Lindelof: We’re Working To Make Star Trek Sequel Worth The Wait + Greenwood Talks Trek ‘Family’ January 13, 2012
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek sequel (2013) , trackback
As we reported yesterday, the Star Trek sequel has begun production. Today the LA Times ran an article about the beginning of shooting for the new film with some quotes from co-writer/producer Damon Lindelof and actor Bruce Greenwood (who is back as Admiral Pike). Excerpts below.
Lindelof and Greenwood on Star Trek sequel
The LA Times has a piece today on the start of production of the new Star Trek sequel. There are no new plot details, but it does have a nice quote from co-writer/producer Damon Lindelof who said in part:
"Every single person involved with this movie has the same ambition — to do everything they can to justify the long wait … to live up to the lofty expectations of 40-year ‘Trek’ fans and those who are coming to the party for the first time. The energy is crackling. The warp core is primed. And we are, at long last, ready to boldly go once again. I hope to God we don’t screw it up.”
Lindelof (2nd from left) with rest of Star Trek sequel team (Burk, Abrams, Kurtzman and Orci) – says team is determined to make sequel worth the wait
Actor Bruce Greenwood, who is back as Admiral Pike, is also quoted in the piece talking about the camaraderie shared by the cast:
"I was talking to Anton [Yelchin] the other day and he was saying that they all got together on the bridge a few weeks ago and it was just like no time had passed at all. None. I had dinner with Chris [Pine] a few months ago and he said he couldn’t wait to get back with the gang of people that makes this work. The same with me. They’re wonderful people and the show is like the icing. What’s great is the family. I know it’s an overused term and people roll their eyes but it really feels that way to me.”
Greenwood happy to be back with the "Star Trek" family
See the LA Times story for more, including observations of the cast milling around the Sony lot earlier this week.
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Sounds great guys. I hope you don’t screw it up.
Looking forward to seeing Zoe and April on screen making sweet sweet Trek
Guys truly did a great job reviving the franchise. The only thing they royally screwed up was the Shatner thing. They should make good on that. How bout an endcredit scene or special scene in special feature dvd. Other tha that I dont see them screwing up
Officially getting extremely excited. Can’t wait to see how it unfolds, day by day.
OK, now I’m ‘officially’ excited; it’s really happening.
This cast really made it work; can’t wait to see them in action again. So glad they got Bruce Greenwood back. Just hope he’s not still in the wheelchair flashing binary for yes and no. Pike could be a prime ‘mentor’ figure in this new universe. Not to mention Cumberbatch as the villain (great choice!), Peter Weller and so many others. And even a engine room upgrade (yay; hopefully the Budweiserprize is a thing of the past)!
I’m also very glad and grateful that Bob Orci reads the feedback from the fans on this board (he must be made of really stern stuff, as we ST fans can be a real contradicting pain in the a$$ sometimes). It is unprecedented (to my knowledge anyway) in Star Trek’s history that the writers have actually been in such close communication with the fans like this.
Thanks again, Bob Orci.
Can’t wait for 2013.
The Human Adventure is Just Beginning… ;-)
This screams obvious… Pike (now Kirk’s segregate father, since this Kirk’s father is dead) will die. Thus marking the new Kirks passage into manhood. I wonder if his mother will play a role in this new movie.
I also wonder if they are going to do a James Bond casino royal type thing with Kirk and show him really get into a girl, have her betray him or have him choose to stay with the fleet over her and in that way explain why he remains the single guy sleeping around with all the alien girls. From a character point of view it might be nice to know why any of these characters made the decision (unlike most normal human beings in a military type outfit) to decide never to marry and get out of the service once their time is up. Bones has a reason… he tried marriage and it didn’t work. Scotty loves the enterprise more than women maybe. Spock and Uhura makes sense now. But the rest…
I hope the new people in charge answer some of these questions and treat these characters like real humans who you and I encounter every day and not just as “stock characters” who we never question why they never miss or talk about their family or any other normal feeling your average person would feel put into their situation.
Also, there was a review posted of Trek (2009) on here recently. It pointed out something that’s important. Nero in the 2009 movie didn’t seem like anything but a cheap “black hat” character. But as it turns out if you read the comic books he is a deep and well thought out character but you’d never know if it you didn’t read the comics. I hope they get away from that with this new movie. Give a reason to feel and maybe even root for the “bad guy” in this movie beside a quick few sentences like “oh yeah… Spock because of this negligence destroyed my planet.” Please realize that character development must happen for the “black hats” as well as for our beloved hero’s too in order to make the movie emotionally compelling. And please do it in the movie… not by having us have to dig through books and comics the average person won’t bother with. Bad guys and good guys need to have an arc.
Do you want to not screw it up….don’t remake Khan
Cool Pike will be back! :) A great cast as far as I can tell. Very well done on that.
Hopefully poster Janice knows that Bruce Greenwood is back as Admiral Pike. With him as Pike, I now have my own super 8!
Is that the most recent photo of the Bad Robot production team? Anyway, Bob Orci, you guys look great. What do you mean about not having what you described as your “ugly mug” put on screen again? You all look perfectly presentable. I mean, you’re not Chris Pine but no one is quite as good to look at as Chris Pine, but one could do worse…:)
I think my heart grew three sizes reading that L.A. Times piece. When I’m so excited – even more so than over plot points or set designs – that a bunch of people I’ve never met have been reunited and all seem to be so happy around each other and enthusiastic about this project – that’s when I know something’s truly special. Best wishes, all.
Great to see that they’re developing that “Family” feeling that all the Trek casts had with each other. Especially as this is the first “family” to not have a TV Show where the cast & crew would meet every day on set for seven years. They’ve only done one film together before and it’s nice to see them getting that “family” feel to their personal interactions.
Pike was the best part of ST:09.
Hey, it’s good luck to give the Shephard’s prayer before a project:
“Dear Lord, please don’t let me f*** up…”
—Alan Shephard, Project Mercury
#5 – “And even a engine room upgrade (yay; hopefully the Budweiserprize is a thing of the past)!”
At Scotty’s insistence, the distillery has been given a major upgrade…:)
#6 – “I also wonder if they are going to do a James Bond casino royal type thing with Kirk and show him really get into a girl, have her betray him or have him choose to stay with the fleet over her and in that way explain why he remains the single guy sleeping around with all the alien girls.”
