Viacom CEO: J.J. Abrams’ Star Trek sequel could be released in 2013 November 14, 2011
by Rosario T. Calabria , Filed under: Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback 
A hint has emerged on the release date for the next Star Trek movie. Viacom CEO Philippe Dauman revealed that J.J. Abrams’ sequel to Star Trek could be released in 2013, confirming recent reports that the film would slip out of 2012.
Star Trek 2013?
During Viacom’s quarterly earnings call, CEO Dauman talked about the future of franchises for Paramount Pictures (owned by Viacom), noting:
We’ve got a lot more coming on the franchise front. Mission: Impossible The Ghost Protocol starring Tom Cruise, directed by Brad Bird and produced by J.J. Abrams is coming to theaters in December. We’re also developing ideas for Paranormal Activity 4 and Transformers 4. J.J., in addition to his Mission Impossible duties, is also focused on developing the next installment of our Star Trek franchise for potential release in 2013.
As previously reported, Paramount originally set the Star Trek sequel for release on June 29, 2012, but decided to delay its release earlier this year because they still hadn’t locked everything down, including Abrams’ return as director. Abrams was confirmed as the film’s director this past September.
Pre-production on the Star Trek sequel is currently underway with production expected to begin in 2012, perhaps as early as January. If the film does shift to 2013 time frames would be summer and winter. Here’s a look at some of the other high-profile projects that are currently slated for May-July and November-December [via BOM]:
May-July 2013:
- Iron Man 3 – 5/3
- Pacific Rim – 5/10
- Singularity – 5/17*
- Fast & Furious 6 – 5/24
- Lone Ranger – 5/31
- 1000 A.E. – 6/7
- Man of Steel – 6/14
- Monsters University – 6/21
- R.I.P.D. – 6/28
- Despicable Me 2 – 7/3
- Robopocalypse – 7/3
- Oblivion – 7/19
November-December 2013:
- Thor 2 – 11/15
- The Untitled Pixar Movie About Dinosaurs – 11/27
- The Hobbit: There and Back Again – 12/13
The summer 2013 slate is obviously very crowded, but per an article at Heat Vision | THR Roland Emmerich’s sci-fi film "Singularity" may not meet its 5/17 release date because he wants to spend some more time crafting the script. That project was scheduled to begin production in March 2012. If "Singularity" gets pushed, it could make room for the Star Trek sequel. Another possibility would be the July 4 holiday, or winter 2013, which currently has only a few high-profile projects with dates.
TrekMovie will have more on this as the story develops.
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Congrats on being the last news site (Trek or otherwise) to report this…
I want it now!!! first?
Let the crying begin!
Don’t know what is going on but Tremovie.com has clearly lost its edge.
Despicable Me came out in 2010, didn’t it?
“Roland Emmerich’s sci-fi film ‘Singularity’ may not meet its 5/17 release date because he wants to spend some more time crafting the script.”
LOL! So all this time we’ve been getting the polished versions of his work?
Indeed it did!
Rosario Trekmovie is not being reliable for source Trek news anymore with these weeks off at a time deals.
Ok. I say May 2013. But that is just me. Come on Bob Orci. Get Cracking. Or we will Crack you. Lol.
I feel pretty bad about the current state of Trekmovie.com.
I know how hard it is to keep site content up to date. I have a Sc-Fi site I haven’t updated for over two years because I got pulled backed into active duty and deployed. Now that I’m back I’m focused on restarting a civilian carreer and it’s painful knowing that I’ve pushed my site to the background (for now).
I want to thank Anthony and Rosario (who seems to sense the townsfolks are about with torches and pitchforks and jumps in with SOMETHING) and the other contributors for a great ride.
I have no idea what issues Anthony is having now, but I hope things work out and he gets back n the game. If not, I’ve got Treknews and Trekweb in my bookmarks.
I also want to thank the (mostly) wonderful gang of posters here (yea, even you MJ) who really make up the heart and soul of this site. Even when weeks of no news roll by, the posts keep me coming back.
Regards.
Hey. Give Rosario credit for getting this posted. I do wish Anthony or someone would give us an explanation on why Trekmovie has been down for so long. I do Love this site and have made some good friends with Harry and AJ and CmdR and Charla and others. But please give us something as to weather Trekmovie will be back to normal or what the Status is. Please.
2013 is not really a surprise. But shouldn’t those “Ghostbusters 2″ fingers in the above logo be crossed? As in fingers-crossed this movie gets made sometime this decade….
10. “Even when weeks of no news roll by, the posts keep me coming back.”
Bullseye. Other sites may be ahead on the news. This one leads in the commentary. The reason why can largely be explained by one word: boborci!
LOL 2013? I’m sorry but that is laughable. Took them 5 years to put out a sequel. The third one should come out say 2020.
I know I’m being negative but the way this film was on the backburner is also just as negative.
Ya, the script should be right. Ya, the director was ready. Ya, enter excuse here.
#13 I liked having both. Constant news updates and being able to chat with Trek fans about the updates and with Orci and crew. That is what makes this blog unique than the other Trek sites. Now its getting lame with the constant breaks.
#14 They will have lost all the enthusiasum from the new fans the reboot got and those new fans will wonder what happened to the sequel. Also if we ever get a new Trek TV series until 2021. Imagine the SFX then?
Let’s hope for a summer of 2013 release. After pushing it out from summer of 2012 and then out of winter of 2012, there should be no excuse for the film not being released in summer of 2013. That’s assuming they finish filming by spring of 2012.
And by the way troubled projects like The Hobbit made it in four years. Look at the new James Bond movie. Once the bankruptcy proceedings cleared, it was all go for 007 and the Hobbit. Star Trek 2013 doesn’t face such obstacles..
Geez, the most successful movie in the history of the franchise and no one can get their date books aligned for a sequel for FOUR years. Sadly, the priorities were evident when they opted not to strike while the iron was hot. Heck, I’m not even sure the folks here a trekmovie give much of a rip anymore.
Wasted.
Opportunity.
Rosario, you’ve saved the day again! Thanks, pal! :>)
Jeez, so much negativity and pessimism.
So we’ve been going for a week or so in between articles around here; it’s not the end of the world.
Look on the bright side: In a year and a half, we’ll get the Star Trek sequel.
TWO YEARS, TOPS! ha! :-P
I will be back after Star Trek Something Something is in the cinema.
#17
“Star Trek 2013 doesn’t face such obstacles.”
Except for the script, of course.
In the immortal words of Krusty the Klown: What the hell happened??
D’oh!
P.S. — It’s cute, the childlike naivete with which the title of the article makes no presumptions about the words of the Viacom CEO, AS IF we haven’t all known perfectly well for the past year that the Star Trek sequel will absolutely, positively be coming out in 2013, at the EARLIEST.
Maybe Paramount is going through a reorganization again and that is messing everything up?
Ok,didn’t we knida think this was gonna happen? I knew the fact that 2012 is very soon coming and so was Trek12 was too good to be true! I’ll be ok I guess;waiting some more. There shold be updates and news and things to keep me at bay;or I could talk to Bob about JFK. :)
Hey, everyone. Anthony is doing fine. He’s actually working on a new article for the Star Trek sequel which will contain a few exclusives for you all. :)
Look for it soon.
Thanks Rosario and Anthony!
Wow, at this rate Captain Kirk and crew will all be in their mid-forties and turning grey by the time we have the next film. And at the rate that Kirk was promoted in the first film, he’ll hold the rank of God in the second film…
Thanks for the update Rosario .
Glad to here that Anthony is okay.
We all realize this completely rules out a third movie right? The 3rd movie option in the actors contracts will be expiring before a 3rd movie can be made, and the studio isn’t going to renegotiate high fees for a 3rd film they should have had in the bag.
Glad everyone at Trekmovie is doing well!
Thank you so much for continuing to run the best Trek site on the web.
We all understand that everyone needs a break once in while, especially when the news seems to have slowed down so much lately.
Old news, but thanks anyway…. I was kinda tired of looking at Science Saturday from two Saturday’s ago…. It’s clear Trek is on the back burner for all involved, except we the fans. With new announcements every other week about new projects being taken on by Abrams, Orci, and Kurtzman and their production companies, each with their own pressing deadlines, Trek seems to have been relagated to a “hobby”. Let’s just say I’m not very optimistic in the result, or if anyone will even care when it eventually gets done. Shame on all involved!!!!!
Agreed. How did this happen??
If they are going with old TOS villians will Trek fans really care about a new take on old villians? Been their done that?
Meanwhile, startrek.com updated the TNG Blu-ray trailer with more HD footage from the episodes on the sampler disc.
http://www.startrek.com/article/the-next-generation-blu-rays-launch-in-2012
#28-
Let me guess on those “exclusives”
-Star Trek sequel script work is continuing, “should” be completed by March 2012, or summer 2012 at the latest. Pre-production was done a year ago.
-Production “should” begin in Fall or Winter of 2012, after JJ, Bob, and Alex clear their schedules. Planning for a Christmas 2013 release date (tentative).
Discussion has not gone as far as a possible third film, but as early as 2018 a fresh, younger group of actors may be involved in a reboot…..
Whiners don’t want to post in a vacuum. Whiners crave attention. They want to post where someone might actually read their very important opinions. Trekweb and Treknews have no chance, even if this site posts only one article per month.
