nu trek fan I thought they in my opinion did brilliantly :)
In thinking more about, I am glad that Abrams stated that they are more worried about story than a release date. If that’s the case I hope they wouldn’t mind pushing the release date back if need be. I’d even be willing to wait another year for a good Trek movie than have a crappy one come out sooner.
Peter Jackson started production for his Hobbit movie last week which comes out December 2012. Amazing Spiderman, which comes out within days of Star Trek, is either done or near done with principal photography.
I guess it’s possible, and I would like to be proven wrong, but I just do not see how they can start shooting in September and still deliver a great Trek movie by late June.
It is this late in the game there is still no script. JJ Abrams has not gotten to read it and decide if he is directing because they have not confirmed he is directing.
They still won’t say if its being shot on film or crap HD video and in 3D.
I think all this talk about the sequal proves – in a roundabout way – that Trek is better suited the small(er) screen. 3 years between adventures is just too much time passed, especially with a ‘new’ crew. We can pretend the next adventure only took place fairly recently after the first movie, but it’ll get to the point where the actors aging needs to be taken into account. Granted not too much of a problem at the moment ;)
The original series of films worked because they had 3 seasons of back story/character & actor bonding which had already taken place. It was a well oiled machine! This new series of films is starting from scratch, and the gap between stories is really going to play havoc with the 5-year mission (which hasn’t started yet, and it’s now already 2 years since the first movie came out!). How many films will be able to address a 5-year mission, if there’s a gap of 3 years between each one, plus you have to factor in actors aging and availability…
The original series had stories which the writers were excited to tell. I have to say the new sequal appears to be more along the lines of, we have to come up with a story because we need a sequal. Perhaps 3 years is too much time to come up with a decent story? Perhaps the ultra-tight timelines dictated by a TV series work to sci-fi’s advantage. It cuts out the waffle and means you have to cut to the chase with each story. You don’t get time to over-think things or get bogged down with 3 years of audience expectations on your shoulders! With films you get too caught up in trying to please EVERyone, then the spirit of something like Trek is watered down to get as many butts into cinema’s as possible.
No offence to Bob, but I’d prefer to see a less wham-bam-thank-you-ma’am pseudo Star Wars-esque Trek and bring it back to it’s real reason for existing – telling compelling stories which often reflect on morality tales about today’s world. More though provoking stuff and a few less fisticuffs and explosions…
#92 – keachick
LOL … Keachick Hi! …. did you see about this rumor? … Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock and a female friend ( not Uhura )… lol … they drank some cocktails in LA on last weekend… “appeared to be a business chat”… by the way, I have not seen any pictures to prove it! … Where are the paps when we need them? … a lot of irony here! … lol… I ‘ll always be beside the Captain Fine and against the paps… for me he can continue putting his finger in the nose if he wants to…. LOL…
And continuing… it would be nice if that “business chat” was about one of those funny videos that ZQ love to do … a video of them together would be a great encouragement to us… until Star Trek 2 premiere …
Do it guys, please!
Do it guys, PLEASE! ….. :-) :-)
It’s a bit troubling the amount of time that it’s taking to get this movie going. The story/script is STILL being worked on. Abrams has yet to commit to the directors chair. It’s been a really long time. I hope it’s worth it. I would be really happy if the look of the bridge/interiors/ change as much from the previous film as it did from TMP to TWOK.
Do it guys, PLEASE! ….
I’m talking JUST ABOUT A FUNNY VIDEO! …. LOL and +LOL
:-) :-)
@107 “I think all this talk about the sequel proves – in a roundabout way – that Trek is better suited the small(er) screen.”
Voyager? Enterprise?
Whoops, maybe not! :-)
i’m far more worried that abrams is returning to direct another trek film than the release date.
i don’t think he can do any worse than trek xi. hopefully it won’t involve time travel or the romulans. and please spare us the plot conveniences.
@105 IA, really.
I assume (maybe incorrectly) that both Amazing SM and The Hobbit are more demanding projects (production-wise) than Star Trek and that the August date set by Pegg is valid only for the actors playing smaller parts. That the likes of Pine and Quinto will start a little sooner.
These are the only reasons why I think it’s feasible they’ll get it all done in time for a 2012 release. But yes, it’s worrying that they are starting everything so late.
Forgive harshness of my last comment. I will be there on opening night to see it.
trek princess have you watched Enterprise yet?
