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CONFIRMED: Star Trek Sequel Panel ‘Unlikely’ For Comic-Con 2012 June 12, 2012

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: CBS/Paramount,Conventions/Events/Attractions,Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback

A bit of breaking news for Tuesday afternoon. Hopes were that JJ Abrams and Paramount would be showing something from the Star Trek sequel at San Diego Comic Con next month, however a new report (and a confirmation from TrekMovie sources) indicates that there won’t be a Trek sequel panel at SDCC 2012. [UPDATED]

 

Star Trek Sequel unlikely to show at SDCC 2012

On Tuesday afternoon Variety’s Showblitz blog reported that Paramount is "skipping" the traditional big "Hall H" panels for San Diego Comic Con 2012. Other studios are also giving 2012 a miss including 20th Century Fox, DreamWorks and Relativity Media.

Variety notes that the full line up has yet to be officially reported and it is still possible that Paramount could change its mind. However, TrekMovie sources have confirmed that as of now there is no plan for a Star Trek sequel panel and it is "unlikely" the plan will change.

Earlier this year Star Trek sequel co-writer/producer Damon Lindelof had said the team had hoped to show something at SDCC. In his more recent interview with TrekMovie.com, Lindelof had noted that they would show something if they felt it was ready:

Our feeling is, that if we can get something together that is worthy of showing on that timetable, then we will most certainly show it. But, if it is sub-par or not ready or requires more post-production, then nobody at Comic Con is going to want to hear us say "hey this is very temporary, but we wanted to show you something." We need to put our best foot forward. We just wrapped principal photography as you know and Comic Con is in mid July so it is an aggressive timetable. If we are going to go we are going to go big or not go at all.

So apparently they feel that they can’t "go big" yet.


Director JJ Abrams w/ his Spocks (Quinto and Nimoy) at Comic Con 2007 – still the only Paramount/Star Trek panel held at SDCC (Photo: Anthony Pascale/TrekMovie.com)

History repeating itself?

While somewhat disappointing, it is not entirely surprising. As noted by Lindelof, it was "aggressive timetable" to get something ready for SDCC. In a way, this is actually par for the course for Star Trek. JJ Abrams did attend Comic Con 2007 to hold a panel announcing the casting of two Spocks (Leonard Nimoy and Zachary Quinto). However, even though the film had wrapped shooting four months earlier, there was no Star Trek panel held for SDCC 2008 (although Abrams and Orci did talk a little bit of Star Trek at the Fringe panel). Instead, Paramount and Bad Robot chose Wondercon in February 2009 to do a big panel with Abrams and some of the cast. Hopefully, if they indeed don’t hold a SDCC panel this year, there will be one for Wondercon in 2013. 


Wondercon 2009 Star Trek panel (L-R) Zoe Saldana, Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Roberto Orci, Bryan Burk, and JJ Abrams (Photo: Anthony Pascale/TrekMovie.com)

UPDATE: No panel doesn’t mean no Star Trek at SDCC

While there is likely not going to be a panel with new footage, that does not mean that Paramount will not do anything related to the film. There was no panel for SDCC 2008, however Paramount did release the first images from the movie in the form of a series of posters at SDCC (also featured in Entertainment Weekly).


Star Trek posters from SDCC 2008

They also devoted a good section of their SDCC 2008 booth to Star Trek, complete with booth babes in Trek outfits giving out Star Trek bags and card collectibles.


Paramount booth babes handing out Star Trek goodies at SDCC 2008

There is no word yet on if there are any plans for this year, but it is hard to imagine that Paramount wont do something related to Star Trek at SDCC 2008.

TrekMovie will continue to monitor things regarding the Star Trek sequel and Comic Con and will provide any updates as new information comes to light.

 

Comments

1. I'm Dead Jim! - June 12, 2012

These guys kinda suck at this.

2. Drew - June 12, 2012

This is a disaster!

I kid, but this movie needs better marketing than the first.

3. Devon - June 12, 2012

^^Internationally, yes. In the U.S. though the marketing was very very good.

4. Aurore - June 12, 2012

The wait is not over.

So, what else is new?

As far as the sequel is concerned, I am still happy with some of the news, I read about, so far.

5. Sunfell - June 12, 2012

I look at it this way- they’re doing it right. I’d rather see something in a more developed state than something half-baked.

We can wait.

6. Craiger - June 12, 2012

The promotion for ths sequel stinks. People might start forgetting about it. I think any new fans they got from the first one will start to loose interest in the sequel. You don’t really want to overpromote but this is getting rediculous. I wonder when the Superman reboot promotion starts since that is also out in 2013. Could it be they are overextending themselves again?

7. Joel - June 12, 2012

Oh well. There goes the potential teaser trailer in July. Something tells me that at this rate, we won’t see our first teaser/poster until the fall. Maybe a teaser attached to a big tentpole like James Bond?

I know we’re going to get a big treat next year and all of this patience will pay off in a big way.

8. Dac - June 12, 2012

So, little presence at Comic Con for the first film because it was pushed, bypassing *any* presence there whatsoever in the year leading up to its release, and now again for the sequel?

I can understand why, but its a massive kick in the gut for us fans who perhaps can’t go to comic con, but aggressively stalk the net waiting for all the gossip and hype from it.

Sure, a teaser trailer will still set the web on fire, but you just can’t buy the kind of buzz and excitement an initial shaky cam trailer that someone records in the panel builds among us geeks. Especially if it has 500 other cell phones in the bottom of the screen. Look at what that did for Tron: Legacy, it literally got that film made. Sure, not everything at Comic Con = a guaranteed moneymaker, but you know Star Trek will be. And having nothing there and playing it close to the chest can, in my opinion hurt a film when everyone else is giving bits away and your not. I keep thinking that what Peter Jackson is doing with the Hobbit video blogs is the right way to keep you interested in a movie, while showing just enough without showing anything at all.

9. Aurore - June 12, 2012

“I look at it this way- they’re doing it right. I’d rather see something in a more developed state than something half-baked.”
_________

Absolutely.

