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JJ Abrams: Still Working On Star Trek Sequel Script + Announcement Soon May 21, 2011

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Abrams,Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback

This weekend JJ Abrams is out promoting his new movie Super 8. The first little tidbit about the Star Trek sequel has emerged, with the producer (and possible director) confirming that the script is still not complete, but more news should come soon.   

 

Abrams: still working on Star Trek sequel script

Today JJ Abrams spoke briefly about the Star Trek sequel which he is producing (and possibly directing) giving this brief update on progress (via Fox News):

We are working hard on that [Star Trek sequel] script and – finger’s crossed – we are going to be able to make an announcement on that soon

Last time Abrams spoke about Star Trek, he said that he would be able to "focus" on the sequel after the release of Super 8, which hits theaters on June 10th. The Star Trek sequel is slated for a June 29th, 2012 release. Other summer 2012 films are already progressing. For example The Dark Knight Rises (due out 3 weeks after the Star Trek sequel) started shooting this week. And The Amazing Spider-man (due out July 3 2012) is already in post-production.

The latest reports have Paramount planning to go into production on the Star Trek sequel in September. While that is a shorter production and post-production schedule then the 2009Star Trek film, it will actually be longer than Abrams had for Super 8.

It is likely Abrams will make additional statements about Star Trek over the next few days as he promotes Super 8, so stay tuned for more updates.


JJ Abrams with his cast for "Star Trek" – says announcement on sequel is coming soon

Comments

1. Harry Ballz - May 21, 2011

It seems to be taking quite a while to bake this particular cake!

2. CmdrR - May 21, 2011

It really seems as though a film that’s bound to be as effects-heavy as ‘TrekII’ will need more time than you’ve slated. How can you film this fall and have it slammed out by next summer?

As always, please keep the focus on a good story involving the characters we love.

And if you use my idea of ending the film with (unexplained) Shatner in silhouette, looking out at the E and saying, “All I ask is a tall ship, and a star to steer her by…” … I’ll buy two tickets.

3. Sybok's Secret Brother - May 21, 2011

Can’t wait – looking forward to seeing what they come up with. A tidbit or a minor spoiler would be nice soon…

4. CmdrR - May 21, 2011

Harry, what do you never take a break? You’re always first.
You needs you a womenz.

5. Paul - May 21, 2011

As long as the cake is tasty who cares how long to bake!!!

I want something which matches ST11 at the very least much better will be great but I will take the equivalent & hope Paramount break their curse of giving each ST movie a smaller budget than the previous one regardless of how well it did!

ST12 needs a big budget otherwise it may suffer story wise…..

6. The Great Bird of the Galaxy - May 21, 2011

To Bob Orci: You can’t rush these things, Man. I know you guys are under a lot of pressure, but we, as the fans would rather have a ‘tight’ movie than a film that’s got holes due to it being rushed. You, as a fan can appreciate that.

7. Will_H - May 21, 2011

Well hopefully the fact that the script is taking forever means it’s good and they’re paying more attention to detail, unlike the last film. Still, its nice to get little bits of info. Half the fun of the last film happened before it was even out. Waiting for little details, little spoilers, and those first screen shots were fun for a lot of people.

8. Karen Brown - May 21, 2011

Well, to be fair, he doesn’t have to ‘reinvent the wheel’ with this one. Lots of what had to go into pre-production, etc, the look of various species, uniforms, lots of sets can still be used, or easily recreated rather than designed from scratch . So this should speed things along.

So excited, hope the script is good, and hope they do NOT do this in 3D.

9. T'Cal - May 21, 2011

How far in advance did we see the teaser trailer for STXI?? Two years, IIRC. This is insane!

10. Harry Ballz - May 21, 2011

4.

CmdrR, I obviously have WAY too much time on my hands!

11. andrew - May 21, 2011

Are there a lot of pre-existing sets ready to go?

If so, they can save time that way, and use the balance of the time to figure out how Shatner’s silhouette could possibly fit on the screen.

12. Anthony Pascale - May 21, 2011

The “Star Trek” teaser was released 11 months before the original planned release.

And yes they have the Enterprise sets ready to go

13. Capt. of the USS Anduril - May 21, 2011

#11 I would assume that the bridge, corridor, and transporter sets at least should still be ready to go.

14. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - May 21, 2011

A lot of the sets should be ready. I just hope they give us a real Engineering set. Can’t wait.

15. Steven - May 21, 2011

#14 – the engineering set in the last film was great! I know they selected the Budweiser plant out of budget restrictions in building a set and went with a location shoot but it was an awesome choice, imo.