@115. Dude, I invited doing the harsh comment and then regretting it, so no problem. :-)
“invented”
No I haven’t watched Enterprise yet :) anyway Captain Neill you are very harsh on your opinions on new trek
119
Whatever, you seem to think I am the enemy just because I don’t like the new movie as my favourite.
But remember this just because there were points in the new movie that I did not like does NOT mean I disliked the film.
I liked it.
But if someone was to ask me what I prefer and I will always say the prime universe.
There was points that you obviously in your wee trek heart can’t accept like you must have thought the JJ Abrams Star Trek spat over the beloved franchise
@120. Hmm, you keep saying you like the film but 99% of your posts on Trekmovie.com don’t show that. Providing post after post criticizing the film would not indicate to me that you like it all that much. And putting one or two sentence disclaimers in many of your posts (e.g. “but I like the film”) does come across to many of us as a tad disingenuous.
Jesus Christ, liking something doesn’t mean you should abstain from heavily criticizing it. It’s far from a perfect movie and he has a preference (Prime universe).
Get off his dick.
@123. Nice!
107.
It’s not better suited on the small screen no matter how many threads you post this in. Star Trek only survived on the small screen because UPN was the most desperate, most lowest rated network in history. If they can find another very desperate network to be on, then I wouldn’t mind tv but movies are the way to go for now.
My point is, if you don’t like the film, just admit it fully. Why pretend you like it when you have a repeated pattern of criticizing many many aspects of it in post after post over a long period of time. If I don’t like something, I’ll flat out say it.
I don’t like Voyager and Enterprise. See, that wasn’t so hard.
PS: I recommend you watch your foul mouth or Anthony will shut you down.
First off, captain_neill and trekprincess – take it somewhere else like a private room, PLEASE. Enough already.
Mainstream – what is mainstream? I am “mainstream” when it comes to some movies, music, television and not so when it comes to other offerings being presented within those genre.
Of course, you will say that you prefer the prime universe because you already know lots of stuff about it. It is safe and familiar. This alternate universe is still unknown, therefore not familiar nor necessarily as safe. Then again, it might be a lot safer and a more pleasant place to be in, although, somehow I doubt it (for some reason)…
Ok keachick but it’s hard to get comfortable in here because I am really in love with the new movie and I find it hard to accept when people criticize something guess I need to stop being so in love with new trek and take it as a film as I wasn’t a trek fan before I seen the new film and once I saw it I just fell in love with it ps sorry Captain Neill
122
I admit the JJ Abrams movie is not my fav Star Trek but I doapologise if I gave people the impression that I hate the new movie because of how I ran about not liking things being different.
I think its possible to like a movie but still not like some decisions the new creative team took. For example meing hating the destruction of Vulcan does not ruin the film for me. I still love it but I hate that decision. But I do admit it was a gutsy one.
The truth is I love all of Star Trek. I stayed with Enterprise when the fans gave up on it, and was annoyed that it got cancelled when t he show was hitting its stride.
The new movie series is geared more towards a mainstream summer movie crowd, that was what I meant when I feel the script won’t be as stong as some of the best Trek episodes and movie because in a big mainstream pocorn movie that kind of storytelling would lose the mainstream teens of today’s audience.
And I personally think TWOK, FC and FC are tough acts to beat.
And before some other person twists my works around, the only reason I rant is because I care about Star Trek. I hate to see Star Trek become something in name only and lose what Trek is all about.
The new movie is not a perfect movie but it is a fun movie.
@129. OK, fair enough. I apologize for jumping on you, but not to the creep who used the sexual reference in relation to defending you.
128
Also please don’t ake offence when I ask questions like has the new movie got you into watching the other Trek shows and films.
I just like to know that the new movie is opening up the Trek universe to the new fans. Do they want to see more after watching the new movie? I am not penalising you for preferring the new universe but I think its cool that the new movie is opening the other Trek s to a new audience.
And if the new fans only wnat to watch JJ ABrams Star Trek then fair enough, all I say is that you are missing out on some great Trek along with Abrams movie.
Captain Neill give over now you really starting to go on and on and I hate whiny people :) no offence
130
Apology accepted, I also apologise for ranting at times.
I will always prefer the new universe :) I don’t really mind if I’m missing our on all the other treks:)
134
Ok there are over 700 episodes of Trek you are missing out on but if you only like the Abrams movie then fair enough.
The saddest thing I have to get use to is a generation who will prefer Chris Pine over William Shatner. To me Shatner IS Kirk.