Already been explained in TWOK – Carol Marcus. One of the best things about this alternate universe is that some events don’t have to take place as they did in the prime universe. Carol may not be around to break his heart the way she did in the other universe or this new Kirk realises who she is before he gets her pregnant. It is possible that he could become promiscuous again for a time, until…
Correction: Shepard, not Shephard.
When I think of Bruce Greenwood I will always think of him as the best portrayal of JFK (Thirteen Days).
Ever.
Greenwood is back as Pike! The more I read the more I am happy about this project. Better to take the time and do it right than to throw together something just to get it out!
Hope the bring back the same cast as the last one made. They were PERFECT. Not sure if I will watch if not the rest.
I hope they are comfortable enough to make a movie that takes itself a bit more seriously this time… I know Star Trek of the past has been accused of taking itself “too seriously”, but I’m up for something closer to the opening 8 minutes of the 2009 movie than the other hour and a half. Those few minutes were inspired movie making.
This isn’t to say I didn’t enjoy the humor or the rest of the movie.
Expectations are REALLY high now!!!!!
Hey Bob Orci. No pressure. At this point when trek 09 was getting going we here at trekmovie and all trek fans did not really know what to expect about the new Star Trek movie.So expectation was on a lower level. We watched and looked for any clue we could. The new movie came out and most of us loved it. Now with Trek 13 we all know what to expect and Myself included. we expect mega things from Trek 13. We expect excitement and a great story and lot’s of action and the family that Trek is know for. I am very excited about the new movie and the cast of Actors that have been brought in. So Once again Bob Orci. No pressure.
Damon Lindelof says, “I hope to God, we don’t screw it up.”
Damon, don’t write a scene where the crew meets in a church. And Kirk’s dead father meets his son. He explains they are all dead and they made this universe so they could find each other. Oh, and no polar bears, smoke monsters or surviving a nuclear blast point blank.
yeah, yeah… what are they gonna say? we’re working to make it not suck?
They were not all dead in the Lost Finale .
They were coming from different periods in their lives .
Some were dead , some were not.
Will the next film have a “happy ending” and, if so, does that mean it will be restricted?
What time of day does the next movie take place? Sunrise or sunset?
On an another note will this movie star Dawn Wells (Gilligan’s Island) or Alice Eve?
In other words, will this movie feature the crack of dawn or eve’s full moon?
#26.
LOL!
I’m hoping for eve’s full moon…..and a pair of hooters to boot!
#27
Red Dead Ryan “I’m hoping for eve’s full moon….and a pair of hooters to boot!”
Well, owls DO come out at night!
Well, she could be the Vulcan woman, let’s say T’Schwing, assigned by the Vulcan High Council to mate with Spock… you know, to propagate the species!
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Or on a serious note, since she’s not a character seen before, supposedly. Well, we never saw George Kirk’s wife, Aurelan.
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And Peter Weller could be the CEO of the company that’s building the Deneva Colony. That would explain the need for a “family man”, his wife, and his daughter. And playing off the old long clue from Bob about liking ‘The Mote in God’s Eye’…. maybe this isn’t a retelling of the Immunity Syndrome, but something centering on Deneva years before? Aaargh, even just a character name would be relieving. Since they’re not releasing anything, it must be a previously-known name of a perhaps-not-seen-on-film-before character. If it were something “new” that K/O&L created, there’d be no biggie in releasing a name.
Unfortunately, as the producers didn’t cast Olivia Wilde, there’s no chance of seeing any “Wilde-ass”!
Bummer!
Okay, I forgot that Op: Annihilate had an actress for Aurelan. Anyway, some sort of good/bad combo first contact with a non-human but biological intelligence still seems a Mote-like idea. If the spores of Immunity Syndrome were intelligent… and one form… and the flying parasites another….
If you make me cry again boborci there will be hell to pay :)
24
Gary says, “They were not all dead in the Lost Finale.” .
I’m talking about “Sideways World.” “Sideways World’ is a limbo. Everybody there is dead. The way the afterlife works is that if you die before your child, you’ll see your child. Time has no meaning. Remember Jack’s father and Jack’s conversation in the Church? Look at the lines below:
Jack :They’re all dead?
Christian: Everyone dies sometime. Some of them before you, some of them long after you.
Jack: Why are they here now?
Christian: There is no now, here.
Jack: Where are we now? Christian: This is a place that you all made together so you could find one another.
(The last line was just contrived and ludicrous.)
Here’s a quote from Wikipedia on “Lost.” (Link)
“The series finale reveals that the flash-sideways timeline is actually a form of limbo, where some of the survivors and other characters from the island are reunited after having died because their time on the island had been the most important part of their existence. In the end the survivors are all reunited in a church where they “move on” together.”
I liked the first five seasons of Lost. But then season six hit. Now it’s become “The Ghost Whisperer.” The finale was contrived and saccharin. Lost is not an exception to bad final seasons. There are TV series that do not have good final seasons. See “The X Files.” Heck, Star Trek: The Next Generation’s last season wasn’t that good.
Link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_(TV_series)#Overview
I get lost in all the Trek minutiae sometimes. The bottom line is that everyone involved seems to like the project tremendously, and in show biz, that’s half the battle. You tend to put your best efforts into doing what you like.
All too often among the Hollywood crowd, I’ve read about stars’ prima donna egos and antics derailing what otherwise could have been a great movie. I trust that these stars, this Trek family, won’t suffer from such indignities.
I am so stoked!
Where does that image of the Enterprise come from on the upper right of this article? I’d love to have a poster of that!
Wonder if Trek will be 3D’s last hurrah….
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2086535/Movie-fans-fed-3D-cinema-prices-opt-traditional-2D-screenings.html
And the problem with seeing the 2D version is you’ll be distracted by all the parts that will have been so obviously shot with 3D in mind.
I’d rather they didn’t bother.
Yes Lindelof I also hope you don’t screw it up. As Star Trek XII will be the make or break one for this team.
Both keeping the momentum of the last movie and keeping the fans happy are things that will keep it big.
I know this particular article doesn’t say it, but Anthony, as a fellow Star Trek fan, I would like to respectfully request that you stop calling the next Star Trek movie Star Trek 2. There already was a second Star Trek film. It was called Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan. If it’s not too much to ask that at least here on this site you call it Star Trek 12 or the twelfth Star Trek film. It would be greatly appreciated not only by myself, but fellow Trekkies/Trekkers who view this site.
