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More Images Of Quinto As Spock From Star Trek Sequel Set April 19, 2012

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More images from the Star Trek set have emerged. The latest batch are more from the same scene with Spock wearing that cool new suit. You can check them out below but they are a bit spoilery.  


More of Spock vs. The Volcano

Here are additional shots from On Location News showing Zachary Quinto as Mr. Spock being dangling above what is reported to be a Volcano (done later in CGI presumably), wearing his "Volcano Suit,"  

This image shows Spock not dangling, so apparently at some point he lands somewhere around the Volcano.

And you can even catch a glimpse of Quinto looking less Spock-like, laughing with his stunt double and some crew people.

For more visit and Digital Spy.


1. Paul - April 19, 2012

There copying first contact aren’t they I want to see more TNG and no reboots Star Trek is about going forward not back Gene legacy isn’t being used as the base for Star Trek

I want to see USS Titan

2. The Red Shirt Diaries - April 19, 2012

I bet Ceti Alpha 5 has volcanos. Hmmm…

3. Scotty - April 19, 2012

looks reallly goofy

4. CmdrR - April 19, 2012

And we only have 13 months to wait to see what this is really all about…


5. punkspocker - April 19, 2012

Cool, but i do feel these leaks are in a way a violation of trust. I guess i’m too loyal. I’ll look as long as they are posted. Awesome website!

6. DaboDax - April 19, 2012

All i know is that i am really excited. I wonder who leeked the photos? I personally think that they should discover the bajoran wormhole and have the dominion in the next movie.

7. Commodore mike of the terran Empire - April 19, 2012

Ok. looks like he is Flying into Veger and will try a mind meld.

8. Commodore mike of the terran Empire - April 19, 2012

Soon we will have out first trailor and then a few more and then the Movie and then we will all be VERY HAPPY!!!!

9. DaboDax - April 19, 2012

When did they make the first trailer for the first movie?

10. Tomi_SI - April 19, 2012

i think jj is Angry! And by the way wher is boborci? i didn’t see him comment in a while.
Hey bob any comment on the pictures os Spock? Loks interesting dosn’t it?!

11. Horatio - April 19, 2012

Star Trek 2013: When Spock meets Anakin ?

12. I'm Dead Jim! - April 19, 2012

Yeah `cause, ya know Star Trek NEVER looks goofy.

Keep it in context people. No fx added yet!

13. nerd - April 19, 2012

January 2008.

14. Jim Hutto - April 19, 2012

VGER is what came to mind when I saw the first picture. I hope this is a different story line then from the 2nd Original Trek Movie. While I think we should see Khan and the rest of the Genetically Engineered from the Eugenic wars. I would hope we wait a bit until it happens.

15. Steve-o - April 19, 2012

I think it looks pretty cool as an outfit. doesnt tell us much about the movie, but i expect to not know much for hopefully only a few more months

16. harley3k - April 19, 2012

I am very interested to see the new take on space walking ;)
Hopefully they keep the physics realistic.

17. Kor the Klingon - April 19, 2012

Security to the bridge! How can these photos be leaking out?

18. ster julie - April 19, 2012

Are those film reel cases that Spock might be tossing into the volcano? Could it be copies of “Spock’s Brain”? ST5? Insurrection??

19. NCC-73515 - April 19, 2012

I think it looks Romulan. No Starfleet sign….

20. Adolescent Nightmare - April 19, 2012

Movie spacesuits always have a pointless helmet light so you can see the face.

21. Soonerdew - April 19, 2012

Could be something to prevent Ceti Alpha VI from exploding. Or perhaps something that precludes the blow up of Vulcan……nahhh

22. rm10019 - April 19, 2012

Looks like Mass Effect ;)

23. Commodore mike of the terran Empire - April 19, 2012

Hey Bob Orci. It’s now ok to come back to Trek Movie.

24. SirBroiler - April 19, 2012

I’m pretty sure I see Khan in the reflection on his right leg

25. Caesar - April 19, 2012

I’m guessing they’re going to add the helmet screen in post? With all sorts of 3D HUD elements?

26. crazydaystrom - April 19, 2012

Spock has quite a large package there. And that case is pretty big too.

27. CJS - April 19, 2012

The universe is full of Volcanoes. And this would not be Star Trek’s 1st. Kirk kicked Kruge into a river of lava on Genesis. (Maybe Alice Eve is Carol Marcus and has begin her Genesis experiments earlier in this timeline). And the planet Excalibia had a molten surface long before Mustafar (maybe they are remaking The Savage Curtain).

28. Phil - April 19, 2012

Spoilery? Still looks like the dog carrier to me – Star Trek: Portho’s Voyage Home….

29. MONGO - April 19, 2012

Mongo thinks JJ mans decide to make Micronauts movie after all. Mongo wonder who play blue micronaut that has spring loaded wings? Pine mans has wrong eye color.

30. Phil - April 19, 2012

Come on – one publication calls this thing a “volcano” suit, and (almost) everyone is just taking this as gospel truth. Who’s to say this isn’t just an environmental suit and Spock is in a zero-G environment somewhere? That makes more sense then the silly idea that Starfleet equips it’s ships with “volcano” suits because you never know when you might have to jump into a volcano somewhere….

31. grag - April 19, 2012

If it were zero-G, the container would be floating, not hanging. So maybe it IS a volcano suit. And if so, what’s the big deal? Like CJS said, there are plenty of them out there. What matters is how it fits into the overal story.

32. THX-1138 - April 19, 2012

Yeah I don’t think it’s a zero G suit because Quinto is holding on to the cable that’s lowering him to the soundstage floor. So he’s probably not outside the pull of gravity of some world.

Or maybe he’s just a really bad green screen actor.

33. tom vinelli - April 19, 2012

Really you guys need to get a life !!

34. Christopher Roberts - April 19, 2012

18. It does, doesn’t it? Like Spock has swiped a Centurion’s armour.

They clearly copied and improved on 22nd Century Starfleet EV suits. Just like they nicked human nacelle design and stuck them on their BoPs.

35. Christopher Roberts - April 19, 2012

31. Life? Why the hell would you want one of those?!? LOL

36. Xplodin_Nacelle - April 19, 2012

It kinda reminds me of the TMP V’Ger spacewalk suit that Nimoy wore

37. Max - April 19, 2012

More suits= more action figures to sell.

38. Christopher Roberts - April 19, 2012

This has got HASBRO action figure written all over it. :))

Has Quinto checked out the lettering under his right foot? Made in China.

39. Landru's cousin, Dandru - April 19, 2012

#1: You wrote:
“There copying first contact aren’t they I want to see more TNG and no reboots Star Trek is about going forward not back Gene legacy isn’t being used as the base for Star Trek”

You have absolutely NO basis on which to form that conclusion. All you have are photos of a guy in a suit.

And this whole “Star Trek is about going forward not back” notion is remarkably narrow-minded. Star Trek fans are supposed to embrace IDIC.

40. La Reyne d'Epee - April 19, 2012

They better not be doing a Transformers crossover, that’s all I can say…

41. Landru's cousin, Dandru - April 19, 2012

#31: You wrote:
“Really you guys need to get a life!!”

Come on… really? That’s SUCH a cliche. You don’t actually think anyone sees that as an effective put-down, do you?

42. PEB - April 19, 2012

okay…I recognized that this site is filled with just as many people who love JJ’s Trek feature(s) as much as there are those who come here to rant about how they hate his and the new team’s vision and how they feel he’s raping the Trek universe. I’ve argued my point on many many days and I really didnt want to respond to your post at first because I have a feeling SOME people post comments like that just to push buttons and see how many responses they can get. But I’ll do it anyway. To your entire argument- go look at the clip of footage of Gene himself saying that he expected/hoped someone down the line would go back and revisit the original characters, recast them etc and put a fresh spin on it. But I dont know, maybe you missed that.

43. MikeTen - April 19, 2012

@38, you will know when images come out of the Enteprise transforming into a giant gun.

44. CW - April 19, 2012

They are filming at my daughters’ school this coming week, tuesdsay the 24th. Anyone have any information about that? We are curious if they are using any of the big cast members or if its just a crowd scene. Thanks.

45. Gary Neumann - April 19, 2012

Where is that school?

46. Garak - April 19, 2012

On Location News: Star Trek continues shooting with multiple units in downtown Los Angeles Bunker Hill & Historic Core and also at Raleigh Studios Playa Vista Lot remainder of week.

What kind of places are they?

47. Lancelot Narayan - April 19, 2012

PLEASE stop doing this. I know you probably feel like you have a responsibility to the fans, but you’re spoiling the movie and probably pissing off Paramount at the same time.

Unless of course you’re in on it.

48. George Zip - April 19, 2012

Hey Mongo; I’m hoping JJ’s next outing will indeed be the MICRONAUTS and that he chooses to adapt the Marvel Comics storyline from the late 70s. The first 11 issues are a perfect movie script.

49. Phil - April 19, 2012

@ 29, 30. ZQ is holding on to it in the pic or has it strapped to his person. Besides, they can CGI out the cables, so it could be either way.

50. bud - April 19, 2012

Please no Khan. No need to mess with a perfect movie. That being The Wrath of Khan.

51. The Atavachron - April 19, 2012

Reminds me of Spock in environmental suit in Star Trek The Motion Picture…

52. captain_neill - April 19, 2012

If those are the EVA suits, not as good as the First Contact designed space suits.

Agreed. Any new take on Khan would be inferior to the original

53. bmar - April 19, 2012

54. Craiger - April 19, 2012

If they are now redoing TMP then its offical Trek has run out of ideas. TMP was just ok for me.

55. "Check the Circuit! - April 19, 2012

Looks like he’s delivering film reels to the theater.

56. Craiger - April 19, 2012

Combing Space Seed and TWOK is redoing Trek but that sounds more interesting than redoing TMP if they are redoing either ideas.

57. Jonathan Todd - April 19, 2012

#1 shows how clueless you are. Gene himself had said that he foresaw at some point the studio going back and doing a reboot of Star Trek with a younger cast.

I’d love to see Titan to. But you know what? General audiences don’t. General audiences go “Star Trek Titan? Captain Riker? Who the frack is Captain Riker? I’m not spending money on this.” That’s what they did with the last TNG films. They said “these guys just don’t have what it takes to be the kind of big screen presences that the original crew was.” But Kirk and Spock? Everybody knows who William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy are. They know that Vulcans do the hand thing and have pointy ears. When asked about classic Trek, the average non Trekkie might say something along the lines of either “there were 10 movies before the most recent one?” OR “I remember the one with the whales!” MAYBE they saw First Contact as that would be the TNG film that would appeal the most to average audiences.

