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First Trailer For Alex Kurtzman’s ‘People Like Us’ Starring Chris Pine March 29, 2012

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Another Summer film we are looking forward to is People Like Us (formerly Welcome To People), the directorial debut of Star Trek co-writer/producer Alex Kurtzman which also stars Star Trek’s Chris Pine. The film was written and produced by Kurtzman and his Trek writing partner Roberto Orci. The first trailer has just been released, check it out below.


Trailer for ‘People Like Us’ starring Chris Pine – directed by Alex Kurtzman

The family drama People Like Us is a departure for Orci and Kurtzman, best known for big budget genre films. Here is a synopsis:

The story of a struggling man (Chris Pine) who, after flying home to L.A. for the funeral of his estranged record-producer father, discovers that the will stipulates that he must deliver $150,000 in cash to a 30-year-old alcoholic sister (Elizibeth Banks) he never knew existed, and her troubled 12-year-old son.

People Like Us arrives in theater on June 29, 2012 (ironically the original release date for the Star Trek sequel).


1. shpock - March 29, 2012


i feel all warm and fuzzy

2. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 29, 2012

Looks like a good movie. I just may take my Bride to be to this.

3. The ste - March 29, 2012

Why is Pine not in more movies? He is such a great actor and this trailer shows it. Great cast. Looks good.

4. Inspector Callahan - March 29, 2012

Awww, pretty people with problems.

5. VZX - March 29, 2012

This sounds a little like Rain Man, but without the autism.

6. Matt from Bradford Uk - March 29, 2012

Well I shall have a look at this at my local multiplex.I have seen everything else by Mr Oric and Mr Kurtzman at the cinema (expecpt Cowboys and Aliens), so why stop now.

7. Inspector Callahan - March 29, 2012


“so why stop now.”

Cowboys and Aliens is reason enough.

8. Jack - March 29, 2012

I’ll go see this — and would have without the Kurtzman/Orci connection, probably… Banks usually chooses pretty decent films (although Zach and Miri had far too many poop jokes, and a bit too much Seth Rogen). And, any chance to see Michelle Pfieffer.

9. Danpaine - March 29, 2012

Finally, a thought-provoking film. Excellent.

Actually, I enjoyed the heck out of Cowboys and Aliens – surprised me.

10. Jay - March 29, 2012

#3 More? He has done 3 films since Star Trek, currently filming the Star Trek sequel and been signed to a Jack Ryan trilogy.

Seems like he is pretty darn busy to me.

11. Red Dead Ryan - March 29, 2012

I can already tell from the trailer that Chris Pine is the far better actor than Elizabeth Banks. Pine knows how to act, but Banks has no talent whatsoever. She couldn’t act shit in “W”. That’s why I’m split on this film. I’ll probably check it out, though for me at least, its not exactly money in the “Banks”, so to speak.

12. Sherlock FanGirl - March 29, 2012

Eh, looks like an over abundance of schmaltz to me.

13. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 29, 2012

I actually enjoyed Cowboy’s and Aliens. I hope for a sequal. But have it set during say. World War 2. Could be good.

14. pass the Tranya - March 29, 2012


Wasn’t schmaltz the guy in the transporter room on the Klingon Bird of Prey in ST III?


15. pass the Tranya - March 29, 2012

13 –

Nazis & Aliens???

16. La Reyne d'Epee - March 29, 2012

2. Aaaaaaw, Mike, never thought you’d get round to asking!

*runs out to buy Star Trek mini wedding dress on your credit card*


17. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 29, 2012

#16. Be careful. Or Nurse Brooke of the Terran Empire may just come after you. Don’t believe me. Just as the guys over on live chat. Lol.

18. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 29, 2012

Yes, yes…Finally! Gosh, that Sam guy looks just sooo gorgeous. He MUST be played by Chris Pine. I mean, who else could it be?…:)

I am looking forward to seeing this film, have been for a while, but unfortunately I still don’t know the NZ release date.
Alex? Bob? Help!

Cowboys & Aliens isn’t such a bad movie. I actually think it grows on you, or on me, at least…only thing – all aliens look alike – either two legged humanoids (Star Trek) or four legged ugly creatures (just about everything else). Hmmm. Personally, I prefer the humanoid look.

19. jethro tull - March 29, 2012

13..”Nazis and Aliens” ST: Enterprise did that. it looked cool, but really a dumb idea.

20. La Reyne d'Epee - March 29, 2012

17. *smacks self around head with a baseball bat*

S’okay, I’m back to normal. Harcourt Mudd slipped me the Venus drug back there.

(What did I nearly do?)


21. Phil - March 29, 2012

@15. Didn’t they do that with Enterprise and TOS? Both groaners, as I recall.

22. Phil - March 29, 2012

Well, the “I promise I’ll never hit on you” line is a bit creepy, considering he knows she is his sister and she seems to think he’s hitting on her. Other then that, as long as they didn’t spend 250 million to make this what’s the worst that could happen?

23. Matt from Bradford Uk - March 29, 2012


“Cowboys and Aliens is reason enough”

I didn’t have time to see it with work commitments.

24. Inspector Callahan - March 29, 2012


Believe me, your time at work was well spent. Cowboys and Aliens was a waste.

25. Matt from Bradford Uk - March 29, 2012


well when I get time to watch it I will make my own judgement.

I never listen to what other people sway me not towatch something

26. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 29, 2012

Now for something OT – re Karl Urban

Apparently Karl Urban is putting his Herne Bay, Auckland, home on the market. I have know that he lives in Herne Bay but have kept it quiet but now that it is now in the NZ Herald, I do not see a problem in disclosing where he has been living. I don’t know which street he is in, but I did live in the same suburb some years ago.

Yes, I thought he had seaviews of the gorgeous Waitemata Harbour. Nobody knows why they would want to sell, unless he and his wife have found an even better house nearby… Star Trek gets a mention in the Herald article.

27. VZX - March 29, 2012

Not for nothing, but Elizabeth Banks is a hot old lady! As John Cho would say: MILF!
I say that and she’s the same age as me!

28. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 29, 2012

Sorry about post #26. I have toothache and did not read the article properly. I do know where Jervois Road is and it is a very long windy and steep road.

* I am also mourning the loss of my own cat – he was mine and I was his. We had to put him to sleep because he was just too sick and the prognosis for a good recovery was not good at all. Jezra was 9 years, 3 months and 2 weeks old exactly yesterday (29 March). Our dog Shadow and Jezra were also the best of mates.

Real life schmaltz?…what can I say?

29. Inspector Callahan - March 29, 2012


O-kay. I usually disagree with the critics, too, but they were right on this one.

30. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 29, 2012

Elizabeth Banks is not old! I am older than her and I don’t consider myself to be old…

31. NCM - March 29, 2012

@28: Sorry to hear, Keachick… If not nine lives, I’m sure Jezra had 9 good years.

