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UPDATED: New Star Trek Into Darkness Images From Entertainment Weekly + More Exceprts From Abrams, Quinto & Orci February 7, 2013

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The new Entertainment Weekly cover feature for Star Trek Into Darkness has some exclusive new images from the movie. These are being teased by EW today and you can check them out below along with another synopsis of the film. UPDATE: More excerpts from the issue, including Roberto Orci on the future of Trek (now that JJ has signed on to do Star Wars).    



New Star Trek Into Darkness Images In Entertainment Weekly

As we reported yesterday, the new issue of Entertainment Weekly (on newstands Friday) features two collectible Star Trek covers. Today EW is teasing more of the issue including this synopsis of the film:

 What is known: This time around the headstrong Kirk violates Starfleet orders and jeopardizes his command in order to take the Enterprise on the trail of a terrorist who launches spirit-crushing attacks on London and San Francisco. Sherlock star ­Benedict Cumberbatch plays the bad guy in question, a man called John Harrison who’s described by co-writer Alex Kurtzman as a ”member of Starfleet who turns on Starfleet.”

And here are the new photos…

Zachary Quinto and Chris Pine in "Star Trek Into Darkness"

Benedict Cumberbatch as John Harrison surrounded by security team

Chris Pine hanging on (again)

Zoe Saldana in her wet suit costume

JJ Abrams and Alex Kurtzman on the set

More excerpts from the issue available at EW.com.

UPDATE: More from Abrams, Quinto and Orci

TrekMovie had a chance to read the feature story and here are a couple more excerpts…

Abrams on the four-year gap between his two Star Trek films…

"It would have been better probably for the studio [if we’d put it out earlier], because it would have been fresher in people’s minds. But I’m happy we didn’t rush it. It wouldn’t have been a better movie if it came out earlier. I know that. "

Quinto on Spock and Uhura’s relationship

I think we tapped into something in the first film that a lot of people weren’t expecting, which is the emotional undercurrent and how powerfully it runs through him. That continues in this film. There are things that happen to him—and things that he’s part of–that are incredibly personal… That was really exciting for me both physically and emotionally"

Roberto Orci on Abrams directing Star Wars and future of Trek

For J.J. this is achieving a childhood dream–Star Wars is waht got him in the business. So Watching him go to his super Bowl like this? It’s genuinely joyful for mr. [But] as a guy who is in love with Star Trek and in love with this version of it? It puts a scared lump on my throat. It’s like hearing one of the band members is going to do a solo album. I know Star Wars is going to be the better for it. And I suspect Star Trek will be fine with the rest of us here."

Buy Issues Online

You can buy the both collectible covers as a set at EW.com for $9.98 (or individually for $4.99).


1. Flaming Nacelles Forever - February 7, 2013


2. SuperDan89 - February 7, 2013

Looks epic!

3. Josh C. - February 7, 2013

so Harrison is ”member of Starfleet who turns on Starfleet”

soo…that will end the Khan talk right? RIGHT?

*doesn’t hold breath*

4. SuperDan89 - February 7, 2013

Oh and mmmm Zoe Saldana <3

5. Emperor Mike of the Empire - February 7, 2013

I bet 100,000 Quatlos that we see 5 Red Shirt deaths.
Any taker’s.

6. Emperor Mike of the Empire - February 7, 2013

Where’s Cupcake?

7. Danpaine - February 7, 2013

3. Josh C. – February 7, 2013
so Harrison is ”member of Starfleet who turns on Starfleet”

soo…that will end the Khan talk right? RIGHT?

*doesn’t hold breath*


Right on. I wish.

8. Phil - February 7, 2013

@5.I’ll see your 100K, and give you 15 on the over/under….

9. Craiger - February 7, 2013

I wonder how fans will like it now we that know that the bad guy is just a member regular member of Starfleet with no augment genes? Would that be boring that he ends up not being a canon villain? Unless he is Robert April deaged? But wouldn’t Starfleet know he is April deaged from his photos from when he was in Starfleet?

10. Emperor Mike of the Empire - February 7, 2013

#8. Ok Phill. You are on. I bet another 50,000 Quatlos that we see at least 10 red shirt deaths for the whole movie.

11. Craiger - February 7, 2013

Sorry I put member twice in my last post.

12. T'Cal - February 7, 2013

Dead red men walking!

13. Emperor Mike of the Empire - February 7, 2013

#9. I think that John could really be Lord Garth who Killed John and took over and is now using that form to try and take over Starfleet.

14. T'Cal - February 7, 2013

BTW, why does Kirk always ends up dangling from some precipice?

15. Josh C. - February 7, 2013

9 – I’m not sure we can say he has no “augment” genes.

One of my thoughts is that he is secretly an augment – either a decent from the eugenics wars, or perhaps even self-made if he’s a geneticist. And perhaps (if he is the former), one of the things he’s fighting for is augment-rights or something.

He could still be a member of starfleet. There is evidence that he is more than just an average human, in any case. Of course, being an augment doesn’t necessarily = Khan either.

16. Emperor Mike of the Empire - February 7, 2013

Well. Kirk likes Danger. .

17. James McFadden - February 7, 2013

i like Uhura’s suit

18. James McFadden - February 7, 2013

I think that CBS Paramount should be able to do a 12-season show simply called Star Trek in 2017 or 2018. It would be set in the Alternate Reality, from 2266-2278 or even from 2260-2280. The stories that take place up until the 2260s could be produced by Pocket Books, Gallery Books and IDW. It is a good way for Bad Robot and CBS Paramount to proceed with the new Star Trek franchise. Maybe Bad Robot and Paramount will also be able to get involved in Star Trek Phoenix and Star Trek Renegades.