No, we’ll never revisit the TNG era again except from novels or Star Trek Online, and even that game is set beyond anything that’s really recognizable as TNG or DS9. If it is TNG it’ll likely be another reboot that’ll have the hardcore fans up in arms over breaking what they consider “canon” – even though old guard Star Trek couldn’t keep its own canon from one episode to the next .

58. No Khan - April 19, 2012

Looks like a typical movie set snap shot to me. Looks cool to me! I can’t judge a whole movie based on a few pictures. Sheesh people lighten up!

59. Craiger - April 19, 2012

#54 You do not have to worry about following canon for a TNG reboot because Abrams set up new canon by creating an alternate reality.

60. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 19, 2012

Was that a “Volcano leak” or a “Vulcan leak”?

……………….. Whatever JJAbrams surely was “freaking out”… ;-) :-)

61. Craiger - April 19, 2012

I think it would be interesting to see how the TNG tech changed since the altered reality also changed TOS tech.

62. captain_neill - April 19, 2012

I don’t think my heart could take a recasting of next Gen. The actors like the original cast are so associated with the roles that its hard to have other people play the roles.

Although I have gotten use to seeing different actors playing the iconic TOS characters, they wil never be as good as the originals. Sorry.

63. Sebastian S. - April 19, 2012

Great photos.
They (maddeningly) don’t tell us any more than before, but great photos!


64. Thomas - April 19, 2012

44. Garak

Here’s some information on Bunker Hill:,_Los_Angeles

65. DiscoSpock - April 19, 2012

So Spock isn’t a Vulcan anymore. Now he’s a Vulcanologist!

Darned Abrams-Trek alternate-reality…

66. Andrew - April 19, 2012

Where is everyone getting this volcano idea from? Why would the person snapping the spy photos know the nature of the shot? Unless a crew member yelled, “Yo, Quinto, you ready for the volcano scene?” …. I Doubt it.

67. Jason - April 19, 2012

@1 – Amen Paul, amen.

@40 – I read the quotes from Gene about his hopes for the future of Trek. And you know what? They were already fulfilled with Berman and Braga.

I wasn’t going to get into this, but in light of the over use of these quote (most of them used out of context), lets go. First, Gene, bless his soul, was a full on business man/ Hollywood producer when he made more of those comments. If you put it in it’s full context, Gene was dealing with the possible loss of one of his big stars in what was going to/ was (in the case of the film) the return to his biggest Hollywood success.

People love Spock, but the idea at the time of having “Star Trek” without him just was not sitting well with many. Gene was smart enough to realize he could loose a bunch of his audience if he didn’t do something to calm them down, so he pulled most of those quotes out of his butt, and I’m sure at the time he meant them. You’ll just about never hear any producer or director talk bad about a film or show they are working on. They are trying to sell you, the audience on the show. So, no matter how negatively an audience sees something, the producers and directors will always, like a position, pain a positive spin on things. That is what Gene was doing.

Second, and I realize this may be sacrilegious in saying this, but many of Gene’s ideas were just bad. Gene had something in common with Walt Disney, and it was both men’s greatest talent, and that was they were able to attract others who were far more talented then they were to make them look good. Both started off the basic, undefined premise behind their success, and then they brought in others to make it better.

The biggest thing that Gene actually did create that was his best idea was the premise of the show: that mankind isn’t going to destroy itself. The notion that humanity can overcome itself is a powerful message. THAT is what attracted most of the fans of the show, THAT message is what has, for better or for worse, carried over and been analysed in every version of “Star Trek,” right up to JJ-Trek, where it has been replaced by lens flares.

This debate is rather tiring. I’m really happy people like JJ-Trek, I really do. Just please understand that some of us would rather see more of the real thing, and it’s hard after years of enjoying if you will, “fine European chocolate” to now be served the “crappy, waxy cheep stuff” and be told it’s “better” and what we can look forward to from now on.

I really don’t see why the JJ-verse and the Prime Universe can’t both be used at the same time. Give JJ-Trek the movies, but please at least give the Prime Universe tv. I really don’t think Paramount gives the fan base enough credit, we really will know the diffidence, we already do.

68. Jason - April 19, 2012

@54 – Next time you can created 700+ hours of entertainment and keep a perfect continuity, let me know. Difference between Berman and JJ: Berman actually tried to keep things making sense and went to great lengths to do so. JJ doesn’t care, and in fact decided to take the lazy way out and “re-imagine” everything in the mess he has been trying to pass off as “Star Trek.”

Putting the “Star Trek” gripes aside, JJ’s film makes no sense and is filled with head scratching moments throughout. But it’s ok, I mean his version is “sexier,” whatever that has to do with if a thing is good or not.

69. denny cranium - April 19, 2012

I think this is an epsiode reboot like the current comic series

70. Craiger - April 19, 2012

#69, I wonder if it could be an all new story and villain because didn’t Orci say that the retelling of the TOS episodes would only be done in the Countdown Comics?

71. Garak - April 19, 2012

Thanks bmar and Thomas.

Well, volcano or not, It seems to be a deep and hostile place.

Look this photo. There are people looking a bright screen.

72. Craiger - April 19, 2012

#68, They have talked about alternate realities in TNG before.

73. porthoses bitch - April 19, 2012

Me thinks that the “volcano suit” may simply be a misreading of “vulcan” by a non fan. Nothing like a good old fashioned game of telephone.

74. Landru's cousin, Dandru - April 19, 2012

#54–Craiger wrote:
“If they are now redoing TMP then its offical Trek has run out of ideas. TMP was just ok for me.”

What is WITH some of you people? No one has indicated that this is a remake of TMP. So no, it’s NOT official that Trek has run out of ideas. Honestly, people, some of you are unreal.

75. mojomonkey - April 19, 2012

No one believes my “space pizza” theory :(

76. Sybok - April 19, 2012

You are not of the body!

77. ECHUSA - April 19, 2012

It’s a combination of THe Orbital skydiving from Generations and Voyager

and the Enterprise EV Suit

I don’t see it as a volcano thing but probably a space walk. We shall see

78. Craiger - April 19, 2012

#74, I did say if it is a TMP remake.

79. Landru's cousin, Dandru - April 19, 2012

Craiger wrote: “I did say if it is a TMP remake.”

Er…. huh? I don’t follow what that’s supposed to mean.

80. Daoud - April 19, 2012

Cumberbatch is Trelane, and Spock is skydiving down to Gothos to try to help Kirkand lands in a volcano almost?

81. Craiger - April 19, 2012

#79 Your post was sounding like some of in here have already decided the sequel is a TMP remake and we are just speculating.

82. Jonboc - April 19, 2012

love it, this sequence is going to be awesome….Star Trek, staying true to the spirit of the original! So fun to finally be interested in Star Trek again!

83. Daoud - April 19, 2012

Yeah, at least we’re exploring strange new worlds one volcano at a time.

84. Trekker5 - April 19, 2012

To be real folks I really don’t know what to think about the suit. Idk,maybe it’ll all look better on the big screen.

85. rogerachong - April 19, 2012

I will go with the theory that it is a VULCAN suit and not volcano suit. Here’s why. If he were in a volcano the case would burn-up and he would be in a more viscous fluid than portrayed by him simulating a fall / drop next to the green screen. The design reflects a vulcan design and origin. Now if you were in space or on the surface of a planet close to an active sun ie. “new vulcan” then you would need a special suit to protect you from the heat (not magma which is a very viscous mixed fluid) while not necessarily destroying the case he is carrying. He is either space jumping as is shown in the first game trailer near “new vulcan” or some similar situation. Let us also remember an old post where it was stated that Bob Orci himself used the new I-Pad to show a vulcan female to Paramount execs when the sequel story was first pitched. I believe there is some continuation of the ripple effect that the destruction of Vulcan had created from the last film woven into the overarching plot..

86. Ceridwen - April 19, 2012

A Vulcan hovering over a volcano.. LOL Thank heavens we have CGI, the suit looks weird without it, but I’m sure on the screen it’ll be fun to watch. :)

87. Let Them Eat Plomeek Soup - April 19, 2012


He could be in a Vulcan volcano suit.

It’s the future–in the last one they wore leather jumpsuits in space and everything was fine. Why couldn’t they be wearing a suit with little orange mirrors all over it and survive diving into a volcano?

88. danielcraigsmywookiebitchnow - April 19, 2012

J.J. needs to announce who cumberbatch is playing so these Khan rumors can be put to bed, He is not Khan get over it, no matter how much you want him to be Khan he isn’t.

89. rogerachong - April 19, 2012

@87 Holy cripes Sherlock, who needs logic and proper science in Star Trek these days.

90. CarlG - April 19, 2012

@1: your run-on sentence and total lack of punctuation make you look really eloquent and have totally persuaded me to your side of the argument i can conclusively say that this film is clearly going to totally suck after seeing a grand total of a dozen photos with no added fx and no context god bless the internet

I like the volcano suits, but I can’t stop staring at that deeply unfortunate codpiece — it’s giving me Labyrinth flashbacks… o_O

91. Schultz - April 19, 2012


92. BringBackKirkPrime - April 19, 2012


93. Vash - April 19, 2012

Violating Star Fleet orders to use recently discovered Progenitor technology recovered from a Qo’noS vulcano to go back in time to restore Vulcan is cheating Kirk.

94. SciFiJunky - April 19, 2012


I second the motion.

95. GG - April 19, 2012

@ 85. rogerachong

“I will go with the theory that it is a VULCAN suit and not volcano suit. Here’s why. If he were in a volcano the case would burn-up and he would be in a more viscous fluid than portrayed by him simulating a fall / drop next to the green screen..”

“A star went supernova, destroyed Romulus, and threatened to destroy the entire galaxy” – Prime Spock (a supernova, destroy the ENTIRE GALAXY????)

Need I say more?

96. Red Dead Ryan - April 19, 2012

I’ve just read a bunch of asinine comments. People bitching about this and that, others whining about how J.J Abrams supposedly ruined “Star Trek”, and still other folks complaining about the suit Spock is wearing in these photos. And oh yeah, Captain Neill rehashing his complaints yet again.