10. Jack - June 12, 2012

How can you promote a film a year in advance? Won’t it just confuse people. Relax, Craiger — it’ll be plenty promoted.

I keep repeatIng myself, but when I hear a lot of news about a movie long before it’s released, well, I start to worry — like Man of Steel. It feels like they’ve been talking about the thing for well over a year now.

11. Jeyl - June 12, 2012

Lindelof: nobody at Comic Con is going to want to hear us say “hey this is very temporary, but we wanted to show you something.”

I ilke how Lindelof just automatically assumes that we’ll be disappointed in seeing something that nobody outside of the studio has seen. I mean, why not? Nicholas Meyer showed us some behind the scenes material for Star Trek VI. If it’s not much or in rough shape, who cares? That’s something we’ll more than likely never see again even in the finished movie. As Nicholas Meyer said after the video…

“We didn’t show you much. We don’t want to show you much.”

See? Your excuse not to come was his very reason why he showed it! I guess this is Lindelof’s way of admitting that comic con doesn’t work ever. After all, the buzz that Cowboys vs Aliens generated didn’t help matters when the film was released at the box office.

Now, do we dare tell him that half a billion miles is still within our own solar system and that nobody uses regular miles when discussing distance in space? I think he’ll need to know that for the potential reshoots for the new Star Trek movie since he’s now officially penning the darn thing. If his writing is as good as it was in Prometheus, we’re in for one heck of a lobotomy.

12. njdss4 - June 12, 2012

I’m disappointed that there won’t be anything at SDCC because we were told there would be something “super soon”. Still, I’d rather they take the time to do it right than be quick and sloppy (twss).

13. Jack - June 12, 2012

11. Star Trek VI also had to repair the damage from Trek V. Nobody was clamoring for a sequel, so a little advance buzz was good.

Speaking of seeing bits if things before they’re complete and not jumping to conclusions — was that Outer Light comic canned because we complained so damned much about it.

14. Keachick - rose pinenut - June 12, 2012

I think this sequel may get more *organic* promotion this time round than with the first film, internationally. I recall seeing a short interview with Karl Urban on TV just after he had been cast for the part of Dr McCoy but not much more. About a month before the movie was released, I read an article in the local TV Guide – in the form of short interviews with Leonard Nimoy and Chris Pine – Pine was totally unknown to me then. A week before the film’s release, the advertisement trailers were screened on TV. I did not know, however, until some time later that there had been a premier showing of Star Trek at the Skytower in Auckland and that actors Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, John Cho and Karl Urban had been here in Auckland (8 April 2009). Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto did a 20 minute interview with our Kate Rodger as well as a shorter interview with John Cho and Karl Urban. They can be found on Youtube.

Star Trek (2009) has screened at least twice on NZ television already. TV3 have started showing a series of recent movies (made within the last five years) on Mondays – 8.30-10.30pm and Star Trek is again among those to be shown at some point in the series (not sure when). This will be the second time it will have been on free-to-air NZ television. I suspect viewers may get yet another screening not long before this sequel is released…Also this time round, people like myself will be more aware and will look out and expect to see more advertising closer to release date.

Of course to Chris Pine (and co.) – there is at least one kiwi who would be only too happy to welcome you to our wee shores to do some Trek/Mantivities(?) promotion, say Hi and give a hug…

15. Walt Kozlowski - June 12, 2012

They could show a teaser of a teaser trailer>Starts with a sea of stars, then you hear somebody say PUNCH IT! and a BIG BANG as the Screen goes to warp followed by the Delta logo saying coming summer 2013!

16. Richard C. - June 12, 2012

I’m beginning to lose interest in this movie.. :(

17. Keachick - rose pinenut - June 12, 2012

Sorry – my writing skills seem wobbly at the moment –

Correction 1: Kate Rodger did a separate, shorter interview with John Cho and Karl Urban.

Correction 2: I don’t think Chris Pine needs me to promote Star Trek or Mantivities or anything else. I meant that he could do some of his own promotional work while here in NZ. Hopefully he’ll not only have a finished and worthy Star Trek to promote, but also have a Jack Ryan movie in post-production and possibly his own film, Mantivities, on its way to being finished, if not already done, as well. Meanwhile I could get to meet him, say Hi and give him a big hug… I hope this makes more sense.

And talking of sense, I am not sure that it may not be a bit early right now to start advertising a movie before much of the post-production is done and 11 months before its actual release. Unless you are a bit of a fan, all it’ll be is (hopefully), “Cool. Moving along now. Next” and the film people will enthuse about is the one they know they’ll get to see within the next few days/weeks.

18. AJ - June 12, 2012

Paramount is sitting with a high-end layer of management which must be absolutely incompetent.

1. ST08 becomes ST09
2. ST2012 becomes ST2013
3. GI Joe, which is repositioned to take over ST2012′s slot, is moved back for re-writes and re-shoots, to undo the major plot point (“retaliation”). Massive ad spend since January goes into the toilet.
4. ‘World War Z,’ which thrilled the 4-year old Paramount execs during dailies to the point they were ready to order a trilogy, tanked after it was wrapped, and now needs Damon to come in and fix it, plus enough re-shoots are in order to make a brand new film.

‘GI Joe’ will be shit, as will ‘World War Z.’ Damon Lindelof dedicates himself to WB TV officially, and then gets called like roto-rooter to un-clog a drain for Paramount. It’s pathetic. Nice, coin, though, I’d expect.

The studio that can now trumpet “Transformers” as a 3 billion dollar franchise has got to be ready to continue to do so, because everything else they have right now is either delayed with massive sunk costs or just sucks.

19. Spike - June 12, 2012

I understand the secrecy to a point but this is getting kinda rediculous, especially after the delays in releasing.

20. Gary Neumann - June 12, 2012

The smartest thing paramount has done lately was to distribute Marvel Studios Movies.

21. Walt Kozlowski - June 12, 2012

I think JJ once said that a 2 hour movie is the max to hold ones interest!

Well that may be true, only if they are in the theater!

