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Simon Pegg On Scotty’s Differences And John Harrison Speculation In ‘Star Trek Into Darkness’ March 26, 2013

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There is a new Star Trek Collector’s Edition magazine just showing up at retailers in the US. It includes interviews with cast and crew of classic Trek shows and the new Star Trek Into Darkness, including Simon Pegg. See below for some of Pegg’s comments about how Scotty is different in this movie and how he had to dial back his Scottishness.  

 

Simon Pegg on Scotty and Harrison in ‘Into Darkness’

Star publishing has a brand new Star Trek Collector’s Edition magazine which is just showing up at local retailers. One of the people interviewed is Star Trek Into Darkness star Simon Pegg. Here are some excerpts…

Pegg on how Scotty is different in Into Darkness

"He’s still very proud, and he thinks he owns the ship. He’s very principled, and those principles define his role in the film. "

Pegg also said that he had to re-calibrate his Scottishness:

"Because I’ve got Scottish family, J.J. lets me put Scotishisms into the script. But one day he came up to me on the set and said, ‘Simon, we have to understand what you are saying!" So I pulled it back a little bit. "

Simon Pegg on fan speculation about Benedict Cumberbatch’s John Harrison…

“It’s been fun seeing people try to figure out who he is playing and all the time it just being a very simple answer. John Harrison is indicative of a thing going on in society today, which is the enemy within. Not…a multi-horned alien or another country or whatever. It’s the idea that the threat can be one of us and can come from inside.”

and actors Benedict Cumberbatch and Simon Pegg

In addition to Pegg, Star’s new Star Trek Collector’s Edition magazine features comments from Star Trek Into Darkness production designer Scott Chambliss and visual effects supervisor Roger Guyett. The mag also features exclusive interview comments from William Shatner, Nichelle Nichols, LeVar Burton, Scott Bakula, Jonathan Frakes, Brent Spiner, Brannon Braga, and more. There is even a "Battle of the Trekkies, one of which is TrekMovie’s Anthony Pascale.


Spread from new Collector’s Edition

Star’s new Star Trek Collector’s Edition Magazine officially release date is Tuesday March 26th and will be available at any major outlet (Walmart, CVS, Kroger, RiteAid, etc.).  You can buy a digital copy at Apple iTunes.


 

Comments

1. rogerachong - March 26, 2013

They need to change Pine’s pic on that cover.

2. Aurore - March 26, 2013

“John Harrison is indicative of a thing going on in society today, which is the enemy within. Not…a multi-horned alien or another country or whatever.”
______

….You mean…. his character is not Hispanic…or Indian?

How disappointing!!!

:)

“….It’s the idea that the threat can be one of us and can come from inside.”

As I said, some time ago, this is going to be good…..

3. ObsessiveStarTrekFan - March 26, 2013

Ditto that comment for Zachary Quinto. They have to be two of the worst publicity stills ever. I assume that’s an example of photoshopping gone mad. Urban and Saldana look OK.

4. chrisfawkes.com - March 26, 2013

I know a lot of non trekkies who absolutely loved the last Star Trek film.

I think this installment is going to win over a lot more new fans than the first.

5. Vulcan Soul - March 26, 2013

That cover with two respected captains and that… kid says it all. Lifted (and photo-shopped) “90210″ actors plus explosions, that is the sad state of affairs in Trek.

6. chrisfawkes.com - March 26, 2013

Agreed, next to Spock prime Quinto looks like anyone going to a dressup party in that pic, not like the real deal.

7. Mr Lirpa - March 26, 2013

@5, that “Kid” is 32, just a couple of years younger that Shatner was when he first played Kirk. That said he does look about 16 in that picture!

8. endeavour crew - March 26, 2013

Is that Chris Pine or a young Kirstie Alley with short hair?………..lol

9. ObsessiveStarTrekFan - March 26, 2013

..now that you mention it – it’s the way the eyebrows arch…

10. ALPTrekker - March 26, 2013

The cover looks like it should be for “Teen Beat”! Who are they selling this to? Honestly, bad design all around. The only one who looks decent is Patrick Stewart. Old pic of the Shat looks…pasty…

11. Marja - March 26, 2013

#8 Endeavour & Obsessive, ROFL it’s the same eyebrow Kirstie arched … “separated at birth”!!

Obsessive, agreed, worst ZQ Spock pose EVER [tho the one on the 2009 poster is, to me, a close second].

Dee and Karl right next to each other … it’s uncanny … in a really good way.

