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Pegg & Lindelof Tweet About Star Trek Sequel + Orci Drops Pike Hint? October 2, 2011

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Celebrity,Lindelof,Orci/Kurtzman,ST09 Cast,Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback

Star Trek fans are anxious for things to get started on the Star Trek sequel, but apparently we are not alone. Today Star Trek’s new Scotty Simon Pegg took to Twitter to express his anticipation (using some adult language). Check that out below, plus see Damon Lindelof’s response and the latest cryptic comments from Bob Orci here at TrekMovie.

 

Pegg awaits return to USS Enterprise + Lindelof responds

Star Trek’s new Scotty Simon Pegg seems to be getting anxious about returning to the set of USS Enterprise. On Sunday night Channel 4 in the UK aired the 2009 Star Trek movie and many Brits sent Pegg tweets during the showing. Pegg himself appeared to be watching as he sent out the following on Twitter about half way through the movie:

Back here in the states Star Trek sequel co-writer/producer Damon Lindelof replied to the actor via Twitter.

Orci: steady as she goes + Greenwood hint?

Speaking of online musings from the Star Trek team. Lindelof’s writing and producing cohort Roberto Orci dropped by the TrekMovie.com comments section over the last couple of days. He responded to one commenter asking about progress on the film, promising all is moving forward in the sequel:

And today when another TrekMovie commenter asked if Orci had been listening to the fans who wanted to see more of Bruce Greenwood’s Pike, he gave an affirmative.

Of course Orci could just be saying he was listening, but not actually confirming that Greenwood has made it into the film. For his part, Greenwood has made no secret that he wants to come back and has even proclaimed that Pike is "essential."


Bruce Greenwood in "Star Trek" – is he back for the sequel?

Stay tuned to TrekMovie for more updates on the Star Trek sequel coming soon.

 

Comments

1. "Check the Circuit!" - October 2, 2011

Have to agree with Greenwood. Given Kirk’s age and inexperience, Pike’s influence in his development is essential, IMHO.

2. Kevin A Melbourne Australia - October 2, 2011

Lets have everyone from ST new #1 in (except of course Mr. Nimoy and mr. Bana) have them all back working together.

They’re a great bunch but we’ve only seen them get togther not really work on the ship. I wany to see Scotty in something better the a beer factory but at least in Engineering.

3. Nony - October 2, 2011

Yesss. Please bring Pike back, Powers that Be. Bruce Greenwood adds that special something to everything he’s in. It’s the 23rd century, get Pike some bionic legs or a hovering rocket chair and get him out there.

4. forestforthetrees - October 2, 2011

Bob Orci reads this site? (Hi there!)
And this is good, because I like Bruce Greenwood’s version of Captain Pike

5. Jesustrek - October 2, 2011

Ok thaths good pike return…hey bob and Spock Prime -Leonard Nimoy -returns?…..say Yes PLEASE ;)

Saludos Cabron

6. Jay - October 2, 2011

great acting by Greenwood as Pike.
Would love to see him in future Star Trek movie(s) and serie(s)

7. Tori - October 2, 2011

Pike was great. A Trek movie where every Captain was charismatic enough for their own adventures.

8. njdss4 - October 2, 2011

Kirk needs a mentor for just a little while longer, imo. I don’t think Kirk can go 100% on his own quite yet. Besides, who would turn down advice from Bruce Greenwood?

9. MJ - October 2, 2011

Well done, Keachick!

10. MJ - October 2, 2011

Well done, Keachick

11. Radioactive Spock - October 2, 2011

Much as it breaks my heart to say it, might be great to give Spock Prime a good heroic death so you don’t have to write around his foreknowledge of some events that might be common to both timelines.

12. Enterprise BC - October 2, 2011

Hey Bob, what are the odds of Star Trek leaving space dock in Fall / Winter 2012?

13. Neumann - October 2, 2011

I love that Pike is now “essential” to Trek after all this time. Feels right. I just picture him giving the Enterprise all her assignments and advocating for their craziness to the starched shirts at Starfleet Command.

14. MJ - October 2, 2011

@12. This just in, Bob Orci responds to your question and says: YES

LOL

15. VZX - October 2, 2011

I just love how Orci is chuckling to himself right now, messing with the fans. I’d do the same thing.

BTW: I wish that Pegg was just a little more Scotty than his Scotty.

16. Enterprisingguy - October 2, 2011

14. MJ – October 2, 2011

“@12. This just in, Bob Orci responds to your question and says: YES

LOL”
——————

Good one MJ!

I love how people trip over themselves over these stupid one word messages by Orci.

I’m irritated by them. I guess he thinks that it’s fun to string people along with them rather than give a proper answer.

He doesn’t have to give anything away in his responses. But he can certainly be more clear with them.

I know that some people will say that he’s a busy man and doesn’t have time to give long responses. But if he has the time to even come to this site then he has the time to give a reasonable answer to our questions if he’s going to reply at all. After all….he DOES want to generate interest in the next movie that he’s helping to write doesn’t he??

17. Red Dead Ryan - October 2, 2011

Summer 2013. I think it’s a safe bet now. Can’t wait. Can’t wait at all.

#11.

Nice try, Rick Berman.

And yes to the return of Bruce Greenwood as Admiral Pike. Kirk still needs a mentor. Middle aged fans need a middle aged actor they can relate to as well.

18. MJ - October 2, 2011

@15. Yea, and it doesn’t help that he drops F-bombs publicly in regards to Trek. He’s a good guy and I like him, but his lack of class as compared to James Doohan is evident.

19. Thomas Jensen - October 2, 2011

I’d enjoy the concept of Pike mentoring a even younger Kirk (then the original) who’s in need of advice because he’s in a situation.

At least.

20. AJ - October 2, 2011

We’re picking at nits here, seeing Mr. Orci’s responses re: Pike as “news.”

Remember when the writers wanted to dangle a few TOS staple guest appearances in front of us, with one definitely appearing? I believe the options were: Gary Mitchell, the Talosians and Harry Mudd.

If that discussion is still in force, let’s connect the Talosians to new Pike as one of those ‘new universe’ interpretations of the classic stories. Just as Mr. Orci’s new comic re-interprets “Galileo Seven.” Tragic consequences are in store for the Admiral, with the best of all possible outcomes. This time, it’s Kirk who defies Starfleet regulations for his former Captain/father figure.

But, it has to be part of a much larger story, rather than “The Cage” re-imagined as the root theme.

21. MJ - October 2, 2011

@16 “I guess he thinks that it’s fun to string people along with them rather than give a proper answer.”

Agreed, which is why all we can do is joke about it, because those supposedly clever responses are not giving us much to go by.

22. steve-nyc - October 2, 2011

I never comment here but this needs to be said: PLEASE INCLUDE PIKE! Thank you.

23. ster j - October 2, 2011

11. The only way I see Spock prime in the next film is in a message to his younger self, probably written and read by ZQ’s Spock, “My elder self reports that much progress has been made available. he also sent a list of actions we should take immediately: 1) Shoot the DY-100 sleeper ship “S.S. Botany Bay” on sight; 2) Go to Omicron Ceti III and collect spore lilies to study for their pharmaceutical properties; 3) Clone some humpback whales for Earth’s oceans; … ”

I think you get the idea.

24. Devon - October 2, 2011

Bruce Greenwood returning in the sequel? This pleases me greatly.

25. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - October 2, 2011

Bon Orci. Will Pike be in the new movie.
Check Which one applies
1. Yes.
2. No.

26. rm10019 - October 2, 2011

23 – and don’t forget to send Ensign Dunsel into the warp core reactor room in ST II.

27. Devon - October 2, 2011

#16 – He’s trying to say as much as he can. Of course, he is under NO obligation to respond to ANYTHING here on this site that charges NOTHING to its users, so let’s be a little a more grateful and considerate please.

28. RenderedToast - October 2, 2011

Let me just say, as the opinion of one fan, Pike absolutely IS essential.

I get that your job is to continue the adventures of the newly rebooted Enterprise crew, but lets not kid ourselves. This crew of actors won’t last beyond 4 films at the absolute most. They’re all young, talented individuals, and ironically – specifically as the result of what happened to the original Star Trek actors – they’re under pressure to not be typecast by whoever it is that controls their career path.

Therefore, if this incarnation of Trek has only a few years left, lets make it a real potted history. Pike doesn’t need to be right there on the bridge in every film, but it would be nice to treat the characters we were introduced to in the first film as “the characters” of this variant of the franchise, not just the characters we’re expected to care about based on previous history. This is a whole new universe after all.

29. Devon - October 2, 2011

25 – Bon Orci? As in Jon Bon Orci?

30. Red Dead Ryan - October 2, 2011

#27.

Most of us think that Bob has done a disservice to himself by revealing bits and pieces of info that don’t really mean much, apart from the news recently that location scouting has begun.

Most of the time, when Bob posts something, it gets dissected down to minutae and fans come to differing conclusions none of which Bob intended, nor anticipated. Or Anthony posts articles mentioning dates for big announcements which then are missed and fans start bitching and accusing Bob and J.J Abrams of not caring with paranoid delusions and conspiracy theories.

We all appreciate the fact that Bob takes the time to talk to us, but sometimes that leads to confusion for the fans and backtracking by him.

31. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - October 2, 2011

Oops. My Bad. Let me try that again.
Bob Orci. Will Pike be in the next movie. Check the one that applies.
1. Yes.
2. No.

32. David Tester - October 2, 2011

Glad to have you back Anthony!!! :-)

33. Jordan - October 2, 2011

PIKE IS AWESOME. :)

34. Rusty0918 - October 2, 2011

I do agree, Pike should very much be in the sequel…as the one who looks after the young Kirk. Perhaps as someone who is his “safety net” since of course. Like some have said above, he still needs his mentor.

Hey Mr. Orci, did you ever get my recommendations about that female chief of security that I suggested?

35. @MarkusMcLaughln - October 2, 2011

I already think, Kor and Kirk battle it out at the beginning, Gary Mitchell turns GOD afterwards, round two of action ensues!!! :D

36. Jonboc - October 2, 2011

#30. “Most of us think that Bob has done a disservice to himself by revealing bits and pieces of info that don’t really mean much…”

Really? “most of us…” ? Sorry, but that’s a pretty broad generality that just doesn’t bare scrutiny. Personally, I enjoy Bob’s cryptic responses….and seriously…Does anyone on this site really, truly believe that ANY details of the sequel, are going to be revealed at this stage of the production?? the only reason to get bent out of shape, regarding Bob’s comments, is if you really were expecting him to give a straight answer. And people should know, especially visitors to this site…that this early in the game, you will be told NOTHING that may compromise the integrity of the story that they intend to tell.

37. Redshirtdiva - October 2, 2011

I have to laugh at the enormous ego of those who believe Mr.Orci owes them answers….
Seriously? Did you actually believe what you wrote? No…really….you REALLY wrote that? AND you believe it too?
Uh….
Gtfo of the trek fandom….because come time when the movie is finished and in theaters, you will be polluting up the internet complaining that the movie sucked.
Your already complaining and the movie isn’t even shot yet.