22. Dee - lvs moon' surface - June 12, 2012

Well… would be great something… but I understand the time is short…

………………………………….so… waiting for… ;-) :-)

23. claypool2011 - June 12, 2012

I remain unimpressed, and quite distressed that the only Trek we’re getting is once every 4-5 years by a bunch of (while very talented) guys who are not 100% committed to Trek.

It’s not enough.

24. claypool2011 - June 12, 2012

To be clear, as much as I enjoyed what JJ and the boys did for 2009, what this franchise needs is a team that is devoted to it to the exclusion of all else. We don’t need the films delayed because person A or person C has another project in the works.

We need Trek back on the “small” screen. We don’t need more movies.

25. Jimtibkirk - June 12, 2012

Sorry if repeated (scrolled down to avoid spoilers). This panel would be PERFECT for Calgary Expo, just one month before the release. It’s the only way they could top having the entire TNG principal cast this past April.

26. FarStrider - June 12, 2012

Boy, where did this whiny, entitled, Veruca Salt “I-want-it -NOW!” attitude that some people seem to have come from?

Let’s look at some facts, shall we? The first teaser trailer for ST09 came out in January 2008, when Star Trek’s release date was still Christmas 2008. So that was less than a year before the original release date. . . there was NO Star Trek panel at SDCC 2008 (See article above), so we didn’t really see or hear anything about Star Trek until NOVEMBER 2008, when the first trailer came out with Quantum of Solace and the first commercials came out about a week later . . . according to an article written at the time: “For its first 2009 tentpole, the studio has taken the UNPRECEDENTED step of rolling out a full-scale promotional tour for “Star Trek” nearly six months before its May 8 release” (see: http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/11/21/us-startrek-idUSTRE4AK0LG20081121 for the entire article). . . Then we had to wait until the Super Bowl in February for an extended commercial, and until March for the second trailer. . .after which there were 14 (maybe 16?) different TV spots until the movie came out on May 8. . . They rolled out the advertising early for ST09 (unprecedented, remember) because they were trying to reach a generation for whom TOS was not something they actually grew up watching and to build excitement overseas. . . since they don’t have to do that this time around (BTW, ST09 is the fifth most popular category on Fanfiction.net — sort of an unofficial mark of where it stands in pop culture these days) we probably won’t be getting anything substantial trailer-wise until absolutely necessary. . . so all of this “I’m losing interest in the movie” “They aren’t doing it the way I want them to,” and “I want a trailer NOW or I will take my toys and go home” whining isn’t going to make Christmas or the Super Bowl come any faster. . .

I’m sorry for all of you impatient people. . . but really, what would you have done in the 1970s when all there was of Trek were rumors, ‘zines and bad books? what would you have done in the 1980s when there were only movies every 3 to 4 years until 1987, and the TNG wasn’t all that good, and was lucky that it was in syndication those first 2 seasons and allowed to build an audience. . . because if it were on regular TV it definitelyt would have been cancelled.

~FS

27. Jimtibkirk - June 12, 2012

http://www.calgaryexpo.com

28. Red Dead Ryan - June 12, 2012

Well, I told you this wasn’t going to happen! I am right once again.

#13.

“The Outer Light” comic strip got cancelled because it was crap!

29. Andy Patterson - June 12, 2012

Since when did something have to be big, grandiose, and well done to be shown at Comic Con? Especially these days. It’s really just the fact that they show up that people care about. Lotta sub par stuff that makes a splash there now.

30. Walt Kozlowski - June 12, 2012

# 24
I agree Trek needs a devoted torch bearer! Trek is at it’s best on TV.
But There is still room for motion pictures. From the start of TNG to the end of Enterprise(624 episodes) there were 6 Trek movies!

31. Andy Patterson - June 12, 2012

Or maybe they’ll show four million clips of the movie, as seems to be the trend these days. Uh, when did that start by the way?

32. Walt Kozlowski - June 12, 2012

# 29
Yeah just show up because you care about the fans! Let the fans know how things are going hand out some T-shirts or something.

33. eowyn - June 12, 2012

Crying because crying! UGH! The teaser should blow our minds for waiting. I mean it.

34. Bill Peters - June 12, 2012

@BobOrci Is there a time Table where we get some News on the Movie that gives us more then we have now sometime in late 2012?

35. LizardGirl - June 12, 2012

Okay, so they’re not ready for Comic Con…no biggie. I’m still hoping there will be a teaser to accompany The Dark Knight Rises (July 20). I don’t think there will be anything ready in time for The Amazing Spider Man (July 3). That’s kind of sad, but hopefully the same crowd will be found in The Dark Knight Rises theater, probably with less kids though. Not sure if that’s a good thing or not, from a marketing standpoint.

I really want to see something come out this summer though. That’s still another 2 months or so? My patience is running out (for a stinking teaser!) but as #5 & #12 posters say above, best not to “rush” it. I’d be ticked if they slapped something together and it sucked more than not knowing anything.

36. Jefferies Tuber - June 12, 2012

Pathetic.

37. MJ - June 12, 2012

Red Dead Ryan was right again. He predicted this!

38. Jack - June 12, 2012

There’s a new The Outer Light on his site.

39. Javier Lorenz Jr. - June 12, 2012

Man up or leave OUR franchise alone already!!!

40. La Reyne d'Epee - June 12, 2012

As one of the fans outside of the States who will never get anywhere near this event, it matters not one whit to me if it appears there or not. It also doesn’t make much sense to waste time actively promoting something that’s still a year away. In fact I can see the ways in which it would be wholly counterproductive.

I’m sure a large majority of those who saw the last film will still remember four years later that they enjoyed it and will want to see the next one as a consequence.

I guess I can wait!

41. Basement Blogger - June 12, 2012

We all know how big SDCC is. With Star Trek being delayed unitl 2013, the lack of new Star Trek stories except for a comic or two, I am concerned about the publicity for the new movie.

I hope the new game comes out early in 2013. More importantly, let’s hope for a great game.

42. MJ - June 13, 2012

Based on this, I am really considering attending this convention in November in SF, which is Creations biggest Trek convention of the year:

http://www.creationent.com/cal/st_sanfrancisco.html

This smells like the right time-frame for JJ to finally make a public appearance, and perhaps preview the first full trailer.