#39 What’s the point in having a site if they only post one news article per month? It’s like they don’t care about it anymore.
See! Just what I wrote on two other threads. The first post is sarcasm, to Rosario posting the latest information to hand about the sequel and so it goes on. There’s gratitude for you, NOT!!! So what if this latest info did not come here first – it came and it is relevant.
I don’t think anyone should be that surprised – disappointed, YES – but not really surprised, as a number of posters have been predicting here that the sequel won’t get released until 2013, for various reasons.
Frankly, I don’t understand why some people keep comparing Star Trek with the Hobbit. The Hobbit is a book. It is part of a series of books written some time ago by author JRR Tolkien. The story is already known. Peter Jackson, Fran Walshe and Phillipa Boyen are NOT writing an ORIGINAL screenplay (I assume these three are doing the screenwriting for the Hobbit as well); LOTR and the Hobbit are screenplay adaptations. There are even separate categories within the Academy Awards and BAFTA – one for original screenplay; the other screenplay adaptation. Different disciplines.
I tend to think that writing a screenplay for a story where the beginning, middle and ending is already known would have the effect of speeding the entire production process up or take about the same time, depending on the material.
Thank you for the update on Anthony. I look forward to his article.
#39-
My beef is not really with this site, even if they do post 2 week old information as “news”
My beef is with the INEXCUSALBE foot-dragging and questionable priorities of all involved in the (non) production of a sequel.
And this is a perfect place to post my whining. And I will continue to whine until I don’t care anymore. (OK, that will be never…)
Are we sure it’s not a typo for 2031?
Just saw the abrams movie again. That film does not get any better with time. That apple store look was not the way to go.
What No. 1 said.
@34 agree with you 100%. @43 I laughed out loud at your post
Star Trek..? What is that again? Oh right…That movie that was released a long time in a galaxy far far away…Or it might as well have. All the hype they got from the 2009 one has died now, time to start from scratch again…
Let’s start over and re-imagine Budineering to look like a real Starfleet engine room!! HAHAHA!!!
Visiting here feels not so much like waiting for Star Trek as Waiting for Godot.
46 – Thanks. Or maybe 2130?
At this rate, JJ will be doing his alternate version of Undiscovered Country for the next installment. Scotty will have bought a boat!
Oh Frak! We’re not going to make it to 2013…Dec. 21st 2012 is that Mayan Apocalypse thing.. No more Star Trek for us. LoL!
Yeah, like anyone has actually seen a “real Starfleet engine room”. LOL
Please – if you are going to whine, go whine by yourself, to yourself… It’s bad enough that I have bad tempered whiny teenage boys to cope with. Honestly, I do not need more of it if and when I come here.
28. Thank you Rosario, great news.
If we have to wait 5 years for one sequel how long will it take if we have to wait on jj abrams to do the third. 2023?
Rosario, thanks for the efforts and civility. It can’t be very rewarding doling out the occasional bucket of fish to a pod of half-starved orcas.
#47- Exactly. The last movie had great hype behind it and used that to sell effectively. They could have used that to take on a lot of big box office movies but instead they’ve dragged their heals and are going to have a hard time getting people (especially non-trekkies) hyped up again. Its sad that, after being given control of a franchise that’s dear to a lot of people, they decided to just toss it aside as an afterthought. With the amount of time they’ve had they could have scripted an entire series of new Trek movies. Sad to see this site as dead as it is, but maybe Anthony’s as fed up with them as we are.
2013….after armageddon 2012 dec….sadly with west coast falling into sea most of us will miss it…it might also never even get finished due to end of the world sigh…judgment day….
This news was reported nearly a week ago on other web sites???
Robopocalypse, if as good as the book, is going to be epic!
I like how they put “could be released” in 2013. Wow. Talk about dropping the ball guys. I say its time to pass it to another team.
Thanks Anthony for a great site and all of your hard work.
I would love to think Trek will hit cinema’s late 2012. I’m chomping at the bit.
The last Abrams Trek was on TV the other night and so many people talking about what a great movie it was over the following few days.
Purely for selfish reasons i’m hoping that Quinto, Pine and Urban don’t become mega mega movie stars so that Star Trek movies can be a solid source of work for them for the next 30 or so years.
…And Rosario, thank you too.
Hey @boborci, maybe you could talk to the powers that be to drop another Alternate Reality Game like they did for the launch to help tide us over until real news starts dropping? That was major league fun and I truely enjoyed hanging with the other trekmovie’ers while we cracked the puzzle.
Please, Pretty Please :)
For those who think the news of the hire of an Hispanic actors sounds like Kahn… I think it’s far more likely to be a clone for a military of clones. Remember, JJA Trek is a Star Wars fan film.
Maybe a reason for the slowness of releasing this information is that the Trekmovie staff wanted to check out its validity first. I recall Anthony Pascale a few months telling us here that he and his team do their best to bring current and ACCURATE news, even if it does come a little later.
This was the case when news of Chris Pine saying that he had seen the script and that Kirk had a love interest through his Facebook page. I alerted Anthony to the fact that as far as I knew Chris Pine did NOT do social network – ie no Facebook and no Twitter. Anthony checked it out and confirmed with Pine’s publicity agent that what I had believed was in fact still correct. The quote from the so-called Chris Pine Facebook was pure fabrication.
I believe, trust that the staff are just as vigilant now.
… we need a new STAR TREK TV show NOW! Launching it in 2012 would be perfect. Otherwise the general public will not even care about Star Trek anymore when the next movie arrives. My wife and I are also loosing intrest in ST again…
Who says the general public will not care about the next Star Trek when it comes out? Did the general public care about the first film? No, they didn’t, but with the right publicity, a lot went to see the movie anyway. I think the same will happen again next time round, except that there is a good chance that a good many will remember the first and hopefully will be happy to catch up on what Kirk, Spock and the gang are doing four years later. This is a good reason to make each movie a separate story with no cliffhangers, to be continued stuff, at the end.
Robopocalypse?
The Terminator meets I, Robot more like!
@ 28
Thanks for the articles, Rosario. Good to hear that Anthony P is okay.
Everyone here was in denial…Such a sad, sad, sight.
I *always* said there would be no Star Trek sequel before 2013.
It feels so good to be right.
:)
And how will you feel if it comes out late November 2012?
However long it takes to put out a worthy sequel is fine with me. Plus, some of the movies slated for release next year and 2013 look pretty darn badass, so I’ll still get to spend a lot of $$ at the theater while waiting for Trek.
“And how will you feel if it comes out late November 2012?”
I’ll say that someone usurped my identity to type the nonsense you read in the post above yours.
Of course! What kind of question is that, anyway?!
star trek will be scarred by his parallel universe sequel bs, and his career will see the decline he deserves in 2013…
nobody cares about this project anymore
I’m perfectly comfortable with either Summer or Winter 2013, Summer would probably be ideal obviously as it’s the biggest Movie season of the year and it will be here sooner. So we’re looking at a four to four and half year gap between films which is perfectly reasonable when looking at other film franchises. In fact I think some franchises have suffered by not leaving a big enough gap between films. All I care about it that we have the best possible Star Trek movie we can and I am confident we will :-)
I would also like to thank Anthony for putting on Trekmovie.com for all of these years. I still look back fondly at following the development of Star Trek from it’s announcement in 2006 to it’s release in 2009 and beyond. I quite often look back at some of the articles from time to time to relive those memries.
To those that are being critical of the sight well i don’t think there is any place for that. We are all Star Trek fans and I don’t believe some of the comments made are within the spirit of Star Trek. Anthony has put this site together for all of these years and we should all be grateful. I look forward to following all of the latest news regarding the new movie.
Thanks again Anthony!!
As my mom used to say about dinner: “It’ll be ready when it’s ready!”
Although I, too, am a bit angry at such a delay, I’m going to try and put a positive spin on this.
I acknowledge that the team have also been contracted to work on other projects after Star Trek, 2009. Okay. Fine.
A 2013 release might be good to avoid Trek getting tiresome too quickly.
It also means that the script would have enough time to be polished and perfect.
So, all of this waiting puts the pressure on Orci and the team to deliver a fantastic sequel. After all this time, there should be no reason for a mediocre film. None at all.
So, Bob, I am expecting this film to blow me away.
You’d better deliver.
Well IMO I thought three years was to long a wait, UNLESS they got something in there to fill the void in the mean time, like a TAS type show, something anything.
The comics are cool, but wont reach a wide audience so they really do need something like TRON: TAS on TV if its going to be such a long time in between movies.
Really, no fooling, Bob get an animated show up and running. I know your not busy at the moment and dont have to many projects running at this time…right? ;]
I am new to this thread/ site, but was re empassioned when watching st 2009 on netflix. ( it gives me goose bumps) i have beena trek fan since i was 8… Im 30! im just pumped to see they are actually making a sequel with jj. The cast is fantastic… I want no replacements whatsoever! Im wondering if they should have some meet up with a young jean luke.. Again tie in.. I would die screeming in the theater,,, anyone have idea on plot.? We know its not borge, time travell..
Nothing like striking while the iron is hot.
@78….
I read on another Trek site that Chris Pine is re-negotiating his contract to return as Kirk. While this may or may not be a factor in why studio has YET to announce a firm release date it is also very telling how this cast may soon be too unaffordable to continue using. The major actors are becoming big stars and much in demand. The studio may find themselves in the position of needing to recast with new actors if the movies don’t perform well enough to warrant it.
