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Frakes: JJ Abrams Could ‘Pepper’ TNG Stars Into New Star Trek December 4, 2012

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Jonathan Frakes inhabited the role of William T. Riker for seven seasons on Star Trek: The Next Generation and into four feature films (two of which he directed). And now Frakes says he thinks its possible that someone from TNG can get ‘peppered in’ to a new Star Trek movie from JJ Abrams. Details below.

 

Frakes: JJ could ‘pepper’ a TNG star into new Trek

Speaking to NBC Philadelphia, Jonathan Frakes was asked about the future of the TNG cast in the new universe…

Perhaps the J.J. Abrams “Star Trek” films have precluded the notion that the TNG crew might reunite on the screen, at least for a while. Have you guys thought about that, or talked about it?

I am very hopeful. I’m not sure where we would be – I happen to be a fan and a friend of J.J.’s and I think he’s rebooted the franchise in the most successful and wonderful way imaginable. And I’m really excited about the second movie. I think maybe some version of what they did with Leonard Nimoy in the first movie would be the way to go: they would pepper in one of us. I would imagine they’d start with Picard if they could. It would involve our usual time travel/quantum anomaly/black hole/some sci‑fi version of how we all get there.


Frakes as Riker in 2002′s "Star Trek Nemesis"

The Bearded One also talked about Season 2 of Next Gen on Blu-ray.

It must have been a real treat to be able to be able to get together with everybody and just really sit down without a giant audience to reminisce for this Blu‑Ray release?

It was wonderful. The add-on, I guess, is on this second season from our Calgary panel, where we were sitting around taking the piss out of each other. It’s wonderful. It’s candid and it’s funny. It’s emotional and it’s revealing. It was a great morning. We did it one Sunday morning when we were all in for a convention. It’s a pretty special group of people.

Get your copy of TNG S2 Blu-ray from Amazon discounted to $64.99.

Read the full interview for more from Frakes at NBCPhiladelphia.

Comments

1. Tom Delgado - December 4, 2012

First.

Anywho…Would love to see JJ’s take on TNG as well though some people would still complain about it not being this or that.

2. Harry Ballz - December 4, 2012

The cast from TNG “peppered” into JJ’s Trek?

Not a snowball’s chance in hell that will ever happen.

There are too many other great stories to tell without resorting to that kind of gimmick.

3. Buzz Cagney - December 4, 2012

Why bother? TNG’s story has been well and truly told.

4. Jack - December 4, 2012

Love ‘em. But I don’t want to see them in movies again. Especially not the new Star Trek.

“It would involve our usual time travel/quantum anomaly/black hole/some sci‑fi version of how we all get there.”

5. Curious Cadet - December 4, 2012

If they did that for the fans, and that would be the only reason to do it, then I would rather see one of them as an ancestor, in much the same way they had Michael Dorn play Worf’s ancestor in The Undiscovered Country. Please, NO MORE TIME TRAVEL!

6. Mark James Tucker A Man And His Dream - December 4, 2012

I acutally wouldnt mind seeing Col. Worf again at some point in a future JJ Trek movie.

7. AJ - December 4, 2012

I ,for one, don’t buy the “we’re sick of time travel” schtick that many Trekkers complain about. “Trek” does great time-travel stories:

City on the Edge of Forever
Tomorrow is Yesterday
Assignment: Earth

Yesterday’s Enterprise
First Contact

Little Green Men
Trials and Tribble-ations
Past Tense I/II

Future’s End I/II
Year of Hell I/II

Storm Front I/II (forget about most of the Future Guy stuff)

Star Trek 2009

I am sure I missed some, but, not a bad record. I say go for it.

8. Steve Johnson - December 4, 2012

Storm Front a good time travel story? Hah, no. It makes absolutely no sense. At all. Terribly written. There’s a reason the cliff hangar had a huge viewership drop. It was terrible.

…And yes, most Trekkers are quite sick of time travel stories. They’ve been done, a lot. There are other things to explore. It’s Star Trek, not Time Trek.

I think the Curious Cadet had it absolutely right. Go the Col. Worf route and make the character an ancestor. In particular the way they did it with Worf was very good. It wasn’t a big bru-haha deal. It was like “Oh hey, it’s grand pa-pa of Worf, cool. …Moving on!”

Hell, let’s get Frakes really grey and have him play the grandfather for the Riker of TNG or something. Maybe he could be some Star Fleet Admiral who lecture’s nuKirk. That’d be an interesting bit without making it a big fuss. Admiral John J. Riker. – Commander Star Fleet

9. Paul - December 4, 2012

Sorry but you had your time get Berman to make a TV movie for your crew.

10. spock69 - December 4, 2012

As long as time travel stories are done well they work out just fine.
As for TNG cast? I wish some people would stop bitching about them. insurrection and nemesis do not cancel out 7 great years of TNG trek. Berman and co were to blame for that. Nuff said!

11. Ren - December 4, 2012

Please, no. It seems a bit distasteful considering this is supposed to be a reboot of TOS. Plus, bringing TNG into it would be too much. There’ll most likely be enough going on without cramming more into it. At least that would be my hope. I’d be sorely disappointed if a new Trek movie turned into something akin to the disaster that was Pirates 4.

