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Quinto: Star Trek Sequel Still Being Defined + Saldana Talks Exhausting Schedule February 29, 2012

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Star Trek's new Spock Zachary Quinto has once again given some insight into the process of making the new sequel. In new comments from Oscars over the weekend, the actor talked about how director JJ Abrams is still 'defining' the film. He, along with Zoe Saldana, also talked about the grueling schedule. Details below.


Quinto on sequel still being defined + hard shooting schedule

Speaking to E at the Academy Awards on Sunday, Star Trek's Zachary Quinto once again talked about how the sequel currently in production is evolving, saying:

Zachary Quinto: "What you guys are going to see has yet to be solidified, decided [and] defined and that's the great part about working with someone who is so mind-bogglingly talented as J.J. Abrams"

Quinto also noted that the shooting schedule has been "overwhelming," but he noted that he loves to "work hard." And Quinto's Star Trek co-star Zoe Saldana also talked to E over the weekend, and she too weighed in on the schedule saying:

Zoe Saldana: “I’m like happy exhausted. I’m literally going to bed with the biggest smile…I feel like I’m home.”

Zoe Zach At Oscar Parties
Zachary Quinto and Zoe Saldana arriving at Oscar parties


1. LukasKetner - February 29, 2012

Star Trek XII: The Undefined Country

2. Lt. Dakin - February 29, 2012


3. Keachick - rose pinenut - February 29, 2012

Star Trek 2 – Defining Indecision…:)

4. Nano - March 1, 2012

S.T. Ongoing > The Undefined Frontier!

5. Nano - March 1, 2012

Spock needs a Bow Tie!

6. DJT - March 1, 2012

Wonder what it’s like to be on that set right now.

7. Keachick - rose pinenut - March 1, 2012

Quinto’s comments here makes the producers look like indecisive twerps. I guess this could be in response to the stills and video turning up on www. and Quinto commenting on how many days they had been working on those scenes – way too much information given about something nobody is supposed to know about anyway – duh!

Oh, that they could all be a quiet Pine! I doubt even a rustle is heard.

I hope all is going well for everyone on the set and that my fine Pine captain Kirk gets good dialogue, good action scenes and good loving.

8. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 1, 2012

Star Trek. The Search for more lens flares.

9. Lousy Canadian - March 1, 2012

Like when Quinto’s filming the first film, I love seeing him with those big glasses! Makes me all giddy knowing he’s hiding those eyebrows! I feel like I’m 19 again. :P

10. Flaming Nacelles Forever! - March 1, 2012

I wonder why people who ‘had issues with’ the first Star Trek by JJ even bother to be concerned with the second film.

For me, I can’t wait to see what they have in-store for us, lens flairs and all.

Just my two-bits.

11. MJ - March 1, 2012

“Zachary Quinto: “What you guys are going to see has yet to be solidified, decided [and] defined and that’s the great part about working with someone who is so mind-bogglingly talented as J.J. Abrams” ”

Oh, Oh!

12. La Reyne d'Epee - March 1, 2012

Reminds me uncomfortably of Richard E Grant’s memoir about working on Hudson Hawk.

Still. I’m sure it’ll be fine.

In JJ we trust…

13. loghaD - March 1, 2012

1. LukasKetner wrote:
“Star Trek XII: The Undefined Country”

You, sir, win! Please accept these five internetz as a token of my admiration!

14. Buzz Cagney - March 1, 2012

I think its great that the team are working on and thinking about this movie as they go. We all want this to be as good as it possibly can be. If they can take an idea and expand and improve it then why not.
I envy these people being in a job that they all clearly love.

15. CmdrR - March 1, 2012

More Ewoks!

16. Harcourt F. Mudd - March 1, 2012

Star Trek XII: The Search For Plot

It always makes me laugh when I read well-paid actors moaning on about how hard they work. Try flipping burgers for eight hours on minimum wage. Oh, bless.

17. somethoughts - March 1, 2012

Star Trek the search for sequel title

Star Trek fist fight on space barge with wind

18. Ugly, Drunk And Stupid - March 1, 2012


19. SoonerDave - March 1, 2012

Can’t help but wonder how much of the script wasn’t done before filming started.

20. pilotfred - March 1, 2012

i am sure its just the on going character plot thats making changers finding the moment and all that after all they know how lost was going to end right?!?

bring on the lens flares yeah i love them well i will love them more in the engineering set lol

21. pilotfred - March 1, 2012

is it Spock or superman

22. Spacecadet - March 1, 2012


what a great title for a new movie! ;)

23. PaulB - March 1, 2012

#16 Yeah, Harcourt, those lazy actors don’t do any hard work at all. Nothing hard about spending 10 or 12 hours a day away from home, in uncomfortable and even dangerous conditions, having to run, jump, climb, roll, learn lines, etc…

And what about all the actors whose movie job is to flip burgers? A scene shot in a diner might take 12 hours to shoot, with the “fry cook” and “waitress” having to flip burgers and carry plates that whole time.

Also, where exactly did any of these actors moan about the hard work? Quinto LOVES to work hard, and Saldana said she’s HAPPY about her exhauation. Clearly, no moaning here.