12. CAPT KRUNCH - March 26, 2013

Agered..Pine and Quinto look like a litle scarey! That was TREK 90210! the new JJ series that …….didn’t make the cut!

13. KevinA Melbourne Australia - March 26, 2013

What the…..!!!! I know this is not specifically about the trailer but…

I’ve just been to a showing of “Good day To Die Hard”.
“Star Trek Into Darkness” trailer was shown. NO “Star Trek” anywhere!!!! Yes a trailer with just “Into Darkness”is being advertised in Australia.
I’ll say again….What the…..!

14. Khaaan, the weasel - March 26, 2013

@8: Oh my – another case of “what has been seen can’t be unseen”…

What a crappy job they did on that photo… Do you remember that scene in “Insurrection”, when Adm Dougherty got facelifted to death (oh,, I guess you remember, as that’s one of the very few memorable scenes in that movie…)? – Well, the portraits of Pine and Quinto on that cover have definitely been “shopped to death”.

15. Spockchick - March 26, 2013

I wonder if Pine’s acne-scars (and personally I think they give him a bit of roughness in a GOOD way) mean he gets ‘over-shopped’ by graphics editors. I think this is what has happened.

12. Marja. Agreed, Kelley/Urban look good, but I also think Nichols/Saldana look good too. Poor Nichelle (and Grace Lee-Whitney) had to endure some awful ’60s ‘helmet hair’. There are a few episodes where Majel Barrett had her hair dyed a weird ash-grey with dark bits and a tail. Looked like she had a Davy Crockett hat on!

On Simon Pegg, I had to LoL, coz there is no unintelligible sci-talk that nobody understands in Trek, is there?

16. Calastir - March 26, 2013

#4:

If they have to alter what Trek used to be all about and alienate fans in order to please the mainstream for a few dollars more, I’m out.

17. ObsessiveStarTrekFan - March 26, 2013

I’d just like to remind everyone – as if we could forget – that today is Leonard Nimoy’s birthday.

Happy Birthday Mr Nimoy!

18. spockchick - March 26, 2013

@16. Yay! Thanks for reminding us! Happy birthday Mr. Nimoy. To a thoughtful, creative, interesting man.

19. William Bradley - March 26, 2013

But but but… he’s not KHAN?? The most British actor in all of Britain is not playing a younger version of Ricardo Montalban??

How can this be?!

rotfl

> “It’s been fun seeing people try to figure out who he is playing and all the time it just being a very simple answer. John Harrison is indicative of a thing going on in society today, which is the enemy within. Not…a multi-horned alien or another country or whatever. It’s the idea that the threat can be one of us and can come from inside.”

20. mynameschris - March 26, 2013

One big reason why the photos of the new Bones and Uhura look much better than Kirk and Spock is simply because they are taken from the movie itself where as the other 2 were publicity photos that what ever advertising agency they used mucked up on a whole heap of the photos.

The few from the upcoming movie look a whole lot better.

21. BatlethInTheGroin - March 26, 2013

#5: Rubbish. Pine is almost exactly the age Shatner was when he took on the role.

22. BatlethInTheGroin - March 26, 2013

#15: Bye.

23. BatlethInTheGroin - March 26, 2013

#15: They haven’t alienated fans. By and large, fandom hugely embraced the 2009 film. Those complaining represent a small but vocal minority–who, amazingly, seem not to even understand what Star Trek is all about, given their narrow-mindedness.

24. Mad Mann - March 26, 2013

Heh: Star. One of the most respected sources in journalism.

25. Dirty Harry - March 26, 2013

Like most of us, I’ve been backwards and forwards about whether John Harrison is Khan, or Gary Mitchell, or somebody else.

I’ve come to the conclusion that he is NOT Khan, but he IS Khan as well… Let me explain.

I don’t believe that half way through this movie, Benedict Cumberbatch is going to say, “Actually, my name’s not John, it’s Khan”. I think it would just sound ridiculous.

But let’s not look at WHO Khan is but WHAT Khan is. Khan represents someone who:

is stronger and more powerful than others;
is clever and passionate;
has a grudge to bear;
is willing to kill to get what he wants / make his point.

Everything suggests that we do have a Khan movie – just revamped for the 21st century.

Just my conclusion.

26. Doug Haffner - March 26, 2013

I’m just concerned that all the hype over who he is or is not will leave fans all “meh” when it’s revealed. Sometimes too much attention on a small secret detail can undermine the rest of the film. As long as the film is good (and I think it looks good so far) I don’t care if he’s Kevin Riley or Dr. Noonian Soong or Admiral Culpepper of the anti-federation terrorist cell known as the Earthers.