Die please

38. Red Dead Ryan - October 2, 2011

#36.

Look, a lot of people on this site hang onto Bob’s words too much, that’s what I’m saying. And if Bob isn’t going to reveal anything substantial about the production (which by the way, I hope he doesn’t, as it’s too soon) then he shouldn’t reveal anything at all. They haven’t finished the script yet, and there’s still a possibility (though a remote one) that they might have to go through a major rewrite or two because something unforseen came up.

The cryptic responses that Bob posts might be fun for you, but lead to confusion on the part of other fans, while for me is a whole lot of nothing.

If Bob isn’t going to give a specific answer to a question posed by a poster, then I don’t think one should be given at all.

The problem, for the past year, is that the supreme court has been circling dates for when the script will be done with Anthony reporting it but then the dates keep getting pushed back because of all the various projects these guys have going on.

Some of us just want the guys to finish the script and then make the announcement.

39. Daniel craigs my wookie bitch now - October 2, 2011

personally i think Elder spock should atleast be referenced or Acknowledged. Even if Nimoy doesnt want to return they can easily have a communication sent from Elder spock be read or reported.

I also wouldnt mind seeing something with the Borg in the next movie either considering the Narada featured Borg Technology it could easily have attracted the attention of the Borg of the 23rd century.

One thing i definately want to see though is KEENSER NOT RETURN.
He is the JAR JAR BINKS of the new trek universe.

40. Daniel craigs my wookie bitch now - October 2, 2011

oh and while i enjoyed Giachino’s score, I say hire Joel Goldsmith or spend the bucks and bring back James Horner.

41. Red Dead Ryan - October 2, 2011

#37.

Listen, jerk, I know that Bob doesn’t owe us anything. In fact, I think that’s the problem here. I think Bob is well-meaning as a fan, because he doesn’t want to let us down, but as a writer, I don’t think he should be revealing things that are too open to interpretation. I think he feels that he owes us, and sometimes that leads to him revealing too much or promising something (like script completion dates) that result in him or one of his co-writers backtracking.

42. Dee - lvs moon' surface - October 2, 2011

OMG!!!!……….again …………Yup…:-) :-)

43. pock speared - October 2, 2011

pike, well yes.
seeing as how he was the most dynamic character (save robau, yeah) in the film, sure. that pike-as-kennedy thing was pretty much the best tribute to the 60’s spirit of the original series one could imagine. and the ‘vette, of course.

44. Daoud - October 2, 2011

Pike as Kennedy? Been watching “Thirteen Days”? :)

45. Dr. Cheis - October 2, 2011

I’m sure we’ll see Pike in the next movie, but I would expect his role will be smaller than before.

46. MJ - October 2, 2011

Regarding the confusion and mild acrimony over the way Orci handles his sometimes confusing and obviously intended-as-humorous spoon-feeding of bits and pieces of sequel news, I think the issue here is pretty simple. If the Supreme Court hadn’t farted away the sequel planning for the last 1.5 years, then I think a lot of us would laugh along with Orci on this. However, given that it took the Supreme Court so long to get their shit together, and now we are likely going to have to wait until Summer 2013 for the movie…well folks, that naturally reduced the ability of some of us to see humor in Orci’s spoon-feeding of info with his cryptic, confusing and intended-as-funny comments. I am ambivalent myself to his fan outreach approach, but I can certainly understand how it is getting under some of your skins.

47. Buzz Cagney - October 2, 2011

#13 the actor playing Pike proclaimed the character as ‘essential’. In all fairness i would expect him to say that!

48. Chadwick - October 2, 2011

If we get some solid details before the new year and a trailer by spring, ill be happy.

49. Spock - October 2, 2011

We all know he is in the sequel, but, no one has commented on Pegg’s use of foul and unintelligent language. Could you ever see some of the original cast openly using such language?

50. Capt. of the U.S.S. Anduril - October 2, 2011

#49 YES. From ST2009 bloopers: Pine- “Wait, you’re coming with us, right?” Nimoy- “No Jim. My destiny…aw f**k!”

51. Aurore - October 2, 2011

“…Orci Drops Pike Hint?”

Aaaahhhh….

Toto………”Vague and purposely obtuse, as usual!”…

….”Yup” ; Mr. Ballz definitely said it best…

Wouldn’t you say so, Mr. Orci?….I mean… yup?

:)

52. Vultan - October 2, 2011

I was disappointed they didn’t get Bruce Greenwood to play JFK again for X-Men First Class. Instead they got some guy who couldn’t even pronounce “Cuba” correctly.

;)

53. Basement Blogger - October 2, 2011

Okay, I’m going to repeat this again. WELCOME BACK ANTHONY!

It would be great to see Pike in this alternate universe back and without the wheelchair.

And as much as I have criticized Star Trek 2009 for being shallow but still liking it, I look forward to the new film which the Supreme Court has said will go deeper. It will be great just to hear the screemplay is done. It will be great to hear that they are actually filming. Can’t wait for the deep Star Trek that will come in 2013.

54. xTheCanadianx - October 2, 2011

To bob and Damon, cant wait for the next movie. in the meantime though I do have to ask, have you guys been tracking the progress of startrek infinite space??? and will be seeing you guys ingame there???

and on a movie note, can we have more beauty shots of the enterprise in the next movie??? mr abrams even????

55. They call me Stasiu - October 2, 2011

I liked that Pike was in the first movie, to establish that the lineage from Pike to Kirk is still there in the new timeline. But I’m not interested in seeing Pike taking a major role in the second movie. I think Kirk is now ready to stand in a full leadership role.

56. MJ - October 2, 2011

@49 “We all know he is in the sequel, but, no one has commented on Pegg’s use of foul and unintelligent language. Could you ever see some of the original cast openly using such language?”

You must have missed my post @18 where I said:

“Yea, and it doesn’t help that he drops F-bombs publicly in regards to Trek. He’s a good guy and I like him, but his lack of class as compared to James Doohan is evident.”

57. Chasco - October 2, 2011

#18 and #49 – totally agree.
Why does Simon Pegg litter everything he says with the ‘F’ word? Does he swear in front of his child, I wonder? If not, why put it out there for other people’s kids to access?

Jimmy Doohan was in the army for 6 years, so I’m pretty sure he knew how to swear real good. But he never (to my knowledge) did so in public, and appreciated that Star Trek was a “family friendly” show.

Simon – it’s not funny, it’s not clever and it makes you look like an inarticulate yob. Is that really the image you’re looking for?

58. somethoughts - October 2, 2011

Yea Pike is like Yoda, the wise one, the elder

59. Harry Ballz - October 2, 2011

I suspect Simon Pegg might have a few pints in him before he starts tweeting.

Not that it would excuse him for using such boorish language when communicating with the masses.

F*cking wanker!

60. MJ - October 2, 2011

Can you just imagine Harry Ballz on Twitter…now that would be something worth locking away the women and children for! LOL

61. Harry Ballz - October 2, 2011

MJ, I can assure you, I would be the soul of discretion.

And if you don’t believe that, you can go %#@* yourself!!!

62. Odkin - October 3, 2011

Really? People here are sending Orci “suggestions”?

Doesn’t anyone have the common sense to know when their self-indulgence is just being humored?

63. Harry Ballz - October 3, 2011

Odkin, you should know, common sense isn’t so common!

64. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 3, 2011

Did you know that swearing can actually help people cope with pain better? That is according to Mythbusters.

As for locking away the women and children – well, go into any delivery room and it is likely that you will hear an extraordinary range of expletives coming from the labouring woman. The second stage will bring out the “best” every time. Somehow, swearing and screaming through the PAIN does help with coping. I remember thinking (saying?) “Oh crap! I forgot it could get this f*cking, effin’ bad.” The stories I have heard…the story about the woman who had her husband in a headlock is one and the language that came from that normally mild-mannered person was something else again.

I have to wonder, though, what kind of pain Simon Pegg would have been in when he tweeted the F word. From what I could tell from the internet, I did at one point think that using the F word was fairly normal communication for many celebrities/actors living in North America…

65. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 3, 2011

#62 Why is it self-indulgent to make suggestions to writers as to what a member of a PAYING audience might like to see in a movie that is being made? To me, it could be regarded as common sense to make suggestions while the writers and others are still in the phase of working out the story line etc… Maybe Bob Orci is simply humouring people, laughing his arse off at these silly ordinary Star Trek fans who come up with, what some might consider, strange, whacky, stupid, cheesy, daft, boring… ideas.

Perhaps it would be good if we could get a much less cryptic response to what has been written above. Bob Orci?

BTW, I cannot satisfy my self-indulgence for things new for Trek right now in that I can’t get hold of a copy of the latest comic Ongoing #1 September issue. It is likely that I may have to order it online and the cost of it will no doubt be somewhere close to double the US$3.99 that you guys pay. I don’t generally like buying online – I like to see, feel, peruse the product before I buy. I’m old-fashioned that way.

66. VulcanFilmCritic - October 3, 2011

Pike has to come back; he’s the Han Solo of this franchise. I just hope he doesn’t end up encased in Carbonite at the end of ST:XII.

It will be an interesting “family” dynamic though, with the squabbling sibling children, Spock as “child-artisan” and Kirk as “child-clown.”
But where does that leave McCoy? Perhaps Pike as “Daddy” and McCoy as “Mommy.”

As for Mr. Nimoy (Obi-Wan) he’s pretty much done with acting. I suppose there will be some reference to Spock Prime, though. Some communique that he has died (off-camera, of course) which will lend some pathos to Spock’s predicament. A chance one-time meeting with his alternate self, which kind of echos Mr. Obama’s brief and only meeting with his father.

What I don’t want to see is a “Fringe”-like bouncing back and forth between alternate time lines.

67. Christopher Roberts - October 3, 2011

Let’s ask Pike himself.

Are you gonna be in the next film?

*BEEP* *BEEP*

Double yes?!?

Well that’s settled then…

68. Brandt - October 3, 2011

• The Orion Syndicate as the villains

• Larger all-star cast as well as many cameos including by William Shatner

• More planets

• Larger space battles with more starships

• Kirk having better fighting skills

• Kirk having several human love interests played by Hollywood’s most beautiful young actresses

• No cut scenes

• The Star Trek theme music from the Insurrection end credits used at the end

69. Justin Beaver - October 3, 2011

I want a scene in the sequel with Kirk, Spock and Bones sitting around a campfire at Yosemite National Park singing ‘Row, Row, Row Your Boat’!

I hope J.J. Abrams gives Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie cameos in Star Trek 12. Perhaps as a couple who are ambassadors for the United Federation of Planets that adopt extraterrestrial newborn children from different prospective member planets.

70. Aurore - October 3, 2011

“Bon Orci? As in Jon Bon Orci?”

He probably meant *Don* Roberto (Orci) also known as “El Toto.”

