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All 5 Star Trek TV Captains To Appear Together For First Time At Philadelphia Comic Con May 19, 2012

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Last month we reported that all five of Star Trek’s TV captains will gather for the first time ever at Destination Star Trek London in October. However, with the addition of Patrick Stewart to their line-up it turns out that Wizard World Philadelphia Comic Con being held May 31 – June 3rd will get the honor of first collection of five Trek captains. Details below.


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Sir Patrick Stewart To Attend 2012 Wizard World Philadelphia Comic Con; Five ‘Star Trek’ Captains Appearing Together For First Time

Celebrated Actor Joins William Shatner, Avery Brooks, Kate Mulgrew, Scott Bakula At Star-Studded Event Also Featuring Chris Hemsworth, Stan Lee, WWE® Superstar CM Punk™

NEW YORK and PHILADELPHIA, May 19, 2012 – Patrick Stewart, known to millions of fans as “Captain Jean-Luc Picard” on the television series “Star Trek: The Next Generation,” and “Professor Charles Xavier” in the X-Men film series, will attend Wizard World Philadelphia Comic Con, Stewart and Wizard World, Inc. announced today. He joins William Shatner (“Captain Kirk”), Avery Brooks (“Captain Sisko”), Kate Mulgrew (“Captain Janeway”) and Scott Bakula (“Captain Archer”) as captains of their respective series in the iconic franchise who will be special guests at the event, set for Thursday, May 31, through Sunday, June 3 at the Pennsylvania Convention Center. Stewart will appear at the event on Saturday.

The Emmy-nominated actor, who has performed in more than 100 television and film roles, is one of several actors to appear in all three "X-Men" films: X-Men (2000), X2 (2003) and X-Men: The Last Stand (2006). His role as Picard, which started on “Next Generation,” placed him in four Star Trek films: Generations (1994), First Contact (1996), Insurrection (1998) and Nemesis (2002). He also served as the voice of numerous animated characters in movies like Chicken Little and Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius, as well as popular TV shows such as “Family Guy” and “American Dad.”

“Bringing together the five Captains from the iconic ‘Star Trek’ series, capped with the addition of the legendary Sir Patrick Stewart, is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for our fans,” said John Macaluso, Wizard World CEO. “They and other standout guests like Chris Hemsworth, William Shatner and Stan Lee make Wizard World Philadelphia Comic Con a can’t-miss event.”

The five captains, Hemsworth (The Avengers, Thor), Lee (creator, “Spider-Man,” “X-Men”), WWE® Superstar CM Punk™ and Bruce Campbell (Army of Darkness, Evil Dead, “Burn Notice,” Spider-Man)” plus more than 60 other celebrities make this year’s Wizard World Philadelphia Comic Con roster the best and most diverse ever.

VIP tickets are available now for fans who want to secure their opportunity to meet many of the stars at the event, including the five captains as a group. Fans can also visit for links to VIP packages for Hemsworth, Lee, Ryan, WWE® Superstar CM Punk™, Bruce Campbell, Hayden Panettiere, Paul Wesley, James Marsters and group experiences with Boondock Saints, “Buffy: The Vampire Slayer,” and “Spartacus/Legend of the Seeker” actors.

For more on the 2012 Wizard World Philadelphia Comic Con, including hours, celebrities, creators, vendors, programming schedules, evening entertainment, autographs, sponsorship and volunteer information and more, visit .

About Wizard World:
Wizard World produces Comic Cons and pop culture conventions across North America that celebrate graphic novels, comic books, movies, TV shows, gaming, technology, toys and social networking. The events often feature celebrities from movies and TV, artists and writers, and events such as premieres, gaming tournaments, panels, and costume contests.

The full event schedule can be found at


1. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

No Chris Pine? Hmmm… have the new crew been to any conventions yet?

2. Elias Javalis - May 19, 2012

I guess the alternate timeline has not been accepted yet :)

3. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

@ Anthony…. Would you have any info about the Montreal Comic Con later this summer? I can’t find any info on it.

4. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

Never mind Anthony… I did find it!

If anyone is interested in the Montreal Comic Con… September 14 – 16
Trek guests will be Shatner, Wil Wheaton, John DeLancie, Malcolm McDowell & Brent Spiner.

5. Red Dead Ryan - May 19, 2012

The new cast are busy with their careers. “Star Trek” is merely a stepping stone for them. Not the end-all, be-all like it was more the vast majority of the previous Trek stars who don’t have anything else going on for them, with the exception of William Shatner, Patrick Stewart, Colm Meaney and Jeri Ryan. So the new cast don’t want to become too attached to something that could very well pigeonhole, typecast, or even stereotype them to the point where studios identify them as being too involved with Trek and therefore are blinded to their talents and work outside of Trek.

And with J.J Abrams’ code of secrecy, it doesn’t make any sense for any of the new cast to visit the convention. What are they going to talk about if they can’t discuss the sequel?

