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BREAKING: 9-Minute Star Trek Into Darkness Preview To Debut in IMAX 3D with Hobbit Movie November 14, 2012

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback

We have all been waiting for news on the first look at JJ Abrams Star Trek Into Darkness. And this afternoon Paramount announced that a 9-minute extended preview of the movie will premiere  on IMAX 3D on December 14th. More details below. [UPDATED] 


 

Extended Preview Of Star Trek Into Darkness Showing With Hobbit

Paramount has confirmed with TrekMovie that an extended preview of JJ Abrams 2013 feature Star Trek Into Darkness will be shown exclusively with IMAX 3D showings of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, which premieres on December 14th. This preview is similar to how the first 7 minutes of Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight Rises was shown ahead of IMAX screenings of Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol (which was produced by JJ Abrams, small world). Just like with that preview, you will have to go to the theaters to catch this first glimpse of the movie as TrekMovie has also confirmed the preview will not be shown online. 

 

press release

WORLD PREMIERE EXTENDED PREVIEW OF J. J. ABRAMS’ "STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS" TO DEBUT IN IMAX 3D ON DECEMBER 14th

THE FIRST 9-MINUTES FROM THE ANTICIPATED SEQUEL WILL BE RELEASED EXCLUSIVELY IN DIGITAL IMAX 3D THEATRES WORLDWIDE

HOLLYWOOD, CA (November 14, 2012) – Paramount Pictures will release the first 9-minutes from J.J. Abrams’ eagerly-awaited “STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS” exclusively in IMAX 3D months prior to the film’s official release in May 2013. This first-look at the movie will play in approximately 500 digital IMAX 3D theatres beginning December 14th.

“STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS,” the sequel to Abrams’ 2009 hit film that redefined the Star Trek universe for a new generation, marks the first time exclusive footage has played in IMAX 3D and only the third time a first-look will be released in IMAX.

“Our longtime partners J.J. Abrams, Bryan Burk and the Bad Robot team have really hit it out of the park – the footage is absolutely incredible," said Greg Foster, Chairman and President, IMAX Filmed Entertainment. “Their use of the IMAX® Camera and canvas is sure to impress current and future Star Trek fans alike, and we’re thrilled to once again work with our friends at Paramount Pictures to offer this extended ‘first look’ at this highly anticipated summer blockbuster.”

To further the IMAX experience, “STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS” used IMAX cameras to capture several sequences. Exclusively in IMAX theaters, sequences filmed with the extremely high-resolution cameras will expand to fill more of the screen with unprecedented crispness and clarity, putting moviegoers right into the explosive action and vast scope of the film.

“STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS” is written by Damon Lindelof, Alex Kurtzman & Roberto Orci and directed by J.J. Abrams. Abrams is producing with Bryan Burk through Bad Robot Productions, along with Lindelof, Kurtzman and Orci.

 

TrekMovie will be following up this announcement with more details as we learn them.
 

Comments

1. Bobby - November 14, 2012

Fantastic news! Cannot wait

2. Dee - lvs moon' surface - November 14, 2012

YES!!! Can’t wait!!!

;-) :-)

3. galemazuma - November 14, 2012

What movie will feature it???

4. drew - November 14, 2012

on my birthday = )

5. Son of Sarek - November 14, 2012

4 weeks away until this footage it will be all over the web! At last, now when is the TRAILER?

6. Jesse - November 14, 2012

Ok so what about a regular teaser trailer? Why just IMAX?

7. Lt. Ricky - November 14, 2012

@galemazuma The only IMAX 3D movie that comes out on Dec. 14 is “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey”…

8. Joel - November 14, 2012

WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!

9. KennyB - November 14, 2012

I just want a simple little trailer. Pleaaaase.

10. Rico - November 14, 2012

WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOO!!!! Yeah baby!

11. PEB - November 14, 2012

I was about to post this. Just read it on IGN.com! Great job Trekmovie

12. Chris Roberts - November 14, 2012

I’ve absolutely no idea how or where I’ll be able to see it… BUT nevertheless, that’s exciting news!

13. swpinsent - November 14, 2012

Sounds good…. looking forward to it.

14. mhansen0207 - November 14, 2012

Are people SERIOUSLY bitching that they’re not getting a teaser trailer yet when we’re getting the first 9 MINUTES?!

Some people are never satisfied. Sad, really.

I however CANNOT be more excited!

15. Aurore - November 14, 2012

…..What?

So soon ???

:))

16. gov - November 14, 2012

whew! bout time

17. NCM - November 14, 2012

Will I have to take the family to an IMAX movie we might not care to see, simply in hopes of catching the first 9 minutes of STID? Not sure what else is debuting on that date. Maybe it will be obvious which flick to pick.

In any case, I’m not complaining. The first nine minutes! Wow, this is a new and exciting concept. I just hope that with this 9 minutes and the trailers, there will be a lot of movie left to see and some surprises yet to be had when we finally settle in for the whole experience.

18. Dr. Cheis - November 14, 2012

So is this like paired with another movie, or do we buy tickets to go see a 9 minute preview?

19. (the real) Montreal_Paul - November 14, 2012

Sweet! I knew we’d be getting news before January. Just a matter of patience. But I won’t be going to see it… don’t want to see anything before the movie comes out. But this is great news for everyone that wants to see a lot!

20. Green-blooded Inhuman - November 14, 2012

I’m going to guess that it will be shown before The Hobbit.

21. NCM - November 14, 2012

With The Hobbit, apparently…

http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/star-trek-into-darkness-prologue-hits-imax-3d-theaters-with-hobbit/

22. Killamarshtrek - November 14, 2012

It HAS to be with ‘The Hobbit’. My interest in this film has suddenly increased enormously!

23. gov - November 14, 2012

so…is it free? is it attached to a film?

24. PEB - November 14, 2012

@17 Hopefully like #7 said, it’ll be attached to The Hobbit…and I’m sure you’ll enjoy that!

25. RoobyDoo - November 14, 2012

I wonder if the villain is named in the first 9 minutes?

26. mhansen0207 - November 14, 2012

It IS with The Hobbit:

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/11/14/star-trek-into-darkness-imax-preview/

27. NCM - November 14, 2012

You green-blooded inhuman hobgoblin! You scooped me!

28. orly - November 14, 2012

What about the UK?

29. SFC - November 14, 2012

*takes his trusty HD camera with him on Dec 14*

30. NCM - November 14, 2012

Yes, it’s with The Hobbit!! See link @ 21

31. gov - November 14, 2012

Anthony…can you confirm The Hobbit attachment?

32. Zip - November 14, 2012

Hopefully those of us without IMAX won’t have to wait too much longer…

33. George Zip - November 14, 2012

KHAAAAAAANNNNN!

Or GARRRYYYYY SEVENNNNNN!

34. Anthony Pascale - November 14, 2012

I have updated article with more details

35. Green-blooded Inhuman - November 14, 2012

@31, that’s the only major motion picture being released that weekend. For obvious reasons.

36. TrekMadeMeWonder - November 14, 2012

Question.

Is this the first time we have seen “Star trek Into Darkness” as the official title? Anywhere?

37. Kirk, James T. - November 14, 2012

@28, As far as I’m aware, if the 9 minutes is attached to the same “reel” as The Hobbit, this will also be the case for IMAX theatres in the UK(and worldwide) playing The Hobbit :)

Brilliant news

38. TrekMadeMeWonder - November 14, 2012

Everyone. Please try and remember that Trek is way bigger than IMAX.

39. Basement Blogger - November 14, 2012

Looking forward to it, if I can find an IMAX that will be showing it. I wonder if there will be a movie playing after the first nine minutes. The Hobbit opens up on that day. And it’s in IMAX. Yeah, I know those are two different studios but maybe both studios and IMAX have worked something out.

40. Curious Cadet - November 14, 2012

The Hobbit!?

Really!?

41. Basement Blogger - November 14, 2012

Oops, just refreshed the page. Thanks Anthony. It will play before The Hobbit. And tickets for that IMAX showing will be gone fast. Must find out if it will play here at the IMAX theaters in Cincinnnati.

42. Lieutenant - November 14, 2012

BEST BIRTHDAY PRESENT EVER I AM IN TEARS

HAPPY LEONARD NIMOY DAY, ALL

43. Thorny - November 14, 2012

I wish I lived closer than 3 hours from the nearest IMAX theater…

Maybe we’ll get a teaser/trailer for those of us not living in the Big City ™?

44. gov - November 14, 2012

Based on the way Nolan did it for the Dark Knight movies….does anyone know how long the preview will stay attached?

I mean…if i go on saturday….or sunday….will the preview still be attached?

45. summoner2100 - November 14, 2012

Hmm interesting. I didn’t like when they did this for Dark Knight. It ruined the reveal of Joker for the movie because I’d seen it several times by the time it came out.

I guess we’ll see what happens, I’ll probably watch it anyway =)

Does this mean a trailer will be out before hand then? It seems dumb to release footage before the trailer hits =P

46. Anthony Pascale - November 14, 2012

If you look at the update I did confirm it was with the Hobbit and I confirmed that it WILL NOT be available online. You have to see the movie in theaters. Not that seeing The Hobbit is a chore

47. Punkspocker - November 14, 2012

Sweet! Got my tics already. Im now more excited about 9 minutes than i am about 2HRS40 MIN? They give us a little Cumberbatch or i’ll be a total Cumberbitch (couldnt help it).

48. Sunfell - November 14, 2012

Wish it was RPX- we have a brand-new RPX theater, and its screen is bigger than the “IMAX”.

49. MattR - November 14, 2012

Cool. I already purchased my tickets for the Hobbit over the weekend.

BUT….I hope there’s at least a standard trailer for all non-IMAX showings as well. Just promoting the movie on the 500 IMAX screens will not get as many eyeballs on it.

50. Heyberto - November 14, 2012

Is it only on 3D? I’d prefer IMAX 2d, if that option is available

51. crazydaystrom - November 14, 2012

See Anthony returns and thing begin to happen! I’m going to ask for a raise tomorrow!

woo

hoo

!!! :-)

52. BulletInTheFace - November 14, 2012

What the hell is WRONG with you people? You’ve been bitching for a year about a lack of a preview. Instead of a preview, they’re giving us NINE MINUTES.

And yet people are still complaining?

Unbe-freakin’-lievable.

53. StelArian - November 14, 2012

He he… Hobbit was not on my to-do list!

NOW IT IS :)

54. wicketsc - November 14, 2012

52. BulletInTheFace

I was thinking the same thing. What is with all of the complaining?

55. crazydaystrom - November 14, 2012

Exactly one month from today. With all that’s on my plate between now and then the time is going to fly by. This news is like an early Festivus gift!!

56. Emperor Mike of the Empire - November 14, 2012

Looks like we will all be seeing the Hobhbit in Imax in 3D.

57. Emperor Mike of the Empire - November 14, 2012

Anthony. When you come back you come back with a HUGE Bang in the Nuclear kind. I was already looking forward to the Hobbit. Now. I simply can’t wait till the 14th.

58. Thorny - November 14, 2012

52… Well, keep in mind that to see this, many of us will have to travel a great distance. It would be a six hour round trip for me because unlike the “Iron Man 3″ trailer that went out everywhere with “Skyfall”, the STID promo is limited to only IMAX theaters. So, I’m happy for those of you who live close to an IMAX theater, but, well, I’m not driving six hours to see nine minutes of footage. A teaser trailer would have been just fine with me. Still, at least Paramount and Bad Robot are finally doing something (anything) to promote Star Trek. And that’s encouraging news.

59. Craiger - November 14, 2012

Now that they are showing this 9 min. preview why not just say who the villain is?

60. Dee - lvs moon' surface - November 14, 2012

Thanks God, the hobbit is on my list!… I hope it will be allowed on the moon… OMG!!!… lol

61. ironhyde - November 14, 2012

I got my tickets for the Hobbit 3D the day they went on sale. Going on Dec 14. So this is nice to hear. I’m excited for STID’s first NINE minutes, wow!! I still might have preferred little bits revealed spread out over time, but I ain’t gonna complain. The Hobbit is something I’ve been following and enjoying throughout production and I’m just so happy to get a little extra bonus with it. Superb.

62. Walt Kozlowski - November 14, 2012

The first nine frames!

63. Emperor Mike of the Empire - November 14, 2012

I know one thing. Trekmovie will be alive and kicking come the 14th and so on. I am sure Anthony will have a complete review of the first 9 minutes.

64. Emperor Mike of the Empire - November 14, 2012

I know they said you can’t see the first 9 minutes of Star Trek into Darkness online. But I bet you 100,000 Quatlos that someone or someting will be posting the first 9 minutes online. Any taker’s.

65. Emperor Mike of the Empire - November 14, 2012

Also. There will be a lot of people that will be diesecting the first 9 minutes of Star Trek into Darkness. It could be a lot of fun and just might get ugly with certen poeple. Lol

66. Remington Steele - November 14, 2012

It’s news about the new movie…but I STILL bet people will complain

Wah wah wah

67. Dee - lvs moon' surface - November 14, 2012

#64…. yep… Please GOD!!! ;-) :-)

68. njdss4 - November 14, 2012

I don’t like being forced into seeing a 3D movie just to see this extended preview. I don’t want to see The Hobbit in 3D, or any movie in 3D, so I guess I’ll just have to wait for the footage to be leaked online.

Maybe they’ll put this preview in regular IMAX theaters so we won’t have to wear those stupid glasses just to see the Trek preview

69. VOODOO - November 14, 2012

This is cool and all, but I’d much prefer a simple trailer.

70. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

EXACTLY AS I PREDICTED!!! Recall that on November 2nd, I posted: here:

“You all know, including my detractors, that I make some major Trek predictions from time to time that almost always turn out to be right. Here is my latest major prediction:
MJ’s PREDICTION:
This SW mega-news is gong to force JJ off the dime, and we will have some significant news on STID (at the very least, announcing the trailer release data) within two weeks from today.”

Today is 12 days from November 2nd — i.e. I nailed this prediction.

I am right once again!!!

71. DeShonn Steinblatt - November 14, 2012

Nine minutes is totally unacceptable! It should be at least ten! And with The Hobbit? Why? I don’t like short people!

72. Matias47 - November 14, 2012

I can’t watch 3D — when I focus through the lenses of the glasses my eyes cross. Same thing with binoculars. It’s wierd. So, yeah, I’m minorly annoyed. It doesn’t really seem like good mass-marketing.

Oh, well. Someone will tell me about it.

73. The Observer - November 14, 2012

So, it’s getting the same rollout treatment as “The Dark Knight Rises”.

Movie’s going to be big.

74. Max - November 14, 2012

Assuming there will be Klingons (this movie or next), you think there will be brow ridges? I say there should be.

75. Red Shirt Diaries - November 14, 2012

MJ, my goodness, you did do it again. If you were a stockbroker, I’d hire you manage my portfolio.

