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Watch: More Prometheus Footage Revealed March 28, 2012

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Lindelof,Prometheus , trackback

The original plan was for us to get the Star Trek sequel this June, but we will have to wait until next May for new Trek. However we here at TrekMovie are almost as excited over another June 2012 film – Prometheus, the Alien universe film directed by Ridley Scott and written by Trek co-producer/writer Damon Lindelof. More footage from the film has been released online, check it out below along with a new commercial. 

 

More Prometheus footage and new commercial

Here is some more footage from Prometheus that was shown at WonderCon.

And here is the third TV commercial.

Prometheus hits theaters on June 1st.

Total Recall Trailer Teaser

Another sci-fi movie getting a reboot this summer (August 3rd) is Total Recall, which features Star Trek’s John Cho in a supporting role. The first trailer for the film will be released this Sunday, but they have released a teaser to get you started. Here it is.

 

Comments

1. Amish Electrician - March 28, 2012

Whoa…this looks good

2. somethoughts - March 28, 2012

Nice, cant wait

3. tman - March 28, 2012

Prometheus looks like an amazing film. Hope this one ends up in the Gladiator/Kingdom of Heaven/Blade Runner/Alien bin and not the A Good Year/Robin Hood bin.

4. mojomonkey - March 28, 2012

Prometheus looks great but I’ll say again, you can see the trouble they have promoting it. The image of the “space jockey” means zero to the general public. They don’t even mention “Alien” probably because it has a *relatively* small fanbase that is already “sold” on the movie. And we get “From Director Ridley Scott” – again, beyond movie “geeks” or SF fans this means zero. His last hit was American Gangster which isn’t SF and is pretty much forgotten by the general public.

I hope it does well but these quick flashes of cool images don’t really work anymore. Who are these characters? Why do we care about them? What exactly is at stake? Where are they? What’s going on?

These days this is what the trailer tells the audience. So far “Prometheus” has not answered any of those questions. At some point they’re going to have to let go of the “see the movie and find out” tactic or they’ll have a very big budget “flop” on their hands. “Pay $10-$20 and find out” simply does not work at this time.

5. mojomonkey - March 28, 2012

#3 I loved RS’s Robin Hood and I’m a devout RH fanatic. He did the impossible and served up a fresh version of those characters without repeating the same few stories we know all too well. And visually, it’s one of his very vest films. It kills the Costner movie in every way imaginable. I walked out of RH on air. Brilliant film!

With Scott much relies on his theatrical cut. I don’t want to see Prometheus with 30 minutes of important content gutted out and have to wait for home video. I hope the film is complete in its theatrical release.

6. THX-1138 - March 28, 2012

I am so wickedly stoked to see Prometheus.

This looks like the way science fiction is done on the big screen. It certainly appears like what I read. It just may be one of the real mind-blowers of the upcoming movie season.

I promise not to spoil it.

7. THX-1138 - March 28, 2012

Oh yeah, Total Recall. Has anyone else heard that…*SPOILER*

*SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER*

(maybe)

……they don’t go to Mars in this one? If so that’s too bad. I sure wanted to see Colin Farrell’s eyes pop out of his head.

8. TrekMadeMeWonder - March 28, 2012

I don’t think anyone gets out alive in Prometheus.

Looks like a downer to me.

(que the blue-note) Booooowwwwwwwmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnn!

9. Basement Blogger - March 28, 2012

@ 5

I can’t agree with you on Ridley Scott’s Robin Hood. That movie was absolutely joyless. Looking for fun scene where Robin meets Little John with a physical duel. Nope. They fight over a shell game. Max Von Sydow who plays Marion’s dad was made to look senile. There’s no chemistry between Russell Crowe and Cate Blanchett who plays Marion. Crowe acts glum during the whole movie Oscar Issac as Prince John is way over the top. . And the film is drained of color. Oh, I forgot. It’s a prequel, so there’s none of that “steal from the rich. give to the poor” stuff. Rotten Tomatoes scores the movie at 43 per cent.

Want histoical drama from Scott? See “The Duellists.” His best movies are “Alien”, “Blade Runner, the director’s cut” “Thelma and Lousie” and “Gladiator..”

10. Vultan - March 28, 2012

#7

Hollywood may be trying to avoid the red planet now.
Only NASA has had more failures there.

11. Battle-scarred Sciatica - March 28, 2012

@6 THX

I am still gagging to know what you know!!!! :)

Prometheus looks fantastic and i hope it lives up to its trailer – it looks like it should.

Total Recall – Why?

12. Basement Blogger - March 28, 2012

11

I think the Russians have had more failures with Mars,

13. THX-1138 - March 28, 2012

#12

Actually, Disney is starting to lead the pack with Mars disasters.

Mars Needs Moms
John Carter (formerly of Mars)

14. Basement Blogger - March 28, 2012

I’m very interested in Prometheus. Ridley Scott is an artist when it comes to how he can make a movie look. See “Blade Runner.” “The Duellists.” Excited to see how he uses 3D. Remember he shot “Prometheus” in 3D; none of that fake 3D stuff called conversions. The bar has been set high for 3D cinema with Martin Scorsese’s “Hugo” and Wim Wender’s’ “Pina.”

15. Vultan - March 28, 2012

#9

Agreed. When it comes to Robin Hood, Errol Flynn is still the king.

Okay, okay, those green tights might be more than a little silly, but that end duel between Flynn and Basil Rathbone is still one of the best action sequences out there. Plus, the movie has enough energy to run the country’s electrical grid for a few days!

16. THX-1138 - March 28, 2012

Battle-scarred

I promised not to tell. But, like a teenage girl with a secret, I’m just dying to. As a friend I will keep my mouth shut. If you lived anywhere near me I’d take you to see the movie, though.

17. mojomonkey - March 28, 2012

#7 LOL. Great line!

#11. TR: agreed. It’s probably even *further* removed from PKD.

#12 The Russians are having as many “failures” as we (USA) did getting to the Moon. At least they’re *pursuing* it! We’re just sitting on our hands playing politics over here. A real disgrace IMO.

#9. I disagree with you on all things Robin Hood 2010. I don’t go by RT’s and I am very familiar with Scott’s work. RH was *definitely* not drained of color, like KOH was, it has a rich, lush visual texture. But we’ll just have to cordially disagree. Hopefully we’ll both love Prometheus which looks bleedin’ amazing :)

18. Vultan - March 28, 2012

As for Costner’s Robin Hood, well, it does have many things wrong with it… but it is FUN. C’mon, you can’t deny it. It’s a guilty pleasure, sure, but it IS a pleasure to watch (once in a while).

I didn’t get that from Scott’s version.
Why so serious, Ridley?

