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Brannon Braga talks TNG, VOY, ENT, Star Trek Movies + more September 21, 2011

by Rosario T. Calabria , Filed under: ENT,Interview,TNG,Trek Franchise,VOY , trackback

From The Next Generation to Voyager to Enterprise — and Star Trek movies in between — Brannon Braga has had his hands in hundreds of hours of Star Trek. The writer/producer’s next project, however, is Fox’s prehistoric time travel series Terra Nova from producer Steven Spielberg. Braga took some time to reflect on his time with Star Trek in a new interview with StarTrek.com.

Here are some highlights from Part 1 of the two-part interview.

Braga revealed that his favorite episode from his time with Star Trek was "The Next Generation" series finale "All Good Things…":

"Top of the list, it was just a really great two-hour episode of TNG that fully explored the characters and the sentimentality of where they started, where they are and where they’re going. It had a great science-fiction premise. And it kind of achieved the impossible. I have no recollection of how Ron Moore and I did it, but it was a great ending to a great series. It didn’t disappoint."

Speaking about Voyager, Braga detailed his thoughts on the decision to add Jeri Ryan as the character Seven of Nine during the show’s fourth season. Braga says the reason for the change was because ‘Voyager’ "needed a kick in the ass". Braga says Captain Janeway was missing her Spock or Data and adding a character like Seven of Nine helped fill that void:

"The idea of putting a Borg on board gave us a chance to have a wild child there. That was the metaphor, a wild child, and Janeway would be her mother and try to tame her and help make her human again. That was a new take on that kind of character."

Braga continued: "To me, Seven of Nine added a nice touch of magic that the show needed at the time. The fact that she was a beautiful woman was just, to me, a benefit." He also dismissed criticism that the character was added purely for sex appeal:

"A lot of people thought it was in poor taste that we had a buxom babe, but I’m like, "Have you actually watched TOS?" That was babes on parade. Kirk would be considered a sex addict by today’s standards."

Moving on to Enterprise, Braga revealed that the original idea for the series actually more closely resembled the way J.J. Abrams’ Star Trek opened, but they ultimately went forward with the prequel idea:

"In some regards, I guess, it might have had a bit more of a feel like the way the J.J. Abrams movie opened, which I loved. His image of the starship was something I just loved and wished we’d done on Enterprise. But the prequel idea seemed like it would give us the ability to kind of go back before the days of Kirk and Picard and the other characters and do some slightly more contemporary storytelling, because the characters were a little more closely related to our day."

One aspect of Enterprise that some fans didn’t take kindly to was the decision to have humans in conflict with Vulcans. Braga, however, stands by that decision:

"I know there were some Star Trek fans who really hated the fact that humans and Vulcans didn’t get along, because that’s not the way it was depicted in TOS and the other shows. But relationships change over a century…So, the idea of us being in conflict with Vulcans and almost resenting their grandfather-ship and their lording of us ever since the ending of First Contact… I thought that was a really fresh, interesting idea that was, to me, fun to write and rather lively.

It may have been the least-watched series, but Braga continues to defend Enterprise against its critics and hopes fans go back and give it a second look — or a first — especially the third and fourth seasons:

"I’m not going to say every episode was great, but you could say that about any of the shows. I really loved Enterprise. I loved the characters and the cast."

In Part 2 of the interview, Braga defended his and Rick Berman’s time with the franchise. Although he takes full responsibility for any creative errors, Braga casts aside fan criticism that they were responsible for "killing the franchise":

"I will take full responsibility for any flawed or downright bad storytelling or creative decisions that hurt the franchise. I don’t think, looking back, that that’s the main reason it went away. So I don’t think Rick and I killed the franchise. That’s absurd. Did I stay on the franchise too long? Was the storytelling feeling feeble and familiar? I’m going to say no. I look at season three of Enterprise and say the whole Xindi species concept was really cool. That’s a science fiction concept I’d never seen before. You had insects and [aquatics] with intelligence and culture. I thought that was a fascinating idea and we turned it into a season-long arc that I thought was super-fresh. I thought Manny Coto came in and breathed fresh air into season four."

To read the complete interview with Brannon Braga, including more thoughts on Star Trek and the upcoming Fox series Terra Nova of, head on over to StarTrek.com. Part 1 of the interview can be found here with Part 2 here. Braga serves as showrunner for Terra Nova which debuts Monday, September 26 with a two-hour premiere on Fox.


Comments

1. The Great Bird of the Galaxy - September 21, 2011

I love the work those guys did….no regrets

First

2. Harry Ballz - September 21, 2011

“I have no recollection of how Ron Moore and I did it”

Why does this not surprise me as the same moronic team went to Hawaii and smoked grass while writing ST: Generations, and we all know how well THAT turned out!

What a total turd!

3. Pointing out the Obvious - September 21, 2011

All hail the man who killed TV Trek!

4. Q-Pid - September 21, 2011

“Braga detailed his thoughts on the decision to add Jeri Ryan as the character Seven of Nine during the show’s fourth season. Braga says the reason for the change was because ‘Voyager’ “needed a kick in the ass”

It did need a kick in the ass!! As much as my eyes enjoyed 7of9, this was pretty much Voyager’s Jump the Shark moment: a desperate attempt to sex up a stale series. It also DIDN’t need the return of the Borg or Q, beloved characters destroyed by redundancy!! Why couldn’t you have followed Ron Moore’s vision of Voyager where a lost crew were forced to make desperate choices in desperate situations! Just imagine if Voyager could have been a sci-fi version of “Lost”.

5. Greenberg - September 21, 2011

Enterprise was a true dud, but really you can’t assign blame to one person for that. It just didn’t work out. Case in point – the idea of Vulcans being our space-nannies actually kind of makes sense, but the idea of them being emotional all of the time? That’s indefensible, and silly, and does not reconcile with any of the previous Star Trek. Which makes Enterprise a turdburger that just happens to have ‘Star Trek’ written on it.

6. Will - September 21, 2011

Enterprise 3 was quite good, and 4 was great, and Vulcans have stronger emotions than humans, which is why they control them… but everyone knows this.

7. Will - September 21, 2011

“the idea of them being emotional all of the time? That’s indefensible, and silly,”

and, not in the show either.

8. njdss4 - September 21, 2011

It was all downhill after DS9, imo. Voyager had awful writing so often that it made it hard to remember the good episodes that were in there every now and then. Enterprise was a steaming pile for two years before getting turned around, but by then it was too late. Braga oversaw Voyager and Enterprise, so the blame falls on him. Just imagine how Enterprise would have turned out if Manny Coto had control of it from Day 1!

IMO I think Voyager would have been a better series if it had been more like the Equinox ship from the episode of the same name. A true battle for survival. More like what Stargate Universe was, except in the Trek universe.

9. Greenberg - September 21, 2011

7,
obviously you didn’t see it then. In the first episode alone, they are cranky, smug, and at times downright panicky.
You silly apologist.

10. NuKirk - September 21, 2011

insects and aquatics with culture being a new concept? Had these people SEEN classic Doctor Who?

11. Andrew - September 21, 2011

While most would agree ST:Generations was a mess, I personally thought Voyager’s later seasons weren’t that bad, especially compared to its uneven early seasons. To me, Enterprise was where it went wrong for Brannon Braga and Rick Berman.

The temporal cold war arc was so ill-concieved that it was a bad way to start out the series and attract and keep viewers. The Suliban were a weak antagonist who we’d never heard of before on any series. The bad guys should have been the Romulans from the start with the series leading up to an into the Romulan War that starts the Federation.