71. Lorraine Titmuss - October 3, 2011

I hope they include Lady Gaga in the sequel as a singer with dark connections to the villains. With her futuristic music and style, she would fit right in.
I’d like to see Kirk, Spock and McCoy go undercover to a techno concert of hers on a distant planet which is raided by many henchmen who have a thunderous phaser fight with them.

72. Viking - October 3, 2011

Cameo? You want ‘cameo’? I got two words for ya: Ernest Frickin’ Borgnine. Why? Just because he’s ERNEST FRICKIN’ BORGNINE, THAT’S WHY!!!!!! The one tough guy still alive who deserves a Trek legacy (Lee Marvin and John Cassavetes are dead, after all). Bob! Get his agent on the phone! He deserves better than voice-overs on Spongebob Squarepants! Make ‘em Scotty’s 94-year-old academy mentor. An old school engineer who used to keep ships like the Kelvin moving by banging on the pipes with a big Crescent wrench. Now THERE’S a sub-plot!!!!!!!! And gratis!

Or is the script too far along for a rewrite?

73. SoonerDave - October 3, 2011

@71 Are you serious?

Star Trek needs Lady Gagme about the same way a fish needs a bicycle.

Hopefully I’m just missing some sarcastic humor here.

74. Khan 2.0 - October 3, 2011

Off topic this but i just purchased the adaptation of ST09 and notice Picard and data in Spock Primes mindmeld flashback…

could that be a hint they approached P Stewart and Brent Spiner for blink and you’ll miss it cameos for that scene?

75. Aurore - October 3, 2011

“Oops. My Bad. Let me try that again.Bob Orci…”

PUH–LEASE…
That’s not what you meant.

What are people going to believe?
YOUR honest words or my “creative” nonsense.

Get real, man.

76. andrea - October 3, 2011

i love the first one! i hope in the second one we can be able to see the enterprise crew explore the deep space and his strange new worlds…. just i little bit… Mr Orci, do you think we will see our beloved crew exploring the dark deep space over the neutral zone?

77. Jonboc - October 3, 2011

#40 ” …given that it took the Supreme Court so long to get their shit together, and now we are likely going to have to wait until Summer 2013 for the movie…well folks, that naturally reduced the ability of some of us to see humor in Orci’s spoon-feeding of info with his cryptic, confusing and intended-as-funny comments.”

…the key words in this particular tirade, being “some of us.”…which, after reviewing the 70 some-odd posts, should have read, “very few of us”.

78. Khan 2.0 - October 3, 2011

random stuff i wanna see in Trek 2:
Klingon BOPs..mushroom spacedock being built..ripped shirts/drop kicks/Kirk-Fu..TOS/Goldsmith/Horner music nods..lengthy phaser beams…new TWOK style uniforms/field jackets..vicious Trek III style Klingons..Twilight Zone/Outer Limits/early TOS style eeriness..unexplained wonder/unknown stuff left to the imagination which is far more powerful than any explanation the film maker can give..transporter malfunctions..federation starship vs. federation starship carnage…big name cameos/supporting roles..‘Obsession’ level redshirt deaths – plus a whole chunk of Trek stuff cameoing/referenced/easter egging (but not centre stage) – e.g. Doomsday machine, gorns, cloud killers, corbomite, tholians, wild west, rand, No 1, C Marcus, Matt Decker, Reliant/Excelsior, the borg, PStewart as Picards ancestor, Admiral Archer, G Michell&Talosians, Shaty as grandpa Kirk

oh and KHHHHAAAN!!!!

79. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - October 3, 2011

Harry. You been drinking that Green stuff again.

80. P Technobabble - October 3, 2011

65. Keachick
“…Why is it self-indulgent to make suggestions to writers as to what a member of a PAYING audience might like to see in a movie that is being made? To me, it could be regarded as common sense to make suggestions while the writers and others are still in the phase of working out the story line etc…”

It’s probably not as self-indulgent as Odkin suggested, and I don’t know if being a paying customer gives us license to suggest things to the film-makers. But it is great fun. Bob Orci has got to be the most available writer in Hollywood and getting responses from him shows how much of a Trek fan he is right along with us. And some of our suggestions might even get a “Hmmm.” out of him from time to time. Whether anyone likes the new Trek, or not, this has got to be the coolest time and place to be a Trek fan ever.

81. Janice - October 3, 2011

YES, YES,YES to Pike being in the ST sequel—and MORE of a role than just a cameo!!

I just love all this Pike/ Bruce Greenwood talk!! Keep it going please!

82. Chris Doohan - October 3, 2011

57

Believe me, my dad used the “F” word a lot.

83. Chris Doohan - October 3, 2011

18.

I spent a lot of time with Simon and I think he’s a pretty classy guy.

49.

The answer is “yes”. If we had twitter back in the late 60’s and 70’s, I’m sure some of them would be throwing F-bombs around.

84. Adam Bomb 1701 - October 3, 2011

Chris – I understand that your dad (a great guy, by the way – I met him at a mid-’70s Trek convention in New York City) was elated when he was filming the episode “Day Of The Dove”, and was told to make the phrase “Keep your Vulcan hands off me” sound like “Keep your f..kin’ hands off me.” In fact, if you watch the episode (I’m sure you have, many times) it sure sounds like he is saying “f..kin’.” I don’t know how that one got past the NBC censors.

85. Silvereyes - October 3, 2011

#37 Redshirtdiva

Really, you can’t be more than 14 years old.

86. lostrod - October 3, 2011

#50

#49 YES. From ST2009 bloopers: Pine- “Wait, you’re coming with us, right?” Nimoy- “No Jim. My destiny…aw f**k!”

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Yep, but when they uttered those words they most likely assumed they would never see the light of day. It was an indeliberate slippage. However, Tweeting is a deliberate and very public outlet.

Not being a user of Twitter, I’m not sure if there’s an edit or delete option. So whatever is tweeted cannot be taken back?

If not, another cautionary note about posting on the Internet. Once it’s out there is out there and may linger for awhile. That’s why I hear many folks are trying to cleanup their Facebook pages since recruiters and HR folks are analyzing social networking habits of potential/current employees (and taking action in some cases).

At any rate we are once again straining for every bit of real news about the sequel as possible. I understand the creative folks want to maintain some mystery, but I don’t see how confirming whether or not the Pike character will be in the movie could have any negative impact. Especially this far in advance.

On the contrary, based on the positive posts about Pike on this discussion, they should talk it up more. Most likely, however, it has to do with the contract negotiations with the actor’s agent.

We shall see in good time.

Regards.

87. Michael - October 3, 2011

More Pike? How about more information? This Tantra-like delay of orgasm is most titillating.

88. crazydaystrom - October 3, 2011

85-
She had me with the first line. Then after that first ellipsis we started to drift apart. With the second paragraph…FACEPALM!
Oh well, IDIC.

59-
Harry, you made laugh out loud yet again. Thanks.

89. VZX - October 3, 2011

Chris Doohan: How do you feel about Pegg’s protrayal for Scotty?

For me, out of the entire Trek 09 cast it was Pegg’s Scotty that I just did not like. Your dad’s Scotty was a real fun-loving guy, drank and got into bar brawls and such, but he always came across like he knew what he was doing. Pegg’s Scotty is still fun-loving, but he just doesn’t seem like a real “miracle worker.” IMHO

90. James Bond 007 - October 3, 2011

For an old man (over 40) he sure does have a potty mouth.

91. Jorg Sacul - October 3, 2011

To Mr. Orci.. love your work!

David Tennant for the role of Trelayne.

You’re welcome.

George

92. Chris Doohan - October 3, 2011

88 VZX

I thought he was / is a great Scotty. He was introduced late in the movie, so give him a chance to “giv’er all he’s got” in the next. Now that they’ve established the characters roles in the first movie, I sure they will be able to expand a bit on the personalities in the next.

93. Horatio - October 3, 2011

CHRISTOPHER PIKE MUST DIE!

Oh yeah, I love Greenwood’s Pike. Call it a man crush. IMO he was one of the highlights of the last film.

Pike is Kirk’s Obi-Wan. After – and only after – Pike’s guidance and training and eventual sacrifice of himself will the Kirk man-child fully become the starship captain we know and love.

Go out in a blaze of glory, Mr Pike. I hope the writers and producers make it a more glorious one than was awarded to Kirk in Generations.

At least that’s how i’d do it if I were writing the damned sequel.

94. Janice - October 3, 2011

NO—I don’t want Pike to go out in any blaze of glory. I want him back full force for Star Trek 13 or whatever sequel #2 will be called.

95. T'Cal - October 3, 2011

This is killing me…slowly…

96. Buzz Cagney - October 3, 2011

#59 Harry, that particular epithet. wanker, does always strike me as a very British swear word. Is it in common use that side of the water?
And Simon really has no need to use such language.
And no, I didn’t much like his Scotty. The problem is Simon is always Simon.
Convincing accent not withstanding.

97. Buzz Cagney - October 3, 2011

#49 I suggest you watch the Shatner Roast. They know a word or two!

98. Phil - October 3, 2011

All righty…I’m not a fan of profanity, but if you all have ever seen the TOS blooper reels that cast wasn’t above throwing around a few four letter words. It really should not be that much of a shock to the system…

I liked Greenwoods Pike, but essential? Sorry, but all characters not named Kirk and Spock are supporting cast.

Oh, and Orci didn’t drop any hints, he acknowledged a few comments. They could have been talking about how best to capture monkeys and the response would have been the same…

99. Phil - October 3, 2011

STAR TREK 12 not 2, 2 was the wrath of khan!

100. Aurore - October 3, 2011

“I liked Greenwoods Pike, but essential? Sorry…”

Agreed.
But, of course, that is just my opinion.

M. Orci, will Number One be in the sequel?
(A simple “yup” will do…)

101. Aurore - October 3, 2011

99 : M. Orci= Mr. Orci

102. Viking - October 3, 2011

#82 Chris – I’m picturing your dad changing the spark plugs in the family sedan. LOL

#90 Jorg – now THAT would be one helluva casting move!

103. Canon Schmanon - October 3, 2011

The people who are saying Pike needs to be back because Kirk still needs mentoring aren’t considering that four years might have gone by since the last film. It could start with Kirk already having been well-mentored by Pike.

That’s the way I’d prefer it, anyway. I’d rather see a less inept Kirk who now has his crew’s confidence, rather than see him stumble and bumble through another film. Give us Kirk in his TOS prime. There won’t be many movies with this crew so I think we need an established Enterprise crew on the bridge this time.

That doesn’t mean we can’t have Pike back. Greenwood was fantastic and I’d gladly welcome him back to the film. If he’d been younger, what a great choice he’d have made as Kirk. By all means, please put Pike back in the film.

Personally, I appreciate Simon Pegg’s “F” word sentiment. It’s just a word, I don’t know why we give it such negative power. It’s not a sign of a bad vocabulary, or a coarse upbringing, or anything negative like that. In fact, I’m a proud polysyllabic sesquipedalian and I use the “F” word quite liberally sometimes.