19. Jai - March 28, 2012

There’s a whole bunch of stuff on this website: http://www.prometheusnews.net/. It’s being constantly updated with new information. The movie’s online marketing campaign includes multiple viral websites, various easter eggs, codes for fans to crack, new clues to the storyline etc. They’ve even managed to work the famous “Wow !” signal into it.

The movie’s official “Weyland Industries” website is also regularly being updated, and now includes a mass of detailed background information relevant to the storyline: https://www.weylandindustries.com/ . Click on the drop-down boxes beneath the Weyland Industries logo on the top-left-hand-side of the screen to access most of it. The “Corporate Timeline” and “Investor Information” sections are particularly interesting.

The Prometheus marketing/PR team are obviously putting a huge amount of intelligent and creative thought into all this. Very impressive.

20. Basement Blogger - March 28, 2012

@ 15

It’s hard to follow a classic like Errol Flynn’s Robin Hood. Think of trying to record “One For My Baby.”/ (“It’s a quarter till three…” ) Frank Sinatra owns that song.

Kevin Costner’s version was bizarre. Costner, played mostly straight. But what was up with Will Scarlett drama queen stuff? Who put Christian Slater in the movie? Alan Rickman plays the Sheriff of Nottingham for laughs. And what the hell is Morgan Freeman doing in a medieval movie about Robin Hood?

21. Vultan - March 28, 2012

#20

–Better yet, who put Christian Slater in Starfleet?

–Morgan Freeman was there because Morgan Freeman can make a bad movie like this one at least watchable.

–Same goes for Alan Rickman.

Like I said, it’s a bad movie. But it’s a FUN bad movie.

22. mojomonkey - March 28, 2012

#18 I’ve well & truly hated the Reynolds/Costner RH since I walked out of the movie theater in 1991. There are plenty of fun RH movies that are better: the Hammer “trilogy”; the MGM 1939; the Disney live action; the Richard Greene series; and my favorite, the 1980′s ITV series starring Michael Praed. Scott gave us something new and fresh that was written up to an adult audience. I think it’ll come around like so many of his films, “Blade Runner” “Legend” “KOH”.

#19 We’ll see come June. At this point, you can kind of see these things coming around the bend. I’m not seeing any real activity on boards devoted to SF-type groups (even here it’s same couple of people expressing interest) and they keep hitting us with: (portentous music) VWOOP! enigmatic image – VWOOP! enigmatic image – VWOOP! enigmatic image etc. I would think by now they’d know better than to use this quickly fading form of advertising. The film is *estimated* at $200,000,000 budget, which puts it in JC range. It will have to do extraordinary business to succeed.

23. Battle-scarred Sciatica - March 28, 2012

@16 THX

I’ll book my flight tickets right now!

You pay the entry fee and I’ll get the popcorn and first round of beers in! :)

24. Basement Blogger - March 28, 2012

@ 21

I see your point about Costner’s Robin Hood being a guilty pleasure. Going back to Ridley Scott, he produced a recent guilty pleasure. “The A Team.” Blasted by some critics, I thought it was goofy fun. .Clever Star Trek reference when a faux 3D movie was played in it, there was credit for Reginald Barclay who was played by Dwight Schultz, who also played Murdock in the TV series.

25. THX-1138 - March 28, 2012

#21 Vultan

Mary Jo Slater, Christian Slater’s mom. She is a casting agent and got him the gig in TUC, I believe at his request. He’s a Trek fan.

#23

Dang, Battle-scarred. Been a long time since I snuck beer into a theater.

26. Vultan - March 28, 2012

Though he’s already playing Sherlock Holmes, I can’t help but wonder what sort of Robin Hood Benedodge Cucumber would make…

Anyway, Prometheus looks great. Great cast. Great director.
Hopefully, the script is great as well.

27. THX-1138 - March 28, 2012

Benedodge Cucumber

Seriously. That’s funny.

BTW is anyone else here? It seems like there areonly a couple of us commenting on everything.

28. MJ - March 28, 2012

I would put in another vote here for Scott’s version of Robin Hood. Yea, maybe it wasn’t as fun, but I did feel like I was actually seeing the Middle Ages versus the Costner film, which wasn’t all that realistic looking.

29. MJ - March 28, 2012

Guys, the Errol Flynn version bears no resemblance to something that could have really occurred in the middle ages at all. It is one of the most historically inaccurate movies ever made. A modern analogy would be Sucker Punch.

30. MJ - March 28, 2012

Regarding Total Recall, first of all, the concept of a mini-trailer promoting a trailer release really pisses me off for some reason — do the Hollywood marketing gurus really consider us “cattle” really that dumb that we now need trailers for trailers?

Secondly, I heard the really messed with Philip K. Dicks story and the movie doesn’t even go to Mars now…count me out….looks to me like a Cowboys and Aliens treatment of a classic…no thanks!

31. Vultan - March 28, 2012

#27

Thanks.

And yeah, I’ve noticed there haven’t been very many posters on this site recently. Slow news these days. Not much on the new Trek movie. And all the rest is filler—but Prometheus is GOOD filler!

More please….

32. Vultan - March 28, 2012

#29

Agreed. I don’t need bread crumbs to lead me to a movie.
Just give us a full frackin’ trailer and be done with it!

33. dmduncan - March 28, 2012

This movie looks so damned good that they don’t NEED to reference the material it was based on at all.

This is kicking ass while standing alone territory right here.

Looks absolutely brilliant.

34. MJ - March 28, 2012

@33 DM, are you talking about Total Recall in reference to the Phillip K. Dick source story, or Prometheus in regards to the Alien source movie?

35. dmduncan - March 28, 2012

@33: Oh, sorry, Prometheus!

36. MJ - March 28, 2012

Ah, I fully agree then!

37. Battle-scarred Sciatica - March 28, 2012

Oh Vultan you have done it again with Benedodge Cucumber!
I unintentionally sprayed my monitor with coffee and nearly died choking

Brindlehorn Curtain-thatch would be soooo proud!

38. Basement Blogger - March 28, 2012

Well,, we can all agree that Prometheus looks great. And by the way, I can probably guess whtat the movie is about by looking at the trailer. So what? I still want to see the film. If the plot is Noomi Rapace believes aliens are inviiting humans to find them. But surprise, it’s more sinister. The footage looks great and the trailers do what they are supposed to do.

It’s like knowing that Star Trek 2013 has Khan as a villain. Come on J.J, you might as well tell us. :-) I mean we knew Bane was going to be in the new Batman movie and Ann Hathaway was Selena Kyle aka Catwoman. I still want to see both movies.

39. MJ - March 28, 2012

Hot off the press on the new Jack Ryan movie…sounds like it might be emerging finally from development hell:

http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/2012/03/thor-director-tapped-helm-new-jack-ryan-adaptation

40. MJ - March 28, 2012

@38 “It’s like knowing that Star Trek 2013 has Khan as a villain. Come on J.J, you might as well tell us. :-) I mean we knew Bane was going to be in the new Batman movie and Ann Hathaway was Selena Kyle aka Catwoman. I still want to see both movies.”