32. MJ - March 29, 2012

Well Elizabeth Banks isn’t exactly young either.

33. NCM - March 29, 2012

I don’t go for schmaltz–hated War Horse–but this film looks promising, to me. Pretty people…? Okay, but how many films do we see about pretty people falling in love and how many producers care to explore other kinds of relationships between young pretties of the opposite sex (or of the same sex, for that matter–I’d have Hollywood give us more varied stories about the many kinds of relationships between people).

I think Pine’s charisma booms on the screen in the trailer. Always thought he could act, liked him, but if he sustains that kinda screen presence throughout the film, I may become a Pine Nut.

Glad they changed the film title. I imagine “Welcome to People” to be a greeting etched into a corporate door pane of a certain magazine. It also reminded me of the film title, “Ordinary People” and the 80’s (?) show, “Real People.”

34. Basement Blogger - March 29, 2012

Looks great. Check out that cast! Not just Pine and Banks. There’s Oiivia Wilde, Jon Favreau and Michelle Pfeiffer.

35. NCM - March 29, 2012

So Banks is old, eh; MILF, huh? Would the film be more appealing if she were barely legal and the mother of an adolescent? Or if Pine wanted to boink her? Or would it take A and B–toss out the kid–to make the film worth a shot?

Maybe the powers that be are shooting for a more sophisticated audience than TM sometimes entertains.

36. Sugar Rush - March 29, 2012

I’m sorry, I just can’t get into anything like this. Movies are supposed to be fantastical and improbable. I am most entertained when I know that what I’m seeing in almost beyond belief. If I want to see stuff like what the above movie is about, I’ll open my front door.

37. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 29, 2012

#22 Could the reason the character Sam said “I promise I’ll never hit on you” is to ensure that “no wires get crossed”? My impression is that a lot of what seems a common ordinary activity or conversation often gets sexualised in ways that they would not have done in the past. I mean, a guy can’t open a car door for a female without someone commenting that he must be banging her…

I’m not sure how guys know how they are supposed to behave sometimes – if he appears friendly, helpful, interested enough to talk to a woman – then it is automatically assumed that he must be hitting on her (maybe he is, maybe he is isn’t). Or should guys just totally ignore any female – be curt and rude? You tell me…dunno.

38. dmduncan - March 29, 2012

I like it!

39. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 29, 2012

Elizabeth Banks was born on 10 February 1974 which makes her 38 years old. Karl Urban will be 40 this year – 7 June 1972. They are both *young* to me as I am older…:) Chris Pine is 31 – so yummy and young.

40. Nony - March 29, 2012

Good, Chris Pine is redeemed for me after the steaming pile of douchebaggery that was ‘This Means War’…

41. MJ - March 29, 2012

@33. You like chick flicks, but not War Horse? Based on this trailer, this is as sappy and sentimental of a chick flick as I have ever seen. At least be consistent, would you?

42. MJ - March 29, 2012

@35 “So Banks is old, eh; MILF, huh? Would the film be more appealing if she were barely legal and the mother of an adolescent? Or if Pine wanted to boink her? Or would it take A and B–toss out the kid–to make the film worth a shot?”

Shes neither young or old. It is called “late 30’s.” What is the big deal with commenting on her age given we know it?

43. china - March 29, 2012

Far to sickly sweet for me. Pine hasnt really handled his career that well since star Trek. Look how Chris Hemsworth has done since his small role in the last film. The guy isnt that talented but he’s made the most of his opportunities.

44. zillabeast - March 29, 2012

Hmmm I got a really bizzare Luke/Leia romance vibe outta that trailer lol. It was kinda uncomfortable.

45. MJ - March 29, 2012

@43. Agreed. The only half-decent thing he’s done since Trek is the train movie with Denzel. He’s not going to be a B-lister like Shat, but neither is he going to be a mega A-list star. I don’t see him carrying films like the top actors can.

46. MJ - March 29, 2012

@44. Yea, that deal with him discussing not hitting on here gave me a severe groan moment.

47. boborci - March 29, 2012

would it change your mind to discover Pine is actually Kirk in this movie undercover in the past?

48. MJ - March 29, 2012

Hey Bob, is JJ letting you out of your cage now?

49. Jesustrek - March 29, 2012

looks good…Buena Suerte Bob a refinar el arte de la escritura. por cierto que te parecio la version Cinematografica de John Carter de Marte? a mi me fascino, Saludos.

50. PEB - March 29, 2012

my God Chris Pine’s smile is my kryptonite. I’m glad he’s finally being seen for his potential. The guy has star power and I mean more than just action hero, Captain Kirk star power. I dont want to see him in hearthrob “Notebook” type movies but just good damas, etc. This looks like a true start to what could be a long prosperous run. I wish him all the best.

okay now I’ll continue to dool while my boyfriend isnt around.

51. DJT - March 29, 2012


Finally! It’s about time.

52. MJ - March 29, 2012

@50. Yes, we all certainly love a good dama! In fact, A-dama, in Battlestar Galactica was a great character, and certainly was one of the best damas of all time.

53. Dee - lvs moon' surface - March 29, 2012

#47. boborci…

I love it!!!!…… CP looks awesome!!!… I think the movie will be great, Mr. Orci!!!

Ok finally the trailer… and I’m in trouble with my internet operator these days… I’m freaking out here now!…

;-) :-)

54. MJ - March 29, 2012

@49. Súbase al caballo caca!

55. MJ - March 29, 2012

I am seeing Bob’s once in a great while posts these days on trivial matters not related to the new movie as a cry for help. JJ has pulled down the gauntlet here on Bob sharing any even tiny info about the movie, so the poor guy has been reduced to throwing in a trivial post like this once in a while to let us know that he is still around and thinking about us.

56. NCM - March 29, 2012


As one who often defends our right to complain, I’d think you’d practically have my back on this.

Has Urban’s age been subject to similar commentary? Has Greenwood’s age been addressed in any but flattering terms? What about Del Toro, back when…?

You say we know her age, but I didn’t, and wouldn’t have known she’s middle-aged had I skipped comments. Are you as familiar with the ages of the guys, and if so, have you commented…? Not trying to press the issue; just think there may be some small merit in calling out a double-standard.

Consider Urban Dictionary’s definition of MILF:

“Mother I’d Like To F++k
The mother can be any age, as long as they’ve given birth and popped that thing out of their vagina and still remain hot as hell and a devil in bed, why the hell not?”

While “FILF” is more dignified, I haven’t encountered the term on these threads.

If “People” is as smarmy as War Horse, I s’pect I’ll hate it as much.

You might take note of the guys on this thread who plan to see this “chick flick.” What is the world coming to?


57. VZX - March 29, 2012

Wow, I didn’t mean to offend. I was also born in 1974 so I’m the same age as Banks, for whatever its worth.

58. VZX - March 29, 2012

Bob, will ST2 really melt our faces Ark of the Covenant on a Nazi-style?

59. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 29, 2012

#56 – Yes, I agree. What has Elizabeth Banks’ age got to do with anything? This same kind of shite got talked about in connection with Reese Witherspoon’s age on This Means War. Apparently Reese is actually younger than Elizabeth. Who knew? I didn’t, until I found out their birthdays. The truth (for me, at least) is that they both look bright, attractive, *young(ish) women (as opposed to a teen/early 20’s).

* I was told that the new middle age doesn’t start until you are in your mid-fifties, therefore they are still young women of child-bearing age!

I thought that This Means War was better, more enjoyable than Unstoppable. Chris Pine was just fine in both movies. He is not called the fine Pine for nothing…:) This Means War had a lot of subtle satire, which I think has gone over the heads of a lot of people. I like McG!

#47 – Oh Bob – Hi there – Captain Kirk time traveling back and going undercover as Sam – OK, works for me, but why?

MJ – Bob Orci is one of People Like Us’s producers! You should, as everyone else by now, should know that Bob cannot say anything about the Star Trek sequel, but there is nothing to stop him saying as much or as little about one of his other productions, People Like Us!

60. MJ - March 29, 2012

@56. Actually, a number of people did comment that Del Toro was too old to play Khan.

Speaking for myself, I don’t view Elizabeth Banks age as an issue. But some people claiming that she is “young” is incorrect; and others claiming that she is “old” is incorrect. Her late 30’s age puts her in that “in-between” age range. What is the big deal with stating this???

FYI — you and others used the term MILF. You can keep me out of that discussion.

Regarding War Horse, I just thought it was funny that you inferred it was overly sentimental, while at the same time saying you were looking forward to this obviously sentimental Chris Pine chick flick. So I thought that your comparison was funny, not that you liked a chick flick. I have a soft spot for a good chick flick now and then myself! :-)

61. MJ - March 29, 2012

@55 “MJ – Bob Orci is one of People Like Us’s producers! You should, as everyone else by now, should know that Bob cannot say anything about the Star Trek sequel, but there is nothing to stop him saying as much or as little about one of his other productions, People Like Us!”

Isn’t that basically what I said?

62. Inspector Callahan - March 29, 2012


Be sure to check out McG’s over films. He is truly the greatest satirist since Kubrick. Dr. Strangelove has nothing on Charlie’s Angels Full Throttle. A masterpiece.

63. MJ - March 29, 2012

McG is one of the worst directors around today. I can’t believe that the studios keeps giving him films to direct.

64. Inspector Callahan - March 29, 2012

That should be ‘other’ instead of ‘over’ @62.

65. MJ - March 29, 2012

@59 “I was told that the new middle age doesn’t start until you are in your mid-fifties, therefore they are still young women of child-bearing age!”

Whoever told you that was smoking a big doobie! Take the average lifespan of humans in developed nations, divide it by two, and you get late 30’s. That is the MIDDLE AGE of a human life today.

If middle age was 55, that would imply a 110 year average life span.

66. DJT - March 29, 2012


In reviewing the trailer….at around 1:32, it *does* look like CP is wearing Kirk’s shirt from COTEOF.

67. CarlG - March 29, 2012

I hope it goes better than that one with Tom Hardy, I was really rooting for that one to be good… strong disappointment ensued. :(

I wonder if Orci and Kurtzman ever had the urge to throw in a big red monster or a Romulan firefight. Just, like, one scene and it’s never mentioned again, just to freak people out… :D

68. Harry Ballz - March 29, 2012

47. boborci “Pine is actually Kirk in this movie undercover in the past?”

Not surprising, since Kirk did some of his best work “undercover” with green-skinned chicks!

69. boborci - March 29, 2012

49. Saludos!

70. boborci - March 29, 2012

48. Haven’t been in the cage for a while, sadly Would love nothing more than to hang on Trek set all day, but Now You See Me and Ender’s Game need love too.

71. boborci - March 29, 2012

58. Oh yeah. ST12 will melt your face Ark of the Covenant style, as you said. I can’t wait to be here chatting with you all once you see it.

72. boborci - March 29, 2012

59. Cuz he’s already slept with everyone in the 23rd century.

73. Red Dead Ryan - March 29, 2012

Well, I couldn’t care less about Elizabeth Banks’ age. It all comes down to whether she is a good actress or not. She isn’t. As I said earlier, her acting stinks. Looks like Bob and Alex wrote a competent film, and Chris Pine continues to bring his A-game, but I just hope that the film isn’t brought down into the gutter just because of Banks!

Also I agree with MJ on the issue of middle age. Its in the late 30’s early 40’s range based on the average human lifespan. But society has apparently decided that middle age is between 55-70, except that is approaching old age. Just some more PC bullshit.

As for people being sexist in making a big deal of actresses ages on this site, I can tell you right now that a few of us have made fun of William Shatner’s age. Of course, the PC nuts will accuse us of ageism. :-D

74. NCM - March 29, 2012

MJ; I think ref’s to Del Toro’s age were related to logistics rather than his sex appeal-and I referenced the nasty little acronym (used by someone else) as part of my point that the double standard thrives on the thread.

I find most chick flicks overly-sentimental for my taste, but I loved Thelma & Louise and even liked Titanic–DiCaprio and Winslet sold it. I’ve never been able to watch any of the hospital dramas except ER. I think I like melodrama (Terms of Endearment!) fine, so long as the character development and story are placed first and are well acted/directed.

I asked my husband to watch the People trailer, and to characterize it. He said he’d see the film, then admitted it’s a chick flick. Asked why he’d see it, he said, ’cause there are two hot women in it.” Guess men ‘ll be men, but it’s also nice to know MP is still considered hot. I didn’t recognize her at first, but I respect her for aging gracefully and not prosthetically.

75. RachelMarta - March 29, 2012

I think Chris Pine is an amazing actor with so much potential; he is one of those actors who becomes his role; from a teenage killer to a young gay man to a macho dude to Captain Smirk Kirk. This movie looks like we will get to see some of his real acting chops – some heart and some romance and some deeply felt emotions. It looks like a touching story of real people. Can’t wait to see it.

76. NCM - March 29, 2012

RDR; I would hope you’re not suggesting I’m a PC nut because I acknowledge a double standard; that would be like me assuming you’re a conservative white hetero male who’s had the advantage of never having to concern himself with sexism, racism, discrimination or any of those things you assume either don’t exist or only matter to PC nuts.

77. Red Dead Ryan - March 29, 2012


Oh sure, sexism, racism and other forms of discrimination do exist; I’m not denying that. But what I am saying is that you and others on this site have chosen to use that as a basis to attempt to stifle criticism in pursuit of political correctness which in of itself is usually a form of exaggerating percieved acts of discrimination, sexism, racism, etc. to fit an agenda, usually political and social.