104. Chris Doohan - October 3, 2011

101.

Here you go. Copy and paste

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.105609016130246.11201.100000434457943#!/photo.php?fbid=105609049463576&set=a.105609016130246.11201.100000434457943&type=1&theater

105. TwilightTrek - October 3, 2011

If you keep Pike in as the sort of father figure it’d be going back to the Hornblower template which might be cool.

106. Factchecker - October 3, 2011

Pike is essential.

Beep.

(That’s one beep for YES, Bob.)

107. Viking - October 3, 2011

#103 Chris – Lordy, he was working on a Volvo. I can just hear the carpet of F-bombs being dropped over having to use a set of SAE wrenches on metric bolt heads. Literally LOL !

108. Danpaine - October 3, 2011

#103. Chris, thanks much for sharing those great pics with everyone. Really enjoyed that.

109. Aurore - October 3, 2011

…Ah, you know what ? Let’s be crazy…

…Regarding the eventual presence of Number one in the sequel, Mr. Orci, I’m willing to accept a “Maybe”.

:)

110. Veritas1325 - October 3, 2011

Please, please, please refit the Enterprise to get rid of those ridiculous nacelles. Please. Thanks.

111. Christopher Roberts - October 3, 2011

Another ENT reference would be very welcome. Any evidence that points to Archer’s involvement in the Earth-Romulan War, and the Federation founding, if the Supreme Court ever get around to their universe’s version of “Balance of Terror”.

Mr. Bob Orci – please check out the opening of this tribute video I did for their 10th Anniversary…

http://youtu.be/myS87yTTDes

Simon Pegg will have to stick his fingers in ears, straight after though. ;)

112. Desstruxion - October 3, 2011

I wanna see an Admiral Archer cameo and……………borgified tribbles.

113. Aurore - October 3, 2011

“…Ah, you know what ? Let’s be crazy…”

Sorry. I believe you’re on your own on that one…YUP!

:)

114. Craiger - October 3, 2011

I think I got it, for the sequel they will redo “The Cage.”

115. CmdrR - October 3, 2011

Unless the sequel stars several Kardashians and a Beiber, I will boycott it.

(wow, even as a joke it hurt to type that!)

116. Desstruxion - October 3, 2011

Mirror universe Tribbles? With teeth and belly aches?

117. Horatio - October 3, 2011

@114 = LOL!

118. Harry Ballz - October 3, 2011

87.

You’re welcome, crazydaystrom!

95.

Buzz, I was born in Scotland and my father was from the Isle of Wight, so I guess “wanker” is a word simply known to me here in Canada.

103.

Thanks, Chris! Great photos! Anthony really should do a new thread just on a profile of those intimate shots you shared! Anthony?

119. KeepTheJeepRiding - October 3, 2011

Is there a way to find out if they are going to have open casting calls again? Maybe in NYC too this time (hint hint) That was a fabulous gift to the fans!

I was lucky enough to not only get chosen but I have screen time walking behind Kirk as he rode in on his motorcycle at the ship yard. They even mention me in the fans section pod of the blu ray special features, because I had to fly in 4 times in the process (which was fine with me!) I would love the opportunity to be in the sequel too!

120. Dee - lvs moon' surface - October 3, 2011

#65. Keachick…

Yes I agree, boborci deserves a bit of fun … when he comes here…

boborci “Yup”… Keachick “Rocks”… and Captain Fine “Crocs”… LOL

;-) :-)

121. TwilightTrek - October 3, 2011

The next movie has to have an engineering crew. I mean even in the TV series they took the time to hire extras. In the new movie and even in the new comics it’s like Scott is the only person running all of engineering. Maybe a cool “writers workshop” experience would be for Orci and company to spend a few days on a real U.S. ship like the U.S.S. Enterprise so they can get a taste of reality as to what it takes to run a ship. The next movie needs to add a bit more practical reality as to what it means to be part of a crew on a ship. Plus if Scott has a crew it can show his leadership ability and “man” him up a bit. I liked how James Doohan played Scott better so far because he was more commanding. In the TV series when Scott was put in command of the ship you had a feeling he belonged there and the ship was in good hands. I can’t imagine this new Scotty ever being in command of the ship. He’s a class clown with a knack for engines that’s all. I mean he’d be more likely to crack jokes over the PA system than be able to command a ship against a Klingon attack.

122. Odkin - October 3, 2011

Two good postings gleaned from the above:

-Pike must die (or at least become phsyically vegetative!)

-ERNEST BORGNINE! He’s captained a vessel (McHale’s Navy), helped save a crew (Poseidon Adventure), played a superhero (Mermaidman), he’s 94 frickin’ years old, a GREAT actor, and has BORG in his name! He’s a natural for Star Trek!

123. Buzz Cagney - October 3, 2011

#117 so its not a word that is in general use, Harry?
Its certainly not a word that I hear in the few American shows that I watch.
Even Austin Powers didn’t use it- that I remember!

124. Harry Ballz - October 3, 2011

123.

No, Buzz, it’s never used in general conversation.

‘Course, I grew up watching British cinema, so I’m sure that had an influence on me!

125. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 3, 2011

#80 – I suspect that fans have been making suggestions from the get-go. However, I notice that Bob Orci has gone silent again. Oh dear.

“Wanker” is also a word often used downunder as well. I think it actually originated in England. It has a similar meaning to “jerk” and “jerk off”(?).

My 16 year old son thinks that swearing is normal/OK. He uses the “F” word a lot. After a while, it gets really irritating and not only that, it feels like verbal abuse, because using those kind of words generally comes out of anger, frustration and pain (physical and/or mental). It is the constant use that makes me think that the person is depressed and may need some sort of counseling.

I suspect that Simon Pegg may be venting a certain frustration he has felt over the delays in filming the Star Trek sequel. Still…

Damon Lindelof: “She awaits you with open nacelles”.
Looks like it might be too late to change the shape of those nacelles and who is anyone to deny Scotty(Simon Pegg) the ride of his life? ;)

126. EM - October 3, 2011

Pike = Greenwood = Gravitas

Greenwood is an incredible actor who not only brings leadership in his presence, but he’s pretty good in an action role, too.

127. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 3, 2011

#117 No, I doubt that you will ever hear the word “wanker” used on television or movies. It is a derogatory word referring to someone whom another thinks is the kind of guy who masturbates a lot, is stupid and perhaps (a little) unprincipled. I cannot recall females ever getting called “wankers”.

#120 – “and Captain Fine “Crocs”… LOL”

“Crocs”? We have a term “crock” as in “What a crock” meaning “What rubbish/bs/lies”. I’m not sure what you mean by that expression in reference to Captain Fine (as in Pine).

128. Starfleet's Finest - October 3, 2011

Ok, I gotta say how excited I am for all this. And no, it’s not because I have no life…ok kinda. But, I missed this site the first time around when the NuTrek movie was in full swing in 09 and now that the sequel is finally getting underway…I’m just glad to be around this time when the REAL fun starts again, and I am using the word fun loosely, for now. But, to quote Pegg/Scotty, “I like this site! It’s exciting!”.

I think it is great that Bob Orci is on the site and interacting with the fans, period. You all are right that he doesn’t owe us any answer but I also feel the same way with the other side that it seems like he listens to us (even if he doesn’t at least he ACTS like he does). And on that note, most all of the supreme court has said being on this site is like being a consultant, why not take advantage of that and at least let voice your opinion on what you would like to see (everyone here seems to be able to do that on other topics, why not the movie as well?). What’s the worst that would happen they don’t use your idea just like you thought? Then you’re no worse off, so let people have some fun and just chill.

I would personally love to see Pike in the sequel. Mr. Greenwood did such an amazing job portraying Pike and I could totally see that Kirk would be influenced by him. But I think that he would be more of a secondary character in the sequel. He’s already made his impact on the young Kirk that I would see him more likely to show up to offer guidance after an “oh sh*t” moment instead of a constant ‘teacher’ figure in the movie. Just my two cents…

And my last side note: you guys are really getting after Simon Pegg for dropping the f-bomb? Guys, get off your high horse. Just because he swears doesn’t mean it makes him less of an actor to portray Scotty (@82. Chris Doohan that was hilarious by the way). He’s clearly excited to get things rolling again. At least he didn’t say ‘I never wanna set foot on that f*cking ship again!’ …that, I can understand some harsh feeling…

129. Allenburch - October 3, 2011

36. Jonboc
“I enjoy Bob’s cryptic responses….people should know, especially visitors to this site…that this early in the game, you will be told NOTHING that may compromise the integrity of the story that they intend to tell.”

I agree completely. I am confident that they are fine tuning an epic story deserving of as much guarded secrecy as is possible.

11. Radioactive Spock
“…might be great to give Spock Prime a good heroic death…”

Do not agree with this. The best and more favored exit of these legendary characters is the old fashioned “ride off into the sunset” style.

BOBORCI ??Can you just give us an update on script status??

130. Buzz Cagney - October 3, 2011

#127 thanks but i know what it means. :-D

131. Suellen - October 3, 2011

Chris, met your Dad in small college in Georgia in 1978 or 1979. He was gracious and a class act. He was polite, articulate and entertained an audience that was small. He made us feel as if we were important and respected. I hope the new group of actors take a cue from him.

132. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 3, 2011

The other aspect to giving the Supreme Court suggestions for characterisation and plot etc is that while they may not be able to use them for this movie, as including any or all of a notion might be totally contrived and out of place for the story they have already written. However, they might be able to use them in the third movie. I guess I am hoping that the writers might use my ideas re discovery of Menosian system, Kirk meeting Jasmia… in the third movie, if not this one. At any rate, I like my ideas – somebody has to…;)…oh dear…sigh.

133. boborci - October 3, 2011

though the comics may explore familiar territory, we have no intention of making a remake of anything for the movie.

134. FlyingWok - October 3, 2011

Would love to see more Pike! Pike added a gravitas to the bridge crew that most of the young kids there really couldn’t.

Granted, classic Kirk was less about gravitas than charisma and action, but I think having Pike as an older, more experienced figure rounds out the cast a bit and grounds it.

It’s still a little unbelievable that Kirk is in command at such a young age, so having Pike hovering around would make sense. Though how that fits into the chain of command is an open question.

135. Aurore - October 3, 2011

“though the comics may explore familiar territory, we have no intention of making a remake of anything for the movie.”

Did you hear that too, seymour?

136. Viking - October 3, 2011

#132 Bob – see my post @ #72 RE: Ernest Borgnine. We need to start a petition to make it happen. McHale gotta eat!

137. Harry Ballz - October 3, 2011

132.

Bob, that’s a major admission.

Tell me, could it be that, in the next movie, you are going to have the crew go through an adventure the original individuals did, but with it being a different timeline now, it will be so elaborate and original in flavor and scope, that it would never be categorized as a “remake”?

I await your usual obscure/vague reply.

138. Red Dead Ryan - October 3, 2011

#132.