As good as the Xindi arc was, I didn’t need it. Plus, just like lots of other situations on the show, how have we never heard of them or their attack and threat against Earth before? The show just rewrote Star Trek history to suit it’s needs, never caring to fill-in and depicit the history most fans cared about and wanted to see.

The fourth season was perfect, but by that time it was too little, too late. If only the show had started differently and been able to keep its audience that tuned in for the first show which premiered right after 9/11. America was looking for optimism and hope at the time and Star Trek could have given it to them, if only it’s creators had been better at their craft. Instead another prequel of sorts that tapped into that yearning for comfort-programming at the time succeed and lasted a lot longer than Enterprise, Smallville.

Maybe it’s good Enterprise only went four seasons so that JJ Abrams could relaunch Star Trek for a new generation. Still, it’s hard not wonder what could have been for Star Trek had Enterprise been better. It could have reinvigorated the franchise by taking what was best from the original series and setting the stories on an earlier Enterprise with tales and situations the reflected the post-9/11 times with the coming war with the Romulans mirroring what was happening to America, along with the hope that as bad as things got, there would always be the certainty that the Federation would be formed at the end of it all. If only.

12. Will - September 22, 2011

“they are cranky, smug, and at times downright panicky.”

And every time any actor plays a Vulcan they get the same criticism. From Tuvok’s frown to T’Pol’s concerned appearance, the fanboys all say “I can see emotion on their faces! OMG!”. You just cannot please every faction that makes those kind of claims because they would have acted in a different manner if they’d been cast. Maybe they’d have Botoxed their entire faces into paralysis so as not to betray any trace of emotion. But realistically, emotion is what drives storytelling, and even non-emotional characters (or rather, characters who are supposed to keep their emotions in check) have to have some or else they do not work as characters.

On TOS, Spock was usually amused by Bones insults — but OMG, he shouldn’t be! It just goes on and on. Any Vulcan can be criticised for not being emotionless.

13. Will - September 22, 2011

“You silly apologist.”

And fu2.

14. Christine - September 22, 2011

Clearly I’m the only one who liked the Xindi arc. No, I didn’t like it – I loved it. I thought they were some of the most interesting aliens as a collective culture since DS9′s Dominion. I really thought they were great. I liked that there was a universal plot throughout the season, kind of like what DS9 would do at times.

However I must agree that the Suliban were.. well, they were lame. There’s not much more I can say about it. I was glad when they vanished at the beginning of season 4. That season premiere was cool but they should’ve left those guys out of it.

I thought season 4 was great all around. I actually appreciated seeing a little more emotion in the Vulcans. Besides, it was an incredibly tumultuous time in their culture, and when a Vulcan cracks under pressure… well, we can all imagine. I didn’t see much of anything wrong in that portrayal. And if we’re talking about V’Las.. he was off his rocker to begin with. Loved all the others though. Soval remains one of my favourite characters in all of Star Trek – him and Shran (JEFF COMBS).

I really, truly, honestly think that if Enterprise had been allowed another season it would’ve continued to improve. There were all kinds of great episodes… The Vulcan arc (The Forge, Awakening, Kir’shara), Demons/Terra Prime, IAMD (both parts)… Loved it. Absolutely loved it.

15. locutus - September 22, 2011

10.
or read Ender’s Game? Starhsip Troopers?

16. Gold Coast Rob - September 22, 2011

Didn’t Braga end up shagging 7 of 9 IRL ? Lucky bloke.

17. Alec - September 22, 2011

The shows became gradually more and more repetitive after TNG, which had many familiar elements from TOS itself. DS9 had a unique vision, a darker, grittier vision; but characters such as Dax and what they tried to turn the Doctor into were TNG architypes. VGR and ENT were generic and tired. Some episodes were ok; but even the best ones, such as the VGR final, were just copies of the TNG episodes.

I’m glad JJ came along. We needed something fresh. Hopefully, Trek makes a return to TV, in some form, in the future.

18. Porthos - September 22, 2011

“A Star Trek series, in my opinion, is only as good as its captain, and Captain Janeway was a great captain, but she didn’t have her Spock or Data, really.”

Dear Mr Ryan! It isn’t true. The Janeway – Chakotay – Tuvok triumvirate in the Delta Quadrant could be so many times better than the Archer – T’pol – Trip trio. The probleme with Seven character is not the role or the actress, but the fact that Chakotay and Tuvok and the all crew became assistant when she arrived

19. Khan 2.0 - September 22, 2011

[quote]“I think that Kirk and Picard should have been locked in battle on spaceships, on their respective bridges, and not cooking eggs.”[/quote]

indeed…in hindsight, its a shame they didn’t save ‘Yesterdays Enterprise’ for TNGs first film and had the NCC 1701-A coming through the rift instead of the Ent C – allowing for both crews and ships to be on screen(the Ent A coming through the rift into the 24th Century on its way back to space dock after the events of Trek VI – and finding the Federation at war with the very race they had just established peace with in the previous film – therefore both crews have to work together to restore the timeline.)

they could have read the script for Yesterdays Ent in 89/90 and though ‘whoa this would make a great cross over film when we get around to doing it with the original cast – we better keep it on hold for that.’

Alternatively they could have just done what TMP did and used elements of the episode for the film – not doing it verbatim but similar (e.g. TMP – with Doomsday Machine/The Changeling…TVH – Tomorrow is Yesterday/Assignment Earth…TFF – The Way to Eden). they could’ve had the Ent D come back to Kirks time (post VI) – e.g. in trying to save earth from a borg attack the Ent D gets blown back to the 23rd century – ‘Tomorrows’ Enterprise?’

they could have released it in 94 or 1996 – thus allowing abit of time in order to come up with a decent script, build some anticipation for TNG on the big screen and also have given the TNG actors and writers etc a bit of a rest after 7 years to recharge..not thrown them into doing the movie immediately after the last ep. Plus 96 was Treks 30th anniversary – the perfect time for a crossover film. Also they could have got Meyer or Nimoy to direct the film (both had directed time travel movies) – apparently Nimoy was offered directing and appearing in the existing Generations but turned it down due to the script and lack of time.

It could have been an epic 2 hour crossover event movie – Star Trek VII/TNG The Motion Picture

20. Dom - September 22, 2011

I’d have favoured a Godfather Part II-style film intercutting the two generations dealing with the same macguffin in their eras. Plus, potentially, Spock, McCoy and Scotty could have appeared in both eras.

21. Khan 2.0 - September 22, 2011

@20 yes that couldve worked – abit like ‘Federation’

22. Sean - September 22, 2011

For me, the moment Enterprise killed it for me was when they were told of the attack on Earth….3 million…5 million….7 million – lines that should have been delivered with raw emotion and received by raw emotion by the crew (much like what we see on the new Battlestar Galactica i.e. suicides…fights…etc) – delivered instead with a cold and lame expression and stoic gazes….the only character on the show that showed any kind of emotion was Trip Tucker (the only believable character their) and T’Pol…the emotionally ‘controlled’ one who spent most of season 3 and 4 crying.

23. The Inner Light - September 22, 2011

Enterprise would have worked if they had Manny Coto from day one. He should have been transfered the entire franchise.

Brannon and Braga did a good job. But after a time, anyone can get a little stale. The mistake was not recognizing they needed new blood sooner than they did… nothing to do with their intentions or talent.

If they had recognized it, brought in someone like Coto early on and handed him the keys for day to day production, Star Trek might still be on the air.