Yes, we know its Khan. It fits three patterns:

1) The utterly ridiculous level of secrecy on this film in regards to the villian…I mean, if its Khan, then it explains the incredible steps to keeping the lid on things.

2) We know that BC looks like a human character who can withstand the Vulcan nerve pinch and beat the living crap out of Spock…hence a Botany Bay superhuman leaders named Khan, or at least a close relation

3) Orci left what I took to be a clue directed for me late last year in on the following exchange he and I had concerning whether Khan would be in the next movie:

“259. boborci – December 3, 2011
Im so ashamed.”

“260. MJ – December 3, 2011
@259. That JJ lied about Khan?”

“261. boborci – December 3, 2011″
But i am touched by some if ya’lls concern for my cOnfidence!

“262. MJ – December 3, 2011
“cOnfidence” I knew it. this is basically saying KHANfidence — that is why you had the “O” capitalized. Thanks for the clue, Bob. It will be interesting to see how JJ backpeddels on his fib.”

Take all of the above together, and it is clear it was Khan. And don’t forget when it is fully confirmed that I had this figured out way back when, folks. :-)

41. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 28, 2012

I wonder if these Aliens will make good pets.

42. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 28, 2012

Hmm. Maybe the Starship Enterprise will one day get to the Homeworld of these Aliens. Then. The Predator’s will try and Ambush the Enterprise as the ship is being invaded by the Alien’s.

43. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 28, 2012

The best Robin Hood movie ever was .
Robin Hood. Men in Tight’s. Now that was good.

44. mojomonkey - March 28, 2012

If it’s Khan I’m not going to see it. Saw it in ’82, thanks very much.

45. CmdrR - March 28, 2012

Grrr. Can’t watch the video in China. Gonna have to wait til I get back to Georgia. 3 whole days. What will I do to pass the time???

Oh, and… PLEASE… hold the Khan.

46. MJ - March 28, 2012

@45. I doubt you’ll be able to get it in Georgia either…unless you get a good international internet connection at a top hotel in T’bilisi.

47. Red Dead Ryan - March 28, 2012

#40.

Well, MJ, you and I are in the minority when it comes to believing Khan as the sequel villain. I figured they were going to go with Khan because all of them have repeatedly referenced the character as well as “Space Seed” and “The Wrath Of Khan”. The fact that they’ve been so secretive about this makes a lot of sense.

“Prometheus” looks like a modern classic. Can’t wait for it. “Total Recall”, meh. It looks more like “Minority Report”. I do hope it takes place on Mars.

#44.

“If it’s Khan I’m not going to see it. Saw it in ’82, thanks very much.”

Yeah, whatever you say pal. I’ll bet 100 bars of gold-pressed latinum that you’ll be one of the first in line to see it.

48. TrekMadeMeWonder - March 28, 2012

40. MJ

I think the next Pic will have a few TOS plots. Who can blame Bob or JJ or any of them? Would’nt you just love to craft a TOS storyline for a major motion picture?

Would you be able to keep your hands out of the TOS cookie jar?

49. Jack - March 28, 2012

40. Gosh, I hope not.

I can’t wait until this thing premieres and speculation ends — maybe we’ll even have 10-15 quiet minutes before the bashing starts. ;)

50. Vultan - March 28, 2012

Hey, it could be Khan in the next flick. But as much as I squint my eyes and stretch my imagination… I still can’t see Khan Noonien Singh, the Sikh strongman from Mexico with a love for Corinthian leather imported from Detroit, being played by… Beanobrit Cumberpants.

I could be wrong, but I think this particular Übermensch may be a different character. Probably a stereotypical British bad guy named… Lord Cheeky Cricket of planet Henry VIII.

51. Jack - March 28, 2012

PS. it seems like every trailer these days is doing the same (or a similar thing) thing with the music/sound — having that deep scary tone either every few seconds or every time there’s a scene change. #trailertrends #pointlessobservations

52. Basement Blogger - March 28, 2012

@ 40, 44

Became convinced it was Khan for the following reasons.

1. They tried to get Benicio Del Toro for the villain. Then they started to look at other Hispanic actors. Link. TOS’s Khan was the great Hispanic actor, Ricardo Montalban.

2.. The leaked pictures and video. Cumberbatch plays a human looking character. No pointed ears.

3. He’s strong enough to avoid Spock’s nerve pinch. Chokes Spock with one hand. And he beats the daylights out of Spock. Now remember Spock is Vulcan and stronger than humans. That makes Cumberbatch’s character a superhuman. Cumberbatch mentioned in a MTV interview I think that he had to work out for the part. Got to keep up with Montalban’s prodigious chest. Anyway, It looks like it takes a phaser shot from Uhura to subdue him.

Now it could be a new villain. Cumberbatch does have pointed sideburns and was wearing what looked like one of those Starfleet black shirts. But the evidence points to Khan. As far as Bob’s dialog with you, MJ, I see your point. Might I add that Bob can have some fun with us. Name for the Enterprise’s deflector dish anyone? Remember that?

As for bringing back Khan. I’m not for it. Been there, done that. That doesn’t mean they won’t make a great movie. I won’t cast judgment until I see the film. I

Looking for Hispanic actors to play Khan… er the villain.

http://collider.com/star-trek-2-villain-edgar-ramirez-khan/131002/

53. Red Dead Ryan - March 28, 2012

#52.

Yup!

54. CmdrR - March 28, 2012

They can’t do Khan. The Mullett Wig is holding out for rewrite approval and 5% of aftermarket sales.

55. MJ - March 28, 2012

@52 @53

Yes, and let me make something clear, although I am predicting it is Khan, and what we know so far fits my case that it is, I would have also preferred a new more sf type of story here as well versus another action-revenge sort of movie. But given they have decided to go in the direction of a Khan-based action movie, I am still looking forward to it and hoping that it is a great Trek film.

56. Hugh Hoyland - March 28, 2012

I cant help but be totally stoked for Prometheus.

Its been far to long since Scott has done Sci-Fi. Since Blade Runner in fact (One of my all time favorite movies of any genre).

This movie looks simply amazing. I simply cant wait for it to come out.

57. Red Dead Ryan - March 28, 2012

#55.

Yup!

58. Greystoke - March 28, 2012

Re: 4

Exactly my thoughts when watching the trailer –

I’ll just add this — the John Carter promotional campaign was just that sort of flashy images with no idea of story or character — I read the books and had no idea what the movie was about, even after watching ten minutes of it. We saw how effective that was.

I get exactly the same feeling from the Prometheus promos I’ve seen.

And as far as Robin Hood goes — I got 3 letters for you:

Meh.

59. Red Dead Ryan - March 28, 2012

I don’t want trailers to give me all the details. Its not a meal, merely an appetizer. I want hints, and clues. The answers should be provided by the movie itself.