At this point they should just wait until 2023 so the current actors can play the characters during the TMP era.
Hmmmmm…well, that kinda sucks. But any news is good news I suppose…
@75. P Technobabble
Wise words…wise words…
Thanks for the update Rosario! Looking forward to the work in progress!!
Summer 2013 sounds OK to me.
I don’t mind the wait as long as Pike is there.
#78 Oristar
Welcome to the site. The guys are mum about the plot to the sequel so far (I’m hoping they tell us who the villian is soon though! lol).
But a while back there was a supposed “leak” about who the villain was going to be. I think they were:
The Talosians, Harry Mudd, Trelane, Gary Mitchel or the Horta. But its just a rumor so take it as such. :]
OK, this has GOT to be the reason trekmovie has gone into dark ops. The movie is actually being filmed right now, JJ has bribed Anthony to not print a thing about it and this new Trek film will go down as the most secretive film project in Hollywierd history.
OK, its delusional, I know.
@84 Hugh Hoyland….
I’m more than happy to be left in the dark regarding the major plot points until I see the movie. I rather enjoyed the cloak and dagger atmosphere surrounding the filming of the last film. It added to the fun as well as building anticipation.
I just want to hear from TPTB that the script is truly done and for a firm release date to be announced. . The last we heard the script wasn’t finished and that there wasn’t even a title. Just a little non-spoiler info would go a long way in appeasing the fans whom are becoming frustrated with the apparent lack of progress. If they do that we can then move forward with the fun of watching the new film come together.
#73,Aurore,and I’ll back you up on it too! :)
@64…let’s get an alternate reality game going…
I thought the same thing, then I realized this current team is struggling to get an actual sequel movie script done, let alone put together something as intriguing as the AR game from the first movie (assuming they had any involvement in it).
As far as “being OK” with Trek 2013, 2014, or whenever they bother to get it done, do we have much choice? *Obviously* it will come out when they’re darned good and ready to put it out, and not one second earlier. Doesn’t change my opinion that Viacom/Paramount have blown a great opportunity to leverage newfound Trek momentum, and the schedule change shows that Trek was not an ongoing priority in spite of the ’09 success, but all of that opinion matters not at all.
We’ll get it when we get it, if we get it at all. Just have to wait until then, whenever “then” is.
Olivia!
How are you, my dear?
:))
#86 Enterprisingguy
Well I could see the need to keep it under wraps with Star Trek 09. They were tinkering with a lot of sacred cows with that one.
But we know the new crew now and by and large have accepted them. So I dont really think its as big a deal to keep everything tight liped as it was for the first time around, IMO of course.
But like you I can hang in there until the film is done.
For all the gamers out there, I would guess that this time next year, the PS3 Trek game based on JJ Trek will be released, so that might hold us over for a bit.
I’m not that surprised that Summer 2013 happened, since it sounded like a rush to get it done for for Summer 2012, and putting a film like this in Winter 2012 doesn’t give it the same ‘tent-pole’ status that they have been ascribing to Trek since ’09.
I bet they’ll scrap the whole thing.
We will not get any solid info until they start filming, so I doubt we will hear anything concrete until March, which will hopefully be two months into filming.
Hey Bob Orci, I am a fan of Sam Worthington from Avatar and Salvation, would you consider casting him as a crew member for the third movie, or would it be too cliche, he has been fairly typecast, (the person who changes and becomes the hero.) You did cast Chris Hemsworth as papa Kirk and now he is the god of thunder. I just think Sam is a great actor and think is deserving of great role and not the same thing over and over.
Oh, it could also be 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017….
Script, please?
Bob Orci– I gotta’ thank you and Alex for giving my wife and I two of the finest, must-watched dramas in recent years: Fringe & Hawaii 5-0. Love ‘em, Bob.
However…
You guys are killing us here *L*. 2013? 2013! Kirk and Crew have almost completed their original 5 year mission! Ok, friendly ribbing aside, Bob, I won’t sit here complaining because I don’t understand the complexities of producing/filming a multi-million dollar budgeted project for a major studio (…it’s above my pay-grade); whatever delays have plagued Star Trek 2 can be chalked up to Hollywood business. No criticism here. I just ask this: after Star Trek 2, if you talented gentlemen could please work out the kinks that delayed the last one and give us another film (…if possible) by two years. That should be just in time for when Doc and Marty pay us a visit. :)
Thanks again.
okay, summer 2012 is a little bit too less time to produce the movie until it needed … let me guess… one year? to write the screenplay. but december 2012 should be just nice to the audience. later would be a slap in the face of all the people who are interested to see it.
again i want to remind, how fast they were with “sherlock holmes 2″. yes, it IS possible to act fast AND good, boys!
I’m really really having a hard time buying how keeping new Trek off TV is a good idea given the constant delays in the film series.
At this point, I can’t say that I’m really looking forward to more films at all.
@80 Enterprisingguy : “I read on another Trek site that Chris Pine is re-negotiating his contract to return as Kirk.”
Careful, Chris. Jeffrey Hunter wanted to re-negotiate his contract when they announced a second Star Trek pilot, and we know how THAT worked out for him.
Leonard Nimoy wanted to re-negotiate his contract after the first year, and almost got replaced by Larry Montaine. Fortunately for us, he accepted less money than his agent was asking for.
Kirstie Alley’s agent wanted more money to do Star Trek III, and where is she now?
Only a matter of time before my self-control is going to fail me miserably as all those Spoiler Alerts prove to be so much honey to a bee!
^ really….
#98 standing by an open fridge i should imagine.
@102 I’d like to laugh, but that’s where I’ve been several times this morning.
(For Second Breakfast and Elevenses.)
Alley did a little show called Cheers and guest starred on King of Queens and had her own reality show.
Wait until 2014 for release, by then the crew would have completed their 1st 5yr mission.
1. The Enterprise will in refit mode, important to some
2. David would be an infant or some other bastard child would be running around
3 Spock & Uhura married, divorced and a restraining order against Spock
4. Spock prime decides SF needs a kick in the ass and decides to rule the Alpha Quadrant.
5. Seth Macfarlane, pronounce King for bringing Trek back to the small screen.
No wait until 2151 that is when the NX-01 launched.
Man, can’t people give this site a break? It’s been a great site for years, and just because they might not post a Trek-related blurb first, so what? Can’t the complainers realize their frustration is a product of this hyper-ADD society that’s being created? Just slow down, accept what’s good in life, and start being part of the solution, not the problem.
Roland Emmerich has made a movie with a script in the last 10 years? Who knew!!
@97. Romanes Eunt Domus. I feel the same.
Honestly I don’t think a 4 year wait is necessary to put out a good movie, nor do I think putting out another Star Trek movie in two years is going to make people say “Star Trek again, so soon” or whatever Damon said. This movie could have been done for 2012 but there were other projects the ‘high court’ was working on and that is the bottom line. You don’t need a 4 year wait to develop a good (scratch that) great movie. Example: Iron man ’2008′ awesome, Iron Man 2 ’2010′ better than the first, two fracking years.
Bottom line, I hate all this “could be” “might be” shit. This project is to be kept under wraps, fine, then don’t say anything at all. I would rather be given some solid info or nothing at all rather than Viacom CEO giving me ‘could be’s’.
The mystery surrounding the development of the first movie was fun, it was a tease. This just seems to be nonsense. Nothing concrete, dates being pushed back, not getting full attention.
I am frustrated and annoyed that the movie is pushed back and could be even more so and that a TV series is being held back. Its aggravating and infuriating. I guess we are lucky that Star Trek is still alive, period.
Just like with the Bond films, they will keep going, but MGM’s financial woes were frustrating because it kept the new movie on hold but SkyFall is on the way with shooting already started. Even after MGM’s financial troubles SkyFall is rolling, more than can be said for Sky Trek, I mean Star Trek.
……The movie better be worth it.
#98
Kirstie Alley just disappeared after TWOK? Wow, who knew…
I must’ve just imagined that Emmy-winning role she had on Cheers.
#109
Uh, I agree with you for the most part, but you might want to use a better example than the Iron Man movies. While I liked the second movie, it’s generally considered to be the weaker of the two.
Script’s been done for a while — just didn’t want to make a big deal out of it.
We are onto our 3rd draft now!
“Script’s been done for a while — just didn’t want to make a big deal out of it.
We are onto our 3rd draft now!”
I KNEW IT!!!!!
Yes, I did. I DID!!!
:))
Bob, don’t let the whiners bother you. They would complain that Marilyn Monroe’s bra was too hard to unsnap!
111 @ Vultan. I know, I know, but where is she now? I guess I spend too much time with my head in the pages of the National Enquirer.
@ 113. Mr. Orci. I’m not in the industry, so I’m not sure what this means. How many drafts does a film script typically go through before it’s considered ready to shoot? Does the number of drafts really matter? Does this say something about the quality of the script? Or not.
Sure you’re beyond the first draft stage, but I’m a little confused about what happens next. Please enlighten us. Thank you.
#116
Dancing with the Stars. I’ve never watched it, but she lost a lot of weight (from what I hear).
#113
Isn’t that a little contradictory, Bob? If the script is finished… shouldn’t there be a final draft ready to shoot?
