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Watch: Original Star Trek: The Motion Picture Commercials – Now In HD February 22, 2012

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Feature Films (TMP-NEM),Viral Video/Mashup/Images , trackback

Our old friend visual effects artist, and super Trekkie, Daren Dochterman is up to his old tricks again. This time has has lovingly recreated the original commercials for Star Trek: The Motion Picture, but now in HD. Check them out below.

 

The Human Adventure is Just Beginning – In HD

In 2000 life-long Star Trek fan and visual effects artist Daren Dochterman got the dream job of working with director Robert Wise on the Star Trek: The Motion Picture Directors Edition DVD. Daren, along with producer David Fine and Michael Matessino essentially "finished" TMP and produced the version Wise had originally hoped to put into theaters in 1979. Daren was responsible for creating much of the new digital effects for the project.

Unfortunately all of the effects done for the project were done in standard definition so when it came time to release all the Star Trek movies on Blu-ray in 2009, Paramount released the theatrical cut. The world of Trekkies still hopes that some day Paramount decides to give the Director’s Edition the Blu-ray treatment.

Until then, Daren decided he would go back to the original 1979 commercials for the film and "remaster" them in 1080i. While the Blu-ray featured original commercials, they were just upscaled to HD. Daren has actually re-cut the commercials using bits of the 2009 Blu-ray release. These new edits were exactly spliced together with the original audio track, including Orson Welles famous narration. He even replaced the mono music track with stereo! The result is a new set of commercials in HD.  

Dochterman tells TrekMovie he "just felt like doing it." And we are happy that he did.

So far Daren has done six of the commercials. Here they are with all there Orson Welles HD awesomeness.

Daren tells TrekMovie he will finish up the last two original commercials, but probably not the full trailers as those contained some graphics not seen in the films. Daren has also created a special playlist, so tune into that for more additions.

For those who are curious, Dochterman says there has not been any movement on Blu-ray version of the Director’s Edition for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. He says he and the team are ready to jump into the project if/when Paramount decide to do it.

Keep up with Daren and learn more about his projects (including Star Trek: The Motion Pictures Directors Edition) at DarenDoc.com.

Comments

1. Harry Ballz - February 22, 2012

ST;TMP in HD?

SUH-WEET!

2. Starbase Britain - February 22, 2012

I love this music but i wish they hadnt used a reworking of it for the next generation.
Greg
UK

3. FlyingWok - February 22, 2012

You know, I actually got goosebumps from those trailers. The grandiose narration, the swelling and epic music, and the fantastical science fictional elements all work well really well together. I also liked the slower pace of the trailer — it felt well cut so you knew what you were looking at but without giving too much away — allowing you to really grow that anticipation.

I think this is what it may have felt like as a Star Trek fan in 1978 and being on the cusp of seeing returning old friends in a new adventure after years of reruns.

TMP may have its problems, but it still holds a special place in my heart because it was the only film to really focus on being a sci-fi adventure rather than an action-adventure movie. Which is not to say I don’t like the other movies, TWOK, TVH, TUC are all excellent Trek films, but TMP stands out as a unique entity compared to the rest of the movie canon.

4. Trono - February 22, 2012

The Enterprise looks great. Everything else looks… OK.

5. dmduncan - February 22, 2012

Great music and V’GER is still one of the most awesome things ever put on film.

6. Clinton - February 22, 2012

Oh boy, do I remember these! Used to have them on beta tape, recorded off the TV when ST:TMP premiered. Nice to see them again in such clarity. :-)

7. Darrell - February 22, 2012

FlyingWok: “I think this is what it may have felt like as a Star Trek fan in 1978 and being on the cusp of seeing returning old friends in a new adventure after years of reruns.”

You’re exactly right. I was there. :)

8. Jay - February 22, 2012

I got a question/comment, and since I don’t know any other place to post it, I will post it here:

What’s going on with the current production?????

Is it just me, or is there far less information about this production than the 2009 production?

Over a month into production and not one spy photo, no location information leaked from extras, or news helicopters, or passers by, not one “chat” from the set, no casting calls for extras, no information about locations being used or finished with, just no information at all really.

Is it just me? Seems like we were getting more tidbits of gosspe last time around.

9. Bob - February 22, 2012

What I find really interesting is to see the difference in the film’s rating over the years. When it was released to the theaters in 1979 it was rated G. When it was released on video and since, it’s been labeled as rated PG…

10. Reign1701A - February 22, 2012

Makes me want to watch it again ASAP. Love this movie.

11. Surak - February 22, 2012

These are bad-ass! For those who don’t know, Orson Welles does the narration!

The ST:TMP Enterprise has never looked more beautiful before or since.

12. Scott - February 22, 2012

Unfortunately HD shows the flaws in the special effects.

13. AJ - February 22, 2012

There must be less than a dozen FX scenes in these spots. It was known that the FX were done pretty close to deadline, so these must have been the ones which were more or less complete. Nice job re-compiling the scenes in up-converted HD.

Orson Welles did not sound drunk, thank goodness, like he is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5LkDNu8bVU

14. Anthony Thompson - February 22, 2012

They look awesome – wow!!! Thanks to Daren Dochterman. I hope he gets the nod to do the director’s cut HD effects.