19. Dee - lvs moon' surface - February 7, 2013

OK! … Uhura looks great in wet suit… but I WANT to see Kirk, Bones and Sulu in wet suit!!! PLEASE!!!… ;-) :-)

20. Craiger - February 7, 2013

Mike Kirk asks Harrison, who are you?

21. SirBroiler - February 7, 2013

Anyone notice the update to Benedict on IMDB’s Into Darkness page?

It now lists him as Khan (rumored).

22. Red Dead Ryan - February 7, 2013


Well there are already five Redshirts surrounding John Harrison in that photo….

23. AJ - February 7, 2013

Looks like that mean old redshirt on the right is secretly checking out Harrison’s bum.

And you know those five guys are all toast.

24. Phil - February 7, 2013

@21. That has been there for months….anyone can change it. I can take it off the Wikipedia page for coounterbalance…

25. Damian - February 7, 2013

22–LOL, that was my first thought as well.

It seems Bob Orci, at least, is at least suggesting Abrams will not be back to direct the next Star Trek film, though he did seem to confirm he will be back.

26. Yanks - February 7, 2013

“That was really exciting for me both physically and emotionally”

Really Zachary? ;-)

27. Jefferies Tuber - February 7, 2013

Star Wars is what got JJ in the business… not his TV producer dad Gerry? Nice bio retcon.

28. Skulltrail - February 7, 2013

Hey … Great News … There is a excerpt of issue 2 of the countdown to darkness Comic. You can see it in the iBooks store for example :-)

29. Jefferies Tuber - February 7, 2013

I’m really struck my the whiteness of JJ Trek. With all the modernization they’ve engaged in, to excellent effect, the movies seem retrograde in their constant use of white people. 1 in 3 people alive today is Chinese or Indian, but Trek seems to have an endless supply of Europeans in command positions, in red shirts, etc. Yeah yeah, Tyler Perry… blah blah Uhura replacing McCoy. Still: White Trek.

30. Moonwatcher - February 7, 2013

A sad day as we recognize the passing of a make-up legend Stuart Freeborn. An illusionist par excellence! The first time I saw the ape-men in 2001: a space odyssey as a kid, I was convinced those were real apes. He continued to add his talents to many memorable films such as Star Wars, Superman etc. R.I.P. Mr. Freeborn!

31. PEB - February 7, 2013

@Craiger …he might be a member of Starfleet but nobody said he doesnt have augment genes…. :)

32. BeyondtheTech - February 7, 2013

@14, I complained to boborci that Kirk was getting choked throughout the last movie, hanging from a precipice seems to have come in a close second as well. Looks like he’s still hanging in #2, let’s just pray there’s less choking as well.

33. JUST SAYIN' - February 7, 2013

Has anyone noticed on the star trek app that you cannot scan the pic of kirk and dr. Marcus??? Its getting frustrating.

34. LizardGirl - February 7, 2013

“…as a guy who is in love with Star Trek and in love with this version of it? It puts a scared lump on my throat. It’s like hearing one of the band members is going to do a solo album. I know Star Wars is going to be the better for it. And I suspect Star Trek will be fine with the rest of us here.”–Bob Orci

That….kind of sounds like a goodbye. Is this Goodbye JJ? I surely hope not!

35. Craiger - February 7, 2013

PEB – Do you really know if he has augment genes? Some have suggested that just because we see him flying down to take on the Klingon but I thought that could just be gravity and he is hitting that Klingon with that huge gatlin gun to take him down.

36. Craiger - February 7, 2013

Sorry I should have said I have suggested not some have suggested.

37. Phil - February 7, 2013

I’m okay with JJ not directing the third installment. Not under any illusions any of the creative team will be around for part 4. A lot of this speculation goes away with a simple statement from Paramount that writers for the third movie have been retained.

38. Josh C. - February 7, 2013

28 – arg! I can barely read the screenshots on their browser page. I guess I’ll have to wait until I get home. All I could make out was that April was the captain of an Enterprise before this one (so that bunks the “training cruise” theory). Now…the question is whether that’s the NX-01 or ANOTHER Enterprise in the line?

Also, if it was created BEFORE Nero first arrived, wouldn’t that create canon in the prime universe as well?

33 – The only thing I had a problem scanning was Bad Robot’s logo cause I couldn’t find one with the yellow background good enough for it to recognize the scan for a while, heh

39. Luther Sloan - February 7, 2013


40. Mad Mann - February 7, 2013

I’m still looking to see if there are any “easter eggs” in the displays of those shots. I wonder if there are any trekmovie references…

41. John - February 7, 2013

Cumberbatch is not John Harrison he’s Khan, EW has spoiled it!


42. Skulltrail - February 7, 2013

April’s Enterprise was decommissioned 2 years before and Kirk got the new one but April was thought to be dead since 20 years fallen on a mission

43. Craiger - February 7, 2013

#42 – April Commanded the same Enterprise in the original timeline that Pike and Kirk did. April did the shakedown cruise. Unless in Abrams new AU their was another Enterprise before Pike’s and Kirk.

44. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013

Is the cat out of the bag? IS he KHAN? Is this true?

You decide


45. Skulltrail - February 7, 2013

But that would explain the theory that we have seen the 1701-A already in the 09 Movie

46. Craiger - February 7, 2013

If it is Khan, how could Khan get into Starfleet without Starfleet recognizing who Khan is from history photos? Unless Khan and his people take over a Starfleet ship and borrow the Starfleet uniforms from the ship?