It needed new and fresh ideas.

24. VZX - September 22, 2011

The moment Enterprise killed it for me was when it looked too much like TNG. I always thought the tech would be in its infancy. There should have not been transporter use until season three or four, and then only rarely. Also, they ran into too many aliens. Space should have been more sparse in that time period, with more drama taking place on the ship.

But oh well. I stopped watching Enterprise mid-way through the first season, and then watched the finale, so what do I know.

BUT: Braga did write some awesome Trek: All Good Things, Cause and Effect, First Contact, etc.

And, yeah, he liked big boobies, so that’s why Jeri Ryan was on the show. Voyager got real stupid. I agree with what Ron Moore said about it back then, that there was no showing of damage or whatever to the ship out in the middle of nowhere.

Ehh, Braga is talented, but did a lot of stupid things as well.

25. raffie - September 22, 2011

He was obviously too closely involved to look at “Enterprise” objectively, but that show, it’s writing, the majority of it’s actors and characters were terribly, terribly bad. The end result was a boring show people didn’t care to watch anymore and so it, together with any possible subsequent Star Trek show, was canned.

26. The Inner Light - September 22, 2011

The addition of Jeri Ryan and boobs in my mind is the same as the addition of Jolene Blalock and her boobs. Yes, I loved looking at them, and yes TOS had the same.

I think there was one plain and stupid mistake made with both. They should have just been put into a uniform. Plain and simple. There was no reason that both wore cat suits, and that was the distracting and VERY unrealistic part.

Marina Sirtis looked much better when they finally put her in a uniform and it was more natural. Create realism and then the sex appeal is more natural.

27. star trackie - September 22, 2011

Enterprise was a good show. The problem was, it came on the heels of Voyager and, to a much lesser extent, Ds9, which had respectively eroded the mainstream audience. You need more than die hard fans to carry a show and with each subsequent sequel they delivered more of the same song and dance. Watching an episode of Voyager, or even Enterprise at times, always felt like an episode of TNG…same aesthetics, same music, same story structure etc. People, and I’m talking about the mainstream viewing audience, and even some of the fan base, simply grew tired of it.

28. Chadwick - September 22, 2011

I feel the same way as Brannon. Enterprise was fresh and fun. I didnt want another show which took place in the TNG/DS9/VOY era. And the new movie going back to kirks time is a little unoriginal. I LOVE Enterprise for the reasons he states, it was fresh, fun, and closer to our time. I really hope a new TV series will cover an era we have not explored, somewhere between Kirk and TNG era or 100 years past TNG. The Xindi arc was awesome, and the last season was crammed full of great episodes, the WWII arc, the explanation of the Klingon ridges, the Vulcan awakening, the augments, the mirror universe. It was damn juicy!

I am hoping a new TV series will capture the essence of TOS but add some flare, just like how the new Battlestar is nothing like the old one or Stargate Universe is nothing like Atlantis or SG1. With todays tech, todays issues, we could have an awesome new trek TV series.

Its a treat that the Star Trek franchise has 11 movies soon to be 12 but Star Trek was always meant to be a weekly ride. Waiting 2,3, even 4 years just to catch a two hour glimpse of Star Trek at a movie theatre is to put it bluntly maddening!!!

29. Danpaine - September 22, 2011

#19 – Kahn 2.0:

Ever since I heard about that concept, I’ve thought the same thing. That would have been PERFECT.

30. Craiger - September 22, 2011

I think B&B were afraid to write the Romulan War for fear of a Human seeing a Romulan since that would go against canon. Good writers would have been able to find a way around that. Enterprise should have been about the Romulan War and the founding of the Federation after that.

31. Doug - September 22, 2011

I just don’t get why people hate on STE. Those same people probably love DS9, which I have bought a couple seasons on DVD but just can’t get into it, it’s pure pain to watch, so damn boring to each his own i guess.

32. T'Cal - September 22, 2011

My biggest problem with ENT was the writing and how, for some characters and episodes, it was hit or miss. The acting was good to excellent as were the special effects and sets. I thoroughly enjoyed the characters Trip, Malcolm, Phlox and Hoshi but I really didn’t like or care about the main characters, Archer and T’Pol. The completely dropped the ball on Travis giving him a line or two each week at the end. The same probably could be said about Hoshi and to a lesser extent Malcolm. What a waste. That show had potential especially with Bakula, a very good actor playing a pivotal character but they simply didn’t know how to write for him or his character. I imagined him a courageous captain, ethical and moral, and a strong leader who lead by example. Now he’s thrust into situations that no human has been placed in before with “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” dilemmas the norm. In most, his struggle ends in success. In others, there are extreme consequences that rear their ugly heads later in the season or even later in the series. Then he must fix his mistakes, do what is right, and move forward for the sake of humanity and its new relationships.

DS9 and BSG did the relationship part better than any scifi show I know. Each character had a well-defined and unique relationship with each main character as well as some peripheral ones. I credit Ronald D. Moore with this success and I look forward to his next series.

33. P Technobabble - September 22, 2011

I agree that TNG – ENT were shows that had some problems, in terms of our preferences about what we wanted to see and what we didn’t want to see. But, honestly, this poor guy can’t talk about Star Trek without getting beaten up. It’s fairly obvious that Braga didn’t think of working on Trek as just a job. After working on the TNG series and films, he probably could have moved on to other things easily, but he chose to stay with Trek. He stayed and persevered. He may have missed the mark at times, but who doesn’t?

34. Aussie Ian - September 22, 2011

I for one, am grateful to Mr Braga for his contribution to Trek Canon. I loved TOS, TNG and ENTERPRISE and these are the only series that I own on DVD / BLU-RAY.

To me Star Trek was always about 3 things – a triumvirate of main characters,(Kirk-Spock-McCoy, Picard-Riker-Data and Archer-Trip-T’pol) introducing the audience to new philosophies through alien of the week and a starship called Enterprise.

Sorry but DS9 just showed me how Paramount could bugger up “Babylon 5″, which had a much more thought through war arc than the Dominion ever was ……
and
Voyager proved that the bastard son of the marriage between “Gilligan’s Island” and “Lost in Space” couldn’t work in a Trek setting either.

Whether other posters in this forum think Braga blew it or not is irrelevant! He co-wrote some of Trek’s finest hours of the last 20 years, was paid truckloads of money by Paramount and got to go home with Jeri Ryan each night.

“WINNING!”

35. Craiger - September 22, 2011

Allthough I wonder if they had continued Enterprise would they have done the Romulan War and tied the Xindi War into that. They could have had the Xindi help Earth during the Romulan War for remorse after finding out they were lied to by the Guardians.

36. Desstruxion - September 22, 2011

Janeway: “Crew, I’d like you to meet 7 of 9…..can someone get the young lady a uniform? No uniforms left huh? OK then let’s just replicate some silver spandex and put her to work.”

I know it didn’t happen that way but I’ve never understood (other than the sex appeal part of it) why Trek insisted on being blatantly obvious when it came to the these types of roles. 7, T’pol and Troi should all have been in uniform.

37. VZX - September 22, 2011

@36: Desstruxion

Exactly. I mean, why did the Maquis such as Chakotay and BeLanna Torres get Starfleet uniforms but not 7 0f 9?

38. rm10019 - September 22, 2011

Interesting read, nothing really new I guess. I don’t think, frankly, that Braga was the right person to inherit the franchise. He was a good contributor, but certainly wasn’t an innovator. Both Berman and Braga were good at delivering Trek on budget and on time, but creatively, after a point (1995ish?) were just stunted.