27. Crewman Darnell - March 26, 2013

Wow… That particular magazine cover is absolutely grotesque.

28. msn1701 - March 26, 2013

# 14 I think his scars are cool. The airbrushing is just not necessary but whatever. That’s hollywood.

Happy Birthday, Leonard!! Wow 82 that is awesome :D I hope you keep living long and prospering hahaha. Poor guy is probably sick of that line. He was so nice when I got my pic with him and Shatner at a con.

29. somethoughts - March 26, 2013

Why does Pine look like he is 16, looks like Beiber or something. The photoshop guy should be fired for trying to make Pine and Quinto bad.

30. Dee - lvs moon surface - March 26, 2013

I agree those photos of Kirk/Pine and Quinto/Spock from 2009… it’s really annoying at this point… btw it was annoying at that time, too… time for stid images, now!

31. Charla - March 26, 2013

Gotta get this issue too, but would rather have the Empire magazine- it seems like it has more substance to it. And I agree the photoshop person needs to be fired for the pictures of Quinto and Pine.

32. Calastir - March 26, 2013

#22
The logic of a beaten housewife. Can’t argue with that.
You stay, I’m out of this relationship.

33. Robman007 - March 26, 2013

It’s quite sad that some fans act all childish and keep up the whine and cheese show about how “this is not my trek” gibberish. It’s obnoxious. Get…over..it..and…get..a…life!

Somebody call the waaaaambulance on #5 and #15.

34. TrekMadeMeWonder - March 26, 2013

This aint my Trek.

But I hold out hope.

35. Sunfell - March 26, 2013

Picked up the Star special yesterday. Lots of interesting speculation in the articles.

36. Never Say Canon Again - March 26, 2013

Gotta be Khan. Who else had withstood all the bizarre counter theories a fanboy can come up with. It’s been simple all along.

37. Robman007 - March 26, 2013

#22….the waaaaambulance is on it’s way.

Seriously…the TNG era of Trek really went a very long way into turning the fan base into a bunch of whiney closed minded crybabies. “It’s not my trek…it’s not my trek, waaaaa, it’s not my trek.” Grow up. These last two films are better then anything done by the Voyager, Enterprise and the last 2 TNG films, which if I need to remind anybody, SUCKED. Crap, Insurrection (which is a giant slice of urine soaked crap sandwich) dealt with exploring a “new world”..yeah, how’d that work out?

As a huge, huge, HUGE TOS fan, I seem to remember a bunch of the episodes..actually a large portion, being action based with villains, fist fights and women wearning next to nothing. Shoot, even when they explored “new worlds” they had to resort to some sorta violence to “save the ship”…nobody seemed to care back then. Now you gotta hear all levels of drama queen antics anytime someone thinks of the new films.

You want an example of something that “ruined a franchise”…look no farther then the prequel Star Wars films. Those “ruined” star wars. These new films have done Star Trek the opposite of the example above.

Just..WOW sometimes. Wow.

38. Jack - March 26, 2013

Why is Severus Snape standing next to Nimoy? Tee hee.

Of all the photos of these guys, they chose those two. And to my dad, above, Quinto’s the same age as Nimoy was in Trek’s first season.

22. Exactly. And the ownership — “this is not my Trek” is telling.

39. Danpaine - March 26, 2013

I actually re-watched Insurrection a couple of weeks ago, and really enjoyed it.

I’m also a “huge TOS” fan,” by the way.

But thanks for your (and only your) opinion.

40. DeBeckster - March 26, 2013

I’m beginning to think that it was going to be Khan, but when they couldn’t find the right guy for the job, they changed the role a little. It would be hard for someone named Khan to look like a pasty white British dude.

41. somethoughts - March 26, 2013

#38

Insurrection was bad, that and Nemesis almost killed Star Trek. Throw in Enterprise theme song and stupid stories, and nail was in coffin.

My tickets are printed and waiting patiently for May 15th, whoever the villain is I don’t care at this point. I just want to be entertained and see crew on ship kicking ass.

42. Calastir - March 26, 2013

#37
Let me rephrase it then so that hopefully you’ll understand;

This is not the direction I want Star Trek to follow, or I’ll lose interest.

As a longtime fan, I think I owe the makers at least some feedback why.

#36
You don’t even know what our complaints are, but it’s fascinating to watch you project your frustrations onto anyone who does. Please continue telling me what I think. :-)

43. NuFan - March 26, 2013

Marcus is the enemy within. But since Marcus is Khan’s mentor we will have a lot of villains in this movie.

