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Watch: Takei & Hamill In ‘The Neighbors’ + Sirtis Cast In NCIS [UPDATE: Billingsley Returns To Nikita] March 26, 2013

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Wendesday’s season finale of ABC’s sci-fi sitcom The Neighbors brings together Star Trek and Star Wars with guest roles for George Takei and Mark Hamill. See below for a promo and some stills. And in other Star Trek guest star rules, Marina Sirtis is headed to NCIS.  [UPDATE: John Billingsley is returning to Nikita next week...watch the promo]

 

UPDATE: Billingsley returns to Nikita

Another Star Trek guest star is John Billingsley who is making a suprirse return to the CW drama Nikita after his character was killed off. Here is the blurb from the CW:

A VIOLENT MUTINY ROCKS DIVISION — STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE’s JOHN BILLINGSLEY RETURNS AS SCIENTIST “HEIDECKER” — Nikita (Maggie Q) and Michael (Shane West) learn of a new prosthetic hand that could have Michael back to his old self, but it comes at a steep price. Meanwhile, Alex (Lyndsy Fonseca) and Sean (Dillon Casey) are tasked with investigating who, inside Division, is behind a mutiny that ends in bloodshed. Aaron Stanford and Noah Bean also star.

Here is the official promo featuring Billingsley

Nikita "Tipping Point" airs at 8PM Friday April 5th.

 

original article

Takei and Hamill on tomorrow’s ‘The Neighbors’

George Takei and Mark Hamill appear for the first time together on the Wednesday night season finale of The Neighbors, the ABC sitcom about a family that moves into a neighborhood full of aliens. Here is the synopsis for the eisode "It Has Begun….":

The Weavers take the Bird-Kersees to Atlantic City, where Marty learns that Larry Bird not only counts cards, he can see through them, and Jackie admits that she’s always wanted a human wedding. Meanwhile, Dick Butkus, in charge back home, gets an ominous call from his grandpa. Is it time for the Neighbors to return to Zabvron? Find out on the Season Finale of "The Neighbors," WEDNESDAY, MARCH 27 (8:30-9:00 p.m., ET) on ABC. The episode features two of science fiction’s biggest icons as guest stars, George Takei as Grandfather and Mark Hamill as Commandant Bill.

Here is a promo:

Here is a still from the episode, and a behind the scenes shot.


George Takei and Mark Hamill on ‘The Neighbors’


George Takei and Mark Hamill behind the scenes on ‘The Neighbors’
 

Sirtis headed to NCIS

Speaking of Trek starts on network TV, TVLine is reporting that Star Trek: The Next Generation’s Marina Sirtis has been cast for a recurring role on the CBS military procedural show NCIS. Sirtis has been cast as the new director of the Mossad (Isreali Intelligence service). Sirits’ character is stepping in to replace the last head of the Mossad on the show (played by Michael Nouri) who was killed off. TVLine quotes showrunner Gary Glasberg saying  “I’ve always been a Star Trek fan, but Marina really owns this part. And the cast loves her. She’s everything I wanted for the role and then some. We are lucky to have her.” Sirtis’ first episode of NCIS will air in April. This will be Sirtis’ first time on network TV since she appeared in a March 2011 episode of Grey’s Anatomy.


Marina Sirtis headed to NCIS

Comments

1. Trekster88 - March 26, 2013

Can’t wait for the NCIS episode!!

2. Exverlobter - March 26, 2013

God, Mark Hamill got so fat! He definetly needs to go to the gym, if he want to appear in Episode 7.

3. Tim Gogirenko - March 26, 2013

Does anyone actually watch “The Neighbors”? It looks silly to me.

4. Harry Ballz - March 26, 2013

Hamill needs to lose about 40 pounds, get in first rate shape with a personal trainer and then get a state-of-the-art facelift before filming Episode 7!

(and even then they better CGI out all the unsightly wrinkles)

5. somejackball - March 26, 2013

there’s no way they’ll put him in SW7 looking like that!! lolz

i’m hoping they don’t at all, well accept for maybe a quick cameo. Ford i’m ok with. as far as Fisher goes.. please don’t do it, please don’t do it!

6. Son of Jello - March 26, 2013

So Carri Fisher and Mark Hammil are playing Gloop and Gleep in Star Wars episode 7. Carrie and Mark could save the day in Star Wars 7 by becoming emergency buoyancy devices for their children when they crash on Kamino.

7. Lt. Dakin - March 27, 2013

Awesome, Marina!

8. Newdivide1701 - March 27, 2013

Mark has NOT aged well AT ALL!!!

9. Platitude - March 27, 2013

@2 Totally. It needs to happen.

10. Gold Leader's Gym - March 27, 2013

“When 61 years you reach, look as good, you will not.”

Cut the guy some slack. He’s been a voice actor for a long time.
Just took too much inspiration from Orson Welles.

11. CAPT KRUNCH - March 27, 2013

@2 correct sir…i was thinking he and Carrie Fisher need to get on the exercise speederbike to get ready for this movie..at least we know Harrison Ford will be ready!

12. Joe Schmoe - March 27, 2013

Today is Leonard Nimoy’s 82nd birthday, and that wasn’t worth an article?

13. Snugglepuff - March 27, 2013

I love NCIS and with Sirtis it’ll be even better.

14. NuWisdom - March 27, 2013

@2 @4 @5 I know what you mean. If Hamill doesn’t get to the gym soon they might have to recase him as the son of Jabba the Hut LOL

Also, great to hear Marina Sirtis got cast in NCIS.

@6 in other words they could pull a Data from Star Trek Insurrection LOL.

15. Tanner Waterbury - March 27, 2013

Wow, is it me or do those uniforms that Takei and Hamil are wearing look a HELLUVA lot like a mix of the Babylon 5 uniforms? If any of you seen the show, you’d know what I mean

16. Son of Jello - March 27, 2013

15 Yes they do I could not quite place them. Its the odd angle of the cut and the silver colour (zircathread). I would love to see a B5 movie or a return to TV but most of the actors have died. Its like the Poltergeist/Superman curse

17. Gorn Captain - March 27, 2013

He doesn’t look fat to me. People have unrealistic ideas about what a healthy older person actually looks like who hasn’t had a facelift.

Unfortunately, we live in a world where bony thin supermodels who starve themselves are considered normal looking.

18. Gorn Captain - March 27, 2013

@15 They might be old B5 costumes modified and rented from somewhere? Stranger things have happened…

19. John Gill - March 27, 2013

George has aged better than Mark H., and in a longer period of time…

20. Tanner Waterbury - March 27, 2013

Is it also just me…or does George have a bit of a crazed look in his eyes in that behind the scenes pic?

21. Halowan - March 27, 2013

My bet is half of you haven’t aged well either. Cruel bastards.

22. Son of Jello - March 27, 2013

17 Considering how close they are to starting to shoot SW 7 loosing that much weight in a short amount of time is not healthy either. And throw in some plastic surgery It becomes a strain on the body. So he may not be a skinny supermodel but the demands placed on him to look good and fit our image of Luke Skywalker is just as stressful, also not good for the health.

Happy birthday Leonard you skinny Vulcan 82yo hope i make it that farr

23. Son of Jello - March 27, 2013

Maybe they will have to tape up Marks boobs like they did with Carrie Fisher in the original Star Wars.

24. Khaaan, the weasel - March 27, 2013

Actually, I really like Mark Hamill – he comes across as a witty and humble guy whenever I see him talk – but, alas! He sure doesn’t look like Luke Skywalker anymore…

25. Admiral Stedman - March 27, 2013

A little disappointed in the comments about Hamill (and even Fisher).
Of course he’s not going to look the way he did in 1977-1983.
Do you? Do I? Just because we have a voice does not always mean we have to use it. Where’s the Trek optimism?

BTW: The Neighbors is actually quite clever in the writing. Not a Big Bang or a Seinfeld but some of the episodes I’ve seen with my daughter made me laugh. The finale should be good.

26. Ciaran - March 27, 2013

#20: “Is it also just me…or does George have a bit of a crazed look in his eyes in that behind the scenes pic?”

Not in the behind the scenes pic, but the pic from the episode itself, his look is just pure “oh myyyyy!” Lmao!!!

27. Son of Jello - March 27, 2013

25 Whats dissapionting is people who live in first world countries with a high income and access to some of the best food and health services that others can only wish for. End up overweight and give themselvs the possibility of diabeties skeletal issues and other health problems that can shorten their lives dramaticly and having diabeties can cost you your foot.

So Star Trek optimism about things is hard when your surrounded by people who have the means and money to live better end up indulging themselvs with food and unhealthy lifestyles. I dont think anyone is being hard on these people they are just pointing out that guiven the chances for a better and healther life all they did was get fat.

28. Exverlobter - March 27, 2013

@25
“Of course he’s not going to look the way he did in 1977-1983.”

Nobody demands that he looks the same way he did in the 70s. Of course everybody ages, that is normal. But this video is kind of depressing, because Hamills out of shapeness becomes even much more visible next to Takei who is older than Hamill, but looks still younger and healthier.

29. Calastir - March 27, 2013

@ most of the above;

It’s only cannon that Luke is taking to his father.

Just imagine him bald in the Darth Vader suit…

30. Superquerulant - March 27, 2013

If Hamill really returns to Star Wars it shouldn`t be that big of a task to get in shape within the next months – I am much more concerned about Carrie Fisher…

31. The Sinfonian - March 27, 2013

Marina looks so marvelous 26 years later from the “bun” era, however.
.
Mark Hamill’s change in size can be addressed by the fact that Star Wars 7 will be set almost 50 years later (or ABY).