12. Jaime - December 4, 2012

I’m sick of people saying “trekkers” instead of Trekkies. :-/

13. Buzz Cagney - December 4, 2012

Besides, the only one of the TNG crew that could act was Patrick. Put any of the others in with the talented new crew then they are going to look painfully out of their depth. You only have to look at Frakes in the picture. He can’t even stand convincingly. I rate the guy as a Director and as a man but an actor, not so much.

14. AJ - December 4, 2012

11

‘Pirates 4′ grossed over $1 billion crappy dollars worldwide. It falls into the same ‘disaster-zone’ as the 3 Transformers films, which all blew major chow,but also hit identically surreal earnings numbers.

Let’s hope ‘Star Trek’ never goes there.

15. Sid - December 4, 2012

I hope they managed to sneak Bakula or Shatner in.

I know they didn’t, but it’s a fun little hope to hang onto.

16. Admiral_Bumblebee - December 5, 2012

I doubt that they will ever have one of the cast of the series in another movie again.

But I could imagine a reboot of TNG bei JJ Abrams, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. Not as a new movie series but as a TV series. TNG in the new alternate universe where we see how this new universe is getting more and more different from the Prime timeline.
I could imagine a slightly different crew for the TNG-Enterprise. Maybe no Picard at all, Riker as engineer, Data as captain etc.

17. Corinthian7 - December 5, 2012

@7 Agreed. If you don’t like time travel then stop watching freaking sci fi!

18. LOFC_Ed - December 5, 2012

If they were to do a next gen version of the alternate timeline, would he cast Tom Hardy as Picard d’you reckon?

19. DAYS OF FUTURE PAST - December 5, 2012

At least they could use Patrick Stewart in the third movie, like they do in the next X-Men movie “Days of future past”.

He could play an alternative timeline Picard from a darker future within the JJ-Verse. But instead of someone from the future travelling back in time (we had that much to often), they could do it the other way around.

By accident the Enterprise travells into a dark 24th century future where they meet Picard as somekind of freedom fighter against a corrupted, more empire-like federation. What the hell went wrong? Well, without Kirk, Spock and the classic crew the federation had no chance of developing into 24th century utopia as we knew it. So they have to get back into the 23rd century to restore human history. You can imagine who has no interest in letting that happen: The dark powers of the corrupted empire.

20. DAYS OF FUTURE PAST - December 5, 2012

btw. use your imagination! everything is possible.
they used the first one to connect to tos. with the second one they stand on their own. the third and maybe last one, has to have some reference to the future of the jj-verse and how things will evolve into the universe as we knew it.

btw. btw. a reboot of tng should never be made! they did it with tos, because Kirk and Spock are icons. but tng was outstanding because of its context, not of its characters. you can`t redo it without damaging the integrity of tng. tos was more about fun, and for that a reboot is ok, but it doesen`t work for tng.

21. Spock Jenkins - December 5, 2012

Why can’t we have more than ONE star Trek film at a time. At least maybe giver the TNG group a big budget standalone film send off ( and I say that even not being a huge fan of that crew ).

You can’t leave things with Nemesis being the last one, give them one more go…

22. Spock Jenkins - December 5, 2012

Didn’t JJ’s movie already start in an ALTERNATE REALITY ( despite what the makers say – I’m a huge fan of JJ’s movie btw ).

The crew of the Kelvin sported The Enterprise Starfleet Insignia, but Pre-Kirk Era/Kirk-Era Starfleet ships should have all had their own insignias, correct?

23. Geek Girl - December 5, 2012

Berman and Braga “peppered” TNG into Enterprise. Look how that turned out.

24. Brainulo - December 5, 2012

I hate to be a troll here,but PLEASE, Frakes. Just let it go.

Think of this as an intervention. We all saw the finale’ of ENTERPRISE. That way lies madness.

Just do the cons with grace, cash the checks, and call Lavar to see if he’s willing to call the guys at GSN to get you a pity gig on PYRAMID. Or maybe Tim Russ orJames Cawley will throw you a bone and let you play your own grandpa or a Kingon or something.

And by the way,,,take PRICELINE off your speed dial. They’re not going to be returnng your calls.

25. VulcanFilmCritic - December 5, 2012

@2,3,4 Agreed!
The surest way to crash and burn this franchise is to resort to some unimaginative and exploitative trick of “peppering” TOS with TNG.
But why stop there? Why not “pepper” the Star Trek universe with “celebrities” like the Kardashians and Paris Hilton, just like they used to do on Batman in the 60′s?
Oh, and by the way, Leonard Nimoy’s presence was integral to the story. He wasn’t peppering anything!

26. Picard, Jean-Luc - December 5, 2012

I think what would be cool and interesting is doing TNG in the new timeline but rather than doing movies do it for television and really explore new ways to get more content out to fans using the internet.

Personally I want Star Trek to return to TV, to a channel perfect for Star Trek in both the US and the UK (ideally BBC 2 in the UK).

Star Trek: The Next Generation for a new generation.

As for characters from TNG appearing in the new movie I think it could work as long as JJ Abrams is going in that direction, surely Captain Data and Admiral Picard would have searched for Ambassador Spock and put together perhaps a science team to figure out if there was a way to bring him back through the black hole he dissapeared into?

It all depends if the writers want to return the story back to the prime timeline or whether or not they’d want to continue with the new time line. Either way I think a lot of fans (myself included) are wishing for that final great send off for the original cast of TNG.