44. NuFan - March 26, 2013

41

Yes we know you’re not actually going anywhere. You’ve been saying that for 3 years.

45. Robman007 - March 26, 2013

I actually really don’t care what the individual complaints are….I’ve been on this site since the start and I’ve read them all, most all boil down the tried and true “it’s not my trek” garbage (with a mixture of the normal Kirk was promoted too fast, they are always action films, they are not same as the old films, they are too “revenge based” with the plot, the stories are too main stream, scientific inaccuracies that would never really happen in the real world while forgetting that star trek is fictional, etc etc etc etc)

This is the truth….Get used to the direction of the films. The old Trek is never coming back. The only way it will make it back to TV is if these films are successful, and even if it does get back to TV, it will never be the same. It will be fast paced, with alot of action mixed in with some exploration, but it will be “dialed down” so that the average every day viewer will tune in, much like the movies. The movies MUST appeal to EVERYONE. Last time a Trek movie was made for Trek fans we got the misrable mess that was Nemesis and Insurrection. I understand some fans like Insurrection, but lets not mince words. It sucked hardcore. It was bad. It, along with Nemesis, Voyager and Enterprise KILLED Star Trek..until 11 came along, that is.

Yes, I had some minor issues with the last film, but nothing that would lead to such drama queen antics like “it’s not my trek” and “Abrams is having his way with my childhood” type crap that I’ve seen before. Sure, the characters are not “EXACTLY” like they were in TOS, and I”m fine with that. I don’t wanna see these guys play carbon copies of the original characters. Not even James Bond was done that way everytime a new actor took over. Sure Kirk was promoted too fast, but I really did not wanna see 3 films of “junior grade Kirk” getting plothammered into an adventure with the bridge crew just to get the logical conclusion at the end of film 3. Sure the red matter was a strange plot and the alternate universe was odd, but who cares. I can live with it because it’s fictional and because I understand how the buiz of Hollyweird works….and I’m just glad that there are some new adventures of Kirk and Spock and the crew out there to watch that, in 2 movies, are far superior to 3/4′s of the films TNG made.

I guess what I’m trying to say is…like the new trek or not. Everyone has a choice and go with what you want. Just leave the drama queen antics at home. It gets old hearing the same tired song about how “this is not my trek” because old Trek IS dead. Thank the above listed films and TV show’s for that one…”come come, Mr Scott. Young minds, fresh ideas, be tolerant.”

46. Dee - lvs moon surface - March 26, 2013

Spock and Kirk look better here:

http://www.fmoviemag.com/c/news/item/1098-star-trek-into-darkness-issue-39

47. kirkster - March 26, 2013

I think in the new movie the character of John Harrison was originally written as Khan, but when they couldn’t land the hispanic or other ethnic looking actor(s) they wanted for the part, it was rewritten in such a way that anyone could play the role. Therefore, the story has many leftover Khan like elements and similarities, but is no longer Khan specific.

It may even still be connected to Khan in a very loose tiny thread of the story way.

48. Spockkchick - March 26, 2013

@33.Roboman007
Please tell me what I said to deserve a a ‘Waambulance’. I’m @15.

49. somethoughts - March 26, 2013

#47

I agree I think that is what happened here, written as Khan but rewritten to fit Cumberbatch.

50. somethoughts - March 26, 2013

#48

I think the numbering is off by 1

51. spockchick - March 26, 2013

@50. Somethoughts.

oh, thanks for the info, and I can’t spell my name in my last post :-)

52. Keachick - March 26, 2013

It is now 27 March, 7.40am NZ time and I still do not see any mention of Mr Spock – you know, the pointy eared hobgoblin…:) – aka Leonard Nimoy’s birthday, born 26 March 1931, four days after William Shatner.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear…

Anyway, Happy Birthday Leonard Nimoy. I hope you have a wonderful and great new year. LLAP!!!

53. dayxday - March 26, 2013

Well said Robman007!

54. Keachick - March 26, 2013

Dee – I agree that the picture of Kirk, Spock and Harrison is much better. What’s more, it is current, unlike the other pictures.

55. Lt. Bailey - March 26, 2013

The trick is to find a “newstand”… all our book stores went bankrupt or moved in our area. The curse of Kindl.

56. John from Cincinnati - March 26, 2013

Scooped trekmovie.com!

Happy 82nd Birthday Mr. Nimoy!! The truest and most genuine gentleman (along with Patrick Stewart) of the Star Trek franchise!

Here’s to many many more!

57. Keachick - March 26, 2013

I meant to write: “I hope you have a wonderful DAY…” ugh.

