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Orci: No Title Yet For Star Trek Sequel + First Teaser ‘Super Soon’ + more from TrekMovie.com Fan Q&A June 3, 2012

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Orci/Kurtzman,Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback

As he does every so often. Star Trek sequel co-writer/producer Roberto Orci dropped by the TrekMovie.com comments section tonight and started answering questions posed by the fans. Orci talked about the first teaser trailer, the title for the film, how he prepped and more. See below for highlights and a full transcript, with possibly some minor spoilers.

 

Orci fan Q&A at TrekMovie.com + talks sequel title, first teaser & more

Star Trek scribe Roberto Orci has spend much of the last couple of months in New Orleans where he is working on his big screen adaptation of Orson Scott Card’s classic sci-fi novel “Ender’s Game.” On Sunday night he found himself on a plane with some time to kill and posted the following message in the thread about the 5 Star Trek captains photo.

boborci: On an airplane with a glass of wine in my hand. Good time to try and trick me into revealing something.

This soon developed into another impromptu Bob Orci/TrekMovie.com fan Q&A session where Bob actually dropped some new information about the 2013 Star Trek sequel.

Here are some highlights from Bob’s chat:

Full transcript (of the questions Orci answered) in standard Q&A format:

Amish Electrician:  Is Tom Hanks in the movie?
boborci: No. And he wont be until he gets his JFK history straight!

Markus: Any thoughts about a Alien/Star Trek crossover? Kirk vs. the Alien Queen? Pretty please :)
boborci: Actually a cool idea.

drapera: How about the new trek film title please sir…?
boborci: We are debating the title as we speak. U still have time to opine!

Ahmed: Good to have you here with us again, are you going to comic con this year & if yes, will we see something regarding Star Trek ?
boborci: I’m actually on a plane headed back home after months in New Orleans. I will find out this week what the consensus is regarding comic-con. I truly have no idea what we might do there.

Millie: Do you have any idea when the first teaser trailer will be released?
boborci: No exact date, but super soon!

Nick Sterling: I have a question for Bob. Given your experience with both movies now, which was more difficult: Working on the first film and having to establish the characters or the sequel?
boborci: Good question. The first movie came to us more effortlessly, but we also had the benefit of low expectations. The sequel was harder to get behind and figure out.

TBB: Bob. Could you tell us who the villain is…or at least who it isn’t…
boborci: Sure. Harry Mudd is not the villain.

VZX: Bob, you think you screwed yourself about the sequel title with just calling the 09 movie just “Star Trek?”
boborci: Hahaha! Maybe!

jesustrek: hey Bob and Leonard Nimoy participates in the Movie ??? say Yes please
boborci: Not drunk enough to answer that. Flight attendant!

Walter Kozlowski: Hey Boborci, do the Klingons have ridges?
boborci
: Yes.
VZX:
Klingon ridges? So that confirms that Klingons are in the film!
boborci: They had ridges in the 09 version as evidenced by their helmets!
boborci: So in our universe, they still have ridges, whether they are in the sequel or not;)

VZX: Bob, did you have any input to the theme park in Spain?
boborci: No, knew nothing about Spain, but I do have a hand in crazy similar thing that will be revealed soon.

follettcraig: Bob, how much time did you spend on the set during shooting?
boborci:  Much less then I would’ve liked. That crew knew what they were doing after already having done 09.

Chief Engineer: Bob does Scotty have more to do in this movie?
boborci: You bet your a$$;)
Chief Engineer: Is that why Simon Pegg always looks so happy?
boborci: Yup.

Steve-o: Bob-If the Star Trek is bound for television after J.J. is finished with it would you have an interest in lending your talents to it’s production or do you think
after these films wrap up for good you will have had enough?
boborci: Can never get enough Trek.

JJ-R: Bob, now the groundwork has been laid for the new universe, is the new film more politically and socially relevant than the first? I know JJ said he wanted to do this way back before the script was written.
boborci: I think it will be more obviously relevant, though I still feel the 09 version was quite relevant with echoes of 9/11 and Bush vs. Obama.

JJ-R: Oh, and how’s that animated series idea coming along. ;)
boborci: Could happen.

Sunfell: Hey, Bob- how many wicked little hints about the movie are already hiding in the comic book series? I’m really enjoying it- the art and writing are top-notch. Loved the Vulcan two-parter.
boborci: More than a few.

VZX: Bob, will the Trek sequel be the “dark” chapter of the trilogy?
boborci
: Difficult to answer in that 09 showed destruction of Vulcan and Spock’s mother, yet not exactly considered dark.
VZX: Good point, but ST09 is the hero’s journey, Joe Campbell-esque, establishing of characters and set-up. Even Star Wars had the death of Obi Wan and Alderaan, but Empire is considered the darker one.
boborci: It certainly could end up as a second chapter, but we like to make sure that you get your money’s worth with each movie. The story must stand alone, in our humble opinion.

rm10019: Any update on a Trek Animated project? Or the PS3 game?
boborci: Will have updates on game asap.

VZX: Bob, how’s the science in the sequel? Do you think it will be as questioned as ST09?
boborci: No, because time travel invites a different level of scrutiny.

JJ-R: Are you just looking to TOS for your world-building, or to the 24th century shows and Enterprise too? There’s obviously no obligation to do so and original stories are the way to go, but the references to Cardassians, Archer, etc, in the first film were fun and heartening. I’d love for the new film to continue tipping its hat to all prior Trek eras, or perhaps do more than that.
boborci: Cant unsee what I have seen of all the shows, but we are mindful of being within the technological means of our world.

Seb: Bob, do u have any ideas for Star Trek 3 ?
boborci: No, so good time to weigh in;)

Blake Powers: Do we get to experience the Enterprise as “home” in this one? Last movie I didn’t really get to bond with the ship like I’d like to..
boborci: Good question. Yeah, you get a great sense of Big E this time. See Damon’s comments about how grand the set is this time.

Spock Grokker: Then tell us, what will happen with Spock and Uhura this time around? Still going strong? Or will Spock feel he needs to help, um, help repopulate the Vulcans?
boborci: Another good question which was debated!