32. porthoses bitch - March 27, 2013

FACTOID: When Star Wars came out in ’77 I was often told I resembled Mark Hamill….sad part of the story is that I still do…

33. Mad Mann - March 27, 2013

Cool, old Star Trek stars on network TV. Now: get a new Star Trek show on network TV!

34. BatlethInTheGroin - March 27, 2013

Sirtis, on the other hand, is still just as hot as ever.

35. Denize - March 27, 2013

Mark Hammill can play Jabba the hut now. Without prosthetics or makeup…

36. T'Cal - March 27, 2013

Don’t you be dissin’ my man Mark Hamill! He is the best Joker ever!! Sure, Ledger was pretty good, and I guess that old guy, Nicholman was OK, but if you’ve never watched Batman The Animated Series or, better yet, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, you’re in for a real treat.

37. Clinton - March 27, 2013

hahaha. I’ll admit it. That clip made me laugh. Nice ribbing.

38. Danpaine - March 27, 2013

I would LOVE to see what some of you who are throwing stones at Hamill actually look like – horror show, I’ll bet. Pass the butter.

Out of all the websites I visit, the posters here are by far the nastiest and show the least class. Ironic too, since Star Trek has always promoted tolerance, equality and most of all, morality.

Try looking in the mirror, why don’t you.

39. Chain of Command - March 27, 2013

People age. Get over it.

40. Mad Mann - March 27, 2013

@38:

Nastiest posters of all websites? Even been to aint it cool? That takes the cake.

41. :) - March 27, 2013

Minds are easily swayed with the talents of photoshoppers- too easily for those who believe they are so intelligent.

Also some medicines make people gain weight as well. Remember also that what comes around goes around too…..everyone grows old.

42. CmdrR - March 27, 2013

Marina in a trenchcoat. My dream is coming true! Oh wait. What’s that orange thing? That’s not supposed to be there.

Glad to see everybody out working. They’re gonna have to carry this group off their respective sets toes first.

43. msn1701 - March 27, 2013

Oh my goodness, Mark Hamill has put on some weight…

It is wonderful to see him and Takei working together :) Inter-fandom connectednes… so awesome :D

44. Frumpus - March 27, 2013

To those saying Mark Hamill needs to get in shape for ep VII, maybe go rewatch ep IV and take a gander at Sir Alec Guinness.

45. Tom - March 27, 2013

He better lose weight and the lisp for Episode VII.

46. MelP - March 27, 2013

Super excited to see Marina in the upcoming NCIS episode!
And gosh. If all you have to say is something nasty about another person (Hamill) why not keep opinions to yourself. How do you think he or other actors feel when reading garbage that other people feel the need to post publicly?

47. Tom - March 27, 2013

@21 — You’re correct. I haven’t aged all that well either. Hamill can at least be recognized as being the same person 25 years later. I doubt that people who knew me 25 years ago can say the same about me.

That said, this fact doesn’t negate the truth in what I said in Comment # 45 above.

If I’m not being charitable to him, than I am being even LESS charitable to myself.

Truth is truth.

48. Phil - March 27, 2013

Part of the reason Shatner became the butt of so many jokes was his insistance on playing an action hero well past his prime physically. I suspect that JJ won’t allow Luke and Leia to be CGI’s into backflipping Jedi in their old age. It was a joke when they did it to Yoda, and would be a joke if they did it to them.

Have you guys taken a good look a Harrison Ford? He’s looking weathered these days, too….let the trio move gracefully into the elder statesmen of the franchise, and all will be fine.

49. Legend of Link - March 27, 2013

God, I hope that’s the /series/ finale and not just the /season/ finale. What an awful show. Yay for Sirtis, though. Still a babe.

50. crazydaystrom - March 27, 2013

What Frumpus said! ^^^^. All Hamill needs are a beard a robe and a lightsaber and he’s good to go.

51. Phil - March 27, 2013

This it the problem you have to retcon stuff. Be it Alec Guniess old Obi Wan, or Enterprise as submarine you can’t look back on previously prepared material and not have that info poison what it is you are looking at. It’s okay for old Luke and Leia to not be acrobats in the upcoming movie. Really.

52. John from Cincinnati - March 27, 2013

Twinkies Luke has eaten I can see

53. Admiral Grand - March 27, 2013

@32 “FACTOID: When Star Wars came out in ’77 I was often told I resembled Mark Hamill….sad part of the story is that I still do…”

Made my freakin’ day with that comment. As to everyone else. Lighten up. Hamill is to 70′s Luke as Shatner is to 60′s Kirk. They are men that played heroic action stars in their youth and have now rounded out to very normal average looking middle/senior aged people. Perhaps we are so harsh because as they are the hero’s of our shared youth, we expect that they will always look as we picture them looking. They are never suppose to become normal/average. To see them as they are now is a stark reminder that time is not only passing for them, but for us as well. We lash out at them because that hero image is slightly tarnished and we irationally blame them for the crime of being normal.

That is just a long winded way of saying, cut the man a break. He’s as human as the rest of us.

54. Pensive's Wetness - March 27, 2013

they can still be normal/adverage seniors. I think some people have concerns (me included) that they dont want their youthful heros to go the way of Elvis…fat, balding and dead on the loo…

55. Red Dead Ryan - March 27, 2013

Sorry, but Mark Hamill really needs to drop a hundred pounds or so if he wants to be in the next “Star Wars” movie.

Movie stars are expected to be in shape. That’s what draws in the audiences, and that is what the actors are paid for.

Nobody wants to see a fat Jedi doing fancy moves with a lightsabre.

Plus it takes away from the credibility of the role, and the believability of the movie.

If Hamill was doing a parody or a comedy, then he wouldn’t have to lose weight. He could go the William Shatner route and make fun of himself.

But Luke Skywalker is a serious role, and a serious performance is needed. And part of that performance requires being in shape!

56. Spork - March 27, 2013

Oh Luke! You’re reminding us too much of the quick passage of time!! :-(, As for Carrie Fisher, she looks great these days since she got back in shape

57. somethoughts - March 27, 2013

Maybe Mark Hamill becomes the next emperor, all he has to do is put on a hoody and talk menacing, what you say about my weight? ZAP THROWS LIGHTNING

58. Lore - March 27, 2013

@36 T’Cal: Mark Hamill was the second choice to be the Joker in BMTAS. Tim Curry was the first choice and recorded 4 episodes. The network decided Tim’s Joker was too scary for kids, so Mark Hamill got the part. Mr Curry is the replacement for Ian Abercrombie as the voice of Darth Sidious in Star Wars The Clone Wars.

59. THX-1138 - March 27, 2013

Oh my gosh, how dare people age! I demand that they look the same as they did 30 or 40 years ago. I have a picture in my head and this just doesn’t fit. Why, look at me! I look exactly the same as when I graduated high school. I can’t believe that these stars don’t conform to an unrealistic body type. I sure hope my teenage daughter grows up to look just like a super-model or Barbie or something.

Come on guys, let’s all come back to reality. Maybe we’ve been watching too much science fiction.

60. Ritz - March 27, 2013

@ 55

So its more realistic for people to remain thin and un-aged throughout life?

61. Capttravis - March 27, 2013

Mark Hamill looks like Grumpy Cat

62. somethoughts - March 27, 2013

Scary how pine will look like that one day lol

63. Jack - March 27, 2013

59, 60, 62. Exactly! We’ve forgotten what mid-60s actually looks like.

He can be an elder statesman Jedi. And, heck, the force should allow abilities no matter what… heck, Darth Vader had no arms, no legs and couldn’t breathe.

64. Just Sayin' - March 27, 2013

Yes friends, this is what happens when sci-fi actors get out of the game long enough and try to make a comeback. Sorry George and Mark…I don’t feel it…

65. William Bradley - March 27, 2013

He could lose 20 pounds without any health risk over the next few months.

>22. Son of Jello – March 27, 2013
17 Considering how close they are to starting to shoot SW 7 loosing that much weight in a short amount of time is not healthy either. And throw in some plastic surgery It becomes a strain on the body. So he may not be a skinny supermodel but the demands placed on him to look good and fit our image of Luke Skywalker is just as stressful, also not good for the health.

66. William Bradley - March 27, 2013

FABULOUS news about Marina Sirtis joining the cast of NCIS.

That is the most widely watched drama on television, by far.

A recurring role as director of Mossad, which interacts a great deal with the NCIS crew, of which the late director’s daughter is a key part, is a great thing for her, and for the show.

But I rather suspect we’ll be seeing a very different side from Counselor Troi. Perhaps more Romulan, if you will. Not that I’m saying the Israelis are like the Romulans, before anyone gets that idea. But her masquerade as a Romulan intelligence officer in TNG might be a bit of prefiguring.

Also, added plus, she looks terrific.

67. T'Cal - March 27, 2013

58. Lore – March 27, 2013

@36 T’Cal: Mark Hamill was the second choice to be the Joker in BMTAS. Tim Curry was the first choice and recorded 4 episodes. The network decided Tim’s Joker was too scary for kids, so Mark Hamill got the part. Mr Curry is the replacement for Ian Abercrombie as the voice of Darth Sidious in Star Wars The Clone Wars.

Lore,

I did not know that. Thanks, pally!

Stay cool,
T’Cal

68. Ahmed - March 27, 2013

NCIS just got better with Marina Sirtis joining the cast.

Mark Hamill will always remain in my mind as Luke Skywalker, even when he is old and I’ve no problem with his weight or age, we all get old eventually,

69. dswynne - March 27, 2013

To all those who is defending Mark Hamill’s appearance in the promo, here is a fit man in his sixties:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzlJ_xDzmdg

So, please, don’t make any excuses for Hamill not being “fit”. Anyone can at any age, you know.