134
You not even interested in try any of the other Treks. I always thought Abrams movie was a great way to introduce the universe to a group of new fans. A door way for them to get into this wonderful creation from Gene Roddenberry.
Look I love Star Trek don’t take what I say to heart I just haven’t watched all 700 episodes yet I have all three seasons of TOS, 2 seasons of TNG on DVD all the 11 films on video and DVD so I do watch quite a lot of Star Trek and I do love the prime universe why are you thinking that I don’t William Shatner is awesome as Kirk as well and the rest of the original cast I love them too not just the new cast:)
#108 LOL Dee – did you have to tell everyone here about the finger in the nose bit? I mean, that was a picture that the paps caught him at, going to his own trailer in what is probably supposed to be a more private location. “Dearest” JJ chose to publish it and they were chewed out for it by you, me and a number of others.
No, I didn’t read about the rumour. So Zachary Quinto is back in LA? I just deleted what I typed about the other rumour going around about Zachary Quinto. I figured people could do their own “research” if they were that interested. It does not require a lot of research (IMDb). Ah, the rumour machine, eh…
MJ – Yes, but whadya think of the “new, improved uniform”? I think that the head apparel is not really necessary, but as for the rest, not too bad.
It means that while Scotty is trying to get his hands on those nacelles, I (we) can be wonder how I (we) can get our hands on “my captain’s” “uniform”…
Also, I’m sure I saw part of a remake of the TOS episode “Turnabout Intruder”. On second thoughts, perhaps I was mistaken…:) (The pic in question is a little bit past the 0.52 mark on the video).
That Chris Pine is one seriously handsome dude…
PS – on the “we” part, second thoughts, you can all keep your hands to yourselves…;)
137
That’s cool, just felt how much I seem to annoy you that you did like it as much.
I was just saying DS9, VOY and ENT are shows worht checking out as well.
Voyager is my least fav but still has some great episodes.
Curently rewatching season 3 of Enterprise, that was a great year.
139
I meant didn’t, sorry I misread you on that.
Apology accepted that’s perfectly perfectly awesome the prime universe if’s that’s what you prefer than fair enough I am not going to go on about it anymore :) LLAP
Captain neill and trekprincess – stop trying to justify yourselves.
Trekprincess – nobody is making you feel uncomfortable. We all have our own preferences. I have always been in *love with a character called James T Kirk and I *love the two actors who brought/bring that man to life for me. I know that there are other people who are not so enamoured by the Kirk character. Many prefer Spock/Leonard Nimoy. The point is – I don’t have to justify my feelings about the Kirk character or the actors who play him, and nor do they have to justify themselves when it comes to their preferences.
* “love” for want of a better word.
Captain neill – nobody has to, need or even should watch any other Star Trek other than this movie, Star Trek 09, if they don’t wish to. Nor should they have to justify themselves as to why they do not, have not done, as you think they ought.
That IS the BEAUTY of Star Trek, from its inception. There is something for EVERYBODY, if only people (trekkies and others) would actually realise, understand and ultimately ENJOY.
Please, to the pair of you – please grow up. I mean this with all sincerity and without malice.
(Actually I thought that popcorn was a staple snack to have during the viewing of any movie from the year dot [whenever the first movie hit the silver screen].)
Many teens (even 20 and 30 somethings) can often be a lot smarter than you give them credit for. My then 16 and 14 year old sons understood the concept of two universes, and that this Trek is in an alternate universe to the other one (which is not destroyed or written over) the first time they saw the movie, within a week of its release. There was no one to tell them what to think, not even their parents. None of us knew anything about the movie, except for the trailers shown on TV just before its release.
To StarFuryG4 – please read and note as above.
neill and princess – i suggest you guys stop replying to eachother or something – your repetitive back and forths are spamming up threads and it is always the same thing over and over and over etc. Maybe just move on
“Why can’t we all just get along”
- Rodney King
well my warning cleary didnt work since within minutes it prompted a dozen (now deleted) replies from Princess and Neill, most of which were replying to themselves. You have both been warned over and over about this kind of thing so time for a cool off period, both temporarily banned until next monday.
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I am no longer holding my breath for a summer 2012 release date. Christmas 2012 soonest possible, particularly if Abrams spreads himself so thin by directing, too.