Nony: Is McCoy actually *in* this movie, and is he awesome? Mr. Urban’s been awfully camera-shy and was the only one who never turned up in *any* pap/leaked photos, I’ve been a bit worried.
boborci: Bones LIVES!

rm10019: Did you revisit TOS and watch any again prior to sitting down and fleshing this treatment/script?
boborci: Watched all of TOS again before setting course.
rm10019: Bob, that is impressive really, what did you take away from the shows this time through? Does that include ST II ;)
boborci: Yeah, watched TOS movies, too. I took away a better sense of tone and where our heroes are supposed to be like once they mature out of 09.

Ahmed: In Star Trek (2009), I loved that scene where Captain Pike tell Kirk, “I dare you to do better.”
I hope that we will see similar character moments in the sequel.
boborci: Thank you! Hope you will like!

Blake Powers: bob,
do you watch any of the happenings going on with (spacex, nasa)? Do you ever feel “maybe this could motivate future explorers”? (at least in retrospect, I’m sure your main goal is to make a great product)
boborci: I met Elon Musk who advised me for Ender’s Game!

And soon after that Bob had to wrap things up saying…

boborci: Plane now going into initial descent. Thanks, guys and gals, for keeping me company. Folks on this site are the best, starting with you, Anthony. Never want to disappoint any of you. We’ll chat again soon!

Right back at you Bob. And thanks for dropping by and chatting with the fans.

 

Comments

1. MJ - June 3, 2012

Wonder why they would select New Orleans of all places to film Ender’s Game?

2. Scooter - June 3, 2012

Good stuff! That Bob.

3. Chingatchgook - June 3, 2012

Thanks, I enjoyed reading that!

4. VulcanFilmCritic - June 3, 2012

The best news is that no one can say: No, Leonard Nimoy is not in the film.
So it must be so.
Also good news: possibility of an animated series. Yaaaayyyyy!
And something similar to what’s going on in Spain??? Wow.

What a mother-load of good news.

5. SoonerDave - June 3, 2012

Interesting comments re title decision….think were missing hints from comics, maybe big ones…

6. GG - June 3, 2012

Titles..

“Star Trek Rises”?
“Shatner Rises”?
“ST2″?
Or, just the Starfleet symbol (kinda like Prince.. the movie formerly known as Star Trek)?

Seriously, that’s gotta be like THE hardest part about writing or making a Star Trek movie.. naming it.

7. zillabeast - June 3, 2012

I’ll bet apples to grapes that Paramount pushes for a title that doesn’t have the words Star Trek in it. One could say they tried that and failed with ENT, but then The Dark Knight happened.

8. Phil - June 3, 2012

Finally saw Avengers. Really concerned now that The Re-Wrath of Khan is going to get buried by Iron Man 3…. :-(

9. Brett L. - June 3, 2012

My only advice is avoid a generic one word subtitle. We’ve had our fill of titles like “Generations,” “Insurrection,” or “Nemesis.” Maybe take a cue from the more descriptive TOS movie subtitles…

10. Jake - June 3, 2012

9: Like I said in the previous article, out of the over 700 episodes, there are a number of great titles that would make great movie titles. Possibly in TOS? Would be a nice homage.
Do you have any favorites in particular out of the episode titles?

11. Schnotty - June 3, 2012

Really enjoy reading these. Fun guy, that Bob. :)

12. Forrest Leeson - June 3, 2012

“Even Star Wars had the death of Obi Wan and Alderaan”

Everybody forgets about frying Beru and Owen to blackened skeletons.

Franchise films don’t need titles. People will just say “two for Star Trek” regardless.

13. Seany-Wan - June 3, 2012

@boborci – Will this Trek film break new ground in special effects? Also, can we expect a killer 7.1 surround track? Thanks!

14. Seany-Wan - June 3, 2012

Hey gang, I’m watching the MTV movies awards. JJ is in a skit and there is a shot of a Klingon on a monitor behind him. Is this from the new film?

15. VZX - June 3, 2012

I bet Bob’s gonna get something from JJ about this little chat….

16. dmduncan - June 3, 2012

VZX: Bob, did you have any input to the theme park in Spain?
boborci: No, knew nothing about Spain, but i do have a hand in crazy similar thing that will be revealed soon.

***

Man, I hope that means Bob is involved in an effort to build the Enterprise, ala the Vegas project we recently heard about.

17. dmduncan - June 3, 2012

I totally slept through all that. Damn.

18. NCM - June 3, 2012

8. Phil – June 3, 2012

“Finally saw Avengers. Really concerned now that The Re-Wrath of Khan is going to get buried by Iron Man 3…. :-(”

You’re reminding me of Eeyore.

19. Jamziz - June 3, 2012

He’s a good guy.

20. NCM - June 3, 2012

15. VZX – June 3, 2012

“I bet Bob’s gonna get something from JJ about this little chat….”

I doubt JJ visits TM, let alone the threads. Even so, Bob’s duly cautious about what he reveals. Nice to get some good, non-spoiler details from him, though.

21. rm10019 - June 3, 2012

I am really appreciative that Bob comes here to interact with the folks here who care so much about the Trek universe. I am very intersted in seeing how the Ongoing comics have been ised to drop hints on character pkot and themes. The fact that Dr. Dehner was completely removed from WNMHGB has surely got to mean something?

22. njdss4 - June 3, 2012

“Super soon”, eh? I look forward to seeing a trailer by the end of the week, then! Seriously, though, ComiCon would be a great place to debut a teaser trailer. Just ANYTHING, please!

23. Jerry Modene - June 3, 2012

I read once that the Beru/Owen-blackened-corpses scene was put into Star Wars specifically to give the movie a PG rating; apparently they were afraid the movie might be rated G, which they didn’t want.

Which reminds me… how many of us remember that ST:TMP was originally rated G?

24. windelkin - June 3, 2012

Weren’t movie ratings a new phenomenon in the late 70’s? They kind of didn’t know what the rules were for a while. Some of the PG movies I’ve watched from the late 70’s and early 80’s had nudity and language that should never have been allowed and in the following decade would’ve changed the rating. I wish I was sober enough to give examples, sorry…..

25. NCM - June 3, 2012

@ 21. rm10019 – June 3, 2012

“I am very intersted in seeing how the Ongoing comics have been ised to drop hints on character pkot and themes. The fact that Dr. Dehner was completely removed from WNMHGB has surely got to mean something?”

