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Watch: Cumberbatch Talks ‘Blindingly Brilliant’ Star Trek Sequel + Presents (w/ Doctor Who) At BAFTAs May 28, 2012

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Celebrity,Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback

On Sunday Benedict Cumberbatch was back home in the UK to attend the BAFTAs as a presenter and a nominee. Unfortunately he didn’t go home with a trophy, but he did talk a bit about Star Trek on the red carpet. Watch that video below, plus video of him and Matt Smith (aka The Doctor) presenting an award to Steven Moffat.

 

Cumberbatch Talks Trek at BAFTAs

While on the red carpet at the BAFTAs, Benedict Cumberbatch talked about Star Trek (and Sherlock) with the BBC. He didn’t give any spoilers, but had this to say about the JJ Abrams sequel.

[Star Trek was] amazing. One of the best four months of my life. It was just solid extraordinary fun from beginning to end. JJ Abrams is a god. And the rest of the cast and what we were asked to do in the film is blindingly brilliant. I adore them all. It was a huge roller-coaster adventure and I can’t wait for the world to see the film. I can’t tell you anything about it, even what part I am playing

And regarding the speculation, reports and rumors about him playing Khan in the sequel, he said…

There is all sorts of speculation about all sorts of characters. It would be kind of spoiling it for everyone if I clarified anything. So I am going to leave it with a smile

Watch the video

Cumberbatch was a nominee at the BAFTAs, for Leading Actor in Sherlock. Unfortunately he lost out to Dominic West for ITV’s Appropriate Adult. Cumberbatch did make it to the stage to present a special award to Sherlock creator Steven Moffat. He was joined by Doctor Who himself, Matt Smith.  

And here are some photos from the red carpet:

Thanks to Romangirl for video clip

Comments

1. Vultan - May 28, 2012

Blindingly Brilliant? Wow.

“My eyes! The goggles do nothing!”

2. Khan was Framed! - May 28, 2012

Considering the projects he chooses, for him to call this movie “Blindingly Brilliant” is a very good omen.

3. kmart - May 28, 2012

blindlingly brilliant sounds like more lens flares, which means the camera crew and director should be put in a dungeon till their pupils get to be the size of the enterprise saucer section.

4. Harcourt F. Mudd - May 28, 2012

Son of Khan.

5. Harry Ballz - May 28, 2012

I guess when it comes to which character he’s playing, Cumberbatch khan-t say anything!

6. LizardGirl - May 28, 2012

Such a lovely man and a great dresser too!

7. Aurore - May 28, 2012

Watch: Cumberbatch Talks ‘Blindingly Brilliant’ Star Trek Sequel
___________

….It looks like I’ll need to have “the talk” with Mr. Cumberbatch again…

“Blindingly Brilliant” ?!

No, no, no, no,no,no,no, Benny boy!

“FACE MELTINGLY BRILLIANT” is what you ought to say!!!!!!!!!

:)

8. Jeffrey S. Nelson - May 28, 2012

His is the superior intellect!

9. LizardGirl - May 28, 2012

Andrew Scott is pretty awesome too. Saw a clip of him after this posted one. I would love to see more of him!

Favorite Moriarty Lines:
1. WRONG DOOFUS!!!
2. You can cherish the look of surprise on my face
3. THAT’S WHAT PEOPLE DO!!!
4. I’M SOOO CHANGEABLE!!!
5. You never called…

10. Bill Peters - May 28, 2012

I Assume he must be talking about the plot, the Acting, the Directing and Yes the Lens Flair.

11. njdss4 - May 28, 2012

I guess I’m really pessimistic about the new movie, because Cumberbatch’s praise seems over the top. I’ll try to hold out hope until I see a full trailer.

12. Spacecadet - May 28, 2012

Cumberbatch wouldn´t say “it´s brillant”, just for profit. It is his opinion, I think, not just advertising. I love his Sherlock-characterisation. He would give even Khan (who is not my favourite antagonist) a good power. I think, the movie will be different from anything we assume.

13. Ahmed - May 28, 2012

Great to hear Cumberbatch talk that way about the movie, I’m more relaxed now ;)

Hopefully the trailer will be out at comic con this coming July or at least they will release the synopsis.