Many thanks
38. Captain Conrad
As a Trekker for 40 years, I disagree. Please don’t attempt to represent your view as that of all fans! This is an entirely new series of films. With a new team, a new cast and even a new timeline. Star Trek 2 is the appropriate way to refer to this film until it’s actual title is known.
#39 don’t try to represent your view as that of all fans. The appropriate way to refer to this film is obviously 2.0. ;-)
# 38-40
Have a vote maybe?
The only type of 3d that will take off has not been realised yet – a floating 2d screen hovering in front of me instead of holding a tablet or watching an lcd screen… shop signs that fly out of the storefront and hover up and down over shoppers… traffic signs that float over the road, move and animate based on driving conditions.
3d will only work as holograms – basically what you saw in Back to the Future 2.
Holographic 3D will lend itself better to other applications, rather than movies.
Essentially a dramatic movie in holographic 3d would have to be within a holodeck environment or maybe a circular theatre.
But I’m sorry Hollywood, you are barking up the wrong tree – you always were.
Avatar was a unique spectacle which ushered in the fad. And Hugo was a beautiful love letter which I hope signify the end of the fad.
Throw your effort into holographic R&D.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – if I cant walk around it, it aint 3d.
can’t wait for the next film this is going to be awesome :)
38-40
What annoys me about the new movie as Star Trek 2 is that it makes the mainstream seem unaware that there already is a Star Trek II.
It annoys me but I guess the fact that the Abrams movies are out of canon with the rest of Trek then it prob makes sense but I think the movie will follow the Next Gen movie style of titling
38, 39, 40, 41 & 44
We should check with MONGO on this.
He’ll know.
YESSS! Bruce Greenwood is back!!
Now, all I ask for is an Admiral Archer (or other ST:ENT) cameo and we’re good ;)
Wonderful to have Bruce Greenwood back as Pike, but I hope he doesn’t have to become truly disabled in order to heal some raveled timeline or that he doesn’t have to die in order to impart some kind of dramatic impact.
I heard the rumors swirling around ST II:TWOK before it opened, and I sat there watching the movie with knots in my stomach waiting for Spock to die. So I didn’t enjoy the movie as much as I should have.
There is only one way this movie can be screwed up and that is to allow any leaks of plot to the fan-”boys” and fan-”girls” out there (myself included) who will make mincemeat of the story months before the big reveal. I want to walk into this movie and be as astonished as I was with the first. So even if we (myself included) beg, scream, and plead for crumbs of information regarding the plot, STARVE US. Thanks.
One thing that is really starting to annoy me is the fact that so many people here have chosen to ignore the fact that Bob Orci and the rest of the Supreme Court have said outright that the story of this movie is NOT a rehash or remake or reimagining of an existing Trek episode. This new film will have an original story that hopefully has the ability to bring something new to the 45-year old franchise we all love.
In closing, the story is NEW!
Why not have
Star Trek
something here
Something like that which was done with the TNG films. Seems like it would work to me.
Maybe they will just call it, Boldy Go
They have also confirmed that it will be called “Star Trek: (subtitle)”.
Star Trek: Electric Boogaloo
Rambo: Star Trek Part II
Live Free or Star Trek
2 Star 2 Trek
And just so I don’t get SOPA’d:
http://www.eonline.com/photos/gallery.jsp?galleryUUID=2570#98333
If Trek is a family, I guess I’m the crazy cousin. But, I’ll be at the picnic next year.
#44 seriously, you get annoyed by that? To be honest who really care’s what they call it.
Awesome!! This is going to be a great year for Trek news! I can just feel it! :) So glad Pike will be back,wonder if hes still gonna be in the wheel chair? I don’t guess you would tell us that would you Mr.Bob Orci? :)
#52, hahahaha! Very funny!
SO HAPPY that Bruce Greenwood is back as PIKE. That fact alone will make the movie for me. I read the LA Times article and he had some really nice things to say. It’s easy to see he’s glad to be back with his Star Trek “family”.
Looking forward to reading all the sequel news at this trekmovie site.
@boborci
Hey Bob,
good luck with the production. And I have a request as well: Please do not tell us anything about the sequel. I don’t want to know anything. I don’t want to get spoiled. I really want to be surprised by your movie when I sit in the cinema. Every information I get before the release leads to the reaction, ” oh, I have known this long before” when sitting in the cinema. And because I am curious I will read every information which I can get from the internet.
So please, tell us nothing! ;-)
Stephan
PS: Ok, maybe you can give us a title two days before the release date.
I understand a certain level of discretion must be had with all films, but I’m not a fan of this type of complete and total secrecy surrounding a film. I like to be teased with tidbits and “long-lensed” photos coming onto the web and I know a lot of other people do as well. I just think that it’s unnecessary to have such a massive security operation in force for it, because at the end of the day, it’s only a Star Trek film. With movies like “The Dark Knight Rises”, I can understand their wish to keep the story secret because those movies are a trilogy with a running theme and story and especially with TDKR, as this is the massive conclusion to the Nolan-verse Batman franchise.
I see it being as simple as this: if you wish to know nothing about the film, just don’t read anything about it, especially if the thread has “Spoilers” written on it.
#25
“Will the next film have a “happy ending” and, if so, does that mean it will be restricted?”
OK, so who leaked the plot that the movie is about Orion Slave Girl Massage Therapists?”
“I hope to God we don’t screw it up (again)”
Possible names for Trek Movie.
Star Trek. The Gorn Idenity.
Star Trek. The Gorn Ultimatium.
Star Trek. Attack of the Gorn.
Star Trek. CaliGornification.
Star Trek. Star Trek.
Star Trek. The Ulitimate Doomsday Machine.
Star Trek. Reassignment Earth.
Star Trek. Broken Mirrior.
Star Trek. The Bob Orci Experience.
Star Trek. Bob Orcis Enterprise.
Pike is in the new one. That is great news.
What I’d like to see, and this is a “40-year “Trek’ fan” talking, is less walking on eggshells from the creative team and more “Tchutspah” coming out of the gate on this new one.
You will not ’screw it up.’ Trek has been ’screwed up’ many times, yet always lands on its feet. In my opinion, the team has shown it’s capable of doing a wonderful job from opening credits to DVD extras. Just keep up the good work.
I wonder if they will explore strange new world and seek out new civilizations, or will they continue with the last premise…… To implode strange new worlds, to destroy old civilizations, and to boldly shoot and destroy a romulan ship that was already being destroyed by a black hole.
This movie will be as un-Star Trek as the first one.