58. I am not Herbert - March 26, 2013

Wow… pretty crappy… let the ridicule commence! =D

59. Robman007 - March 26, 2013

@ 48. Spockkchick …yeah, the numbering is off again. Your comment was not 15 when I made my rant.

60. THX-1138 - March 26, 2013

Point of reference:

When TNG first aired, the “die-hard-true-blue-saw-it-from-the-beginning” TOS fans were up in arms. “It’s not Star Trek”, they said.

61. Trekbilly - March 26, 2013

#45 — Rob, could not agree more!!

62. Spockchick - March 26, 2013

@59. Roboman.
No worries, I should have paid more attention! *shakes your hand*

63. Robman007 - March 26, 2013

@ 60. THX-1138

True, true. I remember that. Different situations then. Star Trek, as a franchice, was healthy. It had reached the top of the mountain in terms of wide spread attention with the success of the very main stream Star Trek IV. TNG was hard to watch, but it got better, but TNG was not a “reboot”…also, fans and the network were far more tolerant of the show because it was all new and TNG went on to be one of the most watched shows in syndication history.

Different story now. We have a Trek that was run to the ground by it’s own weight. A show that forgot how fun it used to be and focused too much on cannon, political correctness and technobabble…in short, Star Trek was no longer fun and died. Really badly died.

So, with the new films, they HAVE to market these films to a broader audience. We, as Trek fans, showed them that you can no longer market a film or even TV show for just us fans.

64. Robman007 - March 26, 2013

62. Spockchick ..that seems to happen on these comments. Sometimes a comment shifts. No big deal.

65. Trekbilly - March 26, 2013

Well, I don’t think even the “fans” wanted Insurection – Enterprise! Lol!!!

66. Trekbilly - March 26, 2013

CumberKhan!!! Lol!!

67. Dee - lvs moon surface - March 26, 2013

#54. Keachick

There are awesome photos of CP out there … you know where … hope you have seen… ;-) :-)

68. Carl LaFong - March 26, 2013

I assume Harrison is the “Johnny” that young Kirk drove by on the road in the first movie, no?

69. Keachick - March 26, 2013

The ones where CP makes a suit and tie actually look good. Darn those fine Pine looks!…:)

70. CarlG - March 26, 2013

@32: Did you really just compare a movie you don’t like to an abusive partner? Overwrought, yet contemptible — my compliments on your ability to multitask.

Whoever photoshopped Chris Pine’s face on that cover should get the airlock. Yuck.

71. Pan Always Bored Me - March 26, 2013

My theory is John Harrison is Gary Mitchell. This is gonna sound ridiculous but the way he is leaning into that force field is the way Gary Lockwood did it on Delta Vega in WNMHGB. I think that’s the producers way of telling us. Hiding in plain sight, if you will. I’m going to take my meds now.

72. martin - March 26, 2013

THE REAL ‘JHON HARRISON’ EXPOSED THEORY
Iv just watched star trek enterprise episodes ‘affliction’ and ‘divergence’
klingons used augment technology to create klingon augments but the ridges begun to dispear.
what if one klingon was working for section 31 and could easyly fit in with starfleet by just apearing even more human with an alias AKA ‘jhon harrison’

73. The Sinfonian - March 26, 2013

Martin, the neutralized virus from Jonathan Archer’s cold caused all Klingon ridges to disintegrate. But it cured them from going completely and totally mad.

But you’re on to the theory some have that John Harrison is essentially Arne Darvin, a Klingon-human hybrid agent either working for the Klingons, or more likely working for Starfleet.

Gatt is Khan, anyway. They’ve hidden him in plain sight. He’s the figure in the distance exiting the “tube room”. They’ve decanted Khan at the end of I.D. I think JJ has this all planned with Boborci & Alex & Damon. They’ve already written the third movie. They’re going to leave us with the equivalent of the Botany Bay cliffhanger even as this movie with John Harrison is played out. This is the only way that JJ could go off and shoot Star Wars 7, and come back and also shoot Star Trek 3– if the stories for both are already sketched out.

74. Lurker - March 26, 2013

So does “Harrison” live at the end of this film?

75. Luciano - March 26, 2013

Is it just me or when Benedict said the line “a crime that I can not forgiiive” seems oddly similiar to a Khan speech? I think Khan said the same word (forgive), with the same manner in Wrath of Khan.

76. Red Dead Ryan - March 26, 2013

That cover sucks! Looks like the same crappy style done by the same crappy “artist” who does the teen magazine covers.

Yeesh!