14. trekboi88 - May 28, 2012

Cumberbatch is an amazing actor. I cannot wait to see what flavor he brings to Star Trek and whether or not he plays Khan. I’m kind of on the border about the whole Khan thing. Khan is a Sikh, Cumberbatch is a very white Brit. I don’t doubt that he could portray an excellent Khan, but physically, it would be a poor casting choice. I can really see him as Kodos. Maybe the whole Khan thing was done on purpose to cause some controversy and throw us off. Maybe it’s a stunt.

Either way, this is going to be a great movie, no matter who the villain is (I’m still hoping for Kodos).

15. Aurore - May 29, 2012

“…it would be a poor casting choice.”
_________

Maybe.
In my opinion, Mr. Abrams got the casting right, last time.
I can’t imagine him doing otherwise, this time around.

“Maybe the whole Khan thing was done on purpose to cause some controversy and throw us off. Maybe it’s a stunt.”

Yours is the superior intellect….I mean…I concur.

16. Tiberius Subprime - May 29, 2012

I’ll reserve judgement on how good the film is until I see it.

Sometimes when they say good things about a film, and gush about how briliant it is , it can be a good omen. Sure.

Sometimes when they gush about how brilliant a film is, it is because they are trying desperately to sell something that may not be as good as they thought.

We shall see next year.

17. Tiberius Subprime - May 29, 2012

But I am excited. Of course.

18. Bugs Nixon - May 29, 2012

My dream of Doctor Who and Star Trek moving ever closer together is finally happening. Great days.

19. Tarrax - May 29, 2012

With all the effort to keep everything under wraps, it almost saddens me that the Trailers will give it all away before release. Now, if I could only resist watching any of the Trailers…..Hmm. :(

20. Odradek - May 29, 2012

Does this mean that Geordie is in it?

21. Khan is not the easy route - May 29, 2012

Geordie is in it.

22. Planet pandro - May 29, 2012

We’ll all have to remember to flex our vulcan inner-eyelids for this one!

23. Jenna - May 29, 2012

I don’t see any comments on the Simon Pegg article where he says it’s not Khan? Somewhere else?

24. gilberto - May 29, 2012

Looks like Mr. Cumberbatch is regaining his skinny look for a third series (“season,” in American English) of Sherlock Holmes. It’s amazing what those fine actors do to literally change their bodies according to the character they’re playing.

25. belindatheblonde - May 29, 2012

So JJ describes Benedict a genius. And then Benedict says JJ is a god. HHHHNNNNGGGG!!!

26. Jenna - May 29, 2012

Well, okay, just in case people haven’t seen.. I know Simon jokes but he seems quite serious here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/9285164/How-Simon-Pegg-became-a-big-fish.html

—>Pegg is full of praise for Cumberbatch’s baddy, whom he describes as “not just another disgruntled alien. It’s a really interesting… sort of… thing,” he squirms. “Obviously I can’t talk about it.” Given internet rumours that Cumberbatch has been cast as Kirk and Spock nemesis Khan, will this be a very different “wrath of Khan” from the 1982 film of the same name? “It’s not Khan,” replies Pegg, annoyed. “That’s a myth. Everyone’s saying it is, but it’s not.”Is that misinformation from the famously secretive Abrams camp? “No, I think people just want to have a scoop. It annoys me – it’s beyond the point to just ferret around for spoilers all the time to try to be the first to break them,” says Pegg, a fanboy’s fanboy who wrote an autobiography called Nerd Do Well and who seems to have forgotten that part of the thrill of being a comic book/film/sci-fi fan is about getting as many details as possible in advance. “It just spoils the film,” he complains. “It masquerades as interest in the movie but really it’s just nosiness and impatience. You just want to say, ‘Oh f— off! Wait for the film!’”–>

27. Christopher Roberts - May 29, 2012

23. Simon said that “A long time ago… in a galaxy far, far away”.

28. Daoud - May 29, 2012

When Daniel Craig tires of portraying Bond, James Bond….. Cumberbatch in that last picture…. is Bond.
.
I’ve settled on it being “Khan, but not as we knew him, or a relative.” There were 87 or so other sleepers on that ship. What if they weren’t all Khan’s followers, but a worse Khan than Khan Noonien Singh?
.
And it’s getting tiring to state that North Indians are Caucasians speaking Indo-Aryan languages…. South Indians aren’t and speak Dravidian languages….. A Punjabi can be fairly pale and have blue eyes — it’s just rare, not impossible. After all, how many people have said Ben Kingsley is British and looks like he could be Patrick Stewart’s older brother?