Sounds like you have a personal bias, maybe some insecurity about your own job, or at least a lack of awareness about what actors have to do. Just relax. There’s no need to sneer at actors, just as there’s no need to sneer at burger flippers.

Save all your sneering for the one job that deserves it: politicians. :)

24. Spacecadet - March 1, 2012

#23 Agree. Maybe popular actors or actresses get a little bit toooooo much money for their job in general, but it is a very hard job indeed and there is no moaning indeed. For instance Jeri Ryan collapsed while working in that Borg-Latex-Suite. Wouldn´t be a job for me at all!

25. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - March 1, 2012

ST2009 was locked into the screenplay because of the writer’s strike, so you all complain that there wasn’t enough flexibility to fix issues you have with the plot and whatnot.

Now, the writers and the director have the freedom to rewrite and refine the screenplay so that it’s just right, and you all complain that they are indecisive and unprepared.

The title should be…

Star Trek: There’s No Winning With You Guys

26. Jinn-Jinn - March 1, 2012

@25 LOL!

I think its a form of catharsis for some people here and in other Trek forums. :)

27. crazydaystrom - March 1, 2012

Nothing Quinto said is reason for concern. There’s more than one way to make a great film. For Alfred Hitchcock the movie was completely shot, edited and done in is head by the time the script was completed. Shooting it was just the last step and necessary evil to realize the project.
But truly amazing films like 2001 and Apocalypse Now were works-in-progress until practically the day they were released. Or even after.

Look, we’re getting engineering improvements, I’m happy!

Let’s see how many will interpret Zach’s words as ominous.

28. Captain Dunsel - March 1, 2012

@26. Jinn-Jinn – “I think its a form of catharsis…”

Catharsis: “Elimination of a complex by bringing it to consciousness and affording it expression.”

Well, some folks on these boards sure seem to have a complex, bring it to consciousness and afford it expression. H a v e n ‘ t seen a WHOLE lot of the “elimination” part though…

29. Barfco - March 1, 2012

I don’t understand how they can be making a movie from a script that is not really defined. I got to admit I’m a little worried based on how long it took Bob and Alex to pump out this script that this movie might be a mess

30. VZX - March 1, 2012

15. No, needs more cowbell!

Anyway, it’s nice to hear Zoe seem so appreciative of working on this movie, that it’s not “just another paycheck.” At least that’s what I hope.

31. somethoughts - March 1, 2012

Quinto looks likes Clark Kent with those glasses, he would have been awesome as the next Superman, instead we get a short stocky guy who doesn’t look like clark kent or superman…

32. trekon - March 1, 2012

Maybe they are rewriting the script so it fits Cumberbatch better.

33. Roobydoo - March 1, 2012

JJ and Damon threw together the LOST pilot in a few weeks. It turned out quite well.

34. Dee - lvs moon' surface - March 1, 2012

They are so worried about not saying anything inappropriate about it … and end up talking nonsense…?? or not … but I understand it, and do not blame ZQ … LOL

;-) :-)

35. MoPed - March 1, 2012

What’s undefined – how many lens flares to use and whether to use Coors or Anheuser-Busch logos on the engineering set?

36. Buzz Cagney - March 1, 2012

#25 you use the phrase ‘you all’ rather a lot! Innacurately too!
There is a phrase that you may find of more use…. ‘some of you’. ;)

37. DeShonn Steinblatt - March 1, 2012

Could they be chaning who the villain is in mid-production? Would that work? Would it still be obvious who it was originally intended to be?

38. chrisfawkes.com - March 1, 2012

I want to see Kirk do battle with someone or something ten times his strength and win.

I would also like to see Kirk outsmart a super computer until it blows up.

If those two things could somehow be worked in then i think we can say a perfect movie is guaranteed.

39. chrisfawkes.com - March 1, 2012

@31 I think Henry Cavill resembles how Superman looks in the comics, very much so.

40. Dennis Bailey - March 1, 2012

#7: “Quinto’s comments here makes the producers look like indecisive twerps. ”

Like Spielberg on “Jaws,” yeah…we know how that flop sidelined his career, eh? LOL

41. Vultan - March 1, 2012


Hey, yous gonna tries an’ correct peoples Anglish?
Yous musts bes froms old Angland or somethin.

42. Dennis Bailey - March 1, 2012

Read again – #36 wasn’t correcting grammar, just correcting unjustified generalizations.

43. Vultan - March 1, 2012


Mind your tatters, Denny.
Buzz and I are old friends—hence my knowing he’s from “Angland.”

44. TREKWEBMASTER - March 1, 2012

I’m sure with the very very many times Bob Orci has visited these illustrious halls at TrekMovie, that due diligence and every contingency has been anticipated to bring Star Trek the Sequel to its logical conclusion.

I can see all the naysayers sitting there, approaching the “great barrier” of the galaxy, with their fingers hovering over a blinking blue light…

There’s no need for GQ-III yet… lol.

45. TREKWEBMASTER - March 1, 2012

Hmm, perhaps what is “undefined,” as mentioned above, is just exactly what the actors have been given; but on a need-to-know basis?

What the heck is a “tatters?” LOL!

46. Sebastian S. - March 1, 2012

I sort of doubt that Quinto means the script or the storyline is still in flux at this stage of shooting (as it’s already shooting; as was the case in ST-TMP).