That’s good to hear Bob! Surprise us!

Also, how many story ideas (if any) did you have to ditch because someone posted something similar online?

139. boborci - October 3, 2011

138. None!

140. Red Dead Ryan - October 3, 2011

#122.

Don’t forget that the last part of his name is “nine’, as in “Deep Space Nine” and Seven of Nine….

141. Red Dead Ryan - October 3, 2011

#139.

Good, good! Carry on!

142. Harry Ballz - October 3, 2011

When it comes to Borgnine’s involvement, how about the German version……..

NEIN!

143. Viking - October 3, 2011

*grumble*……….stifle yerself, Harry……..*grumble*

144. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 3, 2011

#138 – “Also, how many story ideas (if any) did you have to ditch because someone posted something similar online?”

@ Bob – how many story ideas (if any) did you INCORPORATE into the Trek story?

Wait for it…(Ooops, I will no doubt have a long wait – Oh Shit!)…:)

However, Bob Orci has been known to surprise us…

BTW – did I tell you that “we” love you…
Remember now, I do NOT kiss arses – Yuk!

145. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 3, 2011

@ Bob Orci –

OK – start again, for clarity’s sake. The answers are either Yup or Nah.

1. Did you get my message at post #80? Yup or Nah

2. Will Bruce Greenwood be appearing in the next movie as Admiral Christopher Pike? Yup or Nah

3. Will Pike have a *significant* role to play in the next movie? Yup or Nah

4. Will Pike have only a few lines in one or two small scenes in the movie? Yup or Nah

5. Has the beagle been cast yet? Yup or Nah
(It would be a shame to halt a nice tradition begun by Captain Archer before it even takes off. This is an alt. universe…)

I see you have not answered my very simple Yes/No questions posted on the other thread, so I am repeating them here for your (and our) benefit.

All you need to do is repeat/write after me this:
1. Yup
2. Yup
3. Yup
4. Nah
5. Yup
It’s just that simple. How about it? I dare you…
(You know, it really tells very little, in fact, nothing about the overall plot/story, but it will make many of us folk here, especially Janice, very happy).

146. Allenburch - October 3, 2011

138. Red Dead Ryan
“…how many story ideas (if any) did you have to ditch because someone posted something similar online”

Speaking for myself, I would sign any IP agreement just to be acknowledged for an idea or research that is used for Star Trek.

We all have bills to pay but how much fun would it be just to simply see a “Thanks to ____ “ in the credit lines? The smile I would always have from an experience like that would be worth far more than anything monetary.

147. Harry Ballz - October 3, 2011

As to input, I remember some months back, Bob Orci posted here that the Supreme Court SINCERELY found some of our suggestions to be very helpful in writing the sequel. Not so much storyline ideas, but rather our comments on where we would like the flavor of the story to go…….we can all be proud of that!

148. Tom - October 3, 2011

Greenwood as Pike in the sequel is awesome. Shatner as Kirk Prime would be amazing

149. Red Dead Ryan - October 3, 2011

#146.

But the studio would want to avoid any legal troubles and controversy that would inevitably erupt over a fan being acknowledged in the credits for story ideas. Even if an IP agreement is signed, there’s no guarantee that the fan won’t end up suing out of sheer greed.

The studios would want to protect themselves from that.

150. captain_neill - October 3, 2011

92

Simon Pegg was entertaining but he was not Scotty to me. he put in a good performance.

I felt Simon Pegg was just comic relief, not sure I can enviion him in command of the Enterprise like your dad.

I agree that with more screen time he might develop better but Pegg did not capture for me what I loved about the character, as your dad portrayed it.

151. captain_neill - October 3, 2011

I just hope that Bob Orci delivers a stronger script and something that relies less on contrived plot points yet keep the character moments that worked in Star Trek XI.

Maybe go back to what makes good Trek rather than lifting from Star Wars. Yes the Star Wars pace does work for a mainstream movie but lets not forget Star Trek’s heart.

152. cd - October 3, 2011

149 – As if there is an original idea in science fiction, much less Hollywood. >;>}

153. Dee - lvs moon' surface - October 3, 2011

#127. Keachick…

““Crocs”? We have a term “crock” as in “What a crock” meaning “What rubbish/bs/lies”. I’m not sure what you mean by that expression in reference to Captain Fine (as in Pine).”

LOL… No way… TrekMovie.com is excited again… so I guess you have not been to the IMDb… I was referring to a certain “black crocs” on the feet of Captain Fine… my joke didn’t work, sorry… Don’t you know what’s “crocs”?

:-) :-)

154. Harry Ballz - October 3, 2011

So, give the heart of Star Trek a good work pace like Star Wars…….

therefore, the title of the next film will be………………………..

Star Trek: Stress Test

Instead of “KHAN!!”, fans will be yelling, “CARDIO!!”

155. Mike - October 3, 2011

Hey trekmovie.com,

Thanks for editing out my comment. I mean, it didn’t use profanity. I didn’t insult anyone. I guess it’s my fault for having an opinion that you disagree with.

Whatever.

156. Harry Ballz - October 3, 2011

Mike

maybe try again. The filter on this site will erase a post for the most innocent of words.

157. dmduncan - October 3, 2011

133. boborci – October 3, 2011

So…are you saying that you are not going to take an old tune and Singh it in a different key?

158. Seany-Wan - October 3, 2011

@ Bob Orci – As a nod to the first movie, can you name an engineer crew member “Cleary” in the sequel? Not that it is my last name… (or is it?;-)

159. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 3, 2011

133. Excellent news Bob.

160. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 3, 2011

135. Yes Aurore, I did thanks. ;)

161. Vultan - October 3, 2011

#157

Ha! Good one!

162. Captain James T. Freaky - October 3, 2011

@ Bob Orci

Can We get the Catian chick from the Animated series to stroll on the bridge or something. I got a thing for cat chicks. Thanks Bob.

163. Vultan - October 3, 2011

Also, it’s good to hear the new movie won’t be a remake.
Veeeeery good news.

:D

164. Phil - October 3, 2011

@99, Who are you?

165. Phil - October 3, 2011

@133. Atta boy – hopefully no more “suggestions” about remaking “insert name of favorite episode here”…

166. trekker 5 - October 3, 2011

Oh My God!!!!!!! That’s me they got up there!!! :) :) :) Oh My God!!! I can’t believe that!! :) My day is so made!! :) And hi Aurore!! :)

167. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 3, 2011

#153 Yes, I see what you mean about the shoes. We have similar here. I don’t think they are very comfortable and are made of plastic. At least the “crocs” that we get here are. I was not familiar with their name. I tried on a pair once – never done so since.

Even with his disheveled hair, Chris Pine looks such a cutie, so neat and good looking. I love the colour of his hair in that photo. That could easily be Jim Kirk taking a day off.

Bob – does Dee or myself need to post the photo here, so you can see what I mean? Yup or Nup.
(You understand that this is, of course, for the good of the movie. It has nothing whatsoever to do with me wanting to show off “my fine Pine Captain Kirk”).

168. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 3, 2011

#164 Phil, are you talking to yourself? We all wonder who you are as well.

Unless the numbers and names that go beside them are going askew again. What the hell causes that, by the way? Anthony?

#146 – “Speaking for myself, I would sign any IP agreement just to be acknowledged for an idea or research that is used for Star Trek.
We all have bills to pay but how much fun would it be just to simply see a “Thanks to ____ “ in the credit lines? The smile I would always have from an experience like that would be worth far more than anything monetary.”

I totally and wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment. What is an IP agreement? Surely, part of any agreement would disallow suing by either parties?

169. Jesustrek - October 3, 2011

Bob Orci una sugerencia me gustaria ver una referencia sobre la teoria de Alcubierre en el universo trek, ya que precisamente Star Trek lo inspiro a descubrirla “podira ser que Zefram Cochrane se baso en esta teoria para desarrollar su motor Warp” por ejemplo. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJZXDEUOao0

Saludos

170. dmduncan - October 3, 2011

Before all the celebrating begins, please be re-advised that Khan in the sequel does not necessarily mean that any TOS episodes will be remade; so it may still be true BOTH that there will be no remake AND there will still be Khan in the sequel.

Unless Bob wishes to clarify any changes since then, we have this:

211. boborci: Whatever we do, it will be a new story. No matter who is in it

From here:

http://trekmovie.com/2009/11/02/abrams-star-trek-sequel-will-not-be-remake-but-khan-still-a-possibility/

171. TALOS IV - October 3, 2011

NEW DESIGNS ON PROPS. SPECIFICALLY COMMUNICATOR AND TRICORDER. WHO’S WITH ME??

172. Red Dead Ryan - October 3, 2011

#168.

I believe Phil @164 is asking who the other Phil, @99, is. Because it makes sense that another person of the same first name would have the good sense to either use their last name, add a moniker, or go with an entirely different pseudonym that hasn’t been taken.

Two posters going by the name “Phil” could result in a misunderstanding, or the original Phil could be unfairly blamed for an outrageous, and offensive statement made by the new Phil.

Of course, this new Phil might be new to this site, so maybe he didn’t realize this.

173. Dee - lvs moon' surface - October 3, 2011

My suggestion for a love interest for Kirk(if it will happen)… “Evangeline Lilly”… I had suggested it before… but she was pregnant at that time… now she has earned her pretty baby… and is beautiful as always… but she is doing the Hobbit… who knows when they start filming the sequel this is possible… I think it’s not “soon”………..so……… :-) :-)

Evangeline in the premiere of Real Steel:

http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2586235/hugh-jackman-real-steel-universal-city-premiere-10/fullsize/

174. Red Dead Ryan - October 3, 2011

Of course, if some guy is using the name Phil as a sockpuppet, he’d be permabanned immediately from this site by Anthony. Hopefully though, this other Phil is new here and didn’t realize there was another Phil here already.

175. Dee - lvs moon' surface - October 3, 2011

#167. Keachick…

I do not even come close to a crocs for myself… LOL… people who use this type of shoe, say it’s comfortable… and Captain Fine likes his crocs, I think… at least I saw several pics of him and the black crocs…

And… AP wouldn’t allow that photo here… and I doubt that Mr. Bob Orci ask for that… even for the good of the film… +LOL…

:-) :-)

176. Spock - October 3, 2011

83 Chris- Oh, I bet they used quite colorful language at each other on set or whatever, but, what I was speaking of was such a public forum and typed out for the world to see.

177. Daniel craigs my wookie bitch now - October 3, 2011

well now that its been firmly established this will not be a remake of anything how about the site stop calling the new movie Star Trek 2, there allready was a star trek II, and since this isnt a remake it wont be called star trek 2.

178. jas_montreal - October 3, 2011

Good thing Captain Pike is in the sequel. He’s essential to the framework that the first movie setup. He will be Kirks Teacher. Sorta like Yoda is to Luke Skywalker in Empire Strikes Back , lol.

omg… did i just…….