15. Andy Patterson - February 22, 2012

Cool. Dig it.

16. tony - February 22, 2012

looks great love the enterprise

17. OtterVomit - February 22, 2012

I miss Orson Welles.

18. Christopher Roberts - February 22, 2012

Those included on the Blu ray disc do bug me! Don’t appear to be in the correction preportions. A 4:3 image stretched to 16:9, with no way of correcting it. Unless you go back to the Director’s Edition Disc 2.

19. Bren (Destructor!!!) - February 22, 2012

Anthony, heads up:
“In 2000 life-long Star Trek fan and visual effects artist Daren Dochterman got the dream job of working with director Robert Wise on the Star Trek: The Next Generation Directors Edition DVD.”

It was a Star Trek: The Motion Picture Director’s Edition DVD.

20. Christopher Roberts - February 22, 2012

18. Correction – “Don’t appear to be in the correct proportions.”

21. Chaz76 - February 22, 2012

I liked the Director’s Edition of TMP….but I have a gripe and a question which I don’t think was ever answered? My gripe with the DE is that they replaced the Enterprise’s klaxons with a cheap sounding one that mimicked the TOS one. I actually liked the klaxons and the Enterprise’s “voice” in the theatrical version. Maybe if Darren reads this he can expound on this on the reasoning to eliminate the origInal klaxon and voice and replace it. Also, why weren’t the new visual effects rendered for 1080p?

22. TwilightTrek - February 22, 2012

To me “Star Trek: The Motion Picture” is just a rework of TOS episode “The Changeling.” The FX on these are awesome. Great job.

23. rebecca - February 22, 2012

They should do a remake of this movie with the Jonas brothers!

24. JordanHoffman - February 22, 2012

Terrific stuff. TMP was so innovative. Not without flaws, but, dammit, I love it.

25. Allen Williams - February 22, 2012

@21 I thought I was the only one that liked the original voice and claxons better than the 2001 version. I was kind of hoping that I could get both on blu-ray and make an ultimate version that gets the best of both worlds at some point. too bad we’re still not getting the 2001 version.

26. Phil - February 22, 2012

Challenge my intellect? I still think this is one of the best, but it wasn’t all that challenging.

@23. Only if the Jonas Brothers are remade with Shatner and Nimoy on lead.

27. The_Bear - February 22, 2012

@ 3. FlyingWok

Well said. My sentiments exactly. ST:TMP stands as my favorite of the movie series mainly because of this.

28. rm10019 - February 22, 2012

Great job, and I urge Paramount to commission TMP:DE HD!

29. Gary Makin - February 22, 2012

TMP should be re-released in 3D rather than TPM.

30. Chuckunit - February 22, 2012

Slice it any way you like, as a Trek fan who saw it at the theater on it’s opening night, for those of us who had, at that time, only the 79 TOS episodes and the 22 animated episodes committed to film, it was gratifying to see Trek finally get the Cadillac treatment from Hollywood. Today, the inmates run the asylum, and run it damn well…..the movie artists of today grew up with “Trek”, “Star Wars”, and so much more….they know what we like because they like it too.

“Star Wars” completely blindsided Hollywood in 1977. Consider that “Logan’s Run” had come out only a year before, and the big SF hit of 1977 was supposed to be “Damnation Alley”. Movies were product they moved. Movies were business. The holders of the means of production had no idea what we’d like, because had no way to know WHY.

TMP has its problems, but in context, it proved “Star Trek” could earn. It pulled it from the attic and kept it alive long enough for those with a counter-cultural sensibility to have grown up enough to produce it for themselves.

31. portho's bitch - February 22, 2012

“Red alert red alert….ship is on red alert ..”

I can well remember the 70s no trek except for TAS…then the news conference…and finally the film…I was much like the portrayal in Free Enterprise..We (the fans) had n o say back then what you saw was what you got..I remember o pening every issue of Starlog to Susan Sacketts column. (Thank you Kerry Oquinn and Susan Sackett).
One comment everyone had their introduction scene..and the Enterprise had hers …if not for that exposition the original fan would have felt cheated,and I still remember my heart thumping at the sight of Kirk in the tram window.
Love my trek

32. Vultan - February 22, 2012

I’ve grown to love this movie.

But rated G? I remember seeing this on video when I was a kid and being disturbed, borderline terrified by the transporter accident. PG is more like it.

33. Shilliam Watner - February 22, 2012

Love this film, love the Director’s Edition. Far too underrated for being VERY much a Star Trek movie.

34. Jonboc - February 22, 2012

Nice job! Love the bluray of the theatrical release…now they need to let DD work on a high def version of the movie, the way Wise intended it to be.

35. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - February 22, 2012

Still my favorite Star Trek movie of all time — I’d love to see the Director’s Edition get a BluRay release. (So far it looks like only the theatrical version is available).