What he may be implying by his ‘has yet to be defined’ comment may simply refer to the prodigious amount of post production and editing that awaits this movie after principle photography has wrapped. The post production and the editing truly shape a film. They can take two stunt guys fighting in front of a portion of a wall and a green screen and turn it into an epic battle royale.

No movie is really ever made ‘in camera.’

47. Wes - March 1, 2012

Reminds me of the Livingston/Roddenberry undefined Motion Picture! They would change scripts daily. If only those guys would have lived today, Quinto may have called them “mind-bogglingly talented”

48. Keachick - rose pinenut - March 1, 2012

#40 You need to be more precise in why you liken what I wrote to presumably what happened re Spielberg and Jaws, because I have no idea what you are referring to.

It is how it looked when I read Quinto’s comments and I am not the only one who took that meaning from those few words. Perhaps he should have said “refined” as opposed to “defined”. Everyone on set (esp. the main actors, surely) I would hope should be crystal clear by now as to what the plot/sub-plots are, who the (main) characters are and what they do and what the beginning, middle and end are. Of course, when something undergoes refinement, then usually definition is more obvious and apparent.

WE don’t have or need to know anything and that is not the same as wanting to know.

49. The Last Vulcan - March 1, 2012

#45, “Wingin’ it” is a time honored Star Trek production policy. Pages of rewrites were physically run onto the set while the TNG actors waited as a matter of course, not exception. The set and prop guys were always rummaging through their warehouse to accommodate some last minute surprise which wasn’t even remotely in the writer’s minds an hour earlier. JJ’s mode of making movies is “gimme a hundred mil plus and I’ll see where the feeling takes me.” To my ol skool mindset that’s patently insane, but you can’t argue with success… and JJ has had plenty of that, so I respectfully bow and tip my hat.

If a corporation is going to spring $100+ mil on a new product plus another $100+ mil on marketing, they analyze every aspect, every component, every fillip, to make 100% sure that their best personnel have had every chance to amply perfect it before they take the step to place it into production. If any wunderkind were to show up in the exec offices and say “gimme that hundred mil and let’s produce an XYZ. I dunno if it’s going to run on AC, or AAA batteries, or a crank generator, or Tesla ether energy… and maybe it will make toast, or maybe it will be an insulin pump, or maybe it will communicate with dolphins… let’s crank up the assembly line and I’ll see what I can throw together” they would throw him from the 57th storey window onto Park Avenue. But if your name is JJ they lay out the carte blanche all the way to the Kodak Theater.

There is no substitute for success and even though the way it is achieved might make no sense to anyone outside the industry, it puts butts in seats and DVDs in players. That’s all that matters and therefore…


50. Keachick - rose pinenut - March 1, 2012

I think the problem is that everything is asked and answered in sound bytes. It seems Zachary got asked questions at a noisy after Oscars event and everything is rush, rush, so ambiguity and silliness tend to become the order of the day, as it were.

Finally, I got to see the video of Chris Pine talking to an interviewer at the This Means War premiere. There was a lot of background noise, as they were in a foyer and she mumbled into the microphone, so I could not clearly hear the final question, but it appears to have been repeated, because Chris said to her, “As I have already said…” It must have been late and he looked very tired and possibly slightly frustrated, but still managed to be good humoured. There seems to be so much shoddy journalism about and in this case an actor who probably should have been tucked up in bed after a long day instead of being asked the same old questions by a mumbling journalist in a noisy environment.

51. Anthony Thompson - March 1, 2012

Kirk will be captured and held by Cumberbatch’s character (let’s call him ‘Kurtz’). Cumberbatch will have shaven his head and be clothed in black robes. He will give long philosophical discourses on a variety of topics to Kirk. One night, he’ll throw Keenser’s decapitated head into Kirk’s cell. Finally, on a dark and stormy night, Kirk will free himself and slaughter ‘Kurtz’ before ordering a phaser barrage from the Enterprise upon ‘Kurtz’s’ evil lair.

The horror…the horror.

52. Vultan - March 1, 2012


Ah, that should’ve been spelled “taters,” not “tatters.”
But a tater is a… po-tay-to… or po-tai-to…

Let’s call the whole thing off.

53. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - March 1, 2012

@27 — I agree with you that 2001 and Apocalypse Now are excellent films, but so are many Hitchcock films.

Back to JJ, I can easily imagine him juggling ideas on set, mulling his options between choices A, B, C, and D, and perhaps shooting the more definite stuff first while leaving the harder choices for later. In some cases, filmmakers have been known to even fully shoot alternate scenes and decide on which one after editing and meeting with focus groups etc.

Remember how the end of Generations was first Soran shooting Kirk in the back, then reshot to the infamous falling bridge sequence. I’m sure we all wish they had tried a good deal more alternatives before settling on either one of those choices.

54. vorta20202020202020202 - March 1, 2012

Shooting a feature film of this scale IS difficult work, even if there’s 50% waiting around time the cast and crew work 12 hour plus days every day for months, in a fast paced environment with very little room for error! I respect what these guys are saying.

55. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - March 1, 2012

@50 – You kid, but something like that could be all shades of awesome.

56. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - March 1, 2012

@51 — ooh, taters and neeps… but pray, where’s the haggis in all this?