39. Christine - September 22, 2011

#36 :: Agreed. From DS9, Dax and Kira (who I’ll say are the socially accepted definition of aesthetically pleasing) both were in uniform throughout the series and I certainly wouldn’t say that was any degradation of sex appeal. If you try to make the physical sex appeal too obvious and cram it down the audience’s throat, it’s all they can think about. If a character’s going to be part of the crew they should fit it. Let the “sexiness” speak for itself. It’s much more enticing when it’s not so obvious.

40. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - September 22, 2011

Enterprise had some of the greatest Eps pf Star Trek. Simitude and In a Mirrior Darkly and E2. The last Season of Enterprise as pretty much everyone who has seen says that it was the best. I wish they would have had Manny Cotto start Enterprise and if he had 7 seasons would have been an easy thing. Also the Music of the show was Terrible. On youtube there are a couple of Alternate Openings that they did produce but did not use. To bad it would have set a much better tone.

41. Phil - September 22, 2011

These guys produced years of good Trek, and certin elements of the fan base won’t let them forget the failures. I may not agree with everything they did, but they kept Trek in the public eye for close to 20 years – no small feat!

42. Khan 2.0 - September 22, 2011

i wonder what stuff a season 5 of Enterprise wouldve thrown up (or even season 6 and 7 too)

- Shatner as Kirk (Mirror Kirk or some time travel thing or even his grandpop)

- Romulan War

- a flashfoward last ep of Archer and Tpol at the launch of the NCC 1701 (maybe with a young Spock)

43. dub - September 22, 2011

Every time I think about what Voyager could have been, it’s potential, I get so frustrated. Reading this has reminded me of that. While I do like Voyager, I wonder what it could have been if they really went there with risk, danger and “realness.” Voyager could have been so amazing. Urgggh!

44. Khan 2.0 - September 22, 2011

@29 – i’ll go one further….What if Star Trek VI in 1991 had been part 1 of a two parter leading into TNGs 1st movie in 1994?? – VI ending on a cliff hanger with the supposed destruction of 1701-A and the loss of all hands as Enterprise was blasted into the time distortion as Chang fired a huge final volley at her. The Federation President is therefore assassinated and all hell breaks loose leading to war with the klingons. Last scene of Trek VI could have been Kirk seeing the Ent D on the viewer…’to be continued..’

Then Generations opens with Picard and Co encountering Kirk and Co and the badly damaged Enterprise A in the war-torn alternate time line of the 24th century..(they did something similar to that in fairly recent comics ‘The Last Generation’)

45. Desstruxion - September 22, 2011

@42. Those are some great ideas. Pity we’ll never see them.

46. AJ - September 22, 2011

The best way to “save” Voyager would have been to have them come home ASAP and take up where DS9 left off. Both TNG and DS9 exited with an active Alpha Quadrant with many untold stories left in it. I found 7 of 9 interesting, for sure. Bring her along!

Instead, Voyager just hammered the Borg into the ground as it pooped out its last few seasons. Some gems in there, of course, but too obvious.

47. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - September 22, 2011

Bring Back Star Trek Enterprise and have it set a few monthes before the Star of the Romulan War and the founding of the Federation.

48. Shaun - September 22, 2011

#14: “Clearly I’m the only one who liked the Xindi arc. No, I didn’t like it – I loved it. I thought they were some of the most interesting aliens as a collective culture since DS9’s Dominion.”

i agree with you about the xindi. with all of his “sex talk” in various interviews over the years, i always thought brannon braga was kind of lame, and his true motivations behind bringing jeri ryan on board voyager became clear…at least to me. but when it comes to enterprise, i am actually going to give him some love this time… i completely agree with him about the 3rd and 4th seasons of enterprise. yes, the audience had grown tired with the series; but creatively, the series had finally started to grow. i wanted so much to see how that group of writers (and the show’s characters) would create the federation.

49. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - September 22, 2011

@2

I detect a hint that you think they were the downfall of star trek?

IF so I disagree. Enterprise is a great show that i never watched till 4 years after it ended. I only wish I had watched it while on tv to help boost ratings.

I think there are 2 reasons why Enterprise “failed”

#1 Star trek was sachurated all over tv and on the big screen.

#2 The main factor I believe is that a Prequel is inharently opposit of what Star Trek’s main theme is, and that is to move forward to better ourselves. Prequels are a step back ward and that is why I did not watch enterprise when it came out. Although enterprise was a great series.

What are your thoughts Mr Balls?

50. Red Dead Ryan - September 22, 2011

“Enterprise” in my opinion was a good show. I really liked Captain Archer, who was well played by Scott Bakula. The rest of the cast was good as well. Seasons three and four are classics (minus “These Are The Voyages…” of course!) while the first two seasons were a bit slow.

But the best Trek ever made was……”Deep Space Nine”. That show had it all!

As for “Yesterday’s Enterprise” being saved as a big budget TOS/TNG crossover movie, I agree, though that episode did help save TNG and ended up as one of the most popular episodes of all of Trek. It was a fantastic episode, which also featured a rare female captain. Also, the idea of a TNG movie at that point was not even on the radar. The producers and studio was more concerned about the short term success of the show.

51. CmdrR - September 22, 2011

I’ve liked all the Treks so far, all for different reasons. I’d like to see JJ put some brain behind his brawny Trek, but who knows whether the suits at Paramountain-of-cash will let him even if he wants to. As for the whole Voyager and Enterprise sucked harangue… hey, there were some dull ones, but there were good ones, too. Hey, it’s TV, ya know!!

52. Harry Ballz - September 22, 2011

49.

DS9, I agree with others here that Manny Coto should have been in charge of Enterprise from the beginning. He did a brilliant job on the show “24″ and would have done wonders for Enterprise.

Also, as much as I like Scott Bakula as a person and actor in light comedies, he was totally miscast as Archer.

53. Simon - September 22, 2011

Part of the reason ENTERPRISE failed was the internet fanboy effect: people were bagging on the show months before it premiered. And not watching something because you don’t like the frikkin’ THEME SONG??? Ridiculous.

People also forget just how bad the first couple years of TNG were. Sure there were a few great episodes but by and large both seasons were a bust. If the same fanboys had internet access in 1989 they did in 2001 the show would have ended right then and there. Fact is ENTERPRISE had better quality overall for those first 2 seasons than TNG did.

Berman & Braga didn’t kill TREK on TV. The fanboys did. You can see examples in the comments right here of the kind of ignorance you read online in 2001-2003.

54. Buzz Cagney - September 22, 2011

It would be wrong to say they did no good work, even though I’m not much of a fan of non-TOS shows.
Enterprise is the exception though. Really, properly, bad.

55. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - September 22, 2011

@52

That does make some sence, it might have been different with Coto at the helm, but what do you think about Prequels for star trek? Wrong direction or something different to make it good?

56. Harry Ballz - September 22, 2011

@55.

Hey, I think a prequel to Star Trek was at least worth the attempt, but it’s all in the execution. And by execution, I don’t mean killing the franchise! :>)

57. Browncoat1984 - September 22, 2011

That’s a science fiction concept I’d never seen before. You had insects and [aquatics] with intelligence and culture.

Didn’t Star Wars do that like way before Star Trek did?