But, I will give him this: Hamill filmed his role in “The Neighbors” BEFORE it was announced that he would have an appearance in SWEp7, and I am sure that TPTB will get him and Carrie Fischer ready for their roles. After all, they DO want to make their money back, after spending $4B on purchasing the Lucas properties…

70. Trekbilly - March 27, 2013

I wish some of you would show…oh I dunnooo…some MATURITY?

You will not look the same as you do now in 20-30 years either.

So shut up!!!

71. Ctrl-Opt-Del - March 27, 2013

When 600 hundred years old you are, look as good you will not, hmm?

Oh, only 61 he is? Day-um…

72. Colin - March 27, 2013

I think all three thespians look great for their age.

73. Clinton - March 27, 2013

Live the good life, Mark. It’s the best revenge against trolls. :-)

74. Chris Roberts - March 27, 2013

Mark Hamill? Wow. I thought he was Harlan Ellison! :)

75. Keachick - March 27, 2013

Marina Sirtis reminds me of Ziva David (NCIS) a little. Of course, it was Ziva David’s father who was killed. Perhaps this new Sirtis Mossad character could be a relative of the David’s?

76. Andrew - March 27, 2013

I don’t care about Star Wars, really. I get that a lot of people are nervous about Mark Hamill but it’s not like he is required to do any action in the next film (at least I doubt it). He’ll probably be a Yoda-like figure for the next generation.

And also, Takei (who is a lot older) still looks great. Can we be happy about that at least? :]

77. Harry Ballz - March 27, 2013

Any of you criticizing our comments regarding Hamill’s weight and looks are missing the point.

If Hamill was some nobody who managed a hardware store in Delaware, well, then who cares how he looks? We wouldn’t even be having this conversation.

But, the moment any person, and I mean ANY person, steps in FRONT of the camera in show business, and gets paid for it, they open the door to comments about their appearance.

If Mark Hamill expects to get the multi-million dollar paycheck (and adulation) for playing Luke Skywalker again, well, then it’s only fair that he show up, all these years later, on screen as a fairly presentable version, albeit older, of Luke Skywalker!

78. Gorn Captain - March 27, 2013

@77 So that justifies nasty rude things said behind the safety of a keyboard?

@69 Not everyone can have a body at that age like Jack LaLanne. ;)

79. Jason - March 27, 2013

#77:Harry Ballz: Face it mate, you’re a keyboard warrior who would never say the things you do to these people in person. You’re a hideous excuse for a human being and I’m ashamed to be a part of the same fanbase as you.

80. Jason - March 27, 2013

Sorry, that was harsh. But then, so was your crack about Hamill’s weight, and your attitude that because someone is famous, that opens them up to ridicule.

81. somethoughts - March 27, 2013

#80

Unfortunately that is the price of fame, they get the good, the bad and the ugly comments.

82. Emperor Mike of the Alternate Empire - March 27, 2013

N.C.I.S is the best show on T.V. Now with Marina Sirtis. It just got better.

83. Red Dead Ryan - March 27, 2013

#77.

Well said Harry!

Actors can afford trainers, and they also can find the time to get some exercise.

Let’s face it: Most actors like to be praised when they are in shape and look good. Therefore it stands to reason that they should be able to accept some criticisms over their appearance should they slack off and become a couch potato. You simply can’t have it both ways in Hollywood.

If Arnold Schwarzenegger takes off his shirt in his next movie, I would expect for him to be buff and fit, not in the current shape he is now, with the sagging belly and man-boobs, otherwise he’d become a punchline on the late night shows.

Aging doesn’t have anything to do with this. Leonard Nimoy is the same age as William Shatner, but is in much better shape. That’s why Nimoy was able to pull off his appearance as Spock Prime in the last movie.

I somehow doubt Daniel Day-Lewis would allow himself to let himself go. He has way too much pride in his work to do that.

Hollywood action movies demand that their stars be in shape. They can get away with being old, but not fat.

84. Al - March 27, 2013

Hamill had extensive facial surgery following car accident in 1978. It was evident in TESB and as the years go by it shows more.

85. Jack - March 27, 2013

Let’s be realistic here — the Star Wars thing appeared in the last five months. Hamill’s involvement has only been talked about, realistically, recently. When was the guy supposed to lose all this weight?

By the way, Takei’s fingers should be sewn together. Okay, glued. He does the stinkin’ Vulcan salute for every bloody photograph, whether it’s related to Trek or not.

His husband does it in photos too. And whenever they’re with George, Nichols and Koenig do it too. You don’t even see Nimoy doing it — and he came up with it (yes, it’s shin, from the blessing, and done with both hands).

It would be like Pam Dauber and Mark Harmon yelling “Nanu Nanu!” in the middle of every conversation. Or Ron Howard giving the Fonzie thumbs up and the “eeeeyyyyy” for every photo. Or Janet Jackson yelling “Dyno-mite!” during every concert. Or Tom Hanks using “To infinity and beyond!” on his business cards. The list goes on. A catchphrase or action performed by another character that has nothing to do with characters they played.

Conan was teasing Shatner for not being able to do it, and his response was, essentially: “Well, my character’s not Vulcan, why would I need to do the Vulcan salute? My character doesn’t do it. Leonard was the one who did that.”

86. Jack - March 27, 2013

” …Hollywood action movies demand that their stars be in shape. They can get away with being old, but not fat.”

And when was the last time Mark Hamill was in a Hollywood action movie, or in any major live action release? He’s supposed to be hiring trainers for voice work?

How many of you guys complaining about this are in your mid-60s?

You’ve seen Schwarzenegger shirtless lately. That’s what a guy at 70 looks like. Who says Hamill’s taking his shirt off?

It’s one thing to think the guys a bit too heavy to play Luke — but it’s another to berate the guy for putting on a few pounds, as naturally happens with age.

Hell, Alec Guiness was paunchy and flabby, compared to his earlier self, in Star Wars — and he was about the same age Hamill is now.

87. somethoughts - March 27, 2013

#85

Nothing wrong with being proud of Star Trek and the Vulcan salute is universal for saying live long and prosper! I love Star Trek, /vulcan salute, it’s fine, they are happy let them be!

88. somethoughts - March 27, 2013

#87

Maybe Mark will play Jabba the Hut, I kid! lol seriously though, fat or thin as long as Hamill, Fisher and Ford does not look out of place in the new film it is all good.

89. Ritz - March 27, 2013

Just because an actor is a public figure and open to criticism does not mean it is necessary or decent or justified.

And if see a Star Wars movie with an old Luke Skywalker in it, I expect to see an old man – you know, exactly what Mark Hamill is. I don’t expect Luke Skywalker to be the exception to the aging process or be immune to body changes. I mean Yoda was a wrinkled green puppet and worked just fine as a wise old Jedi.

90. Exverlobter - March 27, 2013

Guys, old does not automatically mean fat. Nobody is making fun of Mark Hamill for having skin folds which is normal for him.
You can be 60 but still look healthy and lean, if you don’t let yourself go so easily. Go to the treadmill, now!

91. Ritz - March 27, 2013

90. Exverlobter

Good grief, yea he is heaver now but it’s not like he is obese – and yes, for many people, older does mean weight gain.

92. NuWisdom - March 27, 2013

The basic fact is that Mark Hamill does not look healthy as a celebrity, OR as a person. My late father was not much heavier than Hamill is now, and he died of a blood clot in a clogged carotid artery that went into the brain. Point being that Hamill needs to get in shape, not for the upcoming new Star Wars films, but FOR HIS OWN HEALTH.

93. NuWisdom - March 27, 2013

@87 don’t forget, the Vulcan salute was initially a Jewish salute as well.

94. Borgminister - March 27, 2013

Metabolism is not your friend as you age, trust me… :(

95. Red Dead Ryan - March 27, 2013

#86.

Dude, c’mon, it doesn’t matter that Hamill hasn’t done any movies in a long time.

No one wanted to cast him for various reasons.

Now he wants to be in the next “Star Wars” movie. Therefore, he now has the time to get in shape to deliver a credible performance as Luke Skywalker. He has at least a year to get fit. Shouldn’t be a problem for him.

96. Keachick - March 27, 2013

People do age differently; put on weight easily or not; go grey early or not at all (rare though it is probably). Actors are also human beings who owe their looks, hair etc to varying genetic influences, just like the rest of us.

Just because Leonard Nimoy is slimmer than William Shatner does not necessarily mean that he is healthier or fitter. It is likely that Nimoy has to be just as vigilant about maintaining healthy blood sugar levels, proper cholesterol levels, keep up with good cardiovascular fitness etc, as William Shatner does. It is also quite possible that Leonard Nimoy may actually have more of the bad cholesterol in his bloodstream than William Shatner, something he will need to monitor carefully. Strange but true.

Some slim people have been shown to have worse results in terms blood sugar, cholesterol levels etc than the heavier, fatter people. Perhaps this may have to do with slimmer people not thinking they need to pay attention to these things, whereas the fatter people are well aware or certainly made aware that they could have some real health problems.

I mean, how many people here reading this would know what their blood sugar levels were within the last 24 hours or what was considered within the healthy, normal range.

Mark Hamill is a plump 61 year old male. Maybe having him play an older Luke Skywalker may work – or not. It all depends on the story and the actor’s ability to make the part work for him and audiences in general. I guess that is what having producers and director(s) is for – to assess what works and what doesn’t.

97. Jack - March 27, 2013

93. Er, it was never a Jewish salute – it’s a symbol for the letter shin and is done by rabbis in temple, but not as a salute.

87. “I love Star Trek, /vulcan salute, it’s fine, they are happy let them be!”

Hey just like the weight thing for some of you, the Takei thing is my opinion.