We support you Bob
Great to hear Bob .
One less thing to worry about .
Bob Orci – Of course the script is done. I knew that as soon as I saw that official pre-production had started. The team must have something “signed and sealed in concrete” (as it were) in order to know what to build, make, sew, whatever…No doubt, there will be a few tweaks here and there, once actual filming commences.
Thank you for giving confirmation.
I have a feeling that Chris Pine (re)negotiating his contract with Paramount is old news and that all that has been settled. A few months back I believe that Paramount did some re-negotiations with all the main cast, in order to keep them on board for the sequel, as some of their contracts had just about expired, due to the delay in making this film. Anyway, I hope that Chris is sensible and that Paramount is also sensible.
This does prompt me to ask:
How many millions of dollars does any person need to feed, clothe and shelter themselves, especially when they do not have dependents? Millions, many with dependents, manage somehow on almost next to nothing in a lot of cases. Time for some of these Hollywood actors/celebrities, producers, directors, CEOs, etc to take a hard look at what their true worth really is. A guy who cleans up the streets full of garbage and other undesirable materials may be worth more, in that it is quite likely that he will be preventing an outbreak of a contagious and serious disease.
I am not getting at you directly, Bob or any other individual in particular.
Just the system that people get caught up in and feel that others will not value their talents and skills if they don’t ask/demand phenomenal and, what could be seen as, obscene amounts of money.
Oh and another thing, various people wanted the movie under two and a half hours fine, but there is no reason the second movie cant be a wonderful two and a half hour adventure. If its an epic enough film I want the editors bound and gagged.
Who ever deemed the Rura Penthe scene not important has NO BUSINESS editing a Star Trek movie. It would have explained so much to the layman and that accounts for 50% of who the movie was targeted at. Otherwise we just assume that Nero was traversing space for 20 years or so? Seems like the mistake of some co-op student, not a professional motion picture editor.
Lets get some proper editors in for the next movie (with my hands together) please.
Iron Man 2 was horrible.
Bob – I took you to mean that you are working on the draft for the third Star Trek movie. Am I correct?
NO. WANT NOW.
Sorry, but its about time I let my immature childish impatientience out. Seriously, dont rush, but c’mon guys!! At least get it started!
Hi boborci. Here’s a line I want Kirk to say in your movie…
Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
117. A movie is written 3 times, it is said:
Once as you generate the script, once as you shoot it, and once in editing.
What I mean by finished is that everyone knows what the movie is now. But locations, etc, necessitate changes as we get closer to shooting.
#126
Ah, okay. Thanks for clarifying.
It was not relevant what Nero and his co-workers were doing in those 25 years. It only mattered that he turned up when he did, when prime Spock appeared, in order to get hold of Spock, the Jellyfish and the all-important red matter. Knowing what happened to Nero in those intervening would have been good to know, but NOT ESSENTIAL to the storyline. Editing was just fine.
Hey Bob did you ever figure out who has the rights to Trek the Animated series and if you are going to do an animated or live action series?
No its Wonder Woman. :)
I got it the Klingons accidently find Khan revive him and ask for his help along with Khan’s people to help get rid of the Federation and they start with taking over the Enterprise.
screw you orci
126. boborci …
All right then……………:-) :-)
Is it really just another bad guy that has an issue with Earth/The Federation? Don’t get me wrong, I’d still go see it, but someone please tell me there’s a little more depth to the movie than that. Great for a first movie, not for a second.
#137 – “screw you orci” What?
120: “How many millions of dollars does any person need to feed, clothe and shelter themselves, especially when they do not have dependents?”
Depends on the overhead your lifestyle has to maintain. Apart from that, actors are like athletes. They never really know how long their career will be, so if they’re smart, they’ll get as much as they can as quickly as they can in case the good thing doesn’t last as long as they’d like. Money, even lots of it, is not hard to burn through quickly, moreso depending on the company you keep.
131. trekmademewonder – November 15, 2011
screw you orci
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What was THAT for?
IMHO there needs to be moderation on this forum. You have one of the most sought after hyphenates in the industry who generously gives of his time and has always been courteous and “as open as he can be” and then you have Neanderthal wankers like #131 who can ruin this superlative access for the rest of us. Shame on you.
122! Ha!
No, still Working on the second one (or 12th).
115. Well, lets see – after you turn in a draft, you get a budget, you start to find lcations, and of course you gauge everyones reaction so you can keep making the script better n the nex daft. Rewriting is a good thing which normally makes the script better. We like to keep pushng the script, even if no one gaives us notes.
139: “after you turn in a draft, you get a budget,”
What’s the budget?
140 its what pays for the movie;)
It is certainly disappointing to have to wait this long to follow up a successful film. They should have really grabbed on to the momentum they had after the success of the 2009 film.
Here’s a thought. Maybe they should film two films at once?! Everyone is doing it and they could either make them connected in some way or just two separate films. Use these actors while you have them!
At this point we wont get a new Trek TV series until 2020. If Paramount/CBS ever decides to do one or just have the Trek movies only?
141: D’oh!
112
Cool that the script has been done. I hope it is a worth the wait and true to what makes great Star Trek.
And please tell me that Khan is NOT the villain?
Dissapointing…but on a posititive note, at this rate they could revisit the episode ‘The Deadly Years’ !!! :o)
Greg
UK
112
Forgive me for the last message, Khan is one of my favourite villains and in this age of remakes and reboots I want something fresh with the next movie?
Can I ask if Star Trek XII be going back to Trek for inspiration or will JJ Abrams be wanting to put more Star Wars into it?
You made a great movie but I have to admit that I feel sad that some of the stuff I fell in love with in Trek has been lost to cater to the mainstream. However, I have hopes for a good film.
@ Bob Orci
I realize that you must get this kind of request all the time – or do you? I have mentioned on various occasions on this site that I have a story outline for Star Trek in this alternate universe. However, the main interest I have is in being able to see my alien people and their world brought to life somehow on the big screen. If my Menosians resemble any other aliens or other, it is by coincidence, truly. I first had the concept of Menosians and their world almost 12 years ago, before there was even a hint of more TOS era Star Trek films being made and BEFORE Avatar. Believe it or not, the inklings came from a dream I awoke from and it grew from there.
I am not a (professional) writer and have never written a screenplay/script in my life. Anyway, I figure that is your job…I guess this is where you might like to be able to come in. It is about how to incorporate them into the wider Star Trek world. Whether they exist in the prime universe, I do not know, nor is it relevant.
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It is a part of the universe where a massive “tide” ebbs and flows, concealing what is and then revealing, concealing again, then revealing, ever was, ever is, ever shall be… and this small Menosian planetary system exists within this anomaly. As Starfleet probes are sent out further from known points in the universe, some probes come back revealing an unusual situation. Not far from this, a new space station is under construction and nearing completion. Admiral Pike (now almost fully recuperated – just requiring crutches on occasion) arrived a little while ago and is overseeing the completion. Apart from exploring this area, the Enterprise is sent to the station with various equipment and essential supplies. On the Enterprise’s way to this corner of the universe, Chekhov and Spock keep reporting sensors’ detection of a vessel(s) which is there, then is not there. Spock “senses” that they are simply being watched, followed… Finally, a sensor captures an image before it is gone again.
To be continued – for your entertainment – or not.
Would Balance of Terror be a good episode for the sequel and updated for new fans?
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Why do people want rehashes on the classic episodes. Was this not a complaint in the spin off shows.
Better to do new stuff as the updated rehashes would be inferior to the originals.
@139 boborci. Thanks alot for the clarification!
Leonard Nimoy once said that they can hand you one hundred and fifty blank pages and say, now here, go shoot a movie. So I guess you guys are far, far more prepared than that.
150: “Why do people want rehashes on the classic episodes. Was this not a complaint in the spin off shows.”
I suppose for the same reason that people want “rehashes” of the classic series, series like Star Trek. Once you have accepted a reboot you have accepted the principle. Complaints about Khan or Klingons is just splittin’ hairs.
Bob Orci,
Okay, time to get this thread moving. I’m sure you’ve heard of today’s discovery of the extended Air Force One tapes of the various communications right after the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Link below. What do you think?
Yeah, I know we should be talking about the next movie but Bob really loves this stuff and it’s news.
http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-lost-jfk-assassination-tapes-sale-142502259.html
#150
Agreed.
Remember when TNG did a rehash of “The Naked Time” with “The Naked Now.” And the results were less than stellar (forgive the pun).
NEW universe. NEW stories, please!
And… [sigh] if they must… NEW “villains” as well.
151: “Leonard Nimoy once said that they can hand you one hundred and fifty blank pages and say, now here, go shoot a movie.”
Do that to me, and 20 minutes later you follow a windswept trail of paper to an outdoor cafe where you find me sitting, not a care in the world.
I think the Star Trek Plot Request Hotline is now closed and not taking any more calls.
Some of you should be getting in shape for what’s about to happen. Because for whatever option they chose, there’s a group of folks for each option that will feel like their balls are being squeezed in a vise.
Hopefully the sequel will be better than the last movie because the last movie was horrible! The plot holes were so big you could drive a truck through them.
After this they need to get new writers for STXIII.
157. Maybe we’ll hire new writers. Maybe we won’t. We’ll see how we feel.
Does that mean you don’t like the current storyline?