36. BobTompkins - February 22, 2012

The Director’s Edition DVD was a nice improvement to the original version, a bit of a shame Paramount didn’t release that one on the DVD.
The flaws in the SFX are really glaring in the current Blu Ray; some of them were irritating when I first saw it in the theater way back when, even though I was thrilled by the simple fact that Trek was back.
In the 1970s, hard information was hard to come by during the hiatus from new productions, almost as hard as it is to come by in this enlightened, communications enhanced age.
TMP was the movie that was the truest to Roddenberry’s vision of Trek, although I sometimes wish that Paramount hadn’t locked so firmly and so early onto ‘In Thy Image’ as the theme for the movie. Paramount seemed to want something to parallel 2001: A Space Oddysey, hence the ponderous pacing and lack of action laden conflict.
The cuts they made to get it a G rating were wholly unnecessary since a PG rating would not have cut revenue and might have actually enhanced it.
Having a finished third act before filming might have been helpful to the final film too.

37. Vultan - February 22, 2012

There’s a long list of classic movies I’d like to see on an IMAX screen.
TMP is one of them.

38. portho's bitch - February 22, 2012

One of the forgotten taglines for STTMP “A 23rd Century Odessey Now” it had an amazing poster too….

39. fansincesixtynine - February 22, 2012

I saw the “Unfinished” commercial as a 12-year-old kid and was never so excited in my life!

40. Basement Blogger - February 22, 2012

First, thank your TrekMovie for these trailers. And WOW. WOW. WOW. Love that Jerry Goldsmith theme. It makes me ready for the human adventure.

41. Royal Canadian Institute for the Mentally Insane - February 22, 2012

I will pre-order a re-done TMP. I know there’s not a lot of love for it, but I still feel it a very under appreciated TREK, and the era between TMP and TWOK a great unexplored series of adventures.

42. Royal Canadian Institute for the Mentally Insane - February 22, 2012

And ditto what #7 said re/”You’re right. And I was there.” Me too.

43. Uncle Dave - February 22, 2012

With the exception of DivinePower, they really seem dated by todays standards, and yet I remember these as making the hair stand up on the back of my neck (I was 14 at the time).

The standout in the way it introduces the world of Star Trek was DivinePower – I think it would hold up today.

44. Thorny - February 22, 2012

That Enterprise just stands head and shoulders over the 2009 Enterprise. Very possibly the most beautiful space vessel ever seen on film.

TMP has it flaws, but the refit Enterprise was not among them.

45. Red Dead Ryan - February 22, 2012

#44.

Damn straight!

46. Ensign RedShirt - February 22, 2012

#44-

Totally agree. The refit E is in a class all her own. No subsequent version comes close.

How badass would V’Ger be in IMAX 3D?

I may have to watch TMP tonight-must underrated of all the films and one of my faves.

47. dmduncan - February 22, 2012

You know that’s an idea. I would pay to see TMP in 3D for the crazy ass V’GER effects.

48. Sebastian S. - February 22, 2012

The late, GREAT Orson Welles really gives those commercials a gravity they’d have otherwise not had in such abundance. He is one of my all-time idols; so much so, that on Halloween a couple of years ago, he was my costume!

;-D

And kudos to Darren Dochterman and his work. Not only on these spots, but also his exemplary work on ST-TMP the director’s cut. In fact, after I saw these spots yesterday on Ain’tItCoolNews, I watched a bit of the dvd of ST-TMP this morning. The improvements (visually, aurally and editorially) were subtle, seamless and organic to the movie. Everything the increasingly loopy versions of the Star Wars movies aren’t.

Shame they haven’t remastered this version for Blu Ray….

49. Shilliam Watner - February 22, 2012

TMP is the movie that is most reverent of the Enterprise. It understands that the ship is one of the most important characters. Khan used it to great effect, but TMP is still the best. Those long, lingering shots as Scotty flies Kirk to the ship are fantastic. Robert Wise really got it.

As for the fixes, my favorite is the slipping matte lines that occur when the probe crosses the ship’s view screen. You could clearly see one side dip below the other and it really bothered me.

Now that’s gone. The rest is “sauce for the goose” and is wonderful stuff as well.

I remember a couple of these commercials. They really got me riled to see the film, and I went to it three times in the theater.

50. sean - February 22, 2012

#49

I love TMP, but its biggest problem is that it’s so reverent of the Enterprise it forgot that we’re interested in the people inside of her, too.

51. BringBackKirkPrime - February 22, 2012

I agree number 22, it was a rework of the original episode, the Changeling, I think the t.v. episode was better written and certainly more original. Hard to believe after all the years leading up to the movie, that they couldn’t come up with an original story. Oh well, it didn’t stop me from paying to see it several times when it came out, lol.

52. Magic_Al - February 22, 2012

TMP’s G rating was normal for the times. The ratings system was only a decade old. The PG-13 rating hadn’t been invented yet and that made both the G and PG rating more inclusive of films made for adults. Films with even more unbelievable G ratings were The Planet of the Apes and The Andromeda Strain.

Today the ratings are used more to select a target market than as a content advisory. The G rating is now considered too tame, and so most kids’ films add enough bathroom humor to get a PG. PG is now associated with kids’ films. R is increasingly limited to smaller-budget comedies, art films and Oscar bait. NC-17 was created to replace X and it did: they’re both useless except as a tool for the MPAA to act as unelected national censor.