People who are racists and sexists need to be called onto the carpet for their bias and discrimination. But people who falsely and blatantly accuse others of intolerance or attempt to take advantage of the real inequalities in the world to justify their own smug sense of superiority, arrogance, or political/social views simply because they disagree with someone also need to be called out.

From what I’ve read on this thread, there has been no sexist remarks posted. That is all on you.

78. NCM - March 29, 2012

What criticism did I attempt to stifle? I simply commented on what I think is an obvious double-standard; a minor irritation, and there’s not much more going on, so why not? You’re not one to keep your opinions to yourself, but I haven’t stereotyped you for your opinions.

So “sexism, racism and other forms of discrimination do exist, “but anyone who perceives such where you do not… has chosen “to stifle criticism in pursuit of political correctness which in of itself is usually a form of exaggerating percieved acts of discrimination, sexism, racism, etc. to fit an agenda, usually political and social.” Wow, all this happened on a Trek thread? Who’s the nut?

79. Red Dead Ryan - March 29, 2012


I’ve read a number of posts on this site that have wrongly accused others of racism/sexism simply because they posted something they didn’t agree with.

Heck, even Anthony Pascale had been accused of being a racist, communist, pervert, etc. numerous times. Simply because some twits were offended by the fact that he posted something contrary to their own beliefs.

Also, there has been no double standard on this thread. And even if there was, you admit to it being a “minor irritation” but yet you made a huge deal out of it.

80. MJ - March 29, 2012

NCM, I think we are on the same page now! Agree with your husband on MP as well — she still has the X factor for me.

81. MJ - March 29, 2012

“Also I agree with MJ on the issue of middle age. Its in the late 30’s early 40’s range based on the average human lifespan. But society has apparently decided that middle age is between 55-70, except that is approaching old age. Just some more PC bullshit”

Well said, RDR. The idea that middle age is in the 50’s, or that 50 is new 40 — well, guess who is defining it this way — people in their 40’s, 50’s and 60’s…LOL (and I’m 48, so I am not being disengenous here, folks)

All the platitudes people come up with to convince themselves that middle age is at 2/3 or 3/4 point of their life is pretty ridiculous. Reminds me of some lines from Unforgiven:

Will Munny: It’s a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he’s got and all he’s ever gonna have.

The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.

Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.

82. La Reyne d'Epee - March 30, 2012

My biggest beef about ageism is that it simply denies us the opportunity to watch fantastic actresses doing their job. The American entertainment industry particularly makes it difficult for them to get significant roles after the age of 30 doesn’t it?

Look how wonderful Jessica Lange was in American Horror Story. It’s great that her contribution was appreciated and recognised with the various awards she received and they’re bringing her back in the second series. Why should we be denied the enjoyment that such a great performer can provide?

83. MJ - March 30, 2012

Ah yes, it is all the American entertainment industry’s fault, of course.

84. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - March 30, 2012

Well, I think it will do alright, and best wishes to all involved. Can’t really say why, but this makes me want to see Crazy/Beautiful again. I haven’t seen that in a long time. *Shrugs*

85. Robert H. - March 30, 2012

Not the type of movie I would watch, but I wouldn’t mind seeing it.

86. sevenzerothreethreezerosixzerozerozeroseven - March 30, 2012

They have sex. They DEFINITELY have sex.

87. NCM - March 30, 2012

MJ, I thought we might be on the same page if I made my point, which is the only reason I bothered to pursue it. I don’t even put relatively harmless little displays of double-standard in the category of sexism.

I would agree, though, @81, that the double-standard isn’t harmless when it comes to actresses careers. I think age discrimination affects us all, if were fortunate enough to live long enough–finding work after 50, 60, 70,… how doctors/attendants treat elderly people, etc… But I think almost anyone in Hollywood would say the effects are disproportionate between the sexes.

Aside: I think most sources claim 40 is the most widely regarded year for onset of ‘the middle ages.’ Women in the U.S. live to age 80, on average: Men, to age 75–they get a few extra years, in terms of reaching middle age, by association, I guess:]

Have a good one.

88. Phil - March 30, 2012

@70. Mother of god, are you suggesting you haven’t been camped out on the ST set 24/7!!! The nerve….

A totally logical and reasonable explaination, while folks here have been spinning theories about your absence that have no bearing in reality at all….

89. Daoud - March 30, 2012

#8. Oh lord.. you’re right about Seth Rogen. Which worries me. I think they’ll cast him as Harcourt Fenton Mudd. He fits.

90. MJ - March 30, 2012

@86. One key point here. Hollywood pretty much gives the public what they want to see. Movies are market-driven, and the actors and actresses cast in them, is part of this. From strictly a dollars and cents POV, if movies with older actresses made more money, then we’d be getting more movies with older actresses.

If you want to say that these market forces are a result of a general societal bias towards younger female actresses, I could potentially buy that. But it is not Hollywood’s fault — it is the fault of the market — the movie-going public. Hollywood generally gives the public what it wants to see — maybe not us here on, but for the masses as a whole…i.e, “the market.”

91. Red Dead Ryan - March 30, 2012



I would argue too, that there a number of highly successful older women in Hollywood. Sally Field, Helen Mirren, Meryl Streep, Jane Fonda, Joan Allen, Annette Benning, etc.

92. VZX - March 30, 2012

71. Cool. I’ll hold you to it.

BTW: “ST12″…I see what you did there.

93. La Reyne d'Epee - March 30, 2012

89. Nope, don’t agree that movies are wholly market-driven. They’re decided by the preponderance of middle-aged men running the industry.

94. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 30, 2012

#72 Oh my goodness. Gotta love the energy of that man Kirk. So there is hope for me yet?…:)

95. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 30, 2012

Actually it was a psychotherapist who told me when the new middle age tends to kick in and it is more to do with changes in people’s psycho-physical wellbeing and capacities than just chronology (number of years a person has lived). In the past most people did not live past 45. Their most (re)productive years took up most of their lives, “middle age” did not last that long, followed by the problems associated with ageing generally with death an inevitability. Now with modern medicines and techniques, good nutrition etc, many a person life is extended far beyond what it would have been even a century ago.

So yes, the new middle age could well be in the fifties rather than the forties. Anyway, I suspect a lot of this has to do with human reproductive capabilities and it is known that, for most women, once they reach their mid-thirties, their fertility can drop quite significantly, whereas males can still “sow their wild oats” well into their sixties/seventies… although the sperm is not as healthy as it was when they were in their twenties. Then again, reproduction for men is rather easy affair compared with what happens within women once he’s done.

Generally, a youthful appearance in both men and women has to do with them having the right balance of male/female hormones – more estrogen for women and more testosterone for men. Both hormone levels drop in both males and females as overall fertility drops when tends to happen as people get chronologically older, but this can vary a lot.

