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Michael Bay Talks About Leonard Nimoy & Star Trek Nods In Transformers: Dark Of The Moon June 30, 2011

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Yesterday we talked about Paramount’s big Star Trek movie for next 4th of July weekend (at least officially). For this 4th of July weekend Paramount’s big movie is Transformer: Dark of the Moon, and it turns out that it contains some Star Trek of its own. Today director Michael Bay is talking about the Trek references in TF3, including Leonard Nimoy’s voice work.  

 

Star Trek and Transformers: Dark of the Moon

The just released movie Transformers: Dark of the Moon includes a few Star Trek references (see end of article for spoilers). These include Star Trek’s Mr. Spock himself Leonard Nimoy who voices Sentinel Prime in the film. Director Michael Bay explains to MTV how he used a family gathering to ask if Nimoy would un-retire (again) for Transformers:

He’s actually related to me. He married Susan Bay [the director's cousin]," Bay said. "I was scared to ask him to voice. I saw him at Thanksgiving, and my mom was like, ‘Ask him! Ask him!’ I’m like, ‘No, Mom, no!’

As for the other Trek references (see below), Bay explains:

"That was my writer, Ehren Kruger," Bay said. "[He] is a ‘Star Trek’ geek, so that wasn’t my thing."

The previous two Transformers films were penned by Star Trek writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. They were the ones who brought in Kruger to help on the second film, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. Perhaps they bonded over Trek?


Sentinel Prime (voiced by Leonard Nimoy) in "Transformers: Dark of the Moon"

SPOILERS: Trek references in Transformers: Dark of the Moon

Here are some of the Star Trek references in Transformers: Dark of the Moon:

 

Comments

1. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - June 30, 2011

I seen transformers last night and I love the Nods to Star Trek. Nimoy as Centanal Prime when he said the Needs of the Many Outweigh the Needs of the Few was a very powerful line in Transformers. it was great to hear Nimoys Voice as Prime and i for one though this was the best of the Transformers Movies.

2. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - June 30, 2011

All in All I would give Transformers 3 a 4.5 out of 5. Also Rosie Huntington-Whiteley is a much better Actress then Megan Fox and of course she is simply HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! and she can act as well. This Movie had everything, Great Action and Drama and some suspence as well. I for one Truly hope that they will do one more. For the Trek References. They were simply great and a great nod to Star Trek and that is always a good thing.

3. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - June 30, 2011

Also. In the movie if you listen to Bumble Bee there are other Trek References and even some Voice clips from TOS and Trek 2.
Also. The 3D is simply Fantastic. Many times I simply forgot that I was Watching this in 3D and this is the first 3D Movie I have seen since Avatar that I can say that about.

4. Jack - June 30, 2011

“the one where Spock goes nuts” ?

I thought…

5. Richard Dawson's Ruffled Shirt - June 30, 2011

4

Thank you, Jack… I was wondering if I remembered it wrong. I, too, thought it was “goes nuts”.

6. Bucky - June 30, 2011

Was the clip from Amok Time or Naked Time? I think Amok. Spock was smashie-smashie the computer monitor. If I remember the 2 second clip correctly. Also ironic/foreshadowing considering Nimoy’s role in TF3.

7. Vultan - June 30, 2011

Sounds like a Shrek movie… and not in a good way.

8. Greg2600 - June 30, 2011

These TF movies are horrible. Enough said.

9. OLLEY OLLEY OLLEY - June 30, 2011

looking forward to this, baby sitter and restaurant booked before the 9pm screening.

10. Jonboc - June 30, 2011

The 3D was very good. I’ll leave it at that.

11. ety3 - June 30, 2011

Actually, Sentinel Prime said it the correct way: “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”

MTV got it wrong.

12. Gregg - June 30, 2011

The clip was from Amok Time. They are watching it on TV, very funny.

Nimoy’s work is tremendous. He’s a huge part of the film.

13. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - June 30, 2011

#11. You and i are both right. MTV got it wrong.
The Scene from TOS was from Amok Time. I know that sound like the back of my hand.

14. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - June 30, 2011

#8 Greg2600. Don’t make me put you in the Agoniser Booth. Lol/

15. VZX - June 30, 2011

I really didn’t like how Optimus was so violent and non-heroic in this last film. He killed without mercy. Not the hallmarks of a true hero. I had to explain these things to my son after the movie.

“Kill them all.” Really? I could never imagine Superman or Captain Kirk saying such a line. I was really bummed about Optimus Prime’s characterization. Not a good thing or role model for kids to watch.