I do think trailers should establish what kind of movie the audience should see. And I’m thinking on the basis of the trailers we have seen so far for “Prometheus”, this film is going to be creepy, dark, claustrophobic, suspenseful, and thought-provoking. A lot like the first “Alien”.

60. MJ - March 28, 2012

@58. You need to go back and read the John Carter books again the….I have read the first three about 4 times…because your comment that you “had not idea what the movie was about” shows to me that you could use some remedial Burroughs reading. 75% of the movie was pretty close to elements in the first three books, and the remaining 25% simply updated some elements to more modern times.

People are confusing a pretty darn good movie here with and absolutely horrid marketing campaign.

And BTW, the movie is approaching $200M overseas now, which may get us a sequel after all.

61. Andy Patterson - March 28, 2012

@60

MJ, you’re right about John Carter. Shame it hasn’t done better. And I hear Disney’s going to eat 200 million on it despite overseas sales.

62. Alf - March 29, 2012

My god, it’s full of AWESOME

63. Jai - March 29, 2012

Re: #19:

“The movie’s official “Weyland Industries” website is also regularly being updated, and now includes a mass of detailed background information relevant to the storyline: https://www.weylandindustries.com/ . Click on the drop-down boxes beneath the Weyland Industries logo on the top-left-hand-side of the screen to access most of it. The “Corporate Timeline” and “Investor Information” sections are particularly interesting.”

Seriously folks, if you haven’t checked out this website already, you should definitely take a look. It’s part of the official Prometheus marketing campaign supplementing the trailers, and it contains all kinds of goodies explaining the backstory of the movie, including the global & offworld events in the decades leading up to the film’s timeframe. It really helps put everything into context. There are also numerous nods to the eventual nature of “The Company”, the military and the major technologies as depicted in the original “Alien” and “Aliens” movies.

The trailers are great, but they only show the tip of the iceberg; you also have to read through the info in the “Weyland Industries” website to get the full picture.

It’s brilliantly done.

64. mojomonkey - March 29, 2012

#63 Our complete lack of interest in the promotional website should be an indication of the campaigns’ lack of success. Yeah…something’s not clicking into place here. I’m not seeing a very bright future for Prometheus at the B.O. especially with the competition it’s up against. But we’ll see opening w/e…

65. montreal_paul - March 29, 2012

Enough about it being Khan! It won’t be a remake of Space Seed. And for those of you who are saying “well, he is able to get our of a neck pinch and beat up Spock.” Hello… have you guys ever watched TOS? Spock has been overpowered by more than a few people. I am so sick of all this Khan talk. Mark my words, it won’t be him. They are coming up with a new story… that was the whole reason for creating this new universe.

66. Vultan - March 29, 2012

Don’t worry about Prometheus’ box office. Just enjoy the ride.

If it does great, then great—big, serious sci-fi cinema is back from the grave. Or if it’s an incredible movie that doesn’t make money, even better—another Blade Runner, a future classic, a misunderstood gem that needn’t be watered down with a long line of cash cow sequels, prequels and remakes.

It’s win-win for us… well, unless it’s a bad movie….

67. Captain Ransom - March 29, 2012

it’s not gonna be khan, you fools. it’s gonna be the GORN.

‘kirk, thissss isssss your opponent!’

68. Jai - March 29, 2012

DMDuncan, re: #33:

“Looks absolutely brilliant.”

It sure does. Prometheus is receiving quite a lot of coverage in the media here in Britain; it’s one of the most eagerly awaited movies of the year.

“This movie looks so damned good that they don’t NEED to reference the material it was based on at all.”

True, but all the new background information steadily being revealed does help you understand the wider context of the story. There are a lot of subtle clues about what’s actually going on too (see #63). Believe me, you’re going to be even more excited about the movie than you already are after you’ve read all that.

The “Corporate Timeline” section of the Weyland Industries website also mentions the “Cosmic Calls” being received at multiple target star systems by the timeframe of the movie. I bet you already know about all this, but Wikipedia has details on the real-life message transmission dates and the projected dates of arrival: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call . It’s clever how this has been subtly worked into the broader Prometheus storyline too (I’m guessing that transmitting those messages turns out to be a suicidally bad mistake).

69. Jai - March 29, 2012

THX-1138, re: #6:

“This looks like the way science fiction is done on the big screen. It certainly appears like what I read. It just may be one of the real mind-blowers of the upcoming movie season.”

I haven’t read what you’re referring to, but I have read all the information on the Weyland Industries website along with the clues steadily being revealed on the “Prometheus News” website. (I’ve obviously seen the various trailers too). There’s now enough information for people to potentially be able to connect the dots. If I’ve accurately figured it out and the “big secret” of the movie really is what I think it is (and what you seem to already know), then you’re right: This is going to be one fantastic story. Terrifying in its implications too.

70. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 29, 2012

This might seem a weird/dumb question but what does Prometheus refer to? A space ship? A planet? (I’ve only seen the Alien films once – not that enamoured by them). I am curious, since this film has created so much buzz and the title is interesting.

71. Jai - March 29, 2012

The “Prometheus News” website has scanned a long interview Ridley Scott, Damon Lindelof etc gave to Empire magazine. You can read the whole article online: http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/exclusive-empire-magazine/ . Very interesting. It includes some more clues about the story. Epic stuff.

The Empire article mentions “Star Trek V: The Final Frontier” too, and not in a good way ;)

72. Vultan - March 29, 2012

#70

I believe the name Prometheus is the name of the company’s project that takes them to the alien planet. Also, notice in the trailer he says: “Prometheus has landed.” Obviously, this is a reference to Apollo 11 (“The Eagle has landed.”), but that probably means the ship itself is named Prometheus as well.

73. George Zip - March 29, 2012

#13

Despite assurances that I would hate it, I took my family to see JOHN CARTER a couple of weekends ago, and we really enjoyed it. It’s uneven in a lot of spots — has the feel of a first episode of a series — but the music was great (Giacchino), the casting was quite good, and the story, though changed, was close enough to keep it enjoyable for me.

My only complaint was that Dejah should have been nearly nude, as it was in the book. ;)

74. George Zip - March 29, 2012

#71

Uh-oh; the web site has been suspended. I wonder if Empire came after them?

75. MJ - March 29, 2012

@64 “#63 Our complete lack of interest in the promotional website should be an indication of the campaigns’ lack of success. Yeah…something’s not clicking into place here. I’m not seeing a very bright future for Prometheus at the B.O. especially with the competition it’s up against. But we’ll see opening w/e…”

Monkeyman, you come up with the wackiest conclusions in your posts sometimes. LOL

76. MJ - March 29, 2012

@65 “Enough about it being Khan! It won’t be a remake of Space Seed. And for those of you who are saying “well, he is able to get our of a neck pinch and beat up Spock.” Hello… have you guys ever watched TOS? Spock has been overpowered by more than a few people. I am so sick of all this Khan talk. Mark my words, it won’t be him. They are coming up with a new story… that was the whole reason for creating this new universe.”