Sheesh. Some of you people are taking things way to seriously.


97. Brevard - April 19, 2012

How can these possibly be leaked photos? They are on a sound stage on a closed set. These photos have to be coming from inside the production team. Methinks, this is all part of the marketing. And, if not, somebody just got fired over this.

98. somethoughts - April 19, 2012

Lovely pics :) only gripe is the strap, looks like a strap made in 2012 for a movie or hand bag

99. somethoughts - April 19, 2012

I love the smart looking suit, good job bob and team, me thinks this will be epic, cant wait.

100. VOODOO - April 19, 2012

I love the wild conjecture that has nothing to do with reality in some of the above posts.

101. Marshall McMellon - April 19, 2012

This must be the scene where he’s trying to get HAL to open the pod bay door.

102. MikeB - April 19, 2012

JJ Abrams made Star Trek worth watching after years of “don’t rock the boat” story telling from Berman/Braga. (Enterprise season 4 being the exception). Trek started going down hill around season 5 of TNG and only got better with Season 4 of Enterprise and finally JJ Abram’s movie. As a lover of Trek since the 70’s I for one am glad to have Trek back and being well done. Not catering to fan boys whose only concern is fraking continuity and mind numbing techno-bable. I can’t wait for the new movie!!!

103. DeShonn Steinblatt - April 19, 2012

Star Trek is not about the background canon.

104. Mike H. - April 19, 2012

Jumping To Conclusions 101 (or) Guessing The Plot

Spock in a red colored pressure suit of some kind…

Look closely at the suit’s design…

Notice it is composed of reflective and rectangular elements…

Heat protection elements? Thus adding evidence to the idea that Spock is dealing with a very hot setting…

Volcanoes, magma chambers, magma channels…

Early forerunner experiment to the Genesis Project making use of volcanic enviroments…

Spock fighting a human looking man (Benedict Cumberbatch) The human looking man wearing scientist garb with a Starfleet emblem…

The human looking man that Spock fights might be a Klingon agent surgically altered to look human…

Klingon Empire wants to steal the terraforming experiment…

Conclusion: no Khan or other genetic superman / augment needed…

Star Trek 2013 is likely to be a good spy thriller in over all narrative…

Star Trek 2013 will likely end on a cliff-hanger ending – the balance of power between UFP and Klingon Empire has shifted – war is declared…

On the eve of war Spock and Uhura enter into civic union – Uhura is pregnant with Spock’s child…

Helping to drive the UFP-Klingon War are those sentient athropods from the Next Generation episode The Conspiracy. Those sentient athropods made an alliance with Nero. One of those sentient athropods is still inside Admiral Pike – using the poor admiral to ruin the UFP and the Klingon Empire – thus Pike’s own body is like a cage – Pike’s mind is a prisoner in his own body…

Will the crew of the USS Enterprise figure out how to stop the war and stop Pike? Kirk must stop the man he thinks of as a surrogate father figure…

Like it has been suggested the Star Trek 2013 film will be akin to The Empire Strikes Back in terms of scope and consequence…

We’ll have to see the Star Trek 2015 (or) 2016 film for the resolution…

105. Harry Ballz - April 19, 2012

I think it really sucks that Bob Orci hasn’t found the time to appear here lately…..

Bob…..come out, come out, wherever you are!

106. Vulcan Soul - April 19, 2012

Jeez now they are not only copying 1930s Flash Gordon in the crudeness of their plots and messages, but in terms of costumes too!

It’s time to bring science fiction to the 2010s socially and technologically, with the world rapidly moving past what most science fiction has predicted so far. And Star Trek clearly is not doing that!

107. Sebastian S. - April 19, 2012

# 104. Mike

I like that! ;-)

I like the idea of Cumberbatch playing a 23rd century, human-looking Klingon spy (ala Arne Darvin); there’s plenty of precedent (the Klingons of that time should be the smooth-headed kind). And having Cumberbatch play him would bring a whole different shading to the Klingons (not just surly crude space Vikings, but clever, devious intelligent spies as well).

I don’t know what they’ll do, but that would be very interesting indeed….

108. MJ - April 19, 2012

@97 “I’ve just read a bunch of asinine comments. People bitching about this and that, others whining about how J.J Abrams supposedly ruined “Star Trek”, and still other folks complaining about the suit Spock is wearing in these photos. And oh yeah, Captain Neill rehashing his complaints yet again.”

Yea, it must be “re-runs week” over at the Captain’s house, as he has multiple posts here on several articles the past few days with his supposedly clever indirect jabs at nuTrek. It really does bring back some fond memories of yesteryear, when we got to read the Captains bitching posts more frequently…yes, those were the good ole days when the Captain held court with his critics like us….

“Memories, light the corners of my mind
Misty watercolor memories of the way we were.

Scattered pictures of the smiles we left behind
smiles we give to one another
for the way we were.

If we had the chance to do it all again
tell me would we? Could we?”

109. MJ - April 19, 2012

@105 “I think it really sucks that Bob Orci hasn’t found the time to appear here lately…..”

His team is eight months behind on Ender’s Game (sound familiar?), plus JJ won’t let him say a word about the new Trek movie.

He’s a creative genius who helped bring back Trek for us all, but timely he aint. :-)

110. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - April 19, 2012

Spock, Spock, Spock. Always Spock …and Uhura. These leaks seem intentional.

111. Vultan - April 19, 2012


Hey, hey, hey. Let’s not compare Abrams’ Trek to Flash Gordon!
That’s insulting… to Flash Gordon.

112. Buzz Cagney - April 19, 2012

#1 that, to me, is going backwards. And going backwards to a place that very few actually care to go.
Marina Sirtis blabbed that same ‘going bacwards’ nonsense but had no such qualms about going ‘back’ and helping make a proper mess of the Enterprise finale. Not that Enterprise wasn’t always a mess!
No, there are still stories to be told about Kirk and crew. TNG has been well and truly told.

113. Vultan - April 19, 2012


Buzz! How are things across the pond?

114. Captain_Conrad - April 19, 2012


Roddenberry said he would have liked to see someone redo his original series. This movie is that wish come true

115. Buzz Cagney - April 19, 2012

#113 ah same old same old mate. I’m still hunting for a decent job. I admit i’m being picky, but, even so, its proving to be tougher than I thought it would. I still fancy trying my hand at car sales but it is a closed shop pretty much. Unless you can demonstrate a proven track record there are few opportunities to get in as a trainee- no matter how much natural ability you may have.
I have one possible lined up. Just waiting to get a second interview. If I don’t get that then I’m really not sure what i’m going to do.

And how are things with you? Tornado dodging I hear! I did hear there had been some in OK but noticed, to my relief, you were still posting!

116. Vultan - April 19, 2012


Thanks for the concern, but no twisters so far in my neighborhood. A few on the other side of the state, but not here. “Tornado Alley” as they call it is not what it was ten or twenty years ago. It’s moved east—the worst of it—closer to the Mississippi River. Then again, it could move back!

Hope the job interview works out for you, Buzz. Keep your chin up. And if it doesn’t work out, something else will come along. Always does.

Hey, on the plus side, the most recent series of Top Gear has started over here. Suddenly TV is interesting again. POWERRRR!!! :D

117. Aaron - April 20, 2012

I wonder if there is time travel… they go back and drop spock into an about to be destroyed Vulcan with a device to save it. Lots of fans would like them to do that I am sure. And Vulcan was very Vulcano-ish when going bye bye in the last flim.

118. captain_neill - April 20, 2012

JJ Abrams made a great film, I will admit that but the Trek that came before him was still good.

Someone said he thought Trek went downhill after Season 5 on TNG, this is bull. I believe that DS9 was one of the best spin offs. And if the fans had given Enterprise a chance they would have seen a wonderful show in the end.

I also agree the suit is reminincent of the orbital skydiving suit.

The last Star Trek film was a lot better than I thought it would be be and I look forward to Star Trek XII, I am sorry that I feel that Abrams take on Trek is not my preferred Trek. I happen to like the Berman era.

Its just that I dont see the new movie as the best ever Trek, there are past movies and shows which I stil find stronger. The new movie is great to get Trek back in the spotlight.

I also saw Paramount’s 100 Years film club flyer in a recent Paramount film I bought on DVD. Guess which Star Trek film was represented in a bunch of stills from their films for their 100th Anniversary? You got it it was the last one where I think it should have been II, a shot with Shatner and Nimoy as Kirk and Spock, but at least Trek was represented.

119. captain_neill - April 20, 2012

And MJ I am sorry I dont share your feelings, I DISAGREE with al your Next Gen coments and I get the feeling that you have no love for it.

And the Next Gen and Phase II hate on this site pisses me off on this site. Its the thats be nice about the Abrams film but bitch about everything else vibe that I comented on years ago. Cant we like both?

The spinoff shows don’t take away from TOS they only add to the universe and Next Gen is one of my al time fav shows, I love al five Trek shows and always will.

120. Buzz Cagney - April 20, 2012

Thanks for the positivity, Vults. It is definitely needed! I’m getting used to being off work now and have become a feature at the school gates. Never thought i’d end up doing the school run!

That series of TG was pretty good I thought. Only a couple of low points.

On another matter, have you ever seen the extras on the Master and Commander dvd? If you haven’t I totally recommend it.
Peter Weir is one fascinating man. His attention to detail is quite staggering. Far more so than you’d ever pick up watching the movie. They even had the weave of the ropes correct for the period!
Movie making must be the best job in the world.

Vults, email me when you get a moment.

121. James - April 20, 2012

What if its not a volcano, what if its the doomsday machine? ! !

122. Gary Makin - April 20, 2012

Star Trek 2: Electric Boogaloo better not film in a forest either, because Star Wars has filmed in forests…


123. Basement Blogger - April 20, 2012

How come the suit is red. Wouldn’t that color make it hard for him to be spotted in the volcano, assumng somebody wants to find him. I wonder if the volcano is on earth or perhaps a strange new world.

124. Pinsent - April 20, 2012

I like the red suit – the EV suits from season one of TOS were all red… it kind of reminds me of those.

125. captain_neill - April 20, 2012


They were contamination suits if referring to ones in “The Naked Time”

126. thebiggfrogg - April 20, 2012

Bowie’a in space! Bowie’s in spaaaaaaaaaaaa–aaaa-aaa-ccc-e! Ziggy Stardust to Major Tom: we want our spangles back!!!