With the exception of Data/Brent Spiner, if it were to be a plot where Admiral Picard and Co find a way into the alternate timeline to rescue spock prime then none of the cast would need to be made to look younger and as for making Data look younger, technology is here for that to happen digitally.

27. Calastir - December 5, 2012

In sci-fi and especially Star Trek, anything is possible.

28. Olddarth - December 5, 2012

Not a fan of a TOS/TNG movie cross over either. In 10 or 15 years if there is demand for new TNG material or some creative team is energized in doing so, then go for it.

29. Barfco - December 5, 2012

If they did have a crossover character or two from the next generation how would it be someone from the original next generation cast? They are old and in the 2009 Star Trek universe would be very young. Perhaps they are in their adolescent years so if they want to have some new young person play Will Riker or Jean Luc Picard that would be fine but surely it wouldn’t be Frakes or Stewart.

30. Holger - December 5, 2012

Bringing TOS characters into TNG made sense and the explanations were not too contrived: McCoy was very old, Scotty was stored in the transporter buffer, Spock is Vulcan and Vulcans get over 200 years old. Kirk’s stay in the Nexus was not such an outstanding idea, but well. But bringing TNG characters BACK in time AND into a parallel universe just for the fun of it? (Or just because some former TNG actors would like it.) I don’t see how to do this without, well, writing a silly and contrived story.
Re 27: I agree. But still, some things strike audiences/readers as downright silly and others not, even in SF.

31. pilotfred - December 5, 2012

i don’t see the point unless you are do i kind of countdown scene! which would be fun and cool!and this can show what is happening in the prime time or like Spock another cross over maybe they are looking for Spock (i know a bit like escape from the planet of the apes) again showing what is happening in the prime timeline

32. Damian - December 5, 2012

Not going to happen. Abrams and co. will likely do one more movie after this and they will probably be done (based on their own statements, not any opinion of mine). Abrams has stated in the past that he has little interest in the spin-offs. I wouldn’t necessarily have an issue with the actors playing other roles if the particular role fit their ability, or even the ancestor of a character idea some people float. But I don’t really see how they can fit a TNG character into the Abrams storyline without time-travel. And they have said they are done with time travel.

Just like having Shatner as prime-Kirk, having a TNG character in a movie in this timeline would require some backstory that would take away from whatever story they were trying to tell.

I love TNG (and all Star Trek as I’ve noted millions of time). But I don’t see how they would fit in the new universe in the original series time-frame. I was one of the 10 people that liked Nemesis and I’ve read all the relaunch novels, so for me TNG story continues.

33. T'Cal - December 5, 2012

I miss this man! Whenever I hear him talk about Trek, he is genuinely excited and sincerely reverent. I would love to see him and maybe LeVar Burton in charge of TNG on TV in some form: animated series, live action miniseries, live action series. Frakes knows the characters and the actors and he knows how to get the most out of them.

As far as TNG characters being in the JJverse, I suppose it work such as in a flashback with Spock and Capt. Riker of the Titan before the Vulcan ambassador went through the temporal rift that brought him and the Romulans back in time. I’m no writer so I won’t go beyond that little though nugget. Suffice it to say, it could be done and done well but I’d rather see TNG/DS9/VOY era back on TV.

34. T'Cal - December 5, 2012

Make that “thought nugget.”

NEM wasn’t bad but it wasn’t great by any means. And it was hardly a good send off.

35. Antni - December 5, 2012

I personally wouldn’t want to see and TNG characters in the new movies however I think it could be cool if there’s mention of an ancestor of one of the characters for example Admiral Crusher or shopkeeper Riker etc could even meet an ancestor of Yar’s on that colony she lived on or whatever or even chateau Picard could be used during a meal or party scene or something.

36. Spock Jenkins - December 5, 2012

@Tcal,
Yeah, I actually enjoy watching Nemesis whenever it cones on Tv ( even though it is pretty much a remake of Wrath of Khan ).

I think the misstep was Insurrection, after a very enjoyable First Contact. They should have built upon the good response of FC and made the following film exceptional. Insurrection sucked, and felt like a tv movie at best.

37. Phil - December 5, 2012

Would I care if the actors turned up in a future Trek production, no. Would I care if specific characters turned up, yeah. That just reeks of gimmick writing, and won’t work. T4 is just the latest example of that.

38. Dom - December 5, 2012

TNG is done. Although Leonard Nimoy was a nice addition to ST09, his presence was ultimately unnecessary, given how spot on the new cast were. Any further cameos would be a distraction. Besides, if they feature a version of Picard from the JJ-verse future, it would be fun to see Tom Hardy in the role! ;)

The series is called Star Trek, though, not ‘Time Trek.’ Ultimately, I’m done with time travel-based Treks for now. There’s a big universe out there to explore so let’s see more of it, rather than hover around Earth in different time periods!

39. T'Cal - December 5, 2012

I liked INS because it felt like a TV episode. Other than FC, TNG films weren’t so great. TNG and the other 24th century series were at their best when they utilized the entire ensemble cast and not merely focused on three characters. TOS, on the other hand, used a triad of characters from the beginning – Kirk, Bones, and Spock. TNG, and even more so DS9 worked for me because of the deep character development as well as the unique relationships that each had with the others. A film, even a series of films doesn’t allow that to happen nearly as successfully.