29. Jenna - May 29, 2012

27. That second half of the interview (which this quote is from) happened after the movie wrapped wrapped, so can’t be longer than 3 or 4 weeks back….?

30. Jenna - May 29, 2012

27. The article came out Sunday and just came out online this morning.

31. Anthony Thompson - May 29, 2012

Simon Pegg has now said twice that it’s not Khan!

32. Anthony Thompson - May 29, 2012

30. Jenna

He also said that just before filming began (it was covered on this site).

33. Jenna - May 29, 2012

Sorry! Thanks! I liked the “thing” quote though as it’s closer to what some are hoping! : )

34. Navy - May 29, 2012

I don’t believe a word these actors and producers say about each other. They’re all afraid to say anything negative. The one’s that are not, are not working anymore.

35. drumvan - May 29, 2012

“blindingly brilliant” from cumberbatch, “a face melter” from bobby-o, this movie has a lot of hype to live up to. bring it! :)

36. Sebastian S. - May 29, 2012

Not much to go on really (spoiler wise), but it’s nice to hear such unabashed enthusiasm for the role (whatever that role may be; I’m still not 100% convinced it’s Khan, or at least, it’s not Khan-as-we-have-known-him up till now….). ;-)

Cumberbatch is an amazing actor. I’m a huge fan of Sherlock, as well as his 2004 Hawking movie. I also enjoyed his memorable role in “War Horse.” My wife and I also have tickets to see a live showing of his “Frankenstein” (via satellite) at the movies next week (thank you, Fathom Events!).

37. Jenna - May 29, 2012

36. Agreed! Have Hawking on my phone just haven’t watched yet. Seeing Frankenstein twice next week. Thank you indeed Fathom. They reversed an earlier decision not to show it when others were.

38. Rita Dawson - May 29, 2012

Blindly Brilliant! Nice Phrase! Well Written post!

39. rm10019 - May 29, 2012

Looking forward to this movie!

40. CJS - May 29, 2012

This whole, I can’t tell you who my character is thing is getting kind of ridiculous. No one is going to be surprised if it is Khan, because that is the major rumor we’ve heard. And if they’ve come up with some new twist on the Khan character, simply revealing his identity wouldn’t necessarily reveal the twist. At some point a film critic will reveal who Cumberbatch is playing and the whole world will know.

Now if he’s playing another character from the canon the secrecy will only make a difference to the subclass of Star Trek fans who are aware of these characters. Your average movie goer doesn’t know Gary Mitchell or Kodos the Executioner from a hole in the wall. So again the secret is mostly pointless. And if he’s playing a new character entirely, it’s even more pointless.

So the big secret must be in the kind of being Cumberbatch is playing and the kind of being he is pretending to play. Like Orci’s point about the status of the Terminator in Judgement Day. Khan was replaced with an impostor somewhere along the Botany Bay’s journey and is really a shape-shifting alien (Founders?) or an android fashioned into a replica. Or maybe all along Spock has just been seeing dead people, and Cumberbatch is dead for the whole movie.

41. VOODOO - May 29, 2012

Wouldn’t read too much into the “blindingly brilliant” quote…Have you ever heard an actor say his upcoming film sucks? That said he is a
wonderful actor and will shine in whatever role he is playing.

42. DiscoSpock - May 29, 2012

#28 “After all, how many people have said Ben Kingsley is British and looks like he could be Patrick Stewart’s older brother?”

Kingsley IS British, born in North Yorkshire to an English mother. His father was Indian, born in Kenya. So Ben Kingsley is a British man of half-Indian and half-English descent.

43. belindatheblonde - May 29, 2012

Hahaha! I was watching the BBC News interview and I was surprised by this guy yelling “Bendy Dick”. I was like “WTF, how rude?!” Turns out he was just yelling Benedict’s name. Geez. His name! Anyway, lovely news bit.