You seem to have an uncanny ability over time regarding all of your Trek predictions. Well done, sir!

76. Walt Kozlowski - November 14, 2012

The first eight minutes will be a field of stars set against a bombastic overture, followed by the Delta- Star Trek Logo and transporter effect!

77. Chris Doohan - November 14, 2012

I guess I’m going to see The Hobbit.

78. Greg Stamper - November 14, 2012

Congrats Anthony, way to smoke the competition.

79. Emperor Mike of the Empire - November 14, 2012

Hey Chris Doohan. How is your new Trek Series coming.

80. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@75. Thanks dude!!! My success on these predictions coming true time after time is mainly due to the combination of deduction, based on what others might see as seemingly disparate facts, thrown in with reading into the historical and current context, and also “listening to what the tea leaves” are telling me. And perhaps most importantly, I remove emotion and my own viewpoints/wishes for Trek when I come up with these predictions — that is critical to my process.

Regarding my biggest prediction of all – that “it is Khan”, which I made way back in Fall 2011, five months before Anthony’s groundbreaking story — when this prediction is verified (possible with the preview footage on Dec 14th), even my detractors on site will be grudgingly forced to admit that I am nearly always right on my major Trek predictions.

81. Chris Doohan - November 14, 2012

79

Great. We have another small vignette (my favorite) coming out early December. It’s got a lot of Scotty in it. You can see the other two at http://www.startrekcontinues.com

82. Emperor Mike of the Empire - November 14, 2012

Hey Thank’s Chris. Can’t wait to see it. Oh and by the way. You nailed the Roll of Scotty. lol Your Dad would be proud!,

83. gingerly - November 14, 2012

FINALLY!!

YES!

Thank you!!

http://www.aroundphilly.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/anchormangif.gif

84. Max - November 14, 2012

I don’t think it will be Khan or Gary Mitchell. I think JJ is letting us believe that to throw us off the scent.

85. (the real) Montreal_Paul - November 14, 2012

80. MJ (the original)

And… if you are wrong……? ;)

86. Seany-Wan - November 14, 2012

@boborci – have you heard the Dolby Atmos mix of this film? How would you describe it compared to regular 7.1?

87. gingerly - November 14, 2012

@85

He’s not wrong. Gary Mitchell appeared in the Ongoing series and was killed.

And Khan is not a white Englishman (plus he’s been done too many times before).

I believe it’s one of the leaders who was imprisoned with Khan.

88. (the real) Montreal_Paul - November 14, 2012

87. gingerly

Well I’ve stated my case about Gary Mitchell and the comics many times (Mitchell isn’t buried and crushed like the episode and it if left open.). And we all know that it won’t be Khan… or any of his henchmen. I still think it will be someone else.

89. Gibnerd - November 14, 2012

any news on a list of theaters by state yet?

90. StelArian - November 14, 2012

Hmmmm…. It’s first time I’m going to pay to see a Star Trek preview!!!! I don’t like that. And I don’t want to see The Hobbit.

Anyway… Star Trek is property of someone, so the only thing I can do is complain about!

I guess I’m lucky to have an IMAX nearby.

LLAP \\//

91. I'm a trekkie NOT a trekker - November 14, 2012

@5 We finally are gonna get a taste of the new movie and STILL somebody whines!!!! GO GET A LIFE, TREKKERS!!!!!

92. milojthatch - November 14, 2012

*IF* I see “The Hobbit” on IMAX, I’ll make sure to catch this. If I don’t like the 9 minutes, there goes any chance of me giving JJ-Trek a liking. The first film burned to many bridges, so ‘m not hopeful that this film will suddenly be better.

93. TrekMadeMeWonder - November 14, 2012

Anthony loves this news.

I think he actually loves reading all of our postings.

Think about it. With nine minutes of footage being scene by select TrekMovie regulars and with no teaser or preview online, this blog will be FULL of online rants trying to decern exactly what happened.

Those Hobbit makers must be insane to let Trek upstage thier quiet little movie.

94. Sxottlan - November 14, 2012

14 & 52: I myself am a little confounded by this trend of showing opening sequences of tent pole films long before they open. There is an IMAX theater near me, but I would never considering going to see this.

For me, if you want to tease it, just make a trailer. I don’t get why people would want to see the opening without the rest of the film. To me that is not a tease. That’s just torture. ;) Seriously, I have had dreams before I see big movies that I’m anticipating where I sit down in the theater and problems develop or the movie doesn’t play right or I only see a little bit before something goes wrong.

Not to mention people who see the sequence will just go online and blab about it and four months later everyone will assume they can spoil away the opening.

Sure that’s a minor complaint. I’m pretty good about avoiding the right forums, but still…

95. TrekMadeMeWonder - November 14, 2012

How are you suppossed to be quiet for the Hobbit after a ten minute Trek trailer?

96. Ahmed - November 14, 2012

Any idea if they will show that in Canada as well ?

97. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@88 “And we all know that it won’t be Khan.”

Montreal Paul, my goodness, the hubris involved by you in making such a comment is impressive, even by my standards! ;-)

One of us is going to have egg on their faces next month, and dude, it is not going to be me.

98. trekkie - November 14, 2012

No IMAX within 2 hours of me. Looks like I’ll be forking out major cash for gas and stupidly expensive IMAX tickets. The things I do for Trek!

99. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@94. Sheesh, what a lame bunch of bitching and complaining. We finally have a decent preview of the movie. Stop whining like a spoiled child about it.

100. trekkie - November 14, 2012

MJ let me guess, there’s an IMAX right around the corner from you…

101. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@100 Actually, the nearest IMAX is 90 miles from me. Whatever, “Road Trip” it will have to be then. May not be able to see if though until Saturday the 16th given work and all though.

I assume the IMAX 3D version of IMAX will be the high-tech 48 FPS version, right? — does anyone know that.? That would suck if it were not so, as I would want to kill two birds with one stone here on my road trip.

102. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

In my post above, I mean to refer to “the IMAX 3D version of The Hobbit will be in the 48 FPS…..”

103. Billiam - November 14, 2012

Imax is like 20 bucks a ticket. Pass.

104. gov - November 14, 2012

can anybody answer my query from post #44????

105. Sxottlan - November 14, 2012

99: It’s not a preview. It’s the first nine minutes of the film. Without the rest of the movie, what’s the point?

I’m just saying it’s not my thing. How is that spoiled?

106. CmdrR - November 14, 2012

…TrekMovie has also confirmed the preview will not be shown online.

…until at least 10 minutes after the first showing of The Hobbit begins.

btw — Welcome back, Anthony. Thanks for bringing news.

107. Jonboc - November 14, 2012

#97 “One of us is going to have egg on their faces next month, and dude, it is not going to be me.”

I predict that the 9 minutes shown aren’t going to verify anyone’s suspicion. JJ isn’t letting that cat out of the bag…not yet.

Also, it’s good to see you back AP, this is good news indeed. I’ll be there.

108. (the real) Montreal_Paul - November 14, 2012

97. MJ (the original)

We’ll see, my friend, we’ll see. :) But we will have to settle up after the movie opens… I plan on staying away from all the website spoilers for as long as I can. And I am hoping that there won’t be any trailers in the movies I see up to premiere date. I want to go into the theatre with my popcorn and Dr. Pepper and be surprised by everything I see.

109. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@104. It better be playing through that weekend; otherwise, I will not make the road trip.

@105. JJ and company are finally giving us something major to preview the movie by. We shouldn’t be complaining about it, we should be thanking them for finally getting their procrastinating butts off the dime.

110. RoadSiren21 - November 14, 2012

just to clarify, its 9 minutes, not 9 frames? :p
but seriously, I’m excited for this. and I’m lucky that I live just less than 350 meters away from an imax theatre (inside a mall). I’m not really into LOTR stuff. In fact I never watched or read a single one. but for STID, I’ll watch it.

the things I do for trek… :)

111. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@108. If that is your plan, that you probably want to stop coming to this site effective December 14th, as you know people will be posting about what they saw in the 9-minute preview. It will be just like seeing the preview after you read enough comments here on it.

112. Mad Man - November 14, 2012

Cool! Now I know I can be nine minutes late to The Hobbit!

I have no desire to see one minute of STID, let alone nine.

113. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@100 “I’m not really into LOTR stuff. In fact I never watched or read a single one.”

Stupid question, but if you never even bothered to see one of the LOTR films, or read the books, how do you know you would not be into it\?

I generally don’t like fantasy myself and prefer sf, but the LOTR trilogy is exceptional and unforgettable great film-making.

114. (the real) Montreal_Paul - November 14, 2012

111. MJ (the original)

I plan to. Especially after a couple of idiots posting Bond spoilers on here. Idiots. So, yeah, as of December 14th… I will be off this site for a few months. As well as all the other Trek sites and boards.

115. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@112. Wow, I am surprised you even spent the time to read this article then and post here given you supposedly could care less about STID?

Thank goodness for us you did though, as imparting your wisdom here to all of us is really critical for all the Trek fans here reading your post, I am sure.

LOL

116. Nolan - November 14, 2012

I’m going to see the imax 10pm screening of the hobbit on the 13th, anyone know if the 9 minutes with be attached to it?

117. izmunuti - November 14, 2012

Hail, hail, fire and snow, to The Hobbit, we will go, far away, for to see, Into Darkness come to me!

118. izmunuti - November 14, 2012

Worst episode. Ever.

119. chrisfawkes.com - November 14, 2012

The Hobbit does not come out in Australia until the 26th.

Bum!

120. Max - November 14, 2012

119: Yeah but we can hop across the ditch to catch it first in New Zealand

121. RoadSiren21 - November 14, 2012

@113

You’re right I wouldn’t know if I’ll get into it when I watch it.

but then again, I always keep an open mind on everything I see, hear or do. don’t get me wrong, I asked people, researched about it before. but it didn’t really piqued my interest. so I just moved on. who
knows, I might give it a second look after watching the hobbit. if it still haven’t roused my interest, at least I was able to help the producers and cinema owner with their business. :)

122. Lil' Shat - November 14, 2012

I think I’ll go see The Hobbit in my normal, local theater and pay a relatively sane amount of cash for the privilege. I’ll see the normal, regular trailers for Star Trek Into Darkness as they come out and arrive on YouTube. Then, I’ll go see Star Trek Into Darkness in my normal, local theater and pay a relatively sane amount of cash for the privilege, and I’ll see the first nine minutes of the movie there for the first time.

I’m not about to follow this insane marketing scheme like a lemming.

123. I'm Dead Jim! - November 14, 2012

If it’s anything like the first nine minutes of the last film, it will be the best part of the whole movie!

124. Hat Rick - November 14, 2012

The good news continues. Finally — a theatrical preview!

It seems now that the trailer is worthy of the wait.

125. NCM - November 14, 2012

First I hoped I wouldn’t have to pay to see a movie I didn’t want to see for access to 9 minutes. Now I’m thinking my mind will be so caught up in the nine minutes, I won’t want to see any other movie for days.

126. NCM - November 14, 2012

@117. izmunuti – November 14, 2012

Hail, hail, fire and snow, to The Hobbit, we will go, far away, for to see, Into Darkness come to me!

Well said:)

127. NCM - November 14, 2012

@115. MJ (the original) – November 14, 2012

@112. Wow, I am surprised you even spent the time to read this article then and post here given you supposedly could care less about STID?

A Mad Man has no reason, MJ; why would you be surprised?

128. Max - November 14, 2012

KLINGONS! JJ universe. Ridges/no ridges: Thoughts?

129. Phil - November 14, 2012

Oh, it would be so freakin funny if the opening credit sequence was 8:45 minutes long….or three frames played over and over….

130. Commodore Adams - November 14, 2012

Over 500 theatres, I would assume its being played in Canadian Imax theatres as well, the home of imax….your welcome :)

131. Trekboi - November 14, 2012

I’m not going all the way to the Imax & paying to see the Hobitt just to see this,

Why the F*%k can’t they have just given us a teaser trailer already, like the beautyful “Under Construction” one I paid for “Cloverfield” to see & they didn’t even show it with the film.

Not falling for that trick again.

I don’t want to see the start of the film – a full 9 minutes- a 10th of the film then wait 5+ months for the rest of the film?

Give Us a real trailer telling us what this film actually is.
This 9 minutes could be a totally unrelated prologue just there to front load the film with action before the real mission starts.

UGHHHHH I hate JJ

I wish he had just been patient, skipped rapeing star trek & did the Star Wars reboot instead.

132. Shilliam Watner (Click Name for Trek Poster) - November 14, 2012

People can soon stop complaining about not having seen any preview. Then they can start complaining about what they saw, or didn’t see, in this preview.

133. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@131. Sheesh, and some people think I am a malcontent here.

There are a lot of very, very spoiled little infants on this site.

134. K-7 - November 14, 2012

Oh, come on, Trekboi, are you really using the term “raping” AGAIN in regards to JJ Trek? That is just inexcusable and degenerate.

You embarrass yourself, and all of us with you, Trekboi.

Grow up!

135. Legate Damar - November 14, 2012

Just when I thought I couldn’t be any more excited for the Hobbit.

136. dmduncan - November 14, 2012

The Hobbit. Imax. 3D. December 14th.

I’ll be there.

137. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - November 14, 2012

A few weeks ago we couldn’t know the name of the movie and now we get nine minutes. Sure. Why not?

138. Nony - November 14, 2012

My stomach/eyes sadly can’t handle IMAX 3D very well…I might pony up depending on what’s *in* the preview, though I wasn’t planning on seeing The Hobbit. If McCoy is in those nine minutes, I’ll be there, since he’s my fave and I’ve missed him. If he isn’t, I think I’ll be content to wait for the actual movie.

139. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - November 14, 2012

Welcome back Anthony!

140. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@139. Well your in luck, as I’m told the first nine minutes of the STID film is “the McCoy origin story” which was originally going to be included in Trek 2009, but got cut out to get the movie down below 2 hours long.

141. Caganer - November 14, 2012

Boy, that “STID” acronym is really unfortunate, innit?

I think that hyphen suddenly makes a lot more sense. ST:ID doesn’t read like something you’d have to visit McCoy to clear up.

142. M.J. (Mark James Tucker) - November 14, 2012

So i guess I have to PAY to go see the Hobbit now.
really have no desire to see The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings trilogy was very overated in my opinon. And I was a fan of the books in middle school.

But it is what it is. and I also ask where is the regular Teaser trailer or Trailer A for those who dont have a IMAX theatre that will be showing it near them, or for people who really just have no desire to see the Hobbit letter boxed on the IMAX screen. (the movie was shot in scope its not going to fill the screen.)

I do find it funny that after all the we dont want to give away to much, they decide to show the first 9 mins of the movie.

143. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

Yea, it does sound like something you’d catch after spending a week at the all-inclusive Hedonism-23 resort on Orion. LOL

144. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@142. “Lord of the Rings trilogy was very overrated .”

My Tucker, what an absolute and TOTAL SHOCK it is to learn that is your opinion on the LOTR trilogy of movies. I am completely taken aback and dumbfounded THAT YOU would have this opinion of LOTR?

145. M.J. (Mark James Tucker) - November 14, 2012

MJ its my opinon of that trilogy, you dont have to agree with it, many do not. But its mine and Ive stuck with it for a number of years now.

You dont know me, really you dont, so dont try to act like you do.
You have no idea what my taste in films is.

And I will ask you again to please just ignore my posts because, I really dont like conversing with you.
Thank you

146. DJT - November 14, 2012

It’s about [expletive deleted] time.

147. Roddenberry Worshipper - November 14, 2012

I know I’m going to echo some if not all the sentiments of those who have already posted to this thread. But here are my thoughts on the subject. Take it or leave it.

Do I want to see The Hobbit? No. Do I want to see the first nine minutes of the new Star Trek movie? Yes. But I’m not going to waste my money on a movie I don’t want to see so I can see several minutes of a movie that I’m going to have to wait several more months to see the rest of. Plus I don’t have an IMAX theater in my hometown. The closest IMAX theater for me is about 45 minutes away. I’m not wasting the money on gas to drive to that theater to see those few precious minutes of footage. Poor marketing concept. I wonder what the big bird in the sky Mr. Gene Roddenberry would think of these sort of tactics from those currently inheriting this precious member of the Roddenberry family that is Star Trek. His vision was so that ALL could benefit not just some. Remember it’s not just about money here…you have generations of fans who have kept the franchise alive and thriving who see Star Trek as a means of escaping the harshness of reality for a few hours while watching what could be mankind’s possible future if we put such things as greed and one’s lust for money aside for the greater good. J.J. and company?…take that piece of advice and use it toward future marketing ideas because this latest idea is pure shit compared to what Gene Roddeberry would’ve done. Mr. Roddenberry would’ve made it so EVERYONE could see this small preview somehow someway. Just remember J.J….the more people you alienate to the point where they won’t see the movie at all the fewer lens flare there’ll be for the next Star Trek movie because the budget won’t be there for all those lens flares.

Thank you for your time. Live Long And Prosper.

148. M.J. (Mark James Tucker) - November 14, 2012

Perhaps Paramount will do an advanced fan screening of the sequence, like WB did with Dark Knight Rises, and Sony did with Amazing Spiderman
fingers crossed, would love to not have to pay and see a movie I have no desire to see just to watch the star trek footage.

149. M.J. (Mark James Tucker) - November 14, 2012

And Fox did with Promethus and Avatar. Great way to build up interest with the fanbase and not force them to have to pay for a movie they dont want to see

150. Anthony Thompson - November 14, 2012

9 minutes is TOO MUCH! In my opinion, anyway. But that won’t be a problem or temptation for me, because I can’t see 3D cinema w/ my eyes regardless.

151. K-7 - November 14, 2012

@145 M.J. (Mark James Tucker), you simply can’t dictate terms of conversation to people here. If you are going to say provocative things like “the Lord of the Rings is overated”, then don’t feign like you are supposedly so surprised when people respond with disagreement to you.

And as a general principle, everyone should be able to respond to anyone they want to on these boards. No one should be abel to bully anyone into not feeling comfortable responding to them just because they don’t like what that person is saying. I believe that was tried once — it was called the Soviet Union.

152. K-7 - November 14, 2012

@147. OK, got it, M.J. (Mark James Tucker), …whoops, I mean “Rodenberry Worshipper.”

153. Jack - November 14, 2012

Terrific news.

154. Anthony Thompson - November 14, 2012

80. MJ (the original)

Business deals like this don’t get done in 12 days. Just sayin’. : )

155. enterprise1965 - November 14, 2012

So we have to shell out $15 bucks just to see 9 minutes and hopefully of the opening sequence and not any major part of the movie because I’d rather wait to see the whole movie and all the meat and potatoes of the film. Our appitites will be so wet. I can’t wait.

156. Red Shirt Diaries - November 14, 2012

Anthony T, you’d be surprised how fast some deals in Hollywood can come together, especially with parties who have a historically great and close working relationship like JJ and IMAX. It is more than possible that the Star Wars announcment two weeks ago was the impetius to make this deal happen. Of course, JJ or the parties involved are never going to admit that, and would probably claim ohterwise to avoid embarassment.

157. Anthony Thompson - November 14, 2012

106. CmdrR

Will we have to wear 3D glasses while we watch it on YouTube? Or will you be converting into 2D for us, genius? lol.

158. Red Dead Ryan - November 14, 2012

Can’t believe the number of people complaining about a nine-minute preview. I also can’t understand how anyone can legitimately claim how the “Lord Of The Rings” trilogy is somehow “overrated”. I mean, c’mon, that line of thinking is just asinine.

I myself was looking forward to “The Hobbit”. Even more so now with the “Star Trek Into Darkness” nine minute preview.

BTW, I just saw “Skyfall”. Great Bond movie. Sam Mendez gave a lot of depth to both Bond and M. Great action sequences.

The only thing I wasn’t a fan of was the villain. I thought he was annoying. Just another disgruntled former agent with a grudge against his former boss. Javier Bardem was fine, but his character was overhyped, I thought.

“Skyfall” was a massive improvement over “Quantum Of Solace”, though not quite as good as “Casino Royale”. Still, its a must see.

159. Sebi - November 14, 2012

Great to hear that there will be a preview similar to TDKR. It’s a shame that there is no IMAX cinema where I live. They even closed the IMAX in Munich, which is an hour drive from where I live, a few years ago.

Since it seems to be in 3D, I don’t think it will be on youtube neither.

So a simple trailer would be much appreciated….

And Anthony: Glad that you are back!

160. Max - November 14, 2012

I’m in Sydney, worlds biggest IMax 5 minutes away! Whoo hoo!!!

161. Bucky - November 14, 2012

here in Canada, we don’t get the IMAX preview footage, at least we didn’t with Dark Knight Rises infront of whatever. I’m fine with not getting it, but if that’s all that’s released without a proper trailer, that’s gonna be silly.

162. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@145 “You dont know me, really you dont, so dont try to act like you do.
You have no idea what my taste in films is.”

Sure I do. You love Enterprise and think the LOTR movies are overrated. That kind of says it all, dude. ;-)

PS: I know I am a habitual fast typer and make a lot of spelling errors and typos here, but dude, spelling “don’t” without the apostrophe three fracking times in one sentence? Come on, man, at least try to type English please.

163. JRT! - November 14, 2012

Chris Doohan-are you not in the new movie? Was hoping you would be!

Anything will turn up on youtube,even 3D. Didn’t say it’d be good quality though,lol! So I guess I’ll have to wait for it to show up there or somewhere else online,as it always does,as I have no intention whatsoever of seeing that Hobbit movie in any form or shape. Sorry,but I was bored with those other three movies about that ring,lol! Give me a good camera and I can make a ten hour trilogy of people hiking in gorgeous looking New Zealand,LOL!

Have fun y’all!

J-R!

164. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@158 “I also can’t understand how anyone can legitimately claim how the “Lord Of The Rings” trilogy is somehow “overrated”. I mean, c’mon, that line of thinking is just asinine.”

Agreed, RDR. I can see how the material/fantasy genre may not be some Trek fan’s cup of tea, but to say it is “overated” is just plain wrong, and an insult to anyone who appreciated great epic film-making. So yea, I take offense to that, and I’m not backing off one bit, despite the attempts to bully me into shutting up.

165. MJ (the original) - November 14, 2012

@151 “And as a general principle, everyone should be able to respond to anyone they want to on these boards. No one should be abel to bully anyone into not feeling comfortable responding to them just because they don’t like what that person is saying. I believe that was tried once — it was called the Soviet Union.”

Yes — thank you!

166. 750 Mang - November 14, 2012

The lens flare will come right at you!

167. Red Dead Ryan - November 14, 2012

Also, Trekboi’s assertion that J.J Abrams is somehow “rapeing” “Star Trek” is so offensive and absurd to the Nth degree. He also added an “e” where none is supposed to be. I mean, c’mon, at least try to spell correctly when putting your foot in your mouth!

168. Devon - November 14, 2012

A couple of things for some of you to understand…

One thing that you should understand is that “Star Trek Into Darkness” is also being released in IMAX3D. The Hobbit is the only HUGE film coming out soon in the same compatible format. Therefore….
OBVIOUSLY the IMAX3D chains want people to come back to experience their theater and their experience.
OBVIOUSLY Paramount wants to showcase how their film will look and sound in said format, so what other way are they going to do it?
OBVIOUSLY there is going to be a regular trailer released at some point.

There is absolutely *nothing* that you can use as an argument against it as one IMAX3D film is being promoted in front of another IMAX3D film. It’s, with all due respect, absolutely insanely foolish to argue otherwise.

169. Trekboi - November 14, 2012

Btw “K – 7″ as a rape victim I reserve the right to use that term whenever something makes me feel as violated as the act itself- and many people feel JJ has violated gene’s trek with his dumbed-down, shallow, action orientated, lense-flare Star Wars style.

I just want a preview giving some idea what they are doing to Trek this time not some lame attempt to copy the marketing stratagy & success of The Dark Knight- like the lame title.

I smell a disaster on the scale of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.

170. Trekboi - November 14, 2012

I hope I’m wrong but I’m preparing for the worst.

171. Trekboi - November 14, 2012

I go backwards & forwards sometimes I feel JJ added something to Star trek, other times I feel he just F*%ked it up.

There are times when I get excited by the idea of a new film then I remember the shame & embarassment I felt leaving Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen…

172. Anthony Thompson - November 14, 2012

169. Trekboi

By your way of reasoning, you were a rape victim after watching JJ’s “Star Trek”. Right?

173. Gary S. - November 14, 2012

I wont see the 9 minute, that is too much.
I skipped the TDKR IMAX footage too.
But, this means a trailer is coming.
I look forward to that.
Congrats Anthony , GREAT Scoop!

174. Trekboi - November 14, 2012

The more I think about it, metaphorically, I do feel Paramount & JJ raped Star Trek- without Gene, Star Trek belongs to the fans & nobody asked us for consent before JJ inserted his “vision”
Many of those Original fans, some who kept Star Trek alive through the 70’s & into TNG then after Gene died & Berman drained the colour out of it feel Violated.

175. M.J. (Mark James Tucker) - November 14, 2012

155 be glad you dont have to shell out 19 dollars like we do here in L.A. for IMAX

176. Trekboi - November 14, 2012

Anthony Thompson, I am speaking liereally & metaphorically.

as an actual rape victim, I feel by surviving it I have the right to use the term whenever I feel it is appropriate to me & no one can tell me I can’t use “That” word or don’t know what I’m talking about.

177. John - November 14, 2012

Sooo Excited :)

178. Trekboi - November 14, 2012

Literally & metaphorically.

(for the Grammer Nazis who think finding a spelling mistake discredits the argument)

179. Max - November 14, 2012

I think Paramount would disagree with you over who owns Trek

180. Anthony Thompson - November 14, 2012

178. trekboi

Grammar.

181. Anthony Thompson - November 15, 2012

176. trekboi

“as an actual rape victim, I feel by surviving it I have the right to use the term whenever I feel it is appropriate to me & no one can tell me I can’t use “That” word or don’t know what I’m talking about.”.

You mean like how black people are entitled to use the n-word and Jewish folks can joke about Jews but anyone else would be anti-semitic? Don’t buy your argument.

182. M.J. (Mark James Tucker) - November 15, 2012

151 funny you should say that since your part of the trio of people on here who bully people more than anyone else.
It sure was nice not having to deal with you the last 5 days or so on here.

Fine if he (and you for that matter) want to respond to my posts, when i have made it clear I do not like talking to any of the 3 of you.
go ahead, just no its going to be a pretty one sided conversation on your end. as of right now 11;59 pm 11/14/2012 I am not responding to another post, made by you MJ or Red Dead.

183. Jack - November 15, 2012

90. When have you ever seen a 9-minute Star Trek preview before? We’re not talking trailer here, but a full scene from the movie.

Anybody remember if the TDKR clip attached to MI:4 in IMAX also included a standard TDKR trailer? Or was that trailer released later.

I have to say — I’m not a big fan of these previews… and, yeah, 9 minute seems like a lot

. I’d rather see the movie cold. So, we’ll see if I have the willpower not to go see the Hobbit in IMAX solely to see this preview.

184. Jack - November 15, 2012

158. “The only thing I wasn’t a fan of was the villain. I thought he was annoying. Just another disgruntled former agent with a grudge against his former boss. Javier Bardem was fine, but his character was overhyped, I thought.”

Agreed.

185. Sxottlan - November 15, 2012

131: You can call movie theaters and ask what previews are before which screenings. I do that regularly. Just last week I called them up and asked if Iron Man 3’s trailer would be in front of the screening of Skyfall I was going to. Turned out it was, so it was nice to be guaranteed that it would be there.

One time I called ahead and the manager put the trailer for The Hobbit in front of Prometheus just because I asked.

186. Toonloon - November 15, 2012

There’s an interesting point here that people are missing: What is better? The first few mintures of the movie or a trailer?

At first I was pretty pissed that it’s going to be 9 minutes attached to another film, but after thinking about it, there’ll be more spoilers in a trailer than the first 9 minutes as a trailer covers most of the movie.

Hmmm….

Not sure how I feel about this. The one thing I am not feeling is excited. I guess my excitement has faded after all this time. Hopefully a trailer will restore that.

187. Toonloon - November 15, 2012

@ 52. To be fair, we’ve waited an awful long time for this and as MJ rightfully pointed out, they’ve had their hand forced by the Lucasfilm sale. They probably don’t have enough post production done to complete a trailer which means they had to get out what they could. That doesn’t bode well when you’ve had years to deliver and all of a sudden you have to rush for two weeks to get something out.

Also, not everyone has access to IMAX theatres and not everyone wants to, or can afford to, see The Hobbit in IMAX.

I think for those reasons, the fans who are unhappy here have every right to be.

I don’t care either way. As I said above, I’ll wait for a trailer to rekindle my enthusiasm.

P.S. Welcome back Anthony.

188. JRT! - November 15, 2012

You mean four weeks,right? December 14th is just under four weeks away so they have plenty of time for SOMEthing,lol!

J-R!

189. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@182. “Fine if he (and you for that matter) want to respond to my posts.”

That you Tucker for retracting the implied bullying threat. I will continue to respond to your posts if they include crap like slamming The Lord of Rings or providing other similar buffoonish comments. If you don’t want to respond, so much the better, as there is likely not a cogent defense that you could come up with for such outlandish remarks anyway.