127. mojomonkey - April 20, 2012

I think it’s a Red Matter suit!!

128. CJS - April 20, 2012

After the last leak of photos from the set, JJ probably decided to stage this whole scene just to throw people off track. Then he arranged to have photos leaked of Spock in his Volcano Suit. That’s why Zachary Quinto is laughing so hard, over the fans that will spend the next year arguing over the red suit.

129. ST fan - April 20, 2012

Looks pretty good, people should not criticize these pics! They haven’t even added the cg and special effects yet, so we don’t really know what’s going on. Here’s my guess on the plot, which is just a guess and probably not it but anyway,
Kirk suspects the Romulans are planning to destroy earth and take revenge. The Romulans offer their help to the Vulcans to help rebuild their planet, when they’re really hoping to get them to help plot the war. Kirk tells Spock of his suspicions but Spock won’t agree because he can’t imagine his race joining with the Romulans for war, and because he’s still suffering from the grief of losing his home planet. This results in some tension in Spock and Kirk’s friendship and results in Spock almost getting killed by Cumberbatch when he tries to find out the truth. My guess is that Spock is going in the volcano to retrieve or get rid of something, or maybe he’s just trying to get to Cumberbatch to kill him. Maybe(and just maybe) Uhurah finds out she’s pregnant and with the war starting Spock feels responsible for putting her in danger because of the war. So then he makes some kind of self acrifice or something to stop the war. (which doesn’t work).
This is all a broad guess, and believe me, it’s probably nothing like the real plot, but it’s just a guess!

The movie will end with a cliffhanger and leave us all wondering what will happen next.

130. SciFiJunky - April 20, 2012

@101 – Thanks for making me laugh! That was funny.

131. Decker - April 20, 2012

brb, Delivering pizzas to Mustafar…

132. Patroclus - April 20, 2012

What?! Nothing about George Takei’s birthday?! Happy Birthday George!

133. Commodore Adams - April 20, 2012

I love the shiny dark copper colour, looks great. I also love how its a nod to the red hazard suits from TOS and the suit from TMP.

134. Ucklak - April 20, 2012

Star Trek: Spock Versus the Volcano.

135. Daoud - April 20, 2012

Oh my! Happy Birthday no-longer-curious George! :)

136. NuFan - April 20, 2012

Bob Orci posted in the Shuttle Enterprise article. But if you have no interest in reality, you miss these things.

137. Moonwatcher - April 20, 2012

Maybe he’s entering the volcanic temperatures of the “Doomsday Machine” and that’s an explosive device he’s carrying.= : )

138. tman - April 20, 2012

Didn’t read all the posts — sorry if redundant — Wonder if they plan to leave Quinto or his stunt double suspended in the suit, spot lit and spinning at the wrap party. Somehow seems the appropriate thing to do.

139. fiercey - April 20, 2012

This is clearly footage from Spock’s Broadway debut, entitled: “I Can Fly, Green Sky”.

140. boborci - April 20, 2012

What up?

141. Andrew - April 20, 2012

boborci is back! So Mr. Orci, how pissed is JJ? (I’ll take no response as very pissed!)

142. boborci - April 20, 2012

He executed an innocent PA on the spot,

143. captain_neill - April 20, 2012

Wow Quinto in costume in front of a green screen, real spoiler.

144. MONGO - April 20, 2012

So now you tell us Orci mans:

What up?

What that suit for? What name of movie? What?

Mongo just want know little bit. Then not bother. Well, maybe Mongo not make promise. Still chance Mongo bother inadvertently. On unrelated issue.

145. Red Dead Ryan - April 20, 2012


Yo, dawg, how you been chillin’? Hope it’s all been good in the ‘hood, brotha!

Also, MJ says “Ender’s Game” is eight months behind schedule. I hear that the posters on Ender’sGameMovie.Com are in a big panic. A lot of crazy conspiracy theories going on over there!

146. fiercey - April 20, 2012

Never liked the name Formics. They should be called Infestors.

147. boborci - April 20, 2012

Enders game right on schedule. But we decided Nov 1 date was too good to pass up. Still will finish the movie as though we were releasing for march. We dont get any extra time.

148. Aaron - April 20, 2012

I stand by what I said in my last post on this thread. Even though it was late at night and my brain wasn’t functioning well. I think they go back in time to save Vulcan. Time travel was a huge part of TOS and a couple movies to. If they can time travel to save Earth why not Vulcan. Perhaps it’s young… perhaps it’s senior… but one of the Spocks has devised a device (is Carol Marcus involved in this devices creation? I would guess) that if brought into the fissure will potentially fix the problem. Of course it’s always a maybe with these things for suspense purposes. Was protomatter involved ala Genesis Device. Hmmm better yet what if they save the planet only to see it die again as protomatter is unstable. Young Spock pictured here is in a special environmental suit delivering the device. Theory for Cumberbatch in the photos we saw before. Temporal Police trying to stop the plan? Perhaps they know that Spocks device would make it even worse? As I recall the Temporal Police DS9 etc wore all black with a black logo on it. Hmmm could Spock and Uhura be going this mission alone to save his home planet. Love knows no bounds sort of thing maybe. Well just a thought. I still want to personally see tensions in the Federation go up and a new militaristic president elected. Romulan war follows.

149. boborci - April 20, 2012

Well, Mongo, rghit now we are leaning toward the title STAR TREK, TOO.

Unless you guys can think of a better on;)

150. Aaron - April 20, 2012

Oh… Hi Mr. Orci… Hope production is going well. I won’t ask any questions as you can’t tell anyways but I will wish continued good luck. I do hope the leaks aren’t upsetting cast or crew. I am sure as a part of our industry they all know to expect these sorts of things. Regards.

151. boborci - April 20, 2012

150. Yeah, they’re mostly grown ups. They can handle it.

152. Red Dead Ryan - April 20, 2012


Well, judging by how much excercise you guys are putting the cast through, I would have to say that “The Simpsons” may have accurately nailed it:

“Star Trek XII: So Very Tired”

153. CJS - April 20, 2012

Orci ain’t talkin. He’s as tight-lipped as an Aldebaran shellmouth.

154. Andrew - April 20, 2012

Bob, can you confirm or deny whether the volcano idea comes from non-trek fans misunderstanding the word vulcan, or if this scene actually involves a volcano.

I can imagine it now….

Photographer: ‘Hey, I got these sweet pictures of Spock in some kind of kick ass red suit dangling ten feet above the ground!’
Reporter: ‘Who the hell is Spock, and why would I care if he’s wearing a red suit?’
Photographer: ‘You know, Star Trek! Spock, the Vulcan. The movie is going to be huge man – you have to run it.’
Reporter: ‘Yeah, yeah. What did you say? Volcano, Spok? Right, got it.’

155. boborci - April 20, 2012

He is being lowered into a Pon Farr chamber where… Well, you’ll see.

156. rm10019 - April 20, 2012

lol, that was actually funny!

157. Lt. Bailey - April 20, 2012

#155 Mr Orci.

If you do not mind a little speculation on my part, i still would like to go with my first guess…. maybe that device is a Red Matter Quantum Reversal Enabler made by our favorite Prime Universe Vulcan and given to the the new time line Vulcan to return the planet Vulcan to its rightful place in the Galaxy…and the UFP.

Ortherwise, looking forward to the film and seeing with our ST friends.

158. rm10019 - April 20, 2012

157 – Why would they destroy Vulcan, a signal that this isn’t your father’s Star Trek, only to hit the reset button in the very next movie?

PS Bob, I still vote for Boldly Go! as the subtitle.

159. Simon - April 20, 2012

@boborci –

Not sure what all the secrecy is supposed to accomplish. People are seeing THE HUNGER GAMES in droves and that’s because they know the story intimately from reading the novel.

I’m sure Paramount would love to see HUNGER GAMES type numbers from your film.

$500 million and everyone knows the plot…including the ending! Hmm?

160. boborci - April 20, 2012

We didnt have time to write it first as a best selling novel!

Sure, in book form, you can fall in love with the story. But a spoilery paragraph describing the story would only lead to misunderstanding.

161. SoonerDave - April 20, 2012

“Spoilery paragraph,” eh?

Sounds to me like any relevant excerpt from the story would induce significant water-cooler talk, so much that it has to be kept under wraps.


162. draderman - April 20, 2012

Well, if it is a “Ponn Farr chamber, that explains the glowing codpiece.

Thanks Bob.

163. MONGO - April 20, 2012

OK Orci mans. Mongo have names for movie:

Star Trek: Spok Volcano Suit Rises
(or maybe)
Star Trek: Rise of Spok Cod Piece

Star Trek: The Great Wall of Shipping Containers

Star Trek: The Undiscovered Photo Leak

Star Trek: Wrath of JJ mans

Star Trek: Volcano or Vulcan?

Star Trek: The Hunger Games

Star Trek: Disco Ball Uniform Disaster

Star Trek: Orci mans Not Tell

Mongo hungry.

164. Craiger - April 20, 2012

Why keep the villain a secret? How is that being spoilery?

165. Craiger - April 20, 2012

You wouldn’t even have to have a synopsis. Say if you said it what villain it was then we would love speculating on how the villain would be protrayed in the sequel. That would build up hype for the sequel.

166. MJ - April 20, 2012

To all the Einsteins asking questions and requesting spoilers from Bob about Enders Game…it is based on a very popular SF novel from a couple of decades back from Orson Scott Card. Just read the fracking novel….LOL

I’m hoping the Bob’s movie is better than the novel. I find the novel OK, but pretty overated considering the following it and its weird author have. There are a lot of better sf novels out there that will never see the light of day unfortunately. This was just happens to involve video games, so that was its ticket to popularity.

167. porthoses bitch - April 20, 2012

Im pretty sure Bob Orci is bobOrci not boborci….

168. MJ - April 20, 2012

I am not seeing this fake “Bob Orci” post(s) that you guys are talking about. Did Anthony already delete them?

169. Daoud - April 20, 2012

@140… Bob, with these pictures, clearly I can tell you’re leaning towards:
After all, that honors Mongo very nicely. :)

170. MJ - April 20, 2012

@155 “He is being lowered into a Pon Farr chamber where… Well, you’ll see.”

Ah, yes Bob, similar to the “Orgasmitron” in Barbarella….a nice inside joke to us die hard sf fans…cool!

