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Watch: SDCC Preview For JJ Abrams Mysterious Post-apocalyptic Series ‘Revolution’ July 16, 2012

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This fall Star Trek director/producer (and co-creator of Lost and Fringe) JJ Abrams has another mysterious TV show headed to NBC, Revolution. The new series is set in a post-apocalypse world where all technology has stopped working. A new clip with footage and interview clips (including Abrams and pilot director Jon Favreau) was revealed at Comic Con and is now available from NBC. Watch it below  

 

Previews for JJ Abrams new mysterious post-apocalyptic TV series ‘Revolution’

New SDCC preview of Revolution.

More from executive producer JJ Abrams talking about Revolution.

Previously released extended trailer.

Revolution premieres on Monday September 17 at 10PM on NBC.

Comments

1. Craiger - July 16, 2012

An Abrams show is going to be competing against an Orci and Kurtzman show. LOL. I may record Revolution and watch Hawaii 5-0. Hawaii 5-0 is one of my favorite shows.

2. Jeff & The Hamstrings - July 16, 2012

The only problem with this (if it could be called a problem) is that the production values look pretty high – if it doesn’t get a massive audience rating, it could just be another Terra Nova.

Still, looks promising!

3. Shilliam Watner (Click for Trek Ships Poster) - July 16, 2012

I don’t know about this. Favreau said there’s a big mystery revealed over the course of the series. I’ve never watched a show that had a “big mystery” revealed at the end that didn’t disappoint me.

4. StevenPDX - July 16, 2012

Interesting premise. The problem for me is that the cable series are sooo good these days (The Newsroom, Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, and so on). They’re free from the constraints of network TV and feel more like original, mini-movies rather than traditional episodic television. Plus: no commercials! I’m sure it’ll be great ’cause it’s JJ but the competition will be stiff (agree with 2: Jeff).

I’ll certainly watch the episodes once it airs.

5. CmdrR - July 16, 2012

I’ll certainly be there for the premiere, and then who knows…
Best of luck!

6. Bugs Nixon - July 16, 2012

Another high concept Twilight Zone spread thinly across a whole series.

Serling pumped a new one of these out every week. I’m always skeptical of these shows… it works in an anthology, but not long term. TNG had its multiple high concept eps along with a continuing serial narrative.

I want it to succeed. I wanted Jericho to succeed. But I’m not convinced this will last beyond a season.

7. AJ - July 16, 2012

Is that the Bridge set behind JJ?

8. Craiger - July 16, 2012

#2 I wonder if Revolution fails that could be a test for big budget shows on TV and what that would mean for something like Star Trek on TV?

9. Craiger - July 16, 2012

AJ, maybe its where the new Khan is born? LOL.

10. Jeff & The Hamstrings - July 16, 2012

#8 I reckon it probably is – the problem with sci-fi is that you really have to have pretty substantial budgets to keep the audiences happy.

Trek has such a vast backstory and cannon that you not only have to pay for the actors, sets, props, vfx and anything else technical, but also the teams of writers, tech-dudes and bods who monitor the forums to make sure they don’t use the same forehead makeup twice in one season.

Huge, already established audiences can prove a hinderence as well as a bonus – just look what happened with Enterprise…….

11. Craiger - July 16, 2012

#10 Makes me wonder if they will just keep Trek for feature films? Unless they can only do a Trek animated series for cheap but have SFX like the Clone Wars?

12. Jeff & The Hamstrings - July 16, 2012

#11 considering what you can now do with pretty miniscule budgets and SFX, an animated or purely CG series would probably work better than live action; but having said that, If you want to have a look how to re-boot a sci fi series, just watch Battlestar Galactica which set the bar pretty f’ing high.

Wouldn’t surprise me if the studios did go down the route of BSG and do a TV movie pilot and then a series based on the reaction.

13. Emperor Mike of the Empire - July 16, 2012

#4. Your right. Take Tnt’s Falling Sky’s. Almost like a movie every week with the fx and with a great story.
J.Js show which look’s good may not make it on network T.V. Think back to show’s like The event and Flash forward. great concept with great F.X But network’s and rating’s did not like.