16. Dee - lvs moon' surface - May 21, 2011

Stay tunned for more updates??? … OF COURSE! … I WILL BE! …

And Mr. Bob Orci must have a lot of news… must be why he did not come here lately… I guess! LOL

:-) :-)

17. JKim - May 21, 2011

I don’t know if there is a bigger fan of these guys (Abrams, Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof) than me. I truly admire their talents. I think what they’ve done for Trek is amazing. And yet I-AM-NERVOUS.

They have three billion projects in development!! Now, I have always been fond of the saying, “If you want to get something done, give it to a busy person.” But at some point the combined Abrams/Kurtzman/Orci slate became beyond ridiculous.

Still…STILL, I have a great deal of faith that they will make a great film. But I’ll feel a lot better when we at least hear there is a draft of the script that is up on its feet. I mean, Kurtzman is practically done filming WELCOME TO PEOPLE at this point isn’t he? Don’t tell me he’s been doing any actual writing on TREK in that time. No f*&%ing way.

Please, please, please don’t let us down!!!

18. Christopher Roberts - May 21, 2011

If you need a hand with the script….

I’m obviously gonna need to know what you’ve got so far! ;) :)

Dunno about delusions of grandure, I get delusions of adequacy. LOL

19. the Quickening - May 21, 2011

I do hope the coming updates include news of a pushed back release date. I just don’t think it’s wise to rush things, but I kinda doubt it knowing Paramount.

20. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - May 21, 2011

#15. I know they did what they had to do. But this time. Please get it right.
But. Maybe Scotty likes his Engines to give him not just Warp drive. But Beer as well.
Or. it could be called Beer Drive.
Hmm. Engines ahead Beer Factor 6 pack. Engage and open.

21. Steven - May 21, 2011

#21 – That would be Duff Beer Drive – “The beer that makes the days fly by.”

22. Dee - lvs moon' surface - May 21, 2011

# 17 – JKim

As far as I know Alex Kurtzman finished filming “Welcome to People” in mid- March or shortly before, at least it was when the IMDb reported that the film was already in post- production…

… and Mr. Bob Orci answered here, a question about the WTP’s release date after this… boborci never said if Alex Kurtzman, had joined him and Damon Lindelof to write the script for Trek 2, after completing the filming of WTP… I even asked that question to him a few times… unanswered!

Now JJAbrams is saying “We are working hard on that [Star Trek sequel] script”… “We” mean all of them … I supose ! … this is good, I guess! … I’m not panicking! … no joking this time! LOL

:-) :-)

23. AP - May 21, 2011

The big announcement:

The movie’s coming out in 2013.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding himself.

24. somethoughts - May 21, 2011

I can see the film delayed until christmas 2012 or may 2013.

Dont rush it.

25. Craiger - May 21, 2011

Are they doing a three Trek movies if so we wont get a new Trek TV series until after the trilogy is over?

26. Jeyl - May 21, 2011

@15: Yeah, if you want to go cheap on the most iconic science fiction starship of all time, by all means. Shoot it in a Budweiser brewery. Obviously the designers and set builders of every Star Trek ship set in existence were dumbfounded when they could have just shot their interior ship scenes at their local brewery.

I wonder if JJ would have treated the Millennium Falcon in the same way… like shooting the interiors inside of a McDonalds playground. Hehe. Spend a million dollars on the Falcon’s signature cockpit, and when someone walks out, we cut to them crawling in those yellow tubes. The engine compartment will be the ball pit…….You know, that would actually be kind of awesome since unlike breweries, kids can actually play in the McDonalds’ playgrounds.

Also, is JJ still using the “I’ll only direct if the script if good” clause? I hate that clause with a bloody vengeance. He’s a writer himself, isn’t he? If he’s interested in directing Star Trek but thinks the script isn’t up to par, why doesn’t he just chime in and make it work? Because on the slight chance that he won’t be directing, wouldn’t that just mean that he thinks the script sucks and isn’t worth working on?

27. Bill Peters - May 21, 2011

NO I bet the annoucment is that it is coming out in time for 2012 and also that JJ will Direct and and that that shooting is starting sooner then thought.

Funny people doubt a movie of this caliber can be shoot in this short of time yet The Dark Night Rises is only starting shooting now, and Super 8 had less time and looks good so it can be done.

28. Paul - May 21, 2011

Summer is the best time to release a Star Trek movie look at the history all summer movies did well so I think Summer 2013 is now more realistic the script is everything if they force rush it the quality will decline

29. Dee - lvs moon' surface - May 21, 2011

#23 – AP

Well… if you ‘re right… they need not do that (the big announcement)
soon … LOL

:-) :-)

30. Samuel - May 21, 2011

I’m with @27 (Bill Peters). I cannot imagine Paramount is going to abandon the notion of having a major summer film going into the July 4th holiday. That doesn’t make dollars and sense (sorry for pun but these movies are about making money). That will hit hard their quarterly revenue.