PS: Thanks for the correction on the reasons for the release date move fore Enders Game…I stand corrected. But I am sticking to my prediction/deduction that Khan is in your new Trek movie.

171. harley3k - April 20, 2012

Who is the Bo Broccoli guy everyone is talking about?

172. Jack - April 20, 2012

Why can’t I know what I’m getting for Christmas? Can I just have a hint? Just one hint and no more. It’s not fair, Jennifer’s mom gave her a hint. Just tell me the colour.

The Hunger Games/ Harry Potter comparisons faltes a little if we note that the plots for those books (the sequels) were kept secret until they were released. Yes, once people read them they knew the plots of the future movie, but they’d actually experienced the whole darned thing as it was meant to be experienced (along with, ideally, not knowing the ending while they were reading). And part of the fun when those become movies is not knowing what they’ll keep and how they’ll do certain things. There was plenty of secrecy (or, more accurately, privacy) on those sets.

I still don’t understand this need to know the protagonist — either it’s a name you’ve never heard of or it’s someone you have heard of, which will be a little spoiler-y. And we won’t be satisfied with just a name, we’ll want a description like “Starfleet scientist” and then we’ll want to know what kind of scientist and so on and so on.

“Say if you said it what villain it was then we would love speculating on how the villain would be protrayed in the sequel. That would build up hype for the sequel.”

I don’t think it will build up hype. And, anyway, they don’t need hype from us. We’re not their marketing target. We’ll go see the damned thing anyway.

I get that people want to know, but it’s not particularly crazy, secretive or disrespectful to fans to keep details under wraps while they’re still filming. or even during post production.

Personally, 388 days of plot speculation here will kill me. But a little less painfully than 388 day of people complaining about a plot synopsis, were they to give one, and how it pisses on everything that Trek has ever stood for.

And if we start complaining here about Cumberbatch being “Bill Johnston, starfleet officer” then there will be stories like “Fans Fear Boring Villain.”
“Trekkies: Villain’s Name Sounds Lame.”

Were there a poll (…), I’d not want to know the identities of any of the characters until a lot later. Hell, I’d like to go into this thing knowing as little as possible.

Don’t you guys who want details worry that you won’t be surprised by anything?

173. Jack - April 20, 2012

The usual PS: Bob said exactly what I’d meant to say in two sentences (I’d missed his comment somehow). This is why I don’t write dialogue.

Please leave us guessing.

174. AJ - April 20, 2012

AVENGERS is looking at a $150m+ opening weekend, and they’ve been spewing trailers, TV spots, behind-the-scenes stuff, and interviews for almost a whole year. The marketing is building a huge outpouring of anticipation. Same with ‘Prometheus.’

If JJ is just going to keep it all bottled up for ‘ST2: The Return of Mongo’ (A title would be the first step, and I’d bet they’ve got one), he builds none of the overpowering excitement needed to generate proper numbers in the first opening weeks.

175. DiscoSpock - April 20, 2012

#155 – Just as long as the Pon Farr chamber doesn’t look like a brewery. ;)

Seriously, now that you’ve planted that idea in my head, I had BETTER see a Pon Farr chamber in this movie or I’ll be righteously indignant for, oh, a minute or so.

176. Anthony Pascale - April 20, 2012

The boborci posting her is indeed the real one. Fakers are instabanned and deleted

177. dmduncan - April 20, 2012

I like the secrecy.

It has something of the feel of the neighbor building something in his garage. There’s all the noise, the late hours, the light lining the edges of the door at night.

And after all that wondering — a reveal.

It adds to the experience.

178. dmduncan - April 20, 2012

And, I’m sure, it’s also cool for the people working in secrecy.

179. dmduncan - April 20, 2012

Oh, and GOOD to see busy Bob Orci posting again!

180. Garak - April 20, 2012

Bob Orci said: “He executed an innocent PA on the spot”.
What is a PA?

181. Jack - April 20, 2012

174. And the actors have PR staff with them on all interviews to make sure they don’t spill any beans.

I just don’t buy that (the ‘if they keeps it secret for too long, nobody will see it’). They kept it secret for the first one — and then there was a hell of a push (EW etc.).

And, yep, we had complaints here because they weren’t releasing tonnes of stills months before filming. The popular opinion in comments here was — this thing will bomb because they kept it so secret. It’s a known property (unlike, really, John Carter of Mars). There’s enormous Trek buzz, without significant leaks or details.

Secrecy is the norm in these kind of films. It always has been.

I can only speak personally, but, if anything, all the talk about the Avengers (a movie with characters from four other familiar film franchises) for so long made me really not interested (God, why is that taking so long, they’ve been talking about it for years. Why do they need to push it so far in advance? Do they know it will suck?). Now that it’s coming soon, I’m getting interested again.

Have faith. There will be a hell of a marketing push for this. I’m hoping the campaign doesn’t give much away.

And, the best push will be if, like last time, the critics love it.

178. I wish we had secret handshakes where I work.

182. Jack - April 20, 2012

180. Production assistant?

Also, a Prince Albert, but probably not in this site.

183. Aurore - April 20, 2012

Star Trek : The ( Half Vulcan) Man With The Golden Suit

(Lens Flares could do wonders on that kind of shiny surface…)


184. captain_neill - April 20, 2012

OH I really hated the advertising of the last movie saying “This ain’t your Dad’s Star Trek”, it felt like a kick in the balls to Trekkies I thought.

185. captain_neill - April 20, 2012

A Production Assistant

186. NCM - April 20, 2012

@160. boborci – April 20, 2012: Good answer. I don’t want to know the title, the villain, the synopsis: I want to be propelled to my feet when I first see the trailer and for realistic speculation to begin then (as it should)!

Still, couldn’t you tell us something interesting yet not ‘spoilery’? There must be something…

Looking forward to EG, too. Bodes well that you were offered Nov. release, I would guess.

187. MJ - April 20, 2012

@184. I guess if I thought of myself as an old fart wedded to the past, then I would have been offended by this. But instead, I thought it was a pretty cool marketing line to try to bring some younger folks into Trek.

Ah Captain, you rants here have me getting all sentimental once again….

“Memories, light the corners of my mind
Misty watercolor memories of the way we were.

Scattered pictures of the smiles we left behind
smiles we give to one another
for the way we were.

If we had the chance to do it all again
tell me would we? Could we?”

188. Red Dead Ryan - April 20, 2012

I find it ironic how some people who complain that we’ve already got too many spoiler imagery keep coming to (and posting on) the very same threads they claim are threatening to ruin the surprise.

189. Jack - April 20, 2012

188. Not ironic. Dumb, and I say that as someone who dies it. I decry the spoilers because I don’t have the willpower to not look (although, this was one was up for 24 hours).

I don’t see anybody decrying the spoilers, really. I see people saying, proactively, that they’re hoping the production won’t reveal too many details.

190. Garak - April 20, 2012

That Pon Farr chamber (I think that he is not kidding) could be in a colony that Spock Prime said em ST2009 or in a secret place of the Vulcans

191. NCM - April 20, 2012

@188. Red Dead Ryan – April 20, 2012:

I see your point, RDR, and since I said I don’t want to know too many details before the trailer’s released, I’ll explain myself. I come here for all the things we read and discuss that aren’t Trek spoils. Think about it: to come here primarily for spoilers, one would have to be terribly desperate or remarkably patient.

Like Jack, I can’t resist spoilers. I was one of those kids who often previewed presents and felt underwhelmed on Christmas day.

192. Dr. Cheis - April 20, 2012

I like the lights on the inside of the helmet area.

193. dmduncan - April 20, 2012

You have a loose definition of “spoiler” if you think Spock in a shiny suit danging in front of a green screen is one.

194. NCM - April 20, 2012

Good point, dm. The only spoilers I’ve encountered, so far, are the Cumberbatch/Quinto photos.

195. Commodore Redshirt - April 20, 2012

What a thread… I can tell many of the people posting Friday were full of the spirit of 4/20 ….
And Bob Orci… those were the best answers EVER!

196. Simon - April 21, 2012

@184 – After what the “fans” did to NEMESIS and ENTERPRISE, sight unseen (bashing Nemesis weeks before it was released, not giving Enterprise the same chance to grow up like TNG & DS9, both of which were fairly bland in their first 2 seasons) they deserved a shot to the junk.


197. Simon - April 21, 2012

PS: Don’t get me wrong: NEMESIS did deserve the criticism (easily the weakest of the TNG films IMO) but to bash it without seeing more than a trailer is the height of ignorance and arrogance.

198. captain_neill - April 21, 2012


I am not an old fart, I am only 28. But have been loving Trek since I was 7.

I think in the end of the day whatever JJ Abrams did would divide the fan base, but I guess that is no different than the spin offs.

199. Kirk, James T. - April 21, 2012

What I don’t understand is why are posting these images – in the spirit of fun and anticipation, couldn’t Trekmovie stop posting these images.

failing that, the mighty Paramount Pictures should go forth and take them down themselves

200. Cyberziggy - April 21, 2012

I can’t help it…

I keep seeing the Zoolander pucker on Quinto’s face. Makes me think the villain is going to be the Prime Minister of Malaysia.

201. crazydaystrom - April 21, 2012

Two hundred first!!

202. SD - April 21, 2012

199. Once pictures are online, it’s completely hopeless to get them down from all places. Fans distribute them faster than speed of light.

I actually try to avoid them too and wouldn’t mind no more pictures… but when they are out, I still look and hope for a great next movie.

/illogical fan is illogical

203. CarlG - April 21, 2012

I’ll laugh when they put the CGI in and it turns out Spock is actually parachuting onto a tropical beach or something… Everyone here will be yelling “where the @&$! is the volcano!!!”

204. ST fan - April 21, 2012

I know you can’t say anything about the plot or anything but I just want to know, Is the script better and richer than the first one?
Zachary Quinto(it think it was him) said on an interview it was.
I was just wondering in YOUR opinion is it better? that’s all I want to know!

Thank You SO MUCH for not spoiling any of this movie!

I hope J.J. keeps everything a secret until Comiccon, and then just release some kind of teaser nothing else. Waiting is part of the fun!

205. ST fan - April 21, 2012

NOOOO WAYYYY of course giving the name of the villain would be spoilery! I don’t want to see who the villain is until November/December when the official trailer might come out.