16. Dee - lvs moon surface - June 30, 2011

Ok… now I’ll have to see the movie… I got to see all these references to Star Trek… smart writer… LOL

:-) :-)

17. Keachick (rose pinenut) - June 30, 2011

The words – “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few” were reversed in Star Trek: Search for Spock when Spock asks Kirk why they came back for him. Kirk said, “The needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many”.

Not sure I want to see this movie. It just looks too noisy, violent, over the top. I get tired of seeing so much destruction of cities where hundreds of thousands of people live, even though I know it is only fiction. I guess I’ll check it out when it comes onto DVD.

18. Punkspocker - June 30, 2011

How freaking cool for Michael B.

19. Erin - June 30, 2011

vzx without spoiling , that attitude was something that had to happen…..some characters will never be rehabilitated , and that is indicative of real life .

He never would have stopped …..either one of them . He was heroic, because his choice may not have been a popular one…..but it was the correct one .

20. trekker 5 - June 30, 2011

Well,it would take more than some Star Trek talk in this movie to make me go see it!!

21. Let Them Eat Plomeek Soup - June 30, 2011

@16:

I really don’t like the Transformers movies, but these writers know right where the Trekkies’ weakest points are…

Now I’ll just wait an agonizing nine months for it to come out on DVD, then I can watch the “nods” as many times as I like…

22. Ivory - June 30, 2011

The Transformer films are the perfect example of everything that is wrong with modern cinema.

23. Vultan - June 30, 2011

#21

AGREED!

24. Canon Schmanon - June 30, 2011

People are being very melodramatic about Transformers films. They certainly aren’t writer’s films, but considering the money they make, they’re obviously filling a niche. I saw the first one and hated it, and will never see another, but a lot of people didn’t feel like me. They just supposed to be escapist, and considering that they are based on TOYS I couldn’t ever be too hard on them. Not bad for a bunch of TOY movies, I suppose. Just not my kind of thing.

But I would never go so far as to say they’re everything that is wrong is modern cinema. First of all, what does that even mean? They certainly can’t be everything that is wrong with past cinema, so maybe we should say “everything that is wrong with current cinema” to be more specific? But even then it sounds kind of hyperbolic. Surely there are worse movies out there?

Of course, this is just my OPINION!

25. John from Cincinnati - June 30, 2011

Star Trek is everywhere

Thank God!

26. Irene - June 30, 2011

Everywhere IS Star Trek. :) :)

27. Vultan - June 30, 2011

#23

Okay, I’ll be more specific. The Transformers movies are loud, flashy, mindless, poorly written heaps of the lowest-common-denominator kind of “entertainment” that has infected Hollywood in the past ten years, promoting with all the subtlety of a chainsaw the high-minded ideals [sarcasm] of graphic violence, sexism, and ethnic stereotypes.

Yes, it is based on TOYS and meant to get every twelve-year-old sugar addict to beg his mommy for a detour down the action figure aisle at Wal-Mart, but so were Pixar’s TOY Story movies—and they’ve been quite well-regarded, now haven’t they?

If you’d like an even more detailed analysis, I recommend this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g__bQ-Y7D8Q

28. BeatleJWOL - June 30, 2011

Maybe if there were less HUMANS in a movie series called TRANSFORMERS (not HUMANS CONCERNED ABOUT ROBOTS IN DISGUISE, last I checked), the films would be better.

29. Bill Peters - June 30, 2011

I Belive that the Episode they talk about is one where the Terran Empire Spock is Encountered

30. Jonathan Archer - July 1, 2011

The prologue was awesome. After that it was terrible.

31. Chasco - July 1, 2011

#15 “Kill them all.” Really? I could never imagine … Captain Kirk saying such a line.

How about “Scotty! General Order 24 in 2 hours! 2 hours!” (A Taste of Armageddon). Pretty much amounted to ordering Scott to kill everyone on the planet.

32. Nemesis4909 - July 1, 2011

I really liked Transformers 3, I actually found the story compelling and I found that I cared about what was going on, motivations were also clear. It wasn’t just “giant robots beating the tin out of each other” it was “giant robots beating the tin out of each other for clearly defined reasons”, I liked that and I loved Nimoy’s voice work, he was very good but then again he always is. I can’t believe they got him to say “the needs of the many…” line, I imagine that took some doing.

What I find more interesting is Peter Cullen, he’s played different incarnations of the Optimus Prime character over the past 25 years or so, doesn’t he get tired of saying essentially the same stuff over and over again?