44. Daoud - May 29, 2012

@42. Exactly my point. People bitching about Cumberbatch as Khan remind me of those who forget Kingsley is Krishna Pandit Bhanji. And go back another generation, and you’ll find you’re wrong: Ben’s mother wasn’t all English. Only *her* mother was. Ben’s maternal grandfather was of Semitic origin.

45. Aurore - May 29, 2012

“It’s not Khan,” replies Pegg, annoyed. “That’s a myth. Everyone’s saying it is, but it’s not.”
__________

“Everyone’s saying it is, but it’ s not.” Promised?

And, who’s “everyone” ? Because, I personally never was convinced it was.

:)

46. Phil - May 29, 2012

TWOK has been described a lot of ways, but blindingly brilliant? Maybe JJ and crew can breathe some life into Gilligans Island….

47. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - May 29, 2012

Title to movie.
Star Trek. Blindigly Good LensFlares!.

Like he said. Can’t wait to see it next year.

48. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - May 29, 2012

I still think that Nimoy is in the next movie. Even if for a brief scene.

49. drumvan - May 29, 2012

have you noticed bill shatner’s half trimmed eye brows in the latest videos? i think bill is playing spock prime in st12 ;)

50. chrisfawkes.com - May 29, 2012

” Given internet rumours that Cumberbatch has been cast as Kirk and Spock nemesis Khan, will this be a very different “wrath of Khan” from the 1982 film of the same name? “It’s not Khan,” replies Pegg, annoyed.

That settles it.

I had strong doubts even when this site confirmed that it was Khan. I know Iron man 2 was the same film as iron man 1 in many ways but i think most of the industry has learnt from that blunder.

Bringing in another peed off alien would have been a huge mistake.

51. VZX - May 29, 2012

I guess Cumby confirmed that there will still be lens flares galore in the sequel.

Bummer. At least I know to NOT see it 3D now.

52. Kevin - May 29, 2012

With what Cumberbatch says about the film being “blindingly brilliant,” we can surmise from this is one of three things:
1. The film is the most horrific bastardization of Trek that will murder the franchise and bathe in its blood and he’s trying to trick us into seeing it so he gets paid.
2. He is speaking the truth as he believes it and the movie will be great (as long as us Trekkies don’t nit-pick too much).
3. He was speaking literally and the lens-flares will permanently blind us.

53. VZX - May 29, 2012

After reading Pegg’s comment: Maybe Cumby is playing a hybrid of Khan or something? Like a clone, but with DNA mixed with an alien? Maybe Klingons? Arne Darvin?

54. Hat Rick - May 29, 2012

The future’s so bright he’s gotta wear shades!

Quick! Get this man some Ray-Bans!

:)

55. Jai - May 29, 2012

Re: #28:

“And it’s getting tiring to state that North Indians are Caucasians speaking Indo-Aryan languages…. South Indians aren’t and speak Dravidian languages….. A Punjabi can be fairly pale and have blue eyes — it’s just rare, not impossible”

My 5c as a guy who’s North Indian :

“Caucasian” has a generally accepted meaning in America, so it may not be an appropriate term in this situation. “Indo-European” and “Indo-Iranian” would be much more accurate descriptions.

Not all North Indians are Indo-European, but it’s true that far more of us have that background compared to South Indians, especially North Indians who look very similar to Ricardo Montalban in Space Seed. It’s particularly common amongst Punjabis and Kashmiris.

But that’s “Indo-European” in the sense of sharing the same ancient ancestry as many southern Europeans. So it’s pretty common for Punjabis to look like Italians, many Greeks etc. Many southern Europeans could actually “pass” for Punjabis too. It’s definitely true that a Punjabi can be fairly pale and have blue eyes, but it’s also about facial features.

I’ve never seen a Punjabi who has anything like the kind of facial features Cumberbatch has.

Any white Hollywood actors who aren’t from southern European backgrounds but still have a distinctly Punjabi look about them ? Yes, Chris Noth and George Clooney.

Could Cumberbatch “pass” for Punjabi ? Not a snowball’s chance in hell. Not even if it was a very cold hell, with icicles all over the place and shivering demons building snowmen that look like Satan ;)

But I still think this whole “Khan” thing is a bait & switch game. Bob Orci mischievously mentioned “misdirection” here a few weeks ago when talking about the Star Trek sequel, so that might be one giant clue right there from Mr Orci himself ;)

56. VZX - May 29, 2012

45.Aurore: I still think it is. And until there is actual proof, I will stick to that thought. BUT: Like I said, Cumby might be some mixture of Khan with something.