206. NCM - April 21, 2012


207. ST fan - April 21, 2012

@206-I know right? If they gave us the name of the villain, then we’d know who he was, and that could even give away some of the plot. The more info on the movie people get, the more they’re going to want to know, so keeping it a surprise and secret keeps us on our toes without spoiling anything.
Anyway, I feel bad for J.J., I’m sure he gets upset when he sees all the spoilers. But somehow I think that he allows these spoilers to go onto the internet. I mean, we haven’t seen a picture of Chris Pine or an of the other Characters. I think J.J. doesn’t want any spoilers released, but he knows some will slip, so he allows only certain ones to be released. I mean if he really wasn’t happy then he could get trek movie to take these photos off of the internet.

Even though I don’t like spoilers, it’s still too tempting to come on the website every hour to check for more!;)
I even have a countdown clock for the release date as my homepage! lol
Can’t wait!

208. Jack - April 21, 2012

@ 196. Good points. Wow, we hate everything.

@ 205. We need more of us here. :).

I guess they’ll have to say something eventually (Cumberbatch on the press tour: “Yes, I’m playing someone, sort of.” Although, does anybody who watches Leno know who he is anyway?)

I’m not against studio-released photos, but I get grumpy about these presumably candid shots and that whole spoiler/pap industry. Yes, I still check them out, especially the filthy celebrity ones. I do a lot of things taht aren’t good for me. But this happens with most movies — with that last Indy, somebody tried to sell stolen photos etc. and was apparently charged, an extra gave a spoilery interview to some small local paper (and, of course, all is google-able and nothing is local anymore), which was pulled down, and fans scrutinized the upcoming Lego kits to try to figure out details (Thanks, Wikipedia!).

PS. Fringe was pretty enjoyable this week, although apparently there won’t be an immediate second part…

209. ST fan - April 21, 2012

@208.-There making lego kits for Star Trek? That’s hmmmm…..weird.

210. The Original Spock's Brain - April 21, 2012

You all see Leonard Nimoy’s cameo as William Bell on “Fringe” last night?

211. Lee - April 21, 2012

#149 – Well, leaving Batman off of the title didn’t hurt The Dark Knight at all. So if you want to leave Star Trek off the title of the new film, I wouldn’t complain. As long as the title is meaningful and fun.

212. alec grimes - April 21, 2012

BRING BACK DS9. Come on…at least a mini series made for direct-to-dvd. Why the producers haven’t gone this route is beyond me. They could take any of the 5 series and give us semi-sequels to them. Jezzz…! There is no sci-fi on tv today…nothing to watch but spartacus and game of Thrones.

213. Jack - April 21, 2012

211. Agreed! I’m hoping the words Star Trek aren’t in it.

Just how, the Star Wars movies were always the Star Wars movies, but only the first one was actually called Star Wars on posters etc. (I saw it in theatres when I was a kid in ’77, so that change to A New Hope never really took)

214. Jack - April 21, 2012

209. Sorry, not Trek (or, at least, not yet). Indiana Jones and the Crystal etc. I can never remember the exact title of that thing. Kingdom of? Meth Lab?

215. captain_neill - April 21, 2012


Well they already tried that with Enterprise and they ended up putting Star Trek back into the title. Apparently UPN thought that people didn’t realise it was a Star Trek show. Must have thought fans and audience were dumb on that one as it was marketed as Trek.

Yea it worked for The Dark Knight but the downside of it is that the “studio guys” seem to think The Dark Knight was a success because they dropped Batman from the title. They don’t seem to realise it was a success because it was a great film and that the title was also a play on Batman being referred to as Dark Knight in coparison to Harvey Dent as Gotham’s White Knight as well as the name batman is referred to. And now due to that thinking we are now getting a Superman film called The Man of Steel.

216. MJ - April 21, 2012

@125 “Apparently UPN thought that people didn’t realise it was a Star Trek show.”

Hell, I barely registered that it was a Star Trek show when it first aired…it was horrid early on. And that opening song just royally sucked eggs.

217. Shilliam Watner - April 22, 2012

The problem with Enterprise was that it was an attempt at a “reboot” by the very same people who had been doing it for decades. They quickly slipped into their old patterns and ways of storytelling until it seemed more like a death rattle than a fresh breath of air.

As for the subject of this article, it amazes me what some people can assume from looking at these photos. It’s funny, sad, aggravating and original.

Perhaps I am unimaginative, as I am assuming nothing after having seen these pictures. It could be anything going on here. Without knowledge of any context and no F/X completed, it’s like trying to read a book (remember those?) through a wall.

218. Sebastian S. - April 22, 2012

# 213.

I also saw the original, pre-New Hope Star Wars when it first came out. And I honestly don’t think the title “A New Hope” would’ve packed them into theatres in 1977. Now Star Wars? That’s a little snappier…. ;-D

As for not using Star Trek in the title? Bad idea.
ENT tried that on TV and as I recall, it kind of backfired on them. The show struggled anyway, and not having ST in the title didn’t help. It lacked ‘brand identification.’ You really shouldn’t have a Star Trek movie or show without ST in the title. I’m not saying it’s ‘blasphemy’ or ‘heresy'; I’m just saying it’s not good business sense. Brand names in marketing (especially a sequel) are very important, and why forsake it when you have one of the most iconic?

219. Christopher Roberts - April 22, 2012

My title suggestion for the sequel?

To Boldly Go in large lettering
with Star Trek in smaller case, above or below that.

Of course, it would be foolish to name a film, without knowing what it’s about. More of a case of hoping there’s some level of being the first to discover something and a basic Trek theme of exploring the unknown.

Or else, it could be called Vengeance of Vulcan or something.

220. dmduncan - April 22, 2012

Star Trek: A New Trope.

221. Sebastian S. - April 22, 2012

# 219


I really LIKE that! That’s a great title. Personally, I really don’t think they should call it “Star Trek 2″ as it sounds like they’re ignoring that other ST 2. Another reason I hate numbered sequels…

But your idea is (forgive the pun) stellar! ;-)
It’s evocative of TOS (and really ALL of) Star Trek without giving any plot elements away. Clever…

Very nicely done (if they use it, you should get kickbacks… ;-D).

222. Christopher Roberts - April 22, 2012

221. Pretty obvious but obvious sells very well!

Kickbacks? Nice thought! But nah… it’s been said for nearly 50 years and definitely ™ Paramount Pictures.

Seriously though. I’d settle for fictional, not financial. Another Admiral Archer reference would be great though. Or any kind of nod to ENT, like an Andorian crewmember or a mention of the Romulan War.

223. Sebastian S. - April 22, 2012



Have you read the ENT Romulan War trilogy of books? “Kobyashi Maru”, “Under the Raptor’s Wing” and (most recently) “To Brave The Storm”?
Some good material if you, like me, wanted to see (or read) how the Romulan war came out. There was even a nice explanation as to why the Daedalus class ships looked more ‘retro’ than the sleeker NX class.
A solid read for any ENT fan….

And honestly, I wasn’t much of an ENT fan until season 4 when, IMO, it really kicked into high gear and truly became the prequel to TOS I’d always hoped it would be. And just as I really started to truly LOVE it? It was cancelled. D’oh! Season 4 is the only season of the show I own on dvd, but I watch it often….


224. Jefferies Tuber - April 22, 2012

The design looks like an update of the suit from TMP:

I wonder if the drop on set was shot from the ground and designed to play in reverse. A shot like that with flames on set to reflect on his suit and played in reverse would look like Spock being ‘blown’ away by an explosion in space.

I don’t buy the ‘volcano’ thing.

225. Christopher Roberts - April 22, 2012

223. Sebastian, well I’ve got Raptor’s Wing and Storm on the shelf next to the DVDs. Last Star Trek books I’ve bought actually, but I still haven’t read them through yet. Can’t bring myself to, I suppose. I enjoyed The Good That Men Do, which undid most of the damage of Enterprise’s finale. Kobayashi Maru too. I struggle with the last two books a bit. Probably because they switched from telling the story from the NX-01 crew’s point of view, to kinda like listing broader events, often months apart. It’s as if there’s too much to cover in just two books really. The writers had to reduce it I suppose, based on low sales or Pocket Books wanting to stop producing ENT books. I’ll have to try to get into them again soon. But you can almost imagine whole episodes often between chapters.

Doug Drexler did this NX-01 refit once, with a secondary hull attached, over on his site and it appeared on a Ships of the Line calender. Not sure what you’re opinion of it was, but I kinda liked it. Seemed liked an interesting way to show the design evolving…

226. Christopher Roberts - April 22, 2012

224. Looking at that image from TMP, I often wonder how much of the Memory Wall sequence got filmed. To look at the extras on the Director’s Edition, you’d think it was just lighting tests with the spacesuits gliding up and down that channel on coathangers!

227. Gregster - April 22, 2012

It must be wildly entertaining for people working on this movie to read these comments (you know they do). Fans have already determined how scenes will look, sussed out complete story lines, or have “officially” declared the production creatively bankrupt when there is no way they could possibly know. Amazing!

228. Jack - April 22, 2012

Too bad The Final Frontier has been used already (and it may not fit… and it’s a little obvious). Basically, any series of words from that intro would work…

Good episode titles previously taken from that spiel:
Where no man has gone before
These are the voyages

On the same topic, if they’re using that intro again — I’m hoping they use the original, undiluted version, complete with “Where no man has gone before” and “strange new life” (not “lifeforms,” Mr. Nimoy).

It wasn’t automatically sexist, I’d argue — man and mankind includes all of us (heck, the word man is in the words human, woman).

229. Red Dead Ryan - April 22, 2012

There couldn’t be “woman” without “man”. Otherwise, each adult human female would be known as a “wo”. Of course, without man, the remaining humans would actually be known as “hu”s as well as “wo”s.

230. Red Dead Ryan - April 22, 2012

And also, there might be some typos that might be a tad embarrassing. An intentional “hu” could become an accidental “ho” if one doesn’t spell correctly or doesn’t proof read. :-)

231. Sebastian S. - April 22, 2012

# 225.


I have seen Drexler’s refit of the NX-01 (I for one, really loved it; it does look like some odd, smaller, proto-version of the TOS 1701) and I really like the “Ships of the Line” series of calendars. I buy them just for the eye candy…. ;-D

Here’s hoping you get a chance to dig into the Romulan wars books soon; I think you’ll enjoy them. They wrap it all up pretty well and (most surprisingly) they still manage to keep continuity with TOS (not an easy tap dance that was, I’m sure…). Continuity’s not that big a thing with me, but it’s nice when writers keep it in mind; it makes these far out, fictional stories a bit more grounded in their own realities.