Any live-action movie with a significant budget is expected to conform to a PG-13 rating for maximum reach. Because of this pressure, Hollywood now has a very uniform and bizarre de facto content standard for every big or even not-so-big film: violence that’s too intense for kids and sex and language that’s too censored for adults. This same pressure forces Star Trek to be “edgier” (angrier and more violent and profane) than it used to be or needs to be, just so it doesn’t get “stuck” with a PG or G rating that would be undesirable for marketing purposes.

53. Jack - February 22, 2012

Wow. The movie really was pretty darned spectacular. Also amazing that
it was made only three years after Logan’s Run — the two look decades apart now. I’m sure budget had a lot to do with that.

I remember being angry with Trek II, when I first saw it, for reusing the Enterprise in spacedock stuff… and for changing the cool uniforms… Sigh. I was a kid.

Incidentally, TMP had at least one major explosion (I still get ornery over claims that before Trek ’09, Star Trek was all about ideas, not explosions [don't get me wrong, ideas are swell -- but Trek always had action, and one of the big complaints about TMP was that it was lacking the action-adventure feel -- and optimism? -- of the original series]).

36. “In the 1970s, hard information was hard to come by during the hiatus from new productions, almost as hard as it is to come by in this enlightened, communications enhanced age.”

Personally, I’m thrilled about that. Looking back, I love that I had to scramble to get my hands on a Starlog just to see a still or two from an upcoming movie.

2. Starbase Britain – ” I love this music but i wish they hadnt used a reworking of it for the next generation.”

Me too! It so belonged to TMP in my mind that, when I first saw it in the TNG credits, well, it felt sort of… stolen. Maybe that’s too strong a word, but it didn’t really fit. I wondered, at the time, if Roddenberry decided that it was his movie and he could do whatever he wanted with it (including recycling Ilia and Decker). Or if it was cheaper than havinga new theme written. My biggest beef, though, was that the version/part they used didn’t actually sound that great on TNG. You got no sense of the beauty of the original score.

50. Yep. And the reverence of the Enterprise became a bit overplayed after a while. Ultimately, it’s just a name. I know, I know — I love the ship too — but it was important because those people were on it and because of the adventures they had, not solely because it was named the Enterprise. I mean, there were other ships doing amazing things, I assume. It bugged me that they had to stress that it was the flagship in Trek ’09.

54. Buzz Cagney - February 22, 2012

Had to laugh at Orson saying the ship had to leave ‘unfinished’. As did the movie!

55. Vultan - February 22, 2012

#50

Interesting point. Remember also that V’ger was more reverent of the Enterprise and than the “carbon-based units” aboard her.

Now, if the movie itself is treating its characters the same way, is that a comment on the filmmakers? On Hollywood? Or the fans?

Do we hold more reference for machines (real or fictional) or for people (real or fictional)?

Curiouser and curiouser….

56. Chris Freeman - February 22, 2012

@21 and 25…

The “red alert red alert” computer voice was removed in the Director’s Edition as part of an attempt to make the production more “human” overall. There used to be a downloadable commentary on StarTrek.com that was made by more of the technical team (including Dochterman) that talked about changes like the klaxon and other editing choices and goes into much more depth than the commentaries included on the DVD. However, the site has changed in the last few years and I can’t find it now.

57. Vultan - February 22, 2012

Correction: “more reverent of the Enterprise than the…”

58. Ensign RedShirt - February 22, 2012

56-

Daren has the commentary on his website. Definitely a good listen.

59. DevlinC - February 22, 2012

TMP – still highly underrated. In retrospect I’d put it up with Undiscovered Country and the 2009 reboot as the best that Star Trek has ever offered.

60. Cmdr. Devlin - February 23, 2012

One does not simply declare 1080i if it is so poorly encoded.

61. Andy Matner - February 23, 2012

I always struggled to watch TMP in one sitting. I found it so flat, dull & lacking in tension. However the DC was much more enjoyable. It was all quite subtle unlike Lucas’s revisitings. The greatest improvements I found with the DC cut was the sound fx’s were greatly improved & made the Enterprise feel alive. I hope Paramount upgrade TMP DC to HD & The Final Frontier needs some attention too. I find it hard to understand why they are dragging their heels on this front. When they are happy to invest in upgrading TOS & TNG completely

62. Andy Patterson - February 23, 2012

@2
@53

“I love this music but i wish they hadnt used a reworking of it for the next generation.”

I too didn’t like the fact that it was reused. Felt cheated and cheapened to me. Also the original version for the movie was so lush and played with longer lines. I loved how those guys played through the phrase. The TNG version was so choppy to me. Made me wonder if they changed Goldsmith’s original articulation markings, or just ignored them. Every time I’d hear Ernie Anderson’s voice over on the commercial…..”next time on Star Trek! The Next Generation” I’d cringe.

Oh well. Nice to see it bothered others too. As has been pointed out to me several times, I have pretty singular tastes and stand in the minority on several issues.

63. florian - February 23, 2012

i can’t watch tmp. it always reminds me how ugly the jj-enterprise is. ugh.