Still, initially I blamed Berman and Braga for the downfall of ST on TV but in recent years as I’ve reflected on it I came to realize that there was no one reason except maybe franchise fatigue. This especially in light of the Stargate franchise’s downfall on SyFy. With ST you had a number of issues that just finally created that “Perfect Storm” situation. The stories being told were not much different in Voy or Ent than TNG and people were tired of the same style of storytelling. We were promised something different in Ent and instead, much like Voy. was TNG 2.0 Ent was Voy 2.0. You had UPN which, much like SyFy did absolutely NO outside advertising for its products. You had 700+ episodes in 17 years so I think fans really just needed a break. We wanted some fresh talent in there and got it with J.J. Abrams.

Like Stargate though, I would have loved to see maybe one or two movies to give proper closure to the Trek franchise of the Berman and Braga era, maybe combo movies or a miniseries that would combine casts (the same way the Destiny trilogy of novels did) and pave the way for Abrams’ Trek.

I do believe though, that Enterprise has aged well over time. Just as I believe that of The Phantom Menace (which didn’t annoy me as much intiailly as it did others) – which I recently re-watched on Blu Ray (still have some annoyances, like Jake Lloyd’s terrible acting and over-use of Jar Jar. Had Jar Jar been used less and not made to be as much of a buffon as he is it would have been much better).

58. petrichor - September 22, 2011

@57.
>J.J. Abrams
>talent
Pick one.

59. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - September 22, 2011

@56

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I agree lol

60. Daniel - September 22, 2011

If I had written as many ST scripts as he had, I would be dang proud of it. I think he did a good job under difficult circumstances.

61. Khan 2.0 - September 22, 2011

just think if Enterprise had been a ratings success and had continued for another 3 seasons there more than likely wouldve been an Enterprise movie around xmas 2009

maybe itd have featured TOS somehow (what with the popularity of classic Trek continuing)

62. Starfleet's Finest - September 22, 2011

Ya know, I really liked VOY and Enterprise at the beginning. Janeway, the first female captain (at least the first one that was a recurring character) which of course was a huge leap for female Trek kind. And Enterprise I felt, was going to be the younger generation’s Trek, in other words, my Trek. Well, I can tell you that love affair did not last long.

I thought (even then) that bringing 7 of 9 into the VOY cast was a blatant attempt to gain a few more viewers by sticking a blonde bombshell in a skin tight spandex body suit. It really made me stop and think, “How is a woman like this on Star Trek? Maybe she was intoxicated at the time…” And by the time season 5 ended I had pretty much lost interest. The same goes for Enterprise…I was just utterly lost when they hit season 3.

Though there were redeeming qualities for Enterprise in my opinion. I personally loved the tension between humans and vulcans at the beginning. I completely bought into the fact that vulcans looked down at mankinds infancy in technology and experience. I thought it was a nice and understandable twist. Not too mention they had some nice story lines…but unfortunately not enough to make an impact…on me at least.

But, I had to laugh when Braga commented that he’ll ‘take responsibility’ for some bad decisions. Personally I’m suprised anyone would admit a storyline mistake to a bunch of Trekkies…but I guess some people do have a deathwish…though, it also sounds like he didn’t need to extend the invitation

63. Jay - September 22, 2011

All I am going to say about this thread is that hindsight is a wonderful thing…

In general I find it hard for any writer/creators of tv/film not to make a mistake from time to time… after all we all forget that TOS was CANCELLED.

I even believe that JJ/Orci/Whoever dropped the ball big time on ST:2009, and that the prequel story told in the ST:Countdown comic would have been a better first film as it said a proper goodbye to old trek and brought in the new film more logically, instead of dropping the whole “This is an alternative timeline” thing into our laps…

It would have also introduce Nero a little bit more, as for me, he was one of the lamest ST baddies of all time…

Just my two cents…

64. Khan 2.0 - September 22, 2011

@63 – i was re reading CD the other night and it really is one of the best star trek stories ive ever read…itd make an awesome film starring Leonard Nimoy, Eric Bana, Patrick Stewart, Brent Spiner (with a little CGing), Michael Dorn and Levar Burton

if theyd known Trek 2 was going to take so long Paramount couldve made a movie of ‘Countdown’ for summer or xmas 2011 and had someone like J Frakes direct it!

65. Vultan - September 22, 2011

To anyone interested, Braga and Moore’s commentary for ST: Generations is really a breath of fresh air. Well, at least it was refreshing and interesting to hear a couple of writers give a frank and sometimes brutal assessment of their own movie.

It was… educational.

66. Jeff O'Connor - September 22, 2011

I left a friendly message for him on the interview’s webpage. I hope he reads it. Not everything he did was good but not everything just about anyone does is good. And hell… 15 years. That’s a long time. Plus there were some episodes of Braga’s I really did love.

67. THX-1138 - September 22, 2011

No, I haven’t read all the comments.

The thing that was the death knell for TV Trek was the fact that they spread themselves too thin with multiple series and movies. I liked DS9, and Enterprise and Voyager did have some good points, but getting rid of TNG from the tube just to make TNG movies was a bad idea. After watching and re-watching TNG recently on DVD, there was a lot of great story telling going on. And some darn fine TV science fiction that paved the way for a lot of great sci-fi that came after it. I truly could have watched the crew of the Enterprise and TNG for another 10 more years.

They killed the Golden Goose and then found themselves spread too thin as a production company. IMO.

68. Khan 2.0 - September 22, 2011

@67 – another 10 years of TNG wouldve been pushing it! however Paramount couldve not bothered with DS9 or VOY and instead done another couple of years of TNG until 1996 and also done another film with the original cast for 1993 or 94 (something along the lines of Shatners ‘Ashes of Eden’ maybe directed by N Meyer again) and then done the ‘Generations’ film in 1996 for the 30th anniversary (more Yesterdays Enterprise/All Good Things than what was done)

then started the standalone TNG movies in 98 (First Contact)

its a shame they finished making movies with the original cast when they did. Shatner and Nimoy would have only been 65 if they had been in a final film in 1996. the same age H Ford was in the last Indy!

69. Khan 2.0 - September 22, 2011

-or alternatively done the Yesterdays Ent style VII/GEN in 1994 while TNG was still on tv X Files style and then done First Contact as was in 96 the same year TNG show ended…

70. Dr. Image - September 22, 2011

Problem #1: BAD WRITING. Not “franchise fatigue.” Sigh.
(BB still breathing his own fumes, I see.)

71. Pensive's Wetness - September 22, 2011

@8 exactly! there was no sence of decay from lack of support. hell, everyone’s hair was always perfect. He can think all he wants… who cares?

72. James - September 22, 2011

Personally i think it was a perfect time to end TNG with All good things – the story telling was at its peak so why not end on a high? As for Generations whilst the ending wasnt good…and that putting mildly as a character driven film it was excellent, as for Enterprise…. it still makes me want to chunder.

73. John from Cincinnati - September 22, 2011

For me, Star Trek on television died the day Gene Coon left the original series.

74. PEB - September 22, 2011

I’d watch a show set in or right after the time of Captain Robau. I loved the gritty look of the ships exterior and interior, the crew set-up and everything. THAT would be a good way to do nu-Trek on tv, as long as episodes didnt slip into BSG-like territory.

75. Canon Schmanon - September 22, 2011

Voyager was never good in my mind, so I didn’t mind the addition of 7o9. At least there was something to look at and lust over, but it was really the death rattle of the show. It made everybody look stupid, especially the ship’s men. I guess men in the future are sexless eunuchs, otherwise most of them would be staring at her ass and breasts. It was too much to ask of me to believe that in the future, men would have no reaction to a goddess in a tight, tight catsuit and heels!