Was my maternal grandmother middle-aged or younger when she conceived and bore her FIRST healthy baby at the age of 42? She had two more healthy babies, one of them my mother and one stillborn after that. No artificial birth control or reproductive aids when she was alive…

I wonder just who is being PC…

96. Jai - March 30, 2012

Keachick, I’m sorry to hear about the loss of your cat. This must be a difficult time for you. Hold onto the memories, and treasure them as much as you can.

97. T'Cal - March 30, 2012

Pine is an excellent actor. Perhaps the best example of that in Star Trek for me was the scene with Spock Prime when he’s respectfully explaining the situation to the elder man, leading up to and including when they melded. You can see the overwhelming unspoken emotion in Kirk’s eyes as Spock explains the emotional transference afterward. I find that scene the most challenging one for Pine as an actor and he handled it perfectly. Props to Quinto as well especially for the scene in which Amanda is killed as are billions of Vulcans. The look on his face on the transporter pad conveyed every emotion he was raised not to express.

Like the rest of you here, I can’t wait for the sequel.

98. MJ - March 30, 2012

@94 “So yes, the new middle age could well be in the fifties rather than the forties.”

No, that would be “2/3 age”.

99. MJ - March 30, 2012

@92. Sorry, but you are naive. Hollywood is all for-profit companies who have to answer to stockholders. It is market-driven. Sure, it’s not 100% market-driven, but it well above 90%.

100. Harry Ballz - March 30, 2012

Hollywood is run by beancounters.

Beancounters are usually accountants.

Accountants, for the most part, are totally bereft of vision or imagination.

Therefore accountants usually make very bad artistic decisions.

Thus most movies made are CRAP.

101. MJ - March 30, 2012

And most people, unfortunately, love crap. John Carter bombs and The Hunger Games teenage thrill movie is the hit of the year (with a young woman star — there we go again on that thread). Exactly!

The masses are getting exactly what they want.

102. china - March 30, 2012

Cumberbatch’s voice has been picked for the first advert for Google +

103. NCM - March 30, 2012

89. MJ – March 30, 2012

@86. “Hollywood pretty much gives the public what they want to see.”

I agree, but I’d add, “…and more.” It also sets trends and influences attitudes–hence the local high school’s over-run with Jersey (Shore) girls; none of whom are from the East Coast.

Hollywood gives us more than we’d dream up–sometimes much to its credit, but, obviously, it’s an industry and its biggest return on investment seems bound to the coarser aspects of human nature; thus, no shortage of cheap thrills, reality T.V., and its viewers.

I don’t presume a perch above it all, don’t blame Hollywood, men, women, whatever. It is what it is and for every step backward, left or right, I think human kind makes a messy march forward.

104. boborci - March 30, 2012

is someone here trying to say that People Like Us is a bean counter movie? Or am I miss reading things?

105. MJ - March 30, 2012

@103. No, Bob. We are off track and talking about movies in general versus what the masses like/deserve in movies. People Like Us I don’t think is included in this current conversation — that is a thoughtful movie that looks like an exception to the crap that most movies are today.

106. VZX - March 30, 2012

100. MJ: That’s a good point, but would you also think that most critics are influenced by what the “masses” want? Rotten tomatoes listed John Carter at 51% and Hunger Games at 85%.

107. VZX - March 30, 2012

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t every studio-produced movie a bean-counter movie? I mean, it’s all a business, and it’s really about profit. No movie would ever get green-lit if the studio execs didn’t think it could make bank.

I would think that only independent movies created by film-makers on their own dime that don’t care about the profits would be exempt from the “bean-counter” category.

108. Jack - March 30, 2012

Speaking of sexism, ageism, opportunism — anybody want to jump on board my return-to-better-times campaign to get the original, undiluted Where No Man Has Gone Before intro back to the next Trek — if they use the intro at all.

Give the kids something to talk about.

109. NCM - March 30, 2012

@103: I think you’re misreading things:]

Thanks for making a non-traditional love story. I hope to love it.

110. John in Canada, eh? - March 30, 2012

I’m surprised no one has yet mentioned (that I’ve seen) that “This Means War” is a matchup between Kirk and Picard!! Or at least, nu-Kirk and Picard Clone. I’m glad Tom Hardy’s career survived playing Shinzon in Nemesis.

111. dmduncan - March 30, 2012

@106: Look at the career of Francis Ford Coppola. The Godfather was a bean counter movie. Er…it was supposed to be, anyway. Coppola didn’t exactly give them what they were looking for. Coppola was a sometime studio sometime indie director who managed to find a way to make his studio projects personal. The result was a studio movie that ranks as one of the best movies ever made.

So yes, it is possible and it does happen that even studios turn out high art that makes money. Mostly because very talented individuals like Coppola figure out a way to circumvent the crap-making process.

112. VZX - March 30, 2012

110. True that, yo.

Most of the best movies are studio produced. And there are many talented filmmakers that can do high-quality stuff in spite of studio meddling: Spielberg, everyone at Pixar, Peter Jackson, that Abrams guy, Coppola, Nolan, Scorsese, etc. But then, there are the Ratners and McGs that will forever be the go-to guys for “bean-counters.”

113. Harry Ballz - March 30, 2012

103. boborci “bean counter movie?”

No, Bob, we’re not saying it about your movie. Just Hollywood in general.

114. Red Dead Ryan - March 30, 2012

I was going to refer to both “Insurrection” and “The Final Frontier” as “bean counter” movies, but that would have been an insult to bean counters everywhere.

115. Harry Ballz - March 30, 2012



116. Jack - March 31, 2012

I wouldn’t call The Hunger Games a teenaged thrill movie.

117. what?! - March 31, 2012

“People Like Us arrives in theater on June 29, 2012 (ironically the original release date for the Star Trek sequel).”

That’s not ironic; it’s coincidental.

118. MJ - March 31, 2012

@115. Teenagers battle in a blood-sport to the deal on reality tv, with a teenage love triangle thrown in. LOL What in hell else would you call it?

It is at least watchable, unlike the horrid Twilight series – I’ll give it that much.

119. MJ - March 31, 2012

ugh, I meant “to the death”

120. Azrael - March 31, 2012

I would call the Hunger Games a “well crafted vision of a repressive dystopian future where the rich and powerful use the poor for entertainment”.

121. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 31, 2012

Labels, labels, labels….

Everyone has to be a “bean counter” to a certain extent. The bottom line is that the majority of movies of all genres have to make their money back and some, otherwise everything goes belly-up. So, of course, the Dreamworks “bean counters” among others, saw the potential of the Alex Kurtzman story to be made into a good movie which could see a return on financial investment. I hope that People Like Us constitutes a win-win scenario – good, well made movie with good story and acting and a box office money earner. You can’t get better than that.

McG is no different from any other producer/director. What’s more, he makes no pretense that he is doing work that will hopefully appeal to a great many people, in that it is good, basic, light-hearted entertainment (with a little parody or satire thrown in sometimes). Frankly, good for McG!