So I certainly appreciate your position that you will not respond to us given how “convenient” that makes it for not having to defend some of your crackpot statements. I get it!

190. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@187 “@ 52. To be fair, we’ve waited an awful long time for this and as MJ rightfully pointed out, they’ve had their hand forced by the Lucasfilm sale. They probably don’t have enough post production done to complete a trailer which means they had to get out what they could. That doesn’t bode well when you’ve had years to deliver and all of a sudden you have to rush for two weeks to get something out.”

Exactly! This is the best solution they could come up with given the urgent need to respond to Star Wars taking up all of the sf genre news space. My guess is they were planning to wait until the Superbowl to release the trailer, but this forced their hands earlier, and production on a trailer had not even started yet, but editing and special effects on the first part of the film was complete, so that makes more sense for them.

Thanks you George Lucas for the shock therapy for JJ here — I really appreciate it!

191. Nick - November 15, 2012

thanks for the story anthony.

192. Chris H - November 15, 2012

Jeez – the egos on here……

193. chrisfawkes.com - November 15, 2012

@120. I was in the Hobbit Shire over there just last week. I guess i could shoot over just for that.

194. Devon - November 15, 2012

“My guess is they were planning to wait until the Superbowl to release the trailer, but this forced their hands earlier”

Things like this are not slapped together at the last minute or on a whim. J.J. already promised a trailer by the end of the year *before* the Disney/Lucasfilm deal was announced (in fact as recent as a few days before the announcement.)

I promise you guys, the Star Wars announcement had nothing to do with this.

195. The Snob - November 15, 2012

Does anyone know if this also goes for the International release of The Hobbit..? I live in Holland… What are my chances of catching this preview with screenings here..? Anyone know..?

196. Disinvited - November 15, 2012

#179. Max – November 14, 2012

CBS Studios Inc. owns STAR TREK so it doesn’t matter much what Paramount or anyone else thinks, for that matter. However, history and fandom note that it exists today because it became something more than a mere economic unit to be exploited in the 1960s.

197. Disinvited - November 15, 2012

#194. Devon – November 15, 2012

Unfortunately for your point, many have been enlightened by the movie ARGO.

198. DJT - November 15, 2012

Ah, something to look forward to before TEOTWAWKI.

Thank you, JJ.

199. crazydaystrom - November 15, 2012

JJ, Bad Robot, Paramount, CBS, Anthony Pascale and trekmovie.com are all ‘damned if they do, and damned if they don’t’. No matter what, it’s too much and/or not enough. I know you can’t please all of the people all of the time but, damn! It’s enough to drive aperson crazy, if they’re not already ahead of THAT game. The wonderful/horrible creators of Trek and this website are in unenviable positions. And yet somehow I envy them.

?

200. Philippe Drouin - November 15, 2012

Bad idea. Either way I won’t go see that because I don’t want to see the first 9 minutes of the movie, I want to see a teaser trailer and then a full trailer and then the full movie

201. Randall Williams - November 15, 2012

@195. Call the manager of your IMAX 3D Theatre with your inquiry.

@194. JJ said earlier this month that we will see something from STID
“before the end of the year”; Superbowl is in January, correct?

I believe JJ had the idea to place the 9 minute preview of STID prior to
“The Hobbit” being shown to promote the IMAX 3D “experience” both as
a marketing ploy and because Paramount wanted him to.

My eyes cannot handle 3D movies due to a optical misalignment which is
too expensive for me to correct surgically, so I will not be going to see the
film in IMAX 3D. Hopefully, Mr. Orci can tell us if there will be a version
for the “visually impaired” to watch in boorish traditional format?

202. porthoses bitch - November 15, 2012

Great… sadly no 3d imax here…worst part is if its in 3d imax no one can really make a decent boootleg of it..but hell. If it was playing locally id catch it watching it thru a fence at a matinee at the drive in.

203. crazydaystrom - November 15, 2012

Why in the world would my post be deleted? Iit was ONLY sympathetic to Trek creators.

hhmmm ok

204. crazydaystrom - November 15, 2012

Oh, sorry. Nevermind. *embarrassed*

205. Ciaran - November 15, 2012

God-dammit!!! I swear to God, Northern Ireland NEEDS an IMAX cinema immediately!!

206. crazydaystrom - November 15, 2012

And it’s gone again. Darned peculiar.

207. JRT! - November 15, 2012

No IMAX theaters in thsi country AT ALL! So I have to watch a crappy quailty version online if I wanna see it,which I do,lol! Yeah,with it being 3D the quality from a bootleg will probably be REALLY bad,but that’s how it goes when that’s all they’re releasing I guess.

J-R!

208. Calastir - November 15, 2012

JJ was clam shut up about the movie, laughing at Trekkies when he threw the infamously ‘3 frames’ online and now he’s going to actually show 9 minutes of Trek to Hobbit-fans but leave us without so much as a teaser trailer?

Ugh. Talk about crapping on your fanbase.

And some Trekkers apparently suffering from Stockholm syndrome in here, actually seem to like being treated like this!

209. StelArian - November 15, 2012

@183: It’s not nice of Paramount in the ethical point of view. Not all fans have access to IMAX screens. Also there is not a singe info for the move besides the title. No trailer. No poster. No nothing. They force hard core fans. Not nice.

210. BulletInTheFace - November 15, 2012

Unbelievable, people. I honestly think that Abrams could offer to personally bring the film to every fan’s house and cook a lobster dinner for you while you watch the film on a 200-inch TV, accompanied by the three Orion slave girls from Enterprise, and many of you would STILL find a reason to complain about it. It’s unbelievable how negative and angry some of you are determined to be, even when a good thing comes along. What’s with all the hyperbole? Crapping on the fanbase? Puh-leeze. He’s giving us nine minutes of the movie, for crying out loud. And it WILL be online the next day, regardless of what Paramount says, so all of you complaining about having to go see The Hobbit in order to watch Trek are being melodramatic–if you don’t want to see The Hobbit, just wait a day and watch the Trek segment at one of the hundreds of Web sites that will absolutely be posting it. If you choose to spend the money when there’s no need to, then you have no one to blame for that but yourself. It’s no wonder Trek fans are so widely lambasted by non-fans, given how some of you folks present yourselves on this forum.

211. Cygnus-X1 - November 15, 2012

I just that hope more creativity went into the script than went into the title.

Hey, let’s make a dark sequel to Star Trek. What’ll we call it?

Let’s call it “Dark Star Trek.”

No, that’s too obvious and literal. How about…

“Star Trek Into Darkness.” Brilliant.

Hey Supreme Court Star Trek writers….

There’s this thing call “metaphor.” It makes fiction writing more interesting and meaningful. Look into it.

Maybe then you won’t call the uplifting third movie, “Star Trek Into Hope and Optimism.”

212. Classy M - November 15, 2012

There’s no IMAX in Southern Ireland either. I’m surprised there’s not a greater attempt being made to reach the market outside the US.

On the other hand, I’m delighted we’re getting something at last. Even if I don’t get to see the 9 minute clip, I’ve no doubt I’ll hear about it.

In the meantime, I take some heart from this tweet from Simon Pegg in response to Empire Magazine’s query about showings in the UK:

‏@simonpegg
*Knowing smile* RT @empiremagazine 9 mins of Star Trek will play before The Hobbit in the US. http://bit.ly/W8nduZ No word on a UK plan yet.

213. Hugh Hoyland - November 15, 2012

Great news all the way around since The Hobbit has been on my to see list since it was announced! This is icing on the cake. :]

214. Trekker5 - November 15, 2012

Oh My God!!!! I can not wait for this!!!! :D

215. Calastir - November 15, 2012

@209
LOL! Now that’d be the day! I hope JJ is taking notes. :-)

216. Ciaran - November 15, 2012

#207
“And some Trekkers apparently suffering from Stockholm syndrome in here, actually seem to like being treated like this!”

Not this one!! I can’t seem to understand the marketing ploys for this movie at all!! They give us (*essentially) nothing for over a year then they plan to release 9 mins of the film to an IMAX 3D only crowd before a single official poster, official trailer or even official still image is released? I’m pretty sure the marketing team for this movie are legally retarded.

*I say essentially nothing as I don’t count that “three frames” bollocks. That was JJ literally making fun of the fans. And it was something I do not appreciate. I hope if there’s a third movie, they get somebody else to direct it.

217. Data476 - November 15, 2012

I assume IMAX is shown only at ODEAN cinemas and not at cineworld’s in the uk – my nearest odean is a good 4 or 5 miles from where I am and therefore I will not bother with this..

Personally I would be very, very happy with a trailer – whether it be a teaser or a theatrical trailer – thats what I will wait for. Hopefully the first trailer will be released online in January 2013..

218. Star Trek Nemesis blows, is the point. - November 15, 2012

@210 Star Trek: First Contact is such a creative title, isn’t it?

Hey we’re going to make a movie about the Vulcans meeting humans for the first time. What should we call it?

How about Star Trek: First Contact?

Done.

219. drumvan - November 15, 2012

you know there’s a large chance we might not even see any of the main bridge crew or the enterprise in the first 9 minutes. we might get to meet the villian or one of the villians but st09 didn’t reveal any of the main enterprise characters till after the intro sequence.

boborci, boborci, boborci! will we see any of the main bridge crew, the main villian or the enterprise in the first 9 minutes?

220. a1071ccn - November 15, 2012

Good lord above people. Complain, complain, complain. I bet when JJ and crew 1st took on the Star Trek franchise I bet Paramount offered them a discount voucher for the studio shrink. No news = Complaints…First 9 mins of his film=More complaints. Jees louise guys pipe down… Personally I cannot wait to watch The Hobbit and to have this at the start is just a super bonus

221. Vger23 - November 15, 2012

209-

Hit the nail right on the head. These people pride themselves on being miserable malcontents, though. So, you’re point will likely be lost. For most of these folks, arrogance and an entitled attitude is just part of being a sci-fi fan.

And then everyone wonders why people poke fun at Star Trek fans?! It’s truly embarassing.

Ridiculous.

222. Boborci - November 15, 2012

what’s new?

223. Phil - November 15, 2012

Come on now – if nine minutes is hitting the big screen in a month, it will be on a website for the movie as well.

224. drumvan - November 15, 2012

hey, my “boborci, boborci, bobori” worked!

good to see you bob. can you shed some light to my question above ^^^

225. Cygnus-X1 - November 15, 2012

217. Star Trek Nemesis blows, is the point. – November 15, 2012

At least “First Contact” is something meaningful in the Trek universe, as opposed to a generic fiction descriptor.

“Star Trek: Saving the World from the Bad Guys” would have been worse.

226. dalek - November 15, 2012

Hey Bob, is there going to be any promotional video (trailer/clips) etc for those who don’t have access to an Imax cinema around that time. I don’t mind the wait. Keeps my interest up not down.

227. enterprise1965 - November 15, 2012

#175

I feel your pain on the $19 for IMAX. I use to live in LA while I was in the Navy now I am back in the bay area. The last time I went to an Imax movie I paid $14.50, I guess being in the entertainment capitol of the world you’d have to pay more.

228. Drapera - November 15, 2012

Excited to see the footage! I hope it is as thrilling as the start of the last film…awesome!

Teaser poster please?

229. SoonerDave - November 15, 2012

Cool. Now I have to decide if I want to shell out the $$ for a movie I could not care less about just to see the preview…

230. Craiger - November 15, 2012

I wonder what they will do for people who don’t like The Hobbit? Kind of torn between wanting to see the 9 min. footage and just wanting to see a full Trailer and not a teaser trailer.

231. Silvereyes - November 15, 2012

#97 MJ (the original)

“One of us is going to have egg on their faces next month, and dude, it is not going to be me.”

Well if it is, I hope you’ll have the humility to admit it. Humility doesn’t seem to be one of your strong qualities, with all your boasting about how you were right about this or that. You make predictions EVERYONE MAKES because they’re so obvious and then when it happens you claim victory as if you own it. I predict the sun will rise tomorrow morning!

Grow the hell up.

232. Nemesis4909 - November 15, 2012

Think we’ll get this in the UK?

233. Aurore - November 15, 2012

“…Now I have to decide if I want to shell out the $$ for a movie I could not care less about just to see the preview…”
_______

Allow me to decide for you.

Go…just to see the preview.
Then, leave.

:)

You’re welcome.

234. T'Cal - November 15, 2012

Wait. There’s a Star Track movie coming out?? Huh. Who’d a thought?

Ok, ok, I’ll stop complaining. But a whole month?? I have to wait a whole month?? And only 9 minutes?? why not 10??

Sorry. I’ll never stop whining. Nevah!

235. chrisfawkes.com - November 15, 2012

A couple of things worth noting about anger.

first anger is what we feel when we sense that we are out of control of a particular situation.

For example you windows user feel angry when your computer crashes because instantaneously things are ripped out of your control. If a warning came up that the computer would crash in five minutes that may be annoying but not quite the same thing.

Second is that anger projects onto something else.

So a teen getting bullied in school may bottle it up but will let it out on someone else later. Often this is not obvious to that teen who just finds him/herself getting narked at someone at home.

The outburst is the method to try to regain that sense of being back in control.

So often when people come here getting rude and trying to act superior to others it’s most likely a projection rooted in something else in their life.

Perhaps it is mounting bills, an argument with the wife, a bad day at work that leads some to then get highly agitated over wether a film title could have been better or not or wether a particular character may have done this or that.

All small stuff in the scheme of things and not worthy of the extreme emotions felt by some.

On the one hand perhaps we could sympathize and understand that some here have other stuff in their life going on but truth be told most of us here are adults and the behavior is just plain rude.

Particularly some of the stuff directed at Anthony who does this for the love of Trek and who is also entitled to have a life of his own.

It’s uncool guys. Step up and show some respect.

Disagreements can be had without having to hurl insult and condescension at others (and many here of course are good examples of that).

236. Bob, the eveil Klingon Frontline Leader - November 15, 2012

#221

“Microchip technology.”

And a Romulane ale to whoever can name the British tv series i just quoted :)

237. Nony - November 15, 2012

218: I would think it would be the opposite – that we would see the crew and normal kind of Enterprise-y stuff right at the beginning, just to re-introduce the audience to Our Heroes, and the actual plot/big villain reveal would come later on…

238. filmboy - November 15, 2012

Eh (shrugs shoulders)…I just can’t get myself excited about a 9 minute preview of the film. With that said, I do think this is a great move by JJ and Paramount. It is a way to give the true fans something to get excited about before releasing a teaser trailer to the general masses. If I were to guess, I would say that a teaser will be coming out in January sometime, on the coat tails of this 9 minute preview.

As far as what we may see in this preview: Well it is a given that there will be a great deal of SFX, CG, and action in this preview. This 9 minute preview is a way to show the fans how great IMAX 3D is. So of course it seems obvious that what will be shown will attempt to demonstrate the amazing qualities of the format. I would imagine it will involve the Kingons, Enterprise, and perhaps an outpost or starbase in danger. Perhaps it will involve the discovery of the Botany Bay by the Klingons. (Yes I do still think the villain is Khan.)