6. Browncoat1984 - May 19, 2012

“in all three X-men movies” Uh, hasn’t there been FIVE X-men films? And he was in FOUR of them not THREE – he had a cameo in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

7. Neumann - May 19, 2012

I feel like I keep hearing about the five captains appearing together “for the first time” at least once a year.

8. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - May 19, 2012

What would be really Cool. Is to see all of them on Screen Together in a Star Trek Movie as Captian’s.

9. Son of Sarek - May 19, 2012

Live in Philadelphia, VIP tickets purchased and ready for this historic event!

10. MJ - May 19, 2012

To me, this shouldn’t count, as there are 6 Trek Captain actors. Without Pine, no convention should be able to make the claim they have all the Captains.

Sorry Philly guys and Krauts, but I’m not recognizing your conventions as having ALL of the Trek Captain actors. Get Pine adder to your lineup and then I will take this more seriously.

11. LizardGirl - May 19, 2012

Maybe at some point the new cast will start doing circuits. I agree with RDR (5). I honestly don’t see how they’ll do it. With all the secrecy, just about every question asked would be confidencial info. That’s probably a good reason behind the new cast not doing anything. I do hope that we hear some news this summer (but how much, idk).

Haven’t even seen recent interviews with the cast, director, writers, etc. unless it’s about some other project. Meanwhile, Benedict, I think, probably has the worst of it–with the prying questions and obvious references to his Star Trek appearance. Probably because he’s new and they think they can get something out of him.

12. Ahmed - May 19, 2012

Well, Chris Pine was in just one movie, I don’t see a problem in not including him or the new cast in these conventions.

13. LizardGirl - May 19, 2012

I didn’t really notice this until after I posted, but Chris Hemsworth has been invited. I thought maybe they were trying to keep the new franchise away from the older ones. I guess because he was in ’09 but not this new one, they deemed it safe to invite him.

They should do one for the commanders next: Leonard Nimoy, Jonathan Frakes, Nana Visitor (oh and why not bring Rene and Armin along too!), Robert Beltran, and of course Zachary Quinto.

14. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

10. MJ

If you want to look at it that way… Spock and Scotty were Captains, so was Sulu. Don’t forget Captain Pike too! What about Harriman? Or does that not count as we only saw him briefly in Generations?

15. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

13. LizardGirl

Chris Hemsworth was probably invited because of The Avengers, Thor and the upcoming Thor 2. But I would guess he will be fielding questions about playing the Father of a legend!

16. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

10. MJ

My mistake… it does read: All 5 TV Trek Captains. Chris Pine counts as a movie Captain. So do all the others I mentioned except for Scotty, he was Captain in the TNG episode “Relics.” :) Oh, and of course, Pike.

17. Anthony Pascale - May 19, 2012

I think its pretty cool that the five TV captains are doing events together this year, but I guess it is yet another opportunity to nitpick. Its a trek site I guess.

18. Ahmed - May 19, 2012

@17. Anthony Pascale

lol, very true, it seem that we love to nitpick a lot around here.

I think it is great to have all of them in one place, it is such a rare opportunity that no one should miss it if they can.

19. AJ - May 19, 2012

I’d have to go with the SIX captains nitpick, as Shatner essentially welcomed Pine to the club in his interview film.

I miss Captain Jellico. Now, there was a likeable guy. It was Ronny Cox doing his a**hole hat-trick of Dick Jones, Cohaagen and the good Captain, all as the same character.

20. VZX - May 19, 2012

All five captains in the ring at once: who wins?

21. VZX - May 19, 2012

Anyway, I might try to go to this con. It’s like a half-hour from my house, and I never been to a con before. So, I might try to make it.

22. Martok - May 19, 2012

Five Captains… and George Kirk. :D

23. Darren - May 19, 2012

The claim is for all 5 TV captains together, Pine was in the movie, not TV

24. Keachick - rose pinenut - May 19, 2012

I think, I hope that (many of) the new cast may appear at a future convention when they are further along with post-production for the sequel and actually have something to show and talk about. Probably not until next year, when JJ Abrams feels it safe to “let them out to play”.

I had read (here in fact) that Chris Pine was not happy about going to conventions because of something that happened to his father some time back. I also read that Tom Hardy (Shinzon) is absolutely terrified with the prospect. Personally, I think it would be so cool if both Chris Pine (FDR) and Tom Hardy (Tuck) could turn up together to a Trek convention. I was going to say “holding each other’s hands” but that could come off as sounding a little *gay* today…:)

Tom Hardy was very good as Shinzon. As I watched him on Nemesis, I remember thinking “Who is that guy? He is good!” If I ever watch Nemesis, it is mostly to see Tom Hardy in his portrayal of Shinzon. He should definitely feel/get welcomed as part of the great Star Trek family of actors.