Yes, I am marking your words here. It is going to be Khan, and when I serve the crow out to those of you who will be proved wrong here, I am going to save you a seat at the head of the crow buffet table — I’ll seat you right new to Keachick! And will look forward to both of you and others delivering toasts to me for being right on this all along! :-)

77. Patroclus - March 29, 2012

@70. Keachick
Prometheus is a character from Greek mythology. He favored mankind, by stealing fire from the gods and giving it to the mortals, essentially helping to kickstart human civilization, progress and evolution. Zeus punished him by chaining him to a high rock cliff and having a huge eagle eat out his regenerating liver each day for eternity, until Hercules eventually freed him.

In the trailer it seems to be the name of their ship.

78. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 29, 2012

Oh my! MJ – Are you going to fly me to Los Angeles for the Star Trek premiere which will no doubt take place in that wee city? And montreal paul as well? Yes, please! And a pass to meet the cast in person, especially that one they refer to as Captain fine Chris Pine/Kirk!

You are such a dear. I am so excited… OK, I’ve never eaten crow, but there could always be a first time…:)

79. Newman - March 29, 2012

I can’t wait to see this movie

80. Sebastian S. - March 29, 2012

I’m really looking forward to this one. Hopefully, it’ll mark Ridley Scott’s prodigal return to science fiction (after ALIEN and Blade Runner). I love that the trailers use the same ‘scream’ used in the original 1979 ALIEN trailer, as well as the Space Jockey and LV-246 derelict.

Again, my spidey geek-sense is tingling like crazy for this one….

81. Sebastian S. - March 29, 2012

# 65. Montreal Paul

I agree with you 110%; Benedict Cumberbatch is not playing Khan.
He is not playing a brown skinned, dark-eyed Sikh warrior from Northern India (in fact, a Sikh on these very boards agreed with my take on it). Take a good look; BC’s a pasty faced Englishman with bright blue eyes! If it were true (about him playing Khan)? It would be the most racially insulting casting since Mickey Rooney playing a Japanese landlord in “Breakfast at Tiffany’s.”

I don’t deny the possibility that he may be playing another augment from Khan’s crew (although I cringe at the utter lack of imagination that would indicate for the story). But I’d also like to remind folks that Spock dropped one of Khan’s augments with a single nerve pinch in sickbay (a friend and I just saw “Space Seed” last week in fact). Augments (at least in TOS) are not ‘neckpinch resistant.’

It’s NOT Khan. Moving on now….

82. MJ - March 29, 2012

@81. Dude, I just added you to my serving crow party table. I might ask you to sing a song for me as well, so be ready.

83. Sebastian S. - March 29, 2012

All I can say is that there is NO good or valid reason to believe the villain is Khan; nothing in either “Space Seed” or “Wrath of Khan” leads me to believe he’s the villain in the next movie. Benedict Cumberbatch (a fine actor) playing Khan would be a disaster of ‘John Wayne as Genghis Khan’ proportions.

And how do you take your crow? With or without humble pie? ;-D

84. Vultan - March 29, 2012

#83

Don’t forget Marlon Brando playing Japanese in “Teahouse of the August Moon.” Not quite as cringe-worthy as Mickey Rooney playing Asian, but it’s close.

And if lily white Banjo Cabbagepatch is playing Trek’s Khan, or if the character is in the movie at all, it would be a stunning disappointment. I mean, that would be like reusing the alien-creature-as-torture plot device or the superweapon capable of destroying an entire planet or the insane villain out for revenge. Just crazy. So unimaginative. Hope it never happens….

85. MJ - March 29, 2012

Actually guys, for other reasons (most importantly, that I would prefer a more sf Trek movies versus action-revenge movie) than your concerns about the racial implications, I would prefer that Khan is not in the movie. However, the evidence fits it being Khan, and so I have to stick with that prediction based on what I think I have figured out here (see my earlier post with the 3 reasons explained).

The race thing doesn’t bother me all that much. Remember how people were so aghast that in the new BG that Starbuck was being played by a woman? Well, that worked out pretty well after all.

86. Vultan - March 29, 2012

#85

Race and gender are totally different issues when it comes to acting. A Mexican may be able to get away with playing a Sikh, but I doubt someone like Dustin Hoffman or Robin Williams could get away with playing a woman. A sharp guy like Charles Durning or Pierce Brosnan would see right through it. ;)

87. MJ - March 29, 2012

@86 Huh? Sorry, I am not buying it. I mean come on guys, we already know that Khan and his ship did not leave the earth in the 1990′s after the Eugenics Wars…those wars never freaking happened! So changing Khan around a bit in terms of appearance seems minor to me — they would have to change the whole Khan story around anyway given the source or Khan and his people is no longer viable anyway.

88. Vultan - March 29, 2012

#86

Just having some fun with the whole actors switching genders thing, referencing “Tootsie” and “Mrs. Doubtfire” respectively.

As for the Eugenics Wars, they don’t have to specifically reference them at all. The more recent Treks such as Enterprise just ignored the actual dates and carried on with the idea of genetically engineered people. Simple enough.

But changing a character’s race… what’s the point? And why exactly would they go with Bandaid Cumberwagon when, unlike the late ’60s, there are plenty of talented mainstream Indian actors available? Just doesn’t add up… unless Abrams just really, really likes Sherlock.

89. TrekkerChick - March 29, 2012

What is funny is that I was watching ST:2009 the other night, withthe commentary, and kept it playing into the credit sequence.

Now they might have been pulling our legs, but I’m pretty certain recalling that they mentioned the considering showing the BB during the start of the end credits sequence/end of Leonard’s v.o.

I don’t really have a preference (SS/TWOK-based v some other story), but found that interesting.

Hey, who knows, maybe Khan died in the BB because Porthos v6.0 rematerialized in Khan – leaving him (KNS) with floppy ears, and a cold, wet dog nose. LOL

90. MJ - March 29, 2012

@88. Yea, but they tried first to get Hispanic actors to fill the part…what does that tell you? They only ended up with BC because Toro said now and BC blew them away in the screen test (i.e. probably below away Jordi Mulla and several others)….i.e, he was the best actor available for the part…race be damned. So, yea, I think we have a white Khan here, like it or not.

91. Red Dead Ryan - March 29, 2012

Why is it okay for a black actor to play a white character (Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin in “Daredevil”) but not a white actor playing a role originally played by a white-looking Mexican who had to be painted darker because he wasn’t dark enough or didn’t look like a Sikh at all in the first place?

Ricardo Montalban, without the black wig and the make-up, DID NOT look like an East Indian character. In fact, in TWOK, he did not look Sikh AT ALL.