31. Green-Blooded-Bastard - May 21, 2011

I like this franchise! It’s exciting!

32. trekker 5 - May 21, 2011

Harry,hope that means it’ll be a damn good cake!! We have been waiting on this for so long,am I worried? Sure,but not alot. I put my hope in Mr.Orci and his team,I don’t think he’ll let us down.

33. trekker 5 - May 21, 2011

Oh,and Green-Blooded-Bastard,it keeps you on your toes if nothing else! :)

34. Jack - May 21, 2011

Re: predictions. I wish we knew what the hell we were talking about.

35. The Squire of Gothos - May 21, 2011

I’m guessing the film will not be coming until Christmas 2012 or Summer 2013. Seems like the schedule is much too short to make the earlier rumored June 2012 release date.

Bond 23 is starting this Fall and will have at least 12 months from start to theatrical release. Bond doesn’t have as many effects shots either..

Anyway, it will be good to hear the announced statement and news about the Trek sequel very soon.

I think it’s going to be late 2012 or Summer 2013. I hope I’m wrong and that a shorter time frame gives them plenty of time to not rush it out.

36. Daoud - May 21, 2011

The water processing level of Engineering is but one of many levels. Most of the Enterprise should essentially be Engineering anyway! We need to get over this brewery issue. The big E wasn’t quite finished we can suppose. The “Engineering Control Room” we saw in TOS, could well have been constructed over the following year still… plenty of ‘overhead space’ in that brewery. Heck, Scott could have designed Engineering Control that way…. After all in TOS, we saw something very similar with pipes in the background behind the grating….

37. LF - May 21, 2011

Seriously, people. It will take a good year and a half just to get at least a dozen lens flares in every scene (you know, so it looks totally realistic). That means Summer 2013 at the earliest.

38. p'trick - May 21, 2011

hmmmm. “working hard”. he says?

sounds like when i used to tell my parents that i was working hard on my school homework when i was secretly reading Sherlock Holmes stories instead! hahaha.

mr abrams and the writing-crew’s careers are quite well known to all of us. and from the abundance of activities they are all juggling at any given time, their suggestion they’re working hard seems a bit disingenuous i think.

39. James - May 21, 2011

Since when does everyone think even huge summer blockbusters take Apocalypse Now-esk production timelines? Time is not going to be the deciding factor on whether this is a superb film or not.

40. Khan was Framed! - May 21, 2011

There will be no delay!

The first movie would have been out for December of ’08 if the studio hadn’t intentionally delayed it for summer release.

Over half of the production elements are already manufactured thanks to the first movie, so this will be much faster.

Even the hideous Enterprise is already rendered & waiting to go in a hard drive somewhere.

This will leave Abrams plenty of time to build a passable engineering set, make phasers into proper beam weapons, not blasters & get all of the cops off of Earth, since there is no crime on our planet in this century.

41. Khan was Framed! - May 21, 2011

# 35 Squire of Gothos- “Bond 23 is starting this Fall and will have at least 12 months from start to theatrical release.”

That’s ’cause Bond movies are only ever released in November, not due to production.

The filming schedule was to accommodate Daniel Craig’s other projects.

42. JKim - May 21, 2011

#22-Dee
exactly.
I’m nervous that they were so behind on the Trek script that Kurtzman had to break off and film WTP and now he’s done filming and the script STILL isn’t done…

43. Bill Peters - May 21, 2011

agree with #40 Khan was framed, 09 would have been 08 but they decided it was a tent pole for summer 09 so the delayed.

44. dmduncan - May 21, 2011

You can’t rush quality, boys and girls. Just settle down and stop thinking about that hot cake smell coming from the oven.

45. njdss4 - May 21, 2011

I don’t see any way for them to hit their Summer 2012 release date at this point. I don’t mind if they delay, I’d just like to know sooner rather than later.

46. Charla - May 21, 2011

Can’t wait for the cake either Harry and dmduncan- :D

47. Red Dead Ryan - May 21, 2011

Unfortunately, its pretty clear that these writers are no where close to being done. I’m guessing that they are having trouble coming up with a story that isn’t a rehash of prior movies and/or episodes.

A month from now J.J Abrams will tweet that the script is still in development and that he hasn’t decided whether he will direct.

Five months from now, we’ll still be reading about the lack of progress.

Just as well, since I’d rather wait until ’13 or ’14 for an awesome movie as opposed to a sequel that is crappy because of Paramount’s desire to meet a deadline. Deadlines can and often are changed.

48. AP - May 21, 2011

It should also be noted that the movie was originally scheduled for Summer 2011. It has already been pushed back a year. It won’t take much to push it back another year. (And another…)

As I’ve said before, Star Trek deserves much better than writers who try to cram it into their schedules somewhere in between Transformers films.