Not that I will ever make it (save a miracle) to any convention…:(

25. No Khan - May 19, 2012

I bought my tickets weeks ago. This is cool news.

26. No Khan - May 19, 2012

MJ Sorry but there will never be a true all captains convention ever because Jeffery Hunter the First Capt. Pike is deceased.

This will be the first time all alive & retired tv captains will be together.

27. Amish Electrician - May 19, 2012

1300 bucks to get all 5 autographs

28. Amish Electrician - May 19, 2012

Yesterday’s Enterprise Captian was killed..and the 1st officer was promoted to Captian..he is still alive

29. Amish Electrician - May 19, 2012

and i misspelled Captains 2 times

30. MJ - May 19, 2012

@14 “If you want to look at it that way… Spock and Scotty were Captains, so was Sulu. Don’t forget Captain Pike too! What about Harriman? Or does that not count as we only saw him briefly in Generations?”

Ha! Ha! Ha! Trying to be argumentative doesn’t making excluding the primary captains of each Trek incarnation correct and right.

These conventions are only including 5 out of the 6 Captains, so I am not recognizing anything historical about this. Get all six, and then I will call it “historical.”

31. MJ - May 19, 2012

@24. Keachick, aren’t you aware of the Amegeddon Trek/sf conventions that they have annually in New Zealand and Austraila:


Luckily, although I am from a corrupt useless country like the USA, I still look out for my New Zeland friends. :-)

32. MJ - May 19, 2012

@19 “I’d have to go with the SIX captains nitpick, as Shatner essentially welcomed Pine to the club in his interview film.”

Well said. Yea, these conventions aren’t doing anything “historical” my book if one of the Captains is missing.

33. Bob Tompkins - May 19, 2012

Had I known about this, I wouldn’t have gone to the Trek convention in Cherry Hill earlier this month. :(

34. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

30. MJ

They were actually correct. The 5 are all TV Trek Captains… Pine (even though he played Kirk) was not a TV Trek Captain. Therefore, it is historical in the fact that all 5 were TELEVISION Trek Captains. I am sure if Jeffrey Hunter was alive, he would have been included.

35. MJ - May 19, 2012

@34. Sure, but again, that doesn’t make it “historical” or a big deal in my book to warrant all the attention. To be rated a “historical” in my book, you would need all six Captains. I think they are falling back on the “TV” one because Pine would not attend.

Get Pine on board, and I will rate this as “historical.” Without Pine, its just and “almost, but not quite” deal for me.

36. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

35. MJ

If you want “historical”, get ALL the Captains to appear… every single one of them. THAT would be historical! LoL

37. MJ - May 19, 2012

@36. Sorry, but you idea of including all the “bit player” Captains is just your way of trying be argumentative and water down my call for all six Captains. Nice try, but I am not buying it.

38. Magic_Al - May 19, 2012

They’re not really captains. They’re actors. And these five are all the actors who share the experience of playing the lead character in a Star Trek TV series. Including anybody else in this group doesn’t make sense. Chris Pine’s experience does not resemble the others’ and never will.

39. MJ - May 19, 2012

@38. LOL You can’t wish away the fact that one of the six primary Captains is missing from this.

You are entitled to your own opinion of course, but for my part, I don’t consider these conventions as doing anything “historical,” since they only have five out of the six primary Trek Captain-actors attending.

40. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

39. MJ

Have they had all 5 TELEVISION Trek actors on stage together at a convention yet? No? Then, in every definition of the word, it is historic… whether you like it or not.

If they were advertising all the Star Trek Captains… then yes, they should include Pine… but I would also add Spock since he was a Captain in quite a few of the movies. No?

And I am not being argumentative. Just stating a point.

41. Amish Electrician - May 19, 2012

MJ always starts his posts with argumentative..when peeps just post some points..very annoying

42. MJ - May 19, 2012

@40 @41 Again, you guys are welcome to consider having 5/6 of the Captains there as “historical.” I am not. Why does it bother you guys so much that I don’t agree with you? Do you really need my validation here? It seems obvious to me that you desire my validation, but I would encourage you to have a little more faith in your own opinions…you don’t need to force me into agreeing with your point of view…your opinions are still valid, even though I don’t agree with them.

43. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

42. MJ

Like I said… if they were just calling this the 5 Captains of Trek… then I would agree 100% with you. These 5 Captains paved the way for the movies. The TV shows are where it started and that is what is historical about it. ALL the 5 TV Captains… The 5 Captains that helmed the 5 TELEVISION series.

44. MJ - May 19, 2012

@43. I will give you this — at this point in time, it “seems” historical because they have the 5 TV Captains there. But in a year or two, if they can get all six Captains, including Pine to attend a convention — and I predict that this is inevitable save someone dying — then that convention will go down in history as the one that brought all the primary captains together, and the Philly convention this year will barely be a footnote in Trek history.