40. Mike D - December 5, 2012

I think it be cool if JJ directed a TNG movie that continues from after Nemesis like when Romulas’ sun explodes that causes Spock & Nero go back in time. I would like to see Riker’s Titan and I wouldn’t mind seeing Deanna Troi again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

41. Spock Jenkins - December 5, 2012

Agree wholeheartedly T’Cal.

I also recall when Bryan Singer was planning an multi-crew Federation movie, or am I confusing that with something else?

On a separate note, the movie industry is different from when the Original crew starred in the movies. Will the current cast even want to consider doing 6 + movies down the line? or will they recast/reboot when this trilogy is complete.

Ideally, I would like to see 2 trilogies featuring the JJ cast before they decide to change things again, but given Hollywood’s propensity to reboot as soon as something isn’t quite a big a hit as they planned, I don’t know if my wish will be possible…

42. Spock Jenkins - December 5, 2012

Mike D, maybe even a prologue featuring some of the TNGers – or In fact, the ENTERPRISE show crew.

Wouldn’t T’Pol still be alive ( if she escaped the destruction of Vulcan )?

Is T’Pau also dead follwing the explosion of Vulcan? Probably

43. Mike D - December 5, 2012

Ohhhh T’Pol the hottest woman alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I always wanted a Enterprise movie. I thing the Voyager crew should get something because the had the lamest last episode.

44. al - December 5, 2012

I’m not against time travel stories, but they’ve been done to death. As far as TNG crew being in a JJ’s Trek…no!!! Leave that one alone. If they want to reboot TNG…give them their own film.

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46. BitterTrekkie - December 5, 2012

45. That “prime universe” crap is just a half hearted attempt to pacify long time fans who aren’t big on remakes or whatever you want to call them.

47. Captain Hackett - December 5, 2012

No way. I prefer JJ and his crew focus on TOS characters only, not other characters from other Star Trek series because I want to see more stories about these characters.

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49. crazydaystrom - December 5, 2012

Hard to imagine that happening but down the road if Paramount thinks it’ll bring in some more boxoffice bucks anything’s possible. IF it did happen it would be post-JJ.

But as I’ve been saying and implying for years I don’t care what the exact trappings of a Star Trek itration, as long as it’s interesting, intriguing, well-written science fiction set in the/a Star Trek universe, I’ll be happy.

50. crazydaystrom - December 5, 2012

That’s *a Star Trek iteration*.

51. George Zip - December 5, 2012

I was always kind of disappointed that the reference to Mr. LaForge was dropped from the film; that is, when speaking of the strengths of the Jellyfish (aka USS SPOCKS TIME SHIP) :) Spock said something about how Mr. LaForge assured him it could withstand the pull of an event horizon or something like that.

52. Sebastian S. - December 5, 2012

Bad idea from Frakes.
The new ST has to stand on it’s own.

The role of Prime Spock was integral to the first movie, but when you start shoehorning in TNG cameos (characters who are supposed to be in the next century, BTW)? It becomes a futuristic edition of “Where’s Waldo?”

53. Blerg - December 5, 2012

I can’t stand how people hate on the TNG cast, I fo one loved them. This was the crew and show that I grew up on and that really get me into not just Trek but also Sci-Fi in general. I personally miss the TNG crew and would absolutley love to see them again in any context.

54. George Zip - December 5, 2012

And FWIW, I always thought an easy way out of the whole “Data is an android and can’t age” crap was simply to say that a side-effect of the emotion chip’s subroutines was an aging algorithm or the like. C’mon; it’s Star Trek — you can make up pretty much anything and add whatever words that’ll make it sound like second nature.

55. George Zip - December 5, 2012

Even a simple CGI-based series (a la Clone Wars) for the USS TITAN would be welcome, even as a simple web-based series of shorts. Frakes and Sirtis work well together — remember that interview? they seemed like an old married couple. Along with the new characters, you could have visits/communiques from TNG personnel. And a visit from the Picard/Worf ENTERPRISE when it’s sweeps week.

56. George Zip - December 5, 2012

I think the reason so many want to see some kind of TNG on the big screen is the improper send-off TNG got in “Nemesis”.

As a TOS fan, I would’ve been pretty upset if STV: FINAL FRONTIER would have been the last TOS film Trek.

57. Damian - December 5, 2012

39–TNG and DS9 and to a lesser extent Voyager did work best on TV because of the great amount of focus they could place on the whole cast from episode to episode. I agree, in the movies that’s just not possible. That was one weakness with TNG movies. Even First Contact, as great as it was, tended to focus mostly on Picard and Data, and somewhat on Worf (who by that time was on DS9). Ironically, I always thought Nemesis payed the most attention to the rest of the cast among the 4 movies, yet it is the most reviled (along with Star Trek V) among fans.

But overall, that’s why I always felt DS9 and Voyager just would not work in a movie setting. Enterprise, maybe, since the series focused mostly on Archer, T’Pol and Tucker, with Phlox as a close second. However, there is no chance of an Enterprise movie so that’s a dead end. (As an aside, I noticed Pocketbooks will be continuing the Enterprise books to the creation of the Federation–I had thought the way they truncated the Romulan War books that Enterprise was done–I still think they should do a Tale of the Romulan War to fill in the missing gaps).