I mean, imagine this conversation:

Cullen “So let me get this straight, you want me to talk about how freedom is the right of all sentient beings, the war between the autobots and the decepticons and the battle for Cybertron?”

Producer “Yes Mr Cullen, we have a script for you.”

Cullen “That won’t be necessary, I know what I’m doing, just animate around me”.

Did this occur to anyone else?

Also the whole “kill them all…” thing in the new Transformers movie I felt made sense. As a leader Optimus Prime had been pushed to his limits. He had been betrayed by his former mentor who tried to have him and all of his Autobot friends killed and on top of that the world that had adopted him and is now his home was being threatened, grounds for him to be pushed to extreme measures I’d say, plus they were certainly needed, I couldn’t see any other way out of that.

Does anyone agree?

33. DJT - July 1, 2011

*spoilers*

I think it is crossing the line for our hero a bit. I think Kirk 2.0 did the same thing at the end of ST09 when he blasted Nero’s ship. Unnecessary. Gratuitous violence.

While, the adult in me can appreciate Prime blasting Sentinel and think wow that was ballsy and bad ass – at the same time, I wonder what kind of example is being set for this generation of kids are growing up with this incarnation of Optimus Prime. What happened to the “we are all a little wiser now” Optimus from G1?

As for Peter Cullen, I agree. He doesn’t need a script. Just animate around him.

34. Csaba - July 1, 2011

Example for this generation of kids? Well … sorry to say, but the example is kind of good. It’s the real life … If someone wants to kill you, what do you do? You kill him first. If five people want to kill you, what do you do? You kill them all, if you can.

Thinks like heroism, compassion, etc. unfortunately are not the driving power of our 21st century society. I know this may sound strange, but heroism in our way of living can get you nothing, and even can get you killed (just watch the evening news and you will surely see some hero killed while trying to catch a bank robber or by trying to save someone else – that’s pure stupidity, not heroism, and we must adapt to the modern society we built).

So, I think that Optimus killing all the bad guys is the example which will help future generations survive in our metropolitan jungle of life.

PS: By the way, Optimus let them live twice (in the first 2 movies) … it was the time to not make the same mistake the 3rd time.

35. Dom - July 1, 2011

War is hell. Sometimes you have to fight without mercy. Sounds like Optimus Prime was doing what he had to do!

People are so soft, sentimental and unpragmatic these days! Most of our historical heroes would be had up in The Hague nowadays, but that doesn’t stop them being heroes who defended us!

36. Lyle Kinney - July 1, 2011

Lame they made Nimoy pimp off his greatest line ever… Then Sentinel Prime turns to the camera and says, “I’d buy thaaat for a dollar.”

37. chrisfawkes.com - July 1, 2011

It was crap, again.

Does no one read the script before making films.

38. rogerachong - July 1, 2011

They only left out the “Live long and prosper” from the list of Spockisms. I guess it is never too early for Paramount to start raising the awareness of its next big franchise. Remember the next Transformers will be due around 4 years from now with a new cast and director etc. Paramount needs something to fill that financial gap for the shareholders. ST2009 performed abysmally in the foreign markets i.e. beaten on its opening weekend in Spain by the “Hanna Montana Movie”, and only making about half of the foreign boxoffice of the horrendous dud that is Jack Black’s “Gulliver Travels”. We should instead thank him for the assist.

39. Chris J - July 1, 2011

I saw the film this evening, and I’ll agree with the whole problem with the “kill them all” line. It really jarred with what was the ridiculously overstated “freedom” sentiment that slapped you in the face every time he spoke. Yes, good guy, fight for humans and rights and all that stuff, but damn, I got it the first time he said it. The fifth time, with the American flag waving behind them all… we don’t all live in America, and that sort of patriotic vehemence doesn’t sound right. It sounds very forced. And then saying “kill them all” went totally against that. I can see why killing them all was a very good idea, but, just, don’t… it was said so audiences went woo and yeah and clapped etc etc. Over the top, like the entire film.

Which isn’t a bad thing. But it isn’t the best thing either. Star Trek handles all of this stuff with much more aplomb. The Motion Picture, at it’s heart, was the same deal. Alien machine doesn’t see humans as important. And from a story point of view, the concept was handled much better. These guys just blew everything up so eventually there was no bad guy to teach the morals to. I am only 20, but I genuinely sat there and considered what these sorts of films would be teaching my kids if I took them to see it.

And I have to say that Star Trek would always win out.

40. samrock83 - July 1, 2011

Transformers: The Movie is still my favorite. Enjoyed it as a kid, and it still holds up now.