#65. As a Very Hard Core Fan. You are Wrong. The First Trek was about Family and coming together. yes there were a couple of things that I did not care about. But overall Trek 2009 stayed true to Star Trek.
Hey AJ. You are right. Trek Insurrection and Nemisis and the first 2 seasons of Enterprise were not Treks best. But with Dr. McCoys Infusion of some fresh blood. Trek 2009 and the new one are getting Star Trek healthy again.
Where are the pictures of that moment at Sony lot?… I NEED to see the photos!!!… PLEASE!!!…
Hi Mr. Bob Orci… PLEASE!!!……….:-) ;-)
66 – Nope, an opinion isn’t wrong.
I think Pike is aboard the USS Pascale when it gets captured by
Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnn!!!!!!!!
#69. As Scotty said. Everyone is Entitled to an Opnion.
#36
It isn’t being shot in 3D, it’s being converted to 3D afterward. So I don’t think you’ll have to worry about any ‘obviously for 3D’ scenes.
Mike,
Trek’s lowest point was “V.” It was a hard, steaming turd on the sidewalk.
Trek recovered on the strength of TNG. Thank Goodness.
If I had to compare ST09 to “Star Trek V,” you get the classic “shit vs. shinola” argument. Abrams’s “Trek” is top-loaded with Hollywood talent, and he is a thoughtful and talented writer/producer/director. Shatner was/is a great actor. He hired an FX company in Hoboken, NJ for Star Trek V. “Nuff said.
#69
If an opinion can’t be wrong, but #66’s opinion is that your opinion is wrong, then I’m afraid we’ve created some sort of paradox that is sure to destroy the very fabric of reality.
Still heaping praise and optimism on Abrams and Co….Will be the same overblown, shaky cam crap as the other one. NOT Star Trek…just random crapola with the name attached. All this bootlicking is sickening.
About time
48.
Not polite to polite to put your own words in someone else’s mouth.
75.
Just how many IP addresses do you have?
@73. I don’t know, Trek 7 (Generations) was pretty bad, and 9 was not much of an improvement. Regardless of how one feels about Shatner, there is enough evidence out there that suggests that at least part of the blame for how bad 5 was lies at the feet of the studio.
@77. 48 may be paraphrasing a bit, but that’s what I get from the production team, too. A stand alone story, with no TOS characters (outside of the established seven). The writers had plenty of time, and I’m going to be really dissapointed if the best they can come up with is some rehash of “Balance of Terror” Space Seed”, or Trouble with Tribbles”…or any other episode.
Are they still looking for place for filming the jungle scenes? The Los Angeles County Arboretum in Arcadia is where they filmed the opening scenes for Fantasy Island.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX-pVhTZg0U (just “Da PLane! Da plane!” part.)
LACA: http://www.arboretum.org/index.php/explore/historic_structures/ There various kinds of biomes there.
60.
Me likey!
“yeah, hold the waxing and give me a tug and finish!”
#50
I seem to remember a teacher at school saying to boldly go was incorrect use of the language, shouldn’t it be Go Boldly?
@78
Also coincided with the third Indiana Jones (the best in my opinion) and the last Back To The Future I believe. The story is slightly weak, I blame it equally on Shatners control freakism (don’t get me wrong, I love the Shat but I have to admit hes jealousy at Nimoy directing two very good Trek movies was evident when he demanded to have the fifth) and also the studio as you rightly said.
Boldly Go!
73 – Ralph Winter has taken public ownership of that decision to not go with ILM.
82 – That is an antiquated grammatical fallacy – Boldy Go is just fine in modern language rules.
Star Trek 5 had some good moment’s. There was some nice Dialog with the big 3. But. In the end. it was just not enough. Trek 6. Was one of the best.
81.
Subplot would be Cyrano Jones opens a new galactic trading post. He intro’s the galaxy to an ultra low freq., vibrating tribble that double a loofer.
There’s gotta be a market for that!
#69.
An opinion can be wrong or right, when compared to the facts. The facts prove that “Star Trek” is the most financially and critically successful film in the franchise.
Therefore, your opinion is wrong, and invalid on the basis of the truth, which in your case, evidently hurts a lot.
As far as the FX for Star Trek V goes its my understanding is that at the time of production ILM was basically totally booked solid with other projects and couldnt do it.
As far as the FX company that was hired to do it, I do think Winters admited that was mostly his call. So that may not have been Shatners “mess up” per say, but who knows.
Conrad,
When has this site ever used “Star Trek 2″ ?
I know the Shat a few years back talked to the studio about redoing the FX in Trek 5 and even offered his own money. But the Studio for some reason would not let him. If they would redo the FX in Trek 5 like they did with TMP. That would make it a little better.
Hey Anthony. I don’t ever remember this site calling the next movie Trek 2. Maybe Trek12 or now Trek13. Maybe Conrad was thinking about the Ghostbuster with the 2 fingers.
Hate to break it to you, Captain Realistic, but none of the movies “explored strange new world or sought out new civilizations”. They carried characters in from known TV franchises, and pretty much stuck to the formula of Kirk/Picard and Crew overcome the odds to defeat the intentions of some bad guy/machine/supreme being to save earth/Federation/civilians.
#86 just goes to show how long ago i was at school!
Again, I don’t see the problem if the production team decide to use the Arabic numeral “2″ as part of the title. It’s more for visual purposes, on theatre posters, dvd covers, etc., to distinguish it from the TNG films. There will be a subtitle to set it apart. People generally refer to “Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan” as TWOK, or “Wrath Of Khan” more so than “Star Trek II” anyway.
I really doubt that TWOK will be forgotten if the team decides to add a “2″ to the sequel. The new movies don’t have any direct connection to the prior ones except the “Countdown” comic and Spock Prime so using Arabic numerals does make sense. “Star Trek” is the FIRST movie of a new prequel series that take place long before the prior ten, and before/during the prime universe TOS.
Hey Phil. I agree. Even in Tos most of the time they were doing patrol or takeing care of Intruders or getting into with the Klingons or Romulans or Tholians or Trelane or a Dommsday Machine or Gorn or a Computer or feerying a Dohlman or Ambasodors. A few eps they did. Tng did the same. But most of the time. Just your goold ole fashened baddy.
94… Well, the Genesis planet in Star Trek III was a brand spankin’ new planet…
#98. Actually. It was Born in Trek 2 and Died in Trek 3.