We may be more “civilized” in the future, but I doubt that evolution, whether societal or biological, is going to make men unresponsive to visual stimuli. Especially something as visually stimulating as Jeri Ryan.

Once they threw human nature to the wayside, I knew they were lost. But I’d still turn in now and then to marvel at Ryan. I didn’t watch Enterprise regularly enough to know how they handled Blalock in a tight tight catsuit. Maybe it was handled better, but it would have been one of the few things they did right, as far as I can see.

Braga earned himself a great paycheck turning out uninspired stories filled with lackluster acting. The sole blame certainly isn’t his, but he undoubtedly played a large part in gutting Star Trek and leaving behind a desiccated corpse of a show.

76. TheKeeper - September 22, 2011

Why is TrekMovie.Com always throwing in stories about this idiot who almost destroyed Star Trek? I know there are TNG fans out there who worship the ground this guy stumbles on, but really, that series wasn;’t all that great with maybe (and I do MEAN MAYBE) 2 dozen good episodes and thats about it after 7 seasons.
DS9 had some good points but not mch else.
VOY and Ent were just never interesting characterwise.

For me Star Trek Canon begins and ends with TOS and movies..beyond that it’s gibberish filler for the ultra diehards (who BTW are equally guilty of helping to destroy ST)

77. Canon Schmanon - September 22, 2011

76. TheKeeper – So in your mind I’m guilty of killing Star Trek because I liked TNG and DS9? Well, in my mind, you’re an idiot.

78. Comm Lohmann - September 22, 2011

“As good as the Xindi arc was, I didn’t need it. Plus, just like lots of other situations on the show, how have we never heard of them or their attack and threat against Earth before?”

I’ve heard this complaint before and frankly it is silly. How many times do you hear Pearl Harbor referenced on contemporary TV shows? Can you cite one instance from any series where they would should have referenced the attack but didn’t?

“The show just rewrote Star Trek history to suit it’s needs, never caring to fill-in and depict the history most fans cared about and wanted to see.”

Which is what they should have done. The best way to kill a franchise is to give the fans exactly what they expect.

79. Gigastazio - September 22, 2011

Braga just sows that he still doesn’t get it. It wasn’t the ideas and the concepts that fans criticized – it was the execution. A fresh concept can’t survive if much of what’s holding it up is re-hashed plots and awkward, ham-handed dialogue. it frustrates and alienates both actors and audiences. Coto is credited for making Enterprise’s final season its strongest, and I’m convinced that it’s just because he was a better writer, period.

80. Kev-1 - September 22, 2011

“All Good Things” was excellent. Always liked Q. Don’t think Kirk was a sex addict, that’s a cliche, along with tribbles and “Dr.” Spock. He never did anything with an Orion slave girl. Kirk had what, serious relationships with Ruth, the lab tech, Janet Wallace , Janice Lester and Edith Keeler? We know he made love to Miramanee (amnesia) and Deela (irresistible). Anyway, while I liked the spinoffs, the producers just didn’t seem to understand or appreciate TOS.

81. N - September 22, 2011

Both DS9 and Voyager became great at season 4, they got the characters they needed. Enterprise was great too, I loved the Xindi, I though the way the Vulcans had so much more development than in any other series and season 4 was wonderful. I like TNG but to a lesser extent than the other 3. TOS is unwatchable.

#2 I’m going to take the unpopular stand here and say I love Generations and each of the films following it. First 6 are just poor, though Voyage Home isn’t too bad.

For me, it was Berman and Braga that basically made the franchise.

82. slayerone76 - September 22, 2011

A stuck up, unflinching fandom killed Trek as we knew it. Now you get lens flares, no true character development, inappropriate relationships, and complete action.

Each Trek was unique in its own way and added to the lore. Were there bad episodes? Sure. All series have bad episodes.

When you can’t see past your own preconceptions and can’t tolerate change, of course you won’t like something.

Fandom killed Trek.

83. Allen Williams - September 22, 2011

The only 100% pure terd he ever released was vgr: threshold. Its was an insult to the audience.

84. Canon Schmanon - September 22, 2011

82. slayerone76 – Actually, in my opinion, there was some pretty good character development in Abrams’ Star Trek. At least with Kirk and Spock. It’s pretty hard to criticize such a thing when Abrams has had two hours to work with, and TOS had nearly 80 hours to work with, TNG and DS9 had about 150 hours apiece, same with Voyager, Enterprise about 80.

The other Trek films had the benefit of those hours of history behind them. Of course there was going to be more character development.

The inappropriate relationships is a matter of opinion, I guess. But complete action? I remember quite a few scenes without action. When there WAS action, it was much more fast paced than we have seen in Star Trek. That was a good thing, IN MY OPINION.

I found it to be a very good film, with some important flaws, but I can find just as many flaws in the other films. That is, if you care to look. The way I see it, if you’re going to hold Abrams to certain standards, you have to hold the other films to that same standard, and I think it performed admirably against them. Better than most of them, in fact.

85. VZX - September 23, 2011

@ 73:John from Cincinnati

So, you didn’t like the 3rd season at all? Some of it sucked, but there were some awesome eps as well…. My favorite is actually Elaan of Troius, but that’s just me.

I appreciate Gene Coon for creating the Klingons amoung other things.

86. star trackie - September 23, 2011

#80 “Anyway, while I liked the spinoffs, the producers just didn’t seem to understand or appreciate TOS.”

Agreed, while an interesting, often dull but once in a blue moon, exciting TV series, TNG and it spin-offs were nothing remotely close to STarTrek, which is, and should be, the blueprint for all things carrying that name.

I found TNG, with the exception of maybe 9 or 10 episodes, excruciatingly talky and boring, straying far from the the formula layed down in 1966. It was good TV sometimes, but not very creative and certainly not very good Star Trek. Not to say a lot of people didn’t like it. They did. But for those tuning in to see something familair, it was quite a shock. Conversely, I found JJ’s Trek to be very much in line with the blueprints layed down by Roddenberry, Coon and the gang so many years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. Again, TNG and its spin-offs weren’t bad television, I just dont like to keep my apples and oranges all in the same basket.

87. Tom - September 23, 2011

Star Trek 1966-2005 will always be my favorite if things continue the way they’re going. My hats off to these guys for providing enjoyable television and movies for 40 years, especially to Rick Berman who was there since about ’87.

Looking forward to returning to the original universe which was never in need of a reboot. A new TV series is what Trek needs right now, continuing 10 years after Nemesis. That way you can bring on guest actors that are still alive and reprise their roles.

88. DestinyCaptain - September 23, 2011

The problem with Braga is that he didn’t like Trek. It was just a money maker to him. He stayed way too long at the party. His ideas were neither fresh or very interesting. He favored the event over characters. He couldn’t be bothered to follow continuity,even the continuity of the Trek he had a hand in creating. Despite what he said above, he clearly wanted Ryan on the show for her looks. He got very lucky she had acting ability. The other problem with Braga is that he was very jealous of Ron Moore and worked against him to freeze him out when the big transition time came at the end of DS9 to VOY and VOY to ENT pre-production.

Braga and Berman supposedly did a lot of research and prep going in to ENT. Did it look that way to anyone? Ent did have a few good moments inspite of itself. However, it is so wrong on so many levels. Braga could not handle writing for a prequel. The evidence of that is the thrusting of all things TNG and VOY down ENT’s throat. Borg? Ferengai? Holodecks? Riker and Troi? Brent Spinner?

