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Watch: The Shatner Strikes Back At Carrie Fisher November 30, 2011

by TrekMovie.com Staff , Filed under: Humor,Shatner,Viral Video/Mashup/Images , trackback

A couple weeks back we reported on Carrie Fisher firing back via video on William Shatner after he arguing that Star Trek was better than Star Wars. Now Shatner has replied back again in this latest video feud of the sci-fi stars. Watch Shatner take down Fisher below.

 

The Shatner Strikes Back

Star Trek is the "sunrise" according to Shatner.

Previous salvos

And if you missed it, here again is Shatner’s original shot across the Star Wars bow.

…and Carrie Fisher saying Star Trek is not "in the same league" as Star Wars.

Thanks to Darryl

 

Comments

1. Dan - November 30, 2011

First!!!! and Ouch!!!

2. windelkin - November 30, 2011

That was Awesome Shat! I love the last bit about fitting into the costume now. Keep it going! Let’s see what Her Highness can come back with. I love this!

3. dmduncan - November 30, 2011

That was funny. Can’t wait for Carrie Fisher’s response.

4. themanle1 - November 30, 2011

Star Trek was FIRST!! The End!!

5. Brian47 - November 30, 2011

This is such an idiotic and old argument. Why can’t both be great for completely different reasons? Why can’t both steak tar tar and croque monsieur be great dishes, both found in French restaurants? It’s so pointless that a “winner” be crowned. I certainly enjoy them both greatly but in different ways… when I am in the mood for Trek, nothing else compares. When I am in mood for Star Wars, nothing else compares. There can be two truths existing simultaneously.

I realize they are the two dominant space-centric franchises of the last 40 years, but if you want to get technical, Trek was there first and its FX were groundbreaking for their time. Star Wars brough myth to the big screen in a sci-fi setting but handles different subject matter than Trek.

6. Chingatchkook - November 30, 2011

Bickering about Star Trek vs Star Wars is like arguing whether Picasso or Rembrandt is the better painter.

But Shat? He’s the man, now and always!

7. Dee - lvs moon' surface - November 30, 2011

LOL………

8. sos1 - November 30, 2011

What we need now is Leonard Nimoy and Mark Hamill to have a logical and philosphical discussion to make these two old pensioners look even more stoopid.

9. Michael - November 30, 2011

Oh brother! Really? What did Bill once say? Get a life?

10. Chuck - November 30, 2011

This back and forth is hilarious!!!! Touche’ Bill!

11. NHK - November 30, 2011

Bill wins… nuff said

12. Steve K. - November 30, 2011

The problem is that Shatner has actually had a real carreer, and Star Wars is all Carrie has ever done that was worth a crap. The only other thing I’ve ever seen her in that was of any consequence at all was some completely ridiculous thing called Under the Rainbow.

13. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - November 30, 2011

All Hail the Shat. The Shat will Win this War. As Star Trek will Win this War. Long Live the Shat and Star Trek.

14. Matias47 - November 30, 2011

Re: 8

Ha, ha — I would pay real money to see that.

Re: 6

Rembrandt, dammit!

Ok, kidding. I agree, they’re totally different. I happen to like Star Trek better, though there are episodes I can’t watch. With SW I can only stomach “A New Hope (barely),” and “The Empire Strikes Back,” the rest, … meh.

But, I have friends who like SW better.

They’re wrong, of course.

15. section9 - November 30, 2011

The one and only Shat!

16. trekker 5 - November 30, 2011

You rock Shat!! :)

17. dhgfakdjgf - November 30, 2011

I THINK THAT IS A DECLARATION OF WAR!
Brace yourselves!

18. Phil - November 30, 2011

Would love to be the fly on the wall for those Shatner/Fisher lunch dates…..

19. SciFiGuy - November 30, 2011

LOVE IT!!!! HAHAHAHA!!! Bring on round…well…is it three or four? Lost count! Bring it!!! LOL!!! And I really miss those Takei/Shatner feuds too…they should bring those back as well. That’s serious and yet priceless entertainment…pure comedy GOLD!! LOL!!!