58. George Zip - December 5, 2012

#22 re/the Kelvin using the Enterprise’s badge.

Yeah, that bugged me as well. I still see JJ’s as its own alternate universe (not even a different timeline, per se) and still enjoy the hell out of it.

Case in point; how many iterations of Batman have their been? Each has its own merits and downfalls.

And each has its own (oft rabid) fan base. Just enjoy them as different interpretations or variations on a theme.

(Though I have to say; I would still want to see a change to the ENTERPRISE in the second outing (not a fan of Church’s Star Wars-esque design) and Giacchino needs to bring in some TOS themes, cheekiness be damned.)

59. BeyondtheTech - December 5, 2012

@23 I think it was more that the Enterprise cast was peppered into a TNG episode of Enterprise.

60. Jonboc - December 5, 2012

TNG cast in the new movies? Let me think about that…ummm….. No.

61. JDM - December 5, 2012

The only thing I can see is the current series of films with Kirk and crew recasted ending with a segue into a series of films featuring younger and, yes, RECAST versions of the TNG crew. There are canonical opportunities with the backstories of Picard, Crusher, Data and Worf. There’s also the potential of an enemy like the Klingons finding key remnants of Nero’s destroyed ship still in the 23rd century and using it to attempt what Nero did, except in the future instead of the past. That would put Kirk and crew in a unique position to intervene and perhaps follow the villain into the future, where they have no choice but to meet up with younger members of the TNG crew.

62. Chris Roberts - December 5, 2012

I think I’d sooner see Enterprise cast members like Scott Bakula’s Archer or Blalock back as T’Pol, and er… added as salt to a Abramsverse show or film. That’s slightly more credible than time-travelling 24th Century characters backward.

63. Damian - December 5, 2012

58–The Kelvin using their badge was hard to reconcile. In theory, up to Nero’s incursion, that should be the Prime Universe. But some things did not fit. The Kelvin had 800 people aboard, while in the Prime Universe when the Enterprise was under Pike, it had 200, which was originally launced 2245, while the Kelvin was destroyed by Nero in 2233. The writers did such a good job with a majority of the story, but they took a few unnecessary liberties. They could have easily kept things consistent with established canon in that regard. I don’t think the non-Trekkie audience would have noticed the uniform insignias weren’t different form the Enterprise and I don’t think having 150 to 200 people aboard instead of 800 would have made a hill of beans difference.

The bridge set was the one thing that made some sort of sense on the Kelvin, if you followed a normal progression from Enterprise to the original series. But there were still some issues with Engineering and windows instead of a viewscreen (I still don’t get that). I liked most of Star Trek (2009), but production design was one of my pet peeves. BUt that’s another conversation all together.

59–Probably the worst possible closing to a series. Ironically, it probably would not have made a half bad TNG episode.

64. Ctrl-Opt-Del - December 5, 2012

Wouldn’t work for the same reason as why they couldn’t just nip back to 2015 & stop old Biff stealing the Sports Almanac in Back to the Future II; this is a different timeline, if Picard & co were to go back in time to the 23rd century they would emerge in their own past, not the new movies’ “present”.

The only way you could fudge it would be to have them come back to before the Narada emerged, wait until it had & then skip forward ~25 years. Then they would be forever trapped in the new timeline, unable to go back to their own future (present, whatever).

The other possibility would be the Guardian of Forever, but that’s getting really esoteric for a mass-appeal movie.

65. Spock Jenkins - December 5, 2012

Re: The Kelvin, I like what you folks are saying. Also, just looked up the explanations at Memory Alpha, and it can be workable I suppose, even the idea that the Kelvin was a workhorse mega-prototype carrying 800 crew members, and that class of ship thereafter mothballed…

I actually would have loved to have seen ‘The Cage’-esque uniforms on the Kelvin crew ( rather than the tng-esque ones ).

I’m even hoping somewhere down the line we get to see the Motion Picture ‘Pyjamas’ again ( even for a prologue or something ), they were so Sci-Fi ’70s…

66. Decker - December 5, 2012

Using another time travel story to bring in those characters seems kinda forced.
Why not have the actors play older relatives, i.e. Frakes as “father of Riker”?

67. Brainulo - December 5, 2012

If Imay clarify;

I am not aTNG or Frakes hater….quite the contrary. I do, however, find it pathetic when someone I care about doesn’t know when it’s over. It’s self inndulgent ego-booo, and so beneath him. It bugged me when Shatner took that attitude in 2009 beforehe wised up, and it;s the same when Takai pipesp aout still wanting a Captain Sulu series.

68. Brainulo - December 5, 2012

Sorry…dodgy spacebar here.

69. J.C. England - December 5, 2012

Why would Frakes want to be in the “JJ World”? – he
has a fantastic opportunity to put together his own
Star Trek: Titan tv series or made for tv movies, but
he and the cast can’t seem to convince CBS to put
it on. No good reason to be “peppered” into anything
else…

70. Elias Javalis - December 5, 2012

I always liked Frakes. I mean, I don’t know him personally..but he was one of those fine Star Trek Actors and more! Him and my countrywoman Marina make a great Duet!!