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I think it just means they didn’t see Dehner’s part as vital enough to consume limited comic space. I doubt she’ll be part of this universe. On the other hand, one comic ended with a trouble in paradise scene between Spock & Uhura, indicating her concern for his post tragedy risk taking. Bob’s comments did indicate that that relationship was under scrutiny, if I’m not mistaken. That’s one of the few unresolved threads they’ve left hanging in Ongoing, so far. I suspect something will come of the Vulcan Vengeance episode, as well.

26. jesustrek - June 3, 2012

Bob Orci thanks for sharing,We’ll chat again soon!

Gracias y hasta Pronto.

27. Danya - June 3, 2012

Since we know the villain is Khan and therefore it’s sort of a “remake” of Star Trek II, I honestly don’t see a problem with calling it “Star Trek 2.” That would be my first choice honestly, “Franchise: Something Something” titles are pretty much unfailingly cheesy sounding in my opinion.

28. VZX - June 3, 2012

20. NCM: I was joking, sorta.

But I wouldn’t be surprised if more of the Trek film-makers come to this site. Bob is just the only one that interacts with the posters here often.

29. Brett L. - June 3, 2012

@10
Yeah, there’s a ton of good ones. Unfortunately, many of the fun TOS titles are probably a little long and impractical for the big screen: “For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky,” “City on the Edge of Forever,” Requiem for Methuselah.”

The bottom line for me is the powers-that-be seem so stodgy these days. Titles all have to be short and serious. “Generations” sounds like a Lifetime T.V. movie and “Insurrection” is flat and abstract, whereas “The Wrath…,” “The Search…,” “The Voyage…” automatically suggests adventure.

30. Red Dead Ryan - June 3, 2012

I like to see some titles like “From Qo’nos With Love” or “You Only Live Long And Prosper Twice”, “Today Is A Good Day To Live And Let Die”, etc.

Not going to happen of course, due to the proximity to the James Bond titles, but something just as clever might be an interesting way to market the next Trek movie. :-)

31. Ahmed - June 3, 2012

From what Bob said, I guess that we will see the teaser sometime this year, maybe during comic con.

As for the title, a short and mysterious one will be better IMO

32. TrueTrekFan - June 3, 2012

I was hoping to hear more about Bones in the sequel. In the original TOS series it was always about Kirk Spock and McCoy, I hope they can bring this great dynamic to the big screen again.

33. DonDonP1 - June 3, 2012

Can’t wait to unveil the new film’s number-free subtitle following the series title.

34. Red Dead Ryan - June 3, 2012

#32.

On the other thread, I think Bob said there would be more McCoy. And I agree about the Kirk-Spock-McCoy dynamic.

35. Blake Powers - June 3, 2012

1. The tax incentives in Louisiana are REALLY good.

36. Baroner - June 3, 2012

Nothing’s cooler than having a guy like Orci chatting with the fans. Imagine that in the 60’s? Or 70’s, 80’s or 90’s for that matter?

BUT WHY NO DISCUSSION ABOUT SHATNER? Please resist answering, “Enough of Shatner. The new cast must stand on their own.” PLEASE. He’s freakin’ Kirk, and he will croak soon. Can’t we get him in one last time??? No true fan, not even one who doesn’t particularly want him in the movie, will regret seeing him again. He deserves that much, too, after the tragic sendoff in that horror show (AKA STG).

37. MJ - June 3, 2012

@35. Ah, thanks!

38. Robert - June 3, 2012

32 I have to agree with you on that. Karl Urban’s McCoy was spot on. Really reminded me of the late, great DeForest Kelley without being a parody. Also, I’ve been re-watching TOS on Netflix lately and have really enjoyed how those three interacted. Such great chemistry between those actors.

39. Stunkill - June 3, 2012

All you guys still insisting that Khan will be in this movie probably didnt listen to their teachers in school very well.

40. Indranee - June 3, 2012

How about Star Trek: Super Soon!! ? :p

Seriously, just name it Star Trek XII and the subtitle and be done with it. Who cares what it’s called anyway?

41. Indranee - June 3, 2012

Btw, Anthony, does someone check your typos before going “to press”? ;)

42. David - June 3, 2012

Boborci

Just one simple question for you: I know you can’t give details about the film away but in the most general terms, will there be much emphasis on space exploration this time or will it mainly be about conflict between Kirk’s crew and the villain?

I would love more of an emphasis on exploration of new worlds as this has never really featured in any of the Trek films. The fact you are filming in Iceland whets my appetite for that kind of thing.

43. MJ - June 3, 2012

@39 “All you guys still insisting that Khan will be in this movie probably didnt listen to their teachers in school very well.”

Dude, sound like you then are just another brick in the wall:

“We don’t need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it’s just another brick in the wall.
All in all you’re just another brick in the wall.”

44. Harry Ballz - June 3, 2012

Bob, just how good is Cumberbatch’s performance in the next movie?

45. Sebastian S. - June 3, 2012

Hmmm. Encouraging comments. Sounds like they really poured their souls into this one. And the ‘super super soon’ for a teaser perked me up. Thanks again, Bob Orci.

Can’t wait to see if they have anything more for Comic Con in San Diego (where I’ll be in a month or so). I will peruse the ST booth with extra care this year. I hope (but I doubt) that I can get into the Hall H presentation if they have a panel there. That hall is notoriously difficult to get into these days unless you wait all night… oh, and thank you ‘Twilighters’ for starting that fine tradition (extra sarcasm sauce, please…). ;-)

Shame about Harry Mudd, too… that was my other guess for Cumberbatch’s role. Hee hee….. ;-D

46. MvRojo - June 3, 2012

I hope there’s a trailer attached to Dark Knigth Rises. That’s the biggest movie left this summer and would be a great way to get as many eyes on it as possible.

47. Sebastian S. - June 3, 2012

# 23. Jerry~
“Which reminds me… how many of us remember that ST:TMP was originally rated G?”

********************

Oh goodness, that takes me back, but I certainly do. LOL!
I remember being a bit irked by that since I was 12 or 13 at the time, and hated the idea of getting all excited to see a “G” movie. “G” movies just weren’t ‘cool’ then, you know….