98. somethoughts - March 27, 2013

#97

LOL fair enough

99. Jack - March 27, 2013

95. No, Ryan, I agree, he should get in shape — heck, we all should — but I sorta figured people here were saying, look at him right now, he obviously can never ever play Luke Skywalker again because he should have lost weight by now — before publicly being interested in the thing. And that’s not particularly reasonable. In other words, fat people need not apply. But, yeah, should he be fitter? — sure, even just for his own sake.

Unless his Skywalker is like the drunken aging former hero baseball/whatever coach who has given up on everything and let himself go — “Force this.”

And I admit I haven’t been following this that closely — I thought the production had recently said that Fisher and Hamill would be included, or something… so I thought it was already a done deal. I haven’t been following the schedule closely either. i know awhile back they were they talking about starting filming asap. If he has awhile, and can get in shape, sure…

100. somethoughts - March 27, 2013

#98

dam numbering

101. Captain Karl - March 27, 2013

Turned it to my local ABC affiliate and they aren’t showing it. They have some local program preempting it….Hey WPLG…yer an idiot!

So much for me being able to see this.

102. Son of Jello - March 27, 2013

I still fit into my pants that I was wearing when I was 20. Most of the people I know would be struggling to get a sock from last Christmas onto their foot. The reason for this is eating the right food in the right amounts is hard work but It has to be done. Marks weight is his own fault like i said in an earlier post and others has repeated. Carrying that kind of weight is a serious health issue and for some people an early death sentence or the loss of your limbs in some cases. If there was no SW7 the news could have been “Mark Hammil died today and a wall was removed and a crane used to get his fat ass out of his death bed” (it happens). I know from talking with my friends who are overweight that I am saving thousands each year by not having the medical issues related to obesity.

Modern food may be convenient and easy to access but It will kill you faster than you can eat it. Controle,Controle you must learn Controle

103. somethoughts - March 27, 2013

Time to get my Chris Pine haircut and do more cardio, and eat smaller healthier meals every few hours. I know the wife will dig it, and a little flirting doesn’t hurt anyone hehe

P90X time! lol

104. THX-1138 - March 27, 2013

I don’t care what your profession is. I don’t hold people to any higher standard than I hold myself to. Do I have the same physique that I had 30 years ago? No, I have other things to do with my time than work out constantly (which is what you need to do when you’re 60, which I’m not, and want to look 30). Plus I love to eat. Food. Omnivorously.

Also there is this thing called genetics. I have a friend who is a dancer. He had a great build when he was young, obviously from all the dancing he did (jazz, improv, even a little hip-hop when it was in style), and he taught classes 5 days a week. Then he got older and heavier, even though he didn’t work out any less. The guy is as fit as a horse but looks like John Belushi. Point being, Hamill might BE working out and it’s just not showing because of his genetic make up. And maybe he is the type of guy that just has to stop drinking beer on the weekends and will lose 20 pounds in a month.

But really, we ALL should stop holding people to standards that we don’t hold for ourselves, regardless of what we do for a living. Plus, he’s Luke Skywalker and you’re not.

105. Jack - March 27, 2013

102. Sure. There’s also genetics. I dated a guy years ago with washboard abs (he had ‘em in his 20s and I just saw a vacation photo on facebook, he still has them in his mid-40s) who ate mainly mcdonalds, dranks loads of beer every day and did absolutely no exercise. He said he was skinny because he smoked. Jerk. I was hoping it would catch up with him, but, alas it hasn’t.

When I was 30, I couldn’t put weight on to save my life, now I eat better — and less — and I’m still always a couple of numbers above my recommended BMI, even though I’m not pudgy. But, yeah, I guess I’m a little sensitive to this topic.

I used to tell everybody “diet, diet, diet!” — and then I noticed my own body changing. Even though I eat absurdly well — few-to-no-complex carbs, no flour or sugar/cornsyrup/sweeteners ever, no processed foods, lots of greens, no more than 15g of sugar a day from fruits, dairy etc, healthy low-fat protein, small portions — and work out harder and more often than I ever did in my 20s or 30s.

And then there’s daily activity. When I’ve lived in big cities like New York, London and Toronto where I can, and do, walk everywhere (to work, to the store, to the gym — everywhere) — I don’t need to go to the gym to stay skinny.

But when I’ve lived in suburban, er, hellholes where nothing, not even the drugstore, is within a 45-minute walking distance, and worse, most of the major roads don’t have sidewalks… well, even crazy workouts don’t help. Top that off with a job sitting behind a desk all day, and suddenly I’m 20 pounds heavier, regardless of all the yoga classes and boot camps. Especially after 40. And at a certain point, you ask yourself “why am I working so hard at this?” Sure, fitness matters — but looking fit?

106. MikeyP - March 27, 2013

Star Trek is losing?!! Vote now http://io9.com/io9s-march-tv-madness-doctor-who-vs-star-trek-tng-458789938

107. Son of Jello - March 27, 2013

104 We are all omnivore,s Its a trait of humanity but also a trait of humanity is the ability to make choices informed desicions and evaluate the conciquenses of them. Its also a human trait to ignore all the evidence and advice that says what you are doing is wrong. Bioligy can have an effect on what we eat Lactose intolerance, diabetes etc. But they are not excuses or reasons especially when you are made aware of these issues in your life.

I dont care how you try to spin it carrying around kgs apon kgs of fat is going to get you killed and it will be your own fault. I dont think anyone is being held to a standard being fat/obese is a result of consumption of the wrong kind of food in large quantities and like smoking obesity has a financial impact on family and community. Your freind appart from looking like a deceased comedian is going to have unseen health issues that will shorten his life. His atreries will be starting to block, blood flow to parts of the body will be reduced and he will go beyond the rim before his time.

If you dont watch your diet and what it contains regardless of your genetic makeup of carrear choices being fat/obese will kill you

108. TDrake1701 - March 27, 2013

LOVE NCIS and think it will be a good fit for Marina. It will be good to see her on TV again. Met her a few years ago- great to the fans…

109. AndrosZ - March 27, 2013

http://io9.com/io9s-march-tv-madness-doctor-who-vs-star-trek-tng-458789938

TNG is losing?!

110. Lemingsworth Bint - March 27, 2013

Shatner never bothered to lose any weight for his later Star Trek work. I don’t know why people are expecting Hamill and Fisher to show up for Episode VII all slender and svelt.

111. Son of Jello - March 27, 2013

Maybe its not hammil that is overweight it could be that the medicloriens have really let themselvs go. The Empire is defeated Darth Vader is dead they havent got Yoda riding their ass about the force so they are just kicking back and enjoying the lighter side of the force. Having a couple of beers in the lower colon club, Lazing about in his spleen, Maybe even going on drunken benders and really trashing the place.

112. Red Dead Ryan - March 27, 2013

#110.

“Shatner never bothered to lose any weight for his later Star Trek work. I don’t know why people are expecting Hamill and Fisher to show up for Episode VII all slender and svelt.”

And the result was Shatner became a punchline during the last several Trek movies he filmed.

113. Red Dead Ryan - March 27, 2013

became=becoming

114. Keachick - March 27, 2013

#107 – If only it were that simple. It is certainly not for my husband. Perhaps, for the majority, it may well be as simple as you suggest, but for some – No.

Not enough is actually known about how food, especially many of the processed foods including milk, can affect people’s metabolism and overall health in the longterm. Then there is pollution, too much noise, too much light, stress – all have their impacts or not, depending on who you are, where you are, how old you are… What’s more, theories abound. One minute, we are being told that eggs are bad, then they realize that the cholesterol found in eggs is not so bad, low fat is best until it was found that many of the essential fat soluble vitamins had been removed and so it goes on…

a *good* one downunder is the fact that we have been told to stay out of the sun or to slap on copious amounts of sunscreen, except that now it is suspected that some of the sunscreens themselves may be responsible for some skin cancers. Now there are people who are vitamin D deficient because they have not had enough sun – prolonged vitamin D deficiency can cause osteoporosis, ie incurable brittle-bone disease, very painful, very debilitating.

I think everyone needs to take a look at what they can improve upon that is obvious and has stood the test of time. The sensible and kind thing to do is to encourage in yourself and others a common sense approach and not go on berating aging actors for not living up to expectations of having the “perfect body”. Not even *Chris Pine has a perfect body, otherwise he would not have acne scarring and other…

* I am sure I do not need to repeat how I feel when I see that man looking as he does most of the time…:)

115. Keachick - March 27, 2013

#112 – “Shatner became a punchline…” He did? Not to me!

116. I'mPaul - March 27, 2013

You people are awful.

Mark Hamill doesn’t owe you anything. Not his fitness. Not his health. NOTHING. You know I don’t know too many Trekkies shaped like Greek gods. At least he has an aging metabolism, just like most people, as a reason to justify weight gain. A lot of you just have video games and a lack of motivation to use as an EXCUSE. So bug off. If he’s in the movie, swell, if not that’s fine too but it had better not be because he was too fat for the film. He’s probably in his sixties…just like Luke Skywalker would be? He doesn’t need to be an action hero to be in the movie and people don’t need to be thin to be credible. This is downright bigoted and some of the most shallow garbage I think I’ve ever been exposed to by adults.

117. Ahmed - March 27, 2013

@116. I’mPau

Well said Paul. Some of the comments here about Mark Hamill are simply abhorring & show complete disrespect to a person just because he is old & not thin.

118. MJ - March 27, 2013

Memo to Mark Hammil:

Dude, seriously…NOW would be the time to start the Episode 6 diet program. You like like me at a Trek convention, although I am not quite as fat as you.

Come on, man…it’s Star Wars…look presentable please!!!!!

119. MJ - March 28, 2013

“Episode 7″

120. MJ - March 28, 2013

I mean if Hammil and Fischer aren’t going to make the effort to get into shape, then what in the hell is Disney thinking? This is going to be painful to watch them if they are going to show up looking like they have recently.