57. Aurore - March 1, 2012

“The horror…the horror.”

You called Anthony?

Star Trek 2 : Heart of Darkness


58. Mark Lynch - March 1, 2012

That was only reshot due to poor audience reception in the advance screenings.

59. Aurore - March 1, 2012

….Star Trek 2 : Heart of Darkness Rises : The Apocalypse is Now

60. PTFPete, the USPS Guy - March 1, 2012

Star Trek VII: “These Are the Voyages”…simple, understated, to the point. I truly enjoyed the 2009 Star Trek, lens flares, brewery and all. It was, all things considered, Star Trek. It emcompassed all the good things about Trek over the last 46 years, and then some. I have watched the movie no less than 20 times, and even went out and bought another DVD because I was concerned that I had worn mine down. I have watched it with and without the commentatry. I simply enjoy this film…and the soundtrack!!! OMG!!! I have listened to THAT so many times I had to order the 2 disc set a couple of years ago. I am beyond thrilled that the new movie is just over a year away.

61. Anthony Thompson - March 1, 2012


Yes. And it takes care of the Keenser problem. ; )

62. Anthony Thompson - March 1, 2012

58. Aurore

Love that title! haha.

63. lostrod - March 1, 2012


“Reminds me of the Livingston/Roddenberry undefined Motion Picture! They would change scripts daily.”

Yea, that’s true. Somewhere I have a STMP screenplay that someone gave me while film was still in production.

Had a completely different ending. As I recall, it had Kirk, Spock and Ilia beaming down to the Smithsonian to find an old 16MM projector that could show V’ger some old news reels of it’s launch.


64. Kevin - March 1, 2012


I’m a little late, but I have to chime in. I work in both camera and grip departments, and I can tell you that on features *nobody* has an easy job – not even talent. Especially on a production that has as as much action as this, everyone is busting their ass. Flipping burgers for 8 hours? I know my days are anywhere between 12 and 20 hours (depending on how far behind schedule things are), and while talent isn’t usually lugging stuff around (unless it’s part of their character/wardrobe/prop/etc), they still have physical and mental demands, and have to carry a consistent performance for all of those hours.

But it is fun as hell, though.

65. Red Dead Ryan - March 1, 2012

Zoe Saldana:

“I’m like happy exhausted. I’m literally going to bed with the biggest smile…I feel like I’m home.”

There you have it, folks! The title for the sequel has been inadvertently revealed to be:

“Star Trek XII: So Very Tired”!

66. Buzz Cagney - March 1, 2012

#52 you brought to mind this, Vults…..


I watched Frost/Nixon the other day (good to see Balok getting work as a cameraman!) and it piqued my interest somewhat so went surfing. I ended up finding this…



As a Brit is it ok for me to say how much I liked Ronnie without starting a political argument?

67. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - March 1, 2012

Well I appreciate the fact that Zach and Zoe are gracious enough to answer questions while at the Oscars and Oscar parties this weekend. They have always been kind about giving a few moments of their time to comment about the movie, even though what they can say is limited.

I personally don’t see what Zachary said about things still coming together as being any different from “fantastic” comments made by other actors about working on the set. It’s good to hear those things, especially when so many people are wanting and asking for any details they can get while they wait. This may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but it certainly doesn’t hurt…


Oh, and does anyone else notice that they match? :-) I don’t know if it’s a coincidence or what, but their pictures do look nice next to each other. :-)

68. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - March 1, 2012

And about the actual comments: I don’t think what Zachary is saying makes anyone look bad or indecisive. I think it has more to do with the reality of the end product versus its abstract form as a concept. You can have the best ideas for something, and a great script, but you really don’t know how things work (or don’t work) until you start putting things together. Based on how things are going, adjustments may need to be made along the way. JJ is a wonderful director, and he has been a great visionary with regard to how he’s handled Star Trek so far, so the movie is in good hands. I think that’s basically all that Zachary was saying.

69. Vultan - March 1, 2012


Not at all, Buzz. At least not from me. Ronnie was a funny guy. And he was proof positive that charm conquers all (well, most everything). I wish more folks, particularly in the political arena, would be of a similar mind.

Oh, and by the way, comparing me to Dan Quayle—that’s just all kinds of wrong, mister—you, you, bloody redcoat! ;)

70. Buzz Cagney - March 1, 2012

I do sense some lingering, er, issues regarding my country once owning yours Vults! lol Let it got buddy. We have. If we were that bothered we would have tried harder to hang on to you. We never even sent one of these bad boys over there to get you lot into line…



Anyway, don’t the Chinese own both of us now?!

它不能让你想哭 !

71. Vultan - March 1, 2012


Awesome video! Thanks.

Wish I could chat more with you, but I can’t be bothered now.
I have my Mandarin lessons. :D


72. Buzz Cagney - March 1, 2012


73. Keachick - rose pinenut - March 1, 2012

#68 I agree with your summation of Quinto’s comments. I think that is what he meant as well, but how he said it seemed odd, that’s all.

#64 Thank you, Kevin, for your insights. Are you actually working as part of the production on the Star Trek set? Just a yes or no will suffice, unless you would like to add more if the answer is yes. I realise that everyone who works on these kinds of productions have to sign a non-disclosure agreement, so I won’t ask (awkward) questions.