43. EddiePaskey - June 13, 2012

Hey folks, this is the give and take once the Abrams crew took over our Trek. We traded underperforming B+B drivel for a big budget action packed side project of a Star Wars fan (and if you don’t think Trek09 was Star Wars with a coating of Trek you’re blind or Liz… And that’s coming from someone who loved the film). As much as we’d like to see Manny Coto be given free reign and an hour every week on television, it’s not gonna happen. I’ve learned to not only accept but expect delays, secrecy, rehashes and all the negatives that come along with Bad Robot. But I consider it a worthwhile trade since at least we have a big movie to gnash our teeth about. Let’s not forget just how close this franchise was to going away for good just a few short years ago.

44. Mark Lynch - June 13, 2012

Not even remotely surprised at this news…

45. Mark Lynch - June 13, 2012

@41
If Paramount have any sense whatsoever they will release this game no more than a week before the film hits the streets. It’s free marketing for God’s sake, there’s no way they won’t take advantage of it.
Unless, they are complete idiots that is….

46. Vulcan Soul - June 13, 2012

No Panel? No doubt because the movie won’t come before 2014 now either. At least it gained an official title now: “Vapor Trek” ;)

47. shamelord - June 13, 2012

“They went to the stars and never trekked back”

48. mynameschris - June 13, 2012

Do we need a big promotion machine this early on, theres still 11 months till the films release and the way some people act they want teasers not only in the cinema but on TV as well.

Teaser TV spots for The Dark Knight Rises have only just started appearing over here in the UK this week, and that is just quick shots of the bat emblem during ad breaks (viral marketing works as it had people who didnt know wondering what it was).

End of the day panels at cons will only promote it to fans who will be reading websites like this, the movie goers and new fans who were brought in from the last film wont be interested this early on and only will be when they see the main promotion train fire up in the months leading up to release.

49. Mel - June 13, 2012

@ 48 mynameschris

“End of the day panels at cons will only promote it to fans who will be reading websites like this,…”

And Star Trek fans, who read those news, will speak with other scifi fans and movie fans in general. This way you create a buzz. No news -> nothing to speak about -> no buzz.

Fans are a good promotion tool, but you have to give them something. Otherwise a lot of them will just give their attention to other movies/series/franchises.

50. P Technobabble - June 13, 2012

Wow, lots of impatient people hangin out here. Do you run out of the house without your pants on just cos you’re in a rush to get to that sale at Walmart?
If the Court doesn’t feel ready to release anything, then they shouldn’t rush to release anything.
A bad buzz is worse than no buzz.

51. Pleasure Girl 1990 - June 13, 2012

#16 Me too;

To be honest, I’m rapidly losing interest in this movie.

I would rather watch my TOS DVD’s over and over again, rather than sit through anything as bad as the last film.

52. JRT! - June 13, 2012

Or maybe with all the Brits in this movie they’ll show something at that big con in London in October. I’m hoping for something at NYCC,also in October,weekend before the London one to be precise.. Have to admit though,what they show has to be bloody AMAZING or I’m out….again,lol!

Have fun y’all! J-R!

53. EM - June 13, 2012

@ 26. FarStrider
I like what you had to say. Everyone these days are so impatient. I’m sure that Mr. Orci likes to see that there are still people who want to learn about the story as it “unfolds” on the movie screen before them. Me too.
I remember, as a 13 year old, not even knowing that ST:TMP was being made until I saw it on the cover of a Starlog Magazine! Then, BANG! The movie was in theatres. Hardly any waiting at all! Same as when I was 11 years old. Never heard of Star Wars until I saw R2D2 (I think) on the cover of a Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine. Then, BANG! It was in theatres. Best surprise, ever!
I’m happy to keep information about the new Star Trek on the down low.
I hope that they surprise me, just like when I was a little kid.

54. Bill - June 13, 2012

It is just a movie. And it is not with the original Captain Kirk. So, what do you expect from it?

55. mynameschris - June 13, 2012

@ 49 Mel

While I get what your saying if they choose to release something its because they are ready to, to rush it and get it wrong just to put ‘something’ out there for a con would be stupid…but then maybe this is what they want you to think so theres a suprise.

56. VZX - June 13, 2012

Does having a comic-con presence really increase the box-office take of a movie? I mean, those fans that would go to comic-con would most likely see the movie anyway, so why would a studio bother to spend the money to go to comic-con?

57. Sebastian S. - June 13, 2012

On the plus side, it saves me the hours of time wastage in trying to get into the infamous Hall H….

;-)

58. boomer13 - June 13, 2012

Honestly not appearing at Comic-Con is no big deal. I mean only us geeks pay attention to those things. Have faith. When it will be done, it will be done. Patience.

59. Sebastian S. - June 13, 2012

# 56

Yes.
I’ve been going to CC almost 10 years, and I’ve seen it make or break movies. No kidding….

60. Doug - June 13, 2012

The only thing worth having (or seeing in this case), is that which you have to work hard for. It’s okay, I understand and will be patient :)

61. Calastir - June 13, 2012

[spoony]“Betrayal! Be-trayed me!”[/spoony]

Hey, why don’t we respond in kind and not talk about this movie anymore until it opens. Seriously, they expect Trekkies to keep the torch burning for 4-5 years for no treats, not even scraps at all?

62. rm10019 - June 13, 2012

59 – Not that I doubt it, but what would be your “proof” for a direct causative effect between CC presence and Box Office?

Not just well ‘Movie A” was big at comic con and was big at the box office, that doesn’t prove anything. What data would you use?

I would think ‘breaking’ a movie would be more likely. You show crappy footage at comic con, and turn off your core audience then boom, there goes even your base. But showing great footage at comic con, unless carried by major media markets doesn’t really go beyond good marketing for a quality product.

63. The Quickening - June 13, 2012

I think Paramount, Bad Robot and a few fans, look at TREK as a different kind of product from other franchises. Sure, TREK came from television, the movies don’t do well internationally, and there is a cerebral content that exist in TREK that may hurt it in the dumbed-down arena of today’s escapist films, but that’s no reason to market it differently. It’s a mistake. They should do the direct opposite. In some international markets, TREK ’09 wasn’t marketed at all. Paramount has never really understood what they had with TREK, and how to go about selling it.