If someone gave me a million dollar contract, I absolutely guarantee you that I would lose the extra 40 pounds that I am carrying within 3 months. What arrogance to not care enough like this seems to indicate? You would think he already would have spent several months with a personal trainer and a chef???

121. Theatre Historian_Levi - March 28, 2013

Sad how nasty and rude a good portion of these comments are.

honestly not cool trash talking someones appearance you don’t know.

Thats all I have to say on the matter.

122. Son of Jello - March 28, 2013

116 my comments in 121 are a response to your comments forgot to mention that.

123. Son of Jello - March 28, 2013

122 These people are in the public eye entire industries revolve around what they are doing, who they are seeing, what they had for breakfast, what they look like. No I dont know these people but without our obsessions,opinions good or bad there is no work for actors. How would an actor know how much to charge for a gig if there was no buzz, talk, contriversy to guage their worth to a studio,s income. If nobody knows who you are its minnimum wage all the way to the bank. Im not saying its good im saying thats their role in society. And i dont see actors backing away from that any time soon.

124. ScottC - March 28, 2013

Pretty tacky comments by most of the people here. Its amazing how they are tolerant about some things and not others. I ‘d like to see how many are rocking killer bodies themselves but are most likely fat little trolls themselves!

125. MJ - March 28, 2013

@116 @121

Oh, come on! These actors are going to be paid big money to play major characters in a franchise film. Suck it up and get the personal trainer, chef, and make a fracking effort at least to look the part.

I have sacrificed so much to keep my job during some very difficult times in the past several years. These people’s jobs depends a lot on their appearance, but everything I am still seeing right now as filming on Ep7 approaches shows me that Hammil at least is not giving a crap about getting in shape.

The level of entitlement here is astounding, and those of you who are whining about how mean I am are “enablers” of Hammil’s lack of caring to get himself in shape, etc.

126. Theatre Historian_Levi - March 28, 2013

125,
Its not my place or your place to comment on their apperance especially someone you have never met or know.
sometimes its better to keep ones opinons to ones self

And thats my thought on the matter.

127. Son of Jello - March 28, 2013

124 I think you will find that a lot of people who contribute to these comments are pretty open to admiting they are bald, overweight and are not to hung up on how they look. But we are not celebrities or movie stars with a beloved charachtor that we portray on the screen we are ordinary minnimum wage save up for a holiday credit card debt,s typ of people. Mark Hammil is none of those things he is the actor who plays Luke Skywalker a beloved and admired charactor from a Movie. And because of that he needs to get his act together to portray Luke once again. It,s not Star Wars 7 the adventures of Mark Hammil. Its about the charactor he portrays in Star Wars that we are worried about. And if we have to give Mark a hard time about his appearence then thats the way it is. SW fans have had to swallow alot of crap from this franchise and asking actors to be in shape for their role is not to much to ask.

128. Son of Jello - March 28, 2013

128 is a response to 125 not 124.

129. Son of Jello - March 28, 2013

126 Hi MJ Im not going to argue with you today im making easter eggs. But did you mean my comment 121. I think we have a similar if not the same opinion about hammil.:) He needs to get into shape for the sake of the charactor.

130. MJ - March 28, 2013

Son of Jello,

Yea, dude, you and I agree on much of this. My numbering (Google Chrome browser) shows “I’m Paul” and “Levi-Historian” as 116 and 121 — that is who I was responding to.

131. MJ - March 28, 2013

@126 “Its not my place or your place to comment on their appearance especially someone you have never met or know.”

Huh??? This is not us invading a private persons life and telling them to get in shape. Their job is public performance, and this role is playing Luke Skywalker. Where are you coming from on this? Not getting at all your POV, here???

Of course it is my place as a movie fan and sf fan to comment if the actor playing Mark Hammil doesn’t look anything remotely like what I would think Luke Skywalker would like like. And you are not going to convince me otherwise.

132. Red Dead Ryan - March 28, 2013

Let me tell you something. If I was asked to be in the next “Star Wars” movie I’d definitely make fure that I was in shape. Especially if they handed me a ten million dollar cheque. I’d ask for a trainer and go a diet regimen right off the bat.

Fortunately, I am 5 foot 8 and roughly 150 pounds. And I do a lot of walking so I am relatively fit. And I do eat a lot of junk food.

On the other hand, unfortunately I am not expecting to be cast in the next SW movie. ;-(

133. Red Dead Ryan - March 28, 2013

fure=sure

DAMN TYPOS!!!

Also, why do some people here insist we can’t say anything negative about Hollywood actors? They earn a heck of a lot of money, arguably much more than they deserve, and the least they should do is get in proper shape should the role demand it. The role of Luke Skywalker does demand that Mark Hamill be in shape.

134. Dolphinitely Qualiens - March 28, 2013

Oh my god!!! Throw a green suit loaded with motion sensors on Fisher and Hammil immediately and start shooting so the editors can control the waddle content with CG Barbie fit, cut bods on my Jedi masters Yeah!!

135. Tiger - March 28, 2013

@127

Ok I think people get that, but what exactly do people expect Hamil to do?? Someone else said it, the guy didnt know until 1-2 months ago he was going to be in a SW movie again WHICH just got announced 5 months ago!! Hamill is not really a screen actor anymore, he’s more of a voice actor these days, hence he didnt HAVE to stay in shape for roles. Besides the odd cameo, as shown above, the guy has not been a serious screen actor since the 80s and early 90s, so what do people expect?? Hamill is much of a ‘Hollywood actor’ these days about as much as Screech from Save By The Bell is a ‘Tv personality’. Lets stop kidding ourselves.

And furthermore people, he’s known hes going to be in this movie probably a month now…assuming they officially signed on and hes been pretty big for the last decade or so so how much weight do people expect him to lose that quickly? He probably IS working out but its going to take time. His he suppose to drop 20 pounds a day or something?

And regardless, face the reality, hes not going to be this slim down, tight ab looking jedi everyone wants. He is going to be an over weight, middled aged older looking guy. Even THX can only do so much.

Yeah, he’s not Nimoy or Patrick Stewart, but they still work so they still stay in decent shape for their ages. Hell Nimoy ‘retired’ years ago and you still see that guy on screen then you seen Hamill. Cut the guy some slack! He looks like this a year ago at this time, then ok, I can understand the concern, but I think he will try hard to look the part as best he can.

136. Tiger - March 28, 2013

LOL, that was suppose to be ILM, not THX! ;)

137. Kirk's Girdle - March 28, 2013

Son of Jello – nice “beyond the rim” reference.

I must say I’m amazed at the vehemence of the fat defenders out there. Staying in shape as you get older is harder all the time but not impossible. I give up a lot in life in order to look like I did 20 years ago, and what’s funny is how much grief I get from people telling me I don’t need to lose weight, that I’m obsessed and my activity isn’t healthy. Meanwhile these people are all clinically obese, as is Hamill, but I can’t say that because it would be mean.

And yes my Screen name is a punchline

138. Kirk's Girdle - March 28, 2013

And kudos to Marina Sirtis. I don’t watch, but NCIS is a really choice gig.

139. ScottC - March 28, 2013

I could really care less that Mark Hammill or Carrie Fischer have gained weight and don’t meet the visual expectations of fans. Its their life. If most of the commenters on this site were in charge of making films, they would never get made because of the huge unrealistic expectations they have.

And remember folks: this is all make believe, and if you don’t like it, don’t pay your money and watch it!

140. Check the Circuit - March 28, 2013

What a disappointment to see these comments about some one’s appearance. You claim to be Star Trek fans. Were you paying attention? How episodes were about looking beyond the superficial?

You have an opinion or criticism? Say it with some class and respect. As Trek fans, I believe we are supposed to help lead the way toward tolerance and enlightenment.

And for those of you wanting to be paid to lose weight…maybe you should consider doing it for your health.

141. Vger23 - March 28, 2013

The irony of a buch of overweight, basement-dwelling nerds -who would fall apart at the meer thought of participating in an organized athletic competition- posting on a sci-fi website about a celebrity’s weight issue should not be lost on anyone here.

But I know it is…!

142. somethoughts - March 28, 2013

worst episode ever ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzyd91NFx-Y

143. Mark Lynch - March 28, 2013

So many horrible comments about, by all accounts, a decent man… You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Internet anonymity makes “loud mouthed arses” out of those who would not normally say “boo” to a goose.

Just how many of you would be this vitriolic and rude to Mark Hamill face to face? Pathetic you lot are, really.

144. Mark Lynch - March 28, 2013

Marina Sirtis is still looking good these days…

145. somethoughts - March 28, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAdUcp8u3zQ

This is how we all are on here lol

146. Jack - March 28, 2013

132. Nobody’s giving Hamill a 10 million dollar cheque.

“Fortunately, I am 5 foot 8 and roughly 150 pounds. And I do a lot of walking so I am relatively fit. And I do eat a lot of junk food.”

That explains the views, I think. Not everybody’s so lucky…

147. somethoughts - March 28, 2013

we can have a good laugh guys, c’mon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czEXZH_HOFo

148. somethoughts - March 28, 2013

I wonder if Into Darkness we see Pine and Cumberbatch do this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9TZ79Vcl8Y

149. BatlethInTheGroin - March 28, 2013

#143: Agreed. Mark Hamill is a true gem in Hollywood–he’s one hell of a nice guy to everyone he meets. Those bashing him for his weight gain are shallow a-holes–and I’ll bet at least half of them are obese.

150. Elias Javalis - March 28, 2013

Anyone remember Mark in Wing Commander III? It was a pleasure navigate him!!:):)

151. Kirk's Girdle - March 28, 2013

For the most part, I don’t think the comments have been cruel and vitriolic, although there were a few harsh ones in there. Most were simply stating the fact that Mark Hamill is, or was at the time of that picture, quite overweight according to conventional medical guidelines. The fact that almost nobody follows them these days does not negate that.