It is a shame that Mr. Orci couldn’t pop on here to drop a clue or two. But I am sure he is busy prepping for Amazing Spiderman 2. I swear this guy gets all the best gigs. If he got Star Wars, he would officially be the luckiest screenwriter in Hollywood.

239. Nony - November 15, 2012

Also, Bob, if you’re still around (and if you’re real!), would you know anything about which 500 IMAXes this will be in? How many in Canada? Sometimes my area gets these things, and sometimes we don’t.

240. Aurore - November 15, 2012

“….Perhaps it is mounting bills, an argument with the wife, a bad day at work that leads some to then get highly agitated over wether a film title could have been better or not ….”
______

Perhaps.

In my case though, it’s just that I’m spoiled.
I wanted DamOn to do as he was told.

I’ll get over this f*cking title, I’m working on it.
But, it’s hard…try to understand.

Please.

241. sean - November 15, 2012

I don’t see how anyone could reasonably believe this preview is some rush job as a result of the LucasFilm sale. This stuff takes considerable time to plan and coordinate. It’s far more sensible to accept that this was part of the plan for some time, as many, many sites had indicated that something would be attached to The Hobbit for quite some time now.

I’m also shocked people are complaining about ‘being forced’ to watch The Hobbit. Really? It makes me wonder why they try to do anything for fans in the first place, since they clearly can’t please them.

242. Hobbitsdonothingforme - November 15, 2012

No 14 – yeah bitching that I need to go to see a film that I have no interest in to see the 9 min preview and pay for the privilege – clever bleed you of all you cash marketing I’d say.
I with many others are desperate to see the ST2 trailer/ preview but I ain’t paying for it as I’m sure it will turn up online anyway.

And welcome back Anthony!

243. Mirror Jordan - November 15, 2012

Really hope the rest of us get a traditional trailer…

The marketing for this movie has been horrible, and nearly non-existent.

244. Chris Doohan - November 15, 2012

Hi Bob

245. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - November 15, 2012

“And some Trekkers apparently suffering from Stockholm syndrome in here, actually seem to like being treated like this!”

And some people will always see themselves as victims.

246. The Sinfonian - November 15, 2012

Is that really @boborci, or is someone spoofing again?

247. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - November 15, 2012

“…Now I have to decide if I want to shell out the $$ for a movie I could not care less about just to see the preview…”

Life is about choices.

248. dscott - November 15, 2012

Here I go again, just like in ’09… gonna pay to not see a movie but a trailer/preview/whatever. Can’t wait!!

249. rm10019 - November 15, 2012

I’m in, Lincoln Square, NYC 6pm. Thanks TrekMovie! Thanks BobOrci!

250. nate - November 15, 2012

Oh god can’t we just pay to see the 9 minute trailer? and not just see that Hobbit rubbish! Get a day pass for unlimited entry – keep going around and around for 9 mins :-P

251. Anthony Pascale - November 15, 2012

Just in case anyone was wondering, that is the real boborci. The spoofers have been banned.

And this is the real me.

any issues post a comment at
http://trekmovie.com/about/feedback-2/

252. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - November 15, 2012

Way to go Anthony.

253. Hugh Hoyland - November 15, 2012

Welcome back Anthony.

254. EM - November 15, 2012

I don’t know whether I’ll get to see the 9 minutes or not. Either way, I’ll read about 20 different in depth reviews (and alll the speculation that goes with them) the next morning. And, oh, I can’t wait to see the “discussion” about it here, too! Should be fun!

255. MikeTen - November 15, 2012

I’m not complaining, I’m just hoping the first 9 minutes of the new movie are not like the first 9 minutes of Star Trek: Generations where it seemed like 5 or 10 minutes went by watching credits and the bottle float thru space till it hit the Enterprise-B. Then we will get 30 seconds of dialog and the preview will be over.

256. Mr Phil - November 15, 2012

Think it’s going to start getting busy round here again. I’ll get the slippers.

I’m sure there will be a trailer released at a similar time – makes sense for the Marketing team to attack from several fronts. And a good time of year to do both with lots of get togethers and family meals over Xmas to build Trek word of mouth chat.

257. Hugh Hoyland - November 15, 2012

@BobOrci

How far along Is Enders Game in post production?

258. NCC-73515 - November 15, 2012

Will it be shown in all IMAX theaters or only selected ones?

259. pilotfred - November 15, 2012

just a trailer or two i dont want or need to see the first 9 mintues
what is so strange they keep it underwrap so long and then they show the first 9 mintues. which maybe a bad sign as does it mean the first 9 mintues have no bearing on the plot?photos &trailers thats all i was ever asking for

260. Jack - November 15, 2012

255. You saw Trek 2009 ? ;) Those first few minutes were a roller coaster?

And Nolan did this too — so it’s certainly not a sign that they have no faith in the movie, as some people are saying here.

My instinct is to, personally, not seek it out, because it was weird and disconnecting in TDKR to have that scene I’d already seen 7 months before…

Regardless, the news is awesome!

261. JJ's Secret - November 15, 2012

This is just the reaction to Paramount realizing that they have lost the media battle now against the upcoming Star Wars blitz that we already are seeing. Star Trek no longer has the edge, and the ‘buzz’, and this release is more evidence that JJ’s unwillingness to keep the fan base motivated has resulted in another property gaining the edge, and winning the hearts of minds of America’s pocketbook.

262. Elias Javalis - November 15, 2012

The nine minutes are going to be a blast! Lucky Americans!!

263. The Professor - November 15, 2012

I probably will not go to the Hobbit.
But I an curious to see/hear what the first nine minutes will be like.
I will be looking on YouTube shortly after midnight, as someone will certainly be posting it almost instantly! I am sure it will be removed shortly thereafter, just like the Spock vs. “the villain” fight video was.

264. The Professor - November 15, 2012

@261

The Star Wars buzz probably has / will have little impact on this movie and why and when things are released. If it was such a big deal, why wait until Dec 14? Why wait until now to announce it. If the movie is good it will do well, if it is bad it will not. Star Wars will have nothing to do with how well ST Into Darkness does. Of course, that is just my opinion and I could be wrong…

265. Check the Circuit - November 15, 2012

I wouldn’t count on a big reveal about the specific identity of the villian in the teaser. JJ and the marketing gang have proven themselves very adept at keeping a secret if that’s their goal. They can whet our appetites without serving up the main entree in, what sounds like, a great buzz-building tactic.

266. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

“JJ said earlier this month that we will see something from STID
“before the end of the year”; Superbowl is in January, correct?”

To clarify what I said earlier, I bet we would have got the full trailer for the Superbowl, and the short teaser sometime in December.

267. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@220 “Good lord above people. Complain, complain, complain. I bet when JJ and crew 1st took on the Star Trek franchise I bet Paramount offered them a discount voucher for the studio shrink. No news = Complaints…First 9 mins of his film=More complaints. Jees louise guys pipe down… Personally I cannot wait to watch The Hobbit and to have this at the start is just a super bonus”

EXACTLY. I am frankly embarrassed to a Trek fan right now when JJ and company go through the trouble to give us the greatest Trek movie preview experience in history. There are a bunch of ninnys and malcontents posting here.

268. FrancoMiranda - November 15, 2012

Bit of a shame for those of us blind in one eye who can’t ever enjoy 3D.

269. I'm a trekkie NOT a trekker - November 15, 2012

Now we know who the villian in Trek will be: Cumberbatch is playing Smaug in The Hobbit and Star Trek into Darkness is a LOTR crossover movie!! Spock isn’t in a volcano, he’s in Smaug’s lair looking for the “precious”.

270. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@261 “This is just the reaction to Paramount realizing that they have lost the media battle now against the upcoming Star Wars blitz that we already are seeing. Star Trek no longer has the edge, and the ‘buzz’, and this release is more evidence that JJ’s unwillingness to keep the fan base motivated has resulted in another property gaining the edge, and winning the hearts of minds of America’s pocketbook.”

You right — that is why they decided in the last two weeks that they needed to do something bold like this 9 minute 3D IMAX preview to get an edge themselves — to “slap the baby” of public consciousnesses in a big here. And I think it is a great idea.

Are JJ, Orci and copy habitual procrastinators who don’t market stuff very well? Sure. But this “bailout” is nevertheless a brilliant idea, and I see it pulling their asses out of the fire in a big way.

271. Anthony Lewis - November 15, 2012

This is being done for two reasons.

1. The Hobbit is going to be a HUGE movie. A lot of people are going to see it, a lot of people who might not watch Star Trek, this might convince them to watch the Trek movie when it comes out.

2. Why this is being done in IMAX only? Because parts of the movie were shot in IMAX, so they are showing off how the IMAX format looks in big budget feature films (spoiler alert: AMAZING). And since films like this being shot in IMAX are a pretty new thing they want to showcase it.

…..not rocket science here.

272. AJ - November 15, 2012

I wonder if the IMAX 3D “Hobbit 1″ will be in IMAX 48 FPS REAL 3D Dolby Atmos. Soon you’ll need a special college degree to choose amongst formats.

I know 48 FPS is going into limited release, but is it automatic in the IMAX release?

273. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@231. “Well if it is, I hope you’ll have the humility to admit it.”

You bet I will. And despite your personal attack on me, none of my predictions have been obvious at all. I am sure it is easy for you, who really doesn’t offer much here beyond you occasional posts which a typically full of vitriol, to sit back in you chair and take potshots at me and others, but I would much prefer to hear your ideas and any thoughts you might have on Trek, etc. That is perhaps a starting point for you to grow up, my friend.

274. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@210 “Unbelievable, people. I honestly think that Abrams could offer to personally bring the film to every fan’s house and cook a lobster dinner for you while you watch the film on a 200-inch TV, accompanied by the three Orion slave girls from Enterprise, and many of you would STILL find a reason to complain about it. It’s unbelievable how negative and angry some of you are determined to be, even when a good thing comes along.”

Yea, its pathetic and embarrassing to read all of this bitching now by some fans.

275. Lee - November 15, 2012

I didnt’t go to the IMAX version of Mission: Impossible: Ghost Protocol until two or three months after the film premiered. It still had the beginning of The Dark Knight Rises attached to it.

276. Aligee - November 15, 2012

Here in the UK I saw the batman preview with mission impossible at the same time as the states had it so I’m sure we in the UK will get it the same time as the hobbit is released on 13 Decemer in the UK

277. Silvereyes - November 15, 2012

273. MJ (the original)

MJ, I’ve found that most of your posts are well written and show you are a person of some intelligence. Also, they are, if sometimes damn annoying, mostly always entertaining. Sometimes I just get fed up with your “I told you so” attitude and making sure everybody knows you were right. But

Vitriol? It’s true I don’t post often and when I do it can be to express some frustration… I will endeavor to be more positive in my future posts! I don’t want to seem like a Debby Downer…

278. Sebastian S. - November 15, 2012

Too bad my wife is going to be out for surgery; we were going to see “The Hobbit” when it first came out, but now we have to push that back until possibly after Christmas (depending on her recovery).

Hope they still have the 9 minutes of Star Trek tacked onto I-Max screenings come early January (that may be our best shot at seeing this).

For months, I ranted about a lack of trailer and now they promise 9 minutes of footage when we won’t be able to see it! :-(

Grrrrr….

279. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - November 15, 2012

“To clarify what I said earlier, I bet we would have got the full trailer for the Superbowl, and the short teaser sometime in December.”

That would be incorrect then, no?

280. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 15, 2012

Great news. Hopefully, the nine-minute preview will eventually precede all versions of the Hobbit – An Unexpected Journey. Peter Jackson made his film so that it could be seen and enjoyed in 2D, 3D and 3D Imax. That is what we’ve been told about how JJ Abrams has made STID as well.

Nine minutes does seem rather long – I want to know something, but not necessarily almost everything.

I would say that a certain degree of forward planning on the part of Bad Robot and Paramount would have to have happened in order for such an extensive preview of STID to come with the worldwide release of the Hobbit, ie 12/13/14 December for most countries north and south of the equator. This is no coincidence. The Hobbit’s worldwide release date has been known for a quite a while.

Roberto Orci did say a while back that we could expect to see a trailer and/or other promotional material for STID just before Christmas. Clearly, JJ Abrams and his team have been working hard to keep to a schedule laid out many months ago, perhaps even a year or so back. Therefore I am really happy and gratified, but not especially surprised.

Early in 2011, I proposed that the Star Trek sequel should be released about the same time as the first Hobbit movie. My opinion can be found on a thread on this site. Completing Star Trek in time was not going to happen because Paramount wanted a 3D version as well. I have also suggested that they run any trailer etc preceding any screening of the Hobbit movie.

It seems that what I suggested has come to pass…

This preview has nothing whatsoever to do with the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney. Totally separate issues.

281. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 15, 2012

MJ – You have not “predicted” anything that was not already discussed. Roberto Orci told what was to be and it has come to pass.

I suggest you stop taunting other readers and posters by the loud and dissonant sound of you blowing your very old trumpet.

282. Well Of Souls - November 15, 2012

1st of all, welcome back Anthony. You may have been gone, but never forgotten. Hopefully the break was enjoyable. It had been stated when you did return it would be earth shaking news & indeed it is every bit that. Thank you for the post. Now that I know this place is being monitored again it is comfortable to post with confidence that we are indeed who we say we are.
Hello Bob. Not sure if it was you I talked to a few weeks ago about my dad fixing tvs years ago & you replied that your uncle did as well. If so, very cool for as I stated I was 1 of the few who had gotten to see TOS in color in it’s 1st run for that reason.
A poster came on claiming to be better and above many here because he was older therfore claiming to be wiser than most & was eventually pointed out by many as being condescending. With a great laugh to myself I decided to just read posts & not comment up til now. For the record, I am older than that particular poster & would never claim to be better than anyone of us Trek lovers nor anyone else for that matter.
There are many great opinions & some not so great that are posted here on a daily basis IMO. However, just because one person likes one thing & another doesn’t, should not make either a better or worse person based on their personal beliefs. We all do breathe the same air after all. Some people like to stir up the pot, where as others take the high road, the low road, or just prefer to remain neutral. It is this diversity that makes this site a fun place to visit. Whether it’s someone’s ego, someone’s logic or even a simple comment, I find Trekmovie entertaining, informative, mindblowing, & even one helluva a good laugh from time to time.
BTW MJ (original). Good call on the timeframe of a major newsflash. I did agree, as I had a gut feeling, nothing more nothing less, that within 2 weeks we would hear something major by 11/16/2012. This was big news. However I’m not ready to agree on a villian just quite yet.
From a marketing point of view, IMO, presenting the premier clip in it’s IMAX format is the right thing to do to show the potential of Star Trek in it’s maximum glory. The Hobbit is big news whether people like it or not, & when it is a news story on every news channel and entertainment program, I believe there will be great mention of the 9 minute Star Trek clip to boot as a bonus plug. Just because many people will not get to see this 9 minute preview in IMAX, I believe this team running Star Trek will most certainly be providing this preview in a theater that will accomodate the needs of the many and even the few who would rather wait.