45. Shilliam Watner (Click Name for Trek Poster) - May 19, 2012

Maybe they mean all five TV captains. Then we can let this Chris Pine thing go. The poor guy may never be recognized by a lot of fans as being legitimate because he didn’t log enough hours as a captain. Unless he plays the role in a TV series in the future, which I highly doubt.

Unfortunately, the Abrams Trek films will always be viewed by some as the bastard stepchild of Star Trek. I don’t feel that way, but you know a lot of fans do.

46. MJ - May 19, 2012

@45 More importantly, how did you set up your name to be clicked to go to that cool starship graphic on that Flickr site?

47. Vultan - May 19, 2012


Bastard or not, it is an offshoot from the original timeline, so it will always be treated more or less as something apart from what came before it. Because [shrugs] that’s the way it was written.

48. William Kirk - May 19, 2012

There are… FIVE captains :-D So they have them all.

49. Keachick - rose pinenut - May 19, 2012

My bad for not clarifying – I meant to say – go to a Star Trek only convention in the US. Yes, my son went to an Armageddon convention one year – very noisy and crowded, but he did see Seth McFarlane.

Hopefully, Chris Pine along with some of the new cast, will attend a well run convention in the near future.

50. Red Dead Ryan - May 19, 2012


51. Shilliam Watner (Click Name for Trek Poster) - May 19, 2012

46. MJ – It’s easy. You just paste the URL into the “url” field under your sign-in name. If you notice, many people’s names do not appear as bold as others, and that indicates their names are also links to a web site. It’s shameless self-promotion, but I figured Trek fans might like the poster.

52. Shilliam Watner (Click Name for Trek Poster) - May 19, 2012

OH, and if you click and hold on the image, you can go to the “original” size, which is about 36″x24″ if I remember correctly.

53. Red Dead Ryan - May 19, 2012

There is nothing historic about this. No one apart from the fans cares about how many of the “captains” are there. No one outside of fandom cares or knows about Mulgrew, Scott Bakula, or Avery Brooks or the characters they played. The mainstream news aren’t covering this.
No historian is recording any of this for any “Museum of Sci-Fi Conventions”.

On the other hand, what would be historic is if every main cast member of the “Star Wars” movies all appeared on the same stage together. Now that would be historic, as that has never happened before, and would definitely get the attention of the mainstream media.

I do believe that the five main captain actors have appeared on the same stage together in the past.

54. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

53. Red Dead Ryan

I believe they were talking about being a historical Trek event…

55. Red Dead Ryan - May 19, 2012


Anthony removed the word “historic” from the paragraph.

So there is now the ultimate proof that this convention isn’t “historic”!

This debate is now over.

56. MJ - May 19, 2012

@53. If Trek 2013 is a big hit, and if Pine is willing to participate in a convention with all the other captains, then I do see that getting some love by the national media and becoming historic. However, for this years conventions with the five TV captains only, you will see very little if any national media coverage, and the local media coverage will invariably focus on some fat people wearing Klingon Costumes and a fat chick or two painted green.

57. MJ - May 19, 2012

@55. Good move, Anthony! Case closed, Montreal Paul.

58. Red Dead Ryan - May 19, 2012


Even if Pine goes to a convention with the other captains after the sequel comes out, I still don’t think it will be truly historic. It would only be historic in Trek terms only.

The only time Trek conventions make any sort of mainstream “history” or news is when Shatner told all the fans to “get a life” and the times when fat people wearing tight costumes are greeted by fat chicks painted green or wearing (much too) short skirts.

Trek conventions are seen as a joke by most mainstream outlets. Maybe that is also why the new cast won’t go to them. It could end up harming their careers. Not sure Pine wants to share the room with fatsos wearing sweaty, food-stained plastic/leather tights.

59. MJ - May 19, 2012

@58. But is at least would have a chance to be historic, whereas I think we can agree that the TV-only Captains appearance does not have a much of a chance at all in becoming historic.

You may be right about Pine through. However, if the money were right and it was truly an international level convention, he might consider it.

60. Red Dead Ryan - May 19, 2012


Chris Pine, if he does become a Hollywood superstar, could very well help Trek conventions overcome the “fat nerd bitchfest” problems they have experienced ever since the seventies. Only if he becomes as big an A-lister as Matt Damon, or Robert Downey Jr. are now.

61. Montreal_Paul - May 19, 2012

Red Dead Ryan & MJ ….

Doesn’t sound like the debate is over or the case closed. You two are still going on about it.

See the words “TV Captains”? Yes? No?

Historic = not happened before that all the TV Captains have been on stage before.

If Pine does a convention and joins the 5 TV Captains… then that, too, will be historic.

Sheesh. Semantics.

62. Red Dead Ryan - May 19, 2012


No, its not historic. Anthony deleted the word from the article because he knew the word was out of place. The convention has nothing to do with history, Trek or otherwise.