71. Rose (as in Keachick) - December 5, 2012

Gosh, just about everyone seems to know JJ Abrams and claims that he and they are friends… really?

This iteration is about Kirk and co from the 23rd century in an alternate universe from the prime universe. “Peppered in” – really? The way Riker and co. got “peppered” into the Enterprise series.

YUK!

72. Red Dead Ryan - December 5, 2012

I think TNG would be better off being rebooted as a series in the new timeline rather than have some of the characters be crammed into the movies.

Bob Orci could easily reboot the show in the new timeline, and even improve upon the original TNG.

73. Trekzilla - December 5, 2012

Yes, and I could be salted into one as well! ;-)

74. The Last Vulcan - December 5, 2012

Nice interview from someone who IMHO is the greatest actor to ever be on any Trek:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/12/04/patrick-stewart-star-trek-tng-measure-of-a-man/?hpt=hp_t3

75. Bird of Prey - December 5, 2012

Shoehorning TNG characters into the Abrams-verse? Sorry no, I think that just would appear to be way too forced.

A much better way for involving a TNG actor would be to create a new character for him/her, who then gets hinted at being an ancestor of his/her TNG role. (Like Colonel Worf in “The Undiscovered Country” or Arik Soong in “Enterprise”.)

76. Smike - December 5, 2012

While it doesn’t seem tangible to have Frakes or any other TNG star in this new movie series they should really get a better send off than NEM was. A made-for-DVD/BD reunion movie would be the perfect way to reprise their roles before anyone is gone for good. They could get some DS9 and VOY faces in there as well…

That said, I really hope there will be a little reunion project for ENT as well… Show Archer and crew in the Romulan Wars…there has been a gaping hole for the better part of a decade and it would perfectly fit with the new movie universe since ENT is set decades before the Nero incident…

77. Smike - December 5, 2012

P.S.: They really should do that for the 50th anniversary on five years from now…

78. dmduncan - December 5, 2012

Note to the chefs: no pepper on my Star Trek, please.

79. Ardin - December 5, 2012

Can we just get Trek back on TV…PLEASE!!!!!

80. Ensign RedShirt - December 5, 2012

Ain’t happening. There’s absolutely no reason to do it. Leonard helped them get started and now they need to do their own thing.

It’s unfortunate that TNG ended the way it did, but it’s pretty clear that era of Trek is over.

81. Commodore Adams - December 5, 2012

It would a treat for fans but I highly doubt it will happen. Any Trek fan will know with regards to the mistake with Enterprise’s final episode. Yea they thought it would be a nice treat for the fans but by adding TNG to Enterprise in my opinion took the spotlight away from the Enterprise crew. At first I though holy shit this is wicked, but at the end of the episode I was thinking what a rip, what a shitty way to end Enterprise, Thanks Berman.

Nimoy, ok, it was a nice touch but beyond that, I think it would ruin this new style of Trek. You start putting Shatner in or TNG cast members and its starts to seem odd and fake.

Michael Dorn was to be a Klingon in Into Darkness which would have been incredible because he would not be playing a TNG character nor would he be a member of the house of Mogh, he would have simply been a Klingon which would have been incredible but alas it didn’t happen. If Dorn as a Klingon didn’t make it in, I doubt any other trek character from other incarnations will make it into JJ’s movies and I don’t have a problem with that. Would be a nice treat but its not imperative.

Don’t take the spot light away from this new cast of characters the way they did with Enterprise. Leave this new Star Trek for the new actors, it belongs to them.

82. Red Dead Ryan - December 5, 2012

As silly as Frakes’ suggestion is, it wasn’t all that long ago that many people here were suggesting that the sequel be a remake of “The Deadly Years” just so that we could get the surviving original cast members crammed into the movie as older versions of the characters they originally played a long time ago but in the new timeline…

83. sean - December 5, 2012

I think this is just Jonathan saying, ‘Hey, anything could happen, never say never’. He’s not making a legit pitch to be in the new series.

84. crazydaystrom - December 5, 2012

22&65. Spock Jenkins
“The crew of the Kelvin sported The Enterprise Starfleet Insignia, but Pre-Kirk Era/Kirk-Era Starfleet ships should have all had their own insignias, correct?”
Correct, sir. I too was looking forward to and hoping for the distinctive ship insignia, as really it should’ve been.

“I’m even hoping somewhere down the line we get to see the Motion Picture ‘Pyjamas’ again ( even for a prologue or something ), they were so Sci-Fi ’70s…”

I thought I was the only one who didn’t despise those unis with a passion. They were MUCH more science fiction-y than the ones used from TWOK to TUDC, which I never really liked so much. Though I must admit they eventually grew on me, sorta.

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86. Lt.LanaShelby - December 5, 2012

How about giving Frakes a “Titan” series?

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88. Jack - December 5, 2012

85. If you would have asked Leonard Nimoy 5 years ago if he thought he’d reprise his spock roll in a 2009 star trek movie without shatner and any of the original cast, he would have said you were crazy–but it happened.

Except Nimoy wasn’t in two movies that nearly killed the franchise. And fans certainly didn’t seem thrilled when The finale of Enterprise turned into a TNG episode.

I think the danger with Trek is that the stars start to think it’s about *them* and the fans want to see *them,*– heck, even the writers start to think that it’s their writing that people want And that they’ve figured out the formula. But that’s been when the worst Trek (and the worst Star Wars) has been made…

So stories become formulaic and the actors eventually play themselves.