49. Harry Ballz - May 21, 2011

Let’s hope that when the movie finally comes out, we’re not all collectively singing, “someone left the cake out in the rain….it took so long to bake it…”

50. Red Dead Ryan - May 21, 2011

I hope they don’t keep the cake in the oven until it burns.

(Smoke detector goes off, as one of the writers smell something burning in the oven) BEEP! BEEP! BEEP! BEEP!………..

“Oh sh*t, we forgot about the cake in the oven! F*ck, it turned into a brick! All that money and effort……….what a F*CKING waste! Unbelievable!”

(Bob Orci kicks oven, pounds fist on counter, slams shut the cabinet doors)

“Well, it looks like the Trekkies ain’t gettin’ no damn dessert tonight!”

51. Buzz Cagney - May 21, 2011

The writer guys are nearly done. Just the typos to be sorted.
Guys, Khan isn’t spelt Kahn.
Gorn isn’t spelt Gawn.

My role as Consultant is done. ;)

52. Red Dead Ryan - May 21, 2011

Aye. And if my grandmother had wheels, she’d be a wagon!

53. MJ - May 21, 2011

@15 “The engineering set in the last film was great! I know they selected the Budweiser plant out of budget restrictions in building a set and went with a location shoot but it was an awesome choice, imo.”

Here comes The King, here comes the big Number One!
Budweiser beer, the king is second to none.
Just say Budweiser, you’ve said it all.
Here comes The King Of Beers, so lift your glass, let’s hear the call.
Budweiser Beer’s the one that’s leading the rest,
And beechwood aging makes it beer at its best.
One taste’ll tell you so loud and clear.
There’s only one Budweiser beer, there’s only one Budweiser beer!
When you say Bud there’s nothing left you can say.
(When you say Bud!)
When you say Bud, The King is right on his way!
(When you say Bud!)
The King is coming, let’s hear the call,
When you say Bud you’ve said it all.
When you say Bud you’ve said it all!
Ya da da da da da da da da da da
(Here comes The King…!)

54. Iva - May 21, 2011

They are always “working hard” and being “excited” about the sequel. What else is new?

55. Harry Ballz - May 22, 2011

Here’s the thing…….when the writer for Yesterday’s Enterprise came up with the idea, do you really think it took an extended period of time to crank out the script? No, because when one has a brilliant, classic idea, the script pours out onto the page. It’s pure gold.

I’m worried that, in this case, with the latest Trek movie script, they’ve come up with just an average idea and they keep trying to massage it into greatness. In other words, improving on something that is flawed to begin with…

Sorry, that’s like trying to polish a turd into a diamond. Rub as hard as you want, but if the basic premise doesn’t have merit, you’re beating your brains out for nothing.

That’s why the initial discussion about what the story is all about, and whether it is truly superb, IS EVERYTHING, and not to be underestimated.

The longer this process takes, the more worried we all should be.

56. The 76th Distillation of Blue - May 22, 2011

those of you saying it was originally set for summer 2011, you are wrong.
Paramount has had the June 29 2012 date set in stone since before trek XI opened in 2009

57. Buzz Cagney - May 22, 2011

Whilst I understand the basics of what you are saying, Harry, I think its also possible to have a great story yet still think its well worth spending the time to get details right.
Trek ’09 could have done with a polish, and if it wasn’t for the fact the Writers strike put a stop to it, the movie could have been improved on.
I’m sure the boys have a good story- lets face it with these Trek characters to play with it would be very hard not to.
My hopes remain high.

58. Kirk, James T. - May 22, 2011

Its obvious that the supreme court has bitten off more than it can chew – you don’t see Christopher Nolan doing other projects…

And with all due respect to JJ Abrams and Super 8 (I’m sure it will be a great movie), Star Trek is a lot bigger and should really be the only thing in these guy’s diaries.

Fingers crossed they don’t balls it up.

59. Janice - May 22, 2011

Well, I’ll be staying tuned for further updates. Just hope it’s not going to be rushed.

I’ll be happy if PIKE is there. That’s all I want!! MORE Pike.

60. Hugh Hoyland - May 22, 2011

Honestly, I think these guys have just been busy as all get out. JJ with Super 8, Bob and Alex with Cowboys and Aliens. Damon L. with Lost, and the Alien sequel. So dont sweet it, it will get done and on time.

But just to light a fire I did write a spec script (unfinished), and I only need to finish the 3rd act. Hmmm maybe I should send it in? (Scared yet guys?… didnt think so. :])

61. GG - May 22, 2011

Will they have time to build the new Bridge and Engineering sets? LOL

62. Rico - May 22, 2011

They took on too many projects at once and set near impossible deadlines. I’m starting to doubt they can make it by next June. Christmas 2012 anyone?