47. Craiger - February 7, 2013

#45 – Its not the 1701-A it just kind of looks like it. I think Bob or Alex said that when they were abandoning the Kelvin the shuttles scanned the Narada and backward engineered that the tech and that is why the TOS 1701 looks more advanced and like the 1701-A.

48. Craiger - February 7, 2013

#44 – They could just assume its Khan.

49. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013

EW rarely does something like that…..

50. Jefferies Tuber - February 7, 2013

In case the EW Spoiler page disappears: http://imgur.com/5HBDxLz

51. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013

EW rarely does something like that….. and here’s EW: http://backissues.ew.com/storefront/2013/voyage-into-the-new-star-trek-kirk-khan/prodEW20130215A.html

52. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013

So looks like we now know…

53. Aix - February 7, 2013

Oh, Orci nailed it. I feel you, Bob.

Cumby looks to have something on his face. Isn’t that like a milder version of the make-up of the little girl in the hospital?

Can they not talk about Star Wars in a Star Trek issue, please. Yikes, how childish of me, but can they not!!!!

54. Josh C. - February 7, 2013

43 – That’s what we’re saying. In the Preview of comic #2, April says he commanded a DIFFERENT Enterprise from Kirk’s. Now, whether that’s NX-01, a new CANON (even in the prime universe) Enterprise, or one built after Nero arrived (seemingly likely since he was in prison for 25 years)

44 – no. My guess is the title is merely about the speculation

55. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013


All kinds of possibilities.. don’t know.. maybe they knew who he was ala Spock Prime, but thought they could control him this time around?

56. Theskulltrail - February 7, 2013


I totally agree with you that we saw a much more advanced Enteprise in the last movie caused by the Narada Incident but it’s predecessor wasn’t the NX-01 otherwise it wouldn’t be called April’s Enteprise instead of Archer’s Enterprise!

57. Punkspocker - February 7, 2013

I think EW just made a huge mistake. Seriously, how would they know? And why would anyone on the inside tell them? All the clueless entertainment rags are still talking about khan.

58. BRF - February 7, 2013

It tells us nothing regarding Khan speculation to say that Cumberbatch’s character is/was a member of Starfleet. Nothing! The whole name of the game here is to reimagine, reimagine, reimagine. All JJ and Co. had to do was to ask something as simple as, “What if Khan’s origins were _within_ Starfleet?” And you’re off to the races.

Getting my speculation on: I see the filmmakers aiming at relevance and commentary, and wonder if we’ll see a parallel in the film with US support of the mujahideen in the 80s and the rise of the Taliban in the 90s. Something like: Starfleet or some sort of skunk works in Starfleet starts a eugenics/enhancement program, then when it’s served its purpose tries to shut it down, ignore it, and get rid of what/whom it’s created, including John Harrison. Harrison loses loved ones, Harrison righteously fights back. (A touch of Frankenstein in there, too, now that I think about it.)

59. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013

57 — they might have made a mistake in announcing it, but how would they know? They are the ones getting exclusives. I’m sure they were told!

60. Rose (as in Keachick) - February 7, 2013

@Bob Orci – How is JJ Abrams directing one Star Wars movie any different from him and his Bad Robot company making Super 8?

Apart from the fact that Star Wars and Star Trek are (competing) sci-fi franchises, Episode VII is still just one movie.

#41 It is yet another presumption that John Harrison is really Khan, such is the idiotic obsession with this mere (Khan) wart on Kirk’s backside who was readily dispatched more than 30 years ago. Having Khan on the cover sells copy.

61. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013

Rose, why would it sell covers? I don’t get that.. It’s funny people say “Khan is the past, so no one would be interested but fans” and others say “Khan sells.” The “Khan sells” also explains why he would be done again.

62. PC3 - February 7, 2013

21 – It’s been that way for months now.

63. Trekkiegal63 - February 7, 2013

Why do I have a feeling that the EW webmaster is about to encounter the Wrath of Paramount ®… poor guy (or gal).

64. Red Dead Ryan - February 7, 2013


First, a couple of years ago you were denying that the sequel would be delayed despite the mounting evidence.

Now, despite the mounting evidence, you deny John Harrison being Khan.

Looks like you (and a lot of others on this site) are going to be eating crow three times a day for the next several months….

65. LizardGirl - February 7, 2013

EW…I’m not sure what they were thinking but we were given the name of Benedict’s character. Benedict’s character is John Harrison.

66. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013


As if movies never have alt-Ids used for characters..

67. Luther Sloan - February 7, 2013

63 – You’re right…

68. Skulltrail - February 7, 2013

I hope it is not Khan but I can come clear with it cause it’s a brand new other story but I’ve not given up Mr. Robert April! So by having the fact it can still be April’s Enterprise crashing into the water while it looks not so Advanced like Kirk’s and within the trailer seeing Cumberbatch sitting on this dark bridge it could be Aprils/Cumberbatch’s Enterprise .. But it is hard to say how he could get her back! And what’s about the Civilian war on Phaedus? Could it be that he is seeking revenge that the Federation is not helping them? But maybe it only caused by I am wishing that too much … Doesn’t April not looks like much more like an old Cumberbatch in the second issue especially compared to the picture here where is surrounded by the red guards?

69. The Sinfonian - February 7, 2013

It’s a rhetorical use of Khan. Harrison is the new “Khan”, the new *villain*. Nothing to see, move along.