77. ObsessiveStarTrekFan - March 26, 2013

@46. Dee – lvs moon surface

Yes, they do look better, except… For the love of pete – is that ‘blood’ on Spock’s cheeks meant to be his? If it is, someone stuffed up royally, because Spock is Vulcan and therefore bleeds GREEN not RED :-(

I’ve had a trawl on the internet trying to find a ‘better’ picture, and it looks suspiciously like it really is meant to be his, and that colour. If it’s like that in the movie, I’m going to be a tad annoyed…

Like the upside down British flag (now fixed), it’s the little things that can be quite jarring.

78. Jack - March 26, 2013

Trek had turned into Microsoft and each show was like a new Windows release, much fanfare, but the bill of all that came before meant that not much changed and it felt like a recycled version of the previous one.

79. Jack - March 26, 2013

And yeah, red blood on Spock’s face is odd…

80. BatlethInTheGroin - March 26, 2013

Oh, I quite agree. Gatt is Khan in a minor role, and North is April.

81. Douglas - March 26, 2013

I agree with the observations in these posts regarding Pine and Quinto on this magazine cover. I hardly recognize Karl Urban’s Dr. McCoy. Has Urban’s looks changed a lot since the last Trek film? Is his hair different? Something seems off but I can’t figure it out.

82. Dennis C - March 26, 2013

I’m looking forward to seeing what a Star Trek film with this cast and a diffferent director and writing team might look like. Subtlety is something JJ and his crew are not entirely familiar with.

Christopher Nolan has shown that you can strike a balance between action, strong writing and a solid story.

Every Star Trek movie has had memorable, quotable moments. Orci and Kurtzman continue to churn out forgettable dialogue in almoat every major project they’ve touched.

Here’s hoping STID breaks the trend.

83. Trekkiegal63 - March 26, 2013

I was waiting to post this on the Nimoy thread but since that hasn’t materialized and it’s getting pretty late here in California… Happy Birthday, Leonard! Best of wishes to a wonderful, creative person, may you grace us with your presence and sterling example for many more years to come. :)

84. Capt. of the U.S.S. Anduril - March 26, 2013

Not only do Pine and Quinto look terrible, it looks like they photoshopped Shatner as well. He looks as old as he does now…

85. Dee - lvs moon surface - March 26, 2013

77. ObsessiveStarTrekFan…

I don’t think it’s blood … after all Vulcans also get dirty when they face a tough fight… I guess… ;-) :-)

86. Dee - lvs moon surface - March 27, 2013

“Into Darkness” is out there… on the cover

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151587363996042&set=a.401522561041.194424.355723911041&type=1&theater

87. RetroWarbird - March 27, 2013

Speaking of Harrison speculation, I’ve recently (finally) watched the entirety of Enterprise, binge-style. Enterprise is canonical with the New Trek films.

And it occurred to me that the Klingon Empire is in possession of Augmented human embryos. If Harrison is an augmented human (quite likely), could he have been grown by the Klingons to be a devastating secret weapon/sleeper agent to use against the Federation?

88. Martin - March 27, 2013

I think star trek enterprise season 4 says a lot about my theorys for
star trek into darkness.

89. Paul - March 27, 2013

“John Harrison is indicative of a thing going on in society today, which is the enemy within. Not…a multi-horned alien or another country or whatever. It’s the idea that the threat can be one of us and can come from inside.”

Except those people who become “the enemy within” usually DO come from another countries, another cultures. First we let the enemy in, and then, when a building falls or a plane explodes or a train crashes, we run around screaming “Help, help, the enemy is within!” :-P

90. Ahmed - March 27, 2013

I will buy the magazine but agree with the rest that the cover is really bad. They should have picked up different photos of Pine & Quinto.

91. somethoughts - March 27, 2013

#89

Well if you train them as operatives and then they turn on you because the commanders withdrew and abandoned them, then yes they are from within ;)

92. T'Cal - March 27, 2013

No way he’s Khan. An Augment for sure, but not Khan. And maybe he’s with S31, I hope…

93. Ahmed - March 27, 2013

It might be about time that we see Section 31 on the big screen, if John Harrison is indeed a Section 31 agent.

94. Kirk - March 27, 2013

@ 89. Paul

Wow. Really? Timonthy McVeigh, the Unabomber, Christopher Dorner, the 2010 plane attack on IRS, (likely) the anthrax attacks, James Holmes, and the far-too-numerous school shootings were all domestic terrorism. You miss the point completely.

The article is clearly talking about the trend of internal threats as depicted by the villain John Harrison. Not international (or “alien) threats.