283. NuFan - November 15, 2012

Start the Countdown! December 14th! Countdown into Darkness!

284. Ensign RedShirt - November 15, 2012

This is NOT a response to Star Wars. Stuff like this is set up waaaaaaay in advance.

It would be foolish to think that Paramount would announce a stunt like this to compete against a film that is at least 2 1/2 years away. That’s an eternity in the entertainment business.

The general public (i.e. not fanboys) has already moved on from the Star Wars news. They’ll pay attention again if some major casting is announced, then again when a trailer premieres, and finally when the movie comes out. That’s the way the public rolls. The attention span is fleeting.

Paramount did this to promote THIS picture – not to distract from someone else’s.

285. Let Them Eat Plomeek Soup - November 15, 2012

So this is how they’re marketing “The Hobbit” to Star Trek fans.

Clever.

286. boborci - November 15, 2012

well of souls

yeah that was me with Tv repairman uncle. Hope alls good.

b

287. ruue - November 15, 2012

great news for you guys in the States and in the UK.
Perfect that they choosed The Hobbit which is going to be HUUUUGE.
Unfortunately nobody gives a damn about the rest of europe particularly Germany where Star Trek has got a strong fan base.
There is no IMAX theatre here which is a shame…its like third world here.
I hope we will at least get a long trailer

288. Tom - November 15, 2012

I love this give and take thing happening with Paramount and WB.

With JJ being a massive troll I bet we’re not even going to see Cumby’s character here. Haha. Anyway, the’ve always been good in teasers and trailers so I’m in!

289. PromoBoy - November 15, 2012

Welcome back Anthony.
Don’t know what’s better- today’s Star Trek Imax news,
or seeing your name back on this site – where it belongs.
You’ve been sorely missed– please stick around and make this site relevant again.

290. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@277. OK., fair enough Silver Eyes….we are cool!

291. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@282 “BTW MJ (original). Good call on the timeframe of a major newsflash. I did agree, as I had a gut feeling, nothing more nothing less, that within 2 weeks we would hear something major by 11/16/2012. This was big news. However I’m not ready to agree on a villian just quite yet.”

THANKS!

292. Simon - November 15, 2012

@273 – Lucas and the STAR WARS to Disney announcement has *nothing* to do with this preview. The timing is typical for a preview of a May-opening event film.

Last year M:I:IV opened on Dec 21 and featured the opening sequence from THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, again only in IMAX venues.

Other features opening Thanksgiving weekend and through December will have other Summer 2013 previews, just like the recently unveiled WORLD WAR Z. Did that have anything to do with STAR WARS? Of course not!

So think Nolan, not Lucas. JJ’s pretty savvy. No prediction, just common sense.

293. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@281. “I suggest you stop taunting other readers and posters by the loud and dissonant sound of you blowing your very old trumpet.”

Keachick, basically every time I post anything here now, you are personally attacking and trying to discredit me. I am not sure what I ever did to get you so upset with me, but if I did so,

I APOLOGIZE!

So for goodness sake, please stop with the personal attacks.

PS: And please don’t respond to this post by me with some long-winded diabrible about what a horrible person I am and why you are always right and I am always wrong…we get that this is how you think, so there is no reason for you to wast yours and our time by repeating that all AGAIN!.

294. Hugh Hoyland - November 15, 2012

I wonder if they filmed STID 48 fp? Obviously some scenes where shot with IMAX.

You know what would rock IMO. A Star Trek movie shot on 70mm at 60 fp. :]

295. Well Of Souls - November 15, 2012

@ 286. boborci – Thank you Bob for the confirmation. I had a gut feeling it was you however as we all know with the extended Halloween masquerade party we had here where people were dressing up as everyone else one couldn’t be 100% sure who they were talking to. LOL Now that Anthony is back in the house we can now move on to the next party All things new Star Trek movie…
Bob, will this 9 minute clip eventually be shown in other theaters in 1 of the other formats preceding the Hobbit movie for those unable to view it’s 3D IMAX Atmos premier?

296. boborci - November 15, 2012

Well of Souls

Not sure where else the 9 minutes may show up. all i know is may will be here before you know it, and I cant wait for us all to get to talk about the movie.

297. Ensign RedShirt - November 15, 2012

294 – Hugh

The film was shot at 24fps, both in 35mm and IMAX.

298. porthoses bitch - November 15, 2012

Whats going to be interesting is wwhat happens in minute ten….Im suspecting the end of minute 9 is an over the shouldser shot of Chekov and Sulu…think of how many trek teasers ended that way

299. The Original Spock's Brain - November 15, 2012

Takes me back to when I paid $8 for the uninspired Quantum of Solace so I could see the ST09 trailer debut.

300. Anthony Thompson - November 15, 2012

293. MJ

Personally, I’d LOVE to see a battle royale between you and Keachick. Let the jousting begin! : )

301. Anthony Pascale - November 15, 2012

Ahem

http://trekmovie.com/2012/11/15/exclusive-first-star-trek-into-darkness-trailer-also-premiering-dec-14th/

302. Well Of Souls - November 15, 2012

LOL I was about to post this but went to refresh the page & saw my question answered. Posting anyway: @ 296. boborci – Well enough said Bob. I’ll accept that as an answer of which you are able to provide within your bounds. However I have a gut feeling non-IMAX viewers will get something as well.

@ 301. Anthony Pascale – That was the loudest 4 letter word I’ve heard in a long time…Still laughing. Once again, welcome back!!!

303. (the real) Montreal_Paul - November 15, 2012

Oh… and for my fellow Canadians… InnerSPACE confirmed that the 9 minute preview will also play in Canadian IMAX Hobbit showings… in major centres like T.O., Montreal, Vancouver & Calgary.

304. Hugh Hoyland - November 15, 2012

297. Ensign RedShirt

Ah okay. Should look fantastic on the big screen.

305. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 15, 2012

“Keachick – November 2, 2012
MJ – You are not as clever as you think you are.
Your “prediction” is simply based on what is already known about the release of STID’s first trailer. Even Phil has reminded in previous posts that my hopes that perhaps the first teaser/trailer would happen with the release of Skyfall would not be the case, because first Bob Orci said that the trailer won’t occur until November/ December and was later confirmed by JJ Abrams himself.
The premier for the first Hobbit film takes place on 28 November 2012 in Wellington, NZ.
The first countries to see the Hobbit movie will actually be places like *Belgium and Estonia (12/12/12). NZ, US, UK etc see it on 13/14 December. If JJ Abrams is able to have STID trailer precede the Hobbit in its worldwide release, that would be outstanding. It also happens within the time frame as told to us here by Bob Orci himself, and later by JJ Abrams.
Fingers crossed. Here’s hoping…”

This is what I wrote on another thread – see the date.

I have written other comments about tying STID trailer and/or other with the release of the Hobbit movie because of similar quality production values (way back in 2011) and later because Benedict Cumberbatch appears or is heard as Smaug in both movies.

MJ – You and some Red Dead RYANNE have been going at me for the last few weeks, as in making fun of my affection for Chris Pine, calling me a “know-it-all”, “holier than thou” teasing, and generally dictating what I should write or not. You are also taking credit for things that are not yours to take. Stop taking the not given.

What’s more – when I came on this site and started reading through the comments about the announcement Anthony Pascale made about the STID preview coming with the Hobbit, your conceited and false utterings made me feel quite sick – literally.

I am not always saying that you are wrong. The reality is that you are ALWAYS saying that you are right, even when you are not.

I PREDICTED/HOPED THAT EITHER THE STAR TREK SEQUEL OR A STAR TREK PROMOTION COULD WELL COME WITH THE HOBBIT – AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY.
When I mentioned such a possibility of either the movie or a trailer running alongside the Hobbit, most, if not all, disagreed with me. They either did not like the idea or did not understand my reasoning.

I feel somewhat vindicated, if not acknowledged by those who would be in a position to properly verify the truth of what I write.

306. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

Jesus Christ, 2 fracking pages more of your bitching about me. I can’t say I am surprised. I have no response to your negative crap and attacks on me. I can take it and move on. Whatever!

Enjoy your your obsession with me if you must, plus please note that I am not going to stoke your fire here. I feel sorry for you!

307. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

And for everyone here, to set the record straight, I HAVE MADE ABSOLUTELY NO remarks about Keachick and Chris pine in the past several weeks, and I have no clue or relationship who that new dude calling himself “Red Dead RYANNE” is – I am sure he is not the real Red Dean Ryan though, as the RDR I know from this site would not post crap like that.

308. dmduncan - November 15, 2012

“Mayhem at local movie theater when Hobbit fans subdue disgruntled Trekkie demanding 111 more minutes of Star Trek…news at 10.”

309. LizardGirl - November 15, 2012

I think RYANNE might’ve been a girl. Drop the RY and what do you have? ANNE. Also, from what I can remember–“her” posts never referred to anything related to trek. They were very personal and actually quite dumb, if not a little catty. It read like Stunkill’s trollery though, so who knows…

*******
I happen to live less than thirty minutes from an IMAX 3D theater, which is awesome! But when I peer into my wallet I want to cry. I was banking on finishing up this year with Skyfall. It calls my name but maybe I will resist The Hobbit and just catch the 2-3 minute trailer. Which is exactly what I wanted anyway.

310. K-7 - November 15, 2012

Rose, just curious, what did MJ say regarding his prediction that you claim was false and made you sick?

It ooks to me like his prediction was fairly simple and straightforward. He said that withing two weeks of November 2nd, there would finally be significant information from JJ on the new movie, most likely about the trailer. And this happened 12 days after MJ predicted it to happen.

Obviously you don’t like MJ and resent his predictions, but this one proved to be spot on and 100% correct. So you really can’t say that MJ’s prediction was “false utterings,” because it happened exactly as he said it would, and he had the guts to provide a limited time-frame of only 14 days to his prediction to either be disproven or proven. I didn’t see you are anyone having the guts to put time-frames like that on what you were saying might happen. MJ can certainly be an insufferable ass at times, but he is usually right on with his information and predictions concerning Trek.

Perhaps you are letting some personal stuff between you and MJ get the best of you here? He nailed his prediction here within a very limited time-frame that gave for it to expire — no one can legitimately argue with that.

311. K-7 - November 15, 2012

Lizard Girl,

9 Minutes of Trek 2013 in IMAX, plus seeing The Hobbit in the new 48FPS 3D (which is going to blow old 3D and 24FPS away!) on IMAX.

SPEND THE MONEY!!!

312. Simon - November 15, 2012

@310 – Whatever the personal animosity between those two doesn’t matter, but even I can say it wasn’t a “prediction”. Just common sense, I made this same “prediction” elsewhere but it doesn’t mean anything. I also “predicted” STID would be in the Dolby Atmos format. The very next day the press release was about just that. I didn’t claim any insider knowledge or psychic abilities: it was just key knowledge of current tech and the industry.

It’s like living in Seattle and seeing dark clouds on the horizon, predicting rain within the next few hours, trumpeting to everyone your amazing “prediction”, and then expecting others to be impressed.

313. K-7 - November 15, 2012

Simon, you are conveniently ignoring the context and impetus of MJ’s prediction: it was in response to the Star Wars big announcements. If it wasn’t for that, I think MJ is right — we would have got brief teaser tagged to a December movie, and not seen the full trailer until the Super Bowl.

The Star Wars thing “woke up” JJ and Paramount in a big way. So you are missing the whole point here concerning MJ’s prediction, which is being grossly unfair to him.

314. Red Dead Ryan - November 15, 2012

Red Dead RYANNE was a totally different person. He/she couldn’t spell anything correctly, or put together proper sentences. I’m betting it was Stunkill, but it doesn’t matter, as the imposter(s) has/have been banned.

And Keachick continues to launch unfair attacks against MJ. She’s complained (legitimately, I’ll give her that) about my attacks against her in the past, but now continues to claim to be a victim while launching attacks of her own against MJ. It has escalated in the past few weeks. I don’t think Keachick can play the victim card anymore.

315. Shilliam Watner (Click Name for Trek Poster) - November 15, 2012

Assuming the Star Wars story “woke up” JJ and Paramount is merely that – an assumption, which is not a prediction. For it to be a prediction, one would have had to say “There will be an event that will force JJ Abrams and Paramount to release a more substantial and earlier preview of their film than previously planned.”

316. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@315. Shilliam, great to have you back, dude! I was worried you had left for good. You were missed!

317. boborci - November 15, 2012

SW woke us up theory is ludicrous. i thought i was a conspiracy theorist;)

318. Red Dead Ryan - November 15, 2012

#317.

Takes one to know one, eh, Bob?

319. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@317. LOL Of course it is! Sure! ;-)

320. Simon - November 15, 2012

@313 – Nope. Not at all.

Again, I pointed out earlier with last year’s M:I GHOST PROTOCOL (produced by JJ Abrams) and the IMAX preview for THE DARK KNIGHT RISES: what did that have to do with STAR WARS?
WORLD WAR Z is now previewing and that doesn’t even open until next July. Again, what does that have to do with SW?

Things like this have to be planned a lot further in advance than a couple weeks ago anyways. To think that SW prodded TREK is just ludicrous.

TREK opens in May, to think they’d wait until February (Super Bowl) to release a major trailer isn’t realistic.

BTW: Personally I am wondering when we’re going to see some kind of footage from Del Toro’s PACIFIC RIM…that’s more likely to be your Super Bowl story.

321. StelArian - November 15, 2012

@221: WOW! You are very hard Vger23! But unfortunately, partially right.

Anyway. Looks like Paramount had in plan a full wide marketing opening at Dec 14th. It was IMAX that open the door first to draw attention. So, no hard feelings :)

Sorry Paramount for misjudging you too early. Thank you for keep on Trekking ;)

LLAP \\//

322. MJ (the original) - November 15, 2012

@320. You go right on believing that then. :-)) For me, I am wearing my “They Live” sunglasses and can deduce what is going on here. You’d have to be naive to think that the SW deal did not force this.

BTW, deals like this can be done with as little as a phone call or two if the parties have worked with each other before, and these all have. The is no months of planning that needs to happen for something like this. And like I said before, JJ, Orci and the principals are of course never going to admit that the SW deal forced their hand…are you kidding me!

323. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 15, 2012

What is the matter with you, MJ? Honestly?