57. Aurore - May 29, 2012

45.Aurore: I still think it is. And until there is actual proof, I will stick to that thought.
___________

Fair enough.

I still think it isn’t. And, until there is actual proof, I will stick to that thought.

58. DiscoSpock - May 29, 2012

44. Daoud – May 29, 2012
@42. Exactly my point. People bitching about Cumberbatch as Khan remind me of those who forget Kingsley is Krishna Pandit Bhanji.

***

Yeah, his mom is half English and half German or Russian Jew, more or less, probably–in other words, it’s not clear. But that doesn’t matter: You made a claim, I refuted it, and you came back saying I made your point.

Nope. You complained about people saying he is British. He is British.
Period.

59. CaptRobau - May 29, 2012

I’m getting very excited for this movie. Bring on the trailer.

60. Whalien - May 29, 2012

Well, I’ll be a son of a batch!!! It better be blindingly good!! :-)

61. Whalien - May 29, 2012

I don’t think The Batch is playing Khan…I just don’t…

62. Phil - May 29, 2012

@55. Hey, man you are missing the point. In the 23rd century the Trek universe has technology that can change your DNA, physical features, and probably your sex for that matter. Thanks to the marvels of 23rd century Trek Technobabble, Khan can step into the booth, insert a couple of credits, and step out as George Cloony, Etta James, Snoopy, or a bowl of chili. Race and ethnicity is irrelevant in the Trek future, apparently. Yeah, I’m being a smart ass here….

63. George Zip - May 29, 2012

whatever the case, you know the preview/trailer is going to screw it all up re/surprise(s), so I don’t know what all the fuss is about

64. Dee - lvs moon' surface - May 29, 2012

WOW… Whatever… I want to see these amazing guys together… “blindingly brilliant”…in STAR TREK 2 or something… ;-) :-)

65. CAPT KRUNCH - May 29, 2012

I kinda agree with 15…a stunt to throw us off…there were just too many slipped photos and what not…
my bet is still Gary Mitchell, but who knows???? Alice Eve could play Dr Dehner or it could be Khan and Mc Givers????
Could be Gary 7 and Roberta Lincoln for all I know????????
What’s one more YEAR!!!!

66. NuFan - May 29, 2012

Blindingly face melting!

67. Sebastian S. - May 29, 2012

# 63.

George Zip~
(I LOVE the name; I’m a big time “Airplane!” fan). ;-D

Too true; once the trailer’s out, you pretty much know the beginning, middle and end of the film in most cases. The experience of watching the actual movie is just filling in the skeleton of what you already know….

68. Phil Smith - May 29, 2012

Anyone who describes JJ Abrams as a god is being a bit silly. Hollywood hyperbole at its best.

69. Anthony Thompson - May 29, 2012

41. VOODOO

Yes, I have heard an actor saying his upcoming movie sucks. Marlon Brando. He said in an interview that his upcoming movie ‘The Freshman’ was “trash”.

70. Punkspocker - May 29, 2012

Cumberhunk is blindingly hot (sorry so shallow)

71. Red Dead Ryan - May 29, 2012

#68.

Who has described J.J. Abrams as a god?

That’s just silly.

72. dmduncan - May 29, 2012

“Blindingly brilliant.”

With JJ Abrams directing a Bob Orci,/Kurtzman/Lindelof script, I expected nothing less!

73. Cervantes - May 29, 2012

Cumberbatch lost me at “J.J. Abrams is a god”, but it’s a pity he couldn’t have won an award for his excellent Sherlock.

Dominic West was equally compelling as Fred West the serial killer though, and was a deserving winner nonetheless.

74. dmduncan - May 29, 2012

55: “Could Cumberbatch “pass” for Punjabi ? Not a snowball’s chance in hell. Not even if it was a very cold hell, with icicles all over the place and shivering demons building snowmen that look like Satan ;)”

“But I still think this whole “Khan” thing is a bait & switch game.”

***

First, LOL.