14. drumvan - July 16, 2012

looks interesting. will probably check it out.

i’ve kind of gotten into “falling skies” this summer. it has it’s weaknesses but overall is a good watch.

15. ados - July 16, 2012

There was a book…can’t remember the title…but the exact same premise…
I do remember that. in the book, the first month 1/3 of humanity was dead…

16. Daoud - July 16, 2012

Electricity “suddenly stopping working” is so ludicrously stupid, it’s impossible to suspend any reasonable scientific disbelief. I presume JJ doesn’t realize that flowing charge (a/k/a electricity) also causes electrons to orbit nuclei, and that if you “make electricity stop”, then all atoms fall apart? And batteries are no cop-out. Even if you blow out by EMP all capacitors and most electronics, there are plenty of things that still would work just fine: carbon-zinc batteries for example. Revolution is simply put, stupid.

17. Jeff & The Hamstrings - July 16, 2012

#16 And a warp core is more believeable?

Just because something is stupid doesn’t mean it can’t be entertaining – it’s just how you present the suspension of disbelief……

18. Tomas Gordon - July 16, 2012

#15: The book is called ‘Dies the Fire’ by S.M. Stirling. It’s an amazing series. The only thing JJ doesn’t seem to be ripping off is the fact that the laws of physics where changed as well by divine beings for their own “higher reasons.”

19. No Khan - July 16, 2012

I’m in on this show.

20. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

I am underwhelmed by Revolution. In addition to what Daoud said in #16, I can sadly say that my initial suspicion (based on the publicity photo on the first thread this series was mentioned in) appears to be correct after I’ve had a chance to watch the trailers for some time now.

10 years after the lights go out and weeds are creeping up the sides of buildings, all the main characters are dressed like they know where the last fully functioning Target store is.

Come on.

They should have their feet wrapped in burlap using tire treads for soles.

This is the second JJ show (after Undercovers) I know of that appears to be telling audiences ‘U R tho thoopid!”

21. Keachick - July 16, 2012

How did our ancestors survive before electricity? They ate cooked food, wore clothes, had blankets etc. Cooking and sewing are things a lot of people don’t do much of at all, but once the sewing machines stop working, hopefully there will be a few people about who are still skilled in the art of handsewing, knitting, crotcheting, weaving, shoe making and who will be able to pass on their skills to others… Time consuming, yes, but it also means that a good many people will still be able to wear something, enjoy a cooked meal, be reasonably warm at night.

Life will be a lot harder than what we are used to now, however a good many of our ancestors survived, otherwise few of us would be here now.

22. ados - July 16, 2012

And would not electrical brain signs also die?….yes i know is chemo-elect but still?

23. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

@ 21. Keachick – July 16, 2012

Well that’s sort of my point. They might start looking more tribal. Textiles are fairly sophisticated, and people after an electrical failure like the one this scenario presents won’t be producing any new ones for a while. So I’d expect to see characters wearing a mixture of odd clothing. Clothing patched together from found fabrics and items made from animal skins.

They shouldn’t look like they just escaped from a JC Penney catalog photo shoot.

24. Montreal_Paul - July 16, 2012

Looks good! Sounds interesting… I will have to tune in and check it out!

25. Thomas - July 16, 2012

16. Daoud & 22. Ados

Ain’t It Cool News has posted a review of the pilot from someone who saw it at SDCC. One of the talk backers pointed out that in the series, even electrochemical reactions don’t work, through the failed demonstration of a potato battery. The talk backer then pointed out that this creates the massive plot hole that everyone should technically be dead.

26. Marshall McMellon - July 16, 2012

@ #21- “… hopefully there will be a few people about who are still skilled in the art of handsewing, knitting, crotcheting, weaving, shoe making and who will be able to pass on their skills to others…”

Checked out any Renaissance Faires lately?

REVOLUTION: Rise of the Rennies

;)

27. Montreal_Paul - July 16, 2012

25. Thomas

It’s fiction. You can fault with every TV show and movie out there if you nitpick it to death. You are supposed to suspend belief and enjoy it for it’s entertainment value.

28. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

I’ll watch the pilot. It’s possible there’s more right than wrong with it. So it’s possible I’ll still like it. I thought Terra Nova was going to suck, and after seeing it I thought it wasn’t that bad.

But I do wish there was more of an effort here to make the premise seem more plausible.

I mean I totally get the “what if” aspect of the show, and it’s artistically valid to mess with the science to explore an idea like this. But I also think it’s a rare case in which you can’t set up a “what if” more plausibly.

I think the rule is that when the context is realism, do not require more suspension of disbelief from your audience than is necessary. If you can write the SAME CORE STORY by a more or less credible route, choose the more credible route.

29. ados - July 16, 2012

27…you are right…suspending reality..is wat TV is all about..the fun to watch factor..and who knows in this universe …someone can change physics

30. Zman - July 16, 2012

I have a slighly plausible explanation for electricity ceasing to function…

“Electricity” clearly still works, (brains, biological functions, etc) but what if electrical conduction in all metals was made impossible? Electrons (or holes) could not move, so there would be no current (ie no electricity). The easiest way to explain this phenomenon was that some “field” suddenly caused all metallic structures to “dimerize” but still maintain interatomic bonds. This would turn all metals into insulators or semiconductors. Either way, most powered devices would shut off.

31. Quatlo - July 16, 2012

How about all solder mysteriously turning into jello – or something like that.

32. crazydaystrom - July 16, 2012

dmduncan -

Hear! Hear! It’s always been a huge pet peeve of mine with these post-apocalyptic shows and films that the characters all walk around looking like they’re at anytime ready to stop and pose for a photo shoot. Too clean!

Sure clothes can be washed without electricity but some of those outfits seem to have been ironed. And Giancarlo Esposito’s character’s overcoat’s obviously has been dry cleaned! Maybe this’ll all be explained ‘in-story’ but that sort of thing seriously screws with my suspension of disbelief. And speaks to a lack of creative ‘boldness’ on the part of the production staff. IMHO

I’d like for a show of this type to be a success but, to quote a buddy of mine, “I got a problem with this already.” Prove me wrong. I beg you.

33. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

Look, if you just want to explore the question of what we are without our technology, then no scientific explanation is necessary at all.

But when the plot starts concerning itself with why it happened and how to fix it, then you have made a scientific problem for yourself and you have gone astray of the exploratory question.

If you want to do both, then I think it’s best to maintain plausibility as much as possible. At least if you want me as a viewer that’s what you should do. I loved Star Trek as a kid, so I buy what it does. But that doesn’t mean that my credibility charity is going to extend to every series that asks me for some, particularly when it’s a new series and I have no fond memories of it.

34. Craiger - July 16, 2012

TNT picks up Michael Bay’s The Last Ship. Is this going to be Star Trek on Earth’s Oceans?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tnt-the-last-ship-michael-bay-349617

35. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

32. crazydaystrom – July 16, 2012

Really. I can provide suspension of disbelief, and I even expect to. But my suspension of disbelief got torpedoed by how clean the main characters all looked.

Maybe I’m wrong, but it doesn’t seem that hard to me to at least dirty them up a bit. Put patches on the shirts. Tears that have been sewn. Make an EFFORT to make these guys look like they haven’t had any new factory made duds for 15 years. Because that’s what no electricity means.

If I think you are being lazy then as a viewer I am much less likely to give you anything in return. And this looks lazy to me.

Again, I could be wrong. I DO have to see it. But this is what I’m thinking based on what I’ve seen so far. So far it LOOKS rushed. I don’t care if it IS rushed. But try to make it NOT look that way.

36. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

@34: Sounds more like a variation of On the Beach. The Star Trek on the seas idea was already done on TV with Seaquest DSV. A show I’ve slowly been watching on Netflix.

37. crazydaystrom - July 16, 2012

#35 dmduncan -

Again – Hear! Hear!

And a – Yea, Brother!

38. Jack - July 16, 2012

Again with the snap decisions based on a show nobody’s seen.

39. crazydaystrom - July 16, 2012

#38. Jack -
MY opinion is based on what I did see. And I did say maybe it’ll be explained ‘in-story’. I want to be proved wrong about this.