# 138 – keachick
LOL… you know… I do not want to be the mother of CP… then I will not tell to him to behave well … I have a crush for bad guys behaved … a little bit …. +LOL
And I wish that the rumor of the site people.com was true… ZQ is a producer, now … it would be great if he and CP were planning to work together … in something!
and yes, ZQ is in LA again and I read that he is producing some interesting projects!
:-) :-)
…… or guys bad behaved …. or whatever ….. +LOL
:-) :-)
Maybe the script is done and pre production is under way. U know how secretive these guys are
The way I see is ST09 is just a two hour movie and you simply can’t compare that to multiple series spanning decades of development, that “all” might I add; had their own flavor in their own way.
It’s amazing how all of us have different preferences but all love Star Trek nonetheless.
I “personally” feel that specifically the TOS-style-Trek benefited greatly from the 2009 iteration. I have the blu rays and dvd’s of the old TOS series and movies, but I still look at the new movie and see a better prospect, despite the fact we only have but “one movie” thus far, it may very well surpass it’s origins. It seems the model is for another two movies at least, because I’m sure that whatever comes next will bring in enough for the next production — Very hard to see the sequel not living up to expectations.
Lucky for us, Bob Orci is here often, taking suggestions, or sometimes debating etc and that’s far more than most “big time” writers are willing. For one thing, I’m sure the critique of the engine room “brewery” have been noted countless times, lol.
@150 “For one thing, I’m sure the critique of the engine room “brewery” have been noted countless times, lol.”
BOB, PLEASE NOTE — YES, AGAIN!!! :-))
I wouldn’t be concerned about pushing the release date back if that means we get a more quality product, I’d hate to see a movie what could have been much better had it just had a little more time. However it’s great to see that The Powers That Be aren’t worried about anything, that’s always a good sign
150.
Noted;)
15 months, PLENTY of time ahead folks, don’t worry so much.
Like I said before, if we’re at 6 months ’till release & there’s no news, THEN and only THEN you can panic all you want.
Lotsa time to make the film, and seeing as everything doesn’t need to be built from scratch, they don’t need a whole year for pre-production.
NOT THIS TIME THEY DO NOT
OK Bob. Time’s up! 31 March 2011. Does the Commodore need to remind you what happens to writers who are tardy with Trek sequel scripts? He has an agoniser booth and I have given him instructions…:)
It is now 1 April 2011 here in NZ, April Fools Day. Where is that completed script, please? No silly April Fools Day jokes either, thank you. Just saying. No pressure…
Really, though, how is it going?
Yes …. Mr. Bob Orci is still kind and considerate … with our desperation for attention and information …. I already said this before …. LOL
:-) :-)
Yea Bob, where is the damn script?
“Don’t wait for the translation! Answer me now!”
:-)
@150. Thanks Bob!
I think the delay is evidence of their commitment to a superior film, high expectations, and a complex storyline worthy of our dedication. Right Bob?
153. boborci – March 31, 2011
150.
Noted;)
good to know!!
Why does the poor writer have to get all this about the engine room? It’s not like he wrote
INT. ENGINEERING
A huge room that looks like a brewery…
…boborci, has your head ever come close to exploding when reading our posts?
127–Classic. I keep thinking the same thing about those two. It’s like those sitcoms where you see the two people who are always fighting and you know eventually they are going to hook up. New Trek—Old Trek—New Trek—Old Trek—their hooked. Now they both have been separated and sent to the corner.
Anyway, for me, there was never any battle between Star Trek (2009) and what came before. And I agree with others that the whole Star Trek universe has something for everyone. Some like it all, some like parts. How many people are out there who only liked Deep Space Nine for instance? I’d always encourage people to sample some of the other shows and movies, especially newbie fans. Maybe you’ll like what you see, maybe not.
The only thing I ever ask is just don’t criticize me because I happened to like all the shows and movies. It’s all cool.
161–It seems Bob Orci takes a lot of heat for the engine room. He’s the writer, not the production designer. You have to talk to Chambliss if you want a new engine room. (Though I guess some people hope Orci maybe will take a message to Chambliss that maybe the engine room could use a facelift).
@163. Well Bob is the only major person working on the movies who we have access to (just like if I have any Omen questions, you are the guy I would talk to). Now if you wanted to provide us all JJ’s email address???
:-)
Remember those commercials for some hair-coloring product ended with the hot red-head saying, “Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful?”
The updated version has that formerly red-headed babe coming out of a movie theater saying, “Don’t hate me because I’m a Trek2009 fan.”