20. Robert Paulson - November 30, 2011

This is funny stuff. But DOCTOR WHO still beats them both easily.

21. alt-Spock - November 30, 2011

LMAO! That is classic. The Shat is so awesome.

22. JRT - November 30, 2011

Doctor Who isn’t that good and doesn’t really beat them easily at all. The last two seasons have been……mildly entertaining,at best. Kinda moved on from it as it turned into Just Another Tv Show.

Looking forward to next years Spidey movie and the next ST movie though,lol!

Have fun y’all!

23. Basement Blogger - November 30, 2011

Funny stuff from the Shat. Ouch about Carrie Fisher and the metal bikini. She has lost a lot of weight, Bill.

24. Brett Campbell - December 1, 2011

Hilarious. No one fakes feuds better than Shatner!

25. chrisfawkes.com - December 1, 2011

I think Shatner is losing a lot of weight. He is looking younger than he was 3 years ago. Good for him.

Star Trek is def for the more intellectually evolved. We won’t be winning the Trek versus Star Wars agument on numbers for about 100,000 years.

26. Jerry - December 1, 2011

My first love is and always will be Star Trek. I do love Star Was too but Shat is my freakin IDOL!

I hope they keep it friendly though :)

27. alphantrion - December 1, 2011

Come on people don’t take this too seriously. It’s obvious that both Mr Shatner and mrs Fisher have their tongues firmly in their cheeks. Just sit back and enjoy the fun of two great performers.

28. Holger - December 1, 2011

This is good fun!

29. Gordon Ramsey's knife - December 1, 2011

Carrie Fisher..has a good point…and I think shes right

30. Eddie Fisher - December 1, 2011

At least Star Wars doesn’t recycle their special effects shots…

31. chrisfawkes.com - December 1, 2011

Hans Solo was a direct knock off of James Kirk too.

32. chrisfawkes.com - December 1, 2011

@30, True they don’t recycle the effects, just the story.

33. Do You Wanna Dance - December 1, 2011

LOL, I love old people bickering.

34. Jim Nightshade - December 1, 2011

haha amusing—rods trek nation actually asked lucas about trek vs wars–he said he doesnt frequent those kinda web sites–that is merely conjecture n you can say anything u want to support your claims…but wars is more action oriented while trek more intellectual? scifi–and gr said wars is more myth/fairy tale/king arthur like n he said nothing wrong with that kinda storytelling either–cant we all just git along hahah—i agree both shat n carrie firmly have tongues in cheeks..not each others i hope ewwww what a visual—this is great stuff matbe i will go watch fanboys again…

35. William Kirk - December 1, 2011

Shatner is great :-)

36. Horatio - December 1, 2011

This is how I sum up the two fanchises:

I love SW.

I live for Trek.

37. Chain of Command - December 1, 2011

I avoided watching these for a while. Had to today. Whew…….

“Me in my original costume….and you in a bikini….”

LOL.

Sorry, I love Shatner. He just doesn’t care anymore. Nor should he at 80 years of age.

38. Dan Siciliano - December 1, 2011

The Shat still has It. Very Funny Bill…you tell her!

39. Jay - December 1, 2011

I think alot of this is done tongue in cheek by Fisher and Shatner. I don’t think they really believe alot of what they are saying, but are just engaging in fun banter and voicing what other more fantatical people actually believe. I think in a way they are mocking those views.

40. Z3R0B4NG - December 1, 2011

ok… pulling out Jar Jar Binks…

that’s just low

41. CmdrR - December 1, 2011

Chuggin right along until the boobie reference.
This needs roast-level material, not off-the-cuff into the webcam blarfs. If they’re gonna fight.. make it funnier.

42. CmdrR - December 1, 2011

30 & 32 — They recycled both. They blew up the Death Star TWICE.