40. Montreal_Paul - July 16, 2012

And OMG… they have this movie coming out about a man that can fly!! And they just released one where a teen aged boy was bitten by a genetically engineered spider… and developed super human abilities! I can’t believe they expect us to believe that stuff!!

41. Driver - July 16, 2012

Say goodbye to toothpaste or dental floss or toilet tissue or soap or razors or shampoo or deodorant or hot showers or Rush Limbaugh.

42. TrekMadeMeWonder - July 16, 2012

Man, Favereau and JJ? This really looks good!

I will watch.

Thanks, TM!

43. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

38. Jack – July 16, 2012

Totally unfair as I already noted that there could be more that’s right than wrong, and that I still have to see it. But some of it HAS been seen, hence the criticism. Sure, maybe blue-shirt-guy and leather-jacket-girl have a truckload of brand new blue shirts and leather jackets that they are slowly working their way through. Which would not surprise me as the explanation.

And this is not a complaint that they didn’t make it convincing. I’m a charitable and forgiving fellow. This is a complaint that they didn’t try.

Whether the complaint is TRUE or not remains to be seen. But trailers are responsible for enticing you to watch the thing they are promoting. And they can create negative impressions as well as positive ones. And the trailers did nothing to counter the first impression I got from the publicity still when that was posted here.

I will watch the Revolution PILOT because I like the collective work of the people making it (huge fan of BOTH Favreau Iron Man movies here). Not because I think it has must-see qualities.

Also, if I can’t speak my honest opinion, then I’m just a JJ Abrams yes-man-fan, which makes my opinion worthless. I’d rather post nothing than be that.

44. Mawazitus - July 16, 2012

40: I don’t believe such a comparison is helpful to your argument. You are basically arguing that since a person can suspend their disbelief in one situation, they should be able to suspend their disbelief in all situations. Different genres demand different levels of suspension of disbelief. This show certainly seems to have its foundation in a more scientific/reality based world than that of Marvel and DC comic books.

Now having said that, this new show, being science fiction, could certainly come up with some sort of basis for the “limited” effect of the electromagnetic negation. Creative writing certainly shouldn’t be curtailed by any sort of laws, even physical ones. But at some point you do have to ask if your intended audience will accept your conceits.

45. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

40. Montreal_Paul – July 16, 2012

Don’t worry, bro. Nobody is coming to pry the TV out of your hands. You are safe to watch whatever.

46. Bob Tompkins - July 16, 2012

After not buying into the premise from the very beginning, I will still watch the pilot episode.
It took awhile for Falling Skies to reach my comfort zone; however,
the explanation behind the failure of electricity had better be crystal clear and rational from the getgo. If it’s a mystery, I’ll have no patience for it.

47. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

44. Mawazitus – July 16, 2012

Thank you. Very well said and that was going to be my next point. Different genres ARE different CONTEXTS with their own senses-of-reality and their own rules.

I too viewed Revolution as shooting for a greater sense of reality than Superman or Spiderman. And at the moment it does not appear to me that they succeeded in hitting their own mark.

48. Picard's Battle Toupe - July 16, 2012

43… They are plentiful now. Face it, we’re being phased out (no pun intended) for the dipshit “I loved the JJ movie so I watched a few episodes and Wrath of Khan. Didn’t get it.” crowd. Que sura, sura.

As for Revolution, I dig it. Yeah there’s science and plot holes right from the teaser but name me one good modern sci-fi or dystopian fictional work that doesn’t. Maybe it’s the Ron Paul/Snake Plissken side of me, but unlike most “new” shows I’m looking forward to it. Then again, I also enjoyed the Sarah Conner Chronicles.

49. Basement Blogger - July 16, 2012

It’s another show with a mysterious mythology. Spent five years watching Lost and being invited by the creators with mystery heaped upon mystery. Then comes year six. They decided they weren’t interested in answering the mysteries. Not going to get burned again. Won’t be watching.

50. EAGLEMAN1969 - July 16, 2012

Anyone else notice the “evil warlord” resembles a certain overbearing politician up for reelection?

51. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

@48

There seems to be a taboo on TV about depicting reality. Even when characters get bloodied, they are skillfully bloodied.

Even when characters get their hair mussed, they have a not-a-hair-out-of-place hair-mussing.

I have had black eyes before. Your face swells. It’s not just purple coloring under the eye.

Seems that on TV you can’t depict any genuine unattractiveness.

52. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

By TV I of course mean broadcast network TV.

53. Red Dead Ryan - July 16, 2012

“Revolution” just doesn’t look all that interesting from what I saw. It’s not so much the lack of electricity idea as it is that my first impression of the characters was they didn’t seem that interesting. Of course, its really hard to gauge them based on a few clips, but all I saw was a lot of fighting and conflicts between people wearing brand new clothing.

I would hope to see groups of people coming together in less-than-ideal situations to work together for their mutual survival. I’m all for some conflict and fighting as it lends realism and drama, but if that’s all there’s going to be, then it will get boring fast.

54. Ryan - July 16, 2012

A crossbow by definition is a machine. So what’s that crossbow doing in your show? I think he misspoke.

55. Zman - July 16, 2012

I’m starting to actually hate stuff like this. Just like Lost, Prometheus, certain aspects of JJ’s Trek, Mass Effect 3, the writers are focusing on surprising the viewers with “unexpected” twists. They completely ignore the questions we want answered, and justify the endings with “oh, we wanted the fans to discuss and debate what really happened!” BS. The fans don’t discuss, they get angry.

Unexpected doesn’t mean exciting. I went to see Prometheus expecting a good movie, but it really amounted to: “Oh here’s a piece of garbage!” Unexpected, but disappointing…

I don’t know how Lindeloff keeps himself employed.

56. Daoud - July 16, 2012

@30 Zman, you’ve already worked harder than the show’s producers. Good idea…. However, it’s the sodium and potassium ions in the human body that allows muscular action. Those are metals….
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I’ve made longer comments previously about how we already had major cities, manufacturing, and steam-engine based transportation before Edison wired New York City. We had communication that moved at reasonable speed using something called… “US MAIL”. The United States was pretty nifty before electricity. There’s no reason that even if electricity stopped magically working, that we couldn’t go back to that (although, sure, it might take martial law). Revolution is still… ridiculous.
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@17 Jeff, yes, a warp drive is reasonable under Clarke’s Law: sufficiently advanced future technology would appear to be magic to us today. Good science fiction explains if needed and remains internally consistent. Revolution plans to “drag out” why electricity stops working, and the disk one of the characters is ferrying might explain why… if they can make a computer work. Unlike LOST which dragged out the “big answers” leaving us with a lame one…. Revolution appears headed towards being lame from the get-go. AICN’s review nails it.

57. dasjerm - July 16, 2012

He’s going to answer questions over the course of the series eh?

Where have I heard that line before? *cough* LOST *cough*

58. Zman - July 16, 2012

@56 Daoud

Thanks!

Also, I may not have been clear, but when I said metals I meant actual pieces of metal with atoms that are bonded together in a crystal structure, not ionized metal elements. A free ion is one thing, a crystal structure is another.

But yes, you raise good point too. Steam power? Whoops haha.

59. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

56: “There’s no reason that even if electricity stopped magically working, that we couldn’t go back to that (although, sure, it might take martial law).”

Even with that it would be hard because we would have to recreate society rather than just expanding an already existing one.

The real challenge is overcoming the effects of social collapse. And then we would have to rediscover and reinvent, since a lot of 19th century knowledge is now lost having been deemed obsolete.

Example: If you grew wheat and it came time to separate the wheat from the chaff, how would you do it without any machine?

60. Vultan - July 16, 2012

Looks interesting. I’ll probably check out the pilot at least.

If this is science fiction, then they have some big ‘splaining to do—hopefully not stretched over the entire run of the series. Not another LOST, please.

But if it’s like one of the pure fantasy episodes of the Twilight Zone, then it might work. I know Abrams is a TZ fan, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it is.