63. Chadwick - May 22, 2011

Not surprised by the title of this article at all. Time for my rant.

The movie better have fracking Klingons with big battles. After watching Star Trek for 23 years, after 10 Star Trek movies all high brow, all about morals, all one on one submarine battles I am ready for a fun adventure where I can turn my brain off. The new Star Trek movie showed us a taste of what could be yet it was still showing us “Starfleet protocol,” by that I mean it strayed from traditional Star Trek…but not really. The 10 second Borg battle in First Contact was the biggest fracking tease in a Star Trek movie, just a little over 2 minutes and it sill had a lot of talk. Its such a bitter sweet scene for me, one of the few fist pumping “YES” moments and yet still annoys me that it was so short. Should have been 10 times as long, a nice 20 minute battle with 20 ships. Give me that in one movie, one fracking movie and ill shut up. I want to see heavy armored brutish Klingon ships go against more agile tactful Starfleet ships.

Rob, Alex, and Damon I am ready to be blown always.

64. "Check the Circuit!" - May 22, 2011

Every other summer 2012 blockbuster is well underway or nearly done…Spiderman, Batman, Avenger. Star Trek doesn’t even have finished script. Don’t see how they’re going to make their premier date. Christmas maybe.

65. OLLEY OLLEY OLLEY - May 22, 2011

June 29th, 2012…..good luck with that.

I wonder what the big announcement will be, Star Trek 2014 maybe

66. Chadwick - May 22, 2011

Since when is JJ working hard on the script? Is JJ a consultant on the script?

“For example The Dark Knight Rises (due out 3 weeks after the Star Trek sequel) started shooting this week. And The Amazing Spider-man (due out July 3 2012) is already in post-production.” This worries me, regardless of the fact that filming can usually be wrapped up in 3 months. That gives 6 months for post production and promotion.

The Future Begins teaser trailer Jan 18, 2008
First movie trailer Nov 15, 2008
Star Trek May 7, 2009

….By the aforementioned dates we had a teaser 16 months before the movie, and a trailer 6 months before the movie. So we could have had a teaser 3 months ago in February and theoretically a trailer by December 2011. Here’s hoping.

67. chrisfawkes.com - May 22, 2011

If Abrams were not going to direct Star Trek his time would be committed elsewhere by now.

I’m thinking there is more going on than we are led to believe.

68. chrisfawkes.com - May 22, 2011

@63

Good rant though, very well said.

69. Capt Crash - May 22, 2011

For a script that was originally supposed to be completed and turned in to Paramount back in Dec/Jan – this is taking way too long.
However, one can think or even consider that there may be a few reasons for the continuous writing up to this point:
1. they initially scrapped portions of the script or idea and started from square one

2. parts of the story were not fluid with the overall essence of the ST and partial-canon, therefore continuous re-writes (not making it public)…because re-writes means trouble or problems, which equals lack of confidence in the writers and the overall story – hence bad publicity and bad karma.

3. The writers, JJ, Paramount and others, decided awhile back (Dec?) that they wanted the script to begin a story arc……much like WOK to SFS to TVH. Paramount had already seen a huge previous success with an ongoing story arc back in the 80′s with ST:2-3-4…….perhaps pressure is put on to do the same this time around…..hence the story/script not finished.

My bet is on #3, a re-write to include a huge story arc after this sequel – therefore basically repeating star trek history here. ST. TMP was an isolated story, then ST: WOK, SFS and TVH were all continuous story arc’s!!!!!!!!

70. Bob - May 22, 2011

@63

Star Trek is not about space battles for the sake of space battles. If you have such battles then you better show the gore and blood and the suffering and the reasons why we fight and the personal cost. There are times when we must fight but we should never desensitize the reality. I think the TOS episode “A Taste of Armageddon” expressed that theme best.

71. Mike C - May 22, 2011

Im hoping Super8 is a big hit so that Abrams can tell Paramount to back off and let them take as much time as needed to do it right.

72. Bugs_Nixon - May 22, 2011

I’d be fine with them putting it out at Christmas – I’d feel better if they kept a wide berth from Batman.

Having said that, if the ball started rolling in September they could have many second units and a few effects houses and get it done fairly efficently. The planning and development of that first show isn’t necessary this time.

73. boborci - May 22, 2011

69. None of the above. Just been waiting for JJ to be free to really decide if he likes the story and hear his suggestions before we finish the script. Once he says go, we’ll have it in no time. Meanwhile, our outline is detailed enough (70+ pages!) to do some prep:)

74. saavik001 - May 22, 2011

Great to hear Bob Orci! I have faith you and the team will deliver a great film! Also, Fringe is awesome!