Thanks for the funny memory, Jerry…. ;-D

48. Ahmed - June 3, 2012

Really appreciate that Bob come from time to time to interact with us here, it make us feel part of the making process.

The only other Hollywood writer/producer who does that is J. Michael Straczynski of Babylon 5 who was interacting with the fans since the days of Usenet and now on his Facebook page.

49. BillyBoy - June 3, 2012

Bob Orci, if you’re reading this, my recommendation is to simply call the film: TO BOLDLY GO. I think it screams “Star Trek” and it’s a nice exciting teaser that can pretty much fit whatever plot you choose for this film.

50. Johnny - June 3, 2012

Here’s a thought:

What if they attach a super-secret teaser trailer to “Prometheus” on Friday? I could totally see that happening, seeing as it’s a semi-prequel to another iconic sci-fi franchise… AND it was written by Damon Lindelof.

51. David Tester, Jr. - June 3, 2012

Anthony,

I know you can’t make a “news” story out of this, but none the wise I choose to do so because I am a plain old member of the public (and you might considering the resulting impact as it hits)…..We just received word Sanctuary has been cancelled in the end of it’s 4th season. Thank God they ended with what could be considered a “series finale”. That being SAID (caps for a reason) The Stargate universe for me and many others was a place to seek refuge once our last hope Enterprise was canceled. WE ALL (caps again for a reason) have differing opinions about our favorite Star Trek shows, but never the less they all happened in the Star Trek Universe. When Enterprise died, that was it, until JJ, Bob and the rest for an INCREDIBLE 09 Movie!…..But it still let us lacking is an TV series in 15 + years, so many of us (Including Me went to Stargate for that). It is a great show, but a TOTALLY different background/timeline (again caps intended). When Universe failed so miserably for whatever reason you choose it did, In MY belief, left us with nothing close short of vampires and werewolf’s ( I love vampires and werewolf’s, just not on Star Trek per se). SO, NOW that we are (caps again intended) again left with a TV world without a 23rd,k 24th, 25th, ect century to look forward to with some of Gene Rodenberry’s vision intact thru visionaries LIKE Bob Orci, what do we do??? (in TV Form)??????

Unfortunately, I feel like it is in the control of the Corp. Exec’s. that want to copy off of guys likes Bob’s works….unless we somehow amount this great (and I would assume numerous campaign sig’s worth, ANTHONY?) to at least ASK (not demand maybe??) a TV series be in the works for us die hard Trekker’s?Trekkies’ etc…….that’s my 2 cents, BUT I would turn it into the greatest Ferengi’s Gem if someone in the TV Network side would listen!

52. Phil - June 3, 2012

For all the chatter about how great a job BC did, something is getting lost here, this is still a movie about Kirk and crew, and we have not heard a word about how Chris Pine did – no one will remember cumberbatch if Pine’s Kirk is still coming across as the frat boy Captain of the high school football team. This movie will live or die on Pines performance…among other things.

53. MJ - June 3, 2012

@52 “… still coming across as the frat boy Captain of the high school football team.”

In the original series, Kirk came across as the genius football captain frat boy type, as did Pine in the new movie. So I am not sure what you are getting at? The character was spot on as an earlier, slightly more troubled, version of the Kirk from TOS. ?????

54. MJ - June 3, 2012

@51. I give you credit for sticking with Stargate as long as you did. The follow-on series just never captured the magic of SGU, and I bailed on Atlantis about halfway through Season 2.

55. Aurore - June 3, 2012

Seb: Bob, do u have any ideas for Star Trek 3 ?
boborci: No, so good time to weigh in;)
________

Many thanks for the chat, Mr. Orci.
I very much enjoyed reading your interaction with the fans. Great stuff.

Here are my suggestions for Star trek 3:

-Make it unique, original, and, “different”.
-Whatever you do, please, do not call it The Search for NewSpock.

56. dmduncan - June 3, 2012

Oh I will definitely weigh in on Star Trek 3. AND 4.

Hi Aurore!

57. MJ - June 3, 2012

Star Trek III —

Based on the mind-meld from Spock prime, Kirk convinces Starfleet to do an early preemptive strike on the Borg homeworld just as the Borg are about to launch their first cube ship. Things go horribly wrong, and we get an action-packed film that also has a moral lesson on whether it is OK to exterminate an entire species even if we know in the future it could be very dangerous to many worlds in the galaxy.

58. Ahmed - June 3, 2012

I just start watching Stargate Atlantis this month & so far, it sound like a fun show.

It is kinda interesting that SG1 lasted 10 seasons, then SGA half of it, just 5 seasons, and then SGU only 2 seasons !!

59. Aurore - June 3, 2012

Hi, baby.
…I meant dmduncan, you figured that out, surely.

:))

60. Phil - June 3, 2012

@57. Does this mean they will swing by the Genesis world and pick up Spocks reamimated body in the opening credits?

61. Aurore - June 3, 2012

Spock Grokker: Then tell us, what will happen with Spock and Uhura this time around? Still going strong? Or will Spock feel he needs to help, um, help repopulate the Vulcans?
boborci: Another good question which was debated.
_______

After the “good question” was debated, what was decided?

62. MJ - June 3, 2012

@60. Hey seriously, if you know 70 years ahead of time that the Borg are eventually going to kill say 10 trillion Federation citizens, then why not try launching a really deep space mission with multiple starships to try to preempt the Borg just as they are about to launch their fleet into space in a remote corner of the galaxy….or make in near the Galactic Core, which we haven’t really seen much of on Trek.

I’m serious, this would be a great Trek movie, include the decisions about exterminating and entire species in the name of “national security” moral message.

Orci and company could do a lot with my idea here I think.

63. Sci-Fiddy - June 3, 2012

how about

Star Trek Nemesis

oh, what? they already made that? … you can use it .. we all want to forget that one

How about Star Trek : Stardust

lulz

64. Phil - June 3, 2012

@53. Shatner played Kirk with a good balance between maturity with the burden of command and one who, shall we say, took full advantage of shore leave. Of course, Shatner’s Kirk backstory had him rise through the ranks, all be it quickly, so you would expect him to have that confidence. Pines Kirk is lacking all that experience, having risen from a cadet about to be dishonorably discharged to Captain in the space of a few days. My point, is that of all the characters from 2009, Pines Kirk is one I’d expect to see the most change in, having grown into his command. If it doesn’t happen, we could end up with Kirk becoming a caricature of his 2009 performance, which would be bad.