74. Buzz Cagney - March 1, 2012

That doesn’t translate back too well, Basically, it should say speak later my friend. Man, we are going to struggle when they insist we talk their language. I mean you guys haven’t even mastered English yet. ;-P

75. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - March 1, 2012


“Star Trek: There’s No Winning With You Guys”

Lol. Sounds like a winner to me.


“Catharsis: “Elimination of a complex by bringing it to consciousness and affording it expression.”

Well, some folks on these boards sure seem to have a complex, bring it to consciousness and afford it expression. H a v e n ‘ t seen a WHOLE lot of the “elimination” part though…

And I don’t think you will, sadly.

And you may want to be careful about posting definitions. Some people here don’t like it… :-/


For what it’s worth, I understood you perfectly.


Okay, so is Chris Pine quiet or not quiet? Or, is he only quiet about Star Trek because he should be, except for when he’s not, and not quiet about his other films because it’s okay to talk about those, just not Star Trek like his co-stars do and shouldn’t…???

Ah, I’m just trying to figure out how whatever rules/standards are being applied here. I’m not trying to be rude, but it is a real question.

76. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - March 1, 2012


Thank you for your reply. Odd is in the perception of the beholder. He made sense to me, but that’s just me.

77. Vultan - March 1, 2012


Wut, you talkin’ bout my Anglish scales agin?
Hope you no dis ain’t tha only contry wit such problams.


You see, it’s not just Chekov.
Scotty too.

78. Dunsel Report - March 1, 2012

#63 As an amateur scholar of the troubled production behind ST:TMP and “Phase 2,” I would love to see that early version of the script.

79. Buzz Cagney - March 1, 2012

#77 good stuff.


same actor…..


80. Vultan - March 1, 2012


Good stuff indeed.

My dad used to have a very bad comb over, until one day a strong, fateful breeze embarrassed him in front of a crowd of people.

Now he’s happily bald.

81. Buzz Cagney - March 1, 2012

It never held Bruce Willis or Sir Pat back, did it.

You have got me interested in accents. Is this a good idea of yours?…


Thats actually quite soft isn’t it.

Here’s an example of Wiltshire’s…


Again, quite soft, as with OK’s.
It never ceases to amaze me just how many accents we’ve managed to cram into these little islands.

82. BoltBait - March 1, 2012

Is Kirk even in this movie?

83. Harry Ballz - March 1, 2012

Hmmmmm, actors explaining that they are labouring through an “overwhelming” shooting schedule, while being interviewed on the red carpet that night, after coming from the studio.


84. Keachick - rose pinenut - March 1, 2012

Chris Pine is quiet in the sense of not saying too much, if anything, until it is OK to talk – as in not violating any non-disclosure agreement and being able to make a (reasonably) worthwhile comment. While This Means War was being made and in its post-production stage, he said nothing. Perhaps he wasn’t asked, but he did not volunteer anything either. However, when the movie was ready for release and promotion had started, he talks about the movie when asked, as well as sometimes revealing a little about himself to my delight and surprise.

I would expect to see this happen once Star Trek is about to be released and promotion proper gets underway. He will be asked and he will answer, as will the other actors.

Perhaps Zach and Zoe have been chosen by Abrams/the studio to speak on behalf of cast and producers, while the film is at this stage of production. I don’t know. Even before the movie was officially in the pre-production and now the filming stage, Chris Pine has been quiet, unlike the other Trek actors. The fact is there has really been nothing to say, nothing that any of them can really legitimately say, which is why we got quotes from the other actors at various times saying, actually, a whole lot of nothing.

BTW, I was not the only person who seemed to *misunderstand* Quinto’s comments. I got that just from reading some of the other postings on this thread.

85. James - March 1, 2012

Hey Kevin, since you work in the camera grip department on this movie, can you tell us who the villain is NOT at least? If it’s not Khan then just say so you know ha ha. :)

86. VOODOO - March 1, 2012

“What you guys are going to see has yet to be solidified, decided [and] defined”

Um, that doesn’t sound very promising…Not to be an alarmist, but does anyone remember when they were “defining” TMP as they were shooting it?

87. Buzz Cagney - March 1, 2012

#86 maybe we can look forward to the Directors cut in about 2032? ;)

88. Vultan - March 1, 2012


Yeah, that’s pretty much like my own. Though I live closer to Arkansas, so there’s a bit more “Suuuthern” influence. But yeah, it’s far from the Foghorn Leghorn stereotype around here. That would be deeper in the South—well, the Southeast, really.

Wiltshire sounds like the standard soft English accent to me—if there is such a thing as “standard.” Though, that would probably be the Queen’s English, wouldn’t it? Isn’t that also known as BBC English, because all the anchors speak that way? I’m probably wrong; my ear isn’t as finely tuned.

But I do enjoy the way this man talks:


You can probably imagine which man I mean… guv’na!

89. Vultan - March 1, 2012

Not many people know that.