Heck, look at Michael Dorn thinking fans will cough up $750K to see him and Marina Sirtis in a romcom… It’s ‘they love us, they’ll see us in anything!’

89. The 12th Doctor - December 5, 2012

#26

They had a great send off. It was called “All Good Things…”

Let it be.

90. Xplodin_Nacelle - December 5, 2012

I would love it if the somehow incorporated the “Countdown” stroyline into canon on-screen. This would be kind’ve in the way that Wars fans are hoping Disney will do w/ the Timothy Zahn books.

91. Spock Jenkins - December 5, 2012

Crazy Daystrom,

I LOVE the pyjama uniforms – so much, I’m trying to track down all the comics ( the few that there are ) which feature them.

According to Memory Alpha, the badge issue is a strange one – apparently, TOS series never stated in actual fact that each ship had a different insignia, so it could be implied that the different insignias could have referred to a differing assignment fleet i.e. one for Exploration, one for military, etc.

I don’t know how that goes down with anyone else?

92. boborci - December 5, 2012

FYI. I love Frakes and TNG.

93. captain_neill - December 5, 2012

Love Frakes and TNG lots and TNG needed a stronger farewell movie than Nemesis.

94. Spock Jenkins - December 5, 2012

Boborci, Pleeeasse can we have a cameo from the Motion Picture Pyjama uniforms somewhere down the line??

They were in use just 2.5 years after the end of the 5 year mission, so chronologically, they could maybe appear in STAR TREK 3?? Pretty please???

People kind of act like they never existed…

95. Greg2600 - December 5, 2012

This movie series will have destroyed the entire Federation and Earth by Riker’s time, so he’ll never exist.

96. Allen Williams - December 5, 2012

I would like to see a DS9 movie. I was always curious to see ever Sisko ever got back from the prophets.

97. Curious Cadet - December 5, 2012

@95 Greg,

Haha, that’s exactly what I’ve been thinking. If the entire fleet is literally detonated in this next film, then that’s a lot of DNA that never makes it into the gene pool. Heck considering the destruction of Vulcan and related starships, the gene pool has already been substantially thinned, and any original Vulcan character born after that is quite likely not going to exist, or at a minimum not serve in Starfleet.

My feeling is that the 2350s are going to look considerably different.

98. RAO - December 5, 2012

You don’t take your grandparents to a hard rock concert, therefore you don’t put TNG guys into JJ Trek.

99. Rose (as in Keachick) - December 5, 2012

#98 Really? That depends on how old your grandparents are. Bear in mind that many of those hard rockers are now grandparents. It’s certainly not your father’s, just granddad’s…Rod Stewart is now a grandfather. He came from the original hard rock era.

I have few problems with the early series of TNG. In fact, I can happily watch them without feeling “Oh God, not that episode. I don’t think I can watch that right now”. Not so with some of the later series. Each series had its good and bad ones. Also, I only really have one “I can’t stand or not like that character (actor)”, Denise Crosby as Tasha Yar and later Sela – the characters/actress really irritate me. I’m not sure why. Everyone else was fine, even Wesley Crusher, as long as there was not too much of him. Most of the time, a good balance was maintained as to who got screen time and how much.

Riker had a sense of humour – loved the episode where he told Picard to pick up a *horndog for him from Risa or something like that. It had that meaning, especially when on display…:) Star Trek always managed to be humourous, especially TOS and TNG. With the later series, the stories and characters seemed to take themselves a bit too seriously a little too often. Have a good sense of humour is one of the signs of intelligence…

Chris Pine noted that there was humour in STID. I sincerely hope so!

* I just can’t recall the actual name of the Risan artifact, but it sounded a bit like horndog…:)

100. Eric Qel-Droma - December 5, 2012

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Horga%27hn

There you go. I still carry one of these around with me everywhere I go, but all it does is remind me of just how not on Risa I am. :-/

101. Jack - December 5, 2012

So does that mean we’ll see TNG teasers, or more, in this one or the next, Bob?

Big TNG fan, but I get a little grumpy about Insurrection and Nemesis.

102. Red Dead Ryan - December 5, 2012

Admiral Pike wore an updated variation of the TMP admiral’s uniform during Kirk’s promotion scene.

I thought that was a neat touch. Don’t really need any of the Enterprise crew wearing the TMP “pyjamas” though, even if they are updated.

I prefer the yellow, blue and red tunics atop black undershirts and pants.

103. Mel - December 5, 2012

“It would involve our usual time travel/quantum anomaly/black hole/some sci‑fi version of how we all get there.”

Just no. After the first movie I hope for something else. And so or so please no TNG actors.

104. VulcanFilmCritic - December 6, 2012

@94 I actually liked the pajama uniforms! They made more sense than II-VI’s overly-structured uniforms, which seemed more suitable for dress parade than for sitting on the bridge or beaming down on a planet for some kind of mission. Sure those maroon tunics hid bulging guts and flabby man-titties but I can’t imagine anyone outside of late, late middle age wearing them to do anything but walking.

105. Damian - December 6, 2012

99–It was called a Horgon.

106. chrisfawkes.com - December 6, 2012

TNG was great on tv but the characters are not something that could pull a crowd on a big screen imo.