The double standards on this site drive me nuts.

92. Red Dead Ryan - March 29, 2012

If Khan Noonien Singh was a real, historical figure, then I would agree that hiring someone of East Indian descent would be essential. But we’re dealing with a totally fictional character here, folks.

93. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 29, 2012

I see that you, MJ, have ignored my post. I can’t get to that party where I and others will be eating crowing and buying and toasting you with the finest wine unless I have a return ticket from NZ to US paid for by you, kind sir.

Otherwise, there will be no eating of crow or humble pie by us plebes without that magical MJ crystal ball and you will be drinking alone…:)

94. Red Dead Ryan - March 29, 2012

#93.

Well, part of losing a bet is paying up. I would think that MJ would expect you to pay for your own ticket, otherwise if he pays, then it really isn’t much of a victory, now is it? :-D

BTW, condolences to you for the loss of your beloved cat. He might’ve have died young (domestic cats can live into their twenties) but it sounds like you have a lot of fond memories. That’s the important part. That he loved you and you loved him.

95. Mel - March 29, 2012

60. MJ – March 28, 2012

“And BTW, the movie is approaching $200M overseas now, which may get us a sequel after all.”

I haven’t seen John Carter. So no idea, if I should root for it or not. ;-)

But one thing is clear. It is a financial flop and I REALLY doubt, that there will be a sequel. The production budget was $250 million!!! So far it made only $235 million worldwide. On average, studios earn approximately 55 percent of the final gross. Even a $500 million gross would barely make it profitable.

96. Mel - March 29, 2012

I also think the Prometheus trailers aren’t the best. You can hardly see anything, because they cut scenes fast and everything is very dark. I know it is in space somewhere and something bad is going on and not much more. The human factor is missing. The trailers are all about the special effects, but not about the characters.

97. Vultan - March 29, 2012

#92

I see your point, but there’s usually some attempt on the part of actors and directors to create an illusion of that person being someone else. In “Space Seed,” Khan is far from a devout Sikh (no beard, no turban, etc.), though he—and Montalban—is what a ’60s American WASP audience would consider “exotic” or “foreign.” And his main squeeze does paint a picture of him in traditional Sikh garb, so they were at least trying to cast the character in that light.

But hey, Cumberbatch could very well be playing Khan. I just hope they explain why this guy named Khan Singh looks like Sherlock Holmes with a bad haircut and a cheap trench coat. And more Niles Crane than Superman.

98. Red Dead Ryan - March 29, 2012

#97.

Maybe Cumberbatch, as Khan, doesn’t look like a superman because he got his hair cut, and changed his appearance to infiltrate Starfleet as a way to conquer the Federation. or to steal a Federation starship?

99. MJ - March 29, 2012

Keachick, seriously, sorry to hear about the loss of your cat!

100. MJ - March 29, 2012

@96. Actually, that is what I love about the Promethius trailer…unlike most trailers today, which give away pretty much the whole damn movies, the Promethius trailes shows us some cool stuff without giving us a summary of everything in the plot.

101. Vultan - March 29, 2012

#98

Could be, could be. Only time will tell. Or the leaks will—sooner.

Ditto about the loss of your cat, Keachick. Not easy losing a pet, especially a young one. My condolences.

102. Kirk, James T. - March 30, 2012

Ah I still don’t know about Prometheus. I mean the original 1979 Alien movie was a one off, like 2001 but then because it was successful there was another and another and another and then it became so stupid with AVP that I’ve got to wonder whether or not Alien was just a one hit wonder.

Whereas in Star Trek or the super-hero movies you have a continuing story that could go anywhere, with Alien it was one story with other stories shoe-horned in just so the studio can make more money.

How ever good Prometheus may be, isn’t it time to stop shoe-horning in history to an already established story.

It would be like Perter Jackson putting in a new, original story that tells the origins of Gandalf to Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit.

Either do a JJ Abrams and start from scratch in an alternate universe or just leave well alone.

103. Sebastian S. - March 30, 2012

# 95.

Mel? John Carter is a good movie. Don’t listen to the negative hype.

Takes a while to really get going, and it’s a bit overlong, but it is also surprisingly faithful to the first John Carter book, “Princess of Mars”, the CG characters (particularly Tars Tarkas) are photo-real and interact seamlessly with the live actors (DaFoe’s Tarkas is everything Jar Jar Binks should’ve been), and by the end of the movie, I’d found I’d really enjoyed it. It’s a slow simmer, not a flash burn; but it’s a solid, steampunk era fantasy with solid actors and a nicely furnished fantasy landscape. I’m surprised by all the negative press it’s received.

Disney made a HUGE mistake by not playing this movie up as Pixar’s first live-action movie; it might’ve got some of that Pixar-fan mojo going. As it is? It just kind of fell through some unfortunate marketing cracks. A real shame. I think this movie will be a future cult favorite; awaiting rediscovery by a more patient audience someday….

104. mojomonkey - March 30, 2012

#102

“It would be like Perter Jackson putting in a new, original story that tells the origins of Gandalf to Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. ”

Uh, he’s doing that! It’s called “The Hobbit” and it features tons of made-up crap since Jackson does not have the right to dramatize key background content from the Silmarillion or Unfinished Tales.

Otherwise, I agree with you.

105. mojomonkey - March 30, 2012

#96 Thanks. They’ve got to alter their course soon or audiences are going to pass over Prometheus in a summer overcrowded with easier to understand, colorful family movies.

106. Hugh Hoyland - March 30, 2012

I havent had the chance to see John Carter but I will.

The constant thing I read or hear from viewers is that its either “not bad” or more often “pretty good!”. What the “professional” movie critics say about it does not interest me.

But I will say this, the marketing for this movie was awful IMO.

In fact when I first watched the trailers I found them so bland that they almost turned me off from going.

If I didnt believe in conspiracies (which I do) I would swear someone(s) wanted this movie to fail from the get go. Again Im not saying thats what happened but either way someone dropped the ball on that for sure.

107. mojomonkey - March 30, 2012

#106

JC is a landmark SF film. Don’t miss it!! Everyone who waits for video will be hugely disappointed that they missed seeing this on the Big Screen.

There are rumors that higher-ups at Disney wanted the movie to fail…

108. MJ - March 30, 2012

Agreed — John Carter is a good movie. Ignore the Hollywood elite and go see it.

109. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 30, 2012

Thank you, everyone, for your kind words.

#104 – Why wouldn’t Peter Jackson have permission to use material from Tolkien’s other books which relate/give background to what is in the Hobbit and LOTR? It was Tolkien’s surviving family, namely son Christopher Tolkien who is also his father’s executor to the literary estate, who has/is overseeing Peter Jackson’s work on interpreting his father’s literary works. It does not make any sense that Christopher Tolkien would not allow Jackson to use material from the Silmarillion and other books.

110. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 30, 2012

#94 – If MJ is wrong, he pays for my return ticket…and he ain’t getting no special wine…:)

111. MJ - March 30, 2012

@110. Ha Ha! Sounds good!

112. Tony Todd's Tears - March 30, 2012

Quato Lives!

113. Sebastian S. - March 30, 2012

# 107.
Mojomonkey ~

Agreed! It’s a future cult classic. As for the rumors of Disney wanting it to fail? I can’t imagine Disney passing up ANY chance to make more money, but given the crappy marketing and total lack of Pixar emphasis in the ad campaigns? It sure seems like they were targeting it for termination. It is a MUCH better movie than the reviews and the bad press indicate…..

114. mojomonkey - March 30, 2012

#109 Just Google it. The info’s out there. The dramatic rights to all of Tolkien’s published works aren’t that cut & dried.

#107 I saw JC for the 4th time today. It gets better each viewing. Definitely a “cult classic” — hey, it’s that now! Lol. Just Google up some articles on JC/Disney and the rumor stuff will turn up.

115. Khalifa - March 31, 2012

Would love to see this movie but i wouldn’t say almost as excited to watch it as Trek!!!

116. mojomonkey - March 31, 2012

Now THIS is the kind of trailer we need in the States:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MhQe8V8IXc&feature=relmfu

It does everything a trailer should do.

117. MJ - March 31, 2012

@116. I actually prefer the American ones. This trailer gives away too much of the story, which is the problem with most overly long trailers today.

Look at the Batman: Dark Knight trailer — that is the way you do a trailer.

118. MJ - March 31, 2012

I meant Dark Knight Rises trailer

119. mojomonkey - March 31, 2012

116: I don’t think it gives *anything* away. But it does give us some dialogue/character moments to anchor the story in *something* other than trippy imagery. TKR doesn’t *need* a strong trailer. It has a ginormous audience counting down to the release date. Nolan could’ve put the Bat-sign and title up and called it a trailer and it would not effect opening w/e one bit. Prometheus *needs* a strong promotional campaign.

120. MJ - March 31, 2012

@119. You argument is persuasive. OK, I agree with you now on this.

121. mojomonkey - April 1, 2012

#120. Ha ha, okay :)

I’m really rooting for Prometheus. Honestly, I hope it’s RS’s best movie and it does blockbusters this summer. But history (especially recent history) is kinda against it…

122. MJ - April 1, 2012

@120. Actually, I meant was I said in post 120 — I agree with you now!

I guess people are so used to me being disagreeable that they all think I am joking when I cave in and agree with them on something? :-)

123. Jack - April 1, 2012

I figured I would like JC when most of Roger Ebert’s review wasn’t really about the movie at all, kind of like his Trek 09 review (which used the word fullerenes at least once).

Sometimes I wish trailers would just clearly set up the premise and keep the revealing later shots to a minimum, but I do agree with mojomonkey that trailers for new films like Prometheus, JC and even the first Trek need to anchor the story.

Bringing up Ebert again, I read this this weekend, in a 12-year-old review for “What Lies Beneath (it was on TV again):

“I’ve tried to play fair and not give away plot elements. That’s more than the ads have done. The trailer of this movie thoroughly demolishes the surprises; if you’ve seen the trailer, you know what the movie is about, and all of the suspense of the first hour is superfluous for you, including major character revelations. Don’t directors get annoyed when they create suspense and the marketing sabotages their efforts?

The modern studio approach to trailers is copied from those marketing people who stand in the aisles of supermarkets, offering you a bite of sausage on a toothpick. When you taste it, you know everything there is to be known about the sausage, except what it would be like to eat all of it.

Same with the trailer for “What Lies Beneath.” I like the approach where you can smell the sausage but not taste it. You desire it just as much, but the actual experience is still ahead of you. Trailers that give us a smell and not a taste; that’s what we need.”
- Ebert, July 21, 2000

124. YARN - April 2, 2012

#4 mojomonkey is on the money.

I showed the US trailer to a college student who has never seen ALIEN and she didn’t know what was going on or why she should care. It was a real perception check.

125. Silvereyes - April 2, 2012

#85 MJ

Reason #3 you specify in your post at 40 is not evidence, it’s outright delusion devoid of logic and reasoning. Please add a place for me at your serving crow party table. If Khan is indeed the vilain, I will gladly make a toast in your honor, and it will be a pleasure to do so. However, if he’s not, you are required to apologize for your incessant ranting about how YOU predicted that Khan is the vilain and that you were the only one able to brilliantly deduce this from obsure hints given by Orci.

126. Vultan - April 2, 2012

#124

Alien is not exactly an obscure film.

I’m guessing since she never saw it then she doesn’t have any interest in science fiction (or horror for that matter), so… why would she have any interest in Prometheus either way?

127. dmduncan - April 2, 2012

The US trailer is fine. The spectacular imagery alone pulls me in and makes me want to know more. The only potential complaint I might have against Prometheus thus far is in how it might treat the space jockey.

I think it would be a really unfortunate thing if they demystify the space jockey and the alien ship. I will be gravely disappointed if they do that because I do love Alien so much, and NOT knowing how the alien ship got on that planet or who the space jockey was is crucial to create the sense of creepiness of the first Alien movie.

It would be pathetic if Ridley Scott decided to demystify all that so that when you watch Alien, all the mystery and creepiness of that derelict ship is now gone because it’s been explained in Prometheus.

Raiding your earlier work for treasure to give your new work would be truly pathetic, particularly since it will leave your earlier work impoverished by explanation.

I’m NOT saying he (and Damon) did that, but I will be sorely disappointed in them if they did.

It’s the only thing I’m worried about with Prometheus.

128. Vultan - April 2, 2012

#127

You might want to skip Prometheus then, because I’ve heard Scott say in interviews he always wondered why the Alien sequels didn’t go back and cover the space jockey and derelict’s origin….

I think you’re right, though. The mystery is almost always better than the revelation. Unless the creative team adds even more mystery on top of what we’ve already seen, it could be something of a disappointment for Alien fans.

Anyway, here’s hoping for something… different….

129. MJ - April 2, 2012

@124 “I showed the US trailer to a college student who has never seen ALIEN and she didn’t know what was going on or why she should care. It was a real perception check.”

No doubt she thinks The Hunger Games and Twilight are science fiction. LOL

I really don’t want people like her in the theater with me seeing this movie anyway. Let her go see the Avengers while she sends text messages to her Facebooks pals during the movie.

130. dmduncan - April 2, 2012

128: “I think you’re right, though. The mystery is almost always better than the revelation. Unless the creative team adds even more mystery on top of what we’ve already seen, it could be something of a disappointment for Alien fans.”

Well even if they do add more mystery, they’ve stolen the mystery away from Alien if that is true.

But look, I haven’t seen the movie and I don’t want to speculate. It may not be that way at all.