179. Canon Schmanon - October 3, 2011

I’d rather not see a big mentoring relationship between Kirk and Pike. I’d like to see the next film take place at least a few years since the last one. I’d like Kirk to be a more mature, confident commander. I’d like the whole crew to be settled in and be confident in Kirk as well.

I’d love to see Pike again, but I’d rather Kirk not need a Mr. Miyagi (see original Karate Kid) to undermine his authority. Kirk was already getting the crap beat out of him in the first film. He needs a little de-wussification in my opinion. Maybe have just one fight that he wins.

And if Khan were to show up, I pray that Kirk beats him down with something more than a hollow plastic tube ;-)

180. MC1701B - October 3, 2011

158. Yes, they did. And yes, it is (in my case). And yes, there is a connection between those two facts. Though I do wish to hell they’d hired a competent actor to deliver his three lines…

181. Rusty0918 - October 3, 2011

@177 – I wouldn’t be surprised if it will be called “Star Trek 2,” with no additional title and the numeral being an arabic one instead of a roman one.

I think the sequel really needs to focus on Kirk growing up (and not being a cocky devil-may-care person). Pike would be a great mentor.

182. Chasco - October 3, 2011

#104
Thanks Chris, but could you post it somewhere other than Facebook for the benefit of those of us who don’t have an account?
Ta

183. Jim Nightshade - October 3, 2011

Chris Doohan–many(too many) years ago i worked at mcchord afb in tacoma wa for the exchange aafes–evrrybody said that a daughter of scottys worked at the ft kewis exchange and that he moved to the pac nw to be close by–bthis was around st tmp and after–can u confirm this and whereabouts in general did yer dad live-seattle?`those were the good ole days everybody loved trek n scotty in particular–

184. Aurore - October 4, 2011

“Two posters going by the name “Phil” could result in a misunderstanding, or the original Phil could be unfairly blamed for an outrageous, and offensive statement made by the new Phil.”
***
On this thread, who’s to determine who the “real” Phil is?

As far as I’m concerned, for instance, in the past, Phil Prime made comments similar to those I read in 99 (and to some extent in 98, too,as a matter of fact ) :

http://trekmovie.com/2011/07/22/watch-roberto-orci-talks-star-trek-sequel-design-work-hints-at-changes-the-enterprise/

(see post 113 and the reaction of another poster in 141)

185. Aurore - October 4, 2011

comments similar to those=comments similar to the one

186. Aurore - October 4, 2011

166.Olivia.

Very nice to see you, Olivia!

:)

187. Janice - October 4, 2011

#126 EM
Pike= Greenwood= Gravitas

So true. The sequel would benefit from this amazing actor.

188. trekker 5 - October 4, 2011

#186,Aurore,good to see you too!! How’s France? Mr.Orci has been very kind in telling us things,very small bits of info,but still. Now if only JJ would make The Announcement!!

189. Rhett Coatse - October 4, 2011

111. Christopher Roberts – October 3, 2011
Another ENT reference would be very welcome. Any evidence that points to Archer’s involvement in the Earth-Romulan War, and the Federation founding, if the Supreme Court ever get around to their universe’s version of “Balance of Terror”.

I AGREE. And I do indeed like Pike’s character as acted by Bruce Greenwood; let’s get him back for more than just a walk-on if possible.

And BTW….
BOB ORCI: did you guys write that NOT-filmed scene which was written into the novelization of ST11 — when Porthos (“Admiral Archer’s prize beagle”) somehow spontaneously beams onto the transporter pad when no one’s around? I sure would like to see THAT happen…..!

190. Kokolo - October 4, 2011

You can never have too much Bruce Greenwood.

191. Aurore - October 4, 2011

188. Olivia.

From my (selfish) perspective, France is doing great! Thanks!
I hope you are well!

“Now if only JJ would make The Announcement!!”

Indeed.
Although….I must admit that, his saying he would direct the sequel was good enough, for me. That said, The ***ANNOUNCEMENT*** would certainly be icing on the proverbial cake…

:)

On an unrelated note, I wanted to ask ; are you a football fan (in general) or do you support the Vols essentially because they are from where you live?

192. Phil - October 4, 2011

@ 168.
I am 98. I am not 99. Someone has hijacked my good name, i fear…

193. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 4, 2011

The enemy within.

194. Aurore - October 4, 2011

“I am 98. I am not 99. Someone has hijacked my good name, i fear…”

Then, as far as I remember, that hijacking seems to have been going on for a while; l remember seeing such posts more than once, in the past ….As here:

http://trekmovie.com/2011/07/26/lindelof-star-trek-now-full-time-job-for-himself-orci-kurtzman-abrams/

(Post 11).

195. Phil - October 4, 2011

Yeah, there have been a couple other Phil’s that post from time to time. It’s really not that big of a deal – can’t a guy fire up a little mock indignation every now and then?

196. Phil - October 4, 2011

@194…oh, the humanity!! All caps….

197. Aurore - October 4, 2011

“…can’t a guy fire up a little mock indignation every now and then?”

Not without my permission. No.
Do you have any other questions?

:)

198. Aurore - October 4, 2011

196. Phil – October 4, 2011
@194…oh, the humanity!! All caps….

***

….@196, who are you?

:)

199. Harry Ballz - October 4, 2011

197.

All hail Queen Aurore!!

200. boborci - October 4, 2011

169. No es una mala idea.

201. Phil - October 4, 2011

@197
No, my Queen…

@198, Reference 196, Link to post 194. Clear?

202. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 4, 2011

#200 What language is that, may I ask? Just wondering.

Have the numbers gone askew again?

203. Chris Doohan - October 4, 2011

202.

It’s Klingon. “Not a bad idea”

204. Craigman - October 4, 2011

Damon, Bob, Damon & Team
What’s the chance of a life long Star Trek British Fan having some type of part in the new film – would make my day.
Love the work so far guys – looking forward to the film despite the wait (good ol’ Guiness advert “Good Things Come to those who wait”
Craigman

205. Robin Raianiemi - October 4, 2011

Actually, I’m hoping for more Bruce Greenwood, because he’s one seriously sexy man!

206. AJ - October 4, 2011

Interesting article from two months ago actually has Damon Lindelof detailing the condition of the script as of late summer:

http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-features/57650-can-star-trek-2-hit-warp-10

It seems that the half-script +half- treatment which existed at that point was not ‘thrown out’ (!?), but required a thorough re-working, so it, in my opinion, was a lot less further along than we thought during the summer.

207. THX-1138 - October 4, 2011

Total thread derail:

AICN has posted an article on QMX’s new Refit Enterprise replica. You can get it in the TMP version, the Wrath of Khan version (complete with battle damage that glows as if hit by a phaser blast), and the Enterprise A. ALL the lights are screen accurate as is the arboretum, opening shuttle bay with shuttle and work bee, and observation lounge with crew members you can see through the windows. The list price is right around 5 grand and is worth every damn penny.

Captains may come and go. Crews may change. But all will hail the REAL star of Star Trek:

The Enterprise.

208. THX-1138 - October 4, 2011

Oh, and Star Trek should be a TV series. That is all.

209. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 4, 2011

#206 It has been apparent that the script was not quite completed until Damon Lindelof could come on board. I would say that by now, given that they are officially in pre-production phase and JJ Abrams is directing, that what problems or half-finished script have been dealt and it is all go!

#207 It is PEOPLE, not (man-made) objects, who are real. Star Trek is about people, with one of the essential supporting roles being the USS Enterprise.

210. THX-1138 - October 4, 2011

Oi Keachick.

I said real star, not real people. The one constant in the Trekverse should always be the Enterprise. The rest are just characters. I mean unless you are talking about DS9 or Voyager. No Enterprise in those shows. Besides, it could be argued that man-made objects are real, too.

Speaking of which, you know what would make a GREAT TV show? ;>)

211. dmduncan - October 4, 2011

206: “Interesting article from two months ago actually has Damon Lindelof detailing the condition of the script as of late summer…”

“It seems that the half-script +half- treatment which existed at that point was not ‘thrown out’ (!?), but required a thorough re-working,”

***

And now let’s hope we don’t have an alien bursting out of Checkov’s chest.

212. Phil - October 4, 2011

@211. I’m okay with that.

213. THX-1138 - October 4, 2011

Also, I think Pegg wants to get back aboard that ship because he really likes beer.

214. Suellen - October 4, 2011

How long to get pre production done and when is opening date? Come on Paramount you’ve got to have some idea.

215. Dee - lvs moon' surface - October 4, 2011

#202. Keachick…

“#200 What language is that, may I ask? Just wondering.”

What?… If you do not know… let me tell you something … even Captain Fine speaks Spanish very well… but boborci speaks Klingon, of course… LOL

Look here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZWI7SFX1Sg

:-) :-)

216. Viking - October 4, 2011

This thread really needs a universal translator and a tricorder set to detect doppelgangers now……….*sigh*

#213 THX-1138 – “Engineering to Captain Kirk! The engines canna take much more o’ this! The plasma intercoolers are runnin’ outta malt an’ the warp keg’s about to breech…..!!!!”

217. Odkin - October 4, 2011

Can the Chris Pine Fan Club find another venue please? This site is starting to sound like Tiger Beat magazine.

218. Odkin - October 4, 2011

Oh, and PLEASE stop with the MarySue alter-ego job applications for character creations, story credits and acting cameos. Sheesh. It’s never going to happen!

219. trekker 5 - October 4, 2011

#191,Aurore,I like football in general;but the Vols are my team! :) I do love to watch the Gators;I hate them yes. But I love see their coach scream when the flags are thrown in against him!! :) Yeah,I know that’s mean;but I can’t help myself!! :)

220. Dee - lvs moon' surface - October 4, 2011

#217. Odkin…”Can the Chris Pine Fan Club find another venue please?”….

…..Sheesh. It’s never going to happen!………..

:-) :-)

221. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 4, 2011

Tiger Beat, he-he. Now that’s funny. Come on Odkin, quit being such a grouch.

222. Red Dead Ryan - October 4, 2011

Let’s let the ladies have their fantasies. After all, they’re human too.

#217.

You’re bitching is over the top and uncalled for. Go take a walk or do something that allows you to breathe some much needed fresh air. I think you’ve been stuck in your basement too long.

223. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 4, 2011

Hey Red Dead, just been driving from Banff to Vancouver, over to Victoria. You live in a great spot.

224. Red Dead Ryan - October 4, 2011

#223.

Thanks! Hope you have fun here! Who knows, maybe you’ll see a cougar (mountain lion) roaming the area. There’s been a rise of cougar sitings here on Vancouver Island this past summer. Never had the opportunity to see one in person though. A black bear was, unfortunately, shot and killed not to far from where I live a few months back. Bald eagles, whales, dolphins are some of the wildlife you might see if you’re so inclined.

Anyway, are you on vacation? Visiting a friend? Or is it work? Hope you stay awhile! Though now we’re getting into the stormy season, and its windy as I type.

225. Harry Ballz - October 4, 2011

“it’s windy as I type’

Well, then I would encourage you to type slower!