Actually you did pick on me re Chris Pine and in fact other people on this site pulled you up for it, because of how stupid and creepy you were being. “Creepy” was another poster’s description of your conduct. If you are not attacking me in some way, you are going after somebody else, like Roberto Orci. You are also a person who in the past, over time, was well known for accusing others of ass kissing/butt kissing etc. and at one point accusing me of such behaviour. I guess Red Dead RYANNE learned from the best, eh, MJ?!…:(

This idiocy of believing that the SW news somehow forced Paramount’s hand is bullshit and no, JJ, Orci and others are not going to admit to something that never happened.

The news about Star Wars is little more than bum paper here, there and everywhere…

324. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 15, 2012

I guess it is the difference between wearing clean, slightly rose-tinted, specs and wearing dark, filth layered specs. People tend to see what they want to see and that includes you, MJ.

I am not “attacking” you. I am challenging and refuting your comments and statements. Not the same thing. On the other hand, your comments towards me re Chris Pine etc have been personal and rude.

325. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 15, 2012

“but now continues to claim to be a victim while launching attacks of her own against MJ. It has escalated in the past few weeks.”

Nothing has “escalated”. Why are you lying, Red Dead Ryan? In fact, other people have had as much, if not more, interaction, both negative and positive, with MJ than I have had.

I do feel that in subtle ways I have been “victimized” possibly more than others. I have had MJ, Red Dead Ryan, Red Dead RYANNE, Azrael try to have a piece of me.

I have had more of my posts messed with, as either appear, disappear then reappear or disappear completely. No one even bothered to answer my query as to whether they could post using any email address, however since 12 August this year, I can only use one email address – a gmail.com one. I only needed to change my email address once before that, and that was only because we chose another internet provider, therefore a new address.

I realize that I may come across as being acerbic to some, but it is almost always in response to something not quite *right*, like right now.

326. boborci - November 15, 2012

322. yeah, actually, much planning has t go into it becuae you have to color time the nine minuts, mix the sound, and finalized effects in a different specific order then if you were just working on a movie for release. not sure what your ego gets out of believng SW had anything to do with our schedule. if wed moved the release date, maybe…just maybe, youd have a viable theory.

327. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 15, 2012

Although seeing the first scenes of STID on an IMAX 3D screen will no doubt be a great way of launching the movie into the public eye, it also limits who gets to see it. Imax cinemas are not “two a penny” and there may only be one or two of these cinemas within an entire country. These are also places where surely the film’s promoters will want lots of people to see the movie eventually.

By early next year, there has to be another trailer made that can be seen preceding any movie on any cinema in the world. I suspect that this footage is already done as well and they are waiting for the right moment. This will have also been planned.

I realize that there are one or two people who happily tell me and others here that I am not as smart as I think I am etc, but –
@Bob Orci – am I correct in my assumptions, written above?

328. star trackie - November 16, 2012

But boborci,

Abrams has been editing the movie for months now, and the special effects were started last winter. So its certainly credible to me that the first nine minutes could be in the can already.

I get that you guys would rather not address how Star Wars impacted this though.

329. MJ (the original) - November 16, 2012

Keachick, come on — three more lengthy posts laying into me? Really, Keachick??? Enough is enough. I’ll repeat once again what I said earlier:

“I have no response to your negative crap and attacks on me. I can take it and move on. Whatever! Enjoy your your obsession with me if you must, plus please note that I am not going to stoke your fire here. I feel sorry for you!”

Enough already, Keachick. Go hate someone else for a week, please, or get some Anger Management Counseling for Christ’s sake.

330. boborci - November 16, 2012

i dont even follow the logic of this particular conspiracy. what a waste of brain power. there are real conspiracies out there that actually affect your lives, but you waste your time on this one?

and i didn’t mention editing, i mentined COLOR TIMING and SOUND MIX and FINAL FX.

trying to help some pf u understand how reality works so that maybe you can become more effective hunter/gatherers in whatever ecosystem u find yourself in. I give up.

331. MJ (the original) - November 16, 2012

@326. Bob, as @328 mentioned, it is easy to postulate that a nine minute piece of the film is already completed by now. In fact, you guys could probably have made a Christmas release for this film if you had planned things out a bit more efficiently.

Looking forward to it big time though!!!!!

332. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 16, 2012

The hatred is all yours, MJ! Get help!

You’re right about one thing – enough already. All you have done is cyber bully me (with your little *friend* Red Dead Ryanne) for the last few weeks. YOU leave me alone!

333. MJ (the original) - November 16, 2012

@330. Bob, see how frustrating it can be when someone shoots down an expert opinion (in this case yours) when you are trying to argue there is no hidden agenda! ;-)

334. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 16, 2012

Anthony Pascale – is the real Bob Orci, ie Roberto Orci of the writing team of Kurtzman/Orci, who is one of the writers and producers of STID? Please confirm!

335. MJ (the original) - November 16, 2012

@332. Yea, whatever you say. New topic.

336. K-7 - November 16, 2012

So NOW Orci shares some production info about the movie?…finally? Where was he the last 1.5 years when we wanted a few crumbs on the movie? It is very telling to me that he is completely silent all these months about the sequel, until someone brings up this Star Wars issue. Why all of a sudden get so defensive and come out of the woodwork on this issue after not providing us anything of import for so long? I’ll tell you why — because we have hit on something key here that the Supreme Court would rather not come out in public about.

If anything, Orci coming out of the woodwork and getting so defensive about this NOW confirms that Star Wars is/was a factor here. Otherwise, Orci would ignore this just like he has pretty much ignored all of our questions and comments on the sequel for the past couple of years.

337. Tom - November 16, 2012

Uhmmmm. Third world countries have IMAX 3D. I live in one and there are 3 IMAX cinemas just an hour away from my place.

338. Red Dead Ryan - November 16, 2012

No question that “Star Wars” infuenced their decision. They saw Disney get a big boost, with the SW brand now being resurrected on the big screen, and Paramount and J.J Abrams just recieved a “shot across the bow”, so to speak. They are now forced to put out a nine-minute clip and a trailer earlier than they hoped.

If the acquisition of Lucasfilm by Disney had not occurred, than all we’d probably get for the holidays would be a one or a two minute trailer.

Again, Abrams works in Hollywood, and Paramount is part of Hollywood. So those guys would have heard through the grapevine the massive deal that was about to go down days, if not weeks in advance.

And now Bob is trying to deflect the conversation.

339. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 16, 2012

You guys are nuts!

Why wouldn’t Bob try to deflect this kind of rubbish being shovelled in his direction?

I don’t give a shit about Star Wars and Disney and I expect there may be a lot of people out there like me. If that is the case, why should Bob Orci and co? Different franchise…..

Besides, the mooted Star Wars film won’t be released until 2015, TWO years AFTER the release of STID and that’s if it even gets made. Perhaps the release of the Star Wars in 2015 may affect the making of the third Star Trek movie, but not this one.

You don’t know what we’d probably get. No one has forced them to do anything. Everything, thankfully, is going to schedule and we have known for months now when to expect a trailer and/or other promotion. Stop trying to second-guess and muddy everything. This cynicism and sarcasm are becoming very tiresome.

340. Chris H - November 16, 2012

‘trying to help some pf u understand how reality works so that maybe you can become more effective hunter/gatherers in whatever ecosystem u find yourself in. I give up…’

Embarrassing isn’t it….? I gave up on here years ago.

341. star trackie - November 16, 2012

I agree with Ryan and MJ. Of course the whole marketing schedule was accelerated due to the Star Wars announcement. The timing of all this happening within two weeks is just too much to believe as a coincidence. And if it hadn’t been for Star Wars, at most, we would have received just the normal trailer next month.

Think about it. The super-secret JJ would never lift the veil of secrecy to let nine minutes of one of his movies out unless the marketing suits at the studio demanded it. And here they did demand that, as Lucas and Disney forced their hands.

I won’t blame Bob, JJ and company for not coming clean on this. I am sure JJ has his usual omnipresent gag order out not to let anyone know ht real reason behind this. JJ is so much like The Wizard of Oz, and that’s why I love the guy so much.

Well done Wizard, and thanks to George Lucas and Disney for getting us this nine minute preview!

342. star trackie - November 16, 2012

Chris H: “Embarrassing isn’t it….? I gave up on here years ago.”

Which obviously explains why you read up to post 340 here, and then posted here as well, I guess? ;-))

343. Chris H - November 16, 2012

341: I gave up on commenting and getting involved with the majority of the snarky, the obsessive and the baiting that seems to pass for ‘fandom’ on here.

It’s still my first call for Trek news!

344. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 16, 2012

Paramount told Bad Robot to make the nine minute preview of STID because that was part of their overall marketing strategy. The promotional time table has already been set and is going just as it is meant to. Bob Orci has already told us when to expect the first Star Trek trailer and now it has been confirmed. The publicity and trailer has just come within the six month window. It would have happened this way, irrespective of whether Lucas sold Star Wars or his favourite pencil…

Do you really think that what George Lucas and Disney does matters at all? Why would it? Answer – because it DOES NOT MATTER.

Perhaps, with the making of the third Star Trek movie, it might, but not now.

345. Aurore - November 16, 2012

“…Again, Abrams works in Hollywood, and Paramount is part of Hollywood. So those guys would have heard through the grapevine the massive deal that was about to go down days, if not weeks in advance.”
________

It’s possible.

In fact, I would even go so far as to say that at least some of those guys might have heard through the grapevine “it” was about to go down…months in advance.

On another thread I said that the …”surprise”…deal was probably not a surprise for everyone….(or something to that effect). It’s an opinion I have formed after reading several articles related to that very topic, online.

That is one of the many reasons why, I personally believe the recent Trek news had nothing to do with the Star Wars announcement .

Sure, Mr. Abrams was “thrillified”* but, truth be told, he could not have afforded the “Tarantino approach” when asked about his feelings regarding the news. Moreover, he’s a Star Wars fan, after all…
(Ain’t nothing wrong with that).

Another reason is that, I have this crazy theory that Mr. Abrams is not desperate….

:)

*
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-directors-disney/

346. Anthony Thompson - November 16, 2012

Except for Red Dead Ryan and K-7. I think we all agree (including Bob Orci) that MJ’s claims and delusions of grandeur are a steaming pile of dung.

347. The Sinfonian - November 16, 2012

Well, if the Mayans were right, at least we’ll have gotten to see 9 minutes of STID before the end of everything….
.
Star Wars has everything to do with Star Trek. Macroscopically. Microscopically, no.

348. Ensign RedShirt - November 16, 2012

The willful ignorance regarding how the movie business works is shocking.

Bob comes in here, explains WHY you’re wrong, and you ignore that too, because it doesn’t fit the narrative you set up in your head. Btw, that IS Bob. Anthony got rid of the fakes.

Paramount could care less about a movie that’s being released 2 1/2 YEARS from now. As Anthony explained elsewhere, they’re simply following the playbook that Warner Brothers and Nolan used for Dark Knight.

It takes character to admit you’re wrong – show some.

349. Mark Lynch - November 16, 2012

I would imagine it takes a lot of time, effort and probably money to get trailers attached to movies. I would also imagine the bigger the movie the more it would cost to attach to it.

So, I do not believe this was a last minute decision due to the acquisition of LucasFilm by Disney.

But what I am very surprised at is that we are getting nine minutes of footage! What has happened to JJ’s predilection with secrecy?

Seriously, I am shocked we are getting so much footage in one go.

Bob, any comments on why we are getting so much in one go?

PS
For God’s sake, some of you people, keep the personal attacks out of it. Especially the ones being levelled at Bob Orci. The guy takes time out to interact with us and some of you can do no better than behave like petulant teenagers.

350. Mark Lynch - November 16, 2012

@348
You posted while I was writing my previous comment.
Well said, sir/madam!

351. Simon - November 16, 2012

@338 – Again, why would SW, a franchise that won’t relaunch until *2015* affect STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS???

Not a single article I have read anywhere on the LucasFilm purchase asked what would it mean for STAR TREK. Not one. Nor has any article on the TREK preview mentioned STAR WARS. There isn’t even any Blu-ray releases for the SW franchise planned. The CLONE WARS TV show continues…has that affected TREK, other than cause speculation about a TREK animated show for the past few years (and no movement on that by the way)!

It’s like claiming someone farting in India caused Hurricane Sandy.

352. Ensign RedShirt - November 16, 2012

351 – Simon

That is the best analogy EVER! Made me laugh out loud! Kudos, sir!

353. Red Dead Ryan - November 16, 2012

#341.

“Think about it. The super-secret JJ would never lift the veil of secrecy to let nine minutes of one of his movies out unless the marketing suits at the studio demanded it. And here they demanded that, as Lucas and Disney forced their hands.”

Exactly!

#343.

“I gave up on commenting and getting involved with the majority of the snarky, the obsessive and the baiting that seems to pass as ‘fandom’ on here.”

LOL! That’s why I’m reading your posts, right?

#345.

“In fact, I would even go so far as to say that at least some of those guys might have heard through the grapevine “it” was about to go down…months in advance.”

Then that would be more evidence that “Star Wars” influenced the release of the nine minute clip.

“The Motion Picture” was made due to “Star Wars”. Paramount saw the success of SW, and figured they had to bring “Star Trek” to the big screen. This time, Paramount saw a monumental acquisition made by a rival studio and saw the urgency in finally marketing the sequel. They need to do this to ensure that there is a third movie, which would come out after the proposed seventh “Star Wars” flick, and which would need the big box office success to ensure more Trek movies after Abrams and co. are done.

Paramount was perfectly happy not marketing this sequel before the Disney story broke. But now they have to build a larger audience because the third movie comes out after the seventh “Star Wars” movie. And if the SW movie turns out to be a smash, then Paramount will need all the positive audience reaction it can get from its own sequel to ensure that the third movie is as highly-anticipated as possible to be able compete with Disney’s newly acquired juggernaut.

Essentially, Paramount was kicked out of its complacency by Disney, and now have to actually work hard to properly market the sequel, especially in the non-English speaking international market.

354. Silvereyes - November 16, 2012

#326 and 330 boborci

I sense frustration and exasperation in your posts… I think you’ve been working too hard, or maybe it’s not you…

355. Ensign RedShirt - November 16, 2012

352 – Red Dead

Wow. That post makes absolutely NO sense…at least in, you know, the real world.

You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

Apparently even Bob Orci (the writer and executive producer of the film) telling you that you’re wrong isn’t good enough.

To think that Paramount would mount a campaign against a film that doesn’t come out until 2015 is ridiculous. There’s no “competition” between them – any competition that exists only occurs among fanboys who care about that sort of silly thing.

356. Anthony Pascale - November 16, 2012

The notion that this preview has anything to do with SW is simply ludicrous. There is no logic to it, nor is it even logistically possible.

357. Red Dead Ryan - November 16, 2012

This isn’t merely about a “Star Trek” film going up against a “Star Wars” film, it isn’t. You’ll never see a Trek and a Wars movie released in the same year. I think we can all agree on that.