It’s over. Case closed.

63. Shilliam Watner (Click Name for Trek Poster) - May 20, 2012

Everything that happens in the past is history. Even a fly taking a crap. But the term historical or historic is subjective. to SOME people this IS historic. It is a word that has a lot of play to it. It isn’t historic to me, but I won’t argue with those who think otherwise. I’ll save my fight for more important things.

64. MJ - May 20, 2012

@62 “No, its not historic. Anthony deleted the word from the article because he knew the word was out of place. The convention has nothing to do with history, Trek or otherwise. It’s over. Case closed.”

Yes, we have empirical confirmation from the website itself here with this deletion. Case closed!

@63 “Everything that happens in the past is history.”

Yea, but everything is not “historic.” Different words, different meaning.

65. LizardGirl - May 20, 2012

Wow, this thread blew up while I was away.

66. Windu - May 20, 2012

@Red Dead Ryan
Quinto, Urban, Cho, and Greenwood all did convention after Star Trek.

I hope Creation will have all the tv main casts for the 50th, plus promo appearance by the movie cast

67. Anthony Pascale - May 20, 2012

boy this thread is really digging down a rabbit hole. For the record I didn’t remove the word historic. But this is a first, and that is noted. It is a first like the TNG stage reunion a couple of weeks ago was a first. Both are cool events.

Sure it would be nice to get the new movie stars at more cons. But that doesnt take away from seeing all 5 tv captains. Its like complaining that Dwight Schultz or Diana Muldaur wasn’t at the TNG reunion.

but trekkies will be trekkies so who am I to say what you get worked up over?

68. Christopher - May 20, 2012

I will be at this con since I live close by, but i have to say about the 5 captains being there all at once-who cares. Their Q&A panel is only 45 minutes long, so you not going to see them much at all, if your lucky enough to be able to get into the theater they are in. Plus the odds of getting all their autographs without purchasing a massively expensive VIP ticket in advance is slim to none. Outside of the VIP ticket they don’t presell autographs meaning your not guaranteed anything unlike at a Creation event (whom I also hate, but at least your guaranteed your autograph) You’ll be waiting for hours just for one autograph and by the time you get it, the other actors might be done signing for the day.

69. Montreal_Paul - May 20, 2012

Red Dead Ryan & MJ

That is only your opinion. Good Lord, look the word up in the dictionary.

70. VZX - May 20, 2012

Red Dead Ryan: All the casts (at the time) DID appear once together on stage at the Star Trek 30th anniversary TV special. Since it was 1996, ST: Enterprise did not exist yet.

But, all seven TOS were alive back then and it was cool seeing the entire main cast of TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY at same time.

71. VZX - May 20, 2012

68: Christopher: so, should I even bother going to this con? I never been to one, but if you think that I might not even see the 5 captains panel I don’t know if I want to go.

What do you think the chances of seeing the Stan Lee panel? I’d be more excited to see Stan Lee than any Trek actor.

72. Christopher - May 20, 2012

71: VZX: I wouldn’t say not go. I guess it all depends on your situation. If you aren’t close I don’t think I would bother. The VIP ticket holders get first dibs on the seats for the Q&A Panel. This is a huge convention with thousands of people attending and Saturday is the biggest day, and the 5 captain panel is a major event that day. If your planning on trying to get other people’s autographs; waiting in their line could prohibit you from finding a spot in the main theater for the Captains Panel. Stan Lee is another Panel that I expect to be filled with wall to wall people. I would say just set your expectations low, $50 is a lot of money for admission and if you don’t get what you came for your obviously going to be disappointed. I’m going strictly to get Shatner to sign my Generations poster and I’ve already told my wife if I walk away without the signature I’m going to be in a shit mood the rest of the day. I’ve had multiple chances to get him to sign something and it wasn’t until I got the Generations poster and Stewart signed it that I wanted Shatner’s. The dude’s in his 80’s so my chances are shrinking.

My problem with it is they advertise the 5 captains as something great, but unless you shell out $1300 ( a mortgage payment for God’s sake) there is slim to none chance you will be getting all or even few of their autographs. And their panel is a measly 45 minutes. 45 minutes for 5 actors at the same time!? That’s incredibly short. At Creation conventions they go on stage for at least an hour. For the panel I would just say line up super early.

Additionaly the only Captain that is rare in the Philly area is Bakula. This is the first I’ve seen him at a con in the tri-state area. Mulgrew, Brooks, Stewart and Shatner have been around frequently over the years. Hell, Brooks lives in Jersey. Good Luck!!

73. Red Dead Ryan - May 20, 2012


The word “historic” means something that is really important in the annals of history. An ant’s feces might be part of history, but only in the fact that it existed for a brief time. Otherwise, it is unremarkable. And unmemorable. Who outside of the Trekkies who attend this convention are going to remember or care that all five tv captains shared the same stage? The number of Trekkies attending are a tiny group. Compare that to the number who aren’t going and it is insignificant. Compare it to the overall population, and this convention becomes even less significant. This convention is only memorable for those attending. It’s not historic even in the entertainment industry.