70. Picard, Jean-Luc - February 7, 2013

Does “Star Trek will be fine with the rest of us here” mean Orci, Kurtzman and Lindeloff will be keepers of the sacred rings of betazed and Star Trek until Abrams decides whether or not to return to direct a third movie?

71. Aix - February 7, 2013

I think EW just tagged it as Khan because it has a nicer ring to it unlike “Kirk and Harrison”. They need something with umph.

But what a dissapointment if it is indeed Khan.UGH. After all this build-up?

72. Alternatim - February 7, 2013

Nero’s incursion causes Botany Bay to be discovered shortly after … by the Klingons. They awaken Khan earlier than in the original universe, so instead of being a contemporary of Kirk, Khan is old enough to be Kirk’s father. But Khan has a child of his own, mating with a no-head-ridge Klingon to produce a son named “John Harrison.” This humanoid/augment/Klingon is planted on Earth, where he rises through the ranks at Starfleet until one day committing a terrorist act against the Federation before fleeing back to Kronos. The rest is history.

73. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013


No, not at all. How could it be “rhetorical use.” Khan isn’t a name for most people to use to describe villains in films. Sorry, it’s more than that..

74. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013

71 They didn’t have to do an “and anything.” They could have said many things. Tagging “Khan” isn’t what you do for a magazine like EW… sorry..

75. Jefferies Tuber - February 7, 2013

KO Paper confirms: Khaaaaaaaan!

76. M - February 7, 2013

I think it is an assumption on the part of EW because some websites like IMDB still list Cumberbatch as playing Khan.

77. Jefferies Tuber - February 7, 2013


78. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013

76 M

Wrong. EW doesn’t rely upon IMDB. They are a professional journalistic magazine.

79. Anthony Lewis - February 7, 2013

I don’t think EW would just up and do that without knowing something first.

80. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013

As one who hoped it would be someone like Garth, for variety, but yet thought Khan was a good chance… I don’t get why people are quick to dismiss EW… who gets exclusives..

81. Michael - February 7, 2013

He is, in fact, Khan.

82. LizardGirl - February 7, 2013


You’re right. It does happen. It just seems like less of a headache to accept the official info.

83. TUP - February 7, 2013

Help me out here:

I get that the Enterprise looks different (and was launched at a different point) due to the Nerada’s presence.

Is Robert April old enough to have commanded Archer’s Enterprise?

Also, BC as Khan makes NO SENSE. However, I am holding out hope that KHAN is in the movie. Heres my theory: BC is a descendent of Khan, hence the “family” connection.

His quest is to destroy Starfleet, either to prepare for Khan’s return, to carry on his mission or perhaps the Klingons find the Sleeper Ship and are now holding Khan’s people hostage. When the Federation wont negotiate for their release, BC takes action.

So in a way, what he is doing is good. He’s fighting against the hostage taking Klingons, fighting to save his family, fighting to use genetic engineering technology that is outlawed in the Fed but could be used for good.

The move ends with Khan waking or a door closing that seals the still-sleeping BB inhabitants in a secure facility.

84. oliver - February 7, 2013

Indiewire’s following comments are typical of what people are thinking:

“With all the buzz around “Star Wars: Episode 7″ it kinda just seems like “Star Trek Into Darkness” is sort of this thing in the way that both J.J. Abrams and audiences just have to get over before we return to a galaxy far, fary away. ”

which is worrying. The Star Trek producers need to come up with a new pr strategy for Star Trek into darkness as there’s a an air of JJ leaving a sinking ship.

85. Garth Faction - February 7, 2013

EW seems quite a mouthpiece for official news..

86. AJ - February 7, 2013

I wonder if “Khan” will give Mr. Chekhov the once-over in this flick to assuage/pay homage to that fan-boy tick that occurs when, in TWOK, Khan recognizes Chekhov and spits out his name, after never having actually met him before.

87. Anthony Lewis - February 7, 2013

@84 – The Star Trek producers need to come up with a new pr strategy for Star Trek into darkness as there’s a an air of JJ leaving a sinking ship.

Movies that make nearly 400 million aren’t sinking ships. Nor do people leaving them maintain a commitment to produce (which is all JJ ever had with this move before deciding to direct).

Maybe with some other guy it might fly, but at any one point JJ has like 50 ships in the water.

88. Damian - February 7, 2013

84–The announcement of a new Star Wars movie has stolen some of Star Trek’s thunder it seems.

89. Aix - February 7, 2013

If he does not turn up to be Khan in the end, I will bow down to Star Trek’s marketing team.

I still think it was intentional, you know. For it to produce this exact kind of speculation (again and again) in the interwebs.

90. Damian - February 7, 2013

87–Star Trek Into Darkness hasn’t proven anything yet. We are all assuming it’s going to be a blockbuster. Likely true, but I have no doubt the announcement of Star Wars has deflated Star Trek’s balloon just a bit.

I always believed Star Trek is better than Star Wars, but I’m not blind either. Star Wars has a more broad-based audience. That does have an effect. Now that’s what everyone is talking about. Star Trek has become the, “oh, yeah, that one too.”

91. Silvereyes - February 7, 2013

# 84

“there’s a an air of JJ leaving a sinking ship.”

Quite true and well put. I don’t know why this should be the case, as Star Trek in general and STID in particular stand on their own and should not be affected by anything hapening in the SW Universe, but the feeling is there nonetheless.