Some argued about Alec Guinness looking pudgy or flabby but I think the robes concealed his physique it didn’t really show in his face. Truthfully, there were almost no fat humanoids in Star Wars except for that one fat dancer in Jabba’s palace.

As for Mark Hamill being mortally wounded at the mention of his weight, he’s a big boy (no pun intended) who’s been around the block in Hollywood a few times and in any event, that conversation has probably already taken place during contract negotiations. Let us not forget Carrie Fisher’s trip to “fat camp” before cameras started rolling on the original film.

These days actors are pushed into intensive fitness regimens, taught to fight martial arts, trained in expert horsemanship, sent through military field and weapons training, and coached in foreign languages and dialects (and get paid for it) all in order to better inhabit the roles in which they are cast. If the studio wants him in shape and he signed on the line, they’ll get him there.

152. Gilberto - March 28, 2013

Instead of criticizing Hammil’s weight, I prefer to do what few have noticed: I’d like to say it’s wonderful that Mr. Takei is so FIT! He’s an elderly man, but he’s in great shape for a man ANY AGE!

153. Jack - March 28, 2013

Incidentally, I saw GI Joe last night. It’s not as terrible as the first. Of course, I went for popcorn and missed half of the Trek trailer. It looked like it was indeed that Oz trailer I’d seen online. Audience reaction to the trailer was tepid.

154. MJ - March 28, 2013

“Some argued about Alec Guinness looking pudgy or flabby but I think the robes concealed his physique it didn’t really show in his face. Truthfully, there were almost no fat humanoids in Star Wars except for that one fat dancer in Jabba’s palace. As for Mark Hamill being mortally wounded at the mention of his weight, he’s a big boy (no pun intended) who’s been around the block in Hollywood a few times and in any event, that conversation has probably already taken place during contract negotiations. Let us not forget Carrie Fisher’s trip to “fat camp” before cameras started rolling on the original film. These days actors are pushed into intensive fitness regimens, taught to fight martial arts, trained in expert horsemanship, sent through military field and weapons training, and coached in foreign languages and dialects (and get paid for it) all in order to better inhabit the roles in which they are cast. If the studio wants him in shape and he signed on the line, they’ll get him there.”

EXACTLY !!!!!

155. somethoughts - March 28, 2013

Yes just like the matrix, they trained for almost a year doing kung fu, choreography etc, or 300 they were on some crazy diet and daily intense exercise to get that six pack sparta look

156. Kenneth Flanagan - March 28, 2013

Brent Spiner was in Independence Day back in 1996. If they say his character was not killed off he might end up in the sequels now in preproduction.

157. Elmachocombo - March 28, 2013

If it hasn’t already been mentioned Mark went through the windshield of a car in 1979 and nearly died. His face was crushed and had to be reconstructed. The Wampa bitch slap was added to help explain the dramatic difference in his appearance. You can hear it in his voice too. His nasal cavity was a mess while filming Empire. Considering this he looks damn good. George on the other hand is an immortal.

158. MJ - March 28, 2013

So you are all saying that in contract negotiations, the shape that Hammill and Fisher are currently in should not even be brought up at all? That the studio shouldn’t incentivize them at all to lose some weight? That seems to be what I am hearing here?

159. Red Dead Ryan - March 28, 2013

Today’s actors are well compensated. Hamill and Fisher shouldn’t have too much difficulty losing weight with the resources that are at their disposal that the rest of us either don’t have access to and/or cannot afford.

And yeah, if Carrie Fisher can accept the compliments about how she looked during the original “Star Wars” trilogy, then she can certainly expect some criticism over the way she looks now. Ditto for Hamill.

You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Especially film actors. If they’re willing to accept all the praise when it is warrented, the same should be true of criticisms should the actors fail to keep their end of the bargain.

Had Hamill quit acting altogether, then yeah, some of us wouldn’t be mentioning his weight. But he didn’t quit. He’s obviously wanted to do live-action movies and series for quite some time, but nobody was casting him.

The idea that actors are above criticism concerning their weight is ridiculous. Its insane that we supposedly cannot criticise an actor when he/she becomes overweight and unfit, but that we heap loads of praise on them when they are buff, ripped, and fit.

160. Jack - March 28, 2013

The question is — would the character have gotten fatter? And is Hamill even that fat? For sure he’s bloated, but it’s hard to tell if he’s in pre-diet Jonah Hill territory from these pictures.

Nobody here seemed to mind James Doohan putting on (a lot) weight, but Shatner getting chubby (?) horrifies a bunch of us. Are we saying James T. Kirk would have been dieting and competing in Iron Mans at 80? Would a Jedi Master put on a few extra pounds?

Is weight gain a disease that we will have cured by the 24th century? Or that they cured a long time ago in a galaxy… I don’t know.

It’s easy to judge others when you’re 30 and have a metabolism that lets you eat whatever you want. ;)

161. Anthony Thompson - March 28, 2013

George, the King of all media! Go George! You’re leaving Shatner in the dust.

162. Anthony Thompson - March 28, 2013

I think Hamill might be using the “cueball coverup” method.

163. Craiger - March 28, 2013

Here is Carrie Fisher on Craig Ferguson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW9fuTGbHug

164. Kirk's Girdle - March 28, 2013

Yeah, she’s not really overweight but she was a Weight Watcher’s spokesperson about two years ago so she’s already gotten to a fairly good place. What is sad is how the drinkin’ n druggin’ makes her look and sound a lot older than she is, which is only 55.

Ouch. Longest twin birth ever.

165. Jim Phelps - March 28, 2013

This is off subject but here are pictures of the bridge of the ship where John Harrison is sitting in the captains chair. Also notice the bald headed fellow at the navigator position. I think it might be the GATT character.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=207106&page=5

166. Jovius the Romulan - March 28, 2013

#17: Thank you. Finally a voice of reason.

To everyone else, there’s not even any evidence that Episode VII will have the same characters. So, kindly cool your jets about Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher’s ages and fitness level.

167. Jovius the Romulan - March 28, 2013

#159: On the other side of the coin, I reject the idea that everyone should feel free to talk sh** about actors over something incredibly superficial as their appearance.

168. Red Dead Ryan - March 28, 2013

#160.

Difference is, Doohan wasn’t playing an action hero. William Shatner was.

#167.

There is nothing superficial about judging Hollywood actors’ appearances. Image is a big part of the game, and especially in sci-fi action movies such as “Star Wars” where actors DO need to be in shape and look reasonably healthy. Otherwise, it all becomes a big joke.

169. Ahmed - March 28, 2013

@168. Red Dead Rya

Given the fact that Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill & Carrie Fisher are much older now, no one is expecting them to play super Jedi masters or do serious action scenes.

Begin a bit fat doesn’t prevent actors from playing strong characters, case in point Robert De Niro in “The Untouchables”. He gained weight & delivered a top notch performance as Al Capone.

Also Sylvester Stallone was fat & sloppy in “Cop Land”, the only good character movie that he did.

Abrams is a smart director, he will find a way to use the 3 legends in ways that respect their legacy & benefit the movie as well.

170. MJ - March 28, 2013

@167 “On the other side of the coin, I reject the idea that everyone should feel free to talk sh** about actors over something incredibly superficial as their appearance.”

Yea, I mean, why would anyone care what actors look like?

LOL WTF???

171. MJ - March 28, 2013

“Also Sylvester Stallone was fat & sloppy in “Cop Land”, the only good character movie that he did.”

I’m glad you brought up Sylvester Stallone. He is the perhaps the best example in movie history of an actor who will get in any shape required based on the requirements of the movie, story and director.

Ahmed, you just unintentionally proved my entire point for me here. Thanks! :-)

172. Ahmed - March 28, 2013

@ 171. MJ – March 28, 2013

“I’m glad you brought up Sylvester Stallone. He is the perhaps the best example in movie history of an actor who will get in any shape required based on the requirements of the movie, story and director.

Ahmed, you just unintentionally proved my entire point for me here. Thanks! :-)”

lol, guess “Cop Land” isn’t the perfect support for my argument, the movie just popped up in my head with all the discussion about actors & their weight.

I will probably watch “Cop Land” again, it is the ONLY Stallone movie that I watched more than once!

173. K-7 - March 29, 2013

#167 “On the other side of the coin, I reject the idea that everyone should feel free to talk sh** about actors over something incredibly superficial as their appearance.”

That is called “radio”. That is the medium where you don’t have to look the part.

LOL

174. Red Dead Ryan - March 29, 2013

#169.

The reason why Robert de Niro gained weight to play Al Capone was because….drumroll please….he was portraying a REAL person. So it stands to reason that, in this case, he’d gain weight to match the physique of the character he was playing.

Whoops! :-)

175. Ahmed - March 29, 2013

@174. Red Dead Rya

Then what is the problem if Mark Hamill is set to play an older & much weaker Luke, given the passage of time after Return of the Jedi ?

And you know, the 3 original actors might appear only for few minutes in Ep 7, and all this discussion over their weight will be pointless in a way, right ?

176. Red Dead Ryan - March 29, 2013

#175.

It’s about credibility. If the actors are fat, nobody’s going to believe they are playing the same characters they did fourty years ago. People are going to think to themselves as they watch the movie “Gee, how did Luke Skywalker, who once did backflips and fancy lightsaber moves while defeating the empire, let himself become fat?”

If this was a drama or comedy, I suppose his weight would not be an issue. But if he’s going to resurrect his role as a Jedi, one would think that the force inside Luke Skywalker would allow him a higher metabolic rate than that of non-force capable people his age.

And we know that Obi Wan Kenobi was still strong with the force at the time of his physical death in “A New Hope”.