I don’t hate the guy, I wish he’d have moved on to do his own stuff after GEN. In an interview done a few years ago, he couldn’t even remember what a tricorder did. What’s the big deal there? Well, even if he didn’t like or love Trek, you’d think that after spending nearly 20 years with it he’d have gotten that information down just by osmosis. Heck, I worked in an industry I throughly hated for 20 years and I STILL know tons of ecrutiating details of day to day operations. This is not because I want to, it’s because I did it EVERY single day for years and years. The fact that he can’t remember something like what a tricorder does seems very telling to me about how little he kept up with things while he was there. That’s apathy.

Oh and just for the record, while Nick Meyer deserves a lot of the credit for WOK, he is just as clueless about Trek as Braga and Berman. Heck, I’d toss Abrams in their camp as well. I’d still like to see RDM take a turn at running it. Atleast he knows the source material.

89. captain_neill - September 23, 2011

76

Just like on this site everyone worships JJ ABrams as if he could do no wrong. Same argument, different side of the fence.

I like all the shows and I loved the work Brannon Braga did on Trek, he wrote the high concept stories I loved on TNG. Perhaps he was there for too long.

Don’t criticise Berman and Braga by saying they were clueless about Trek, as DestinyCaptain said Nick Meyer and the Abrams were equally in the dark. Hell the over worshipped Abrams clearly said he preferred Star Wars.

Nick Meyer made one of the best Treks. I am sorry but I think this site is sometimes too much in love with Abrams that everyone else seems to fall short.

I am also looking forward to trying Terra Nova and hope this show is a success for Brannon.

90. Rocket Scientist - September 23, 2011

89 captain_neill

Not everyone, my friend!

91. THX-1138 - September 23, 2011

Here is another possible explanation for the death of Trek on TV and probably an elephant inhabiting the living room:

By and large, Trek fandom just doesn’t get behind the “spin-offs”. As compelling as the storytelling may have been in DS9, VOY, and Ent., Perhaps people only found an emotional investment in the adventures of the crew of the Enterprises-TOS and TNG. I don’t think I would be as interested in the adventures of the Kelvin as I would the adventures of the 25th, 26th, 27th century (or perhaps 3,000 AD?) Enterprise.

But perhaps it really was just a case of too much Star Trek.

92. Lt. Bailey - September 23, 2011

JJ may have given us some Trek but he did not give what I think is Trek. While it was a good film, it was nto the best in mu opinion and I do have to say that a lot of people do feel he can do no wrong for what ever reason. Some of his other films do nothing for me at all, unlike other directors: Spieberg, Cameron, Lucas, Nimoy, Meyer who have a done lots of films in other areas too.

But Braga has given a great run and I happen to feel that ENT was a great show. Sure it had some misfires for episode and that goes for all the other series, even TOS which I love deeply. I think it boiled down to the fans thought they were getting some else with ENT and did not want to get into it once they got dissappointed with it because it did not carry on with the 24th century or go beyond that time.

That begs the question, well how far into the future do you want? Why not a prequel? There has to have been some history between Alan Shepards flight to when Kirk took command. I just think that had ENT got a run of 5 or 6 years, we would have seen some fantastic stuff, the Romulan War for one. That needs to seen on film. Although the recent novels of ENT dealing with the Romulan War are all we got, if those got turned into the series or a film… it would have been glorious!

93. Bill Shatner's Girdle - September 23, 2011

Everything after DS9 was really bad and everybody knows it. I’ll be happy once TNG comes on high definition format to rewatch those. There comes a point where the idea well has run dry.

94. Christine - September 23, 2011

#93 :: On the contrary! Do you see how many books are published every year? So many of them are very original, intuitive stories and deeper plots which could be explored in a movie, series, etc. The idea well has only run dry if they try to cater to one specific audience. It needs to be fresh, but not completely foreign. That’s why the 4th season of ENT was such a success — and why the series’ cancellation so devastating to fans.

95. Will_H - September 23, 2011

I still think Trekkies are too hard on Enterprise. It was a good idea that just needed to be put together better. Had the ship its self been better designed and I think had they left out the whole Temporal Cold War bit I think it would have faired better.

96. Red Dead Ryan - September 23, 2011

#94.

Well said, Christine! Hopefully you’ll post on a regular basis. Love reading your posts!

97. Good writers and good stories can fix the problem - September 23, 2011

The following reveals the superficial nonesense that Brannon Braga brought us:

“That’s a science fiction concept I’d never seen before. You had insects and [aquatics] with intelligence and culture. I thought that was a fascinating idea and we turned it into a season-long arc that I thought was super-fresh.”

Braga thought making creatures water-based or making them insects was important or groundbreaking. …Riggggght.

The truly amazing thing is that I couldn’t wait for STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE to be cancelled, so that someone new could come in and make something worth seeing…

…and then Manny Coto came along for the fourth season, and the show was suddenly awesome, and it was now very painful to see STAR TREK: ENTEPRISE being cancelled, because it had become such a good show under his direction.

The lesson:

The actors were the same. (And they had worked hard all those years.)
The special effects were mostly the same. (And the effects artists had worked hard all those years.)
The music was mostly the same. (I never did like the theme, but the rest was good.)

New writers made all the difference. Good writers can liberate an otherwise mediocre series and allow the actors and the effects and the situations to suddenly shine and capture our attention.

98. Greenberg - September 23, 2011

#16,
you’re talking about what went on at the job interview, I imagine.

99. Kirk, James T. - September 24, 2011

I think many would agree that Enterprise could have been a lot better than it was. The acting was superb but the stories lacked originality and I think this is where they needed new blood into give Star Trek a bit of a kick up the arse. I think adding the 7of9 character was fine but it didn’t really address the real problem in that the writers had been writing Star Trek for so long that understandably, they became drained of anything original. The first two seasons of Enterprise were just like any of the episodes in TNG or DS9 or Voyager. Where Enterprise got good was when Many Coto was brought in. I think yes it was too little too late but it’s obvious that the stories improved and Enterprise was coming together nicely.

I do think that art-direction wise, it looked out of place and a bit like TNG-era. It should have been a bit more TOS or JJ Abrams in style or failing that, more naval based, like gritty, dark, dangerous submarines in space and things of that sort.

But we can all look back now and easily criticise it. As it stands today, Enterprise is the least respected of Star Trek shows and I honestly don’t know why. In my opinion, Enterprise was far better than Voyager ever was. It just came about and was slow to adapt at a time when TV was changing dramatically.

100. Kirk, James T. - September 24, 2011

And on a side note, the theme tune wasn’t that bad at all. I didn’t much care for the jingled up version in season 3 and 4 and do I wish they had chosen a dramatic, orchestral piece, yes. But I LOVED the opening credit montage, I thought that captured the essence of Star Trek superbly.

I think Enterprise will be remembered fondly as time goes on, I know I remember it fondly. Although I was old enough to watch TNG’s first run on BBC2, Enterprise was the first Trek series I watched from beginning to end, really enjoying it at the time and 6 years later, still enjoying it today.

I even have the action figures!

101. roy - September 24, 2011

68, Maybe you and quite a number of people would have carried on watching TNG on tv, the problem would have been an ever so diminishing audience with each passing year. Plus the fact that the writers were very much running out of story ideas as Ron Moore as stated many times and by 1994 TNG had already passed it’s pinnacle. Then it would have been only a question of time before the show would have passed it’s selling date. So it made sense for the Studio to bring the tv show to a close before it would start to wane and create the transition for those group of actors to the big screen. So in essence the golden goose was brought to a close at the right time

102. roy - September 24, 2011

My previous response was meant to be in response to 67.