64. BobTompkins - February 23, 2012

9. Bob – February 22, 2012
The G or the PG depends upon the presence of Ilia’s celibacy being on record or not.

65. BobTompkins - February 23, 2012

53. Jack – February 22, 2012
Before Starlog it was reduced to what the newspapers told us. I had a relative in LA send me the show biz buzz section of the LA Times every week hoping for a clue that TMP was going to happen in any form…..

66. BobTompkins - February 23, 2012

I don’t mind the current cone of silence about the production, at least we know it is being made; as the time draws near, we’ll probably find out about Cumberbatch’s role and how much Pike does in this one.
Just sayin’ if I had a script I’d pass it along to anyone who asked for the ultimate spoiler.
I always look for spoilers, it never spoils a movie for me. Spoilers also help me to get my review written quickly sometimes before I have seen the movie at all. ;-))

67. Loran Alan Davis - February 23, 2012

Daren – if you are reading this, I want to congratulate you on the incredible work you did on TMP trailers and Director’s Cut. TMP is a beautiful and intellegent film. It doesn’t pander to the ADD crowd who need constant action and explosions. The film is full of beauty and wonder. We will probably never again see this kind of filmmaking from Hollywood. I am so glad that Robert Wise was able to go back to the film and restore it to his original vision before he passed away.

It pains me to see so many young people today refer to visual effects older than five years as “outdated.” Effects artists have done incredible work over the decades. Using real models; hand-drawn animation, matte paintings, and rotoscoping; and beautiful optical printer compositing; their work has truly stood the test of time and to simply dismiss their efforts as “outdated” shows a true lack of appreciation for the art of filmmaking over the decades. Just look at those trailers from TMP. How can anyone dismiss those visual effects as outdated?

And the music…some of Jerry Goldsmith’s greatest work. Much has been said about his primary theme from the film. But I think the entire score deserves more recognition. His use of pipe organ in the score – especially the thunderous organ pedal used in the final measures of the “flyby” sequence – is a marvel to listen to. And we should not forget the contributions of Alexander Courage and Fred Steiner to TMP. Combined, the two of them composed about 15 minutes of the score – brought in by Goldsmith to help him complete the score on time. As a bonus, check out the special features on the Director’s Cut DVD – there is a portion of the “flyby” sequence with alternate music not used in the final film.

I am glad that more and more people are recognizing that TMP, especially the Director’s Cut, is a much better film than it was originally thought to be. Thanks again, Daren, for your contribution in bringing much-needed attention to this underrated masterpiece.

68. Chris M - February 23, 2012

Even though Star Trek The Motion Picture has never been considered one of the best Star Trek films it has definitely grown on me over the years as I think it has with most Trekkies. It’s a big epic film with some spectacular special effects and even though it wasn’t well received at the time it made a ton of money for Paramount :-)

I wonder if in 1979 when the film was released that in 2012 the 12th Star Trek feature film would be in production………?!

69. chrisfawkes.com - February 23, 2012

These are cool. I might revisit tmp. Last time i saw it was 79.

70. Horatio - February 23, 2012

Directors Cut in Blue Ray. Must. Have.

1979. What a year. Alien. Time After Time. TMP – just to name a few.

As others noted above there was so much buzz and excitement for TMP. It was a magical time in fandom. As for me, I can overlook the 12 minute V’ger flyby. I don’t care. TMP holds a very special place in my heart.

71. CAPT KRUNCH - February 23, 2012

I swear there was another commercial that showed Enterprise passing Jupiter and Orson Welles saying the “the human adventure is just beggining”..It was slightly different…. I know I remember it, but can’t seem to find it anywhere…youtube etc.

72. New Horizon - February 23, 2012

Please Paramount, commission a Bluray edition of the Directors Cut from Darren and his team. Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase! It’s the way Robert Wise intended the film to be seen.

73. mojomonkey - February 23, 2012

Still the biggest, best ST movie, IMO.

74. Chris Pike - February 23, 2012

also easily the most futuristic that Trek has ever looked…it really feels like the future, I didn’t much care for the contempory feel of the last film. I do wonder if all the 65mm film elements still exist for a possible recomping of the VFX (as TNG Next Level) as well as the DE new vfx redone to 1080p ???

75. SoonerDave - February 23, 2012

@3 Exactly right. I was there as a starry-eyed Trek nerd on the first Saturday after it was released, all of 15, with a line of folks that wrapped around the theater and down the street where the theater was located. The idea of seeing Trek, brand new Trek, was indescribably fun. It was great to have all the other movies (excepting V, I s’spose), but none of them matched the magic of the “reunion” of TMP.

Just wish everything in the ship hadn’t been so darned *blue* :)

76. SoonerDave - February 23, 2012

Man, I look at those trailers, and realize there was NO WAY *any* Trek film could have lived up to that kind of expectation and hype. No way.

Great memories, tho

77. Joseph A Coatar - February 23, 2012

From 1995-1997 I created 167 22″x44″ paintings depicting the missing scenes of this movie as described from the novelization, I’ll always love Star Trek The Motion Picture

78. BwimBwim - February 23, 2012

Another thing about TMP that really sets it apart (for me), is that the Klingons in this movie really came across as alien.