164–I could tell you but then I would have to eat your soul
Bwhabwhabha—
What seems to happen here… “some”… older fans love to intimidate new fans with “wisdom Trek”… LOL… My advice… not fall into the trap! … put your point of view… your preference… and do not be justified
all the time… is not necessary… no one owns the truth… do not be intimidated…
But do not become a BORING!
AH… and don’t need to accept my advice if do not want! LOL and +LOL
:-) :-)
#162 Someone suggested that they get a room the last time these two got into this spamming. It turned out that they live in the same country even. Clearly, they did not take the advice the first time and I reminded them of that advice. Perhaps they may take it this time.
Watch this space for the announcement of the tiny pitter-patter of a little princess-neill…:)!
Where, oh, where is that “wee” script now?
Where, oh, where indeed?
Don’t tell me you haven’t got the Starfleet cuddly rug. How can that be?
Look – any rug will do! Now then…
Trust me – the “house” is amazing and beautiful. I saw it all in a dream. OK, maybe that room over there does need slightly different shading, but the rest is fine – beautiful, elegant and functional. Now, you just have to go “live in it”…
I hope my previous post does not appear to be some sort of April Fools Day joke. Remember I am writing this on 2 April, 7.40am (NZ time).
@167. Well put Dee. The one other condition I would put on this is don”t be a rude horse’s patoot to Bob and everyone else by carrying on a ridiculous series of arguments and tirades as a form of your own entertainment. (e.g. Starfury).
# 171 – MJ
Yes… but many people stop expressing their opinions for fear of saying ridiculous arguments… and on the Internet is very difficult to be sure that the other is understanding what we’re talking about … and here are people from all over the world… so sometimes we’ll be misunderstood… it is a risk we have to run… I’m sure many people do not understand the nonsense that I write here… but I carry on… my limit is, not to offend anyone… but this does not prevent me from being ironic sometimes …lol … after all, it’s frustrating waiting for Star Trek 2, for so long … so once in a while someone will exaggerate their feelings, this is it!
And about Mr. Bob Orci… I think it’s great that he shows interest with the fans here… but he can not give us 100 %, right? … so I ‘m a bit ironic with him … I hope he understands that!
So my motto is do not be afraid to say ridiculous things … lol ….
and I never want to be offensive and rude to anybody, it adds nothing in my life!
I hope I have expressed myself clearly!… LOL
:-) :-)
168–I had suggested they get a room. Captain Neill did not seem to like that too much, but I remember making that suggestion on Valentine’s Day. He and the princess do seem to love to get into it together. I remember reading they were both from Great Britain or something too.
The captain is ok (he’s not on the level of Starfury from another board). I understand where he is coming from. He (and trekprincess) just seem to feel the need to express the same opinion over and over again (I admit I even have a tendency to do that now and again). I’m on the same page as him when it comes to prior Trek. I loved the spinoffs. Hell, I even like Nemesis. Where I differ is that I loved the new movie just as much. He says he liked the new movie, and I believe him. But the impression I get is that he was dissappointed with the reboot element of the story. In that regard, I share trekprincess’ opinion.
Anyway, it’s probably driving them bonkers that they can’t respond. We should torture them with comments that will intentionally drive them crazy:)
171–With you on Bob Orci. Nobody should be rude to him, Rick Sternbach, David Mack or anyone else from the Star Trek “Courts”past and present who take the time to read our posts and comment. Constructive criticism is ok to a point, but Starfury seemed to be taking it too the next level. I was almost getting embarrassed myself.
Intelligent sci-fi movies like “Source Code” and “Inception” should give the new Star Trek movie commercial cover for it to go deeper as the filmmakers have indicated they want to. “Inception” made a lot of money. i predict “Source Code” will do well also.
By the way, I saw Source Code yesterday. Just great. Intelligent and thrilling. And if you’ve seen Star Trek 2009, once Jeffrey Wrght throws out the term quantum mechanics, you’ll get some of what is going on. It also helps to remember TNG’s “Parallels.” Add in that, the interview of Dr. Daryl Bem by Stephen Colbert (check his website) about ESP with time traveling po-n: attributed to quantum mechanics. I’m not kidding about the time traveling po_n. (Can’t post the interview because of the word po_n in the URL.)
Oh, and by the way Scott Bakula does a voice cameo. Bakula was in Quantum Leap. Get it? Quantum leap…
@174
Hey, not so fast…
I had predicted the same for The Adjustment Bureau, but the film performed just “ok” and the reviews were mixed.