Sorry missed the ST XIII on #157′s post.
159 — talkin about next movie
158: After seeing the crap that fans put you through, what sick bastard would volunteer for such a mission?
Yes. Absolutely I would. I’ll go up that river ANY time!
While we wait an incredibly cruel amount of time for the sequel, how about a special edition of the first film on BD with some of the deleted Klingon scenes and others? You know, something to pass the time…
#89,Aurore,I’m fine! Thanks for asking! Tennessee is getting wet and cool on me though,but I LOVE the holidays so I’ll be alright! How are you? How is France doing these days? And Mr.Bob Orci,you have just rocked my world this eveing with this info!! :) :)
Mr. Orci — Blessings to you, Mr. Kurtzman et al. You have taken on quite a challenge taking on a franchise with some of the most exacting fans in the history of franchises.
Mr. Bob Orci remember that?… an interview in 2009… was the reporter actually right?… now the script is done… I’m trying here……… :-) :-)
“I asked Orci somewhat flippantly if that meant we might see Starfleet grappling with the ethics of torture or dealing with a rising terrorist threat or perhaps a painful, politicized war with the Klingons.
“Well yeah, those are the kind of issues we’re talking about. Wow, you’re good! But seriously that’s the way we’re thinking, that’s an approach. So if you have any ideas … ”
source: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2009/09/will-next-star-trek-take-the-klingons-to-guant%C3%A1namo.html
“Star Trek: Metamorphosis” how say ye. Kirk and crew meet Zefram Chochrane aka Benicio The Bull on a distant planet and have to rescue him from an electrified cloud who inexpicably falls in love with Spock. This pisses off Uhura who in this timeline is in the shuttlecraft minus the boring female diplomat. Our four main intrepid heroes escape but now the enterprise and crew face off against the creature in space hell bent on destroying them and next all federation planets in a jealous rage. Hey I’m not being paid to write this thanksgiving turkey.
And since my writing fee is of no account here’s another. “Star Trek: Who Mourns For Immortals” Benicio plays the god Zeus who resides on a distant planet named Valhalla and is pissed at humankind. In historical times they walked amongst men and now they make their awesome return. The federation with the Enterprise at the lead are tasked to defeat their army. Another epic with great battling set pieces and Kirk gets a chance to save the day by romancing one of the female gods, lets say Andromeda. If you really want action just add that fancy immortal bow that shoots energy arrows and other god-like weapons. A truly epic film with swords, sandals and phasers. (The type of mashup right up Bob’s alley, pardon the engineering parlance.) At the end there is a twist and Khan shows up and saves the day. In the next film “Star Trek: The Revenge of Khan” he turns evil and corrupt so Kirk and the Enterprise team have to match wits with him as he seeks to sieze the immortals weapons in order to rule the universe. Hey folks we are only 11 comments short of 1000 over at the Benicio del Toro article as of now.
While I enjoyed JJ’s first Star Trek movie quite a lot, in spite of many flaws, I am concerned that he and the others who currently hold its feature film fate are not wisely fostering the franchise. I would like to see it in the hands of somebody more committed to it and less committed to so many other projects. Frankly, I’m not impressed with their rate of success on their many TV and movie properties. I see a definite lack of focus.
Of course, I may be talking out of my butt, so pardon my breath if I am. Nevertheless, I’d like a movie more often than every five years, but I’d much rather see the movies go away in lieu of a new TV series, which is where Star Trek really belongs. That way you can truly develop your characters.
I’ll gladly see the next film, but it won’t be what I’m most wishing for. However, I never get what I wish for, so there you have it.
@155 dmduncan
I am assuming he’s talking about some other un-named director. (Who might that be hmmmmmm…?)
I’m sure he had scripts (and storyboards, and notes to the producer and notes to himself and notes to the actors) firmly in hand for STIII and STIV.
#170 There is the saying “Be careful what you wish for. You just may get it”.
Everyone, the numbers do not match up to the names. Please – take care.
Bob Orci – You must love drafts. Do windows ever get shut in your home?…:)
“141. dmduncan – November 15, 2011
139: “after you turn in a draft, you get a budget,”
What’s the budget?”
“142. boborci – November 15, 2011
140 its what pays for the movie;)”
Now with answers like the one above, I think it is time that you and I have a little chat…:)
171. Keachick – rose pinenut – November 15, 2011
Oh my fault entirely for stepping on that rake. By now I should know better than to ask Bob a question guaranteed to get me a Groucho Marx answer.
And by the way? I actually HAVE stepped on a rake before, and what happens when you see that in the movies actually happens in real life too.
If trekmovie.com does, indeed, go under, I wonder what site Bob Orci will frequent so we can get these neat tidbits?
#174 That is one of the reasons why I like Trekmovie, such a shame.
Martin Scorsese has directed a film in 3-D, “Hugo.” The Supreme Court wants to make a deeper Star Trek. If Scorsese sees the artistic value of 3-D so can J.J. Abrams. Here’s my vote for the next movie to be filmed in 3-D. No conversions.
First, let’s face it. Paramount knows most of us will watch the next Star Trek in 3-D just to check out. Second, the more money Star Trek makes, the more Star Trek. Third, think about the mind blowing scenes filmed in 3D. Nebulas in between you and the screen. (See end credits to “Thor.”) A giant space battle between Klingons and Romulans. (See the beginning to the craptastic “Transformers: Dark of the Moon” ) Imagine Scotty in outer space doing a space walk and checking out the Enterprise’s ample nacelles.
Strange post. This was reported as fact, months ago. And, here it is, months later, and being reported as “rumor”, on “TrekMovie”??
“Some of you should be getting in shape for what’s about to happen. Because for whatever option they chose, there’s a group of folks for each option that will feel like their balls are being squeezed in a vise.”
Been there, done that, pardner. In Twenty-Aught-Nine. Now, with no hopes or expectations about what the current crew may or may not deliver, my privy parts are vise-free. And that’s good!
Given that I found the first film almost impossibly thin ground on which to construct a sequel, maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised. I’d like to think that I’m open to such a possibility, anyway. In any event I’ll certainly check out the damned thing at least once, out of curiosity if nothing else. Studios bank on this sort of attitude, which is why specialty stores in Beverly Hills that sell items like platinum kitty litterboxes rarely seem to go out of business.
@176: BB: Yeah, I like 3D when it is filmed that way. I am so stoked for The Hobbit, more so than any other movie. PJ’s video blogs really get me excited for 3D, the care he takes to make it look awesome has sold me that it will be.
Speaking of which, I wonder if there would be any chance of Abrams doing a video blog like Peter Jackson. Oh, wait, the whole mystery-box thing. Stupid mystery box. Why won’t he just open the dang thing? I so want to open that.
How did four years become five years among some of our… uh…”dimmer” fans?
12. Vultan – November 14, 2011
2013 is not really a surprise. But shouldn’t those “Ghostbusters 2″ fingers in the above logo be crossed? As in fingers-crossed this movie gets made sometime this decade….
How about instead of fingers crossed in that logo, just make it a middle finger to the fans and make us wait another 5 years. Maybe they will finally get the script finished, the director locked down, the actors signed up, etc. etc.
#173.
Yeah, I too have stepped on a rake once, a long time ago. The handle hit me on the forehead, and it hurt a lot, while the people around me were laughing. I was putting something away in the closet, it was dark out, and I couldn’t see much in front of me.
But, that’s a fine example of real life slap stick comedy! Except I didn’t get paid…..
#131.
Go screw yourself, asswipe!
boborci; nice to see you ‘back’ and with a sense of humor. Thanks for the movie-making info. Any info. is better than none at all.
I’m always impressed when you return to mingle with our rancid little enclave – though I can’t imagine why you do so. These forays must set you apart from your peers. Too bad we aren’t a more deserving bunch.
dmduncan; I also stepped on a rake when I was a barefoot 11 year old rebel; bloodied my head, my foot, and my pride. It’s the kinda thing you only do once.
131…. I have to tell you that what you said to our friend is out of line. I hope the moderators ban you. Not for not liking the news, or whatever your problem is, but for being so blatantly rude! This made me flush with anger…. how dare you talk like that to Bob!! We also here DO NOT wish to tolerate this behavior towards any posters here. *face palm* I think my BP is up now…. It’s like taking a spoiled bratty kid without any social graces to visit a friend- You need a time out. A long time out.
134 keachick and 137 dmduncan…my thoughts exactly. Where the hell did that come from?
157…insulting someone who brought Trek back into the mainstream workin for ya? Really? Cause it doesn’t for the majority here!! If you didn’t like it, why in God’s green earth are you here?
For the record, I too am disappointed at the set back to 2013- But s— happens and we will get through it just fine. But that is absolutely no excuse for the way you talk to someone hear that is highly regarded here as one of our own.
So hit the road, (my being rude now, but have to stick up for our members who act reasonably) if you can’t talk in a more respective manner- and let the rest of us enjoy this site for what it is meant to be. For grown ups, who can speak their mind without the insults.
Thanks Bob for the updates. Sorry for those who are unable to be grateful for the updates and the feel the need to do this.
Mods??? Please address this issue. It is becoming a recurrent problem.