Now 67, you make a point about how the original cast could have carried on the big screen for another movie. A couple of months before Star Trek VI was to premiere, David Letterman suggested that the title of the movie should be “The Search For Geritol” and he got some good laughs. The interesting aspect the media agreed and questioned how many more movies would the studio keep releasing with these aging stars. In hindsight ending the original film franchise in 1991 proved to be the right time as TNG was the new face of the Star Trek franchise and this is where the studio wanted the focus to be on. So it was just a question of when and how to bring the TNG on the big screen and 1994 proved to be the fruitful year for this to have happened.

103. roy - September 24, 2011

Sorry for mistake again as last response was for 68

104. William Kirk - September 24, 2011

I think it is Braga´s and Berman´s fault, that Trek was “killed”. At the beginning, Braga´s episodes were very good and Berman´s supervising, too, but during the years, it has changed…to the bitter end.

105. Khan 2.0 - September 24, 2011

@102 yeah i suppose the original cast were wrapped up pretty well in VI for there to be a final FINAL film in 94 …plus as u say it was TNG was at the absoulte height of its popularity and it was time for it to wrap up and hit the big screen

just a shame Generations wasnt a better cross over…then again there is the argument of was a cross over movie even neccesary? the whole passing the torch thing had been sort of done at the 25th anniversary with Star Trek VI (how peace with the klingons emerged…Worf…Kirks final log entry) & even had nimoy passing the baton in Unification…They didnt really need to do a crossover film…just a full on TNG movie as TNG was popular in its own right…

in hindsight perhaps when they realised they wouldnt be able to get the 2 enterprises on screen with the 2 complete crews the crossover film should possibly have been scrapped. (braga or moore even said that as soon as the crossover film was suggested the image that came into his head was a movie poster with the 2 enterprises and Kirk, Spock plus Picard and Data)

I actually quite like Generations as it is but believe a crossover movie would only have been really great (im talking TWOK great) if it had been the ‘Yesterdays Enterprise’ storyline (yeah it had already been done but certain TOS eps had been ‘remade’ as movies before)

106. just some guy - September 24, 2011

I loved Enterprise too. The characters were very good, and they were what I watched the show to see. I didn’t like the Xindi season-long story arc, but it was a experiment. I think it was worth trying. The fourth season reminded me of stories from the novels, and I liked that very much. My only real complaint is the way the show ended. I can’t believe they made the last episode about Riker.

Overall, I think Enterprise was a great show, and it’s too bad it got caught at the end of the franchise and was blamed for its demise. Very unfair.

107. SciFiGuy - September 25, 2011

#2, if they had been smoking grass I think Generations might have been better! HAHAHA!!!

108. Damian - September 25, 2011

I for one thank Brannon and Rick for many great years of Star Trek. I like the new take Abrams has taken too.

#14–I loved the Xindi arc too. Technically it was another part of the temporal cold war, but I found the Xindi to be much more interesting then the Suliban. There were a few good Suliban episodes, but by and large the Cabal was a weak opponent. My only dissappointment with Enterprise is that we never got to see the Romulan War on screen, we were just one more season away. I’m glad the novels have picked up on it at least (though I am bothered to see that the next book will be the last–perhaps even the last Enterprise book–it seems to me they could have a half dozen books on the war alone).

This is just one of those areas people are not going to agree on. I like all Star Trek. Those of you who think Braga and Berman ruined Star Trek are entitled to your opinions. I always felt they kept Star Trek going. Instead of it dying with Gene Roddenberry, Star Trek soldiered on. Don’t forget, The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine were two of the highest rated syndicated shows on TV at the time. First Contact came out during this period and was a blockbuster as well. These guys have nothing to be ashamed of overall.

109. Harry Ballz - September 25, 2011

#107. “smoking grass”

Uh, no.

To watch a movie, go ahead and smoke. To write a screenplay, foolish in the extreme.

110. chrisfawkes.com - September 26, 2011

Seven of Nine was one of the best Star Trek characters ever created

and true that there has always been lots of sex appeal in early Star Trek. Jerry Ryan just amped it up for modern times whereas other modern treks had gone backward in that area.

111. Christopher Roberts - September 26, 2011

Happy 10th Anniversary today, Star Trek Enterprise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ9nvkv14-U

Currently working on tribute featuring the highlights from the series. Will be up later today, painfully slow video processing permitting.

112. matthias - September 26, 2011

In my opinion two main-reasons stopped Star Trek on TV. 1. since DS9 the optimistic point of view vanished. But Star Trek IS about a “better future”. Every series of Star Trek is entertaining, but it is not always really close to the origins intention. 2. The chief of Paramount changed.

113. Jim Nightshade - September 27, 2011

braga did a prettygood job writing terra nova-they have kinda borrowed the nu trek going backin time equals new/alternate time/universe to get around the butterfly effect–the writing was good empathis on family etc–i thought better written than stargate universe imo-

114. Jim Nightshade - September 27, 2011

Credits on terra nova were funny–spielberg and braga and about 100 others are all listed as executive producers–seemed like more exec producers than cast haha

115. captain_neill - September 27, 2011

111

Excellent tribute to Enterprise

I have a tribute I did recently myself. Love to know your thoughts and of any other fans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qho8iGorS8&feature=channel_video_title

116. captain_neill - September 27, 2011

I am looking forward to Terra Nova, despite losing interest in Flash Forward in the second half I have stayed a fan of Brannon Braga and still hold that he did a lot of great work on Trek.

Braga co wrote First Contact which I still hold as a superior film to the last one.

117. Christopher Roberts - September 27, 2011

115. Hey, that’s great Capt. Neill. :) You’ve gone for nice character moments, whereas I always go for visual effects! I’m shallow like that! Heh-heh. :p

118. Christopher Roberts - September 27, 2011

Just for fun. It’s Movie Night aboard the Enterprise NX-01… and the choice of film is a wee bit metaphysical. But Paramount owned, so in the ship’s database obviously. :)

http://youtu.be/FLUNXd4_udQ

119. Vultan - September 27, 2011

#116

I watched Terra Nova last night. It’s one of the best sci-fi shows I’ve seen in a long time! Oh sure, the pilot had a few rushed, shoddy moments, but it all looks very promising. It had a nice, clean, sort of Star Trek: TNG feel to it, which has been missing from TV in the past few years—now a welcome return!

And Stephen Lang didn’t disappoint—then again, he never does!

120. Michael Schaeffer - September 28, 2011

Did he talk about Flashforward in the interview and what would’ve happened? DID HE??

121. Opcode - September 28, 2011

The only consensus in Trek fandom is that there is no consensus. There doesn’t seem to be two trek fans that happen to like the same things.

Going back on topic, I am actually cautiously excited about TNG-HD, even if only for the effort going into this. If they can put as much effort on every fx shot as they did on the Enterprise-D scene from the trailer, it is going to be a must buy for me.

122. abc - September 29, 2011

DAMN YOU BRANNON BRAGA! DAMN YOU!!!

123. Basement Blogger - October 2, 2011

I just finished seasons three and four of Enterprise on Netflix. . Hail Enterprise. It was bold, exciting and smart. IT WAS STAR TREK.

124. Jonathon Mirza - May 28, 2012

Hi I have an idea for a star trek series, though I would prefer not to say in public.

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