#95
Buzz, the “split infinitive” rule (sounds like a movie title, doesn’t it?) appears to have been dropped by most English teachers—at least that’s what I’ve read. I can remember my teachers going over the rule in the mid to late ’90s though. Maybe they were some of the holdouts.
I wish the same would happen to the don’t end a sentence with a preposition rule, too. Supposedly, Winston Churchill said of it:
“From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.”
I agree!
God speed team. Make us fans proud to support this phenomenon called Star Trek!
I knew I would like the Star Trek reboot,but I was disappointed that I didn’t either hear his name or see JIM KIRK’s OLDER BROTHER GEORGE SAMUEL “SAM” KIRK[ mentioned( along with his 3 SONS ) in "What Are Little Girls Made Of ?" and then seen as a body in "OPERATION--ANNIHILATE!" with his wife AURELAN KIRK( who died ) and son PETER KIRK( I assume his OTHER 2 BROTHERS were off Planet either visiting Grandparents or Off-World University or STARFLEET ACADEMY ]. The only way he doesn’t exist in this version of STAR TREK is if this isn’t an ALTERED TIMELINE but an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE where GEORGE SAMUEL “SAM” KIRK wasn’t born. On another matter I WOULD FINALLY LIKE TO SEE TRUE ANDROIDS IN SCIENCE FICTION instead of ROBOTS like DATA,LORE,”WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF ?,REQUIEM FOR METHUSELAH, I,MUDD,ROMMIE( Gene Roddenberry’s Andromeda ). ANDROIDS[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.U.R. ] are KISSING COUSINS TO CLONES( meaning BIOLOGICAL BEINGS THAT YOU GROW(Karel Capek’s “Robots” aren’t Robots but CHEMICALLY CREATED ANDROIDS ),while ROBOTS like DATA,LORE,ROMMIE,DR. ROGER KORBY,DR. BROWN,ANDREA,ROC,RAYNA KAPEC,NORMAN-1,STELLA MUDD-1 to 500,ALICES,TRUDYS,HERMANS,OSCARS,ANABELLES,BARBARAS & MAISYS are all MECHANICAL BEINGS —-making them ROBOTS. I would tell this to J.J. Abrams if I knew where to contact him or the FRINGE TV series.
@57 @64 Can we keep Pike in the picture forever? Bruce Greenwood is just so compelling. As an admiral or a commanding officer or whatever.
I’ve been watching some of the old TOS episodes and it has occurred to me that what sold the show was the chemistry and just plain likability of the lead actors, especially Shatner and Nimoy. No script, no matter how clever, could overcome a lack of charisma on the part of the actors. Bruce Greenwood just has it, too. It would be a shame to waste it.
#103
Yes!
Bruce Greenwood is truly captivating – all disbelief just disappears when he is on screen. A great actor. He brings a high level of quality to the franchise.
Character-wise, there is an abundance of dramatic potential yet to be mined between Kirk (the rule-breaker) and Pike (the ranking officer who was responsible for bringing him into Starfleet,).
If you think about it, Pike probably still has some deep-seated attachment to the Enterprise, whether he can admit it to himself or not. (Perhaps not all that different from Admiral Kirk’s feelings of loss for his old command in the alternate U).
This presents some exciting potential for tension and conflict (in a good way) between the good guys (exacerbated of course in times of greatest danger).
Greenwood (as Pike) is a sharp, well focused foil for defining Kirk. I hope he can be kept on as well.
Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto have those similar likeable qualities that Shatner and Nimoy have. Chris Pine is good to watch, not just because he is nice looking, but for other qualities, even if he is playing someone who is meant to be rough, a so-n-so – like Brian in Carriers or Darwin Tremor in Smokin’ Aces. Zachary comes across as being a talkative, gentle man (see a commercial he and a lady friend made appealing to people to adopt a homeless dog).
I would second the motion that Bruce Greenwood be seconded into the permanent cast.
His Pike is the kind of guy you want with you in a firefight, the kind of guy you’d want to have a beer with, and a great commanding officer.
Bob, don’t kill him, please.
@BobOrci
Congrads on the first couple of days on production…….
I know everything is tighter than Fort Knox, but can you at least answer this question, “Does this story (sequel) end with a story arc leading into another sequel? Or will be another stand alone story much like the previous one?”
Thanks in advance…and God Speed!!!!!!!
This is nice. I might comment more later.
98.. Kirk and Crew overcome the odds to defeat bad Klingon to save Spock. A shame, considering the story could have been an espionage thriller about the Genisis device or more of a drama on the unintended consequences of science without ethics….but hey, we got what we got.
102….ummmm, okay?
105. Would not know, have never met either. Considering that Shatner seems to be a p***k in real life, we have no way of knowing if CP and ZQ are warm and fuzzy in real life. At least they avoid the problems that would get them featured on TMZ,,,
@29: Daoud: That’s what I’ve been saying! The fact that no character names or description have been released leads me to believe they are based on TOS characters! Otherwise, they could easily give a character roster! Nero’s name was released before production began on the last one. Super 8 character names were also readily available before shooting started on that film.
Yeah, Bob, we know the entire bridge crew are based on TOS characters, but I’m thinking so are some of the new cast members.
To BobOrci
Gratz on getting things going mate. GL to you all. ;)
Can someone explain to me what Simon Pegg wanted to say on twitter with … “Solo/Kirk shot was official but brad bird …”
… a lot of puzzles to be deciphered on twitter these days …:-) :-)
@110. Well any ship is going to have one captain, and one executive officer. Communications, weapons, navigation, medical, etc.. all run in shifts so there is room plenty senior officers who may have some command function on a ship. It’s unlikely medical and engineering would be bridge positions, but I’ll defer to the navy guys here.
What if Admiral Pike became the bad guy in the sequel and Kirk had to go up against his former mentor?
“Already been explained in TWOK – Carol Marcus. One of the best things about this alternate universe is that some events don’t have to take place as they did in the prime universe. Carol may not be around to break his heart the way she did in the other universe or this new Kirk realises who she is before he gets her pregnant. It is possible that he could become promiscuous again for a time, until…”
Fair enough theroy. Except the Carol Marcus relationship was sometime before TOS — David was in his 20s in Trek II and Space Seed had been 15 years before — so his TOS encounters with various lady-friends were either during or, more likely, after the relationship, but not before. And, it sounds like David, as a kid, possibly knew Kirk in some capacity — “Remember that overgrown boy scout you used to hang around with?’ Did she break his heart? Maybe. Was it mutual? Unknown. “…the danger of reopening old wounds.” But he agreed back then to not take part in David’s life. “I did what you wanted, I stayed away” Marcus knew Spock, or at least had met him, but was it from when she and Kirk were together, or later (were they amicable for years? or were they still in some sort of relationship while he was off on duty? — “were you around, were you going to be?’ Were they jiust friends by then?)? Does it really matter? Not so much.