Continued from post #149 Keachick – rose pinenut
…James Kirk stood at the space station window peering into the deep blueness of space. In the far distance colours weaved their way around here and there. Then, all of sudden, a vessel that he recognised appeared right in front of the window. He let his towel draped around his waist drop. He had not seen anything quite like this before. The staff on the space station mentioned seeing similar vessels hovering about, however no one had been able to get near them. They seemed to pose no threat though – just watched.
Just as Kirk was about speak into his wrist communicator, it buzzed.
“Captain. Do you see what I see?”
“Yes, Spock, I do. Beam me back to the ship.”
James Kirk then muttered to himself “So, you are the old boss lady, are you?!” followed by thinking to himself WTF?
“Jim. Are you crazy? You know what Pike said. No one has been able to go near them. They have always been repelled by some sort of force-field”. Dr McCoy was agitated by the mutual suggestion that Kirk and Spock should go out in space suits and go right up to the vessel. Indications were that this was some kind of organic and intelligent being who lived in space. Perhaps getting closer in person might make it less defensive.
Spock was correct. Without too much a do, Kirk and Spock were inside the organic vessel. They found they could remove their space suits and oxygen masks as the air was breathable and a little sweet. It had carved out wooden benches and a table in one room. Small roots ran along the floor, small leafy vines weaved around the walls and ceiling. There was a little water trough in one corner and little flowers floated on the top. In another small room was a panel with controls and two chairs. Spock gently sat down at the controls while Kirk stood, slightly mesmerised by it all. Spock touched a control and suddenly they could see outside in every direction. Seeing the entire Enterprise docked always made James Kirk’s heart miss several beats – such an unreal, awesome sight.
The vessel began moving slowly away from the station and then sped up. As a backup, a shuttlecraft was standing by and Kirk and Spock asked to be beamed back. However, Spock was the only one who made it back to the shuttlecraft. In that instant, Kirk was thrown against a far wall and was knocked momentarily unconscious. The vessel had started moving at a much greater speed and when Kirk tried to get up, vines wrapped themselves around him to allow him to steady himself. He called to the Enterprise, however there was no reply. Looking up he watched one enormous beautifully lit silently moving metallic ship pass over him in this little alien vessel. He realized that the Enterprise was unaware that he was just below them. His alien vessel turned in a slightly different direction and the vines pulled him into a comfortable seated position.
The landing was bumpy, very bumpy. Despite the vine straps, Kirk was thrown about and hit his head on the edge of the small table. He fell into unconsciousness…
The sun’s warmth on his face woke the alien human. The place was alive with birdsong and insects, the rustling of grasses and the distant sound of rushing water. The alien male known as Jim Kirk to his friends got up and stretched and stripped off his shirt – he felt hot, itchy and uncomfortable. He climbed up the grassy hillside and sought the shade of the nearby forest. He was sore, bleeding and bruised and his slow walking turned into a limp. Jim Kirk was disorientated and struggled to remember whatever it was… He rested, but as he got to his feet, he slipped and began tumbling down through thick forest undergrowth. A sharp point of a plant hooked onto his pants and ripped them from his body, except for one part which held him there. He grabbed onto the hanging vines. He could hear the thunderous sound of rushing water just beneath him. With every ounce of effort he could muster, he pulled himself up onto a tiny ledge. His head pounded, he sweated profusely and vomited.
The vessel he came in was among thousands of other similar looking lifeforms. As he perched precariously on the ledge, he felt cool water flowing onto his face and lips and he drank it thirstily…
Kirk was once again inside one of these smaller creatures. It was resting on an embankment not far from the river. James Kirk awoke to the sound of knocking. Slowly the creature opened itself, revealing its alien passenger (or was it – patient?)
Kirk squinted and then asked, “Spock?”
“No, I am not Spock. I am Suranai.”
“Where is Spock? Where is everyone?”
“I do not … Spock. He is safe…Yes, he is safe!” Suranai told an injured and distressed young Kirk.
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#186.
Riiiiiiggggghhhhhttttt…………..
I think Bob is a very capable writer. Doubt he needs any help in the scripting process.
And the rest of us don’t need to know about your fantasies!
#177
It’s not fact. The only fact reported was that the movie was off the Summer 2012 slate (which was reported here). That’s it. Paramount hasn’t made any official announcements about it.
Hoope the world doesnt end in 2012;)
Bob – I’m sure the Mayans were just lazy and thought a calendar only needs to go 1000 years into the future…
RDR – I was not offering Bob Orci any help with the scripting process. I am well aware of his abilities.
As for fantasies, I see enough of other people’s fantasies, wishes and desires posted here and there are some that I really do not have any desire to know about either. However, they post them and I simply read them and I do not go out of my way to ignore anyone’s thoughts or ideas, unlike someone, so I found out not so long ago.
I guess you do not think much of my story. Fine. Perhaps you should allow “the rest of us” to speak for themselves. Fear not, that is all the story anyone will be getting here anyway. There is more but none need to know…except those who may an interest and the real ability to know what to do with it in a positive way, perhaps.
When does a fantasy become a story to become a screenplay to become a script in the hands of actors to become film?
Edit: Sorry, I meant to say: When does a fantasy become a story become a screenplay become a script in the hand of actors and become a film?
192. I liked your story.
As for answering your question, it happens when you are super lucky!
Thank you, Bob Orci. You are welcome. You are a super lucky man to be able see some of your ideas fleshed out by actors on screen. This is a good thing.
This is the same sad state of affairs we experienced after 2002. These continued delays should prove to all of us that Paramount is not focused on reviving the series at all. Within four years Paramount has released three Transformers films without interruption or threat of delay. Have no doubt my friends that the Star Trek sequel is being treated as a second rate project through and through. While I believe this website has no serious influence on anything substantively related to the film, it has none the less placated the situation in every way: offering nothing but excuses and bowing to an overrated production staff in order to get their support for this sorry website. The real thing that bugs me about trekmovie.com is that it is run like a state sponsored news source. It tolerates absolutely no criticism for the god awful direction the filmmakers have taken the series and maintains a shocking level of indifference to the continued neglect that Paramount has given to a franchise that they supposedly, not long ago, committed to reviving. Maybe the some of these members of the “Supreme Court,” as some have sadly labeled the delicate geniuses who can’t even stick to a release date, should recuse themselves from this project if they have no interest in seeing this franchise sustain beyond their own contacts.
195. This site has affected the Trek franchise more than any other fan source ever!
Here is a funny cartoon about 2012 … you never know it could be true! haha!
waaaaaahhhh!!! All this crying in here about this website is appalling.
1) I suppose Anthony has other concerns (and I doubt he really needs me defending him)– like working for a living.
2) If you don’t like the site, why come in here? (the obvious answer: to whine, criticize, bitch and moan). You know, this site is free… if you feel the pay sites are going to be more informative, go there and find out how great they are (sarcasm).
3) Follow up: If you don’t like the site, why not go out and create your own?
4) Follow up #2: If you don’t like the site, why come in here and whine about it ruining the fun for the rest of us?
Sure, we’d all like timely information–if there is any. If there isn’t, then a lot of you complain that Anthony’s not reporting anything new. I don’t know how Anthony recompenses his staff, so I won’t venture any guesses, but back to my original point–each of them probably have concerns outside of trying to please a vocal group of haters (sorry Kayla, I’m stealing your word).
And if there isn’t any new or timely info about the movie, what would you have Anthony and the staff do? Make it up? Last time I checked this was not Fox News.
This kind of bitching and snotty attitudes is exactly what killed off “Star Trek – Enterprise.” Instead of looking for the bad in everything, why not try doing something positive… like contributing…. or if not that, zip the lip (as my Mom used to say.
Keep up the work, Anthony! Some us DO appreciate you and your staff’s efforts!
#68 — Into the Breach: “Robopocalypse? The Terminator meets I, Robot more like!”
Hey clueless, maybe read the freaking book next time before you make assinine comments like this that prove that you have no idea what you are talking about.
#114: “Bob, don’t let the whiners bother you. They would complain that Marilyn Monroe’s bra was too hard to unsnap!”
Not to perpetuate any stereotypes, mind you… but are you sure some of the fanboys even knew (1) who Marilyn Monroe was or (2) what a bra is.
KIDDING!!!
I do have to add one thing. A lot of people surely are upset about the 4 years + gap between the movie and its sequel. I’d be one of them, BUT let’s put some things into perspective here.
When “Star Trek” was canceled in 1969, we had to wait the better part of ten years (not counting the animated series in the interim) for anything significant to add to the lore (aside to the novels and countless fanzines).
And to play devil’s advocate to what I said above, I also think it is pretty unconscionable for Paramount to let one of their more lucrative franchises languish like this.
Lastly, thanks Rosario…. for the update… And a big thanks for Mr. Orci’s comments. It’s always a pleasure seeing a “member of the court” visit with us!
195- I am thinking it is Paramount and not the Supreme Court- I could be wrong, I am just guessing but it seemed to take JJ a while to get back on board. I am just nothing less than shocked that a movie like Transformers and TMNT could be thought of as good movies to complete before Trek.
I liked the eye candy (special effects) in Transformers as I appreciate the art of computer graphics and animation. The story would have been better if the details had been attended to properly esp. in the 2nd movie. But even in T1, the story lacked and seemed cliche (but that could have been done purposely to appeal to the younger male population), and the small details overlooked, like attn to make-up and clothing being awfully clean to be put through as much as the characters went through.