Please see this youtube video, it clarifies matters greatly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

95. Craiger - March 27, 2013

I wonder if Harrison doesn’t like Starfleet’s Prime Directive policy because he lost loved ones because of it and that is why he is seeking revenge on Starfleet?

96. 16309 - March 27, 2013

I like that they had to put the arrows in so we don’t get confused on which character is playing which!

97. Martin - March 27, 2013

Iv looked on my cinema site my vue ‘star trek into darkness’ is short of
3 hours long, so there must be a big action packed khan revelation near the end.

98. somethoughts - March 27, 2013

#97

Really? That is awesome news, I am hoping for at least 2hrs30-45mins!

99. Jack - March 27, 2013

97. Good. I’m still surprised that Trek 09 was nearly 2.5 hours long, because it didn’t seem like that much happened.

100. AndrosZ - March 27, 2013

http://io9.com/io9s-march-tv-madness-doctor-who-vs-star-trek-tng-458789938

TNG is losing?!

101. somethoughts - March 27, 2013

#99

Star Trek 2009 was 2hrs and 9mins no?

102. Ahmed - March 27, 2013

@101. somethoughts

Star Trek 2009 was 2hrs & 7mins according to IMDB

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/

And from what IMDB saying, it does look like Star Trek Into Darkness is just 2hrs and 9mins.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1408101/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

So, we are getting 2 extra minutes this time around !!!

103. Martin - March 27, 2013

myvue.com showing 160 mins in uk
http://www.myvue.com/latest-movies/info/cinema/doncaster/film/star-trek-into-darkness-3d

104. Ahmed - March 27, 2013

@Martin, yeah, the site does say it is 160 mins. Guess one of them is not correct, unless JJ will show you guys in UK more stuff than us here in North America ;)

But I do hope the movie will be at least 2 hr & half.

105. Keachick - March 27, 2013

160 minutes means that the movie is about two hours and 10 minutes long. I think the last 10 minutes is taken up with credits. If so, that sounds like a good length. That extra few minutes will hopefully allow for more explanation of plot and character moments.

106. Ahmed - March 27, 2013

@ 105. Keachick – March 27, 2013

“160 minutes means that the movie is about two hours and 10 minutes long.”

Actually 160 minutes is 2 hours & 40 minutes long.

107. Crewman Darnell - March 27, 2013

@ 94. Kirk

Another one to add to your list is Norway’s domestic terrorist, Anders Breivik.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2298067/Anders-Breivik-Norwegian-mass-killer-pleads-let-prison-attend-mothers-funeral.html

108. TrekkerChick - March 28, 2013

The extra time is for the scene of Bill Shatner (as Kirk) and Leonard (as Spock)…

“That *was* a fascinating dream, Jim. Will you consider my suggestion- as your friend – to go spend time at your cabin?”

109. Starman - March 28, 2013

#95. Craiger – March 27, 2013
“I wonder if Harrison doesn’t like Starfleet’s Prime Directive policy because he lost loved ones because of it and that is why he is seeking revenge on Starfleet?”

Star Date 3142.8, Captain’s Log – Kirk gives a commendation to Tech 1st Class Harrison (TOS – Space Seed)…possible source of this “canon” character Bob Orci referred to…may he will be able to confirm after the release of the movie if this is true…

The Prequel comics, “Countdown to Darkness” contain clues to Harrison including a possible relationship and Section 31…will have to wait for the last issue in April to decide the possible motivation for Harrison to go rogue on Starfleet….

110. Ahmed - March 28, 2013

@starman,

“The Prequel comics, “Countdown to Darkness” contain clues to Harrison including a possible relationship and Section 31″

What clues ? I read the “Countdown to Darkness” comics & so far nothing interesting, beside Captain April, happened. The 2009 movie comics was far more interesting than this one.

111. Yanks - March 28, 2013

Man, who choses the stills for these covers?

112. MC1 Doug - March 28, 2013

The magazine is also available at Barnes & Noble (which the writer of this article neglected to mention).

113. John from Cincinnati - March 28, 2013

I’ve cracked it!

John Harrison is from the Mirror Universe!

See- Enterprise seas. 4 episode “In A Mirror, Darkly”

See – Star Trek Into Darkness

It would explain Harrison’s advance combat training and his disdain for the current policies of the Federation

114. JRT! - March 28, 2013

Also didn’t mention the price,anyone know how much it costs?

J-R!

115. Keachick - March 28, 2013

Actually, the first Star Trek was billed with the running time of 127 minutes, however, the movie actually finished at about 1.59/2.00 hours and the rest of the time was taken up by credits, according to my DVD player timer.