75. Aurore - May 22, 2011

69. “None of the above. Just been waiting for JJ to be free to really decide if he likes the story and hear his suggestions before we finish the script. Once he says go, we’ll have it in no time. Meanwhile, our outline is detailed enough (70+ pages!) to do some prep:)”

Good luck with that,Mr. Orci ; for now, that’s good enough for me.

However,will it be enough for Anthony Thompson? I don’ t know. Maybe.

:))

76. Ahmed Abdo - May 22, 2011

As long as they come out with a good Star Trek story, I really don’t mind if the movie came out later in 2012 or even early 2013

77. Terence - May 22, 2011

The best part of the script was the fact that they took it in another direction. Changing the history base lets the director and writer do all kinds of great things. I loved the movie from beginning to the end and if the next one is just as good i would be happy.

78. NANO - May 22, 2011

Cheers #26

79. Dee - lvs moon' surface - May 22, 2011

#73 – boborci

Hi, Mr.Bob Orci … good to see you here again… if it is true that you began to discuss the story in mid- 2010… I think your information very reasonable… so I’m really quiet and confident in the work of you… I do not know why people are so concerned about it … and I ‘m waiting for the announcement soon …

TREK 2 … OR whatever IS THE NAME … IS COMMING!!! LOL

:-) :-)

80. Red Dead Ryan - May 22, 2011

55.
….

Well, it did take the writers of “Yesterday’s Enterprise” several rewrites because of the complexity of the script. It’s well documented that the writers were sweating it out, not knowing how everything would come together. And they only had a couple of weeks to get it done.

81. NANO - May 22, 2011

Bob only 70 pages Bob :) Please push the envelope with the Klingon’s if any exist in this time! I would like experience cannibalistic / Zombie warriors. A subclass of Klingon’s would be sweet, I didn’t like Enterprise explanation of the ridge-less Klingon’s.

82. Mark Lynch - May 22, 2011

Already posted this elsewhere, but I think this is a relevant place for it…

Assuming from what we have already heard that filming is due to begin on the Star Trek sequel in August or September. Then assuming that filming lasts three months (which I think is a minimum) and lets be generous and assume filming begins on August the 1st.

Then that leaves a fraction under eight months (absolute maximum) for visual/sound effects, scoring, editing, test viewing, re-shoots, marketing, making prints and distribution.

I do not see any way that the Star Trek sequel will meet its June 29 2012 release date. This film will get pushed back to a Christmas 2012 release. For no other reason than time constraints. If it even gets made at all.

There just does not seem like there is any impetus to this project any more.

My opinion of course, YMMV.

83. dmduncan - May 22, 2011

Chill pills are a necessary part of every starfleet space ranger’s medikit. Use em if you got em, please.

84. dmduncan - May 22, 2011

73. boborci – May 22, 2011

Hey, next time you see JJ tell him a fan says Super 8 looks Super Gr8! Really enjoying the clips and really looking forward to that one. No baloney.

85. Thorny - May 22, 2011

While I think the next movie could still make June 2012, I am very worried at what the quality will be. More stock-footage lifted from the previous movie, a’la Star Trek II and Star Trek VI? Another movie rushed into filming before the script was really ready, a’la Generations (cross out “Spock”, write in “Scotty”)?

Star Trek is all about optimism, but it is getting increasingly difficult to see a truly great movie being born from extremely protracted development and inevitably rushed production schedule.

Either a mediocre movie, or a delay to Fall 2012 at the earliest (maybe all the way to May 2013.)

86. Barb - May 22, 2011

I’m adding a vote for a 2013 release date.

87. Mattyb.uk - May 22, 2011

Slightly off topic. Do u guys think V finished good

88. Gary Makin - May 22, 2011

40: Who said there’s no cops on 23rd century Earth? There’s security guys everywhere, so…

Mr Orci: Bring back short-haired Klingons (they look tougher), and make the warp core look like a particle collider if you want something grounded in reality.

89. Red Dead Ryan - May 22, 2011

I have to admit that I’m in no rush to see the sequel. I do anticipate it a lot, but I’d much rather they take another year or so to craft a GREAT script. The writers should take the time needed and not rush it through in order to appease the impatient fans. There are the ton of dvds, books and comics to keep me going in the meantime.

90. Harry Ballz - May 22, 2011

63. Chadwick ” I am ready to be blown always”

Funny, I feel exactly the same way!

91. the Quickening - May 22, 2011

#63
Space battles are ancient history in cinema as far as I’m concerned. The new TREK film will need a lot more inventive “wow” scenes than a 20 minute space battle. I thought the space jump and platform sequence in TREK ’09 was better than any extended space battle they could have come up with.