Second, I am thinking Anthony’s source was wrong now. If Pegg was annoyed by the Khan rumor and flatly denied it was true, then that casts doubt on AP’s sources. Which, from the standpoint of Cumberbatch playing Khan, gives me a feeling of relief.

Also, Ryan spiked the ball in the end zone and did a funky victory celebration in front of everybody who said it was not Khan, when AP announced Cumberbatch was confirmed as playing Khan.

So this news at least tentatively allows me to paraphrase Wyatt Earp (Kurt Russell), from the movie Tombstone:

“I’m coming for you Ryan…and HELL is coming with me!”

75. Christopher Roberts - May 29, 2012

I’ve got to admit, Gary Mitchell would have been great casting. If they hadn’t already remade “Where No Man Has Gone Before” in the comic-books.

76. Gary Makin - May 29, 2012

This month, we celebrate three years of increasingly unfunny lens flares comments.

77. Gary Makin - May 29, 2012

“Blinding” is British slang for brilliant.

78. VulcanFilmCritic - May 29, 2012

OMG. A truly nauseating thought has occurred to me. What if Khan has had a brain transplant? Then Cumberbatch really gets to flex his acting chops doing his impression of a Sikh stuck in the body of a Latino stuck in the body of a pasty-skinned Englishman. Sort of a “Spock’s Brain” meets “Space Seed” mash-up. Blindingly brilliant!

What I really want to know is:
WHEN IS CUMBERBATCH GOING TO DO “HAMLET” ON BROADWAY?

79. Red Dead Ryan - May 29, 2012

#74.

I’ll be waiting! Don’t be late! :-)

80. LizardGirl - May 29, 2012

Poo, Frankenstein won’t be showing anywhere in my city! Wish I could see it.
*****
I don’t care who his character is. Never felt strongly either way. If he’s Khan, bring it! If not…whatever. I can understand Simon’s feelings, but he’s been in the loop for how long now? So it’s easy for him to say “wait for the movie”. We know nothing, and won’t know anything for practically a whole year! We’re starving, give us a bone and we’re going to gnaw the crap out of it.

81. CarlG - May 29, 2012

When they bring Trek back to TV (oh yes, I said when), we need to get Steve Moffat to write an episode. This needs to happen.

82. LizardGirl - May 29, 2012

@81 YES!

83. Sebastian S. - May 29, 2012

# 55. Jai

Could Cumberbatch “pass” for Punjabi ? Not a snowball’s chance in hell. Not even if it was a very cold hell, with icicles all over the place and shivering demons building snowmen that look like Satan ;)

But I still think this whole “Khan” thing is a bait & switch game. Bob Orci mischievously mentioned “misdirection” here a few weeks ago when talking about the Star Trek sequel, so that might be one giant clue right there from Mr Orci himself ;)
____________________________

All I can add is ‘well-said’. A nice splash of reason in the face of ridiculousness….

My wife and I talked to an Indian friend of ours about this “Khan thing” over dinner recently and she as much said the same as you did. She’s a huge fan of “Sherlock” (and particularly Cumberbatch) but even she agreed that his casting as a Sikh would be laughed at by most Indians (or even Indian-Americans). She even recently pointed out a dialectal error in “The Avengers” which made me chuckle (her astute observations were worthy of Cumberbatch’s Holmes, we told her). ;-)

I think the earlier “Khan” rumor (directed to this site in particular) was in fact, the ACTUAL rouse; not Simon Pegg’s denial. The Khan rumor just doesn’t add up. Not to mention the Mickey-Rooney-esque whitewash casting (especially in 2012) would be just hideously embarrassing. The reviews would NOT be kind if it were true.

84. Jai - May 30, 2012

Sebastian S, re: #83, DMDuncan, re: #74:

“My wife and I talked to an Indian friend of ours about this “Khan thing” over dinner recently and she as much said the same as you did. She’s a huge fan of “Sherlock” (and particularly Cumberbatch) but even she agreed that his casting as a Sikh would be laughed at by most Indians (or even Indian-Americans).”

It would get a pretty negative reaction from Indians here in Britain too. South Asians are actually the largest “minority” group in this country, and within that group the largest numbers are Punjabi, which also includes most Sikhs.