Now, Bad Robot is doing the same thing: treating it as a different animal and it really isn’t. I think part of the problem is Abrams’ himself, who somehow thinks he’s smarter that everybody else in Hollywood. He wants to do things against the grain–which is all well and good, but I feel he is doing damage and missing opportunities. A pity.

64. VZX - June 13, 2012

59 and 62: Ok, I’ve never been to comic-con, so I am not an authority on such things, but it really does not makes sense: how does a comic-con presence affect box office? I mean, maybe 100,000 people see it at comic-con, and then maybe a million more watch it on-line, but that is still just a drop in the bucket for the 40 million people needed to go see it for the movie to be successful. It’s the non-geeks that the movie needs to be marketed to, not us.

65. Numptee head - June 13, 2012

Oh I say
Another top story confirming that nothing will be happening!

What’s tomorrow going to bring??
Confirmation of nothing happening part two!

Jackson, Nolan, etc etc. Now they seem to know how to promote a movie!
and before you all start moaning about spoilers i’m sure bridge set shots and crew shots would give away nothing at all so don’t even go there about spoilers.

66. Numptee head - June 13, 2012

I said don’t even go there!
Yes, that means you

67. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - June 13, 2012

Today’s Top story from J.J on Star Trek.
Nothing new to report.
Next. No more New’s on Star Trek.

68. Anthony Thompson - June 13, 2012

The veil of secrecy MUST be maintained!

69. Anthony Thompson - June 13, 2012

59.Sebastion S.

Would you mind naming a few (that it made and broke)? BTW, did you hook up with ‘the girl of your dreams’ there?

70. EM - June 13, 2012

@ 59. Sebastian S.

I don’t think that Comicon makes or breaks films. Scott Pilgrim was well received at SDCC and flopped. I’m sure there are other examples in both directions of SDCC reception vs. opposite Real World reaction.

@ 64 / 65 Numptee

I’m sure that there is lots happening with respect to the movie.
Those in charge just don’t care to say anything. That’s great. And we already know what the bridge looks like. And what the crew looks like. And what the ship looks like. And who wrote, directed and produced the movie. We could probably find out who the Key Grip was if we wished. He / She probably put something on his / her facebook account. Does not mentioning anything about spoilers count as not going there? Dohh!

71. Robman007 - June 13, 2012

Don’t really care about CC or no CC. I just hope the film is good and that the delays, secrecy and lack of any promotion outside of Trek websites won’t hurt the films standing with the general audience. Trek 09 went a very long way in building an audience outside of Trek fans. The delay in filming along with any real promotion could potentially hurt the film.

That’s the thing that most Trek fans don’t understand while they complain about the film “not being MY Star Trek” and “I want the unknown not a villian and explosions” is that these films are NOT MADE for us Trek fans. They are made for the general movie audience because THEY will be the one with the final say on if Trek continues as a tent pole movie franchise. WE have NOTHING to do with that.

72. AJ - June 13, 2012

My frustration stems from the “let’s not advertise, and screw the bottom-line” approach being taken with regard to ST2013. There is so much work that needs to be done, especially overseas, to re-introduce STAR TREK. Based on current numbers, it’s Europe and Asia that are providing huge numbers, and taking today’s large film franchises up over a billion US per film.

In 2009, Paramount wasted a bit of money by sending JJ and some actors around to a few countries just prior to launch. One-third of the film’s revenue ($127m of $386m in total) came from overseas. Now, with much better 3D and IMAX infrastructure in place, we are seeing films make the bulk of their grosses outside the US. John Carter made 75% of its overall gross outside of the US. Avengers, currently at $1.4b in earnings, took 60% of that number from outside the US.

While San Diego is really just a geek-fest, one worries about whether or not the Star Trek Film With No Name will be the next Paramount property to go into massive re-writes and re-shoots like GI Joe and World War Z. I’m betting that the one-year delay and all the talk that ‘the script is evolving’ means that whatever weak link there is in Paramount’s brass was also involved here, and whatever finished product they have is just not ready to show. Not even one second. Not even a title.

With millions already pissed away to market a GI Joe film that is now being re-written and re-shot, you can bet that everyone’s walking on eggshells at Paramount about promoting the studio’s tent-poles when the products themselves are not even bankable.

73. Matt - June 13, 2012

I guess the tiny upside of this is that I don’t have to get up super early and wait in line for Hall H next month.

74. Guy Fawkes - June 13, 2012

I guess the movie is that bad.

75. Al - June 13, 2012

@AJ. Why does Star Trek need to be “reintroduced”? Didn’t the 2009 movie already do that? This is Star Trek – they don’t need to do this sort of thing to promote it because people already know it’s coming. All they need is to put out a trailer before some compatible movie (say the new Bond film), and generate positive word of mouth by doing previews of the complete film as they did in 2009, and they’re set. Some folks are saying this is a knock against Trek fans, missing the fact many of the big studios are skipping the panels this year. It’s a logistical nightmare and a big expense to bring everyone together for a panel that may or may not have any bearing on a film’s success. Scott Pilgrim and Cowboys & Aliens tanked despite SDCC panels.

Does anyone here actually believe that Star Trek 12 is in any danger of box office failure for not being promoted at events like SDCC?

76. Damian - June 13, 2012

I think the concern about whether Star Trek lost it’s buzz may be founded in some respects. Most of us here will see it, I have no doubt, because we all are Trekkies.

But what about all the good will from the public they earned with the last film. I bet 5 bars of gold pressed latinum most of them don’t even realize there is a sequel coming up. The public has a very short memory. I fyou asked a guy off the street about the sequel, they’d probably say something like “yeah, what happened to that.”

I just have a feeling instead of building on the fame of the last film, by the time the next film comes out, they will have to start from scratch getting people in the seats. I certainly think it’s likely they’ll do very well, but waiting this long may have cost them a bit with the general public because I really do believe the buzz from Star Trek (2009) with the general moviegoing public has been lost.