This isn’t like WW2, JFK’s assasination, or 9/11, where the world was changed in profound ways forever. Those events are historic because of the impact they made on everyone’s lives. The repercussions continue to be felt even today.

MJ and I presented the facts. They cannot be disputed. Game over, case closed. Finished, done, fini.

74. nx01 - May 20, 2012

45 Dollars General Admission.
25 Dollars to sit in the 45 min-ate event with the captains.
70 dollars plus taxes and administrative fees.

I am a Wizard World Philadelphia vet and this is the first time I have ever been to an event where they are charging an astronomical general admission.

This is also the first time I have ever been to a convention where they are charging for several panels including this one.

Just so you all know when I went last year it was so poorly organized that VIPs did not get in early as advertised.
Every year they treat me a little worse.

The convention is also handled by inexperienced volunteers, which was another of my problems. I was willing to deal for a 30 dollar general admission fee, I am not going to go and get treated badly again for 45 dollars plus administration fees.

Parking is also 25 dollars. If you go take public transportation.
That said it is still awesome that all five captains are going to be in Philadelphia first.

75. Vultan - May 20, 2012

I believe “historic” is being used as a bit of hyperbole. No, the event won’t be listed in school history books decades from now, but it’s usage here is appropriate for Trekkies (a fan club that certainly appreciates exaggeration) who are interested in seeing all the captains together.

Maybe “special” would’ve been a more accurate word to use, but that wouldn’t have quite fit the grandiosity of Star Trek, would it?

76. Vultan - May 20, 2012

Correction: “all the TV captains together.”

77. Red Dead Ryan - May 20, 2012


Even under that context, it isn’t truly historic. Because only a handful of fans in comparison to the overall Trekkie population will witness this event. Most Trekkies just won’t care that much. And as Christopher said above, the prices to the convention are outrageous. The exhorbitant prices will be remembered far more than who was on stage.

78. Windu - May 20, 2012

@VZX minus Nimoy & Stewart

79. Vultan - May 20, 2012


It doesn’t matter if it’s “truly historic” or not, or to whom it may be historic. It’s advertising/pop journalism speak. Exaggeration. Believe me, I’ve worked in that field. There’s always some overblown statement in there to get your target audience excited. Doesn’t matter if it’s a lie or not. Frosted Flakes is a tasty cereal, but has it ever honestly made you shout: “They’re-re-re Great!”? No, of course not. They’re just… sweet and crunchy.

Cary Grant said it best in “North by Northwest”:

“Ah, Maggie, in the world of advertising, there’s no such thing as a lie. There’s only the expedient exaggeration. You ought to know that.”

80. Montreal_Paul - May 20, 2012

79. Vultan

Don’t bother trying to explain it to him. He thinks he is always right and always has to have the last word on the subject. ;) Semantics.

81. Red Dead Ryan - May 20, 2012


Nice try pal. :-) Vultan was agreeing with me, while pointing out the word “historical” was mere exagerration.

82. Red Dead Ryan - May 20, 2012



83. Vultan - May 20, 2012

Well, guys, I wasn’t really trying to pick either side in the debate. Just wanted to point out this sort of exaggeration is commonplace. That’s all. You can pick at it if you want, but for a show that’s been “boldly” splitting infinitives for nearly 50 years, we probably shouldn’t get too hung up on precise, correct English. ;)

Now, let’s get on to more important debates, like the size of nacelles and the scientific accuracy of red matter and black holes. :D

84. AJ - May 20, 2012

It would be fun to see Hemsworth walk onto the ‘5 Captains’ piece for a well-deserved cameo.

85. MJ - May 20, 2012

You guys can keep belaboring the issue, but this topic was put to bed when changed the article to remove “historic” was the article. Again, case closed. Continue to bitch all you want, but: Case Closed !!!

86. Montreal_Paul - May 20, 2012

85. MJ

Ummm… you are repeating Dead Head Ryan. No need for both of you to state the same thing. Unless you guys are vying for who gets the last word in on the subject! ;) In the immortal words (can I say that?) of Bob Orci… I keeed, I keeed!

87. MJ - May 20, 2012

@86. You just don’t it, dude: Case Closed!

88. MJ - May 20, 2012

argh. “just don’t get it,…”

89. Vultan - May 20, 2012

The hinges on that case sure are squeaky. :D

90. MJ - May 20, 2012

@89. Take it up with ;-)

91. Montreal_Paul - May 20, 2012

87. MJ

Buddy… you already said that… now you are repeating yourself.