The Source Code has good, but not overwhelmingly enthusiastic reviews. And no offense to Jake Gyllenhaal, but he has not been a huge box office draw, of late.
I agree with your conclusion though, I do want depth…but depth doesn’t have to be boring and it doesn’t have to be obviously heavy either.
For example, no one could ever call Pixar’s films trite, but they still are still light-hearted and fun, they have a timelessness, a sense of adventure, and universal relate-ability without pandering, that I hope Trek captures in it’s next outing.
Are we even sure that captain_neill and trekprincess are NOT the same person? ;-)
Of course depth does not have to be boring. (@175) The great thing about “Source Code” is that I was thjinking within the first fifteen minutes. The same thing happened when I watched “The King’s Speech” which had no explosions, fist fights or naked bodies. Though naked bodies would have been nice. :-)
J.J. Abrams thought Star Trek was ” a little talky” (Entertainment Weekly, 5-8-09; pg.30) Yet some of the most revered Trek are the “talky” ones. “The City on the Edge of Forever.” TNG” The Inner Light”; DS9 “The Visitior.” It comes down what Roger Ebert said Trek was about in his review of the 09 film. Behind what he defined was Star Trek, Roddenberry’s vision, were ideas. Philosophical and scientific. Even some of the greatest action based episodes were about ideas. See “The Doomsday Machine”, a show about arms control.
Yeah, not all Pixar’ stuff is thought provoking science fiction. But the Pixar films, I’ve seen have a depth that adults can enjoy. “Ratatouille” addressed the ideas of creativity and tolerance. “Up” took on the ideas of change in a person’s lifetime. Other ideas were there too. Love. Loss. Life.
Yes, “Source Code” has gotten good reviews. (88% positive reviews; Rotten Tomatoes) But from a science fiction standpoint, it’s more remarkable if you are thinking parallel universes. It probably should have done a better job of exposition. And don’t ask me how one accesses a parallel universe. (Link, funny video Briane Greene inverview) Damn it, I’m a blogger not a physicist. Anyway, I strongly recommend “Source Code” for lovers of science fiction.
1) Rotten Tomatoes “Source Code”
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/source_code/
2) Funny interview of Brian Greene discussing parallel universes with Stephen Colbert with Mirror Mirror reference
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/372476/january-27-2011/brian-greene
@173/Damien: “171–With you on Bob Orci. Nobody should be rude to him, Rick Sternbach, David Mack or anyone else from the Star Trek “Courts”past and present who take the time to read our posts and comment. Constructive criticism is ok to a point, but Starfury seemed to be taking it too the next level. I was almost getting embarrassed myself.”
Well put!
trekprincess & captain_neill at it again. I dub thee nuisanceprincess and captain null (respectively)
As a new star trek fan trekprincess never understands captain neill’s (a trek veteran) views and personal tastes and captain neill gets into theological and personal opinion debates with someone (trekprincess) who has yet to watch every star trek TV series and movie, if I remember correctly from past arguments. How can you call yourself a trekprincess?
Don’t get me wrong, Im happy star trek has new fans and in my opinion the more women the better, but I am sick of the constant bickering between the two of you.
@179. In the tradition of “Bragilina”, I dub them…drum roll…
“Nellincess”
Also, for StarFury, I provide the new nickname..drum roll…
“SadFlamer”
:-)
somehow they have to throw in a green orion chick for good measure. i have watched the movie with chris pine many times and feel they did a great job and i was glad bill shatner wasn’t in it.
for the next one though i do think shatner should be in it somehow maybe in a scene where he meets himself (chris pine) as a youth and give info that will help himself along the way, that would make the most sense and allow shatner to be his actual age.
anyway i trust they will do a good job because i was afraid the remake was going to be horrible but was delightfully surprised.
177. I think source code was smart yet not talky. At it’s worst, Trek was pedantic, preachy and, I’m looking for another p-word… because I’m talky. TNG was talky. And Ebert had previously criticized the endless talking in later Star Trek movies. I think ideas and questions can be raised without speeches. I think the wait, is Nero from the future bridge scene gave a lot of exposition and raised some interesting ideas quickly and in few words. I thought it was well done. Now, I’d like to see more of that. If only I could master that in my posts here.
60. ha. can someone dare Bob to include the word(s) rumpy pumpy in his script.