43. Desstruxion - December 1, 2011

Ron Moore should “reboot” Star Wars.

Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back were great but then came the planet of the Teddy bears. Then Jar Jar. Then who cares? The mythos of Darth Vader was ruined in the prequel. We also should never have seen what Boba Fett looked like under the helmet.

44. Kirk, James T. - December 1, 2011

HAHA

45. Praetor Tal - December 1, 2011

Carrie was brave, trying to match wits with the Shat. Or maybe she just didn’t realize what she was getting into. Under the caricature, the Shat is actually pretty damned smart. Any funny.

46. Let Them Eat Plomeek Soup - December 1, 2011

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….*chokes and dies happy*

47. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - December 1, 2011

Nice. Great responce to fisher

48. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - December 1, 2011

i think the title of this article should have been “THE SHAT STRIKES BACK”

49. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - December 1, 2011

Well. It should have been. Carie Fisher and the Wrath of Shatner.

50. Lt. Bailey - December 1, 2011

I saw this on Shatners web site last night and it was great. He really knows how to handle any battle.

51. Gordon Ramsey's knife - December 1, 2011

I gotta say this….Star Wars video games are better than Treks….

52. PEB - December 1, 2011

Gordon you’re absolutely right (though hopefully Trek’s new 2012 game will start to change that or at least level the playing field…hopefully.)

This is all good fun and they’re both very funny people, Shat and Fisher, BUT in all honesty I think I’ve grown up and I’m over the Star Wars vs Star Trek thing. They’re two different types of story telling and Gene, George, and even Rod put it all in perspective last night in Trek Nation. My brother and I have had many many many arguments about it and it feels good to come to peace with that.

53. Ctrl-Opt-Del - December 1, 2011

Me-ow!!!

54. Eddie Fisher - December 1, 2011

@32 & 42 – Star Trek recycled stories as well. “Nemesis” is the Next Gen version of “Wrath of Khan” and Star Trek 2009 is Trek’s version of Star Wars: A New Hope. Don’t get me wrong, I love both dearly and this truly comes down to a case of apples & oranges, but you have to admit that it took some Star wars spirit to rejuvenate the Star Trek franchise.

55. Capt. Brando - December 1, 2011

119. Capt. Brando – November 17, 2011

What has Carie Fischer done besides Jenny Craig in the last 10 years, oh yea, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, for a scene. Star Wars blows donkey c0ck, and so does Carie Fischer, in Mexico, for money.

56. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 1, 2011

Is Capt Brando talking to himself and being crude as well?

57. Jim Nightshade - December 1, 2011

I believe Carrie F. Was in a scene or two in the classic BLUES BROTHERS movie….remember her with a gun shooting at belushi hahah

58. Jim Nightshade - December 1, 2011

Wasnt postcards from the edge the book and movie her too?

And of course her recent work on family guy is great…

59. Capt. of the U.S.S. Anduril - December 1, 2011

Well, she was kinda asking for it. Shatner wasn’t being vindictive or anything in that first video and she just laid it on thick in her response.

60. VulcanFilmCritic - December 1, 2011

@25 He IS losing weight and his skin looks amazing. Look at those arms, not a wrinkle on them! Poor Mr. Nimoy (close-up) looks like he’s wearing a skin suit that’s two sizes too large.

What exactly is Shatner doing for anti-aging? Sucking the pituitary glands of young virgins? Sleeping upside down like a bat? Getting shots of bull testicles? No plastic surgeon can restore the skin of the arms like that!

Now, if he can just lose the massive gut, he might just have a chance at the next movie. Hey, it’s not so far fetched.

You could open the next movie like “Reds” with the “witnesses” all elderly and in their 80’s and 90’s talking about what being an American communist was like during the Russian Revolution. Except we are now 70 or 80 years in the future of Star Trek. Only why not utilize the existing old crew? Remember this is an alternate universe, so Kirk doesn’t have to die.