Most of the rest of the British population would also regard it as very bad casting, apart from undercover racists who think Peter Sellers’ role as an extremely offensive caricature of an Indian in that 60s movie with Sophia Loren was “funny”.

“I am thinking Anthony’s source was wrong now. If Pegg was annoyed by the Khan rumor and flatly denied it was true, then that casts doubt on AP’s sources.”

“I think the earlier “Khan” rumor (directed to this site in particular) was in fact, the ACTUAL rouse; not Simon Pegg’s denial.”

That’s exactly what I think too. I’ve suspected this for a while anyway, and Pegg’s direct denial now confirms it.

85. Sebastian S. - May 30, 2012

# 84

Jai~

Agreed. I like how you think. ;-)

But it seems the “Khan-mongers” don’t want to let this one go. Ugh!
As for me? I’d take an official, flat-out denial from a main cast member over an anonymous source who whispered something in a dark, back alley somewhere (and was NEVER confirmed by Orci or Paramount…).

It’s no ‘shell game’ or tricky word-play; Pegg just said “It’s not Khan.”
Good enough, IMO…. ;-)

86. Azrael - May 30, 2012

Personally I never cared if it was Khan or not, my only gripe has been peoples insistence that only a person with specific “ethnically derived traits” can play Khan. I disagree because it is unrealistic for a product of genetic engineering, and it is insulting to those of us who are multi-ethnic, and whose names come from an area of our background that does not match our apparent physical ethnicity.

Come on people I have met “African Americans” who have oriental names, “Asian Americans” with Scandinavian names, and “Caucasian Americans” with Punjabi names. To pretend that such individuals cannot or do not exist is a really stupid denial of reality, about on par with those who think Paris Hilton has talent (outside of the bedroom).

87. Sebastian S. - May 30, 2012

# 86

I’m ‘mixed ethnicities’ myself; all I’m saying is, if a character was already played with a certain look (Khan) then it’s wise to recast using the previous look as a base model, that’s all. It helps continuity as well as believability….

No one’s (certainly not Jai or myself) is attempting to sound racist or stupid…

88. Hat Rick - May 30, 2012

Races don’t matter in Star Trek, folks. Let’s not forget that.

89. Azrael - May 30, 2012

1. I never used the word racist.
2. Khan has never appeared in the new timeline, he can look however they want him to in my opinion.

I do not want to fight with you Sebastian, I just disagree, and I stand by my opinions. Now lets just put this to bed and move on to more interesting subjects.

90. Sebastian S. - May 30, 2012

89.

Fair enough. I’m not fighting; just disagreeing. ;-)

However, you’re in error on one point; Khan was frozen BEFORE the new timeline diverged from the original, so he should still bear at least a passing resemblance to the previous actor (IMO). Even Simon Pegg had to dye his hair….

But since we know that Cumberbatch is no longer playing him, it’s a moot point now as far as I’m concerned.

91. COMPASSIONATE GOD - May 31, 2012

#68: Phil Smith – May 29, 2012
“Anyone who describes JJ Abrams as a god is being a bit silly. Hollywood hyperbole at its best.”

#71. Red Dead Ryan – May 29, 2012
#68.

“Who has described J.J. Abrams as a god?

That’s just silly.”

Who? Cumberbatch in the quote:

“JJ Abrams is a god.”

Yes, it is silly. Actually, it was over the cliff laughable.

92. captain_neill - June 2, 2012

JJ Abrams is a god? WTF?

93. Tom - June 2, 2012

Will you guys just put Khan to bed, as in dead!!! Man i’m a Startrek fan but someone else said it Star trek fan are the worse fans out there, i think there right. Do people relize how you look to other non trek fans. Like little kids, there laughing at you, making fun of you and your reinforcing what they think about you….Grow the f%^K up!!

94. Azrael - June 3, 2012

@90. The reason I disagree on that specific point is that, to my eye, none of the new cast looks anything like the originals. The closest is Zach Quinto, but even his resemblance to Nimoy is marginal. Pine looks nothing like Shatner, nor does Cho look like Takai. Saldana does not look like Nichols, Yelchin does not look like Koenig, Pegg does not look like Doohan, and Greenberg does not look like Hunter. Since I do not see a resemblance between the actors at present, I would have no problem with other characters who get re-cast looking nothing like the actors who portrayed them originally.

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