61. Barb - July 16, 2012

I think all post-apocalyptic shows are inherently cop-outs to avoid coherence, (How did we get here? Oh, yeah, all existing institutions were wiped out, ….) and since JJ Abrams is not exactly the go-to guy for coherence to begin with, this is a show I WILL NOT watch.

62. Montreal_Paul - July 16, 2012

If you want realism on TV… there are plenty of reality shows and documentaries out there for you.

63. Red Dead Ryan - July 16, 2012

#62.

No, some of us want “believability” in our shows and movies. Somethiing that suggests fantasy, yet fits within the realm of possibility.

64. Montreal_Paul - July 16, 2012

63. Red Dead Ryan

Oh yeah.. “believability” in movies… such as Star Trek & Batman & Superman… all fit within the realm of possibility. Let’s see, yup… Fringe and it’s alternate universes are believable.

Maybe I am getting this wrong so why don’t you explain which shows that YOU like are fantasy and withing the realm of possibility.

65. Montreal_Paul - July 16, 2012

*within

66. Shilliam Watner (Click for Trek Ships Poster) - July 16, 2012

I don’t think this show is pretending to be completely real. I think it’s like Lost. Favreau himself said a big mystery would be unfolding during the course of the show. That could mean something supernatural, or alien, or all kinds of things beyond and EMP or any other known phenomena.

67. Captain Karl - July 16, 2012

as far as the clothing thing goes, there were and probably still are sewing machines that operate by foot power, where you push down repeatedly on a pedal which turns a wheel that makes the bobbin & needle go up and down….just sayin’. Some shows you have to suspend disbelief, but alas, if all electrochemical reactions have ceased, the human body would simply die.

68. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

Revolution’s premise is clearly very close to actual threats that can produce very similar effects, i.e., EMP or solar flare induced geomagnetic currents.

Apparently they thought those weren’t disastrous enough scenarios. Which to me means they don’t have a proper appreciation of how disastrous those scenarios can be.

They wanted all electricity to go out instantly forever, rather than having society more slowly collapsing to a state where it could not repair itself for a very long time.

Unfortunately I don’t think the show is going to gain much by the approach they took.

You could easily have taken the more realistic approach. E.g., the lights go out. Planes fall from the sky. Society collapses.

Cut to 15 years later. Nothing is back on! The weeds and animals are taking back our cities!

Instead of nothing ever working again, the mystery of the show becomes why didn’t things get fixed? What happened after the disaster such that activity to repair everything failed?

That would still make one HUGE central mystery to solve. You don’t need to make all electrical devices nonfunctional forever, and you can still explore the idea of what we are without our technology.

You can have the mystery AND the science. It’s not a one or the other choice. If you shimmy things this way a hair instead of that way, you may get both. If you just TRY. If you CARE enough to. Which brings me back to the question of how much effort they put into this.

I’ll give it a season. If blue-shirt-guy and leather-jacket-girl are still wearing the same shiny new clothes by the end of it, I’m not coming back. If they’re phoning it in, I’m not tuning it on.

69. windelkin - July 16, 2012

I think it looks decent and I’d give it a chance. I like the ‘what if all the technology suddenly quit working’ hypothesis. Why not make a series set in that future world, however unreal? And I noticed the fancy new clothes they were all wearing, but I just laughed it off, because if that’s what I’m thinking about when I’m watching the pilot, that means the story is crap.

70. Jack - July 16, 2012

43. “Also, if I can’t speak my honest opinion, then I’m just a JJ Abrams yes-man-fan, which makes my opinion worthless. I’d rather post nothing than be that.”

What, you’re the victim? Again, an honest opinion of something you haven’t seen.

71. dmduncan - July 16, 2012

70: “What, you’re the victim? Again, an honest opinion of something you haven’t seen.”

Yeah, sure Jack. And you watched the same trailers and have no opinion, not even positive, not even that this is a show you MIGHT want to watch. In fact, if you watch it at all it will be completely by mistake…because you happened to click on the channel in passing and it was so good that you couldn’t bare to click away. I’m sure that’s exactly how it will go at your house. Because you wouldn’t dare form a tentative opinion of something you haven’t seen in total. Whether the opinion is positive or negative makes no difference. You’re still forming an “opinion of something you haven’t seen.” And that’s just not something Jack does.