90. Keachick - rose pinenut - March 1, 2012

#83 – Well, it is quite possible that they might be exhausted, but still able to produce a pleasant and polite countenance, while dressed up to the nines in heels or in suits and silly bow ties. I’m sure that this is both exciting and stressful at the same time. It all requires effort and being disciplined and consistent and if the actors do “screw up”, we soon hear about it and are usually very quick to comment, even me sometimes…

After a while, it probably feels like “another long day at the office”, except that most of us don’t have our pictures and answers to repetitive questions plastered all over the www. I guess that is why these guys get the big greenbacks they get…except that some of the A-lister actors and others seem to get way too much, but that’s another issue.

91. Basement Blogger - March 1, 2012

Didn’t learn a whole lot. And I really don’t want too many spoilers unless they throw out something like parallel universes and don’t explain it. Then I do want to research the science so I don’t mess up how they’re handling something like time travel.

What I did learn from the Oscars, the conventional movie, “The Artist” was Best Picture. Which means Martin Scorsese got hosed again. His “Hugo” should have won. See “Raging Bull” and “Goodfellas.” Oh, if you get a chance to see “Pina” in 3D, it’s another 3D masterpiece. Both Hugo and Pina were shot in 3D with Pina having a small budget. Both were some of the best uses of 3D that I have ever seen. Yeah, better than Avatar.

A couple more things learned from the Oscars. Emma Stone has the “IT GIRL” thing working. And Angelina Jolie has great legs.

92. La Reyne d'Epee - March 1, 2012

From what I can tell, quite a few actors have had the experience of having to earn a living by flipping burgers, waiting tables etc in order to get by…

93. punkspocker - March 1, 2012

Quinto speaks like a filmmaker. I dont read into it. Thanks for the updates and keep the coming.

94. MC1 Doug - March 1, 2012

#27: “But truly amazing films like 2001 and Apocalypse Now were works-in-progress until practically the day they were released. Or even after.:

Yeah, especially the “Star Wars” films, where even after and after and after and after and … apply.


95. crazydaystrom - March 1, 2012

#53 4 8 15 16 23 42-

I’m a huge Hitchcock fan.
The point of my post was that excellent films have resulted from productions when the script was ‘locked’ at the beginning of the shoot AND when ‘defining and refining’ was ongoing throughout the entire production process.

#57 Aurore-

“The horror, the horror…” indeed! IIRC, one of the Trek films was originally conceived as a ‘riff’ on Apocalypse Now! Nemesis I believe.

96. MC1 Doug - March 1, 2012

#78: Yeah, me too.

#84: Chris didn’t talk much about the first film either.

97. section9 - March 1, 2012

OMG, if the Enterprise has to “go upriver” to find a deranged Commodore Decker in search of the Great White Whale of a Planet Killer, I will scream.

I can see Cumberbatch as a 23rd Century Lt. Commander Willard, “Starbase 23. Sh*t. I’m still only in Starbase 23…..”

98. Aurore - March 1, 2012

62. Anthony Thompson – March 1, 2012
58. Aurore

“Love that title! haha.”

Thank you, Anthony!

99. Aurore - March 1, 2012

#57 Aurore-

‘”‘The horror, the horror’… indeed! IIRC, one of the Trek films was originally conceived as a ‘riff’ on Apocalypse Now! Nemesis I believe.”

I did not know that. I never saw Nemesis.

However, I read/heard some people asserting, countless times, that it (Nemesis) was a rip off of The Wrath of Khan.

100. NCM - March 1, 2012

Quinto’s in the thick of the action, has some credible experience with film production, and is clearly complimenting the process, not publicly sounding an alarm. Yet, I guess it can only mean the sky is falling.

101. No Khan - March 1, 2012

Wow sounds like the end was spoiled!

102. crazydaystrom - March 1, 2012


Niiice! I can see it too-

“I love the smell of plasma discharge in the morning. It smells like….victory!”


103. Anthony Thompson - March 1, 2012

91. Basement Blogger

A silent movie made in 2011 is a “conventional movie”? Perhaps you haven’t been out of the basement for 83 years or so! ; )

104. Aurore - March 1, 2012

“….conceived as a ‘riff’ on Apocalypse Now!”


( ….sometimes I need time…Lots of time…)

105. Harcourt F. Mudd - March 1, 2012

I will apologise for my wrongful misreading that the cast were moaning. You are quite correct that there is no indication of such. Speed reading in a hurry.

However, I do have some idea about what goes into acting, and I have no doubt that the cast are putting a lot of effort into their work. For $5 million dollars, you could bake me, keep me up for 24 hours, smother me in vapor rub, feed me raw chicken bones, taser me, squirt fresh lemon in my eyes… Three months of work and hello retirement for the rest of my life!

Oh, by the way, I have an Equity card and grew up on a lot of studio sets. The truth is that I am very much looking forward to this movie.

106. Keachick - rose pinenut - March 1, 2012

Who is getting $5 million dollars? It appears that Chris Pine is getting $3million for this and it is likely that Zachary Quinto will be getting similar. Still $3million is not something to sniff at… I doubt the other cast will be getting as much.

107. Vultan - March 1, 2012


Not just a silent movie, but a silent movie in 4:3 format.
I knew this talkie thing was just a fad, by gum. :D

108. crazydaystrom - March 1, 2012

#104 Aurore-

Take all the time you need :-)

109. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - March 1, 2012

Zach and Zoe are not stupid. If it were not OK to make statements that DO NOT give away any of yhe plot, then guess what? They wouldn’t be talking.