Quite frankly, the announcement that JJ will direct SW VII could not have come at a worse time, especially after JJ said he wouldn’t consider directing SW out of respect for Star Trek… What does he have to say about that now? Very bad judgement call on JJ’s part and very disingenuous…

92. AJ - February 7, 2013

EW has always had a soft spot for Star Trek.

84: oliver

Whoever “Indiewire” is, they have their head stuck to geek-fringe Internet entertainment sites and not the real world, like the Superbowl and mainstream media, who are absolutely loving the progression of teasers and trailers for STID. ST is definitely on the rise for May 2013, and is not a ‘sinking ship.’ It’s also THE breakout popcorn cinema role for Benedict Cumberbatch, who is insanely popular around the world.

The Star Wars backlash has already started on the geek sites against Young Yoda, Young Han Solo, Young Boba Fett, and Young Palpatine movie rumors, with some speculating that the character arcs, as left by Lucas after ROTS, could be spoiled. Leave them be. Luke, Leia and Han, however, are in JJ’s hands (we hope).

Star Trek is fine, and getting better.

93. Rose (as in Keachick) - February 7, 2013

#58 – “a parallel in the film with US support of the mujaheddin in the 80s and the rise of the Taliban in the 90s…”

Yes and unfortunately, this support given to this group has allowed them to come back to bite us (western nations) in the bum.

I think the notion that US (along with most of the west) politics went with was – “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, ie the Soviet Union was the enemy of both the US and the Mujaheddin (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran). I think, if any lesson is learned here, is that you can’t necessarily give support to an enemy of your enemy without first ascertaining if they may indeed turn out to be your enemy as well. Clearly, some of these Muslim/Arab states do not like the US/Western style politics and culture any more than they liked the Soviet/communist style politics and culture.

94. Damian - February 7, 2013

92–Before the whole Star Wars announcement, a lot of people were talking about Star Trek Into Darkness. But now you have Star Wars movies. The general population already seemed to move past Star Trek and are all speculating about Star Wars.

I don’t think Star Trek is a sinking ship or anything that drastic. I think it’s more that it just took some of the air out of the room. Star Trek should do well, there just does not seem to be as much excitement about it now.

95. Craiger - February 7, 2013

Not to sound all doom and gloom but if STID fails how long would It be before Paramount or CBS would attempt to reboot Trek again? I guess STID would have to earn what ST 2009 made in order for the third one to be given a go?

96. Jemini - February 7, 2013

I prefer the cover with Kirk and Spock, I get that Cumberbatch is the big fat enemy of the movie but sometimes it’s nice to have pictures of the big 7 too since, after all, they’re supposed to be the protagonists.

Interesting quote by Quinto about S/U (and about Spock in general)

Zoe Saldana in her wet suit costume is the hottest she doesn’t even need to try (and don’t say that the writers are sexist. In the first nine minutes the guys were wearing that tight costume too)

97. No Khan - February 7, 2013

If Khan is in this movie. Then I’m sure glad the Supreme Court are not involved in Star Wars 7. Other wise it would be nothing but a recycling of previous Star Wars movies.

98. Anthony Lewis - February 7, 2013

Yes #97 because is the three hours of screen time Khan has gotten in the near 50 year history of Trek we have told every possible story there is to tell.

WAY over used. Not like The Joker at all. Errr except that the role keeps getting redefined and is still great despite having countless hours of screen time.

99. With Fans Like These... - February 7, 2013

Ha! Cumberbatch is Khan. End of discussion.

February 15, 2013

In this week’s issue of Entertainment Weekly, an inside look at Star Trek Into Darkness, the hotly anticipated second installment of J.J. Abrams’ reboot of the Trek franchise. Plus, more on Kerry Washington and the crazy joy of Scandal.


100. Anthony Lewis - February 7, 2013

I think people are confusing people on movie web sites as counting for the public at large”.

Most casual moviegoers I know still aren’t sure they will be good since the last three left a lot to be desired. There is a reason the Phantom Menace 3D re-release BOMBED.

Cinefile know better, that Disney will do good by the property and JJ will be a great director, but most casual people don’t care about such details and only look back to the last movies to set their bar for the newer ones.

101. Craiger - February 7, 2013

I wonder if Abrams is pissed now if EW is right and John Harrison is just Khan’s alias? Kirk says “Who are you in the trailer.” Maybe Harrison says to Kirk – “Perhaps you now me by my proper name, Khan Noonien Singh.” “I have returned to take my rightful place as Earth’s ruler!!!”

102. vva - February 7, 2013

#100 Most 3D re-releases bomb that aren’t cartoons, especially for a title readily available on DVD/Blu-Ray.

The fact is the prequels made a ton of money, all three of them.

103. Rose (as in Keachick) - February 7, 2013

Rumours about Khan being in this next movie have been around for years now. The fact that EW have the names Kirk and Khan on their cover means nothing to me. It is just more of the same bs we have been seeing for years. The only announcement I will heed is an official announcement that comes from the Paramount PR Department/Bad Robot and which can be found on the Paramount Pictures website. The only other acceptable form would be coming from dialogue heard in the official STID trailers, all of course, to be found on the Paramount Pictures website. So far, none of this has occurred.

If Paramount do announce anything, then no doubt Trekmove would be one of the first, if not the first, to announce such news to the world via an article posted to this www. site!

104. Anthony Pascale - February 7, 2013


105. Mel - February 7, 2013

There wasn’t an “emotional UNDERcurrent” in regards to Spock in the last movie. He acted more emotional than most full human characters! It was more like an emotional OVERcurrent.