65. MJ - June 3, 2012

@64. OK Phil, I see where you are going with this, and agree.

66. Phil - June 3, 2012

@62. Or you could just launch a few red matter probes the Borg’s way, a few well placed black holes should take care of the problem. Take out the Klingons while you are at it, too.

67. MJ - June 3, 2012

@66. LOL. Seriously, I like my idea.

68. David - June 3, 2012

“JJ-R: Bob, now the groundwork has been laid for the new universe, is the new film more politically and socially relevant than the first? I know JJ said he wanted to do this way back before the script was written.
boborci: I think it will be more obviously relevant, though i still feel the 09 version was quite relevant with echoes of 9/11 and Bush vs Obama.”

Let’s see an Afghan or Iraqi character in a positive role, like Chekov cast Russians in a positive light for Americans at the height of the Cold War.

69. Azrael - June 3, 2012

In the Countdown mini series the raw materials processed to make the red matter came from within Romulan space. Since all of Spock Prime’s supply of Red Matter was destroyed with Nero, and the necessary minerals to form it are outside the reach of the Federation, even if they knew how to make it, which they don’t.

70. dmduncan - June 3, 2012

59. Aurore – June 3, 2012

I did! ;-)

71. Azrael - June 3, 2012

Slight edit: “Since all of Spock Prime’s supply of Red Matter was destroyed with Nero, and the necessary minerals to form it are outside the reach of the Federation, they could not make any, even if they knew how to, which they don’t.”

72. MJ - June 3, 2012

Also, adding to my idea, the “early Borg” they find may be more ambiguos than evil…for instance, they may have been forced for some biological reason to integrate with machines….they are not assimilating others in an evil way yet.

73. MJ - June 3, 2012

“ambiguous”

74. boborci - June 3, 2012

68. Did you already forget the Captain of tbe Kelvin?

75. dmduncan - June 3, 2012

Hey I LOVE the Klingons. The Klingons fans are sick of are the TNG ones. They can be so much better than that.

76. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - June 3, 2012

Spock Grokker: Then tell us, what will happen with Spock and Uhura this time around? Still going strong? Or will Spock feel he needs to help, um, help repopulate the Vulcans?
boborci: Another good question which was debated!

Well, who won the debate? Inquiring minds need to know. Really! All I know is that new Spock and Uhura are soul mates, and Spock Prime might be a little on the old side, but I”m sure he’s still tickin’ in the right places. He is more than capable of settling down with the right Vulcan lady and having and being a great father to a multitude of children. They don’t need new Spock for that. That whole issue with Nero wasn’t young Spock’s mistake, so he shouldn’t have to pay for it. That’s all I’m saying.

@#54 MJ

“I give you credit for sticking with Stargate as long as you did. The follow-on series just never captured the magic of SGU, and I bailed on Atlantis about halfway through Season 2.”

SGU had magic? That’s news to me. I’m glad you liked it, but I personally couldn’t get through the 3 part pilot without being offended. This is a Trek board, so I won’t go into detail. I tried to watch a couple of episodes later on, and there was nothing there for me. SG-1 and SGA both had their issues, but at least they both had their charms.

What was the ‘follow-on’ series? They came out with something after SGU? I haven’t watched Syfy in a long time so I don’t know what their programming is like now. I heard Alphas was good, but I don’t know what it’s about and I didn’t ask.

77. MJ - June 3, 2012

I meant SG-1. Sorry for the confusion.

78. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - June 3, 2012

@74

I thought he was Indian.

79. Ahmed - June 3, 2012

Hi Bob

I posted a question about another project of yours on the other thread

“I’m curious about your other project, “Secret Cabinet”. Can you tell us something about it.”

80. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - June 3, 2012

@77

Oh, okay. So you’re saying that SG-1 never captured the magic of SGU or the other way around? From what I’ve seen of the 2, I’m guessing the latter?

81. Vultan - June 3, 2012

I think the best variety of Klingon is not the TOS kind, not the TNG kind, but the one right in the middle: namely Commander Kruge.

And Chang was also good.

82. MJ - June 3, 2012

@78 Huh? Apache maybe, given the darker skin tones, but I thought he was Middle Eastern.

83. MJ - June 3, 2012

@80. Yes, the latter — so actually, I think we are in full agreement. Sorry if I made you write a 10-minute post to me on this given my confusing typo. Whoops! :-)

84. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - June 3, 2012

Well I guess we all see things differently. I’ve come in contact with a lot of Indian people, and he looks just like them. He could also pass for Apache or some other kind of Native American, but to me he looks Indian. Middle Eastern never entered my mind. I wonder what the actor’s real race/ethnicity is, and what group exactly was he supposed to be depicting in the film, not that it matters much? For the short time he was on the screen, he did a great job, and I liked the character. Too bad he didn’t make it. :-(

85. UKTrekkie - June 3, 2012

After reading this I had a little hunch.

Could it be possible that Benedict Cumberbatch is playing Arne Darvin?

Now for those of you who are unfamiliar with Arne Darvin, he was the Klingon spy made to look Human in the episode “The Trouble with Tribbles”.

A lot of indications have been made saying that Klingons will be the main villians for the second movie and I for one think this is essential in the Star Trek Universe. So could Cumberbatch be playing Arne Darvin, bearing in mind that the shots we have seen of him on set appear to show him as Human?

Could he be plotting with the Vulcans for revenge against the Romulans? (Refer to Ongoing Comic series). It would work in the Klingons favour wouldn’t it?

86. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - June 3, 2012

@#83

No worries. :-)

87. MJ - June 3, 2012

@85. But Klingons aren’t immune to the Vulcan nerve pinch.

88. dmduncan - June 3, 2012

81

Chang was great! I love how Plummer played him. And that was my favorite of the old TOS movies.

89. ironhyde - June 3, 2012

I am very passionate about titles. I loved a lot of Star Trek titles and was inspired by more than a few. Star Trek has always been a leader in titles IMHO, so I’m quite happy to see such effort and thought being put into this next movie’s. It is a part of Trek’s legacy.