I also enjoyed that they undid the Trip mistake of the ENT finale as well…. that never sat well with me (or most ENT fans, from what I hear).

232. Anthony Thompson - April 23, 2012

I’m no longer looking at the pics. But I’ve scrolled past them to ask two questions:
1. Where is the countdown clock?
2. Where is the online interview with JJ, Bob and the cast?

233. GG - April 23, 2012

@ 1. Paul – April 19, 2012

There copying first contact aren’t they I want to see more TNG and no reboots Star Trek is about going forward not back Gene legacy isn’t being used as the base for Star Trek

I want to see USS Titan

Well, there’s talk that they want to bring Trek back to TV (with Bryan Singer and JJ Abrams, perhaps?). I’d love to see what they could do with Riker and USS Titan, on mainstream (primetime) TV. Besides, Frakes and Sirtis would probably LOVE to do it, and Frakes was always great in the captain’s chair. A little too late for Capt. Sulu/Excelsior TV show, but I’d love to see those guys make a serious Trek TV show with Riker on one of the major networks with a big budget. That would be cool, for sure.

234. Phil Smith - April 23, 2012

Goofy indeed. The suit really looks silly.

235. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - April 23, 2012

I cant wait!!!


236. Azrael - April 23, 2012

@235. They were, their calendar did not account for Leap Years, so the “end of the world” was supposed to be about 7 months ago. Notice how we are all still here.

237. Andrew - April 23, 2012

@ 236

That’s not true. Leap year/day was created in order to MAINTAIN the calendar, not change it.

238. Azrael - April 23, 2012

Yes but because of it our December 2012 does not happen at the same time as the Mayan December 2012, because our calendar is based on the Julian calendar, not the Mayan calendar. A number of experts recently released a paper on this subject, I will admit I only skimmed it, but that is the gist.

239. Daoud - April 23, 2012

@238 The Mayan calendar counted days. 365 to the year. So, yep, the end of the world already passed us by.

240. Daoud - April 23, 2012

@239 We’re on the Gregorian calendar. Only the Eastern Orthodox churches still use the Julian Calendar. That’s why they celebrate Christmas in January, and Easter a few weeks later. Julian’s about 17 days behind Gregorian now, since Gregorian omits century leap years unless divisible by 400.
The End of the World already came for the Mayans arguably in the 1500’s, anyway.

241. Azrael - April 23, 2012

@240. Sorry Daoud, I mix those two up all the time, thanks for the reminder.

242. La Reyne d'Epee - April 24, 2012

184. Me too. Cos for one thing, it was all us girls who watched it.

243. Anthony Thompson - April 24, 2012


I cannot believe the superstitious / gullible people on this board. Really!

244. Keachick - rose pinenut - April 24, 2012

Thanks, Bob Orci. Your comments really tickled my funny bone. I have no problem with the title being “Star Trek, Too!” – works for me…:) Go for it, I mean it. Pon Farr chamber? Wow – I learn something new every day…:)

I don’t need to know any title nor the name of the villain. They are no big deals. As well, film titles are often changed the closer they get to release time. I think we would only be getting a working title anyway. And as for the villain…we know he/she/they are going to be mean, nasty sods. What more do you need or want?

245. SirMartman - April 24, 2012





Spider Spock !

246. Gabriel Koerner - April 24, 2012

Hehehe… its got a cod piece…

247. Keachick - rose pinenut - April 24, 2012

Codpiece? Oh so 16th century…:)

@ Bob Orci – I see that Argentina now has a release date for People Like Us, but none for the UK or Australia/NZ. I am so keen to see the film. When will I get the pleasure? Thanks.

248. Goosenecked Fan - April 24, 2012

#226 Christopher —

Hopefully, this site will answer your questions about the Memory Wall sequence…there are two great sections with photos that show quite a bit of it, if not all of it, was filmed!!

See link below:

249. captain spock - April 24, 2012

got to see thses new photos from the trek set……red trees . one photo looks like a dead body in the trees.

250. Keachick - rose pinenut - April 25, 2012

Our “cucumber-patch” will be a-Hawking on Prime television channel tonight (Wednesday, 25 April) at 8.35pm. The trailer for the BBC 2 hour biopic about the life of astronomer/physicist, Stephen Hawking, looks really good. He is played by none other than Benedict Cumberbatch. Lots to do before then…

251. Keachick - rose pinenut - April 25, 2012

I am not sure where to post this – but thought some might be interested:

252. Christopher Roberts - April 25, 2012

248. THANK YOU! I never realised it was an “alternative” to the Spock spacewalk sequence. It was the original idea they had for that scene. That makes more sense.

Expense probably prevents it, but hopefully someday a recreation of this (and maybe Kirk’s other death scene from Generations) will be considered Blu ray extras worthy.

253. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - April 25, 2012

I’m just happy to see Spock. :-)


LOL. Wrath of JJ has a ring to it. :-)

254. Picard's Fish - April 25, 2012

more tidbits:

Pine calls new movie, “Relentless” and “action packed”

also, new spoilery pics here:

255. TrekTech - April 25, 2012

I wonder if Cumberbatch is playing Garth. Starfleet uniform…hmmmmmm. Garth was a character that easily couldve been KHAN like in stature and this could be the story of what a Starfleet Fleet Captain DID to get committed,,,

256. rangerone314 - April 25, 2012

I’m hoping Cumberbatch is Garth of Izar!

257. Ucklak - April 25, 2012

Garth, Gary Mitchell (since he is possibly in cadet garb) or someone new. It really doesn’t matter to me. I know there has to be a “bad guy” in movies these days, but I for one wouldn’t mind an “adversary” that is more unconventional, like the V’ger probe or the probe in Trek IV. I mean, why does the adversary always have to be a pissed off biped?

258. Keachick - rose pinenut - April 25, 2012

“Relentless” and “action packed”. I hope that means in every sense of the words – relentless in the movie’s ability to show sweet, tender moments (especially for “my captain”) as well as what people normally consider strong and powerful.

PS Benedict Cumberbatch was very good playing the young Stephen Hawking – just so convincing, especially when he showed how motor neuron disease quickly disabled the young 21 year old. Very sad actually. Apparently the younger you get the disease, the faster the degeneration. The only organ not affected is the brain. No cure as yet either.

Roger Penrose, a Cambridge University friend and colleague of Hawking’s, proved the theory of singularity and Stephen Hawking (about 22 years old) proved mathematically the theory of the Big Bang. The notion had been around but had been dismissed by most cosmologists/physicists, including Sir Fred Hoyle who was actually the one who coined the term “Big Bang”. He still did not believe Stephen Hawking’s calculations because he said there was no evidence of “residue” “radiation” which such an event like the Big Bang would leave behind. However, in the USA at a similar time, two scientists (unfortunately I never got their names) identified a sound, a hiss coming from out there, everywhere, which could not be explained. It is believed now that the strange unidentifiable hissing sound is the “residue” from the Big Bang.

I hope this makes a bit of sense. I watched it on TV last night (Wednesday night, NZ time).

Curiously, at about the same time, mid 1960s, on the other side of the world a NZ mathematician, Roy Kerr, postulated two theories – one was that it might be possible to go through a black hole, ie not all black holes were the same (this is the kind of black hole that Nero and Spock were inadvertently pulled through – based on the real-life mathematically provable theory formulated by Roy Kerr). His other theory was that light does not always travel at the same constant speed, ie (approx.)186,000 miles per second.
Anyway, that is my meagre understanding. Fascinating stuff!

259. 7of5isconfusingtheBorg - April 25, 2012


260. somejackball - April 25, 2012

i think it’d be funny to have Kahless make a cameo in the next Trek. you know, Kahless from TNG – S6E23. be funny if he just all sudden appeared on the bridge and said “i am Kahless, i have returned!”. LOL

and then have em keep popping up once in awhile through out the film, repeating the same line!

261. Phil - April 25, 2012

OMGOMGOMG!!! they are wrapping production in San Francisco next week!! This can only mean they are remaking STIV!!! Save the whales!!

262. Keachick - rose pinenut - April 25, 2012

I put this on another thread – never sure where to put stuff I read, that may interest some here. Anyway, I read a rumour that they plan to film some of ST at the Crystal Cathedral in Orange County, Los Angeles. Check this out –

263. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - April 26, 2012

I find it interesting that the usual suspects aren’t throwing a fit over “these actors” not keeping their mouths shut, but instead they are yapping away with vague and useless information about a film that is a year away. :-/

So mum’s the word on that this time, eh? Then please keep that in mind whenever the rest of the cast has something “fantastic” about the movie to say.

Thanks, and no offense, but I felt like it needed to be said.

264. - April 26, 2012

This is actually from a scene where Spock has been miniaturized and is entering Kirk’s body through his nose.

265. Keachick - rose pinenut - April 26, 2012

Oh dear…

This is what Chris Pine said – “J.J. is super-secretive. The scripts are color-coded, and walking to and from set we have to wear coats and everything,”

Apart from telling us that the scripts are colour-coded (huh?), he has told us nothing we don’t already know. JJ Abrams is doing what he did with the first movie. Also Chris Pine was not speaking about the feelings of Abrams or anybody else on the Star Trek, just of his own feelings. Pine spoke only in general terms. Not so Zoe Saldana who spoke about how she thought JJ was upset/pissed at the pictures of Cumberbatch/Quinto and herself being *leaked*. Quinto then gave details on how long they had been working on doing the particular scenes that got leaked. Too much detail given.

Perhaps that is why we only see pictures and quotes from Chris Pine now and none from the other main cast, re Star Trek.

266. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - April 27, 2012

Okay, so I see that the rose-colored glasses are still in full effect when someone’s favorite is involved. Zoe didn’t tell us anything that a 5 year-old couldn’t deduce: If, like Pine said, JJ is so “secretive,” then of course he’s not going to be happy if a part of his film (even if it’s just set pics) is leaked.
And are you really telling me that Zach saying how long a scene took to film is giving away SUPER-MAJOR details??? Oh, come on now. I doubt that when any of us watch one of those scenes, like the fight scene with Cumberbach just as a generic example, that we’re gonna be sitting there with our stop-watches in hand, like “Oh, well I already knew that this fight was going to run for 2 minutes and 55 seconds. That Quinto totally killed it for me… “.