It kinda takes away the alien aspect of him, if he acts in public as or even more emotional than the full human characters around him. That is kinda sad, because there is no lack of human characters in Star Trek, while there could always be more aliens with speaking roles.

They could have shown the discrepancy between two cultures/races, without using a sledgehammer to make it clear, that he has emotions. Unfortunately it seems, that his will continue in the next movie.

106. Mel - February 7, 2013


…that “this” will continue in the next movie.

107. Josh C. - February 7, 2013

If they leaked it was Khan, do you think they might have, you know, actually reported that in the article, maybe?

108. AJ - February 7, 2013



The prequels made a ton of money, but have been universally panned as really bad movies.

While they frontload the SW universe with batches of new encyclopedic canon facts, they managed to turn Vader into a real villain who didn’t deserve redemption.

Then, tie in the big middle finger GL gave to the fans by retconning ROTJ’s final scene with Hayden Christensen instead of that nice old man as Ghost DV, and the whole story turns to steaming crap.

Disney has quite a bit of work to do to bring the kids back into the cinema.

109. RaveOnEd - February 7, 2013

83 – You’re forgetting something:

Klingons don’t take prisoners.

110. Xeos - February 7, 2013

109 –

Klingons don’t take prisoners? I guess Rura Penthe was a dream?

111. The Professor - February 7, 2013

I apologize if this has been beaten to death, but I do not have time to read all of the posts and have not read this. My guess is that the “Is there anything you would not do for your family?” line has nothing to do with Kirk, Kahn or any of the other main characters . As in many trailers, I suspect that the audio is purposely misplaced for effect. My guess is the BC is speaking to Noel Clarke, convincing him to turn his back on Star Fleet to save his daughter. If someone else said this first, I agree with them.

112. Mel - February 7, 2013

Is there any big Star Wars fansite anyone can recommend? I like to read the reactions from Star Wars fans about Abrams making Star Wars.

113. Josh C. - February 7, 2013

110 – Rura Penthe was a prison. Also, Kirk and McCoy affectively turned themselves over. Also, *in Admiral Akbar voice” It was a trap!

114. SirBroiler - February 7, 2013

The strong anti JJ vibe and pessimism about his approach to Trek is palpable. But when I saw IMAX Hobbit with a bunch of non-Trek fans and they saw the first 9-minutes – every single one of them got excited about this movie. You can’t fault the guy for bringing trek back to a much wider audience. Trek was on death’s door and he’s revived it.

And 111 – spot on. Great observation.

115. Spockchick - February 7, 2013

Dangly Kirk, always dangling.

Where’s my McCoy cover? *pout*

116. Rose (as in Keachick) - February 7, 2013

Chris Pine looks good dangling and climbing, plus it means he does not have to work out in the gym later. He is keeping those fine Pine muscles all stretched, strong and lean …oh, to be paid to keep in fine shape…:)!

I just wish that speck of blood that seems to always be on this Kirk’s face would get washed off…

117. gary s - February 7, 2013

John Harrison is actually a genetically altered Johnathan Archer who has come the get revenge on Scotty for what he did to Porthos.

118. captain_neill - February 7, 2013

If Abrams did not totally ditch the thought provoking side that made Trek stand out as great SF then I think I would like his take on Star Trek more.

I am happy that the ante has been raised in the stakes and in the action, the best Star Trek movies had high stakes and spectacular action. Yet they were balanced out with strong stories and great characters.

With Abrams the characters were what made the film work. It worked emotionally but that’s face it the script was an incoherent mess of a plot, that required plot contrivances to make the whole thing work and a villain whose motivation was not well define and to me was the dumbest villain ever.

Star Trek was always about characters and great story telling, I hate to see the latter lost but I understand why Abrams ditched it but it I wish he hadn’t.

I have confidence that Into Darkness will be a stronger film and I look forward to it. But I do think prine universe had better writing.

119. LogicalLeopard - February 7, 2013

105 Mel

There wasn’t an “emotional UNDERcurrent” in regards to Spock in the last movie. He acted more emotional than most full human characters! It was more like an emotional OVERcurrent.


By my count, Spock was visibly emotional once, when he attacked Kirk. Kissing Uhura doesn’t really count, because Vulcans have been shown to express affection publically, aka the finger thingy between Satellites and Amanda in TOS. Spock could see the kiss as the same thing.

120. ObsessiveStarTrekFan - February 7, 2013

@119. LogicalLeopard

…you mean Sarek and Amanda.

I also didn’t see the 2009 Spock as any more visibly emotional than TOS Spock. There are several occasions in TOS where Spock loses it and attacks Kirk (eg This Side of Paradise) after being provoked by Kirk. Also if you are familiar with TOS then you will also be familiar with Spock’s various, and frequent, emotional facial expressions and comments (eg from Friday’s Child – Kirk: “Yes. I think it’s a name destined to go down in galactic history, Leonard. What do you think, Spock?”
Spock: “I think you’re both going to be insufferably pleased with yourselves for at least a month… Sir”). .

..and who can forget the scene in The Undiscovered Country when Spock slaps Valeris…

I think anyone who thinks the 2009 Spock is too emotional and out of character needs to have another good look at all the TOS episodes. I think perhaps his emotional displays are generally more muted in the TOS movies compared to the episodes, but my memory might be playing tricks on me.