And now to the speculation that perhaps Zach and Zoe have been chosen to speak for the producers. It’s wrong to think that because these two very talented and kind individuals are gracious enough to politely answer questions on the red with answers that, again, don’t give anything away, that this somehow means thst they are speaking for other people.

Chris pine has commented about working on the movie as well, in addition to his other projects, but I guess we’ll just continue to have a different set of rules for him… :-/

Oh, the double standards! :-/

Anyway, seeing as Zachary IS a producer with his own production company, he knows what to say and what not to say. Someone mentioned that he speaks like a filmmaker. I agree. He also speaks like someone who is in love with the process if making film and his craft as an actor. Zoe too.

Maybe a few people can’t understand that, but the rest of us can.

110. Basement Blogger - March 1, 2012


Let’s see the plot for “The Artist.” We follow the rise and fall of a silent film star as talkies take over. See “Singing in the Rain.” “A Star is Born” etc., etc. etc. You and I could write the story.

111. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - March 1, 2012

@110 — Have you even seen the movie? It’s an homage to the silent era, but it’s got modern sensibilities — both retro and historical at the same time. It’s absurd to call it ‘conventional’ in any sense unless you’re comparing it to totally avant-garde movies like _Eraserhead_ by David Lynch or _Cowards Bend the Knee_ by Guy Maddin.

@95 — Okay, it wasn’t clear to me in your original comment whether you were implying that Hitchcock is over-scripted, but since you clearly enjoy fine films it makes sense that you’re a Hitchcock fan after all. I agree both approaches — tightly adhering to a finished script on the one hand and more loosely guided by the script, allowing for improvisation and redrafts, on the other — have their merits and can produce compelling motion pictures.

112. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - March 1, 2012

@91 — I am glad “The Artist” won, but I must admit I still haven’t seen _Hugo_ but fully intend to soon. I agree Scorcese is a great director. I love _Raging Bull_, _Good Fellas_, _Taxi Driver_, _The Departed_, _The Aviator_, _Casino_ and the list goes on.

113. Basement Blogger - March 1, 2012


Best Picture choices usually bring passionate debates. Remember “Hurt Locker” vs. “Avatar.” If you read my post you would note that I’m talking about the plot. The plot of the rise and fall of a star is old. Again see “Singing in the Rain” and “A Star is Born.” That’s what I meant by conventional. You and I could have written the movie. Let me put it this way, I was never surprised at any plot developments. AND YES, I DID SEE “THE ARTIST.” I don’t hate the movie, I consider it one of the best of the year..

Hugo was a 3D masterpiece. Director Scorsese never lets you forget you’re viewing the film in 3D. He does so without gimmicks even though I’m no 3D snob. I don’t mind things thrown at me but Scorsese avoids that. What he does do, is stage every shot to take advantage of the medium. And check out that genius first shots of the film. Hugo is about the magic of movies and in my opinion is best movie of the year.

114. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - March 1, 2012

^ cool, I respect your opinion, since you’ve seen it. You can thank Netflix member reviews for arousing my suspicion now with everyone. I can’t stand it when ppl review things they haven’t seen.

Anyway, I’m not the biggest fan of 3D, but on your recommendation I’ll try to go see Hugo while it’s still in 3D in theaters.

115. Buzz Cagney - March 1, 2012

#88 The BBC has very much more broad in its use of accents that it once was. You will hear all sorts of accents these days on the BEEB.
I wouldn’t say there is a standard English anymore. Certainly not the Queen’s English (gawd bless her on her Diamond Jubilee!).
I really love all accents, unless they are too broad.
I spent some time on the Scottish borders some years ago and really loved that accent. Very soft and gentle.

Michael Caine one your favourites, Vults? I think he’s great. I can recommend his autobiography. Some great stories. He even explains why he won’t eat ring doughnuts. You see, he once worked in a bakery and wasn’t too impressed at some of the things he witnessed being inserted into the ring portion of said doughnuts!

116. Vultan - March 2, 2012


Oh yeah, Caine is one of my favorites. I just watched “The Man Who Would Be King” the other night for the first time—loved it! Caine and Connery (and Christopher Plummer). What more could you ask for? Maybe… Shatner. ;)

Haven’t read any of Caine’s books, but I’m heading to the library this weekend and I’ll be on the lookout for them. I always enjoy his TV interviews, especially this one:


Have you ever heard the story of how he chose his screen surname?

117. Keachick - rose pinenut - March 2, 2012

#109 – Chris Pine has given his own views as in the guest cast and regular cast members getting to know each other and getting on and how he feels in awe about Benedict Cumberbatch acting abilities from he had seen at that stage of Cumby’s work – all available to the public. He has not spoken, though, about how long it took to do the scene or anything or stating whether someone else is angry or not over leaked pictures. Both the latter comments have directly to do with the rehearsal and filming process of the new Star Trek sequel or about how someone else is supposed to feel. If JJ Abrams is angry about something, then it is up to him to say so, or not…Nor did he make statements that seemed a little ambiguous as to their meaning relating to the ongoing work for the Star Trek movie.