92. Anthony Pascale - May 20, 2012


article never used the word “historic” it uses the phrase “for the first time ever”. The only change (which was made moments after article went up) was to change “All Five Captains” to “All Five TV Captains” as I knew the nitpickers would be out in force again, and that is the phrase used for the London article. Do not drag TM into this ludicrous debate.

93. VZX - May 20, 2012

72: Thanks, Christopher. I have no desire to get an autograph, so maybe this con is not for me. I do live right outside Philly, so the travel wouldn’t be a problem. Also, spending the $100 (me and my son) and then $20 on parking would be too much. Bummer, looks cool though.

94. Red Dead Ryan - May 20, 2012

Pretty sure I saw the word “historic” in the article yesterday…..

Just sayin’.


Buddy… you already said that… now you are repeating yourself.

95. Keachick - rose pinenut - May 20, 2012

#58 – “Not sure Pine wants to share the room with fatsos wearing sweaty, food-stained plastic/leather tights.”

Oh gee, is that how it really is sometimes? Oh dear….

Of course, if Chris Pine did go and encounter such “fatsos” (presumably the majority of them female, although not all), he could become all the more appreciative of who he had to go back, especially if she was as pretty as Dominique Piek…:). Then he might also discover that within a chubby figure or two may be a genuinely nice person. If you think about it, what has Chris got to lose?

96. Shilliam Watner (Click Name for Trek Poster) - May 20, 2012

64. MJ – You made exactly the same point I did, so I don’t know why you’re just paraphrasing it back to me as if I was saying something different. I simply elaborated a bit more. Perhaps you didn’t read my post closely enough?

Of course, it’s ludicrous that we’re even arguing this. To mince words in such a way makes it seem like it is more about confrontation. I mean, really, we’re arguing over the interpretation of a word here, and for what?

I think people who post articles here should be commended first, unless they do something really egregiously awful. But the haphazard use of the word “historic” has become an issue? Really? Is this how we want to be remembered?

And somehow I’ve become embroiled in such a stupid discussion and I feel ashamed. I apologize to all of you. Surely I have better things to do. I hope to God I do…

97. MJ - May 20, 2012

@96. I am as bored with you with this argument at this point. Admitedly, I am just going through the motions here with this debate…gives me some breaks becasue I am having to work this entire weekend, which really sucks.

98. MJ - May 20, 2012

@95. Actually, Chris Pine does strike me as the kind of guy you could run into at a bar or the mall and have a conversation with. Wheareas I get the impressoin that Quinto might be uptight if approach by “a tanker,” which I am embarassed to say is the term we used to use for the really fat ladies at conventions back when I use to go them (late 70’s to early 90’s).

99. MJ - May 20, 2012

@92. Sorry Anthony. Not to try to provide a lame excuse, but Red Dead Ryan was the one who had said he had seen the word “historic” in your orignal version.

100. Anthony Pascale - May 20, 2012

Just in case I checked original version which is saved by system. No history, historic, etc. As far as I can tell it was a reader comment from Son of Sarek. This is possibly nitpickiest most pointless and baseless debate on site ever. That’s my last word

101. Vultan - May 20, 2012

But come on, Anthony, this debate is surely historic in its own right. Probably the best exchange of ideas since the “Duck Season/Rabbit Season” debates of 1953.


102. Son of Captain Garth - May 20, 2012

@#24 Keachick: Tom Hardy is probably afraid of conventions because people will ask questions like:

1.What the hell were you thinking when you took that role?

2. Did you know you were in trouble when Rick Berman promised your character would be as formidable as Khan?

3. Did you feel like a total douche bag taking the publicity still in that shiny coat, holding that knife like Neal Diamond held his microphone in The Jazz singer?

4. Did you actually see the script before you accepted the part? If yes, were you too drunk to see the plot holes?

5. Were you paid up front or in points? If by points, how did you pay your bills until the next gig?

103. LizardGirl - May 20, 2012

I don’t know why people think Zachary Quinto’s uptight. He’s actually pretty chill. He also seems to have a wicked sense of humor, albeit a little dark. I’d stumbled across Hostage: A Love story on metacafe’s website. Disclaimer for VERY STRONG language though.

If you look him up on IMDb you’ll find his trademarks are: Unique clipped manner of speaking, distinctive eyebrows, often plays cold-hearted or unfeeling characters, often plays villains or troubled anti-heroes.

Sometimes actors get compared to their characters in real life. In example, Zach has distinctive eyebrows just like Spock has distinctive eyebrows. Just remember he’s not actually Spock!

104. MJ - May 21, 2012

@103. I guess my opinion of him is colored by most of the press photos where he is in a suit at a formal event — he looks like he is uncomfortable and uptight.

105. LizardGirl - May 21, 2012

@104 You have a point. He does seem more serious when giving interviews. I can see how he may look aloof, especially when dress to the nines. But then I remember the ST09 gag reel scene between him and Chris Pine. LOL

106. Christopher - May 21, 2012

74. nx01:

Where did you get the info that they are charging for the panels? I can’t find it anywhere on the Wizard site.