121. Trekkiegal63 - February 7, 2013

#120 ObsessiveStarTrekFan:

“This Side of Paradise” is perhaps not the best example to use of Spock showing emotionalism in TOS considering that he was high as a kite on alien spores. As for “Undiscovered Country”, this takes place after V’ger, where Spock had discovered that “this simple feeling” was okay to experience and indeed after the fal tor pan, where Spock relearns everything, a lot of which came from Kirk and McCoy…

Kirk: A guess? You, Spock? That’s extraordinary.
Spock: [to Dr. McCoy] I don’t think he understands.
McCoy: No, Spock. He means that he feels safer about your guesses than most other people’s facts.

…basically, what I’m trying to say is that by the time Valeris came around, Spock was a lot more at peace with his human heritage than he had been throughout TOS.

I agree with Mel, Spock was a lot more emotionally free in ST2009 then we knew him to be in TOS. But to be fair, he did watch his planet explode and saw his mother die right in front of him, so I always kind of justified the discrepancy in characterization there. It will be interesting to see how they balance him in this new film.

122. ObsessiveStarTrekFan - February 7, 2013

@121. Trekkiegal63

I agree that Spock is ‘high as a kite’ in This side of Paradise, and he’s not himself when Kirk picks a fight with him in Naked Time either. But that’s the point of the fight scene in the 2009 movie: Kirk knows Spock is not himself (Spock Prime has told him so) so he is able to goad him into a violent reaction. It seems in both realities, Kirk knows instinctively how to push Spock’s buttons. If it comes to that, McCoy and Spock are also snarky with each other in both realities – and snarkiness is an emotional display…

We also see Spock grinning with delight at an alien plant in The Cage (and I think the scene is also in The Menagerie, but I might be mistaken), and of course he is absolutely ecstatic to discover Kirk is still alive in Amok Time.

Yes, Spock is more at peace with his Human side after V’Ger etc. My own interpretation is that, ironically, that possibly made him more visibly calm than in the TOS series, because he had less internal conflict. …and I still nearly died of shock when he slapped Valeris.

At any rate I am looking forward to the new movie with ill-concealed enthusiasm.

123. Commodore Adams - February 7, 2013

I am upset at JJ because he will probably not direct the 3rd new Star Trek. It would have been fantastic for him to complete this trilogy and I am a Trek fan of 25 years saying this. And finally I am…meh… a little angry at JJ because he said he would never want to direct something as “epic” Star Wars, he would rather be a fan, a viewer watching the new movie. But I can’t be angry at him because this is a phenomenal once in a lifetime opportunity! Plus a Star Trek and Star Wars director has never been one in the same, which could be incredible or detrimental. I guess I am angry at Kathleen Kennedy for her witchcraft lol.

124. Commodore Adams - February 7, 2013

@118. captain_neill

“Star Trek was always about characters and great story telling, I hate to see the latter lost but I understand why Abrams ditched it but it I wish he hadn’t. I have confidence that Into Darkness will be a stronger film and I look forward to it. But I do think prime universe had better writing.”

Agreed. I am looking forward to Star Trek returning to TV, its where Star Trek was at its best. The week to week episodes of incredible storytelling.

125. BatlethInTheGroin - February 7, 2013

#117: While that’s pretty damn funny, it wouldn’t be Porthos. It would have to be another “prized beagle,” given that dogs don’t live for a century. :)

126. Trekkiegal63 - February 7, 2013

#122 ObsessiveStarTrekFan:

lol, by all accounts (Roddenberry, producers, writers, et al) “The Cage” was an experiment that failed, and TOS as we know it was born as a result. That is why Spock is more emotional in it, they hadn’t developed his character just yet. And also why we got James T. Kirk, because Pike didn’t test well (and thank the gods for that – I can’t picture Star Trek without Kirk).

I agree that Kirk knows how to push Spock’s buttons. Kirk is more of an astute study of psychology than he ever let on. He read people very well – it’s actually a trait I’ve often admired about him. He’s a chameleon.

As for Spock’s rare moments of extreme emotion in TOS, i.e. the smile in “Amok Time”, Nimoy actually explains that very well, here:


Actually, it’s a great history into the development of Spock’s character. I think you would find it… fascinating. ;)

And we’re agreed, I can’t wait to see “Into Darkness” myself.

127. ObsessiveStarTrekFan - February 7, 2013

@126. Trekkiegal63

Yeah – I remember reading that the networks didn’t want an unemotional, female 2IC, but invited Roddenberry to make a 2nd pilot. However… Canon is canon and we all twist and squirm with those bits we don’t really like or find inconsistent :-) And who’s better at arguing trivia than trekkies/trekkers?

Thanks for pointing me to the video. I enjoyed it. Yes, I did find Nimoy’s reference to the inspiration provided by Harry Belafonte’s performance ‘fascinating’. Nimoy’s portrayal of Spock is such that the demonstrations of emotion are writ large because they come from such a minimal place. That’s what he intended, and that’s what we saw. On another character, we wouldn’t even notice or remark on them because they would be too subtle to easily identify from the background emotional ‘noise’.

That brings me to another point to ponder: that this sort of subtlety is better suited to a TV series than a movie because it takes us time and exposure to the character to be able to read these subtle ‘tells’. That subtlety can be lost in the time constraints and other competing factors of a movie if you are not already familiar with the characters.

128. Kenji - February 7, 2013


Terrific. That sounds appropriate, I have confidence in the current Trek production group that they can come up with a nuanced villain.

Nero, for example (though he plays better if you read Countdown). An honest labourer…gone crazy with grief for his lost wife, child, and ENTIRE PLANET. Irrational, appalling, and pointless though his revenge was, it came out of lost love, and for that, there is a core of humanity in him.