But I remember my criticism of The Thing based on the trailer before that movie came out, and I think it turned out to be the disappointment I was expecting. A movie with some cool moments but overall inferior to both the John Carpenter AND the Nyby/Hawks versions.

You know, I don’t understand these things. Carpenter had what sounded like a COOL idea for a Thing sequel based on his movie, and what happens is we get a frakkin prequel based on the Norwegian camp that pretty much duplicates the elements of the Carpenter version.

Just stupid.

131. Vultan - April 2, 2012

#130

I didn’t even bother seeing “The Thing” remake—and let’s face it, it’s pretty much a remake/requel/ripoff of Carpenter’s masterpiece. From the reviews I read, it didn’t really bring anything new to the table, so I figured: “What’s the point?” Well, other than $$$$. Better off staying home, pop in my DVD and watching James Arness play the killer carrot from another world.

I’m getting more and more frustrated with the mining operation going on in Hollywood. It’s bad for the environment (our brains, that is). Save us, Ridley Scott!

132. Vultan - April 2, 2012

Correction: “watch James Arness..”

133. Red Dead Ryan - April 2, 2012

I don’t think we really need to know a whole lot about the Space Jockey other than what his purpose is in the movie. Hopefully, his origins are kept secret. Same for the crashed ship. It should be important, though, to what is going on CURRENTLY in the movie as a device. And I hope the writers treat the Space Jockey as a genuine character and not just some caricature or some run-of-the-mill stereotypical giant creature in a space suit. The trailers do look like they have the same level of creepiness, eeriness and claustrophia-feel that helped make the original so great.

As for the new “The Thing”, I haven’t seen it. I hear its a prequel that is at the same time a remake. Meh. I’ve seen the original, and THAT is a classic. If the new version is pretty much the same, (and judging by many of the reviews I have read and heard claiming it to be inferior to the original) I’m not in any hurry to watch it. I will one day, probably, though.

134. dmduncan - April 2, 2012

Yeah, The Thing was weird because it was a prequel that was also a remake — because it covered all the same points as the Carpenter movie it was based on.

I would much rather have had Carpenter’s sequel instead.

What were they thinking doing a prequel that was a remake? Makes no sense.

135. Red Dead Ryan - April 2, 2012

“Prometheus” has to be considered the last gasp for the “Alien” franchise. If it fails, then it might be time to put the franchise to bed for good.

Then again, I’ve read those same comments in regards to J.J Abrams’ “Star Trek” and that movie turned out alright in the end…….

So there is some hope!

136. Red Dead Ryan - April 2, 2012

#134.

Well, Hollywood likes to play it safe. On one hand, its understandable as the studios spend a lot of money, and like to make even more in return. It’s business. On the other hand, that type of thinking leads to stagnation, and that is never good for business, nor the art of moviemaking itself. Eventually new ideas are going to have to be born. Or at least new and unique spins on old ideas.

137. Vultan - April 2, 2012

#136

I think we’re in or very close to stagnation right now.

When one of this year’s big summer movies is “Battleship,” based on a board game with aliens thrown into the mix for whatever reason (Hey, where are the red and white pegs in the trailer?), then I think we’ve reached a low point. Plus, I seem to remember a rumored adaptation of the View-Master toy from Orci and Kurtzman….

Oh mercy….

138. Red Dead Ryan - April 2, 2012

#137.

Yeah, you’re right. I believe that Hollywood has a “Monopoly” movie in the works as well. Not sure if the View Master movie is going ahead, though. It sounded too similar to J.J Abrams’ own “Super 8″ movie.

And the new “Total Recall” takes place on Earth. Not on Mars! Geez, are they really crazy enough to actually believe that Mars is box office poison?

All because “Mission To Mars”, “The Red Planet”–both of which came out twelve friggin’ years ago–and “Mars Needs Moms” bombed at the box office. The studios can’t seem to figure out that maybe the reason why they tanked had more to do with poor scripts and not the planet Mars!

I guess we’ll never see a movie take place on Venus just because the studios will think people will be offended by the name of the planet rhyming with a part of the male anatomy. Sheesh!

139. Vultan - April 2, 2012

#138

Ha ha! Yeah, really. And let’s not even get started on Uranus. Oh, that doesn’t sound right….

But I wouldn’t put it past them to think Mars is box office poison. It’s exactly the way marketing people and studio heads think—or… um, not think.

They can really learn a lesson from the lackluster performance of John Carter of… some red planet that kinda looks like Arizona and Utah. When the fantastic element of a story is in the title (in this case “OF MARS”) you leave it in the friggin’ title!

140. Vultan - April 2, 2012

“Well, we want to get the non-science fiction fan’s attention, so let’s change Star Trek to… Travels Abroad. And we’ll change Star Wars… to Over There.”

—Marketing 101

141. dmduncan - April 2, 2012

The Spiderman reboot trailer is playing. Already a Spiderman reboot. Of course there was a Hulk reboot even faster than that.

It does sort of feel like Hollywood is stuck in a loop, talking to itself.

142. MJ - April 2, 2012

@141. At the theater this past weekend (I still can’t believe I paid to see The Hunger Games…ouch!) when they showed the Spiderman trailer, there were groans in the audience. Someone behind me said, “been there, done that,” and my wife asked me why they were starting over with Spiderman.

Unless this is a truly great movie, I think it is going to be real tough sell beyond the fanboys seeing it on the opening weekend.

143. MJ - April 2, 2012

@130 “I think you’re right, though. The mystery is almost always better than the revelation. Unless the creative team adds even more mystery on top of what we’ve already seen, it could be something of a disappointment for Alien fans.”

Good point. When was the last time we had a really good one at the movies, like a “Luke, I am your father” type of bombshell? I guess Vulcan getting destroyed and parts of Avatar did some of that, but I can’t recall much out in recent sf movies that surprised me all that much. District was pretty good, in that I didn’t know what the frack was going to happen next.

144. Vultan - April 2, 2012

#143

Yeah, District 9 surprised me too. Aside from the shock moments of the transformation and weird, gross-out alien tech, that last scene really tugs at the old heart strings. I mean, c’mon, how many sci-fi films make you go “aww” at the end? It was brilliant.

145. Red Dead Ryan - April 2, 2012

Well, I can understand why Hollywood continues to make reboots. They have generally done well recently, but what I don’t understand is why we can’t have more movies like “Moon”, “District 9″, “Source Code” and “Super 8″?

146. MJ - April 2, 2012

Also the two biggest grossing movies in recent years were NOT sequels — Inception made $1B and Avatar $2B.

147. MJ - April 2, 2012

….nor were those two movies reboots

148. Red Dead Ryan - April 3, 2012

And they are great movies. Both are considered instant classics!

149. Harry Ballz - April 4, 2012

146.

Inception was HIGHLY OVER-RATED!!!!!!!!!!

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