177. MJ - March 29, 2013

Palpatine, Vader, Obi Wan and Yoda never got really fat in their old age, so why would Luke look really fat like Hammil does now? It is just not credible.

178. Red Dead Ryan - March 29, 2013

#177.

The force helped keep Vader alive (along with the mechanical components, of course). The force helped keep Palpatine physically strong considering his age, and Yoda was still able to walk, talk, and use the force to lift Luke’s X-Wing out of the swamp. And that was just before he passed on.

Count Dooku was old, yet he was very fit and nimble.

I’m sorry, but a fat Luke Skywalker will become a punchline for geeks all over, and the source of skits/parodies on “Saturday Night Live” and “Family Guy”.

179. Harry Ballz - March 29, 2013

Comments about Hamill’s weight are just that, comments. It’s called having an opinion. Making an observation. It’s not an insult.

Nobody expects Hamill to appear lean and mean in Episode 7, but he should have some semblance of appearance that denotes older, refined dignity.

None of us are suggesting that we expect Ford, Fisher or Hamill to look EXACTLY like they did all those many years ago…..just don’t have them show up looking fat and as a diminished version of what we remember about those beloved characters.

If movies are fantasy, which they are, then show us these three as older dignified versions of what we once enjoyed, all those many years ago.

180. Harry Ballz - March 29, 2013

Trivia fact; On the old I Love Lucy show, Vivian Vance had a stipulation in her contract that she must keep an extra 10 pounds of weight on, so that she didn’t visually compete with looking attractive as compared to Lucy.

Hollywood has always insisted on having control over a performer’s weight. It will, obviously, be no different in this case.

I predict all three original actors will look pretty damn good when they show up on screen.

When a company pays 4 billion dollars for something, you can bet they want it to come out right!

181. pegasus - March 29, 2013

Mark Hamill was awesome in Wing Commander: Heart of the Tiger — really, a fun and interesting performance and game. That work of his, for me, is right up there with the integrity of Star Wars. Mark Hamill may not look like he’s 20, but he sure is a powerful character actor and an interesting performer.

The Neighbours isn’t laugh out loud funny. It’s more… yeah I got that, funny. It wears on me, I find. I watched two episodes and then the third one was a bit too annoying to to finish up. So I skipped to the third, which ended my watching of it. Might check it out again for the sake of these two tho… hopefully garner a few smiles from a nerd :)

182. AJ - March 29, 2013

God. “Nikita” is an awful, awful show.

183. Emperor Mike of the Empire - March 29, 2013

Ok. I have been staying away from the main threds because of all the nonsense people post. Yet these same people claim to to be Trek fans. What a Joke!.

1. Mark Hamill is a very nice person and I am sure he could lose what ever weight he would need to in order to play in Star Wars. Same goes for Carrie Fisher. In fact she has already lost some weight.

2. Actors gain and loose weight all the time for roles.
Actor Vincent d’onofrio gained a lot of weight to play Lawrence or Gomer Pyle in Full Metal Jacket.

Tom Hanks lost a lot of weight in Cast Away.

Charlize Theron Gained a lot of weight to play in the Movie. Monster.
Just a few examples.

So what would be so hard to believe that an Actor like Mark Hamill could get back into shape and play Luke one more time.

People need to quit blasting others if they don’t fit there mold of there perfect world. To do so is just Illogical.

184. Phil - March 29, 2013

Hugh Jackman put it on and took it off for Les Mis. I’d be more concerned about age at this point – Jedi masters or not, it’s unreasonable for fans to expect these guys to be doing the acrobatics that are expected of people performing in the SW franchise these days. I can live with that….

185. AJ - March 29, 2013

180:

Harry: Disney may want the actors back (Hamill, Ford, Fisher) just for sentimental value. JJ will have them pushed off a cliff or the MF will explode in the first 5 minutes. There’s an ep of “Family Guy” where Peter Griffin, as Han Solo, says “Look. There are 5 main characters on this ship. I think we’ll survive.”

SW7 won’t be the same because it needs new people to carry it forward. Maybe Hamill, Fisher & Ford will just sit there and reminisce and JJ will crank out a re-boot of A New Hope. That would be cynical at best, I won’t bother seeing it either way.

186. Harry Ballz - March 29, 2013

AJ, I know that the original 3 will play a secondary role in the next film. That’s fine. Nobody is suggesting that they show up all buffed and ready to do acrobatic backflips. I just expect those characters to be depicted in such a way that it doesn’t TAKE AWAY from the nostalgia of the original films.

Kind of like Nimoy’s turn in Star Trek 2009. That appearance by him didn’t take away from the legacy of the original Spock character.

187. Ahmed - March 29, 2013

@186. Harry Ballz

At least Harrison Ford is in a much better shape than Hamill & Fisher.

188. Phil - March 29, 2013

Harrison Ford is still 70 years old. If he and the others are featured players, the expectation is that they will be leaders or commanders. Luke won’t be strapping on the lightsaber one more time….

189. THX-1138 - March 29, 2013

I disagree, Harry, at your suggestion that there is something “un-dignified” about a 60+ year old man being overweight. Perhaps that was not the word you were looking for.

Since in reality as people age their appearance changes why is the same thing not acceptable in movies? Especially if one is trying to achieve a sense of realism?

Anyway, Yoda said you shouldn’t judge people by their appearances, so in the Star Wars universe that’s good enough for me.

190. Son of Jello - March 29, 2013

On a positive note with all the voice training for the animation work Mark Hammils singing voice should be in good shape for the song at the end.

191. MJ - March 30, 2013

“None of us are suggesting that we expect Ford, Fisher or Hamill to look EXACTLY like they did all those many years ago…..just don’t have them show up looking fat and as a diminished version of what we remember about those beloved characters.”

Well said, Harry.

” Mark Hamill is a very nice person and I am sure he could lose what ever weight he would need to in order to play in Star Wars. Same goes for Carrie Fisher. In fact she has already lost some weight. Actors gain and loose weight all the time for roles. Actor Vincent d’onofrio gained a lot of weight to play Lawrence or Gomer Pyle in Full Metal Jacket. Tom Hanks lost a lot of weight in Cast Away. Charlize Theron Gained a lot of weight to play in the Movie. Monster. Just a few examples. So what would be so hard to believe that an Actor like Mark Hamill could get back into shape and play Luke one more time.”

Exactly, BB. Honestly, I don’t get the opinion here of some that are inferring that we shouldn’t even bring this up and they they would just as soon Hammil and Fisher play these beloved characters in their current physical condition, and that the studio should not be encouraging them to lose weight???

192. Jack - March 30, 2013

180. The Vance thing is apparently a myth. But she did wear frumpy clothes. And asked to have that changed for the next series (along with naming her character Vivian because she hated people calling her Ethel on the street).

193. Jack - March 30, 2013

http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/vance.asp

And other places. Bill Brioux debunks this too.

194. Disinvited - March 30, 2013

#177 MJ

If memory serves the original Vader’s Ghost in ROJ wasn’t exactly slim. But the redone one is so the point that Hollywood doesn’t favor heft is made.

195. Bender Bending Rodriguez - March 30, 2013

I cannot believe the nastiness and cruelty on this board. I can’t believe how shallow you all are. It’s obvious that in y’alls “shallow-verse” a person needs be young and never change, and its rulers need to be able to give their personal thumbs up as to someone’s physical appearance (unless of course there were a puppet, or a CGI creation or someone dressed up like an alien). Plus, people’s physique changes sometimes because of heatlh problems. Did anyone of you high-and-mighty ones passing judgment think of that? Plus, where are pictures of all of you in bathing suits? Is this a board dominated by SI swimsuit and GQ models? Look in a mirror before you start to criticize.

Mr. Hamill, if you are reading this,: thank you for all of the years of entertainment you have brought me and my kids. I can’t tell you how long I’ve hoped to see you as Luke Skywalker again on the big screen. I am looking forward to taking my kids to see you in Episode VII.

196. David - March 30, 2013

i hate to tell you this but asian peoples age better than americans. Known knowledge. Sorry guys, but i really dont give a crap about what they weigh if they can act. It takes place many years down the road. They have kids most likely or desk jobs. So honestly, it goes with the story. It is depressing you guys talk all that much about looks instead of the actual acting. Thats what I am concerned about. Geez. When you get old, I hope you gain some weight have a full time job and a family with kids to take care of and then tell me why you gain weight.

197. AJ - March 30, 2013

There is a lot less vitriol here than is being complained about.

I’m sure JJ and Disney will help the SW “Big Three” get to wherever they have to be health-wise for their roles in SW7.

Real issue is: Harrison Ford is a big cheese, while the other two are active on the small screen and off, doing voice work and writing.

Peter Mayhew is still kickin’, so I would change my mind about seeing the film if Messrs Ford and Mayhew reprise their roles as the Dynamic Duo of the Millenium Falcon. It means more than the whole Luke & Leia thing to me in the end.

198. Son of Jello - March 30, 2013

195 Its a bit long…….. sorrry
When it comes to body image people are more concerned and will spend their money and energy trying to stop others from pointing out the obvious and becoming offended when told you are grosssly overweight and need to do something about it. And when it comes to vanity actors are one of the biggest culprits when it comes to body image.

And who is selling us that image moviestars/actors/celebritys. Buy this cream, eat off this grill, So and So,s new weightloss diet, and my secret to becoming as thin as a rake 4 weeks after going thru childbirth . We are being told this every day by people who spend their time preening themselvs and selling us products because we are inadiquate. Were not pretty enough,clear skinned enough or have the wronge tonal quality to our complection and unsightly bulges

Normal people dont sit around telling each other we are fat,ugly or we need to get or loose something and here is what you do about it. No we dont do that. We are to buissy regretting not paying our bills because we bought an abb machines that can be paid off in insalments by someone who has no money but is willing to spend what they have so they can have some misguided hope that they will end up looking like the celebrity who sold it to them.