Please. My honest opinion here is of something I HAVE seen, i.e, the trailers. Which are not thrilling to me, even as they ARE thrilling to others, and will be the basis of their decision to watch this show.

Yet even though my initial opinion is negative, I will still give it a chance. Just like Terranova. And if I like the show, I’ll praise it the same way I did Terranova, which I also didn’t expect to like, but did.

72. Vultan - July 16, 2012

Again, this show looks interesting. I might check it out. But that’s a big MIGHT.

Have to say these post-apocalyptic shows and movies are getting a bit tiresome. Only so much gritty, burnt landscapes and alien invasions and mankind hanging on for survival you can take before you shrug and go read a good book or walk the dog. Some Trek-style optimism about the future is more than welcome—well, for me anyway.

73. MJ - July 16, 2012

This looks pretty good actually. However, I still think this is an obvious “theft” of SM Stirling’s Dies the Fire series.

Stirling should get a lawyer.

74. ilker - July 16, 2012

I do not think anything important will come out of this. JJ’s career path will be the same as Mr. Shyamalan. I’m afraid the decline has already started.

75. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - July 17, 2012

I just got around to this article. It was nice to see JJ again, and I hope that the new show does well. My opinion based on what I saw:

Well, the production values seem to be just wonderful. The show visually looks really good. They kept mentioning the Lord of the Rings and whatnot, but the girl with the bow made me think of Katniss in the Hunger Games. I’m not sure if that’s on purpose or a coincidence. Um, I did have a similar, but far less severe, response to the main plot point as @16 did, but perhaps they’ll have an explanation as the show moves on like @30 said. I’ll give it a try.

76. Daoud - July 17, 2012

Zman, there’s simply no way to cause metals in bulk to suddenly stop having free electrons which allow electricity to conduct… without changing the very structure of the atom. You’d have to discard the Pauli Exclusion, the Aufbau, and completely lose orbitals. All of chemistry would fail. It’s the outer electrons in the transition metals especially when you enter back into the p-block that allows conduction in metals. There’s just no realistic way, without also causing all other basic chemistry to epic fail.
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@68, Dm, good points. I agree with you completely, had this just been a giant EMP effect that destroyed about every useful computer and electronic device, that in itself would have worked fine. They’d still have a societal collapse to deal with, and disruption. And it would have been even more interesting to plot how society rebuilds. But at the same time…. horses and wheels exist. And if a candle exists, I can boil water, and cause it to turn a wheel. And with magnets on the wheel and an adjacent wire, I can create electricity.
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But even without any electricity, the original Stanley Steamer could be manufactured to provide transport at the top speed of 20 mph. It’s something.
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I think in summary, there’s no way the production staff behind Revolution seriously have put in the amount of logical plotting time to create a show that really would explore the consequences. They’re just making a LOST-like soap opera with beautiful people in peril. It’s “A Bit More Desperate Housewives With Stone Knives and Bearskins”.

77. Red Dead Ryan - July 17, 2012

#72.

Yeah, I agree with you Vultan. That’s why I said I hope “Revolution” deals with people coming together to not only survive, but to rebuild their civilization into something that’s better than before. How they’d do that, and how they’d reinvent everything should be part of the story.

But I suspect the show is going to be more about one group of people defending their turf against another group. Probably one big civil war. Fighting over the scraps.

78. dmduncan - July 17, 2012

76. Daoud – July 17, 2012

Unfortunately I have to agree with you. It’s not like I don’t want to like what I’m seeing. But…help me out a little here, fellas. Why are they phoning it in like making a more plausible show is too much of a pain in the ass???

I don’t get it. What’s the downside to that alternative?

79. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - July 17, 2012

Well I wouldn’t call it Desperate Housewives. It looks like the characters are being modeled off of The Hunger Games for the girl like Katniss and perhaps the blonde boy (Peeta?), and dare I say it here, Twilight. The guy that accompanies “Katniss” looks like Taylor Lautner and seems like he’s her Jacob. Then there’s the dad from Twilight playing the uncle. The person I liked the most in the trailer is Tomin (don’t know the actor’s name, but I remember his character from SG-1), and he died.