Of course this is largely due to the fact that this was the first appearance of the radical redesign of their look.

Its more than that though. I Just can’t quite put my finger on it. But it remains my favorite depiction of them to this day. It felt right for me.

79. rm10019 - February 23, 2012

76 – Who played Admiral Nogura in your paintings?

80. Mark Lynch - February 23, 2012

If Paramount are listening….

I promise to buy 2 BluRays of ST:TMP The Directors Edition if you commission it.

The data for the renders must certainly still exist. I can’t imagine Daren Dochterman would ever delete them.

Why not get all the Star Trek web sites together and create a unified petition to encourage Paramount to make a BluRay of ST:TMP TDE?

81. Mark Lynch - February 23, 2012

Oh yeah, just wanted to add…

ST:TMP TDE

Best Star Trek film ever. ‘Nuff said.

82. Surak - February 23, 2012

@76 I’d be interested in seeing a couple of those painting…any scans online. And I recommend the novelization to everyone–it includes scenes and background info that you don’t get in the film. Also, it’s Roddenberry’s only Trek book.

What if they had made the Phase II series instead of the film series? Man, Trek today might be totally different…..

83. Red Dead Ryan - February 23, 2012

There will be no Blu Ray version of “The Motion Picture”.

#61.

CBS is doing the remastering of TNG. They also did TOS. They seem to be the ones spending the money on fixing the tv series, while Paramount decides to be cheap.

84. Red Dead Ryan - February 23, 2012

DAMN, I meant

There will be no Blu Ray version of the Director’s Cut version of “The Motion Picture”.

85. Eric Holloway - February 23, 2012

It’s nice to see that it was a very special time for all of us and that we found so many different parts of the the movie to be fond of. I remember just enjoying the fact that we got to see the different ships and parts of space for a good portion of time and seeing the ships from different perspectives and angles. It gave such a scale to the situation the crew was facing. Remember seeing that tiny Enterprise traveling through V’Ger? What have they gotten themselves into? One shot, one kill against the Klingon ships…spells a powerful force to reckon with. One thing that bothered me and now I understand why it was done but why did the Vulcan ship have to dock with the Enterprise? Wasn’t the transporter repaired by then? But now I know it was to give Spock his dramatic appearance on the Enterprise. That movie just gives me a bigger sense of scale whenever I see it, look at the end of the movie after Kirk’s final line and you see the Enterprise from the side/bottom. What a huge, beautiful ship! It makes you beleive it is real, not like today’s movies that use CG instead of models. I don’t know if they will ever be able to replicate that. The music is the best ever produced for any Trek movie period. Yes the story lacked character development but thankfully the DE has tightened up the movie so that part isn’t so glaring to me. It’s a shame that more Trek movies will not follow this path and be epic…to go beyond action & adventure and slow the pace down to let the crew conduct some research, discuss the situation and then take action like they did in the series. I miss that. Those old discussions in the briefing room or Bones or Spock doing some sort of tests/research. Now it’s all take a quick look at the screen and wow…why didn’t I think of this before! Here’s the solution to our problem. I know I know, they only have so long in a movie, but you can’t spare a few minutes? Let’s actually see the crew doing what got them to where they are now by working. out a solution to a problem. Still, that was a magical time…the sky was the limit and how lucky we were to witness all that came since. Who’d have thunk it?

86. THX-1138 - February 23, 2012

I remember so vividly opening day for TMP. Myself and three of my buddies were at the State theater. The place was PACKED with Trek fans. Up to that point I didn’t realize how many fans there were in my hometown. But I remember the atmosphere as being absolutely electric and exciting. I, too, was an avid reader of Starlog and read every one of the advance articles in hopes of getting some inside info on the movie. I remember seeing the first concept painting of the refurbished Enterprise and not being too sure about the way it looked (sound familiar?). There was also a pic of the bridge under construction and it looking so different from the familiar TOS bridge.

Anyway, as the lights dimmed the crowd started to yell and scream in excitement. As the movie started another yell let out that I have never heard in a theater before or since. As each of our familiar heroes made their first appearance, more cheering. I remember smiling from ear to ear as we did the Enterprise dry dock fly-by.

And then V’ger. I remember thinking to myself that I hoped nobody else in the theater was as bored as I was as the E flew over mile after mile of mechanical nonsense. As I was certain that I was the most avid fan of them all, I wanted nobody to be disappointed in Star Trek.

As time has gone by, and I have added the DE DVD of TMP to my collection, I have come to love that movie. It is so different from all the Treks that came after it but I still believe that it is the purest iteration of Star Trek that has been filmed.

But man, was that an exciting time to be a Star Trek fan.

87. Kev -1 - February 23, 2012

These are much clearer than the DVD, nice work. Thank you.

88. AJ - February 23, 2012

85:

I saw TMP on opening day on 86th Street in NYC, and I’ll just never forget the feeling of seeing 3 Klingon Battle Cruisers, so huge and excruciatingly detailed coming toward me. They looked so real.

I also had an uneasy feeling during the V’ger flyover sequences. I wanted the film to get good again. Good for us the DE DVD tightens it all up. Still a film I would not use as an entry point to Star Trek.