So when they phisicaly turn to potatos we are going to be all over them for not living up to the standards that they sell to us. Mark may not sell things on TV (appart from merchendise in movies) but he is from the same world.And that world promotes beauty and perfection thats how it makes its money from us. Sure actors ugly themselvs up to do a dramatic role but underneath that we know they go to bed and wake up beautiful/handsome.

A lot of people wish going to bed was like that but thats what actors are for. If we were talking about some fat guy down the street I think a lot of what is being said about Mark would be an unfair thing to say. Because this fat guy lives in my world I can understand and relate to why this person is in the shape he is in. But I find it difficult sympathise or have empathy for a celebrity/moviestar/actor who has been relived of the burden of working 10 hr days all week all year every year until they have jacked up the retirement age until its post death plus expenses and live in their car because the econamy was sold out from under them

And I dont think most of the criticism of Mark has been unfair (yes he was singled out for it). If you have been guiven an opertunity for a better life dont just end up looking like a potatoe. We work hard for our money just to guive it to someone else to spend. So when we see people who have the better life and treat it like they are ordinary. Its kind of insulting to those of us who have no option than to hope a similar opertunity for fame and fortune and a better life may come our way. But we know it probubbly wont

199. Red Dead Ryan - March 31, 2013

#198.

Well said!!!

200. MJ - March 31, 2013

@195 “Plus, people’s physique changes sometimes because of heatlh problems. Did anyone of you high-and-mighty ones passing judgment think of that? Plus, where are pictures of all of you in bathing suits? Is this a board dominated by SI swimsuit and GQ models? Look in a mirror before you start to criticize.”

These remarks are just idiotic. We are not major actors who play roles in movies, nor are we actors trying to reprise roles that we previously starred in major movies in.

Nonsensical and idiotic — your comments do not make sense here at all.

201. MJ - March 31, 2013

Check out the post by this ” Bender Bending Rodriguez” person in @195, and then look at the post by “I’mPaul” in @116.

Basically the same post, eh?

202. Herb Finn - March 31, 2013

Sirtis actually found REAL work? Not just going to cons a couple of weekends a month?

Come on,who’s going to belive she is an Israli,and a former trained agent?

203. Disinvited - March 31, 2013

I’m not sure what Mark’s health problems are, if any, but of one thing I certain, any health problems he may have are not the result of him being a “struggling” actor:

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20071487,00.html

“By now Carrie and the rest of the swashbuckling young Star Wars trio—Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford—are paper millionaires. Though they signed for peanuts, the movie’s cosmic creator, George Lucas, 34, played Santa last Christmas and doled out one-quarter of a percentage point of the profits to each. That largesse is part of Lucas’ celestial master plan. Like Disney before him, he is spinning his fantasy into an industry.” PEOPLE, Lois Armstrong, August 14, 1978

204. Son of Jello - March 31, 2013

203 I liked this part of the article “the likelihood is that Luke Skywalker will ace out Han Solo for the affections of Princess Leia”. It reminded me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMMVrYly73k

Apparently Steven Speilberg gets 1% of the profits from star wars because of a bet he had with George Lucas.

205. Keachick - March 31, 2013

William Shatner did engage in a rigorous diet and workout programme in order to do TMP and it almost killed him. He may look good on the movie, but it did cause problems that only a less rigorous exercise and dieting programme could address. He was at his healthiest best, physically and mentally, in the Star Trek II, III and IV. He started gaining more weight as he hit 60 and the work he needs and does do is as much as ever.

As Mike Hosking asked him last Tuesday in Auckland, NZ, what is his secret to vitality etc? Shatner replied (paraphrasing) that they were on the third floor on a third storey building and when Shatner had the option of taking the lift (elevator) or stairs, he took the stairs. He said he will walk down as well – you use different leg muscles, he explained. He said that was among the many things he does to try to stay in shape and keep as fit as possible. I got the distinct impression that if the radio station had been on the tenth floor of a building, he would walk all the way up and down the stairs. Funny enough, many a security person and others who may be with him are more breathless than he is at times…

Bill Shatner may look like a rolypoly, but he is a pretty fit rolypoly.

How Chris Pine might look as he gets older – difficult to say. If he has his father’s genes, he may not gain much more weight at all as he gets older, however his hair may thin out and go grey/white faster than other guys…Continuing to smoke will age his skin more than anything else, but I guess he is figuring on there being good anti-ageing skin make up along with hair dyes and hair treatments. Just simply not smoking would probably not necessitate quite the same need for these applications, but then he may be afraid that if he stops smoking, his appetite may increase and he might start putting on weight and it is well known how people tend to feel about seeing any evidence of fat on our lovely actors/celebrities…hmmm

206. Son of Jello - March 31, 2013

205 So the whole cancer and lingering death from smoking is not an issue for him. I dont know about New Zeland but have you seen the cigaret packets in Australia (Canada to apparently) They have pictures on them of the 10 week smoking diet for losing weight. Im not to sure if you are being sarcastic or not about relying on creams to solve the issue. :)

207. Son of Jello - March 31, 2013

202 I know how stupid, Its quite clear to everyone she is half Betazoid but being half human maybe she will pull it off. And her Starfleet training should give her a good grounding in the basics for being an agent. Hopefully she wont have to wear a spandex uniform for 7 years in a row. She is a grown woman shorely she should be alowed to wear clothes by now

208. Disinvited - March 31, 2013

#202. Herb Finn – March 31, 2013

[SARCASM MODE:ON]

Yeah, that’s about as absurd as a Greek Jew.

[SARCASM MODE:OFF]

209. Keachick - March 31, 2013

#207 – What are you talking about? Fact – smoking nicotine can inhibit appetite. It is actually one of the reasons why some smokers are not so keen to give up the habit – because they fear they will put on weight, which does happen to some people. Giving up smoking does mean a lifestyle change and that can include making some dietary changes or accepting the fact that perhaps the (slightly) increased overall weight gain might be an OK weight to be (from a medical/health perspective).

I have to honestly wonder how common smoking is among many actors and models where being slim and svelte is a big issue…

210. Disinvited - March 31, 2013

#204. Son of Jello – March 31, 2013

I thought the FOX marketing vp was prescient: “Every time I make a deal, I have to ask myself, ‘Would this be right for Mickey Mouse?’ “

211. Son of Jello - March 31, 2013

209 Keachick

I was just thinking that given the conciquenses of smoking (cancer and an early death people left behind). That weight gain as an issue for quitting seemed a little unbalanced when it comes to making the decision. I dont know how many actors/models smoke but it would be a great idea for them not only to quit but use there celebrity to advertise that they have and the benifits of it. We are willing to buy what they sell so we can be like them and feel closer to them. So a campain with A list hollywood actors who have quit could maybe make an impact. They sell just about everything else to us why not that too.

212. Son of Jello - March 31, 2013

One thing is for sure Harrison Ford is going to take this oppertunity to get Han Solo killed. He wanted it in Empire and with his position in Hollywood and his importance to the franchise someone is going to die.

213. Check the Circuit - April 1, 2013

@186 Furry Testicalz

214. Check the Circuit - April 1, 2013

@ 186 Furry Testicalz

Now you’re trying to sound a little subtle. But you said earlier in this tread that Hamill is “fat” and needs a facelift…plus should have his wrinkles removed via CGI.

Pretty harsh and uncalled for. Are you an Adonis and not aging? Lucky you.

215. Harry Ballz - April 1, 2013

@214

Why, yes, I am lucky! Thank you for noticing!

216. Jovius the Romulan - April 1, 2013

168: Thank you for your response. My main grief is when people criticize the Shatners and Hamills being in their current physical shape when it isn’t required in the roles they are taking.

170: We are both adults here. You are capable of expressing yourself beyond using a rhetorical question and text speak. “LOL WTF?” made me a lot less capable of taking you seriously.

Please consider making a good argument for your difference of opinion in the future rather than resorting the childish games you have been. Until that happens, I am ignoring all of your comments directed at me. Thanks for understanding.

217. MJ - April 2, 2013

@216 “We are both adults here. You are capable of expressing yourself beyond using a rhetorical question and text speak.”

You just hit on the real issue here. That post I was responding to was so off base that I didn’t think an adult, or at least a rational adult, would have made that comment.

Sorry for not realizing that your were an adult who was attemptoing to make a rational comment.

218. Son of Jello - April 2, 2013

If you have star wars lego 9516 Jabbas palace its now a collectors item as it is no longer being produced. Im not going to tell you the reasons but its going to go up in price. I think the new owners of SW may be having to do some digital enhancing of the movies to placate some people.

219. Son of Jello - April 2, 2013

218 Well done jello you fell for an April fools joke and a day late too.

220. DiscoSpock - April 2, 2013

Jovius the Romulan,

I have to agree with MJ on this. Your comment that an actor’s appearance is superficial and not important has to be on of the most ridiculous entries that I have ever read on this site. No personal offense meant…just saying….

221. Red Dead Ryan - April 2, 2013

#220.

Yeah, Jovius the Romulan really needs to do his research as to how actors get cast in movies. One of the criteria happens to be physical appearance.

222. Jovius the Romulan - April 2, 2013

Pleas re-read what I said.

“My main grief is when people criticize the Shatners and Hamills being in their current physical shape when it isn’t required in the roles they are taking.”

Thanks for your time.

223. RTD - April 25, 2013

@#4 -

hey, it’s aging. It’ll happen to you as well. Don’t let the liberal media make you believe that everybody looks young and firm forever or else anyone who isn’t becomes worthless by default… (actually, most liberals aren’t so shallow – anyone who is isn’t a liberal…)

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