77. Jack - June 13, 2012

“My frustration stems from the “let’s not advertise, and screw the bottom-line” approach being taken with regard to ST2013″

Again, it’s a year away. They finished filming a month ago. What are they going to advertise? Come see our movie in a year? If we’re still having this conversation in nine months — well, then maybe I’d start to worry a little.

78. Phil - June 13, 2012

Okay, I get that Trek doesn’t need to be at Comic-Con San Diego, but the longer this lack of promotion goes on the more it’s going to fuel speculation that this is a load of crap. It also does not bode well for expanding the franchise beyond the three movies JJ and his guys have said they are on board for. What this is really starting to look like is that there is no plans for post JJ Trek, or any other Trek for that matter.

79. Vultan - June 13, 2012

If not a teaser trailer or speaker panel at CC, it would probably be smart to at least display a logo or THE TITLE (if they have it yet), and maybe some props if they can spare them.

Little stuff like that can still go a long way in marketing terms.

80. Curious Cadet - June 13, 2012

Too bad. However, JJ will be speaking at Apple’s WWDC in San Francisco this week, along with LeVar Burton. so perhaps he may show some footage there …

81. Landru's cousin, Dandru - June 13, 2012

And again, people have such a strong sense of entitlement. They’ll market the film when they’re ready to do so–they don’t owe us anything, so feeling angry, betrayed, furious, etc., over not yet having a trailer is senseless.

82. Red Dead Ryan - June 13, 2012

#37.

Yes I did! Thanks!

I do think we’ll see some sort of trailer/teaser unveiled either at a convention or before a big blockbuster movie in late summer or early fall.

83. Phil - June 13, 2012

It’s not a question of the fan base being owed anything – if they don’t have anything to show I get that. Presumably, when JJ and crew were brought on board it was to revitalize the franchise, and Paramount put a lot of effert into talking about how they thought it had the potential to be a moneymaker. CBS isn’t stupid, they want to make some money, too. Like it or not, for the franchise to survive it needs a new, younger fan base, and it seems like the effort to find it is non-existant. The kids love Hunger Games, Star Wars, Twilight, Harry Potter, so you can’t tell me the audience isn’t there….

84. Kirk, James T. - June 13, 2012

Ah I think this is a bit of a bummer. I doubt it’ll effect the movie’s performance but it may have just added to the Star Trek franchise profile and the importance of Star Trek as a heavy weight not just in 2013 but as a brand – as much as the creative people in the captain’s chair want to keep Star Trek’s secrets wrapped up, I kind of think the studio should make them do something to launch it at SDCC – It’s one thing to hold back on plot details but it’s never too early to go big with Star Trek.

A shame.

85. Lostrod - June 13, 2012

And the headlines are saying …

‘The Hobbit,’ ‘Man Of Steel,’ ‘Oz,’ & ‘Pacific Rim’ Expected For Comic-Con But No ‘Dark Knight Rises’ Or ‘Star Trek 2′

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/the-hobbit-man-of-steel-oz-pacific-rim-expected-for-comic-con-but-no-dark-knight-rises-or-star-trek-2-20120613

Man of Steel will feature footage. A movie that comes out a month after ST. However, I think they wrapped production earlier.

Hope they have some from Pacific Rim.

Regards

86. BoltBait - June 13, 2012

I’m still hoping that we’ll get at least one actor from the new movie at the Las Vegas ST con in August.

Doesn’t look like it though… :(

87. VZX - June 13, 2012

I’m thinking a surprise, bait & switch kind of thing happening….

88. Chris Roberts - June 13, 2012

Too busy knuckling down, to try and get it finished and in theatres by Christmas?

Star Trek (*cough* To Boldly Go? *cough* ) could be the only thing worth watching then.

89. AJ - June 13, 2012

75:

“Star Trek” is an institution in the US, with good, solid bases in UK and Germanic countries, and in some other pockets where the TV show had some traction. How “Star Trek” differs from other big tentpoles is that, once the film has cycled from cinema to purchased media, the marketing machine shuts down. It disappears until the next film presents another marketing budget.

‘Star Wars’ and all the major super-heroes are on television in animated form constantly, and the swag is always available in the toy departments of major big-box stores.

So, if you were 6, and your dad took you to see ST09 in 2009, you will be 10 when the new film comes out, and without any support from Paramount or CBS between the films, you will not remember ST09 at all.

Perhaps a few trailers would be nice, but the introduction of an animated series and associated toys would get the younger generation involved. Otherwise, Trek fans are aging, and the hope of a predictable, and profitable steady base will simply disappear.

90. Lt. Bailey - June 13, 2012

They really need something to show the fans but also to the public to gain some kind of traction in building excitement for the next film. I got a feeling that the long delay (between films) and no teaser trailer will hurt the next film and I wonder if it will do as well as the first JJ film. Sure us fans will love it, but it needs the general public too.

91. star trackie - June 13, 2012

Not surprising since the movie is still a year away. That’s a long time, still way early to start the buzz machine. A teaser placed before a big summer blockbuster would be seem to be more appropriate and effective at this stage of the game.

92. LizardGirl - June 13, 2012

What is CBS waiting for? We know what Paramount’s doing. CBS doesn’t have to wait on the sequel to begin an animated series. That would be an indirect way of marketing the sequel as well as preparing the general masses for an new Trek franchise. Paramount won’t press JJ to release anything about the sequel (dead end), CBS owns the television rights to Trek….okay let’s do something with that please. Someone needs to jump in first. Take courage, CBS. Do an animated Trek series already!

93. martin - June 13, 2012

I don’t have a problem with this. Yes, I am interested in Trek 2013 and also in Man of Steel – why aren’t we seeing stuff from that.

But on the other hand, it sort of feels like both Spiderman and even to a larger extent Dark Knight have shot their wad WAY before the opening.

I know we are going to be blitzed over the next month with Dark Knight, but a lot of what we will see is stuff we saw six months or MORE ago. I just think that a little more intrigue until right up until release would have been good.

What they did for Trek 2009, which originally started with Trek 2008, was the Under Construction ad, and that was a good teaser.