41. Adolescent Nightmare - July 1, 2011

It was okay. I can see why it opened weaker than the others. Only so much that you can do with this.

42. ShinRa Actual - July 1, 2011

The fourth reference is a bit off, from what I recall; He does say the actual “The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few” line, rather than the inverse.

In regard to violence, even the Transformers fandom’s had discussion with half-joking comments that Optimus Prime is the real villain of the film. It’s definately not the kid’s cartoon from the 80s, but I felt it was a decent movie. Far better than Revenge of the Fallen, but it helps having a script before you start shooting.

43. Dee - lvs moon' surface - July 1, 2011

#21. Let Them Eat Plomeek Soup …

Well, Transformers is not my favorite franchise, too… but fans are receiving the movie in 2011… and, Trekkies are still waiting for a little information about Trek2… it seems that so far we have only the references in Transformers… LOL

:-) :-)

44. Adam C - July 1, 2011

“The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many,” – face-palmed

45. NuFan - July 1, 2011

Seeing it tonight.

46. Basement Blogger - July 1, 2011

I thought the line one of the Autobots says was “This is the one where Spock goes mad.” Could be mistaken. Anyway there is a credit for music from the episode “Amok Time.”

T:DOTM was terrible. Wild swings between comedy and drama. Example. Ken Jeong basically reprises his role as Chow freon The Hangover but when he’s attacked by a Decepticon, it’s not so funny. And hungover is the way you will feel after this movie. Non-stop action. And I mean it. Pound you in your seats action until you’re sick with nausea. You would be hard pressed to find more than two straight minutes of dialogue. While the movie was filemd in 3D, the characters are 2D.

Shia Labeouf is annoying throughout the movie. Rosie Huntignton Whiteley is a mannequin. Wait to you see her introduction to this movie. On the big screen, I’ll just say it was cheeky. Frances McDormand (Fargo?!) is given some silly things to say. She will probably never leave the Coen Brothers again.

There is one good thing about this movie. The 3D effects. They are spectacular. That’s because most ot it was filmed in 3D. Effects pop and yeah there are things thrown at you. I like that. Use it or lose it. And since this stinker is going to make a billion bucks, I believe the next Star Trek movie should be filmed in 3D. No conversions. That’s purely financial not for artistic reasons. Trekkers, don’t fear 3D. A Star Trek movie with native 3D, i.e. filmed in 3D could look cool. Just expect the next Star Trek to come out in 2013.

I grade this turkey with a D. I predict it will repeat for the Razzie as Worst Picture. Critics got it wrong with Tron: Legacy, this time they got it right. See RottenTomatoes link.

T:DOTM mostly filmed in 3D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon#Production
Link
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_dark_of_the_moon/

47. Desstruxion - July 1, 2011

No plans to see this one.

48. Marc McKenzie - July 1, 2011

How about this ST connection: Peter David, who’s written several great ST novels, also wrote the novelization for TRANSFORMERS 3 film.

@24: Well said. I liked the first and third films, hated the second, but I agree with you–they are entertainment, not a Melville-type story.

You didn’t like the movies, but you’ve written one of the best defenses of them I’ve read. I gotta salute you for that.

49. Let Them Eat Plomeek Soup - July 1, 2011

@43:

Yes, people are receiving the movie in 2011. They also received Harry Potter 7 last year, and that was honestly one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. But they know that even though people don’t actually like these franchise films, they will still pay $10 to go see them in theaters just because. Maybe having hope there is a chance it’ll be better than the last one…but that’s never the case.

50. LJ - July 1, 2011

@34 I’d rather not adapt to that kind of ‘modern society’, call me old-fashioned, but we used to call such behaviour ‘cowardice’. Just sayin’. The modern world is crying out for decency, chivalry, honour and bravery: people can call that foolhardy if they wish, but I’d rather die that kind of fool than live a coward.

51. Basement Blogger - July 1, 2011

Csaba says, “Thinks like heroism, compassion, etc. unfortunately are not the driving power of our 21st century society.” @ 34

Thankfully, it exists in the 23rd century. See Kirk’s civilized response when given the choice to kill the Gorn captain in “Arena.”

52. Neumann - July 1, 2011

First: I think they should have swapped the Spock line to “the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many,” since there’s, what, 50 robots TOPS and almost 7 billion humans?

Second: outside of Trek references, you notice how many OTHER movies are referenced? Heck, they threw in a space jockey and a predator!