89. Surak - February 23, 2012

Great review of the film:

http://reflectionsonfilmandtelevision.blogspot.com/2009/04/cult-movie-review-star-trek-motion.html

The teaser and theatrical trailers in HD are also on YouTube (and both are really awesome, too!):

Teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5drkg1NFfLM

Theatrical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLlV_JVtO5c&feature=related

90. THX-1138 - February 23, 2012

True AJ. But as a Trek fan I really enjoy it for the “High Concept’ sci-fi style it brought to the series. Sort of Star Trek’s version of 2001.

Actually if done right it’s what I would want for a future Star Trek movie. Or TV series.

How brilliant would that be? To do a new Trek series with the intent of it being a platform for high concept science fiction and still be entertaining enough for the masses. Utilize many of the great current and past science fiction writers and storylines (perhaps adapting older stories ala “Arena”). And for my tastes it would be in the Prime Universe.

But yeah, that would be cool. And sort of like the concept was originally intended in 1966.

91. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire. - February 23, 2012

I love Tmp Remastered. Please paramount. Make it happen. Tmp in Blu-rey Remastered.

92. CmdrR - February 23, 2012

Orson Welles could sell fake patents to his mother.

93. Jefferies Tuber - February 23, 2012

Orson Welles narrated those commercials?

94. THX-1138 - February 23, 2012

#92

In those days Orson Welles lent his voice to everything. Boxed wine. Frozen vegetables. Personal answering machine greetings. Star Trek commercials. Everything.

95. Killamarshtrek - February 23, 2012

Watching these brings back all the feelings of watching TMP for the first time. Of course it had it’s faults but after 10 years without any new Star Trek to suddenly have it on THIS scale was overwhelming.

No other film will have the moment we first see the new, updated Klingon ships, or a long haired Spock shielding his eyes on Vulcan, a shuttle landing at ‘Starfleet Headquarters’ with Kirk peering through the porthole or the moment where the shuttlepod with Kirk and Scotty turns to see the Enterprise in FULL view to the MAJESTIC score of Jerry Goldsmith! The feelings that these and other moments evoke are reason enough to make this a very special movie!

96. Horatio - February 23, 2012

#82 – Don’t be so sure. If Paramount thinks they can squeeze more money out of the fans they will most certainly bring the Directors Edition out on Blu-Ray. This is one fan waiting – no begging – to be squeezed.

#91 & 92 – Orson Welles was also a good friend of Robert Wise since the Citizen Kane days (Wise edited Citizen Kane). I would bet a few quatloos that Wise asked his friend to do the narration for the commercials.

97. Simon - February 23, 2012

64. BobTompkins – February 23, 2012 – “The G or the PG depends upon the presence of Ilia’s celibacy being on record or not.”

Nope. Her oath is on record regardless of the G or PG. It was in the original theatrical cut.

As a 12 year old watching it opening day that statement zoomed right over my head. I didn’t understand it until I read the novelization a few months later.

Back in the 1970s, kids weren’t coddled like the precious delicate snowflakes they are today. The PG rated “Logan’s Run” has a LOT of nudity, that film would get an “R” these days. “G” rated films could have quite a bit of violence and peril.

98. Rico - February 23, 2012

Love it! Looks great. Really takes me back to the golden days of Trek first starting out on the big screen.

99. darendoc - February 23, 2012

I’m glad people seem to be liking these… and that it reminds them of back when TMP was new. That’s what they remind me of too… just a bit of the magic of seeing these people up on the screen after we had waited so long.

As to the DE on Blu-Ray… yeah, no one wants to see it more than us. I know I speak for David Fein, and Mike Matessino, that when we originally worked on the project back in 2000, we tried to get the studio to go along with doing the project in HD… but they wouldn’t budge. We would love a chance to go and get Mr. Wise’s cut up to snuff and in as at least as good a quality as the Theatrical version is.

100. Ensign RedShirt - February 23, 2012

Daren-

Thank you for doing this-it was a wonderful journey down memory lane. I was 6 when TMP was released and I do remember seeing some of these spots and being incredibly excited.

I hope Paramount eventually comes around and allows you guys to upgrade the film, especially since it seems like you saved all the assets.

Kudos to you, Messrs. Fein and Matessino, and the great Robert Wise.

101. Shilliam Watner - February 23, 2012

50. sean – I agree and disagree with you about the characters in TMP. I think they did a pretty good job with Kirk (regretful of taking promotion, ambitiously deceptive by stealing Decker’s captaincy, concerned for Spock, still a sharp thinker and quick actor; quite a bit of character development, actually.) And

Spock was given a pretty good story – failing to achieve Kholinar, abandoning the discipline with the cold regret all over his demeanor for the first part of the movie, then choosing to seek something else that turned out to be feeling, human emotion, maybe for the first time fully accepting his human side.

I suppose Bones had the weakest development, but he always did among the three. Still, we see him at first as the reluctant draftee, and as his usual grouchy self, but still counseling Kirk when needed and fighting with Spock.

I think they did a great job with those guys, and Decker, too. But yeah, Sulu, Uhura and Chekov definitely got the short shrift, but they always had in TOS as well.