226. Thomas - October 4, 2011

I don’t know if anyone has seen this, and it’s off-topic, but it’s something people here will want to see:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51476

227. dmduncan - October 4, 2011

Tiger Beat magazine. That WAS funny. Has the tone of Melville about it:

“Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people’s hats off–then, I account it high time to get to sea as soon as I can.”

228. Jesustrek - October 4, 2011

@200 Ademas de postular esta teoria Alcubierre esta en el campo de los Agujeros Negros seria un buen asesor cientifico en la siguiente cinta.

@202Español/ Spanish ranks fourth in the world and is spoken by 400 million people, 64% of U.S. public schools teach this language an example of this actor Chris Pine @ 215 thanks for the tip ;)

@203 LOL Chris …..¡ I’m Klingon Kapplaaaaa! :)

229. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 4, 2011

Oh man, had a great time. Did a hike near East Sooke. Amazing! I’m between jobs, (summer-winter) and I’m looking to relocate to the northwest. Might be able to find a more permanent position with my summer gig in Oregon so I’m having a look. Visited Vancouver in ’06 and was impressed so I went back. As for wildlife, I saw no mountain lions. We have them in Colorado also but I haven’t seen any there either. Saw a bald eagle and a whale on the ferry. Maybe next time we can have a beer.

230. Phil - October 4, 2011

@214. About six years. You asked….

231. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 4, 2011

Drizzly November in my soul, huh? If I move up there, I’ll have a drizzly October, November and December to May.

232. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 5, 2011

Testing. My posts are not happening. I am not swearing. I am talking about languages spoken in Los Angeles.

233. Aurore - October 5, 2011

Mr. Orci…

…Donde esta el amor pour le bon docteur? Huh?

Picture this:

Leonard McCoy… “stumbles” …(yes, sir, that kind of stumbling) into an old flame. Let’s make her a brilliant xenobiologist. She could be French.

How about calling her Aurore?

Not that I have any Mary Sues’fantasies to fulfill or anything. And, although I personally believe WE DO NEED MORE WOMEN IN THE SEQUEL, I would not say that I have any particular agenda, here, either. Although, WE DO NEED MORE WOMEN IN THE SEQUEL. Again, however, I have no agenda whatsoever.

I’m just trying to help. Out of the goodness of my heart.

234. Aurore - October 5, 2011

219.Olivia.

“I do love to watch the Gators;I hate them yes. But I love see their coach scream when the flags are thrown in against him!! :) Yeah,I know that’s mean;but I can’t help myself!! :)”

Yeah; I read some “fascinating” stuff on the “Third Saturday in September” !

:))

235. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 5, 2011

Please, Anthony, why aren’t some of my posts showing up here? Is the filter blocking certain words, languages…?

236. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 5, 2011

OK. Post #235 is showing. I wonder – Philippines

237. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 5, 2011

Armenian

238. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 5, 2011

Korean Chinese

239. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 5, 2011

English Spanish

240. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 5, 2011

Hispanic Oakwood Los Angeles Silverlake Chris Pine

241. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 5, 2011

Just testing here, folks, by a process of elimination to find which word is the “offender” in that when I type it, the site deletes my entire post. For reference the word is the alternate word and spelling of Philippine.

242. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 5, 2011

By the way, the languages I have posted are the most popular languages spoken in Los Angeles – in order of popularity are English, Spanish, Korean, Philippine, Armenian and Chinese. Who knew?

Chris Pine lives (or did so until recently) in Silverlake, which is a Los Angeles suburb next to and north east of Hollywood. According to 2005 census, approximately 41% of Silverlake’s population is Hispanic. I guess it is no real surprise that he would have been taught Spanish at school. He does seem to be quite a fluent Spanish speaker, to judge from what little I heard on the video.

(I don’t know the Spanish language. I think I might go find myself a “Learn Spanish” book, given how many people speak the language).

243. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 5, 2011

#210 NO! Only if they are a silicon-based LIFE form, ie the Horta.

244. trekker 5 - October 5, 2011

#233&234,Aurore,I agree!! We do need more women in the sequel!! I think McCoy having a French flame named Aurore would be a great line to follow!! :) And maybe Kirk could meet a gal named Olivia and we could all live happily ever after speeding past the stars!! :) And we here in Tennessee don’t like to talk about the thrid Saturday in September,it happend again for the 7th time in a row,we won’t talk about it again until next year. (Hopefully next year we can rub it in their Gator faces!!) :)

245. Janice - October 5, 2011

#205 Robin–

Hey—Agreed!! Your take on Bruce Greenwood gets my vote!

246. DiscoVery - October 5, 2011

Please cast Chris Doohan again in the new movie!!

Thank you!

247. Dee - lvs moon' surface - October 5, 2011

242. Keachick…

LOL… Captain Fine is saying in that video he studied Spanish for six years when he was in school… just that… :-) :-)

248. Jesustrek - October 5, 2011

the theme of the day is … learn Spanish is good! :)

249. Phil - October 5, 2011

@248. Either that, or get familiar with Google Translate…

250. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 5, 2011

Aurore, if you’re in the next movie, I’ll pay to see it!

251. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 5, 2011

AND, WE DO NEED MORE WOMEN IN STAR TREK!

252. Aurore - October 5, 2011

“Aurore, if you’re in the next movie, I’ll pay to see it!”

Awww, seymour…
You and me both, mi CARIÑO!!!

:))

253. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 5, 2011

248 Jesustrek, are you volunteering to teach us?

254. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 5, 2011

Aurore, you speak Italian?

255. Aurore - October 5, 2011

254. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney – October 5, 2011
Aurore, you speak Italian?
***
If you refer to my post in 252, that was a Spanish word.
(Cariño =Spanish/Carino=Italian).

I studied Italian for at least two years. I can’t speak a word of it,though.
Or, very, very, VERY, little of it . Reading is OK.

256. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 5, 2011

Hijole! Magnifiqie! Opa! Holy…!

257. AJ - October 5, 2011

Можем ли мы вернуться на тему?

258. AJ - October 5, 2011

Actually, unless you know Russian fairly well, you will not realize that the scene where Chekhov ’09 beams Kirk and Sulu from their free-fall toward Vulcan contains what is nearly abject profanity in the language. “Yo mayo!” translates to “F**K ME!” Almost literally.

I’d bet Yelchin snuck that one in from a script direction stating (Curses in Russian)

259. Denise de Arman - October 5, 2011

AJ- You always make me hot when you start speaking Russian.

260. Harry Ballz - October 5, 2011

Denise

da, nyet, uh…..smirnoff.

Damn, I should have studied harder!

261. boborci - October 5, 2011

203 LOL

262. Viking - October 5, 2011

Somebody call a professional cat herder (or an exorcist)- this thread needs serious help!

Anyway, Bob – what’s your latest rough guesstimate on the time frame to get all the principals signed and on board, and when do you think preliminary shooting will begin?

263. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 5, 2011

Aw, Viking, we’re having fun…Aren’t we?

I thought all the principals (lead actors) were already signed and on board. They are just awaiting the WORD. I also thought that filming begins in January 2012, just after the Holidays.

Bob’s stopped answering my questions, I see…:( Oh well, patience (the Keachick tells herself).

264. Charla - October 5, 2011

I love surprises!! Thanks for letting us know Bob that this script is exclusive to the writers thoughts and original material. I am excited to hear this- can’t wait to see what you, Alex and Damon have come up with to take Trek even further~~ I share Pegg’s enthusiasm about getting back on board!

Been off work for almost a month, didn’t even feel like watching TV most of that time, but I am feeling like some Star Trek ’09 now- been too long, but it should hold me over a while!….. :D Later!!

265. Red Dead Ryan - October 5, 2011

#229.

Glad to hear that you had a good time hiking in Sooke. And yeah, next time you’re here, I’d like to take you up on your offer and have a beer.

Also, next time you’re in Victoria, visit Beacon Hill Park. It’s located downtown, by the ocean. It’s our version of Central Park. Spring and summer is a great time to visit there. We have the occasional bald eagle, lots of ducks and cute little ducklings, turtles, peacocks, and great blue herons. Sometimes, when a heron is walking on the ground, you can get within a couple of feet of them. They’re tall, beautiful, and magnificant birds! Saw one snatch a fish right out of the water!

And a long time ago, I’ve seen bald eagles swoop down and grab ducklings and fish out of the water!

Hope you do move to the Pacific Northwest. It’s a beautiful place!

266. Viking - October 5, 2011

#263 Keachick – apologies for the lack of clarity. Multitasking at 1900 hours EST can wear down even a fifty-ish, wrench-slingin’, IT hardware guy like me. I know that The Magnificent Seven are optioned for at least one or two more movies; I was referring to Greenwood and WHOMEVER THE BLAZES IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE ANTAGONIST. If Bob needs a casting assist, I can give him the address of my first wife. She’s a Turk in Istanbul with three post-grad degrees that she earned the old-fashioned way: by sucking the life out of every life form she meets like a salt vampire. The only way I survived was, like Spock, I saw through the smoke and mirrors. Too damn bad I didn’t have McCoy’s phaser at the moment to make the planet a better place to visit.

267. boborci - October 5, 2011

258. Huh. Didnt know that!

268. Aurore - October 6, 2011

“258. Huh. Didnt know that!”

….Sir?…. Mr. Abrams said so in the film commentary…And….Um…you were THERE!!!

Do you mean to tell me that you usually don’t listen when he speaks???!!!

GREAT! I’m sure some people will be comforted in that knowledge!!!

:))

269. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 6, 2011

#258 I didn’t know that either. I have seen the Russian translated. It meant “Oh my God”, “Thank God” or something in that vein.

I am *mortified* to think that our innocent, young Anton/Chekov would know and use such language…Holy shit, what’s the world coming to? ;)

270. Harry Ballz - October 6, 2011

269

F*cked if I know.

271. Aurore - October 6, 2011

“F*cked if I know”

Indeed , Mr. Ballz as you stated in 260, you definitely should have tried to study Russian harder.

:)

272. Harry Ballz - October 6, 2011

Aurore, are you saying intelligence is the ultimate aphrodisiac?

If not, then don’t f*ck with my head!

273. Aurore - October 6, 2011

“Aurore, are you saying intelligence is the ultimate aphrodisiac?”

Huh???…Say what? Aphrodisi…what?

Ask someone with a brain , sir!

274. Harry Ballz - October 6, 2011

So, Aurore, are you saying that when someone gets intimate with you, they’re f*cking stupid?

275. Aurore - October 6, 2011

“So, Aurore, are you saying that when someone gets intimate with you, they’re f*cking stupid?”
***

Now, please, don’t be too hard on yourself, sir, I would not exactly call you phoquing stupid but………Um…………… What was the question again?

:)

276. Aurore - October 6, 2011

267. Roberto Orci.

Of course, the good news is that, you probably NEVER listen when I usually speak.