Some of my fav’s:
Lonely Among Us
Yesterday’s Enterprise
Best of Both Worlds
Where Silence Has Lease
Too Short a Season
Loud as a Whisper
Samaritan Snare
Up The Long Ladder
The Ensigns of Command
Hollow Pursuits
The Most Toys…

wow, and the list goes on. Title after title in TNG and even TOS (Though TOS was a bit more clumsy about it) is like poetry. I want to see more of those. Of the TOS movies, The Undiscovered Country really hit a mark — from Shakespeare, death. But there, in the movie, the future….

Now my hopes are really high. Better make it good, grand jury!

90. MJ - June 3, 2012

I am still partial to Christopher Lloyd as Kruge in Trek III and my favorite Klingon. He was unapologetically Klingon, which no softness whatsoever.

“Put em on screen.”

Loved it!

91. Jack - June 3, 2012

85. I hope not.

92. Vultan - June 3, 2012

#90

“Say the wrong thing, Torg!”

93. Harry Ballz - June 3, 2012

C’mon, Bob, just a hint……….how good is Cumberbatch in the next movie?

94. MJ - June 3, 2012

@89 let’s just hope they don’t go with:

“And the Abrams Shall Lead”

or

“Orci’s Brain”

95. MJ - June 3, 2012

@93. Harry, you might have missed the earlier story about Lindelof saying he is outstanding. Not sure why you would expect anything different from Bob?

96. Legate Damar - June 3, 2012

89-The movies aren’t exactly known for their great titles though. The Wrath of Khan and Search For Spock are both pretty simplistic titles, most of the TNG movies cold have benefitted from titles that were longer than one word, the new movie didn’t really have a title. Final Frontier was a awful movie, but it’s title was actually pretty fitting for the plot, and Undiscovered Country was probably the best movie title, though it would probably have been a better title for Star Trek II as originally planned.

97. boborci - June 3, 2012

93. Let me put it ths way: he’s gonna make us seem like brilliant writers!;)

98. UKTrekkie - June 3, 2012

@87 – What makes you think that the character is immune to a Vulcan nerve pinch?

Is your theory based on one of the leaked set photographs?

Remember, I am only hypothesising…

99. UKTrekkie - June 3, 2012

@97 – Good Morning from the UK Bob. (or evening in your case).

Really appreciate your titbits on here. All the best.

Will you be attending Destination Star Trek London in October?

100. MJ - June 3, 2012

@96 “The Voyage Home” was the best title I thought — it summed up the Trek IV movie on multiple levels. My problem with The Undiscovered Country was exactly for the reason you mention — Star Trek II dealt with Genesis and death, so that would have fit. Using “The Undiscovered Country” on Trek 6 made no sense, other than for Nick Meyer to get one more Shakespeare reference in. So in that sense, it is not a good title for that movie.

101. MJ - June 3, 2012

@87. Yes, based on the leaked practice scene/photos.

102. Eminiar 7 - June 3, 2012

In the chat someone named “JJ-R” said “There’s obviously no obligation to do so and original stories are the way to go, but the references to Cardassians, Archer, etc, in the first film were fun and heartening.”

Where was there a reference to Cardassians in the 2009 movie? I have seen the movie multiple times and have no memory of that reference.

103. UKTrekkie - June 3, 2012

@101 Fascinating! ;-)

104. Azrael - June 3, 2012

@84. The actor who played Captain Robau is named Faran Tahir, he was born in LA to Pakistani and Indian parents, who are noted as being well known in the theater community in those countries. Faran also played the terrorist leader who kidnapped Tony Stark in Iron Man. Captain Robau is named after Bob Orci’s uncle and is stated to have been born in Cuba and raised in the Middle East.

105. Azrael - June 3, 2012

@102. In the bar, when we first see Uhura, she orders a Cardassian drink among the others.

106. UKTrekkie - June 3, 2012

@105 Ahh yes, a Cardassian Sunrise lol

107. Harry Ballz - June 3, 2012

97.

Bob

thanks for the reply.

I am a huge fan of Cumberbatch’s work.

He is one of the very best actors working today.

I am confident that he gives a staggering performance.

108. MJ - June 3, 2012

@103. Given both of our points in the previous posts, I ask you which is more plausible:

(1) You complete conjecture pulled out of your… :-) ?

or

(2) My statement, which at least has some imperfect, but nevertheless, actual photographic evidence?

Occam’s Razor:

“If you have two theories that both explain the observed facts, then you should use the simplest until more evidence comes along”

;-)

109. UKTrekkie - June 4, 2012

@103 Mine of course!

Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

110. ironhyde - June 4, 2012

#101 MJ

I see what you’re getting at. I think what was brilliant about it was that a lot of the titles played on meanings. And The Undiscovered Country, yes it was from Shakespeare, but in Shakespeare it refers to death. And what really got me about it in the movie, was how during the Klingon-Starfleet dinner, the toast was made “to the Undiscovered Country. The Future” and it just brought a whole new thought to those words. Why isn’t the undiscovered country the future? Death, the future — from which no man returns, right? Both of them. Brilliant.

Moreover, great titles create discussion and thought. ;)

111. MJ - June 4, 2012

@104 Sheesh, with all those countries/orgins Faran/Robeau is stating to sound like the old Steve Martin song…”born in Arizona, moved to Babalona, King Tut…Funky Tut.” :-)

What, no Antarctican parents for Robeau? :-)

112. MJ - June 4, 2012

@110. Agreed, my friend!

113. MJ - June 4, 2012

@109. LOL. If we were at a bar, I would buy the next round.

114. UKTrekkie - June 4, 2012

@113 MJ are you going to Destination Star Trek London? As I might hold you to that. LOL

115. Azrael - June 4, 2012

Quick note, looking over the cast listed for the sequel on IMDB (I know, I don’t trust it either), and there is a guy named Ser’Darius Blain, listed as playing a “Soldier”. I think the kid has a good resemblance to Michael Dorn, and given the recent article about Dorn “almost” being in the sequel as a “Soldier”, I was thinking it was possible that Blain is playing a member of the House of Mogh (or the House of Worf, since that was Mogh’s father’s name as well). Given various evidence that Klingons will be in the movie, having an appearance by a member of Worf’s family would IMO be a nice touch, as long as he lives…

116. Neumann - June 4, 2012

My thoughts:

New Orleans for Ender’s Game– to show off the destruction from the last Bugger attack, which almost wiped us out.