That said, I’m really hoping against a Bond-girl explanation for Kirk’s women issues. If he has any. What promiscuity? Can he be a ladies man without being called promiscuous? He wasn’t trolling federation dating sites. Isn’t part of it just that he’s exploring deep space and can’t, apparently, bring a wife with him? None of the characters had lasting relationships — that we saw. He had relationships but the series was pretty clear that he had chosen a life without the possibility of a wife-and-kids (in the new universe it could be because of what happeend to his dad). I’m just not a fan of these simplistic “explain the moment where Kirk decided not to…” plots. It could be cumulative. We know he lost all sorts of people in TOS, in the past (failed romances, murdered friends, lost crewmates and colleagues, and combinations of the above). And, yeah, maybe it just is practicality — a ship’s Captain far away from home has some obstacles to a healthy relationship (especially one on-ship).
That, and, it’s always tough for the hero to have a girl. See: all superheroes, the James Bond movies, most action movies.
But the Girl-Who-Seduces-And-Betrays-Our-Hero is in almost every action movie ever (sometimes she meets a fitting end, sometimes she reconsiders and sacrifices herself to save him because she really loves him, sometimes they end up together…. until the next sequel), well, except those that don’t have the Damsel in Distress or the Girl who Makes our Hero choose. Sometimes they’re all the same character.
I liked Marcus because, probably mostly in how it wasplayed, she didn’t come across as a plot device or a stock Old Flame/Love Interest
If it is like their Transformers 2 script or cowboys and aliens we are screwed.
#116,LaSalle,Some of us liked ‘Cowboys and Aliens’! I happed to be one of those people;and will therefore stand up for that script!!
Yeah! Pike is Back!
… Hey JJ! Can you at least release the Official Title of the new Star Trek Movie?
Cowboys and aliens was pure trash, let’s not deny reality here. Let’s hope they actually try this time.
100. Vultan – January 14, 2012
“Buzz, the “split infinitive” rule…appears to have been dropped by most English teachers…I wish the same would happen to the don’t end a sentence with a preposition rule, too. Supposedly, Winston Churchill said of it: ‘From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.’”
That line still makes me laugh–and I thought it was the wit of the “Cheers” writers who gave the line to Kirstie Alley (”Rebecca”).
I can relate, Buzz. English is a difficult, evolving language. Most grammar & syntax rules serve the purpose of helping us speak and write effectively (a few were only ever hoity toity). There are exceptions to rules, of course–as when they impede clarity or expression:)
Anyone though of Cumberbatch being Pikes first officer who betrays and kills him, takes his ship and goes on a rampage working for Wellers character?
#115 – “What promiscuity? Can he be a ladies man without being called promiscuous? He wasn’t trolling federation dating sites. Isn’t part of it just that he’s exploring deep space and can’t, apparently, bring a wife with him?”
I agree. I have often asked the question of how was or how often was Kirk actually promiscuous in the TOS and TV film series. Many people, here and on other sites, see Kirk as promiscuous, as in somebody who is always getting the women and sleeping with them. Someone even referred to the TOS Kirk as a male slut. I think that a mythology/mystique has been built up around the character’s Kirk supposed sexual escapades. Frankly, God help him if he were a real person.
Well, apparently, in the TOS TV series, it seemed that he could not have/bring a wife with him. However, it is not clear whether that was because he did not have a wife or was not allowed to bring her anyway by reason of some Starfleet regulation. I wonder where this alternate universe’s Starfleet regulations stand on this issue.
Bob Orci?
Occasionally he would be in a situation where the occurence of a casual sexual liaison was very likely – Bread and Circuses, Elaan of Troyius and The Wink of an Eye, otherwise I cannot think of any others. There was flirtation but not much more.
I liked Cowboys & Aliens but not as much as Star Trek.
Not a fan of “Cowboys & Aliens”. The first two “Transformers” films were no good either.
Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman seem to put out their best work with J.J Abrams. “Star Trek” and “Fringe” are two examples.
Bob and Alex without J.J are like Spock and McCoy without Kirk.
122. Yeah. From the beginning, he was written as a character who had made this choice to forgo a normal family life (The Naked Time). And, in the first season, he didn’t have that many encounters. Maybe later on they (or the network, the actor, or whoever) made a decision to get him necking somebody in every third episode… or maybe it just kind of happened. And it *was* the late 60s.
But the character didn’t start out that way, I’d argue. He was charming, but…
I’ve said before that inserting a love interest as motivator can be easy/lazy storytelling — it doesn’t have to be — but there were cases where they threw in a love-interest-of-the-week to make that week’s story work. So there were all these (yes, not as many as we think) girls. Thus this idea that Kirk was a skirt chaser.
But, yeah, that kind of became true by the time the thing was over…
At long last…we are only a year plus away from a new movie. Glad they’re shooting, but movie fun with Star Trek is still a long way off.
Gotta ask – did anyone here see MI4: Ghost Protocol? Did the scene with Ethan Hunt chasing the bad guy in the sandstorm bring TWOK to mind? The visuals, sound effects and even the Federation-looking symbols on Hunt’s handheld tracking device made me think of Chekov and Terrell searching for life signs on Ceti Alpha V.
Was someone having a little fun with Trek in the middle of MI4?
Yay!! I can’t wait! Im really excited. I can’t wait for the movie OR the eventual tie-in stuff like novels and blueprint books and tech manuals and all of that other stuff I loved so much with Trek 1.0.
I am very exited, too. I am very interested in the first teaser-trailer. last time it was that great and mysterious “godspeed, john glenn” trailer. what will it be this time?
Finally, I’m so excited! I recently rewatched Star Trek XI after a long time and I loved it even more! I can’t wait to see what’s next for my favorite characters!
75. Stanky
Welcome back (I think?)! Hadn’t you said way back when that you weren’t going to see it? Did you finally give in? That would leave Shatner as the only one who hasn’t seen the film. : D
They did an AMAZING job on the last one, just watched it again tonight! ALL the characters were so perfect….I grew up on this show!!! Can’t wait to see the new one!!!