What this is about is Paramount’s “Star Trek” movie franchise being able to hold its own against Disney’s “Star Wars” franchise. Like it or not, the two studios are bitter enemies, and the two franchises need the other to succeed to succeed themselves.

Paramount had no choice but to wake up from its malaise, or else risk having its recently rebooted franchise become irrelevent again.

358. Ensign RedShirt - November 16, 2012

TMP and The Empire Strikes Back were released six months apart…December 1979-May 1980…and in those days, movies played for months.

Answer me this – why do you have such a hard time believing what Bob and Anthony have said? You have no proof whatsoever that the SW announcement had anything to do with this. None.

359. K-7 - November 16, 2012

Anthony, I know you have been gone for quite awhile — welcome back!

A lot of us here have been monitoring this story day by day, and definitely see a connection between the timing of this and the SW announcement. And for the super-secret JJ, who likes to keep as much information possible for as long as possible to himself, this is quite a departure for him. As as Ryan pointed out, the insiders in Hollywood probably new the SW deal was coming well before it was publicly announced, so the planning for the 9-minute IMAX deal probably started weeks before the public announcement, in response to upcoming SW bombshell that they were expecting.

360. Anthony Pascale - November 16, 2012

Showing things in advance is not unprecedented for JJ. Exactly 4 years ago Abrams took a tour of the world showing 4 scenes from the Star Trek movie to journalists. I was at the LA screening and wrote about it (which was the point of the tour)

http://trekmovie.com/2008/11/20/anthonys-thoughts-on-the-la-star-trek-movie-presentation/

361. K-7 - November 16, 2012

“You have no proof whatsoever that the SW announcement had anything to do with this. None.”

I know you wrote this for Ryan to respond to, but with all due respect:

(1) You can’t also offer any proof whatsoever that the SW announcement had nothing to do with this. None. So we are left to ponder why JJ, after years of super-secrecy on all his movies, would all of sudden, go 180-degrees from his past, and do it at this particular time???

(2) Bob has to follow JJ’s secrecy policy, and Bob has not provided us fans any informatoin on the procudction or the movie until now, when, all of a suddent when fans bring up this particular issue, he decides to weigh in and get all defensive about this???

(3) Anthony has been out of touch with regard to Trek news for quite awhile — I think his last story was like 2.5 months ago. This is a great site, and he’s done a great job with it, but I an inclined to think he has not been in the loop on this movie on a regular basis like he was with Trek 2009. I respect his opinion on this of course, but I disagree with it based on this context. So, God Bless the guy, but I just don’t think he would have the inside knowledge to know here what influenced the decision-making by the studio and JJ here on the IMAX preview.

362. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 16, 2012

#360 – Anthony – I quickly read through the link you gave us and it does seem as if people are being *short-changed* in that we only get a nine minute STID preview instead of what amounted to 20 minutes from the first movie.

Oh dear – it does appear that JJ Abrams is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t, by some people here…:(

Why do K-7 and Red Dead Ryan insist on rewriting history to fit their own peculiar take on recent events? What they are saying is tantamount to lying, especially when it comes to what Roberto Orci has actually told us here on this site, a few months ago. Not good at all.

363. Anthony Pascale - November 16, 2012

One more time. SW announcement did not inspire the preview. I know this as a fact.

364. rm10019 - November 16, 2012

Anthony, there is no need to argue the rambling assertions of a vocal minority. We can tell they are narcissistic posters, who look for the negative and controversial in even the best Trek developments.

Thanks again for your hard work, and thanks to Bob and the people who really make a difference in making Star Trek so much fun.

365. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 16, 2012

“(2) Bob has to follow JJ’s secrecy policy, and Bob has not provided us fans any informatoin on the procudction or the movie until now, when, all of a suddent when fans bring up this particular issue, he decides to weigh in and get all defensive about this???”

So this is your evidence of Orci and JJ’s “guilt”? If Bob got defensive, it is because he is being accused of something he has not done or been part of. Yet, you still insist that the timing of the publicity and release of STID trailer and other promotional material as having something to do with the SW/Disney announcement, even when Bob Orci has refuted it. You behave like a lynch mob!

Remaining silent, as Paramount/Bad Robot and those who are under contract to them, like the actors, is not a crime. Just as freedom of speech is regarded as a human right, so is remaining silent also deemed a human right!

It is coincidental that the SW/Disney announcement should come at the same time that TPTB begin rolling out their marketing campaign for STID. I suggest that people refrain from making it an unfortunate coincidence.

366. Ensign RedShirt - November 16, 2012

Anthony, you hear that? You, who have the Trek connections that you’ve used to break news, are out of touch. K-7, whose only Trek connection is what he reads here, appears to know all, perhaps through direct telepathic link to J.J. Abrams’ brain.

367. K-7 - November 16, 2012

@365. I don’t think any of us have ever claimed to provide any direct evidence of this. This is a theory based on circumstantial evidence. For my part, have never claimed it was more than that.

OK, now you are saying I am lynching people. Yesterday, I was “disgusting.”

Look, can we at least keep the discussion related to Trek here and stop with the personal attacks please? Come on!

368. K-7 - November 16, 2012

@366. LOL. Right! Well at least you shifted to making fun of me instead of the personal attacks others are using. That is some progress I guess. ;-)

369. rm10019 - November 16, 2012

I’m really excited about this event, enough wasting time on these silly posters.

Can’t wait for the 14th!

370. dmduncan - November 16, 2012

330. boborci

“trying to help some pf u understand how reality works so that maybe you can become more effective hunter/gatherers in whatever ecosystem u find yourself in.”

***

Excellent way of putting it.

371. Well Of Souls - November 16, 2012

Perhaps it was Disney who had attempted to do some damage control in releasing this information @ this time due to some insider information they had months in advance regarding knowledge of the upcoming Star Trek marketing campaign date. LOL. Personally I couldn’t see a better opportunity from a marketing perspective how the highly anticipated Hobbit movie would be a no brainer as a launching platform to showcase Star Trek’s ultimate version and I believe this was the plan all along. Even though many people will not or cannot see the 9 minute 3D IMAX Atmos version there is the regular trailer which will be shown on other screens prior to the Hobbit & other movies for that matter. If I’m not mistaking, it was stated that the trailer could also be seen on the internet within a week if none of the current theatrical movies are not your cup of tea. The Super Bowl would be a logical place to have an updated trailer. And a few months after that comes the actual release of Star Trek I.D. to view in any format your heart desires.

372. Anthony Thompson - November 16, 2012

It looks as though things got too hot in the kitchen for MJ – he’s conveniently disappeared. LOL.

373. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 16, 2012

Perhaps I should have clarified. There are posters who do behave as if they were a lynch mob when it comes to how they behave towards JJ Abrams and his team. The “you” is plural…besides, a lynch MOB is obviously more than one person.

374. K-7 - November 16, 2012

@373. Oh, THAT DEFINITION of a lynch mob. Well, why didn’t you say so, Rose. That definition of a lynch mob basically means having friends over for a dinner party of course, and that definition is based on David Lynch’s famous dinner parties in the 80’s and 90’s of course.

And here I thought you were suggesting I would string up people, cut them or hang them, and then pike their heads on sticks for the village to see.

Just a simple misunderstanding. Now I know you meant the more positive definition of a “lynch mob.”

We are cool now. No problem!

375. star trackie - November 16, 2012

#374. That’s hilarious!!!

376. Red Shirt Diaries - November 16, 2012

K-7, well done! The best way to handle an abusive situation on the internet is with humor. It tends to lower the stress of the exchange.

377. NCM - November 16, 2012

@330. boborci – November 16, 2012

“there are real conspiracies out there that actually affect your lives, but you waste your time on this one?..trying to help some pf u understand how reality works so that maybe you can become more effective hunter/gatherers in whatever ecosystem u find yourself in. I give up.”

Conrad on “Heart of Darkness”: “A …story of a journalist [writer] who … makes himself worshipped by a tribe of savages [no parsing necessary]…[and consequently goes mad]… Thus described, the subject seems comic, but it isn’t.”

Caution, Mr. Orci, lest the primitives send you into darkness. Maybe you should skip the hunters’ bait, gab with the gatherers, instead, and mix it up with the medicine men.

378. MJ (The Original) - November 16, 2012

@363. I have no doubt that you really believe that — no doubt based on one of your sources probably telling you that. That source may even believe it to be true.

379. Sebastian S. - November 16, 2012

# 363

Thanks AP (and welcome back) for a much needed dose of common sense on this board. It’s becoming a bit ‘Lord of the Flies’ around here. The SW decision is totally unrelated to ST; SW won’t even be in theatres for three years. Any ‘connection’ is a case of misperception, not fact…

I’m just hoping that “The Hobbit” in I-Max stays in theatres after Christmas; my wife is going in for surgery in early December, and she is really sad about missing “Hobbit” on opening night. After hearing the ST connection, I’m bummed out too.

Would Bob Orci know if the 9 minutes of ST footage is showing with “The Hobbit” throughout it’s entire I-Max 3D run? Or just opening week?

If it is attached to the entire run, then my wife and I may have a chance to see it after Christmas (or as soon as she’s up to going to the movies; her doctor told her at least a couple of weeks, maybe more…). We live only eight minutes from an I-Max theatre, too.

380. K-7 - November 16, 2012

It is kind of funny that so many of the same people here who refused to ever accept Anthony’s inside information that Khan is the villian in the sequel, are now taking as gospel Anthony’s inside information that the IMAX preview is not at all related to the Star Wars announcment.

If Anthony’s information is so good for you all now to accept, then why wasn’t it good enough for you all to accept with the Khan statement? Do you all have some special powers of clairvoyance that allows you to KNOW which pieces of Anthony’s information is right,and which pieces are wrong?

LOL

381. NCM - November 17, 2012

K-7; kudos on your special powers of annoyance.

As I recall, Anthony’s Khan reporting was based on ‘reliable sources.’ If he said he knew for a fact…, I missed it. In any case, to negate what he’s saying on this account is to accuse him of lying. If you think you’ve earned more credibility here than AP, add idiocity to your list of personal charms.

382. Disinvited - November 17, 2012

Just to keep our timelines straight, let’s keep in mind that the first teaser trailer for the 2009 TREK came out in January of 2008; and that was for a then scheduled 11 month later release.

I wouldn’t mind being enlightened as to why a four year later sequel being released in a much more competive fist full of films environment, needs a much more abreviated less robust rollout?

383. Sebastian S. - November 17, 2012

# 381

Well said, NCM.

This latest bit of information was fact; the previous Khan rumor was ‘reliable sources’ (not to mention it’s been refuted by two cast members). Not necessarily the same thing.

Besides, the SW issue can be resolved by logic; the first new Disney SW movie is not due for three more years. Star Trek’s new wave of publicity (which was forecast on this site months ago) obviously preceded the Disney SW move (which took the world by surprise right before Halloween). One is clearly NOT related to the other.
Common sense….

384. K-7 - November 17, 2012

@381 @383

You have missed my whole point (or more correctly — deliberately chose to evade my point entirely), and instead tried to twist is around like I am trying to insult Anthony or something. Nothing could be furhter from the truth.

Let me be more clear. Quite a few fans here haver arbitraily chosed not to believe Anthony’s information on the villain being Khah, but yet many of these sam fan’s choose to believe Anthony when he says he knows that SW was not a factor here.

And in responde to NCM saying,

“As I recall, Anthony’s Khan reporting was based on ‘reliable sources.’ If he said he knew for a fact…, I missed it”

I mean, come on. He obviously wasn’t sipping a latte in the exec conference room at Paramount, Bad Robot or IMAX Inc, when the IMAX preview deal went down. He heard it from one of his relieable sources, of course — probably the same source that so many of you believe here was wrong on the Khan story. LOL

385. K-7 - November 17, 2012

#382 “I wouldn’t mind being enlightened as to why a four year later sequel being released in a much more competive fist full of films environment, needs a much more abreviated less robust rollout?”

EXACTLY !!!

386. dmduncan - November 17, 2012

381. NCM – November 17, 2012

Hahaha!

387. K-7 - November 17, 2012

#386 Perhaps Monsanto is the source?

388. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 17, 2012

The rumour about Khan being the main villain and the notion that the SW announcement has something to do with the nine minute preview that people will see if they go to see the Hobbit at IMAX 3D are just that – both are rumours, speculation. There has been no FACTUAL evidence provided for either claims made by some people here.

I am more inclined to believe in the possibility of Anthony’s rumour about Khan being the STID’s bad boy than the speculation/rumour being spread about there being a SW announcement and STID trailer connection.

Also Roberto Orci said that there is no connection. The inference that some posters keep asserting by questioning Bob Orci’s verity is not good. Not good at all.

389. Disinvited - November 17, 2012

Well, I don’t think promotional plans were altered as much as JJ used a tool available to help him implement his. You have to also be aware the film’s distributor’s marketing plans are something quite apart. Rarely are writers privy to intracacies of that. But that Paramount reacts to new information is an historical fact. We do recall the original December 2008 release date change of their first effort?

390. MJ (the original) - November 17, 2012

@388. That is more than a rumor — Anthony confirmed it in his breaking news story last Spring — probably his biggest exclusive ever on this site. To say that it is only a rumor is to say you don’t trust or believe Anthony.

BTW, Keachick, you keep conveniently ignoring my posts where I have responded to you on this “making me of me and Chris Pine” stuff. I repeat, if there are any recent posts labeled, “MJ (The Original)” or “MJ” that make fun of you, THOSE ARE NOT MINE. When I want to be critical and contrast my arguments, I will use my usual wise-ass brand of sarcasm and overly clever remarks, but personal attacks like you are describing is not how I roll. I never posted that crap your are describing…period!

391. star trackie - November 17, 2012

MJ, do you think Rose really cares if you are innocent of what she is accusing you of? I doubt it. She is obviously determined to attack you constantly here. In fact, I’ve noticed recently that the handful of times you have agree with her on something, that she has ignored that, and only focused on warring against you whenever possible. She’s out for blood, and the truck be damned.

392. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 19, 2012

star trackie should mind his own business. This is between me and MJ. I am not out for anyone’s blood; never have been. Please keep your own odious projections about what YOU think I am about to yourself!

393. disgruntled - November 21, 2012

If it’s between you and MJ then p*ss off and continue your stupid arguments elsewhere…

You’re arguing on the INTERNET FFS, get a life!

In other news, can’t wait til 14th December. Weeing with excitement.

394. Rose (as in Keachick) - November 23, 2012

disgruntled – so you did manage to write out your charming little “p*ss off” in full, instead of the lazy “stfu” which was the source of a couple of interpretations and general animosity. If you meant to write, “shut the f*ck up” then write it! If you meant to just write “stuff you”, then write it!

Lazy twat! Boy, you have a bloody cheek…

395. Arthur White - December 3, 2012

Its about time I need a new movie (1966-2013)

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