Title for next movie– Trek2.

What Scotty gets to do in the next movie– any woman he wants.

117. MJ - June 4, 2012

@114. Wish I could go!

118. Cardassian Lightbulb - June 4, 2012

Great read although someone could of asked about engineering! lol

119. danielcraigsmywookiebitchnow - June 4, 2012

I suspect that they had hoped to launch the first teaser on GI Joe 2, but since thats been pushed back and the only movies paramount has this summer now, are Katy Perry 3D and Dream Works Madagascar 3D. It will probably be on Sony’s Total Recall or perhaps WB’s Dark Knight Rises.

120. Aurore - June 4, 2012

97. boborci – June 3, 2012
93. Let me put it ths way: he’s gonna make us seem like brilliant writers!;)
_________

Busted!

He’s one of the major reasons behind the evolving-on-a-daily-basis-script referred to, a few weeks ago.

:)

After Mr. Cumberbatch blinded you with his brilliance, some changes HAD to be made. For instance, his character was supposed to disappear at the end of the story.
Now, his fate remains the same, however, it will be done in such way that we’ll have little certainty (as to his demise)…

By the way, what do you intend to wear at the Oscars?
Tie? Bow tie?

121. Elias Javalis - June 4, 2012

Bob, can we expect cool dialogue from the past, like, the “i have been and always shall be your friend” phrase ?

Long shot question, but what the heck!

122. Thomas - June 4, 2012

Speaking of the old movie ratings system, the other day I was watching the 1968 movie Head, starring the Monkees. I happened to notice that the movie was rated G. This was rather surprising to me since on no less than three occasions, the movie features footage of the execution of Vietcong officer Nguyen Van Lem by South Vietnam’s national police chief Nguyen Ngoc Loan, most famously depicted by this photograph:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nguyen.jpg

123. Keachick - rose pinenut - June 4, 2012

@Bob Orci –
I realise that Benedict Cumberbatch is the “man of the moment” but will the other actors like Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Karl Urban et al and the other guest actors also make you seem like brilliant writers?

While others are wondering about the Spock/Uhura relationship, I am more concerned that the young James Kirk gets some good loving. Is this possible/probable in the sequel?

Re Ideas for third movie – Depending on what happens in the sequel, hopefully the Enterprise may yet discover Menosia by the third movie. This small group of planets on the edge of a “mighty ocean” might stand in contrast to everything else, then again audiences might not like Menosia and the nulis much…

BTW – Re “Cucumber-patch” – TVNZ are being very kind to me at the moment, because after screening the second season of Sherlock (which was great), they have gone back to the beginning and repeating the first season (which I missed) – same night, same time…:))

124. Harcourt F. Mudd - June 4, 2012

@Keachick –

Fear not, as the title of the movie is

STAR TREK: MOON LOVERS OF EARTH

A lovely title, which really captures the heart of all these onscreen romantic shenanigans. Oh yes, Spock gets it on with Uhura and Scotty… well, let’s just say he falls in love with a transformer, called Roger the Dodger. As for Kirk, he finds his reflection in the mirror, and gets married to it on the planet of Cymbal.

125. Aurore - June 4, 2012

Damon Lindelof had very interesting things to say about the cast, in an interview he gave , of late.

Amongst other things, he stated that Miss Eve was “awesome”.
I liked that.

I guess we will have the “character moments” you “all” promised, a while back.

:)

126. KIrk, James T. - June 4, 2012

Should just call it “Star Trek” again, it’s been long enough for them to call it that and since it’s a continuing mission, does it really need a sub-title – I know episodes were called different things but it was all under the banner of Star Trek

If it needed to be anything I’d say “STAR TREK: CONTINUING MISSIONS”

127. CaptRobau - June 4, 2012

What is the animated series they were talking about? Would it be set in the JJ-verse (we need to have a better name for it, like the iconic Mirror Universe)?

I think ST2 (we can call it that, everyone refers to the old ST2 as TWOK anyway) should have 3-4 word title.

The Wrath of Khan
The Undiscovered Country
The Phantom Menace
The Empire Strikes Back

These are all iconic titles because there’s a certain rhythm to them. ST2 should do something like this as well.
1 word titles should be forbidden.

On a side note, after the third movie can you guys at Paramount come up with a name for Star Trek/ST09 that more easily differentiates it from the others? You can say a lot about George Lucas, but renaming Star Wars to A New Hope was a good move.

128. VulcanFilmCritic - June 4, 2012

I was thinking how can we possibly suggest a title when we have no idea what the plot is? The usual naming strategy in the TOS universe was to pick some fragment of a saying or Shakespearean quote or something that presumably related to the plot.

There have been movies with enigmatic titles before. I was thinking of that trio of French movies from the 1990’s, the “Three Colors” series. “Three Colors: Blue” “Three Colors: Red” and “Three Colors”White.”

Why not name the Star Trek films after a predominant color that appears in the film. ST09 would have been “ST: Red” because of the red matter used to create black holes.

The other colors might be the other colors of the uniforms. “Star Trek: Gold” and “Star Trek: Blue,” or these color word might just appear somewhere in the titles.

Or heraldic terms might be used for colors like “on a field sable [black] the letter A, gules [red]” from “The Scarlet Letter.” Something like “Star Trek: The Sable Sky”

129. Aurore - June 4, 2012

It is probably worth noting that the Star Trek sequel will be out before we know it, i.e., before May 17th,2013.

Roberto Orci said as much…He most certainly didn’t…not exactly, anyway.

But, facts should never get in the way of a rumour I want to spread.

130. Gary Makin - June 4, 2012

How about this title: Star Trek: Strange New World Order.

Bob will get this one.

131. Aurore - June 4, 2012

Given Simon Pegg’s recent comments on Mr. Cumberbatch’s performance:

T.R.E.K. : The Thing ( From Another World )

132. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - June 4, 2012

@#104 Azrael

“The actor who played Captain Robau is named Faran Tahir, he was born in LA to Pakistani and Indian parents, who are noted as being well known in the theater community in those countries. Faran also played the terrorist leader who kidnapped Tony Stark in Iron Man. Captain Robau is named after Bob Orci’s uncle and is stated to have been born in Cuba and raised in the Middle East.”