I’ve actually seen This Means War three times and each time I enjoyed the film. I found subsequent viewings more enjoyable in a lot of ways.

I would love to see Chris Pine and Tom Hardy do other films together – such good chemistry and both good to look at. Apart from acting out a great script (hopefully), they both have such aesthetic appeal. Chris, of course, is just that little bit better than any other male right now…:)

Tom Hardy for the next Star Trek film!

122. MJ - March 31, 2012

@120 “I would call the Hunger Games a “well crafted vision of a repressive dystopian future where the rich and powerful use the poor for entertainment”.”

That was called the Middle Ages…been there, done that.

123. MJ - March 31, 2012

@121 “McG is no different from any other producer/director.”

Yes, he SUCKS as this craft. That is the difference.

124. MJ - March 31, 2012

Not to mention that The Hunger games basically stole the concept from Stephen King’s “The Running Man.”

125. Red Dead Ryan - March 31, 2012


“Not to mention that The Hunger games basically stole the concept from Stephen King’s “The Running Man”.

So what? “Star Trek” is basically a rip-off of “The Twilight Zone”, and “Forbidden Planet”. Most works today borrow heavily from yesterday’s writers. Nothing new.

126. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 31, 2012

That’s your opinion, MJ. If I enjoy a movie, then those responsible for putting together the movie do NOT suck at their craft, because whatever it was they did, worked for me.

One movie I can’t stand is the renowned Apocalypse Now with Marlon Brando. I found that movie just plain awful and it was not because it was a war movie. Saving Private Ryan was also a war movie but that was a good movie. However, I could/cannot believe how people so loved Apocalypse Now. Whoever put that thing together SUCKED at their craft. IMO!

127. Vultan - March 31, 2012

And “The Running Man” was basically stolen from “The Most Dangerous Game,” so on and so on. The story has been done many times.

What makes the Hunger Games interesting is its commentary on reality TV, current societal trends, etc., and the sort of insidious way it works those ideas—yes, actual ideas—into popular teenage fiction.

Hmm… something like a little sci-fi show on NBC did in the ’60s….

128. VZX - March 31, 2012

126. For whatever it’s worth, I also did not like Apocalypse Now. But I found the “Making of” documentary of it much more compelling.

On the Hunger Games: yeah, it’s a rip-off of many sci-fi tales with the ol’ cliche teenage love-traingle thrown in. But, it’s making money! Isn’t that what its all about?

129. MJ - March 31, 2012

Sorry folks, but Apocalypse Now is one of the greatest movies of all time.

130. MJ - March 31, 2012

@126 “That’s your opinion, MJ. If I enjoy a movie, then those responsible for putting together the movie do NOT suck at their craft, because whatever it was they did, worked for me.”

Sure, I have no problem with that at all.

131. Vultan - March 31, 2012

I like “Apocalypse Now,” but I can understand how it wouldn’t work for someone. It’s not the easiest, most pleasant movie experience, and it can take more than one or two viewings to appreciate it. At least it did for me.

132. dmduncan - March 31, 2012

Oh no! lol! Well you can say Francis Coppola sucks at his craft, but you can’t say it and be taken seriously. Not by me, anyway. That’s like saying calculus doesn’t make any sense because YOU don’t understand it.

Yes, Apocalypse Now IS one of the best movies ever made.

And hey…I hear McG is doing the remake of it with Chris Pine in the role of Captain Willard.

133. dmduncan - March 31, 2012

131. Vultan – March 31, 2012

I like “Apocalypse Now,” but I can understand how it wouldn’t work for someone. It’s not the easiest, most pleasant movie experience, and it can take more than one or two viewings to appreciate it. At least it did for me.


It’s not a heart-warming movie. If romantic, fun, action-adventure films are all you like, Apocalypse Now is not for you.

134. Vultan - March 31, 2012


Ever see the cameo Captain Willard had in “Hot Shots Part Deux”? Father and son Martin and Charlie Sheen point at each other as their boats pass and yell: “I loved you in Wall Street!”

Very heart-warming. ;)

135. VZX - April 1, 2012

132. Hmm. I actually teach calculus, so I see your point. I understand that Apocalypse Now is one of the best movies ever made, but I don’t have to like it. To each his own…

136. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 1, 2012

I watched “Apocalypse Now” on DVD … and let me say I was amazed, mesmerized by the movie … when it ended I thought it hit deep right on me… so I agree that it’s a fantastic film…

But I can also watch a movie just for entertainment … and had a great watching “This Means War”… I accept the fact that McG was not thinking about make a classic film… was just fun and it worked for me… and Chris Pine and Tom Hardy will make it worth when I buy the blu-ray, release in May… ;-) :-)

137. Jack - April 1, 2012

I’m not saying Hunger Games is high art (and the books — relatively clever, engaging dystopian young-adult novels — were better) and the message ain’t exactly subtle. But, it’s not quite Final Destination 3.

And, yeah, nothing’s entirely original. Shakespeare borrowed. The Bible borrowed. It’s all in the telling.

My shameful confession — I’ve never sat through all of Apocalypse Now at once (I’ve seen the whole thing, I think, but in chunks, over the years)

138. Jack - April 1, 2012

PS. Hope the shoot’s going swell, Bob. So, who’s the lucky winner of the Win A Walk On For Writing a Post That Doesn’t Mention Star Wars contest? I’ve put in like 514 entries.

I look really good in red.

139. Harry Ballz - April 1, 2012

Never mind that, whatever happened to the contest for naming the deflector dish?

140. NCM - April 1, 2012

Wasn’t Apocalypse a rip off of “Heart of Darkness”? I’ve never seen the movie, either, but I just watched the trailer and it looks good, even given its age. Now the book, that is a masterpiece!

141. MJ - April 1, 2012

@140. A rip off? Apocalypse Now was inspired by Heart of Darkness as Coppola will tell you. The Stories are completely different.

FYI — where the Hunger games really lost it for me was when they pulled that Holodeck nonsense at the end and created those supe-pit bulls. I started laughing at that point…it just did not fit. Also, that made me think further how ridiculous it was to have that super advanced city in Estes Park, Colorado, while back in West Virginia, the coal miners were still using 1970’s shovels and picks. Hell, they’d be operating robot mine machines by then, as that would produce a lot more coal…very silly!

Seeing The Hunger Games makes we want to pick up the Blu-Ray for The Running Man to see that again — Richard Dawson was so much better in the MC role than that guy they had in The Hunger Games.

142. Jack - April 1, 2012

140. ‘Even given its age?” ;)

143. Jack - April 1, 2012

141. Yeah, the CGI pit bulls were lame, as was cutting away to the behind-the-scenes. In the book it was suggested that they’d somehow transformed /reanimated the dead tributes into these mutant frankenwolves…

And yeah, the coal miner’s daughter stuff was taken a bit too literally. They could have been ridiculously poor, deprived, overworked and oppressed without living in a Dollywood-style depression-era mining town. But, heck, look at conditions here compared to conditions in the places where a lot of our products are made.