First former Admiral Sulu addresses the camera. His hair is snowy white and he’s back-lit At first we think it’s Spock Prime, but when the lights come up, it’s George Takei who talks earnestly about what it was like in the old days. Then Uhura (Nichelle Nichols) and so on, then, the moment you’ve been waiting for, Kirk. And the Shat Man brings down the house.

And then, Spock, only it’s Zachary Quinto, with some aging make-up, as Vulcans don’t age as rapidly, who talks about the old days. Then the camera pans to his left showing an even older Spock Prime, Leonard Nimoy (who’s probably not really retired…really). The two bicker gently, and Quinto Spock says, “You are not unlike my father.” to which Spock Prime sighs and says, “Don’t even go there with me.”

61. Hat Rick - December 2, 2011

I just saw The Shat’s video response.

First of all: Oh. My. God. What the man says is true! (And insulting, but in a comedy-roast kind of way.)

Second of all: Oh. My. God. What the man says is true!

Third of all: God love ya, Bill Shatner! I don’t know what we’d do without you.

Probably watch Star Wars all day…. (And I don’t mean that in a good way.)

62. Basilicious - December 2, 2011

Is it just me, or does Shat’s hair look much thicker than usual in that first video?

63. J.A.G.T. - December 2, 2011

“skinny little Carrie Fisher” oh, Shatner… that was awesome!

64. The quickening - December 2, 2011

#54

And that’s one of the many problems of the ST 12. Hopefully, the next film will capture more the spirit of TOS.

65. Mantastic - December 2, 2011

Once again the fans are taking it waaaaay more seriously than Shatner or Fisher are.

They’re just having some fun. No need to dispense the nerd rage.

66. John from Cincinnati - December 2, 2011

Bill wins…

Carrie is a coke head anyways, what does she know??

67. captain spock - December 2, 2011

gees…. Bill shatner at it again feuding with some one else than george takie.. . would like to see them both on stage dukeing it out one with a phaser the other with a light saberor blaster …

68. Brett Campbell - December 2, 2011

54 & 64 – Agreed. And hopefully we’ll see more of the real Jim Kirk in the next film, instead of a bad-boy Luke Skywalker becoming Jim Kirk. It would have been nice if the film had been directed by a “Trek” fan rather than a “Star Wars” one.

69. Commodore Adams - December 3, 2011

I love both but Star Trek is far better.

70. Sunspot - December 3, 2011

65 – “Once again the fans are taking it waaaaay more seriously than Shatner or Fisher are.

They’re just having some fun. No need to dispense the nerd rage.”

I absolutely agree. These two are just having fun with this phony “fued” poking fun at one another.

The same is true concerning Bill Shatner and George Takei. I think Bill is just having fun poking George with a stick. Unfortunately I think George Takei is serious…

71. darkul - December 3, 2011

To make it clear, even to Shat:
Star Wars is just another version (but with less story) as Lord of the Rings. There is no way to compare ST or SW.
ST is the more realistic, philosophic, scientific display of where humanity could be in future. SW is just a fariy tale in space copied and derived of LotR with just the dfference that Sauron is not Frodo’s father. And which is the better story? Of course, the original. George Lucas always denied the similarities, but they are obvious. It is a theft, nothing more. JRR Tolkien would not like to be treated disrespectful.

Is FX so important? Never. Are ST effects bad. Yes, they were until the movies came out. SW has one more advantage. Because of its nature as a fairy tale, children are easily drawn into the fandom. ST was always the sophisticated try seeming to be scientifically, politically correct and compassionate.

To STXII:
I would like to see a great story, a story which is believable, which has some scientific details in it and is gripping but still ST as is, as was. Best … be true to ST but show something we’ve never seen before. ST should go ahead and show us things where no man has gone before. To put this in a wish for STXII: don’t use a known villain: create something completely new. Why always recycling old ideas?
This would just mean becoming SW ;)

72. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 3, 2011

Star Wars is not copied from LOTR. You are accusing of George Lucas of plagiarism. What you need to understand are the themes that all stories dealing with fantasy, fable, myth have in common.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Myth

http://moongadget.com/origins/myth.html

“Lucas had already written two drafts of Star Wars when he rediscovered Joseph Campbell’s The Hero With a Thousand Faces in 1975 (having read it years before in college). This blueprint for “The Hero’s Journey” gave Lucas the focus he needed to draw his sprawling imaginary universe into a single story.”