I like that the head honchos realize this is no ordinary movie for us fans…that we place more importance on our franchise and they do not want to disappoint us…or the new audience either…this is a good place to be…
Re olivia wilde..yum…look up her new peta promotion..she has a perfect body…perfect…..
Cant wait for new tron movie hopefully with her in it..id sure like to peta her perfect body…
Damn i was wrong…not olivia wilde doing the peta promotion..its olivia munn….still a very perfect body….
I thought it was wilde cuz she is also vegetarian n supports peta…maybe she will be next haha
Me too, Me too!! I want Pike to be a member of the permanent cast and to be in all future Trek movies. As a Bruce Greenwood /Pike fan, i’d love that!
I’m so glad Bruce Greenwood is back! Will Admiral Pike still be in the wheelchair? Beep once for yes, twice for no.
All, It is now clear that Talos IV and Talosians will be back. Excellent story. I think the new villain is also Gary Mitchell. Kirk gets Pike back to Talos IV and gets help from our Talosian friends to help defeat Gary Mitchell. What makes this even better is no Khan. I do think the Klingons will be involved because Gary Mitchell will have something to do with it. It should be fun over the next 18 months. Good Luck to everyone and make this best film yet
I really do hope Bob spills the beans to us newbie writers on the process of writing Star Trek “2″. How they came up with a story ect.
I’m sure it would be interesting.
Well, Pike’s return is the best news I have heard about the film so far. He was my favourite thing about the film, and his Gravitas explained why Spock held him in such high regard. I am very happy about this :-)
126. Heh. Yeah, I was wondering if that was intentional, but, yeah.
I also wondered if people would still be on the roads if a sandstorm was coming (the other people, when it first started, I mean, not our heroes) — would they have warning it was coming? Wouldn’t those plastic chairs Hunt runs past be flying around? Made me curious about real sandstorms.
I keep raving about that film (MI4… MI:4? M.I.:4?) — one of my favourites of this past year (along with A Dangerous Method, Tree of Life, Take Shelter (maybe) and a few others). It wasn’t perfect (nothing is), but it sure worked pretty darned well — and it’s one of those few films you can watch multiple times and still enjoy (with minimal-to-no fast-forwarding through weak scenes [like, say, Nero interrogating Pike in a dim, dingy room on a dingy ship, or Soran interrogating Geordi in a dim, dingy room on a dingy ship]). I was happy that they kept the angst mostly to a minimum (MI3 was good, and better than MI2, but it seemed more like an extended episode of Alias than a movie [lots of characters we're told Ethan's previously worked with or was close to, a new love interest etc... but all the emotional stuff kind of felt artificial and forced/calculated]… although the locations were pretty terrific). I get the desire to make Ethan Hunt a more rounded character, but, really, I don’t give a darn about his emotional life (or Tom Cruise’s). I want to see him do impossible shit. But, no, MI:4 handled this pretty well.
But MI:4 was pretty great, and did a decent job of managing the love interest stuff from the previous flick with relatively minimal melodrama (but still a little). The first time I saw it, I hated that last scene — but minded it less the next couple times I watched.
I guess that’s what I’m worried about in this next Trek — melodrama. Hence my concerns about inserting an unnecessary love-interest for Kirk/ a romantic subplot (a la Transformers/ every movie ever). Avatar was a romance, full of Pokahontas etc. cliches with an obvious eco message and a black vs. white, good-guy vs. bad guy/nature vs. consumerism/innocence vs. experience/ capitalism vs. socialism plot (all without much grey) and it would have been hard to watch without the animation (but it was a heck of a ride). I hope the next Trek is fun and watchable but not standard action movie fare. I also hope it’s smart without being preachy/clunky/lame (yet another dig at the “Star Trek is about allegories and today’s issues!” views on here).
#139 – “Hence my concerns about inserting an unnecessary love-interest for Kirk/ a romantic subplot”
Perhaps, to you, the love-interest is unnecessary, but not necessarily to James Kirk.
We know that Kirk can lead people and is fair, can make sound and often off-the-wall decisions, has a knack for strategy and is a good poker player. We know that he believes in the Prime Directive, even if at times, the strict rule of the Prime Directive may be difficult, if not impossible, to uphold. However, the character is more than that and always has been. He is not Ethan Hunt and never has been.
Here’s an interesting thought that just came to me. How do you create a lot of difficulty personally for Kirk in the sequel. Well, if you have the villian (Cumberbatch) kill off Pike, that would certainly create both sadness and a desire for revenge for Kirk, wouldn’t it?
It’s nice to hear that the cast gelled so well after just one movie, hope they have even more fun making the sequel!
@75: Stanky, you’re back! We didn’t miss you.
MJ – Please do not upset Janice, there’s a good chap…
You would have Kirk lose both his father and his father-figure mentor. I don’t think so. Besides, the writers have not clarified whether Kirk’s mother is actually still alive. To quote a young Spock – “No. Not this time.”
Bob Orci – Is Winona Kirk still alive? Please – let us know in the next movie.
Anyway, I do not like seeing “my captain’s” heart broken that many times…makes me sad.
#141.
I’d like to see an end to the revenge theme for the next hundred years or so.
There’s so many revenge-themed movies out right now, plus the last five Trek films plus TWOK dealt with vengeance in various forms anyway.
That’s six out out of eleven. Time for something different!
Oops, that would be the past FOUR movies, and five total that dealt with revenge.
By you know Orci and company — those action-revenge screenplays are the kind of stuff they write. We are not going to get ST-TMP sci-fi from these guys.
#139
Yes, MI4 was really good. I’m not normally a fan of the over-the-top action stuff happening every few seconds for 2 hours, but MI4 didn’t take itself too seriously and injected a nice bit of humor into the most absurd of situations and happenings. Of course, Simon Pegg had a lot to do with that, but I too liked Cruise in this movie – even with the heavy handed emotional scenes.
JJ and company have a real touch for entertaining without getting carried away and losing site of the audience perspective.
You know… I hated Lost. I hated Alias. I hated Cloverfield. I hated all the Transformer movies. Star Trek 2009 wasn’t horrible, but neither was is very good. I think I’ll just pass on the next one and save myself the disappointment.
#148 – Good for you. Now, run along now!
148.
Yeah, don’t let the door hit you on your behind.
#48, #49
Ha! I didn’t realize you guys / girls had staked out this part of the internet. Sorry, didn’t mean to offend anyone. I was just trying to write something about my hopes for the next movie when I realized the futility of it all. You may resume fan-wanking now.