And, I KNOW many people will be comforted by THAT knowledge…YUP…

:)

277. Hugh Hoyland - October 6, 2011

#258 AJ

I think JJ talked about that in the DVD commentary. He wouldnt say what it was translated, but left me with the impression its was something along those lines lol

278. KK - October 6, 2011

What was missing in Star Trek:

The Star Trek Philosophy

They MUST have that as the backbone of this new script, or risk losing the true fans.

The first Abrams movie was sadly deficient in this respect. And spectacle alone won’t take you where no man has gone before.

279. boborci - October 6, 2011

musta’ slipped my mind — getting old

280. Charla - October 6, 2011

# 277 Yes, it was mentioned in the commentaries- LOL :D

281. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 6, 2011

#279 Bob –

I can hear and see the scene now:

Kirk: Spock, Scotty! It is absolutely crucial, PARAMOUNT. Everything depends on it. We need to….[pause]…. Oh hell, what is it that I am trying to say?

Scotty: Captain?… It will come to you. It comes to all us eventually!

282. Harry Ballz - October 6, 2011

#279 boborci “getting old”

Let’s see……I’m 56, so how do I feel when I hear a 38 year old fellow like Bob Orci say he is “getting old”?

“Old……….worn out. Quick, somebody kill off Spock again so I can feel young!” :>)

283. boborci - October 6, 2011

282. you take better care of yourself than i do

284. Hugh Hoyland - October 6, 2011

Dang, Im 41 and I feel old. But then again I dont take care of myself all that well either.

285. Aurore - October 6, 2011

279. Roberto Orci.

In an interview he gave to this site, Anton Yelchin said it all :

http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/08/exclusive-interview-with-anton-yelchin/

Undoubtedly mindful of the fact that, the exact meaning of “Yo mayo” could have offended some people, he stated that the expression meant “Oh, man!” .

Next time you see him, please, tell him that I don’t think any less of him now that I know exactly what he actually said.

:)

286. Harry Ballz - October 6, 2011

#283.

Bob, if that statement is accurate, you must have some pretty nasty habits!

No wonder I like you so much! :>)

287. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 6, 2011

Bob – You are only 38 years young! Plenty of time yet!

288. Dee - lvs moon' surface - October 6, 2011

#279. boborci…

Oh… Mr. Bob Orci I do not believe you’re getting old and forgotten… rather you are very smart and never answers what we expect…

Mr. Bob Orci looks great here with the young Spock:

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3172108288/nm0649460

…..and do not tell me that was a long time ago…….. just kidding…:-) :-)

289. dmduncan - October 6, 2011

285: Undoubtedly mindful of the fact that, the exact meaning of “Yo mayo” could have offended some people, he stated that the expression meant “Oh, man!” .

Next time you see him, please, tell him that I don’t think any less of him now that I know exactly what he actually said.

***

“Undoubtedly” you say??? “Mindful” you say??? Did it ever occur to you that “yo mayo” were common words coming out of his parents’ bedroom? So one day little Anton asks his mom what she means when she yells that…and she tells him, “Oh, man,” and THAT is what he grows up believing.

So he tells JJ. He tells Bob. Everybody thinks it’s a great idea and that he must know what he’s talking about. And NOW he’s gonna find out. And do you know what he’s gonna say?

290. trekker 5 - October 6, 2011

#283,Oh Bob!! Your not old!! Your just like me;you hear what ya wanta hear and hope somebody else heard the whole thing so if your quized later you can get their notes!! :)

291. Aurore - October 6, 2011

289. dmduncan – October 6, 2011

So he tells JJ. He tells Bob. Everybody thinks it’s a great idea and that he must know what he’s talking about. And NOW he’s gonna find out. And do you know what he’s gonna say?

***

….Let me think about it, for a second…….. “PHOQUE ME!!!!!!” ( Yo mayo) ?

:)

292. Harry Ballz - October 6, 2011

Oh, c’mon…..Anton is fluent in Russian. He knew EXACTLY what he was saying!

Nice.

293. Aurore - October 6, 2011

“Oh, c’mon…..Anton is fluent in Russian. He knew EXACTLY what he was saying!”

Where’s your proof?

Oh, man…

What have I done?

Hopefully, I’ll be forgiven; I did NOT mean to offend.
I got a little carried away. In the future, I’ll have to be more mindful of what I say.

Undoubtedly.

:)

294. Harry Ballz - October 6, 2011

I would agree with your assessment.

295. Aurore - October 7, 2011

“I would agree with your assessment.”

(That’s what I thought…He had no proof.)

Thank you,sir.

:)

296. AJ - October 7, 2011

Yelchin is not fluent in Russian, he is a native Russian. Fluency is acquired. Incidentally, Walter Koenig also grew up in the Russian sphere of influence, and speaks the language as well, as I had the pleasure to find out at a con years ago.

Yelchin’s “F-Me!” is not literal, i.e. ‘please have sex with me,’ but translates more to something akin to ‘Holy Shit!’

Here endeth the lesson.

297. Aurore - October 7, 2011

“Yelchin’s “F-Me!” is not literal, i.e. ‘please have sex with me,’ but translates more to something akin to ‘Holy Shit!’ ”

Yes. Thank you for the lesson. That ‘s how I understood it, too.
Especially after my first lesson in Russian, taken after reading Anton Yelchin’s interview, a few hours ago :

12. AJ – May 8, 2009
I mentioned it in a previous thread, but Anton’s little contribution, which he translates as “Oh, Man.” actually translates more as “Holy F*ck” (Yo Mayo!). Either a joke on JJ, or on us, but I can discuss the etymology ad nauseam.

I thought Anton’s contribution to the film was terrific. He was underused, but far from extraneous.

Also, Walter Koenig speaks native Russian. He had a line in STIII: TSFS: “Ya ne sumashedshii! Nu vot!” (I’m not crazy..take a look!) when he discovered someone had entered Spock’s quarters, and showed Scott on his screen.

Trek lives. Big time.

http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/08/exclusive-interview-with-anton-yelchin/#1806555

298. dmduncan - October 7, 2011

292: “Oh, c’mon…..Anton is fluent in Russian. He knew EXACTLY what he was saying!”

No, no, no, no. I can see it clearly: After that chat with Mom, there’s little Anton watching Saturday morning cartoons, and every time a commercial for a cool new toy comes on…

Yeah, his dad thinks it’s funny, and they’re a little bit embarrassed, so they never tell him.

299. dmduncan - October 7, 2011

Saturday Morning TV: “Optimus Prime, the cool new MEGA-SIZE Transformer toy from HASBRO!!!”

Little Anton (screaming at TV in Russian:): HAVE SEX WITH ME!

300. AJ - October 7, 2011

Russian is quite specific as to the roots of its profanity. It is called “Mat,” and most of it originates with the invasion of the Tatars, and their rule of Russia from the 13th through the 15th centuries. Much of Russian profanity comes from the old Tatar language.

“Yo”, or “ё” in Cyrillic comes from the word “yebat” (ебать), which is the bona fide equivalent of the “F” word as a verb meaning to have sex, and is just as crude in Russian as it is in English.

Adjectives based on this word replace the “e” (pronounced ‘ye’) with ‘ё’ (pronounced ‘yo’). “Mayo” (моё) literally means “my,” as in ‘my book.’ ‘ё моё’ cannot be literally translated, but is implied to mean “F- ME!” as an expression of surprise.

An example of the extended use of the Russian “F” word as an expression of surprise would be: “Ебать мой лысый череп!” which means the same as “Yo Mayo,” but literally translates to “F- me in my bald skull!”

If Yelchin says THAT in the next film, it’ll take in an extra million in Russia, for sure.

301. Aurore - October 7, 2011

“Little Anton (screaming at TV in Russian:): HAVE SEX WITH ME!”

…..And, his vocation was suddenly revealed to him…He knew, from then on, that he would be an actor…

302. Aurore - October 7, 2011

@300. AJ – October 7, 2011

Interesting.

303. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 7, 2011

#296 – My understanding is that Anton Yelchin is fluent in his native language, Russian. He was born in St Petersburg and his parents and he immigrated to the USA when he was six months old. The parents spoke Russian in the home, as they still do. It was the first language Anton heard, as in he heard in the womb. This is what leads to fluency in a language. There is also a reasonable sized Russian community in Los Angeles, again with no doubt many native fluent Russian speakers. Many immigrants connect up with native speakers from their old home while they get adjusted to the different language and culture. It is entirely possible that Anton heard as much Russian spoken as he did English while he was growing up. Anton Yelchin is also more than a little familiar with several other languages as well, according to what was said on the DVD – Special Features.

Anton mentioned in the interview that he did not get into nationalism stuff. I take that to mean that he was not interested in the politics of Russia and all the communism vs socialism vs capitalism vs whatever (groan), and all the general messiness that has described Russian politics for quite some time, even before the Revolution of 1917.

BTW, Koenig means king in German. Actually, I would be less surprised if I learned that Walter Koenig is a fluent German speaker. Perhaps he is genuinely tri-lingual.

Karl Urban also speaks some German, however I do not think he is as fluent as Anton is with Russian. His full name is Karl Heinz Urban…

304. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 7, 2011

It seems that “spiritual profanity” or is it “profane spirituality”? has become much more the norm in modern day English. Curious.

305. Harry Ballz - October 7, 2011

303. “His full name is Karl Heinz Urban”

Hey, I use his ketchup!!!

306. MJ - October 7, 2011

@304. Holy smokes Keachick, by all damnation, you are correct!

307. Red Dead Ryan - October 7, 2011

#303.

“His full name is Karl Heinz Urban…”

Former U.S presidential candidate John Kerry is married to Teresa Heinz Kerry, who is the heir to the Heinz Ketchup empire. Don’t think Karl is related to her though.

Karl Heinz prefers A&W ketchup anyway. ;-)

308. moauvian waoul- aka: seymour hiney - October 7, 2011

Ryan, I spent the day at Beacon Hill Park last Friday and you sir are correct. If everything goes according to plan, I’ll be in Eugene by April. Summer should be a great time to be in Victoria.

309. MJ - October 7, 2011

@303 “BTW, Koenig means king in German. Actually, I would be less surprised if I learned that Walter Koenig is a fluent German speaker. Perhaps he is genuinely tri-lingual.”

Well that would certainly explain his use of a tricorder in TOS.

310. Red Dead Ryan - October 8, 2011

#308.

Glad you had a good time!

311. pony - October 12, 2011

arer they really gonna have gay characters in the sequel, i need to know cause i definitly wont be seeing it if there are. there is no need for that. it is comparative to haveing sex seens in kids movies!

312. Phil - October 15, 2011

@311. Didn’t they tell you? All the characters are gay. Have been for years now.

313. Keachick (rose pinenut) - October 28, 2011

#311 – Yeah, happy people, all of them.

Oh dear. Another person who clearly did not pay attention to the “birds and the bees” lessons. Kissing and/or holding hands is NOT sex, otherwise I would have got banged up soooo many, many times!

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