I think that Harrison, from the comments so far from Cumberbatch, is a person who has a completely legitimate motivation as far as he is concerned.

129. Kenji - February 7, 2013


I like that by TUC, Spock is pretty much over being more Vulcan than the Vulcans. Sarek showed a little warmth to Amanda, Stonn and T’Pring were not robots. Younger Spock, plausibly, went in for total control because he is not down with the half human thing.

By TUC, he had lived and died and lived again, and really was not a half anything but a complete Spock. That is the fellow who can embrace illogically concepts like faith and who is not afraid to show a little anger or humour if he damn well feels like it.

130. Aurore - February 8, 2013

Nice picture of Miss Saldaña.
I love what she is wearing.

Too bad I can only see the upper part of the outfit…. where’s the rest of it?
Nevermind, this is very promising…


131. gary s - February 8, 2013

@125 I thought maybe porthos was also altered in some way to extend his life. LOL

132. Disinvited - February 8, 2013

#131. gary s

They augmented Porthos? That poor dog gets used by every cadet as a lab test subject.

133. Trekkiegal63 - February 8, 2013

#127 ObsessiveStarTrekFan:

Not sure I’d consider “The Cage” canon in the traditional sense. Yes, canon in technicality since “The Menagerie” used plot points from it, but not so much concrete as it was a… building block, I guess is the term I’m going for. It did not air publically until the late 80’s, long after TOS can come and gone and the cast had made the transition to the movies. By that time we fans who had watched TOS in its original incarnation had grown-up with Spock in his developed state: a refined, dignified, gentle being who actively and adherently stuck to a creed of logic, who internally warred between the two halves of his genetics.

“The Cage” is what it is, which is, ultimately, a failed test pilot.

To be entirely honest, the first time I watched “The Cage” I found it jarring (and became infinitely glad that NBC had insisted on a rehaul). I couldn’t get over the discrepancies in characterization, and I couldn’t fully warm up to Pike (I thought him a little bit… whiney, though I admit my views were probably tainted because by that time I was steadfastly loyal to Kirk) In fact, pretty much the only aspect I thought refreshing was the female XO.

As I side note, I enjoyed ST2009’s take on Pike much better.

But, like it, hate it, it comes down to this… Roddenberry, the producers, writers, directors, and Nimoy, all thought that a logic adhering Spock evolving towards acceptance of his human half was the best way to go. And that is, inarguably, canon. ;)

I’m glad you liked the video. It’s one of my favorite interviews. I adored the insight into how Spock came to be, and Nimoy’s influences (Belafonte fan myself).

I agree that Nimoy’s take on the subtly in motion/emotion is better suited for a lengthy television series, but then that pretty much applies to everything. Anything, given time to flesh, can make more of an impact.
I also thought that Nimoy did a great job in carrying his approach of subtlety and economizing emotion into the big screen.

134. Optimistic Doodle - February 8, 2013

Sometimes it looks as if some pictures have been manipulated in a sloppy way or so… (But I guess it must be my sore eyes.)

135. reality check - February 8, 2013

oh please, of course Abrams is leaving Trek, he (or rather his name) will still be attached to producing, but Trek 3 will have a new director. It was obvious right from the minute the Star Wars announcement was made.
And Disney plans to do more SW films, not just a trilogy. And I bet they won’t let him have 4 year long gaps in between.
the poll whether or not he should stay is ridiculous and why would you want someone whose heart and mind is on a different franchise altogether to be forced to head Trek anyway?
Maybe someone whose priority is actually Trek will step in for a change.

136. JoJo - February 8, 2013

Zach wears his costumes well, and Zoe looks gorgeous! Chris and Ben are not so bad either. Can’t wait to see this!

137. Jack - February 9, 2013

Man, that Pine has a nice caboose. Just saying.

138. The Great Bird Lives - February 9, 2013

Star Trek was the only fiction I enjoyed on television. Now that it’s off the air I simply turn to the mainstream, liberal media to get my fiction.
Thank the ‘Great Bird’ for ‘Netflix’.

139. Rose (as in Keachick) - February 9, 2013

#137 – I was not sure what caboose meant. I take it that you mean this –

“the part of the body upon which someone sits
Synonyms backside, behind, booty (also bootie) [slang], bottom, breech, bum, buns, butt, caboose, can, cheeks, derriere (or derrière), duff, fanny, fundament, hams, haunches, heinie [slang], hunkers, keister (also keester) [slang], nates, posterior, rear, rear end, rump, seat, tail, tail end, tush [slang]
Related Words beam, stern; moon [slang]”

However, in my search, I found other meanings. A real caboose is this –

Learn something every day!

Chris Pine has commented on his tiny rear end…don’t ask me where/when I read it, but I did…:)

140. Mike Johnson - February 9, 2013

Wouldn’t it be great if Sean Bean was in this as a red shirt – common we know he’d die anyway.

141. Lt. Daniels - February 10, 2013

I’m thinking that Harrison is an andriod like Data or Lore. The last time we saw Dr. Arik Soong on “Star Trek Enterprise” onTV his last words were about making andriods. Before that his thing was making humans like Khan. So maybe it’s Lore and Khan “Into The Darkness”.

142. Killamarshtrek - February 11, 2013

140. Mike Johnson – February 9, 2013
Wouldn’t it be great if Sean Bean was in this as a red shirt – common we know he’d die anyway.

Absolutely it would – He’s a ‘Blade’!

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