@150 “Yeah, don’t let the door hit you on your behind.” Well said!
Actually, troll (@148), I hope the door hits you hard in the behind as you exit.
The problem, Michael, is that we have heard it all before. You start off being negative about everything to do with what JJ Abrams or any of the writers, Orci and Kurtzman, have done and then you say you won’t bother seeing the next movie. What are we supposed to think especially when posts like yours have unfortunately become such cliches? I mean, why are you here? Your first post was not about your hopes nor was it constructive.
Then you accuse people of fan-wanking. I hardly think that some of the discussions/debates had on these threads about various aspects of any and all of Star Trek so far could be described as simply fan-wanking. Unless, of course, you have this notion that by being a Star Trek fan automatically makes that fan a wanker. Most people, I suspect, would consider that notion to be an insult.
#151.
GET THE HELL OFF THIS SITE NOW!
And if you’re walking through sliding doors, I just hope your inflated head doesn’t get jammed!
@141: Kirk motivated in the first film by the actions of the man who murdered his father…. so Kirk motivated in the second film by the actions of the man who murdered the man who’d become a substitute father figure (a guy who’d written a dissertation on George Kirk, Sr. even!). Yes, that could work!
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Perhaps in keeping with the flavor of the Multiple Worlds interpretation of QM, that universes have a way of re-aligning…. of course Pike wouldn’t be killed, he’d be horribly scarred and able to only communicate with a blink. The official cover story would be he saved a crew of cadets when a baffle plate gave way and took full delta ray exposure. Of course, there never was an explanation for why the baffle plate gave way, was there!
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There’s your villainy, right?
Michael – just ignore Red Dead Ryan. He has a tendency to tell people to go away. At least you’ve not been told to “Get the F*ck Off this Site!” or “Shut the F*ck up!”
When I wrote “Now, run along now”, it was with the intention that when you actually had something positive to bring “to the table”, as it were, then come back.
#156.
WTF??
We both told him to leave…….you chose the politically correct choice of words, and I just told it like it is, because on this site, someone has to!
There’s already too many damn trolls around here.
Also, MJ and Anthony Thompson gave it to Michael, yet I don’t see you condemning them. Stop being so high and mighty.
Try being consistent, next time. Sheesh!
Yes, indeed, RDR, somebody has to tell it like it is… and you have clearly ordained yourself to be the one to do so. I bow to your non-PCness…
Consistency is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Consistency is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BADDD.
Stop feeding the trolls.
“Stop feeding the trolls”
LOL! Classic line, AJ!
Red Dead Ryan drinks the Abrams Kool-Aid.
These aren’t Star Trek movies.
If you don’t like Star Trek and are just here to bash, why don’t you leave this site? Just a thought.
-signed EVERYONE ELSE
#162.
Yeah, you’re right, I do drink the Abrams Kool-Aid. And you know what, the drink was pretty damn good! Not too sweet or sugary, nice consistency, and most importantly, it definitely quenched my thirst!
Yes, his Kool-Aid happens to be “Star Trek”, and I’m ready for seconds!
Also, let me be “Realistic” with you. You mispelled your own online name. LOL! You can’t even get your own name straight!
Captian=CAPTAIN! There you go!
The only thing that annoys me is that the mainstream seem to think that Abrams made theONLY good Trek movie.
This is unfair to what came before in my opinion. He made a good film but is it realy the best ever Star Trek we got?
I still think Wrath of Khan and First Contact are both stronger films.
I am happy for Star Trek XI as part of the legacy, it is a new chapter of the legacy. A new chapter in a direction that is not my preference but can still enjoy.
I just dont want the past to be forgotten by the shiny new stuff.
165:
captain-neill:
“The only thing that annoys me is that the mainstream seem to think that Abrams made theONLY good Trek movie.”
While we’re talking opinions here, and I don’t know how old you are, the ‘mainstream’ has always looked to TWOK as the gold standard of Trek, and still watchable, while IV gets kudos for its gimmicky, but quaint message and disarming lightheartedness..
I agree ‘First Contact’ is a wonderful horror/time travel film, but TNG needs a PR-boost soon.
The mainstream likes to talk about Abrams because he promotes himself as a brand, and is active in directing and producing both films and TV. Paramount also, after what was the best season of Star Trek in years, canceled the show, saying it was “tired,” and punted to the young, hungry action director who was a TV guy with a loud personality, and a desire to blow things up. So, he “re-invigorated the franchise.”
If you stay on this site, you see a focus on the Abramsverse ‘Star Trek,’ for sure, but people still remember the old good stuff as well.
#166.
“I agree ‘First Contact’ is a wonderful horror/time travel film, but TNG needs a PR-boost soon.”
Well, TNG is getting an HD boost, so that should help at least.
“If you stay on this site, you see a focus on the Abramsverse ‘Star Trek,’ fo sure, but people still remember the old good stuff as well.”
There’s no reason why we can’t cherish the past, enjoy the present, and look forward to the future!
167
Fair points
I can’t wait to see Next Gen on HD and hope Abrams makes a good film which feels more true to Trek.
Damon stole Eli Wallace’s shirt.
I say a cheaply made, but well written Star Trek Titans tv show would do very well. Syndicate it like the old days so there is no network presence. That way, the stars of TNG, DS9, and Voyager (and their fans) will rejoice and be happy. Also, Paramount would only make money off it. (syndicate it first-run, then sell it on Netflix/iTunes, etc., then sell blu-rays with added content: ka-ching!)
148. Michael – January 15, 2012
You know… I hated Lost. I hated Alias. I hated Cloverfield. I hated all the Transformer movies.
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Come on, man. Where is the LOVE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc&ob=av3e
@148 you forgot cowboys & aliens…then again I think everyone wants to forget that :P
Cloverfield’s okay, XI is good albeit a little dumbed down. I’ll watch XII but I can’t say I’m excited about it.
Please!!! Do one more ST:TNG film before it’s too late! The problem with the last TNG movie was that it stepped outside the Narrative Thread of the TNG timeline.
There are so many options for a new story. Data can definitely come back through B4 (think of the episode when they found Data’s head in a cave, and it was 500 years old, the one with Mark Twain “Time’s Arrow.”)
Bring back Q, who said that he would stop in once in a while. The Borg, the Dominion, the Klingon Empire, anything that stays within the TNG history.
Please!!!! All in favor, please join me in asking Paramount for this!!!