92. dmduncan - May 22, 2011

90. Harry Ballz – May 22, 2011

63. Chadwick ” I am ready to be blown always”

Funny, I feel exactly the same way!

***

LOL. Sounds like a deleted scene from Paul.

93. dmduncan - May 22, 2011

63: “Rob, Alex, and Damon I am ready to be blown always.”

Is propositioning not against the rules on this site? Rob, Alex, and Damon: The balls are in your court.

94. Lazarus Nine - May 22, 2011

Having recently started going through the Star Trek series in my downtime, I must say that it would be nice to have something a bit deeper in the next ST film than just another good vs. bad plot line. Character development in the previous film was decent, but it would be really great if that got flushed out a bit further. A focus on longer scenes, rather than heavily cropped, 10-second frames would be welcome. We can learn something from older film-making…choppy is not always conducive to audience engagement. A heavily edited film that leaves no time for prolonged dialogue really tugs at my imaginative capabilities and reminds me that I’m sitting in a theatre. Of course, this is all my two cents and no one else’s, so sorry for the rant.

95. the Quickening - May 22, 2011

#64
“Every other summer 2012 blockbuster is well underway or nearly done…Spiderman, Batman, Avenger. Star Trek doesn’t even have finished script. Don’t see how they’re going to make their premier date. Christmas maybe.”

Because the producers seem to be so calm about making the current release date, I sense the movie might be an extreme character-based film, and therefore will not require a lot of technical production-based scenes and sequences. The danger I see in that is a film that is a TV bottle-episode and a talk-fest.

96. Harry Ballz - May 22, 2011

92.

dmduncan, I knew YOU would appreciate that! :>)

97. Red Dead Ryan - May 22, 2011

63.
….

“I am ready to be blown always”

“Inner space, the final frontier. These are the voyeurs of the Starship Enter-the-prize, it’s five minute mission……to explore strange, new pleasures…..to seek out new love and titillations….and to BOLDLY BLOW WHERE NO MAN HAS BLOWN BEFORE!!”

98. trekker 5 - May 22, 2011

#75,Aurore,great to see you on here again! Its been a bit since you’ve sounded off about anything,glad your back! :) (oh,and hi!) Anyway,Mr.Orci,its also good to hear from you,no matter what you hear from anybody else,I back you 100% on whatever Trek12 will turn out to be! :)

99. Polly - May 22, 2011

an update promising an update. *sigh*

100. Bill Peters - May 22, 2011

I agree with number #67 I think there is more going on with Trek 2012 then we know about, they are probably all ready in Pre-prouduction somewhat and Bob absance here gives me a good feeling that this will be done on time.

101. Bill Peters - May 22, 2011

Opps didn’t see you here Bob, when I made post 100, nice to know 70 paige outline I like the work :)

102. Bill Peters - May 22, 2011

#97 Red Dead, I think a 70 Paige outline minus the scrip will work for Pre Production, and Post, the Outline hardly get major changes in the Scrip and this flim needs to me a bit more character Orented, it will come out on time, Bob has now Convinced me of that,

But Bob is there a way to get that Feeling for Taste of knowing what we are figiting for or Defending the Prime Directive or all of Starfleet or a Pre Warp Civllization and still get a Battle Sequance like we got during the War days of Deep space nine but scaled down a little?

103. SebiMeyer - May 22, 2011

Looks to me like he is seriously considering directing himself. Why else would he hold up the entire production until he is available?

104. Aurore - May 22, 2011

98.Hi,Olivia!

How are you?
I’m one of the “voyeurs of the Starship Enter-the-prize”. As a lurker at heart,
I,usually, like following discussions much more than I enjoy participating in them.

:)

105. trekker 5 - May 22, 2011

Aurore,:) I’m doing great! Thanks for asking! How about you? How have you been? I understand what you mean,there are some discussions that even I,(whom loves to talk) don’t wanta put my two cents in! Anyway,its not like your missin’ much,but this story did make me :),I have to say,gave me some hope! :)

106. Steve - May 22, 2011

Do you think the announcement is truly soon or ComicCon soon?

107. CmdrR - May 22, 2011

73 – LEAKS! We want LEAKS!

108. Jason - May 22, 2011

I think we COULD get an “announcement” via a trailer attached to Super 8. Imagine a teaser like the first one for ST09, with no real footage from the final film but announces “From director J.J. Abrams” and ends with “The Future Continues…. (whatever the release date really is)” .

109. Loren - May 22, 2011

Why is it taking so long, are we there yet, I have to go potty, i’m hungry. Does that about cover all the complaining. Hurry up and get started on our movie. We are about as patient as a two year old and you know that. Whining now, Are we there yet?