94. The Quickening - June 13, 2012

#75–Does anyone here actually believe that Star Trek 12 is in any danger of box office failure for not being promoted at events like SDCC?

I think you are speaking in extremes. It’s not a question of tanking at the boxoffice, it’s a question of maximizing exposure, which can never hurt. I feel you are under-valuing what long-term marketing can do. Products like THE AVENGERS have years of marketing exposure. This certainly helps in the success and exposure of a film, but also builds anticipation and excitement over a longer period of time, therefore increasing the number of people who not only know about the film, but equally important–what the film is about. STAR TREK ’13, fails on both of these counts.

95. THX-1138 - June 13, 2012

Totally unsurprised by this news. After all, it involves marketing the film, something that the producers and studio don’t do very well.

I admit that I’m not all that excited about the sequel, and haven’t been since about a week after seeing the first movie. You bet I’ll be in the theater during the first week of release. Heck, it get’s released on my birthday; somebody will probably take me to it. and I am a Star Trek fan, after all. But most of my problems with the movie stem from the fact that the first one wasn’t the one I wanted to see. Honestly, for me, it just opened the door for me to nitpick every problem with it. How could I be chomping at the bit to see the sequel?

SDCC would seem to be the obvious choice nowdays if you have a movie to release in the next year. You’re telling me that not one bit of filming, ever so brief a glimpse even, is not ready to be put together and shown? At he biggest geek festival of the year? Come on guys, get with it.

As for the fan entitlement issue: Congratulations on all of you that have learned to use the new buzzword of the moment. Do I feel owed? Yeah, I kind of do. When Star Trek was nothing but 79 episodes in constant rerun on TV I was one of many that stood by it, seeing the same episodes over and over. I watched the animated series in exactly the same way and was there on opening day for TMP. I have been a faithful fan of Star Trek for many decades and yes, excuse me if sometimes I feel that I should be able to let the current holders of the reins know what I think and what I want to see. If it weren’t for the fans, those of us who were there for the very lean times, there would be no Star Trek today. So the rest of you, quit telling me what kind of fan I should be. Maybe I should tell YOU.

I hope that Star Trek returns to TV where it belongs. I hope that it will one day return to the Prime Universe. I hope to once again go on weekly adventures with a crew that I will come to know and love.

I hope.

96. Vultan - June 13, 2012

#95

Well put!

Though I seriously doubt we’ll see a return to the Prime Universe, Trek is/was made for television. And in any universe, I think it’s due for a comeback.

97. Bucky - June 13, 2012

I think it’s less Bad Robot’s problem than it is Paramount is in a bit of a tailspin right now when it comes to genre properties (G.I. Joe delayed, World War Z reshoots). So if they show off Star Trek they want it to be in pristine shape.

98. Orly - June 13, 2012

I read an interview with Cumberbatch today in which he said Star Trek 2 will be phenomenal. He doesnt gush about projects he’s in so the fact that he’s ecstatic about this says a lot.

99. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - June 13, 2012

58:

WRONG

Comic Con is very much a mainstrem even and not the purvue of the steriotypical Trekker and Star Warsies, Fat asses dressed like Klingons or Jedi

Comic Con is a massive Buzz garnering event that sets the templates for ALL the major studio’s genre films.

They should have something if only a teaze

100. Bill Peters - June 13, 2012

This movie needs to be done Correctly and I figure that It would be nice to see a Movie Trailer before October 2012 but I know by then we should know more but I think they may still be cutting the film.

101. Aurore - June 13, 2012

87. VZX – June 13, 2012
“I’m thinking a surprise, bait & switch kind of thing happening….”
________

And, you already know they can pull off those kinds of things :

http://trekmovie.com/2009/04/06/austin-tx-fans-given-surprise-showing-of-entire-star-trek-movie/

.

102. Anthony Pascale - June 13, 2012

I do think some people are taking this development too far. Yes it was hoped that SDCC 2012 would have something from Star Trek, but it was always a bit of a long shot, certainly not a given nor something that was critical. As noted by Variety, many companies are not showing at SDCC and also noted above, they didnt do it in 2008. It doesn’t mean anything and really with JJ Abrams it isnt a surprise.

Also i added a bit at the bottom of the article to note that no panel does not mean no Star Trek. I dont have any new details, but looking again at 2008, Paramount did do some Star Trek stuff at the show with the first images/posters and giveaways at the booth.

So sure be sad, but no need to be all doom and gloom about it

103. No Khan - June 13, 2012

They always skimp out on Comic Con.

104. TrekTech - June 13, 2012

Delay delay delay…no SDCC…fail. After making fans wait for 4 years now they dont have anything to show except maybe some posters at SDCC? I hate to say it but Im just not enthusiastic anymore. They wasted the momentum gained by the first film.

105. DaddlerTheDalek - June 13, 2012

Just give me a Teaser Poster and I’m Happy. I also would love to see a simple little Teaser Trailer like the one of ST09 back in January 2008.

106. Keachick - rose pinenut - June 13, 2012

What many people are missing here is that the Star Trek sequel is being promoted, right now, by Alex Kurtzman and Chris Pine. In every interview they do in promotion People Like Us, the Star Trek sequel gets mentioned and Chris Pine seems as animated about being Captain Kirk as he is about playing Sam in People Like Us.

Another article showing Chris Pine with his girlfriend also mentions the new Star Trek and its release date -

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/18737700/people-like-us?clienttype=printable

and this – Oh my, that man does look sooo good!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2157645/Chris-Pine-boldly-goes-celebs–shops-bargain-flea-market-model-girlfriend.html#ixzz1xW7MWeKn

This is subtle advertising and probably very effective, because through these mediums, the idea of a new Star Trek being made is likely to reach a lot more people, for instance, those who might not ordinarily be interested in Star Trek or sci-fi in general, but like and follow what Chris Pine does.

107. Gary S. - June 13, 2012

Isnt this movie coming out around Xmas 2013?
Surely they will have something for Comic Con 2013.
And, we will probably have a teaser around XMas 2012 .
It’s all good people.