144. NCM - April 1, 2012

@141: I know the connection was intentional and no secret–used “rip off” lightly, but, when is something inspired as opposed to a steal? (Not that it really matters to me.)

@142: Thanks for listening:)

145. MJ - April 1, 2012

@144. You specifically said that you had not even seen Apocalypse Now. So, no offense meant, but I really don’t see how you can make a credible comparison here? How can I take this seriously when you haven’t even seen it???

146. dmduncan - April 1, 2012

Here’s Martin Sheen talking about his role in the film, and talking about the truth of his life at the time which comes across in the character he played.

147. MJ - April 1, 2012

@143 “In the book it was suggested that they’d somehow transformed /reanimated the dead tributes into these mutant frankenwolves.”

Thanks Jack, you just saved me from an idea I had to read the book. No thanks…now! This sounds too close to the Twilight nonsense now instead of scifi for my tastes. I like fantasy, but I like it kept distinct from my scifi. Mixing the two really irritates me.

148. MJ - April 1, 2012

@146. DM, that was interesting and disturbing — thanks! You can almost see from this where the apple didn’t fall fare from the tree with crazy Charlie Sheen…Dad just had a bit more control and was around better people it seems.

149. Jack - April 1, 2012

They were some sort of genetically engineered creatures, not pining, magical werewolves, apparently, but , yeah, creepily, our heroine could recognize the eyes of the dead (like little Rue) in the dog/beasts — I think she speculated that either they used the dead folks parts, or they made them look that way — as they go to crazy lengths to f**k with people.

150. Jack - April 1, 2012


151. Azrael - April 1, 2012

@147. I read that sentence and thought of Universal Soldier, which I enjoy despite a general dislike of Van Damme. Just sayin’

152. MJ - April 1, 2012

@151. Well in Universal Solider, I didn’t recall that the technology allowed the reanimation of dead humans into super-size pit bulls…that is fantasy, not to mention violating the laws of conservation of mass. LOL

153. MJ - April 1, 2012

@149. Too bad she had to pull in weird technobabble like that at the end of the story…it did not need that…the overall concept was a disturbing cautionary tale with some decent satire, and to pull in for the finale the use of some “Twilight-like-scary-crap” just ruined the ending for me by making the who thing laughable. The ending was extremely disappointing, and I also did not buy into that love story between those two on bit…it seemed forced to me.

154. Jack - April 2, 2012

Incidentally, just saw Wrath of the Titans. i know. I can honestly say that it could not have been worse — had the special effects been Bran Ferren Trek V quality or worse, at least that would have added some cheesiness that might have made the whole thing a bit more forgivable/entertaining. Actually, it would have been worse without Liam Neeson and Ralph Fiennes slumming it, and gnawing on every pixel in site — that bit of ridiculousness was definitely needed. But otherwise, it was like wearing sunglasses in a dim room watching someone else play an incomprehensible video game.

153. The book has fun with some of the details. The arena, I can’t remember what she calls it in the book, is different every year and it’s all crazy Shore Leave-style (but lethal) convincing, engineered artifice (think acid rain that’s really acid, killer plants, that sort of thing). I think the heroine recalls watching one year where the cute cuddly squirrels turned out to be killer carnivores. It’s all about putting on a hell of a show / killing creatively / and, I suppose, is meant to show how, well, Roman and corrupt the capital is.

Most of it worked okay in the book because you’re not seeing the behind-the-scenes stuff (“cue the monsoon!”) — once she’s in the arena, there’s no cutting to the outside, and she’s just speculating/giving exposition of what’s happening.

155. Azrael - April 2, 2012

@154. Now I am reminded of the movie The Truman Show with Jim Carey, which… isn’t really a great thing cause that was not a great film IMO. Too bad Wrath sucked, hope you can see something better soon.

156. MJ - April 2, 2012

@154. Well, if in the book they both have the power to do holodeck-level mass-energy manipulation, as well as instant genetic engineering, then why would their be hunger shortages…if you were a good mean dictator in that sort of future, with that level of technology, then just given all the poor easy food mass converters and drugs to pacify them. There would be no need for 1970’s style coal miners carrying fracking shovels…they are obviously way beyond the need for coal in that future.

Here are some selections from a recent review that I thought pretty much nailed this film:

“It would have been splendid to have a strong character profile, but Hunger Games misses the mark in this arena (that’s one archery cliché for Colin). I often found myself wanting to scream at the characters in this movie: “When is someone going to protest this situation for being profoundly messed up?” I mean, we’ve got children murdering each other to the delight of babbling idiots painted to look like Willy Wonka threw up on them, and there are only brief moments in which the characters stop to contemplate what they’re forced to do, which is kill people for the sake of entertaining throngs of hedonists. What this boiled down to on screen was a textbook case of good guys versus bad guys. It’s easy to spot the bad guys—they all sneer and seem content to spend their days bathing in baby blood—and the good guys never waver from their righteous path. I’m not saying this kills the experience, but it casts a sheen over everything that makes it feel phony. Since it lacked any depth story wise, I found myself wincing at some rather glaring technical issues and design choices. Let’s just say that special effects in this movie never feel organic, and the costume choices beat sci-fi tropes to death. Visually, this movie can be jarring and hard to watch at points. Overall, I feel like there’s some good movie-watching to be had with this content, but the final package comes off as clichéd and shallow…. I think relying on the complexities of the book to make up for shortfalls in the movie is total bullshit. If the core story is good, then I want to see that translate on screen. I don’t expect a movie to delve into every nook and cranny of the story, but I want to feel the same things that I would if I’d read the book. The fact that I didn’t get this is a fault of the filmmakers, not the audience. There are plenty of examples in which a film successfully distills hundreds of pages and thousands of words into a few hours on screen. As an interpretation of source material, it sounds like Hunger Games did an OK job. But as a movie, it’s a bit bland.”

157. NCM - April 2, 2012

145. MJ – April 1, 2012

@144. You specifically said that you had not even seen Apocalypse Now. So, no offense meant, but I really don’t see how you can make a credible comparison here? How can I take this seriously when you haven’t even seen it???

Ever a skeptic and a quick trigger man, MJ, but there in lies a bit of your abrasive charm:). No offense taken, or intended (I know you can take it).

It was a big film with a big cast, a big name director, a bit of press, and I wasn’t in a coma. Its connection to Heart of Darkness was popular knowledge, and also a subject of discussion in Eng Lit courses covering Heart of Darkness.

158. MJ - April 2, 2012

So NCM, in other words, you still have not seen it.

You’d make one hell of a politician, my friend!


159. Dennis Bailey - April 2, 2012

Looks good. Banks was brilliant as Laura Bush in “W.”