I started to look up whether or not really scaled back or the original versions of things might still be able to work, but I think it might be good to just chalk the no electricity thing to being a plot device and move on. You’re either going to like the show if you see it or you won’t. Plus, I agree with Shilliam that there’s still a chance that there’s some unknown that will end up working well enough for the series and that will be a good enough explanation like @30 mentioned, although perhaps different from his idea. I’m still giving it a try.

80. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - July 17, 2012

You know what I’d like to see: Bikes. I would think they could still make those, and if they can, then that’s a lot cheaper and easier to upkeep than a horse. And it’s faster than just walking.

81. Zman - July 17, 2012

@76

There are TWO ways in which any metallic ceramic structure can become insulating: 1) atoms move far away enough from each other that their orbital overlap integral becomes small enough that the band structure is no longer an accurate description of the electrons (Hubbard U > bandwidth) or 2) lattice periodicity changes (atomic dimerization) so that a forbidden energy gap develops at some wavevector within the first brilloin zone, splitting a half filled band (conductor) into a filled valence band and empty conduction band (insulator or semiconductor).

Both of these situations cause itinerant electrons to become localized on their respective atoms.

Now I’ve never seen this happen in an actual metal before, only in a metallic ceramic. Of course I realize this is because it is not possible for metals under normal (or physical) circumstances…

Here’s a question: how is metallic Be possible? With two S electrons, a Be-Be bond should not exist because the four total electrons occupy 2 states, one bonding and one antibonding (talk about the pauli exclusion principle!)

82. gingerly - July 18, 2012

The only thing that felt cheesy to me was that sword-fight

I understand why, with it being 15 years later and all, but that part still took me out of it.

Glad to see Bella’s dad getting work. :) He definitely deserves to be a break-out star as he got the only genuine laugh when I saw the first film.

83. Phil Smith - July 18, 2012

How utterly unoriginal and predictable.

84. Jack - July 18, 2012

Big fan of Charlie form Twilight. So steam engines and the like work. Trains. Could combustion engines work without spark plugs? I’m trying to remember how diesel engines work. Heck, the industrial age was underway a century before electricity, wasn’t it? Interesting stuff. And guns/gunpowder would work too — or is that explained away, as well. Yes, I can’t load the trailer.

85. Daoud - July 19, 2012

Diesel engines don’t need spark plugs.

86. Daoud - July 19, 2012

@80 S/U Adm…. *excellent* point. Bicycles. Most interstate and US highways once the disabled vehicles were mostly pushed out of the way would make excellent bikeways all across the U.S. Pedalpower, the way the Chinese used to do!
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After all, the bridges and viaducts should all be intact: they don’t require electricity!
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Prediction though… they’ll always be walking through woods and fields. Bollocks.
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I think a better title now would be “Whateva-lution”.

87. Nick - July 19, 2012

Oh gee, another one. I’m sure that it’ll be filled with good looking people wearing some amazing nice clothes (for a post-apocalyptic world) who take some time out of their busy lives for some First World dramatic situations. Snooze!
We aren’t told how the electricity just suddenly ended, but are told that it won’t ever come back on. Soooooo, why should I care. It’s never going to come back on. If I want to watch people coping with a society without electricity, then I’ll watch some old Western reruns. I’m sure they are more entertaining.

88. Paunch Show Greg - July 19, 2012

I will give it a watch, to begin with. Would be funny if they revealed this was all caused by Snake Pliskin.

89. Sebastian S. - July 20, 2012

There were signs and adverts for “Revolution” all over Comic Con.
A big ‘power’ sign on the side of the Marriott, and a display at the Hard Rock across the street from the convention center itself (in the Gaslamp District of downtown San Diego). There was also a lot of promotional swag for it as well. Think my friend got some of it.

Comic Con is such a bombardment of media blitz that you really don’t absorb or process it all until you’re home and calmly looking at all of your photos a few days later….

;-D

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