107. Christopher - May 21, 2012

The other thing I thought of: If you got a group picture signed by 5 captains, wouldn’t it be pointless once there is a new trek show on tv with a new captain? When that happens you wouldn’t have ALL the captains signatures. Just a thought while killing time at work.

108. JohnScott - May 21, 2012


They initially were charging $25 for the Captains panel, but have since reversed that decision, refunded those who paid for it, and removed all traces of it from the website.

Personally, I’m all for it. Keeps all the lookie-loos out and keeps it to just fans.

109. Red Dead Ryan - May 21, 2012

Well, I guess I was wrong about the article containing the word “historic”. Huh. Well, Son Of Sarek did mention the word, so it did appear on this thread. But that doesn’t matter. At the end of the day, this convention is far from historic. That I am right about. Just like how I am right about a number of things concerning the new Trek sequel. :-)


When I mentioned “fatsos wearing sweaty, food-stained plastic/leather tights”, I was talking about both males and females. A lot of fat nerds like to wear costumes a few sizes too small. :-)

110. Montreal_Paul - May 21, 2012

109. Red Dead Ryan

YOUR opinion only. Take your own advice. “Game over, case closed. Finished, done, fini.”

111. Red Dead Ryan - May 21, 2012


Nope. I might’ve been partially wrong, but I am still correct about the convention not being historic. I only directed my arguemet at the wrong target (TrekMovie) instead of the real one (Son Of Sarek).

Nice try. But thanks for playing!

112. Vultan - May 21, 2012

“Duck Season!”

113. rm10019 - May 21, 2012

Wow a new low for Dead Horse Ryan.

114. Red Dead Ryan - May 21, 2012


In the words of Darth Vader:

“I find your lack of faith disturbing!”

(Force choke)

115. Red Dead Ryan - May 21, 2012



116. bytesaber - May 21, 2012

If you have never seen Avery Brooks, be warned. He’s no longer the same person who played Sisko.

117. Montreal_Paul - May 21, 2012

111. Red Dead Ryan

Like I said… YOUR opinion. Don’t speak for anyone else.

118. Keachick - rose pinenut - May 21, 2012

#102 – Oh dear. That’s more of a reflection of those attending these conventions than it has to do with Tom Hardy. What happened to courtesy and good manners, I wonder? Given that Nemesis was released in 2002 (ten years ago), I do think that anyone attending a convention where a nervous Tom Hardy may be, should accord him the proper respect and courtesy that is due him.

Tom Hardy was new to Hollywood, would have been only about 24 and was making the most of any opportunity to have the experience of being a character in a full length movie. Young (and usually poor) actors do not always have a lot of choice when it comes to the scripts they are asked to play. The reality for me is that he made Shinzon memorable for me in a positive way and had me wonder just who he was. Most of the time I watch various movies, no one necessarily stands out really, even when the film overall might be good. Tom Hardy did. All credit to Tom Hardy.

Go Shinzon! Go Tom!

119. Keachick - rose pinenut - May 21, 2012

#109 – How do you fit into something that is two sizes too small? I agree that the tight fitting outfits may not suit everyone’s figure (including mine), but I am more concerned about the mention of food stains on the costume. So icky, yuk! Could this be case of people needing to ease off the coffee and ketchup?

I would say that it could be a little nerve-wracking for anyone to have strangers fawning all over you. Therein lies the *problem* for people like Chris and Zach – their fans are familiar with them through watching them in their films (television and cinema), following whatever information they can glean about them and yet the actors know nothing about all the strangers before them. I guess it could get kinda scary for them, especially if some of the fans behave in what seems to be an aggressive and/or hysterical manner.

This is something that these professionals need to learn how to handle but I doubt that it would always be the easiest part of their job as actors, who by the very virtue of what they do, will be in the public light, large and small. It is really about give and take on the part of the actors and their fans.

Done my *rave*. Gotta go. Catcha later.

120. Red Dead Ryan - May 21, 2012


I wasn’t speaking for everybody. I was just stating the facts.

121. MJ - May 21, 2012

I want to clarify something here. I do speak for Montreal Paul!

:-) LOL

122. Montreal_Paul - May 21, 2012

121. MJ

You’ll never speak for me.

120. Red Dead Ryan

YOUR facts… not true facts. Now drop it. You are beating a red DEAD horse.

123. MJ - May 21, 2012

@122. Hey “Einstein”, it was a joke. That is why there was a fracking smiley face AND an LOL inserted.

Lighten up, dude. Sheesh!!!

124. Vultan - May 22, 2012

“Rabbit Season!”

125. Red Dead Ryan - May 22, 2012


You’re telling me to drop it? I’ve been ready to move on. It’s you who isn’t dropping it. You’re the one beating the dead horse pal! Good bye!


126. Conor - May 27, 2012

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