160. RachelMarta - April 2, 2012

New conversation: I want to see Chris Pine and Karl Urban co-starring in an exciting, thrill seeking serious movie with some witty dialogue and lots of guns. They have great chemistry together and I would like to see them as modern day sleuths like Holmes & Watson. Karl Urban is so hot and snarly and Chris Pine is so hot and such a very bad boy. They are amazing to watch together. Come on writers and directors, be creative, don’t let our boys go to waste.

161. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - April 2, 2012

A trailer for another film that Chris Pine is doing the voice for has just been released – The Rise of the Guardians, a Dreamworks animated film. He voices the character of Jack Frost, his first big animated movie. The trailer looks pretty good, except that I can’t hear or see anything of Jack Frost in the short clip. It is due on 21 November 2012 in the US and 6 December in NZ.

162. MJ - April 2, 2012

@161 “The film revolves around a group of guardians – Santa Claus (Alec Baldwin), Easter Bunny (Hugh Jackman), Jack Frost (Chris Pine), and Tooth Fairy (Isla Fisher) – joining forces when the Boogeyman (Jude Law) throws down the gauntlet of bringing the world into “total darkness” by inspiring nothing but fear into the hopes, beliefs, and imagination of children all over the world.”

Yea, I want to see this really bad, right???


163. MJ - April 2, 2012

Just saw that Hugh Jackman is doing another Wolverine movie? I mean, come on, the guy is a bit long in the tooth for that role now, and the last Wolverine movie sucked.

164. Harry Ballz - April 2, 2012

This October Hugh Jackman will turn 44. Not old at all. He’s in great shape.

165. MJ - April 2, 2012

@164. Well, my implication here is that all of the current reboots are going young. He is bucking the trend and I doubt he will still connect with the teens and twenty-somethings that Hollywood is now so possessed on. In that context, 44 is old, and yea, the guy has been playing Wolverine now for what seems like about 15 years now, right?

166. NCM - April 2, 2012

158. MJ – April 2, 2012

So NCM, in other words, you still have not seen it.

You’d make one hell of a politician, my friend!

“Politician?” If you say so; I just debated politics into the wee hours with a Libertarian friend, and I do like babies.

No, I haven’t seen the movie, but I’m interested…given thread recommendations. Now, do tell me you’ve read Heart of Darkness!

167. Vultan - April 3, 2012


I don’t know about that. Robert Downey Jr. is 46 and seems to connect well with the younger “demographic.”

He can fly, you know.

168. Vultan - April 3, 2012

Oh, and don’t forget about 48-year-old Johnny Depp. Though I think he’s been overexposed in recent years, he still manages to draw audiences—most of the time. The Rum Diary didn’t do well.

169. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - April 3, 2012

#162 – I posted this information because this is a thread dealing with a film starring Chris Pine that is due for release soon in the US (People Like Us). Since it is rather slow, if not comatose, in terms of getting any information about the current Star Trek sequel being filmed, I thought it might be nice for those interested to see what else Chris Pine has done filmwise and will be released near the end of this year and this thread was the logical place to put such information.

Given the nature and content of Rise of the Guardians, it is a film that I may seriously consider taking my daughter to see (the 2D version). I mean – she believes in the Easter Bunny and Santa…

170. MJ - April 3, 2012

@166. Yep, read the Conrad classic a couple of decades back. Great short novel!

171. MJ - April 3, 2012

@167 And I would bet you that Iron Man 3 will be the last one they use him in. Yea, he is getting up there too now.

172. MJ - April 3, 2012

@168. He is an overated actor who plays the same role over and over — different incarnations of Jack Sparrow. Take away Pirates of the Caribbean and he would not be an A-list actor.

173. MJ - April 3, 2012

@169. I would advice pre-screening this mish-mash of a movie ahead of time before talking your young daughter to see it. It sounds like one of those Hollywood committee movies where their just decide to throw different characters together and call it a movie. And why does Santa Claus sound like a drunk Ukrainian?

174. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - April 3, 2012

The Rise of the Guardians is a movie based on the William Joyce book, The Guardians of Childhood. The author is also one of the screenwriters for the Dreamworks movie.

The movie, which is still in its post-production stage, has not received an MPAA rating yet, but it is likely that it will get at most a PG-13 rating (which means possibly an M-rating here in NZ, but more likely the same PG13 rating). That just means that my (by then)10 year old daughter will just need an adult – parent or guardian – to be with her when she sees the movie. No big deal. She has never gone to see a movie alone anyway.

175. Vultan - April 3, 2012


And yet people still pay to see a middle-aged man act silly over and over. The Three Stooges would be proud.

176. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - April 3, 2012

Santa Claus sound like a drunk Ukrainian? Huh?

Ooops… I suddenly remember – oh dear…

A little while back, we thought that it might be kinda nice if Santa Claus started his journey going around the world delivering presents, filling Xmas stockings etc by leaving beside the child’s bed a small glass of beer and a couple of gingernuts (a small ginger flavoured cookie/biscuit). Apparently Santa is quite partial to gingernuts. However, we now leave him a small glass of chilled milk and gingernut, because Michelle insists that Santa needs to watch his weight and if everyone gave him beer, he could get drunk quite quickly and not do his incredibly important once a year job properly. Since NZ is the first country to see the light of a new day, Santa Claus obviously must start his journey in these parts.

Perhaps that where the notion/rumours of a drunk (sounding) Santa Claus began. However, all has been sorted for the greater good! Hope this explains it.

177. Azrael - April 3, 2012

Hmm, while I have no intention to see this movie about the “Guardians of Childhood” I feel it should be pointed out that no matter how bad the characters may sound to some, it can not possibly be as bad as how the Elves looked in the Rankin/Bass animated adaption of the Lord of The Rings. Nothing could look that bad IMO.

178. NCM - April 3, 2012

My daughter played the ‘family movie card’ and got us all to Hunger Games. The shaky camera work made me feel ill within minutes and I had to leave. My son wouldn’t admit to the same effect, but he left with me, belched all the way home, and requested chicken noodle soup for dinner.

The one Bourne movie I tried to watch had the same effect, and my friend left minutes after I did. My daughter’s gotten ill from this filming style, too, and no one in our family is biologically related; so, no shared, unusual hereditary explanation. I hate that filming style. I suspect it makes lots of people sick. I hope it falls out of vogue, soon. If they use it for a Trek flick, I won’t even be able to watch the film.

179. Red Dead Ryan - April 3, 2012


Shaky-cam won’t disappear any time soon, I’m afraid. If the Trek sequel is filmed in the same manner, then you and your family might be better off staying at home and waiting for the movie to hit blu ray or dvd. It’s too bad, but you should be able to avoid the sickness you experienced in the theatre by watching it on a much smaller screen where the action isn’t going to be in your face.

Me personally, I have had no problems with the shaky-cam style. I do wish that directors tone it down a little, though. is represented by Gorilla Nation. Please contact Gorilla Nation for ad rates, packages and general advertising information.