With all that said, here you have a great movie, (Trek) loved by fans and critics alike, so I don’t understand the rationale here. Why would anyone would want to place bets with yet another low rated performing movie before one (Trek)? Trek had high ratings and brought life back into a franchise that showed some promise. It could be on top if given the chance.
I can’t understand the business end I guess.
and 196- Bob, that is good to know about the site : )
Mr Orci
What works better for you a fresh villain or a rehash of a classic villain?
Do you think Hollywood is remaking too much these days?
Good questions. Woud love to answer them but i can’t!
Guessing is part of the fun.
#197 boborci – were you referring to my post at #195 or to someone else’s post?
#196 – John D “The real thing that bugs me about trekmovie.com is that it is run like a state sponsored news source. It tolerates absolutely no criticism for the god awful direction the filmmakers have taken the series and maintains a shocking level of indifference to the continued neglect that Paramount has given to a franchise that they supposedly, not long ago, committed to reviving…”
Really? So how come I am reading your objections here on Trekmovie.com and have also been able to copy and paste part of your post into my own post on Trekmovie.com?
Honestly, it seems one of the favourite hobbies of some is to come here and bitch and whine and moan and, at various times, call the producers, writers, directors, actors (past and present) bad names. In fact, even on this very thread here, some *kind* poster told Trekmovie.com guest Star Trek writer and poster to, well, never mind. I think we all know what I am referring to.
John D and others – It has all been said before many, many times. I suspect that Bob Orci is not that dim as to have not got the message, but does it help him or anyone else for that matter? For me personally, NO! It does not! Geez, go write a nice story or something. Do something positive!
Reality check – get off your high horses. Good grief!
166. Olivia.
Hi!
France has been generously offering (me) foggy landscapes, recently!
Which is fine by me…so long as I don’t have to step outside, given the fact that, it’s FREEZING too, these days, especially in the morning.
But, enough with my weather-related whining; I’m well, thanks.
(And, I’m glad to see you happy with what was said earlier, on this thread…)
# 206 Keachick: “Honestly, it seems one of the favourite hobbies of some is to come here and bitch and whine and moan and, at various times, call the producers, writers, directors, actors (past and present) bad names.”
In America it’s called the First Amendment, and it includes freedom of speech (of religion and of the press.) And I believe if you were watching Star Trek closely, you would notice that James T. Kirk defends such rights, as basic human rights, throughout the galaxy.
As I’ve said before I abhor “group-think.” I do not think the point of this site is to reach some consensus, especially a consensus that has been determined by a self-appointed arbiter of “truth.”
I don’t drink poison Kool-aid, I don’t attend “Festival” and I do not adhere to the will of Landru.
208- it is ok to disagree VFC- but it is NOT ok to treat others rudely or disrepectively in the process. No one is asking anyone to drink any kool-aid. It is still tacky tellling someone to “screw off” or how or we need different writers write Trek!
#205 Bob Orci
Hey Bob, dont you agree that a reveal of the villain is not a bad thing this go around? At least give us a hint will ya? ;]
#208 – Please don’t tell me about the First Amendment and I am not denying anyone their freedom of speech. I am just commenting on some of what I have read. I believe that this site already has a “self-appointed arbiter of ‘truth’”, as you put it, and he is called Anthony Pascale, moderator. He has been known on occasions to delete people’s posts if he feels they have violated certain standards. I guess you could say that he has definitely violated their “freedom of speech”. I have no such power to delete anyone’s posts, not even my own!
Who is talking “group-think” or consensus, except you that is, because you are the only one to refer to such terms?
“I don’t drink poison Kool-aid, I don’t attend “Festival” and I do not adhere to the will of Landru.”
I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never had Kool-aid, I don’t know what this “Festival” is nor do I know what the “will of Landru” is. If you want to impress upon me your ideas, please talk about something I might actually know about. I am not an American but I do have certain rights, including freedom of speech and association. I am also very aware of what Captains Kirk and Picard stood for.
OH HELL NO– 2012 please!
205
Could you confirm that you will not be using Khan as the villain?
“Could you confirm that you will not be using Khan as the villain?”
Could you imagine what would happen on this thread, if Mr. Orci were to answer “NO” to your question?
:)
Much the same if he were to answer “YES”. Poor guy. I guess we shouldn’t really be too surprised if he decides that he won’t write the story for the third movie. We can be very scary people and not terribly forgiving – not that there will probably be anything that requires forgiving, but you know how it is…
“I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never had Kool-aid, I don’t know what this “Festival” is nor do I know what the “will of Landru” is. If you want to impress upon me your ideas, please talk about something I might actually know about.”
Um . . someone want to help out with this?
Why, Michael Hall? Don’t you know what this poster is talking about either? I don’t and I am not sure I want or need to know.
“Much the same if he were to answer ‘YES’ ”
…Or even…”MAYBE”.
So! Mr. Orci, “YES”, “NO”, or, “Maybe”?
:)
@Roberto Orci.
……..Yes…..yes, that’s right………. take your time to answer this…..
:))
OK, now I know what is meant by the will of Landru. It comes from a TOS season 1 episode called “The Return of the Archons”, however, I do not see how this is relevant to what I have said on this thread. Yes, I know that some religious nut got a whole community of believers to drink Kool-aid laced with poison. I don’t see what that has to do with my earlier comments either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_the_Archons
Aurore – we know that Bob Orci will take his own sweet time to answer with a “maybe”. I know, we need to be dumber than dumb again…hmm.
“I know, we need to be dumber than dumb again…hmm.”
As a Star Trek fan he’ll whine about our level of dumbness which he’ll always find lacking. That’s a given.
We just can’t win for losing, I’m afraid…
:)
Perhaps we could take the opposite approach by being extraordinarily intelligent and bright, that we miss the bleedin’ obvious right in front of us. I’ll work on it. We need a master plan…
“Perhaps we could take the opposite approach by being extraordinarily intelligent and bright, that we miss the bleedin’ obvious right in front of us. I’ll work on it. We need a master plan…”
…Well, I…did….. notice that insulting him worked wonders…Just sayin’…
Not that we should take that into consideration or anything. For, we are better than this………..I’m sure you are, anyway…
……No…no, you’re right , perhaps there is a line one musn’t cross….
:)
#198 boborci
awesome, all we ask for is a seat watching the sequel with you and the court :) and to let us know somehow who the villain is without telling us > :)
@Bob
Bring back Kirk and reestablish the time line. There is NO way Old Spock would allow such a thing to happen without trying to fix it. As we have seen so many times in the past.
What we don’t need to see now is more rehashing. If that was the case then really what the hell was the point in starting over? You are not doing anything “new”.
Kirk (SHATNER) please!
Re-establish the time line.
Spock would not allow billions of Vulcans and his home world to be destroyed if he knew how to travel through time.
You say you are a fan of Trek…please show it!
….and please no more nods and can we try to be a “Star Wars wanna be”..
What if the villian is the Gorn and they start attacking everything and the Federation team up with the Klingons to help defeat the Gorn?
@180 “Given that I found the first film almost impossibly thin ground on which to construct a sequel, maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised. I’d like to think that I’m open to such a possibility, anyway. In any event I’ll certainly check out the damned thing at least once, out of curiosity if nothing else. Studios bank on this sort of attitude, which is why specialty stores in Beverly Hills that sell items like platinum kitty litterboxes rarely seem to go out of business.”
Dexter, I have heard of a “glass is half full” outlook, but you are stretching that definition here, my friend! :-)
““I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never had Kool-aid, I don’t know what this “Festival” is nor do I know what the “will of Landru” is. If you want to impress upon me your ideas, please talk about something I might actually know about.”
Sheesh, stop being lazy and do a little bit of Trek and pop culture reasearch, would you? I’m embarassed for you, VulcanFilmCritic.
@215 “Much the same if he were to answer “YES”. Poor guy. I guess we shouldn’t really be too surprised if he decides that he won’t write the story for the third movie. We can be very scary people and not terribly forgiving – not that there will probably be anything that requires forgiving, but you know how it is…”
Sheesh, give me a break. It is a mutually satisfying yet disfunctional relationship — we get to bitch a little bit now and then about some Trek topics like the ungrateful bastards some of us are, but then we provide an audience for Bob to pontificate on on wacky political and conspiracy ideas…everyone gets something out of this relationship :-)
#227
That’s too DS9 and wrestling thing, xyz vs abc yawn!
#227
Exploration leads to some conflict, USS Enterprise like the USA hehe tries to help without doing too much damage, Kirk like a cowboy saves the day.
Cops in space that go around fixing things.
Add in some shake-spear drama to grow relationships and develop characters, opera music, fantastic cgi and a message about some political left, right, middle allegory to make the population aware of a issue and there you go.
I’m just hoping for no stupid low budget fist fighting scene ontop of some mountain, I want some epic kung fu scenes with the help of the hong kong choreographers that made the matrix so f’ing awesome.
Spock doing this to 10 Klingons/Vulcans after killing Uhura/Kirk with Kor and Kang watching.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2285601/1_vs_10_ownage_ip_man_2008/
@191 Boborci
That has been my biggest fear and reason in wanting TREK 12 before December 21st of 2012 look at all those 1′s and 2′s its a sign!! I dont want to die with out seeing the next film…….