Anyway, that’s my view. I think the movie treated the ship and characters exactly as the series had. It seemed very much like a ramped-up episode of the series, but with Kirk and Spock each having and dealing with their own crisis.

But I respect your view. If it didn’t work for you, it didn’t work. I feel no compulsion to convince you otherwise, just stating my own case. Thanks for talking!

102. dmduncan - February 23, 2012

99. darendoc – February 23, 2012

I can’t believe they were so myopic and unwilling to recognize how short a lifespan the work would have in SD

103. Rolando - February 23, 2012

I hope everyone has downloaded nd enjoyed the DD’s commentary track fro the Directors Edition!

Speaking of reverent, I love this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO8zj1KubQM

I wish it would be remastered!

104. Anthony Thompson - February 24, 2012

99. darendoc

Will you be doing the teaser trailer showing the cast one by one as the ship slowly moves out of spacedock? That’s the one I saw in the theatre and which left me thrilled and filled me with anticipation!

105. MC1 Doug - February 24, 2012

ST-TMP is still my favorite of all the films. These remastered shots upped to HD look astounding!

I like many aspects of the director’s cut, but like many, I prefer the original sound effects to the new version!

Still the best, IMHO!

106. Holger - February 24, 2012

Oh yes! My favorite Trekmovie. Films like this one and Kubrick’s 2001 and Blade Runner are the reason I’m seriously considering getting HD.

107. Greenberg - February 24, 2012

#23 you are a moron and your wish will never come true.

God, it feels satisfying to say that.

108. Anthony Thompson - February 24, 2012

The ads are great. The film was not. It’s the ‘bad karma’ film. Kirk’s a jerk. McCoy doesn’t want to be there. Spock doesn’t really want to be there, either. The happy reunion the fans expected and hoped for was anything but! Further, a non-story and lots of superfulous(sp?) scenes (transporter malfunction, wormhole, too long of a beauty shot, etc.). The sound effects were really annoying, but thankfully mostly fixed for the director’s cut.

109. SoonerDave - February 24, 2012

@108

I agree with your thoughts just about 90%. The writing is what killed this story, because we were expecting a great reunion, but were met with a bunch of disgruntled folks all seemingly angry at themselves, Starfleet, or the world for varying reasons. Heck, Kirk was made the enemy for tossing Decker out of the command chair. Spock was leaden, even for Spock.

I kinda liked the klaxon and background computer voice. I always thought, however, that the bridge was just a bit too big to represent a “refit” from the TOS Enterprise as posited in the story. And I remember wishing (expecting) Kirk to herd everyone into the Briefing Room at one point to hash out strategy, but they never did. Not once.

There’s no question the powers that be simply missed on the fact that TMP’s story was a rehash of The Changeling. Virtually identical story. That’s where someone like a Harve Bennett would have come in and said “hold the phone, folks…” But given all the pressures and changing deadlines/purposes of the film, its a miracle it was ever made at all.

Warts and all, it was an elegantly built film, or at least aspired to be. BTW, just as a matter of irony, someone here needs to take a look at the old Robert Wise film, “The Andromeda Strain,” and look at the Wildfire lab central core. Look familiar? It is *shockingly* similar to the Enterprise’s multistory intermix chamber in TMP, as are the circular decks, even down to the cylindrical lights mounted to the tops of the walls and over some of the doors. Can’t help but wonder if Wise borrowed some “Strain” concepts to the Enterprise – I recall reading he ordered all the sets built for the defunct TV series scrapped and rebuilt once the movie had been ordered by the studio…

One thing’s for sure, though, the TMP Enterprise was the class of all the movie Enterprises, and its not even close. JJ’s Enterprise takes a distant backseat with its lopsided, unbalanced look.

110. Anthony Thompson - February 24, 2012

96. Horatio

WRONG. Welles hated Wise by that point. Because he felt that Wise had mucked up his “Magnificent Ambersons”. Look it up, homeboy.

111. Matthew - February 25, 2012

to my knowledge, the PG rating didn’t exist at the time of TMP release, hence the G rating.

112. Johnny Ice - February 25, 2012

73# SO TRUE.
Adjusted box office for 2011:
1. TMP $439 million worldwide
2. S09 $ 408 million worldwide.

cool hd videos :)

113. Vultan - February 25, 2012

#111

PG existed in 1979.
PG-13 didn’t, not until ’84.

114. Thomas Jensen - February 26, 2012

Directors Edition out on Blu-Ray….do it!

115. Horatio - February 27, 2012

#110 – well, whadya know…it pains me to say that you are right – especially since you are such a douche.

116. Adam Bomb 1701 - February 29, 2012

#102 – I agree with you 100%. Especially that back in 2000, HDTV was starting to take off. To be fair, my “Director’s Edition” DVD, played on a Blu-Ray player and viewed on a 40″ HD set, looks great. Still, if it ever does come out on Blu-Ray, I’d be first on line to buy it.

117. V'Ger6 - February 29, 2012

Paramont Suggestion: Star Trek the Ultimate edition with all 3 versions on Blu-Ray, the 79 original cleaned up a buit more, the 80 vhs tape version, and the special editon in one pack.

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