108. FarStrider - June 13, 2012

@106 That is a very good point Keachick. Every frickin media outlet who interviews anyone of the Star Trek producers or actors ask about Trek, no matter what project they are promoting. So Trek is never really far out of the public’s mind, never really out of the media’s attention, and as the premiere date gets closer, we’ll see more and more focus on it. This is natural “organic” promotion. . . word of mouth, which is much more valuable than any forced campaign that isn’t quite ready for prime time.

Plus, like I said above, for Trek 09, promoting six months out was considered unprecedented. We have 11 months until the movie, we know JJ keeps his movies under wraps until he can’t anymore. . .why all of this angst?

~FS

109. Bill Peters - June 13, 2012

@107 the Release date is May of next year, 1 year from last month! we have 10 months to go.

110. Aurore - June 14, 2012

My fellow Star Trek fans, “this movie will be out before you know it”.

( It’s an inspirational quote from a man who writes fan fiction.).

:)

111. Chris Roberts - June 14, 2012

110. Funny. I though Bob Orci wrote said that…

112. Chris Roberts - June 14, 2012

;)

113. Chris Roberts - June 14, 2012

thought

114. Damian - June 14, 2012

My concern is not so much about the lack of publicity at this juncture (though that could help) but more fundamental. It goes back to my earlier comments about losing the buzz from such a large delay between films. It’s about the general public (not Trekkies) who probably have already forgotten about Star Trek (2009). There have been many blockbusters since 2009. Can they get them back, sure, but as someone else noted, they may need to reintroduce the general public to some of the characters and themes because of the long gap.

It’s not something I’m losing sleep over. It’s just in 2009, it was cool to be a Star Trek fan again. I only had that feeling 2 other times since I became a Trekkie way back in 1986. The first was when Star Trek IV came out. That movie was hugely popular with the general public and there was talk of a new TV series again.

The second was when First Contact came out in 1996. Like TVH, First Contact was hugely popular, and Deep Space Nine was hitting it’s high by that point, and Voyager was still doing ok with ratings.

I’ve been a Star Trek fan all along, following every episode of every series, watched all 10 movies (seen every movie since Star Trek III in the theater) and have loved it all. But it’s nice when Star Trek is mainstream too. I just hope we don’t lose that public support.

115. Aurore - June 14, 2012

110. “Funny. I thought Bob Orci wrote said that…”
______

I’m sorry, Bob who ?

(winks back at ya)

116. Anthony Thompson - June 14, 2012

109. Bill Peters

Your math is a littkle cockeyed, my man. 10 months? The sequel is opening in May, not April! Which, BTW, is almost a year later than the date you confidently predicted here time after time. ; )

117. Sagart - June 14, 2012

We’ve had Zachary and John Cho at Vegas in recent years. How about this year? Come on guys!! And bring the teaser with you!!

118. Bill Peters - June 14, 2012

116, I was hoping for a 2012 Release and I was hoping that they had been working on the film in 2011, true but I made that comment at 3AM in the morning with NO sleep. I am going to be happy with the 2012 Release Date ! true it is 11 months away but it is still less then a Year away.

119. Chris Roberts - June 14, 2012

It might be feasible. Star Trek was ready for Christmas 2008, but sat in storage until May 2009. Depends whether this sequel is much more post-production intensive and whether Paramount decide it has summer tent-pole covered.

—– STAR TREK —–
T O B O L D L Y G O

This Holiday Season?

120. Chris Roberts - June 14, 2012

—– STAR TREK —–
T O B O L D L Y G O

*damn*

I’ll get that spacing right one day…

121. Chris Roberts - June 14, 2012

Also mightn’t Paramount be wanting the Star Trek sequel to carry its new 100th Anniversary logo and be it’s flagship movie this year… IF other productions in the pipeline aren’t as far along as they’d hoped.

122. Keachick - rose pinenut - June 15, 2012

I thought part of the delay with release of this Star Trek sequel is because there is more post-production work to do this time round, given that Paramount is insisting on a 3D conversion. However, Abrams and others have said that some of the work normally associated with post-production was being done at the same time as principal photography.

As far as I’m concerned, the sooner the better for a release date – December is the beginning of Summer here anyway… but the fear is that the quality might not be as good.

123. Chris Roberts - June 15, 2012

I’m still led to believe Star Trek (2009) was ready in time for Christmas. But is that the case, because it wouldn’t have made as much money or have been as critically well-received then?

Does the time of year affect whether the reviews are mostly kind then? Summer equals a film getting an easier ride? I have to admit, I’ve always found that hard to wrap my head around. Sun is shining and obviously, folks want to rush indoors to see a movie! Is it for the air conditioning Then again I’m British, and our Summer right now generally means getting drenched… That wouldn’t have any effect on whether it’s any good or not. Although the time window open to it being a hit and growing legs enough to stay high in the Box Office, is perhaps shorter.

124. Chris Roberts - June 15, 2012

Shorter in Nov or Dec through January – than – May through until the Autumn.

125. Phil - June 15, 2012

There is an antique mall in downtown Riverside, with tons of Star Trek merchendise. Nothing there for more then a buck or two, including the stuff in it’s origonal package. In a city with a population of 300,000, and a suburb of Los Angeles, these are the only places where you can get Trek stuff. The conversation really stops at antique mall, actually.

126. Keachick - rose pinenut - June 15, 2012

#123 – I think it may have to do with the Summer being a holiday time for children/students and for many of their parents. Therefore, they are looking for things to do, like going to see a movie. I guess this is also why studios are keen to make their movies PG or PG-13.

I doubt it has much to do with whether the movie is good or not. It is just that more people have a bit more time on their hands. For the rest of the time, people are working long hours at work/school, the days are shorter and colder and just going home and crashing is such a good idea.

127. JRT! - June 18, 2012

Oh well,after all it’s only a movie.Good thing I’m just a Trekker and not a Trekkie,lol! Or I would’ve been really pissed when my contact at Disney in this country told me he knows who the villain is,lol! At this point,and with nothing at SDCC,I don’t care much anymore. Still hoping it ain’t Khan though.

Have fun y’all! J-R!

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