#234
Many trek fans has passed waiting for next film I imagine, lets hope they can watch new movies in their new realm.
#229 – If you look at post #220, I did do some research and posted a link to the episode that is about the will of Landru and the “Festival”. However, referring to Kool-aid, will of Landru and “Festival” meant little to me as these are not common expressions used here and I do not see their relevance to what I was saying anyway. Maybe someone else does.
edit: expressions or references used where I am…
“I’m just hoping for no stupid low budget fist fighting scene ontop of some mountain, I want some epic kung fu scenes with the help of the hong kong choreographers that made the matrix so f’ing awesome.”
我喜欢!!!!!!!!! (非常 喜欢!)
In any case,I certainly don’t want any small fist fighting scene on top of some mountain…or bridge…
I’m confident we’ll have fantastic fight scenes!!!
:)
…I do want beautiful love scenes too, Mr. Orci.
You know what I mean. If you don’t, just pretend you do.
I’ve always thought that ‘trekmademewonder’ was the best ID on this site. To me, the thought it expressed was heartfelt and resonated with me. But the person behind that ID has often not lived up to that poetic name. After the vulgar personal attack on Bob, ‘trekmademewonder’ deserves to be permanently banned.
#238
I like (very much) also :)
#239 Yes, I do too, if we are talking about the same thing…:)
I know that Bob Orci does not need my help, but I do have a little story about a human alien called Jim Kirk who meets a lovely Menosian woman. They fall in love. Menosians are loving and passionate people who love sex. The women, in particular, need to have good regular sex in order to keep themselves “primed”. Kirk, being human, does cause her some difficulties, but none that can’t be overcome given understanding of the slightly different physiologies (not that visibly discernible), kindness and patience.
Bob’s gone again…:(
I think it might have some to do with a draft and not closing a window…:)
#242
My womanosian is going to have civil war with your menosian, we will plunder all the gold, tie up the woman and round up the sheep!
#243 – Gold? Yes, Menosia may have something akin to gold, but the planet has actually something far more valuable and useful than gold – at least the Klingons think so.
Round up the sheep? What have sheep got to do with anything? Please explain yourself…
I have just found out that Bob Orci is married to Melissa Blake, who is also a writer. Gosh, their place must be so windswept at times…:)!
Since the subject of sheep was raised – check out a little movie called Black Sheep (2006). Perhaps this is where *they* got the idea to turn tribbles into nasties…:)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0779982/
“#239 Yes, I do too, if we are talking about the same thing…:)”
……Ah, yes………we are, I suppose; the romance which has really grown on dmduncan and some others over the years….
SWEET romance…
:))
Correction.224.
musn’t = mustn’t
#242.
Alright, enough of this Menosian fantasy crap already! We get it. You like to indulge in cheesy romantic fantasies. Just stop doing it here!
I really am sorry that life has not been kind to you, Red Dead Ryan, and that you now seem bitter about situations presented where notions of being and behaving in a patient and kind and loving way make you angry. I guess you are not the only one and perhaps that is the reason why so much of this world is such a goddamn miserable place to be in.
So now I know what is meant by “cheesy” and “crap”. Maybe you have not noticed what other posters are “indulging” in – this, for example –
“I want some epic kung fu scenes with the help of the hong kong choreographers that made the matrix so f’ing awesome.”
Well, it may not be “cheesy”, but it could still be considered crap by some.
BTW, all these fight scenes that people want to see – well, if a lot of what is seen happened in real life, most of those people would be cripples or dead. Even a fit actor Chris Pine managed to injure his sacrum and groin muscles while doing a stage performance of the Lieutenant of Inishmore and was on anti-inflammatories and pain killers in order to continue performing and saw physios and chiropractors every other day.
You all seem so blase about having all these wrestling, punch ups, kung fu stype stuff without even considering what you are really wanting. No wonder the stunt cast is as huge, if not bigger, than the actual actors’ list on many movies. Then you want to see big spaceship battles with lots of explosions which means that if it were for real, there could be hundreds of people killed or terribly wounded with plasma burns and the like.
I knew a lady who was a nurse in England during World War 2. She treated wounded soldiers and worked in the Burns unit. Not nice, not pretty! Just a LOT of terrible pain and disfigurement!
Enough of this fighting, spaceship battles, use of phasers that can cause pain and disfigurement. I get it. Many of you like to indulge in cruel, dark fantasies. Just stop doing it here!
#250.
Oh, give me a f#ckin’ break, now will ya? We all know what we see in the movies is fake, like space battles and kung fu, etc., but that’s what makes movies so fun to watch. It’s an escape from our normal, boring, mundane lives!
There’s nothing crap about a good space battle, or a scene featuring massive fighting between enemy crews. If the movie sucks, it sucks because of the script, or the acting, not because it has space battles or fighting. Space is a dangerous place, and any race we’d encounter might potentially be hostile. People getting hurt or killed is part of the process of depicting a drama set in space!
Look, I get it, you’re a PC-minded, “let’s solve every problem by talking it over” peacenik hippie, who wishes to impose your Harlaquin novel style romantic fantasies on this site! But most of us don’t want that!
You seem to want a sappy, steamy kind of soap opera type Star Trek that is purely to satisfy your own desires. Some of us don’t want that! I like Chris Pine as an actor, but I have no desire to see him naked. And I don’t want to see Zoe Saldana naked either. Nakedness and sex in movies is done mainly for shock value. Rarely does it add anything to the story!
Is that so f#ckin’ hard to understand??
Now you are swearing at me! Wow! Boy, have I pressed your button? I think you need to get it sewn back on before it pops off completely.
So it is OK for people like you to “impose” your ideas that there is nothing crap about space battles and fighting on others, to purely satisfy your own desires?
Yes, you’re right.
“If the movie sucks, it sucks because of the script, or the acting, not because it has space battles or fighting. Space is a dangerous place, and any race we’d encounter might potentially be hostile. People getting hurt or killed is part of the process of depicting a drama set in space!”
This also applies to scenes with sexual encounters and nakedness as well.
I have not been the one to say that there shouldn’t be scenes with fights or space battles. In fact, I was one who said I would like to see some Kirk-fu. I also said that I would like to see Kirk win at least one hand-to-combat fight in the next movie, because he does have his ass kicked a lot and it would be nice to see to win occasionally against an adversary. If you bothered reading my previous posts on various threads, you will see them.
I am not denying anyone anything. But you are attempting to deny me and people with similar views and wishes to myself. Maybe, because of the attitudes towards sex and nakedness in the US (mainly negative and puerile), it seems to have a shock value. However, it does not have to be that way.
Don’t worry, RDR. You’ll get what you want because all kinds of violence and gore passes with a PG-13 rating (Star Trek’s rating) whereas a glimpse of a female nipple will no doubt receive some R-rating. The movie makers won’t want to get an R-rating.
“Look, I get it, you’re a PC-minded, “let’s solve every problem by talking it over” peacenik hippie, who wishes to impose your Harlaquin novel style romantic fantasies on this site! But most of us don’t want that!”
Anyway, since when would Kirk and Jasmia just be “talking it over”? Duh
No, you get NOTHING! I have never been a hippie and I have never read a Harlequin novel or any like it. The last time I watched 90210 or whatever it’s called was in the 1990s. However I have pushed out three babies – first labour – 26 hours, 2nd and 3rd labours – 12 hours. With the last two labours, I had no pain killers, due to bad reactions. I have also suffered a blighted ovum. Google it. Is that cheesy enough for you? Don’t you dare tell me about pain (in space or anywhere else)!
You know, sometimes, I don’t know why we women bother… Oh wait, many now are not bothering. I am beginning to see why that might be!
“Is that so f#ckin’ hard to understand?” Mere male. Sheesh!
Oh, and Keachick, PLEASE do not lump all women into the same category as you.
#252.
Sheesh! Enough already! I don’t need to read about your childbirth experiences which have nothing to do with what we’re talking about!
Nice try with the straw man arguement!
Now get the F#CK off this site RIGHT NOW!!
Star Trek: Sex in the Quadrant
Would Uhura find her way into Spocks life? Stay tuned!
Wish List 1) Justin Beiber in a red shirt and he’s stuck in a time loop where he gets vaporized over and over :)
2) More steroids for Star Trek!!! I vant to pump you up!!!
My Star Trek men aren’t into steroids. They don’t need that crap. Anyway, too many steroids pump up some muscles at the expense of a more delicate, sensitive and infinitely more important and beautiful muscle. This cannot be allowed to happen…;)
“Wish List 1) Justin Beiber in a red shirt and he’s stuck in a time loop where he gets vaporized over and over :)”
Yes, I can see how the above quoted could work…:)
As for Justin Bieber and sex though – the Star Trek no more condones pedophilia than does the world we live in now. Simple answer – No!
Oh for an edit function – should be “the Star Trek world…”
#256
Lol /blush
OMG!!! Just make the sequel! I mean, Transformers and Paranormal Activity !!!!!!???? Isn’t 3 enough? They’re popular, I’m sure, but not classic! Not like Star Trek! Give it a rest with Transformers already! It does get old. At least with things like Trek and Star Wars you have an infinitely expanding story. The possibilities are endless. But with those two, robots, robots, robots, ghosts, ghosts, ghosts. Like I said, it gets old.