53. Basement Blogger - July 1, 2011

@ 24

The problem with movies like Transformers is that they could lead to all summer movies following its lead. Next thing you know is that the makers of Star Trek movies will be asked to inject Star Wars into Star Trek. Um, strike that. But what happens if Paramount tells Bad Robot, “Hey the first Star Trek (2009) movie was too cerebral.” What happens if Paramount says to Bad Robot, “look at Transformers, we need a Star Trek that can appeal to that audience?” If that happens, expect to see vampires, gigantic robots and Zoe Saldana’s bare butt. Okay, you won’t see vampires. But expect big explosions

Beware of filmmakers who say, “We wanted to make a movie for the modern movie audience.” That’s a euphenism for the audience that will be there for the studios at the multiplex on Friday and Saturday night. That audience is teenagers. .Links.

Look, I don’t mind a movie made with its only motive is to be escapist. I liked The A Team. But that movie wasn’t brain dead. Trasformers:Dark of the Moon was stupid. Here’s an example. Carly (Whiteley) gets mad at Sam (Labeouf) for not going with her to a party. Sam’s reason? He wants to work with the Autobots to save the world. Really? She gets mad because he wants to save the world? Maybe this plot point was to make a contrived argument but it’s dumb.

Star Wars started a trend for summer movies to be the big money earners for the studios. Let’s hope that Transformers doesn’t start another trend. Bigger and dumber.

LInks
Movies are directed at teenagers; article from Epstein, 2005; NPR interview 2010
http://www.slate.com/id/2130294/?nav=tap3
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130612646

54. Pensive's Wetness - July 1, 2011

@15, you realise O-Prime said that because of the fact that the decepticons leveled and systimatically killed thousands of people in the greater Chicago area? taking prisoners wasnt an option when you’re out numbered 100-to-1…

55. Pensive's Wetness - July 1, 2011

however i agree that it really wasnt a good kids movie. it was barely PG-13 in its violence content as is…

56. Basement Blogger - July 1, 2011

Wait a minute if the Decepticons killed thousands in Chicago (@ 54) , did they take out the Cubs? I would consider that a mercy killing. I keeed. I keeed.

57. sean - July 1, 2011

Every Bay movie is a love letter to the military. They serve no other purpose. Other than Transformers 2, which was designed to create migraines.

58. Basement Blogger - July 2, 2011

Sean, you say every “Bay movie is a love letter to the military.” @ 57. I’m not so sure. My favorite Bay movie is “The Rock.” In it, a group of renegade Marines threaten San Francisco with chemical weapons. There are heroic Navy SEALS and a heroic but human FBI Agent. (Nicholas Cage)

59. Rola - July 2, 2011

#34

Exactly. Optimus tried to show restraint in the first two movies. The Decepticons left him no choice but to get medieval on their butts this time around.

60. Ziro - July 2, 2011

Are any of you REAL transformers fans?
Why is using Leonard Nemoy a nod to Star Trek?
Nobody here seems to remember that Mr. Nemoy voiced Galvatron in the ORIGINAL Transformers movie!
The other nods certainly are obvious but Leonard is no stranger to the Transformers franchise.
It is fantastic to hear Leonard’s voice as his work is always superb.

61. CGB - July 3, 2011

Re-using Leonard Nimoy for a voice in a TF film was fine with me…but the overuse of Trek references got old fast. I paid to see a Transformers movie. If I wanna watch Trek, I’ll pop in a DVD.

62. mynameschris - July 3, 2011

Really good film, think the replacement of Fox’s character was a good thing and Nimoy played Sentinel really well. WIthout giving anything away I wonder how some Trek fans will react to some of the ‘nods’ to Spock considering the context.

This was a much better film than TF2 (which I didnt think was too bad) as there was a much better story and the demise of certain characters pulled a few heart strings.

If this ends up being the last Transformers film it caps them off as a nice trilogy.

63. Rocketman - July 3, 2011

SPOLIER: You guys are stressing out about a robot killing another robot in a movie, but how many of you cheered when an unarmed Osama Bin Laden was shot by US forces. Just saying.

64. captain_neill - July 4, 2011

I have been told Transformers 3 was crap, I chose not to go and see it because the second one was dreadful.

The only thing that aI am interested in the film is Nimoy voicing Sentinal Prime and the Trek references but other than that it seem the usual Bay fair with Bay insulting the intelligence of the cinema goer with super loud explosions and fast cuts.

It will be a dark day if Bay was directing a Trek movie or if Paramount insisted on Bay style for Trek.