Thank you. It’s nice to know that the actor is what he appears to be and that I’m not just looking at him funny or something. I appreciate the background info on both Mr. Tahir and his character in the film. Nice. :-)

133. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - June 4, 2012

@#124 Hartcourt

‘…Oh yes, Spock gets it on with Uhura and Scotty… “

Scotty? Oh, no. Uhura kicks him out. She’s got to have Spock all to herself. ;-)

134. Daoud - June 4, 2012

Tribbles…. are there tribbles in the movie? Inquiring glommers want to know! So does Holly Sherman, and David, the boy who loved her.

135. VZX - June 4, 2012

36. Baroner: We did have a guy in the 90s that communicated with the fans often: Ron Moore! His “Ask Ron Moore” forum on the old AOL was great! I asked many questions on that, and it was used throughout most of DS9’s run.

Bob Orci reminds me a lot of Ron Moore.

136. Aurore - June 4, 2012

Regarding what I wrote in 125.

Simon Pegg once declared he was confident the sequel would be a “character piece” as well as a “good sci-fi romp” thanks to Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci.

I also seem to remember articles about (more) “character development” in the next Star Trek .

My god! The powers that be did promise a lot.

No wonder Mr. Orci drank all that wine, yesterday…

137. florian - June 4, 2012

mr orci, there was one set photo from trek 09 where jj is wearing a star trek bomber jacket. do you know more about that?

138. EM - June 4, 2012

Nice article. I’m glad that these guys like to engage the fans! As for a title, how about “Star Trek : UK”. Seeing as there are a number of awesomw UK actors involved. And I am a big fan of UK science fiction and genre televisioin. Or, maybe, someone could convince the BBC to do a UK version of Trek. That would be incredible!

139. Janice - June 4, 2012

Well, I read the interview and I think Mr Orci saved the best for (almost) last!
Some good Kirk and Pike interaction?/ I LOVE AlLREADY!!
The more Pike the better as far as I’m concerned.

140. T'Cal - June 4, 2012

I’ve always liked Shakespearean references in the titles but “Star Trek: A Good Day to Die” has a nice ring to it especially if the Klingons are the focus.

141. Chap - June 4, 2012

How about calling it something else other than “Star Trek?” I don’t have anything in mind but am thinking along the lines of “The Dark Knight” or “Man of Steel” instead of “Batman 2″ or “Superman.”

Just an idea.

142. Stephan - June 4, 2012

@140

Don’t you think it sounds a bit flat and nerdy?

143. mojomonkey - June 4, 2012

… “Mature” … dare we hope?!?!?!

144. sunfell - June 4, 2012

Considering JJ’s penchant for both secrecy and mystery, I propose that the title of the new movie be:

“Star Trek: The Mystery Box”

145. captain spock - June 4, 2012

star trek2:dark trek
star trek2:beyond the rim of the starlight
star trek2:the new adventure of the uss enterprise
star trek2:the revenge of Khan sing
star trek2:the revenge of botney bay

146. Daoud - June 4, 2012

Well, remember when Boborci said he and Alex considered 2009 to be “Star Trek Zero”?
.
Call this thing “Star Trek: One” ;)

147. Dom - June 4, 2012

The original films gave us the title format of Star Trek [Roman Numeral]: Subtitle

The TNG films were Star Trek: Subtitle

Maybe, since there’s a sense of progression in the new series, it should be Star Trek Part 2: Subtitle . . .

148. Picard's Fish - June 4, 2012

#85..Arne Darvin.. you know, you might not be far off the mark..

and if indeed the comics are dropping hints, note that two upcoming issues deal with a story called “The Truth about Tribbles”

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek_(IDW_ongoing)

ha! fascinating.

149. Red Dead Ryan - June 4, 2012

I see that MJ’s Borg story idea went over everyone’s heads. :-)

I actually like it. Maybe the Borg were originally a benign force made up of volunteers trying to make the galaxy a better place but were co-opted by a power-hungry, Mark Zuckerberg-type technocratic evil woman who proclaimed herself “Queen”.

150. DiscoSpock - June 4, 2012

149. Red Dead Ryan – June 4, 2012
I see that MJ’s Borg story idea went over everyone’s heads. :-)
****

No, we just didn’t care about it enough to comment one way or the other.

151. The Quickening - June 4, 2012

#1

I have a friend of mine–lives just outside of New Orleans, and does a lot of work as an extra in the area–who has told me Louisiana is a hot-bed of Hollywood filming because of incentives, tax breaks, etc.

152. Azrael - June 4, 2012

@149. I liked it, but I didn’t know if anyone was talking to me again yet. The only issue I have with it is that in First Contact the Borg on the Enterprise E were trying to signal the Borg of the Cochrane’s time, indicating that the Collective is already in place long before Kirk’s birth.

153. Red Dead Ryan - June 4, 2012

#152.

True. I guess the Borg story would work better as an IDW comic book mini-series exploring the origins of the Borg.

154. Phil - June 4, 2012

@149. Not at all, they are alive and well in Sacramento.

155. Baroner - June 4, 2012

135 – you’re right. I totally forgot about that. Ron Moore is great.

NOW WHY AREN’T WE TALKING ABOUT SHATNER??? Come on, someone back me up here.

156. dphizler - June 6, 2012

Why is my comment no longer here?

157. Montreal_Paul - June 6, 2012

How about…

Star Trek: Fallen Shadow
Star Trek: Infinite Destiny
Star Trek: Splintered Worlds
Star Trek: Beginnings
or if you must use “2” in the title..
Trek 2

158. Mr. Vulcan - June 6, 2012

I strongly believe that the sequels title should simply be “To Boldly Go”. That line pretty much sums up star trek.

159. Michael Ormes - June 11, 2012

Ive got it. STAR TREK:DARK NITE RISING

160. Chuck Schwartz - June 13, 2012

Well, if Orci ever comes back for another round of questions . . . assuming Trek02 boldly goes off earth (duh) will we get treated to Fred Steiner’s original music scores and/or character themes.

Steiner passed last year. The first of the new Trek movies so properly honored TOS, I can only hope the new one pays as close attention to the bits and pieces that weren’t necessary in the (new) original

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