73. fansincesixtynine - December 3, 2011

HA HA. Good fun!

74. Bob - December 3, 2011

Fisher looks horrid. Years of booze and drugs has taken it’s toll.

75. Hat Rick - December 4, 2011

Relative to SW, the hero’s journey has always been a major element of many sagas. Excellent point.

Also, I’ve read that there are elements in common with Kurosawa’s Seven Sumurai.

For example, this is reiterated as follows: “Francis Coppola and Steven Spielberg were heavily influenced by Akira Kurosawa’s mastery of pictorial composition and pacing, while George Lucas borrowed many of his mythic themes and archetypes for Star Wars.”

Source: http://thisdistractedglobe.com/2006/03/29/shichinin-no-samurai-1954-aka-seven-samurai/

As an aside, “The Magnificent Seven” has one of the most memorable musical themes this side of … well, there’s no real “this side of” because the movie’s score basically sets the standard for that kind of movie. The credit goes to the late, great Elmer Bernstein (no relation to the late, great Leonard Bernstein).

As another aside, I’ve been listening to music scores lately. Michael Giacchino’s score was incredibly moving to me from the get-go; I listened to the soundtrack even before I saw the movie and it was grand. It just gets better every time you listen to it.

Another perennial favorite is John Williams, of course — a national treasure known not just for his SW soundrack (favorites of which include the opening / closing themes, the Imperial March, and the Duel of the Fates), but also a slew of other great music., including the soundrack to Superman (1978).

Lately I’ve been listening to music by Basil Poledouris, the late, great composer of themes for Robocop (I and III in particular). Leonard Rosenman, who composed the theme for Robocop II, wrote the well-received soundtrack for STIV and, to me, the music in both of them share a lot of motifs.

As a classically trained musician, I obtain a great deal of enjoyment from the wonderful music in many great movies and I am appreciative of the artistry that goes into them.

76. Hat Rick - December 4, 2011

Erratum and clarification: Mr. Poledouris composed a great deal of other music, as well. I mentioned the Robocop movies because I particularly enjoyed his work on them.

77. Chain of Command - December 4, 2011

LOL. Oh, the Star Wars/Star Trek feud.

When I was 6-8 years old I love Star Wars. I had all the toys, posters etc.

Then, around February of 1985, the ABC Network showed “Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan” and I instantly was converted to a Star Trek fan.

I think the argument is stupid, but if I had to chose between the two…..

Star Trek all the way.

78. Hat Rick - December 4, 2011

One of the reasons for that, I think, 77, is that Star Trek is the future of humanity in fictional form, whereas Star War wars is a fictional historical saga somewhere far from Earth. Both have their merits, and I have no qualms stating that the interactions between Obi-Wan and his padawan, Anakin, in the sixth experience, and particularly the scene where the former nearly kills his trusted apprentice, can be profoundly moving. The technological depictions are also quite interesting.

But the idea that Trek is our future in some form is undeniable, and a unique feature of this franchise. It is a positively exhilirating experience to think that in future centuries, my or my family’s descendants, and your or your family’s descendants, might be exploring the universe aboard FTL starships, and it is a source hope, enlightenment, adventure, and fun to climb aboard the Good Ship Star Trek.

First star to the right, and onward until morning.

Let’s see what’s out there… thataway….

79. N - December 5, 2011

I suddenly have a lot of respect for Shatner

80. Tom - December 5, 2011

Some people age better than others, Shatner still looks great, Carrie Fisher, good God! What happened?

Star Wars was just a few movies which George himself must not really like because he keeps tinkering with them ever few years.

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