65. mynameschris - July 4, 2011

What you were told is wrong…well wrongs maybe too harsh a description as both you and who told you may find that to be true, its down to personal interpretation, believe it or not some people think that Star Trek and anything with its name is.

66. freddy - July 4, 2011

#63 – It think osama got off easy and both of you can go to h*ll

67. Rocketman - July 4, 2011

Hi Freddy, I’m not condoning anyone’s actions. I’m just talking about the parallel with the real world. Sentinel’s actions would have killed thousands – why not blow him away?

68. somethoughts - July 5, 2011

I thought Transformers 3 was godly epic. Loved it.

Few surprises also.

Spoiler; loved the foreshadowing when they showed evil spock on tv smashing things.

Some of those shots were insane and although I am not a Bay fan, I must say this is his best work. Can’t wait to watch it again in 3D and to get the blu ray.

69. somethoughts - July 5, 2011

#32

I think the 80’s Optimus Prime would have shown mercy and not have killed them.

The hero rises above the villains tyranny and villainy, case in point, The Dark Knight. Batman could have killed Joker at the end but instead opted to leave him to the authorities.

Perhaps if Optimus Prime put the villains in cryogenic freeze, but look what happened to Megatron in part 1, he was revived, so perhaps this time Optimus Prime realized killing them was the only way.

I suppose the other method would have been Optimus Prime showing mercy only to have his hand forced to defend himself and thus alas, killing the villains in self defense.

70. mynameschris - July 6, 2011

Leaving them alive would just lead to them escaping and coming back with another plan…taking down a Decepticon isnt easy, not even for an Autobot, to leave them alive is too much of a risk.

71. somethoughts - July 6, 2011

Spoilers

#70

Seemed pretty easy in TF3, all you need is to sniper their eyes and melt their feet or grab onto one with a hook and plant a bomb into the head.

The only thing I didn’t like is the death of regular autobots like Ironhide and regular decepticons Starscream at the hands of a jobless horny kid. I didn’t buy that he would land a model of gold digging blond model girlfriend either, the slutty Megan Fox worked as she was from his High School.

Also Optimus Prime would never rip the head and spine off of another Decepticon like Megatron and then blasting Sentinel Prime in the head like some street thug gang member. Where is the heroism in that? The Villains are suppose to be captured or killed by accident like in all the Batman and Spiderman movies :)

TF3 could easily have been TF1 as TF1 and TF2 dealth with the cube and the pyramids which seems odd that the Decepticons would wait so long to hatch their TF3 plan, which removes the magic of movies and makes you conclude the story is contrived.

Best Transformers Movie by far and great for that Fri/Sat night popcorn date night.

72. Kapitan Ramos - July 7, 2011

Also you have to remember that the Transformers home-world Cybertron was destroyed by the war. The Autobots came to Earth and made it their home. The Decepticons and Sentinal Prime decided that they were going to enslave 6 billion people, and ravage the Earth of its natural resources. They had no way of taking prisoners because they had nowhere to contain them. In TF2 one Decepticon destroys half of Shanghai. In TF1 the battle near Hoover Dam destroys most of the city and a government facility. With nowhere on Earth to keep them, and no way of leaving the planet, the only way to stop the complete genocide of two species was to destroy the Decepticons.

73. RetroWarbird - July 11, 2011

Yeah, Optimus’ choice seemed rational if not begrudging to me as well. Plus there’s always the sense, since it is Transformers, that TF4 will roll around and Unicron will show up and resurrect the popular Decepticons (Megatron, Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream) and the deaths of all but the redshirt canon fodder Decepticons will be retroactive anyway.

The Ironhide bit had real emotional weight to it!

74. Capt. Trip - July 13, 2011

I saw the film last night. When I heard Nimoy say “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few,” I did a facepalm. The other main 3 references in the film were fine with me, but that just seemed like a sellout having him say that famous line.

75. Ever-alert Randy - July 18, 2011

Commodore Mike, I believe the character that Nimoy provided voice for was “Sentinel Prime”

76. ted - November 29, 2011

Nimoy used the line in star trek , the needs of the blah blah, as he saved the ship from the exploding Reliant in ST2. In TF 3 Nimoy says it as he’s trying to bring Cybertron in and destroy Earth human centres. I was incredulous he used the same line. What is he a logical robot? A logical decepticon robot?? dumb.
Everyone panic run around on espresso like before, no acting, replacing the girl for a worse girl, Megatron gets a spot as an upstart punk kid robot who gets his head cut off in 2 seconds of fighting Optimus at the end, see you in TF4

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