Sorry, but that’s just ridiculous. :-/

267. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - April 27, 2012

Correction: Now that I think about it, Zach didn’t even give us that much detail. How long the scene actually runs and which parts of what was filmed get used is still being decided as a part of the editing process (something I think even you, Keachick, eluded to at one point). He basically only said how long he and the rest of the cast involved spent working on those scenes.

Bottom line: No one is likely going to care that it took 3 days or 3 weeks to film those scenes when they are watching the movie. If any of us does, and that’s what we’re thinking about while watching them, then the movie will have had far, far more problems than an actor talking about how much time he spent filming scenes a year before the movie’s release.

268. captain_neill - April 27, 2012

Bad news folks.

Read an interview with Benedict Cumberbatch and has confirmed that the Budweiser brewery is being used again for the Engine Room.

Does Abrams not realise that not many fans liked that.

269. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - April 27, 2012

Well, captain, that was to be expected. It didn’t bother me much, but for some people it did.

270. captain_neill - April 27, 2012

Well if he must use the brewery I hope he dresses it up better. In the last movie it did not work because it looked like what is was, a brewery trying to be an engineroom. Took me right out of the movie.

271. Picard's Fish - April 27, 2012

need piece on Benedict Cumberbatch, and his “agitated, weary…strung out” audition

272. Phil - April 27, 2012

Good lord, more bitching about engineering again. It’s not unreasonable to expect to find pipes and storage tanks in engineering, as opposed to glowing plastic tubes that lead to no where and do nothing. I can understand if the production design isn’t what any indiviual might or might not like – but it’s not a game breaker for most viewers….

273. Picard's Fish - April 27, 2012

#268: this interview?

where he also confirms his character is very strong.

not much, but it’s something.

274. NuFan - April 27, 2012

I don’t think Cumberbatch bulked up two suit sizes that fast. You can tell he’s wearing padding. Especially in the legs.

275. Keachick - rose pinenut - April 27, 2012

“Okay, so I see that the rose-colored glasses are still in full effect when someone’s favorite is involved.”

The very same comment could be said about you, Spock/Uhura Admirer!

Yes, I agree that Zoe Saldana speaking for JJ Abrams and his feelings about the supposed leak is no big deal, however given that she made those comments at an event where I believe Abrams was also present – well, the comments seemed inappropriate. It was not a good look, because it seems to say – either, JJ Abrams has his cast members speak about his being pissed off when he was there to say that for himself and possibly be quizzed as to why or Zoe just went ahead and said stuff anyway. Either way – it sounded bad, (at least from where I am watching)

No, Zach did give any major secrets away by commenting as he did, but he said enough. Ultimately, I doubt it is any big deal at all, just shows a certain lack of discernment on his part at the time. The same applies to Zoe, however, once again, no big deal (except maybe for JJ at the time – who knows?)

It is interesting to note that, as of now, the only two actors we are hearing from are the very professional Chris Pine and Benedict Cumberbatch (and one specific attribute BC quickly noticed and commented on when he first met and worked with Chris Pine). No wearing of rose-coloured glasses on my part there. That is not to say that things won’t change as we draw closer to the movie’s release date.

#274 – I was commenting on what Benedict Cumberbatch said himself.

276. Azrael - April 27, 2012

@275. Total double standard there Kea. There is nothing anywhere that makes Zach and Zoe’s statements about the filming any worse that Pine or Cumberbach’s. All of the actors involved have been highly professional and none of them have given away any major information. The fact that one of those groups has Chris Pine in it seems to be the only difference, one that seems to be enough for you to get angry when people refer to Kirk as what he has always been. But hey don’t take my word for it, here is a quote from Stargate Atlantis.

Rodney “You, behave yourself, she’s my sister and she’s married.”
Sheppard “I was just..”
Rodney “I know what you were doing, Kirk.”

277. Phil - April 27, 2012

Interesting story on Box Office Mojo – apparently the studios now expect their tentpole projects to account for 60% of their box office total from foreign ticket sales. That might explain a lot about why this production is being handled the way it is….

278. somethoughts - April 27, 2012

Whoever the secret shots camera photo guy is, he sure loves Spock.

Star Trek: Spock

279. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - April 27, 2012

@ Keachick #275

“The very same comment could be said about you, Spock/Uhura Admirer!”

That’s absolutely not true at all. I have my favorites, just like everyone else, but it doesn’t make create double standards for them because everything they do is fine but anyone else doing the same thing is out of line.

There is not one time you can find where I have applied different standards to Zach and Zoe than I have to the rest of the cast. You, however, do that all of the time with Chris Pine, and now Cumberbach.

I don’t know which is worse, your double standards and hypocrisy, or when you were more visibly managing Chis Pine’s personal and professional intinerary. :-/

Like I said on the other thread, I’m not surprised at your behavior. Still, I think it’s sad that you do this.

280. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - April 27, 2012

@#276 Azrael

Thank you. I totally agree, and great quote! :-D

281. Closettrekker - April 27, 2012

Starting to get fired up for the sequel!

282. Gorn Born - April 27, 2012

Has anybody seen this story on Aint-It-Cool about Leonard Nimoy apparently telling CNN that he is talking with unspecified parties about being in the new movie? This sounds semi-credible, but may be complete hooey. Aint-It-Cool isn’t always the most reliable source.

283. Keachick - rose pinenut - April 28, 2012

#279 – It comes down to your not finding any fault with how Zachary Quinto dealt with the press over the first leaked photos and, as you like to accuse me of favouritism re Chris Pine, the reality is that you are not seeing the problem with Zach’s handling of the press because you also wear pretty-coloured glasses when it comes Quinto/Spock.

Before the beginning of this year, I had not heard of Benedict Cumberbatch and I have not seen him in his best known work to date “Sherlock”. Personally, I do not find Cumberbatch particularly attractive physically either, so I can only base my impressions of Cumberbatch’s handling of the press by what I have read since January 2012. So you basically implying that I have rose-coloured glasses when it comes to Benedict Cumberbatch is complete nonsense.

The fact is that we have only heard from Chris Pine, Benedict Cumberbatch and Alice Eve since the first leaked photos showing Cumberbatch/Quinto/Saldana. I can’t help but wonder why that might be. I conjecture that JJ Abrams may have more confidence in these three actors being to show a little more care and discernment than some others when it comes to answering questions about the Star Trek sequel being made. Time will tell if I am correct. I suspect that I am.

No double-standard operating here, at least not on my end.

284. Keachick - rose pinenut - April 28, 2012

For the record –

1 – I am not calling either Quinto or Saldana names. I think they just “screwed up” a little, but not that much. Everyone makes mistakes. That time, it was their turn (unfortunately). I have nothing against them as people nor the way they have played their Star Trek characters so far. Neither Cumberbatch or Pine have “screwed up” in respect to handling press re this movie sequel – so far. Hopefully, they won’t.

2 – Chris Pine has made mistakes, imo, when handling press/paparazzi in the past on occasions, but not in relation to the Star Trek movie. I thought that certain actions he made once or twice of a digital nature and caught on camera and published were not in his best interests. He “screwed up” by using the finger form of “screw you”/”f*ck you”. Seeing those pictures do not leave a good impression of him in the mind of the viewer, even if he did have good reason to behave as he did. I wrote as much on the site publishing the photos in question and I stand by my statements.

No, Chris Pine is not perfect but I still like him and will defend him if I see him being unjustly treated. Same goes for anyone else as well – Zachary Quinto and Zoe Saldana have both received some pretty nasty vitriolic comments on some sites and I have written against such profanities and unjust comments.

This is who I am, for better or worse. I am not perfect either, and sometimes I don’t see/hear everything that is happening.

285. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - April 28, 2012

Keachick, Keachick…

“…It comes down to your not finding any fault with how Zachary Quinto dealt with the press over the first leaked photos… “

Okay, stop right there. Um, so where did I actually find fault with how anyone else “dealt with the press” over any of the leaked photos or anything else for that matter. See, Keachick, that’s where the double-standard would apply. I didn’t find fault with Zachary or Zoe, sure, but I also didn’t find fault with anyone else. What you are trying to do is judge me based off of how you’re operating under your double-standards. That’s not going to work.

You want me to find fault with Zachary simply because that’s what you did. It doesn’t work that way… All of the actors have dealt with the press in a similar fashion. Sure, I could have thrown a similar fit about any of Pine’s statement, but I don’t use the double-standard approach. I’ll leave that to you.

It is convenient that your virtuousness in fairness can be seen “on some sites,” but this one? Not so much… I’m just tired of you always wanting to have it both ways.

Anyway, have a nice day, Keachick.


286. Keachick - rose pinenut - April 28, 2012

You are nuts!

287. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - April 29, 2012

Coming from you, that’s actually a vote of confidence in the other direction and I take it as a compliment…

Anyway, I just replied on the other thread about just giving you your space to, ah, be yourself, and we’ll see how that goes.

Good day.

288. Mart - April 29, 2012

Well despite some of the more negative comments I have never felt let down by any of the Star Trek movies or spin off series. I grew up with the original Star Trek series and while it is quite strange to see how low tech it seems now we didn’t know any better and it was great for me as a kid. I guess the weakest for me was Deep Space Nine which suffered a bit with it’s political story base (a little like Babylon 5) but it was still entertaining.

I loved the Star Trek remake and thought the choice of actors perfect in their roles. I’m getting very excited to learn that a new movie is due and I’m happy to see new Star Treks in any point of the various time frames! Now we just need a new series with exciting story arcs like Enterprise series 3… Totally stunning and unmissable.

289. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - April 29, 2012

Hello, Mart. It’s interesting that you say that those series are so low tech now, which in some ways to me is true, but in other ways not. Everyt ime I see them use one of those little tablet things on DS9, I think about how the iPad is a relatively new product and how so many things in the various Star Treks were ahead of their time, as they should have been.

The strongest for me was DS9, but I don’t have anything against the ones that aren’t my favorites. I think I could at least enjoy some episodes from any of the shows. The politics of DS9 and Babylon 5 both were some of the stronger elements to me. If I had to pick a weak spot of DS9, then I think it would be the Emissary storyline. I don’t think there was enough follow up for that, but that’s a small gripe compared to how well-made the shwo was.

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