110. Basement Blogger - May 22, 2011

Thanks for the update Bob Orci. (@ 73) I’m still conerned.whether you’ll make it in time. The trailer may come out later than other blockbusters and we hope there will be enough time for publicity. Thankfully, you won’t have worry about the design of the Enterprise. :-) Batman is already filming and there was a photo leaked of Bane. (Link below.)

Bad Robot, make a great Star Trek.

http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/1377-first-dark-knight-rises-photo-shows-bane-isnt-messin-around

111. Dee - lvs moon' surface - May 22, 2011

#108 – Jason … YEAH! … I can imagine the director JJAbrams doing this on June 10!

:-) :-)

112. Aurore - May 22, 2011

105.Olivia.

I’m fine. Thank you.

I think Mr. Abrams will direct the sequel.
I already thought he would,back in 2009. Just like you ,the story did make me smile because , I believe , more than ever that, the “team” is on schedule.

Besides, we all know what the “announcement” will be about, DON’T WE???

:))

113. trekker 5 - May 22, 2011

#112,Aurore,I totally and fully agree with you!! Yes,I think I know what “the announcement” is. But,I can’t wait to read it! I,along with you,and so many others have waited so long to read that “announcement” that I don’t know how we’ll react when its finally come to past!

114. Harry Ballz - May 22, 2011

112+113.

Why don’t you two stop being so SMUG and wipe that grin off your MUG!

115. JKim - May 22, 2011

Mr. Orci,
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I know you don’t owe us anything but even just that little bit of information you volunteerede has put my mind at ease completely. My faith in you and your co-conspirators is enormous.
It’s gonna be a geat movie.

116. Bucky - May 22, 2011

Wasn’t the script for Star Trek II pounded out in a weekend when Nick Meyer cobbled together some disparate script elements into a single one? I wouldn’t worry about actually writing the thing, I would just wonder how long it would take to slap the flick together.

117. Hugh Hoyland - May 22, 2011

#73 BobOrci

Actually with that much of an outline done you could get a LOT of prep going.

118. Scooter - May 22, 2011

Bet it gets delayed until Dec 2012. Just in time for the next end of the world.

119. Opcode - May 22, 2011

It doesn’t look good. Something tells me this movie is going back to the modest budgets of the TOS/TNG days. No way can a mega blockbuster full of special effects be done in time for summer 2012, unless it is a much smaller production. That is the reason why Batman is already filming and Spiderman is already in post production.
People pointing the fact they already have designs from the previous film done (so that they could save time during pre-production) should read the making of The Empire Strikes Back. They had the Millenium Falcon miniature and sets from the first film, and look how much time (and money) it took to create that movie.
Blockbusters need a lot of time for pre-production (unless 80% of the film happens inside the bridge, just like the old movies), and post production (you cannot produce thousands of FX shots in 3~4 months, unless they don’t plan to include more than a few hundred).
I agree with someone that said that Paramount needs to find people that can commit more seriously to Star Trek in terms of invested time. I just don’t understand how can Paramounts agree with JJ giving this project just a few months of his attention in a 3 years’ time span.

120. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - May 22, 2011

You tell ‘em Bob!

Or you can just tell me.

121. Aurore - May 22, 2011

114. Mr.Ballz .

A thread is not a thread without a grumpy old guy to spoil it for everybody.

I say that lovingly. I know you made that comment of yours in that spirit , as well.

Yes, you did. You did. YOU DID!!!

:))

122. Jack - May 22, 2011

119. Anybody here know how much preproduction time they had last time? They did quite a bit of filming on location, no?

123. Harry Ballz - May 23, 2011

Aurore

you keep repeating the phrase “you did!” like Kirk said, “do it!” in the last film!

Is this code for telling me to “do it!”?

124. Greenberg - May 23, 2011

They don’t need much time for the effects. The effects shots are already done – they’ll just make the movie around them!

125. Aurore - May 23, 2011

….Huh….M’yeah! That’s exactly right! That’s what I meant! “Do it!” ,Yes.

( He didn’t notice that I had called him a “grumpy old guy”. Which means that,

there will be no temper tantrums.So far, so good…).

126. Harry Ballz - May 23, 2011

125.

#*%$&*@$#%&!!!!!!

There! Happy now?

127. Aurore - May 23, 2011

126.Mr.Ballz .

Sure.

I know you said it lovingly.

128. Harry Ballz - May 23, 2011

You got that $%*@# right!!

129. Pro-Khan-Sel - May 23, 2011

I still think it’s going to be about Khan. The marketing end of such a project staggers the imagination. especially with the 30th anniversary of Wrath Of Khan in 2012.

130. Trekboi - May 24, 2011

Get rid of that god awful ghostbusters 2 logo it makes star trek 12 look like a joke! And it makes me want to vomit more than watching transformers 2

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