First contact worked because the Borg were great characters.

The Kirk,Spock,McCoy dynamic was always going to be a winner.

107. Anonymous - December 6, 2012

Whomever the true identity of the villian turns out to be in #INTODARKNESS I applaud the cast and crew (JJ, you have outdone yourself once again! You and everybody involved have made this die-hard Trek fan PROUD!) I can totally see the meshing of post-apocalyptic Prime TNG timeline crew going into the alternate timeline to rescue Prime Spock and recruit alternate TOS crew to save the Prime Universe from ultimate destruction from…

Here is a small hint…

“I am the One who has brought order to your chaos. I am your God. I am your King. I am the Borg. Resistance is… Only an illusion. Prepare for the end of your existence as you have come to know it.”

Ugh, I have no clue why I have had this storyline etched into my psyche but I think I am going to sit down and flesh it out into some kind of treatment and who knows maybe just maybe the “Powers That Be” at CBS/Paramount would be open-minded enough to hear me out.

Jonathan Frakes, if you happen to come across this I have been a big fan of your Riker character and can totally see Captain Riker and the U.S.S. Titan playing a big role in my “THE REVENGE OF THE BORG KING PROPHECIUS” episodic storyline.

Another peek into my head:

Seven of Nine
William Shatner’s Kirk brought back to life
B-4 and Lieutenant Commander Wesley Crusher play a HUGE role

And many more ideas.

108. xenoc - December 6, 2012

#58 re: ” I still see JJ’s as its own alternate universe (not even a different timeline, per se)”

Easiest way to explain it is that the timeline had already been changed numerous times by the time of the Kelvin. Let’s stay with the idea that all of the time travel in TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT (put last deliberately even in-story) was of the “time can be rewritten” variety, to quote the non-holographic Doctor.

By the time of ENT, how many timeline incursions and rewritings had happened by Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway and their crew? Kirk went back to the 20th century at least 4 or 5 times. Sisko went to the early-mid 21st and played a critical historical role, maybe not quite the way it first happened. Nog and Quark were at Roswell in the mid-20th, “after” these events. Janeway was in the late 20th. Around the “same time” as that, “after” Sisko, Quark, Kirk’s incursions and alterations, the Borg went back to the mid-21st and Picard followed. Zephram Cochrane learned about much more than he knew the “first time”. All this happened both before ENT and “before” ENT.

Now, look at “Enterprise” – chock-a-block with temporal incursions of various types, including Archer popping back to WW2 and also to early 21st century Detroit. Never mind that his own timeline had been vastly altered by Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, and Quark, giving hints of what was out there and likely accelerating the creation of fast large starships, he himself was deeply caught up in time wars. Future Guy. Daniels. So by the time of Kelvin, the multiply-rewritten single timeline was in tatters.

I see Kelvin as a direct follow-on to Earth Starfleet’s Enterprise. But the NX01 probably never happened in the original timeline of TOS. As to the logo, note that the Earth Starfleet logo for UNESPA is just the TOS NCC1701 and later all-Starfleet logo rotated 90º. Highly related to our present day NASA and Roscosmos logos too.

Even the huge size and the concrete and steel and water engineering can be fanwanked as reverting to ancient forms of huge mass shielding nuclear-type reactors, repurposed for the ridiculously oversized and overextended warp cores needed to power such a giant ship – far beyond early Federation shielding technology. All the advance warnings from the future of threats caused them to upscale ships beyond what they could support. So on the NX01 it was an early but “normal” engine room, but by the time of the Kelvin and the revised, larger, earlier NCC1701, they had to use mass amounts of Three Mile Island-style concrete and water.

So I have no problem with the Kelvin. Except for the tri-band mobile ham radio antenna for 6m/2m/70cm on the bridge nav console – I had the same one on the back of my car!

109. LastBorgStanding - December 6, 2012

Besides all its flaws, TNG has been, is and will be my favorite Trek. Still I don’t see how to bring back members of the cast (!) back to to silver screen. Plus, as others mentioned already, TNG lives from the stories, not the actors. Although I like Frakes and Spiner, especially at Cons, they aren’t really exceptional actors. In my humble opinion, there are only three members of the cast who earn this title, Stewart, Goldberg, and *whooooops* DeLancy!

If JJmount ever considers a fun flick like ST:TVH and to bring a TNG character back, it’ll better be Q! DeLancy’s son wasn’t that bad either, so both could be Q, like having fun while changing “his” appearance.

110. Rastor728 - December 6, 2012

Pike has stranded Kahn on Ceti Alpha 5 decades ago. As an augment, Kahn has superior strength to even Klingons (who found the survivors).
Kahn ravages a Klingon planet in his escape to take his revenge on Earth that had rejected them a long time ago.

111. Brainulo - December 8, 2012

Bottom line?

I am just so grateful that with ST09, Trek was finally given the Cadillac tratment by an insanely talented group of creative people who held a deep and abiding emotional investment in making TREK a financial and artistic success.

I just had my 52nd birthday….TOS has been a part of my DNA since my family and I watched it’s original broadcast run on NBC…before I was old enough to even come close to being able to fully appreciate it. It shaped me then…..it continues to do so to this day.

I am filled with joy to know it continues to be reinvented by new artists for the enjoyment of the audiences of the future.

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