116. Starman - March 28, 2013

#110 Ahmed

IMO when April uses his hidden computer program, strange how “31″ is part of his code…is this a possible connection to Section 31, April and ?Harrison? As to a relationship, for Harrison to go on a revenge rampage, some thing happend that made it very personal that caused him to strike out at StarFleet (along with his comment about “do anything for family”), I have a feeling there’s a woman involved…Mudd? Obviously, the 4th installment is going to set the stage for the movie, and we can look back later to see what the real clues were…

117. Edshrinker - March 28, 2013

since we seem to have nothing in the way of news or new threads… I’ll just post these new INTRIGUING pics this way.

I am scared for Chekov, in a red shirt hard at work in Engineering (brewing beer no doubt). And the bridge of the ship Harrison steals (I believe). Notice the “specialists” in the background are dressed like the one Harrison pummels in the newest trailer.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=291487000982776&set=pcb.291487464316063&type=1&theater

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=291487190982757&set=pcb.291487464316063&type=1&theater

118. Corvette King - March 28, 2013

Khan will be in the third movie. End of the movie will show the Botany Bay as the cliffhanger.

This whole thing will be the set up to Khan.

119. JRT! - March 29, 2013

Has anyone bought this magazine yet? How much did it cost? And is it a good read?

120. JRT! - March 29, 2013

Ok,never mind about the price question,I can see it in the pic of the cover,lol!

J-R!

121. Curious Cadet - March 29, 2013

@118. Corvette King,
“This whole thing will be the set up to Khan.”

Hardly an original proposal, but why? Why would the producers paint themselves into this corner unless the script already exists? If that were the plan, then shoot the movies back to back so they don’t lose the cast, and release them a year apart, or anniunce the next film now and guarantee a 50th anniversary release.

No nothing about this matches Abrams M.O.

This movie will end, leaving the general audience with a sense of pleased satisfaction and openness to return should another movie with the Star Trek brand appear in the future. There won’t be any confusing ships floating in space with no explanation except for those fans in the know.

Perhaps there will clues within the film that could be used to tie the two movies together if they so choose, but noting that would lock them into a path. Clues like “remember”. Meant nothing when I first saw TWOK, in fact I had to go back and look at TWOK after I saw TSFS to make sure they hadn’t tried to pull a fast one. But had they made TVH first while negotiating Nimoy’s contract (which they could have done without Spock), I wouldn’t have missed a thing. In fact, Trek was on the bubble. Had TWOK not been the most profitable movie to date, that might have indeed been the last movie during Nimoy’s useful lifetime.

The next movie will be whatever story they decide to make in the intervening three years and this film will not likely set up anything, much less Khan.

122. JRT! - March 29, 2013

So….anyone read this mag yet? Any good?

J-R!

123. Classy M - March 30, 2013

Any UK fans might be interested in the following tweet from Paramount Pictures UK today:

Staying in tonight? Watch @antanddec’s @ITVTakeaway for an exclusive look at #StarTrek #IntoDarkness! 7pm, ITV 1. pic.twitter.com/WEfa8RV5na

124. JRT! - March 30, 2013

Yeah,trying to get all the people watching Who to watch Ant and Dec!? Not gonna happen! lol! Will watch the ST thing on youtube afterwards though,lol!

So….ANYone read this mag yet? Any good??

J-R!

125. Randall Williams - March 31, 2013

All the text I have been reading about STID brings me to the comparative
conclusion that STID will turn out to be “Skyfall meets Star Trek,” as the
concepts are disturbingly similar. I am not ashamed to be wrong if such
is not the case. Do your own research and compare logically, please.

126. Keachick - March 31, 2013

I’m not sure what happened here. I wonder – Did i click “say it!” before or not?

Anyway, I have been reading that some people claim that they know others who have seen the complete STID movie already. Is this true?

My understanding is that the first 30 minutes was screened in a Sydney cinema recently, not the whole movie.

127. JRT! - March 31, 2013

So we’re not talking about this magazine anymore,since no one’s actually read it!? lol!

Don’t care what the movie will be compared,even though Skyfall was a big yawn. Oh well,whatever.

J-R!

128. Keachick - March 31, 2013

The magazine is not on sale yet, so nobody can read it.

129. JRT! - March 31, 2013

It is on sale,says released March 26th in the article,as a friend of mine in the US picked it up for me a few days ago. I don’t get it till May though,when I go to the US again. Was just curious if it was a good read.

J-R!

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