Chris Pine spoke for himself and his perception of how everybody seemed to be getting on as work colleagues. Chris Pine seems to have a better understanding of just where the fine line actually is and so far has not crossed it or tilted over it.

No use of double standards on my part here.

118. Holger - March 2, 2012

I presume that JJ will simply be counting on spectacular visual effects painting over deficits in plot and his directing.

119. Buzz Cagney - March 2, 2012

I just Googled as to how Caine came to use that name.
from The Caine Mutiny starring Humphrey Bogart. Interestingly Bogie was
originally considered for the role that Sir Michael would come to play in The Man Who Would Be King!
And not a lot of people….. oh, you know the rest! ;))

120. chrisfawkes.com - March 2, 2012

118 “I presume that JJ will simply be counting on spectacular visual effects painting over deficits in plot and his directing.”

If only paramount could see your clarity of mind and dizzying intellect they would have you making the big bucks and steering the wheel of Star Trek.

Or they might just slip you some iocane.

121. Vultan - March 2, 2012


Yeah, and I also read that Newman and Redford were considered for it, too. And it was Paul Newman who recommended Caine and Connery—and the rest as they say is history.

122. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - March 2, 2012


I won’t get into it with you, but you are applying a double standard. Neither Zach nor Zoe have crossed any lines.


123. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - March 2, 2012

Forgive the typos… Thanks

124. Buzz Cagney - March 2, 2012

#122 i love the way you say you ‘won’t get into it with you’ then proceed to do just that. The very best way to not get into it is by not replying at all.
The typos i can let go btw. The replying when you seem to think you aren’t i can’t. You do it regularly. It really is a poor way of engaging with people.

125. Holger - March 3, 2012

Re 120: Sorry, wrong topic. I was talking about directing and plot, not about moneymaking.

126. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - March 3, 2012

Thanks, Buzz, but “getting into it” with her would have been to on with stating why and how a double standard is/was being applied. Simply saying that one was is not “engaging” someone, but continue to think what you like.

I didn’t say I wasn’t replying. Obviously, I was. What I said was that I wasn’t willing to get into a big back and forth argument over it. That’s not poor at all. And I’m not interested in your ‘forgiveness’ over doing that. There’s nothing to forgive. If you don’t like my posts, then you can skip over them, or take your own advice and stay silent.


127. AB - March 3, 2012

@ 101

“Wow sounds like the end was spoiled!”

That’s exactly what I thought when I read this. I’m wondering if things WERE “solidified” until that video was leaked.

128. Aurore - March 5, 2012

108. crazydaystrom – March 1, 2012
#104 Aurore-

Take all the time you need :-)

Yes ; that’s what I did. I HAD to!

Thank you for your… patience….


129. Aurore - March 5, 2012

….Thank you for your patience AND understanding.

If only someone would care to comment on my perseverance….in tnis quiet, deserted place…


130. Aurore - March 5, 2012

“If only someone would care to comment on my perseverance….in tnis quiet, deserted place…”

I can do that.

You made a typo in your (previous) post about perseverance.


131. Brock - March 12, 2012

I have a feeling the movie is going to be another enjoyable, flashy mess. But still not Star Trek (obviously)

132. stringgirl17 - March 19, 2012

I think it’s interesting to hear about every aspect of the movie. Can’t wait for it to come out.

Actors are people too. We need to support them in all aspects since they are working hard for us, and people…….quit whining.

133. LizardGirl - March 20, 2012

After watching the ’09 movie I went back and watched TOS for the first time….and then the movies….and then TNG….and then those movies! I will grudgingly admit that going back to watch ’09 I was able to agree with some complaints against it.

Old Trek had story lines that really made you think about stuff. Not so much with ’09. What was amazing with ’09, though, were the characters. They were raw but spot on and you really loved them whether for the first time or not. I believe that it’s a fantastic reintroduction into an old franchise.

But this time around I want to see a little more trek-ish plots. Star Trek Movies IV and VII are prime examples of what I mean: in Trek IV I love the whole idea of the Enterprise having to save an extinct species from the past in order to save the future and the subtle message behind that movie (plus Spock was hilarious). Also I’m a big Klingon fan and I thought it was a unique way to approach the joining of these two different federations in the 6th movie. I’ve come to appreciate the maturity of Trek not just the awesome costumes.

Explosions are great. So are cutting edge special effects and wonderful acting,but please do disappoint on the plot. Compare TOS to other Trek franchise you will see a difference in acting level and overall look (obvious given the time span) yet TOS is still very dear to my heart because the story lines were intriguing. Amok Time, Court Martial, Errand of Mercy, Journey to Babel, The Mark of Gideon, Plato’s Stepchildren are all great examples of intriguing story telling, a very important part of Trek.

Completely Random Note: I’m still kind of a sucker for fan service though. I have a reoccurring action fantasy that I’m just going to get out of my system here.

A small fantasy of mine (I believe that’s all it’ll ever be) is for the new cast (Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Checkov, and Uhura JUST ONCE!), to be stranded on some kind of dangerous jungle planet due to a transporter malfunction. I would love to see some red shirts fighting for their lives, Uhura kick butt like she did in “Mirror Mirror” AND a new race of aliens (maybe a grueling fight to the death with these aliens) AND maybe a love interest for Kirk.

Ok I think I’m finished.

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