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Star Trek Into Darkness villain actor Benedict Cumberbatch has a lengthy interview in the May issue of SFX magazine. In excerpts below find out what he has to say about the villain John Harrison (comparing him to Eric Bana’s Nero) and also get an insight into what TV shows the actor was a fan of growing up (spoiler: shows with Hasselhoff).   

 

Cumberbatch: Harrison is a Homegrown Terrorist

The May issue of SFX magazine has a lot of stuff about Star Trek Into Darkness (see earlier article with quotes from Damon Lindelof and JJ Abrams), but the longest interview in the mag is with actor Benedict Cumberbatch. Here are a couple of excerpts… 

What kind of dynamic does John Harrison bring to Into Darkness?

Cumberbatch: I thought Eric Bana did a phenomenal job in the first film, he was brilliant as that Romulan, but this required something that was going to blow that incredible, beautifully cast and realised unit apart. So they really had to up the ante a little bit. He’s a homegrown terrorist, someone who has an inordinate amount of skill with close-hand combat and weaponry. But also as a psychological terrorist he’s someone who can plant an idea that’s as vicious as a bomb and explode loyalties and expose relationships and try and turn people against one another to do his bidding. He really disrupts the unity aboard the ship, both physically and mentally. He’s a worthy adversary


Benedict Cumberbatch interviewed in May issue of SFX magazine

The British actor was also asked about his own fandom, and he has some surprising interests…

How much of the geek gene do you possess?

Cumberbatch: Not very much. I’m not very geeky. I’m quite homespun. I would say I’m more modern rustic than gadget-orientated. I like woollen things and log fires and whiskey… I obviously have a latent fan fixation with Star Trek because of how thrilled I was when everyone got together in the first reboot. I never was obssessive about anything I watched when I was a kid, except maybe The A-Team and Airwolf… And I loved Knight Rider and then later Baywatch. I would always try and get near a TV to watch one of those. But I was never obssessed.
 


Benedict Cumberbatch and some of his favorite things (childhood and today)

More Star Trek Into Darkness in SFX

In additon to the two-page interview with Benedict Cumberbatch,the May issue of SFX magazine went on sale today and there is much more in the Star Trek Into Darkness cover story interview with JJ Abrams, Damon Lindelof, Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Zoe Saldana and Karl Urban – as well as Paramount’s Brian Miller on the new game.  There is also fun ‘Star Trek Prebooted’ feature with light-hearted speculation on what Trek would look like in the 1890s, the 1930s, the 1950s or the 1970s, illustrated by veteran Star Trek comic book artist Mike Collins.


May issue of SFX

You can buy buy the print version online or you can pick up a digital version Apple Newsstand, or Google Play.

 

Comments

1. Jack - April 5, 2013

God, I loved Airwolf’s theme song.

2. Sunfell - April 5, 2013

I really hope that the press junket for Star Trek Into Darkness puts Pine, Quinto, and Cumberbatch in the same interview group. Spocks, er, sparks- will fly! (in a good way)

3. Jax Maxton - April 5, 2013

“homegrown terrorist”

Sooo, not Khan, then? lol

4. Phil - April 6, 2013

Not sure I’d say that Bana did a phenomenal job, it’s probably polite to say he did the best with the material he had….

5. Ahmed - April 6, 2013

Nero was the most boring Trek villain, he add nothing to the movie.

6. TheRealBryanB - April 6, 2013

Ok, I may be pointing out the obvious here, but have you noticed “John Harrison” has yet to be seen or heard in any footage? I think that is a big clue he is not. I’m still keeping my chips on a Gary Mitchell. And let’s keep the discussion here–if any starts–spoiler-free (I haven’t read the latest rumor story on this site, and nor will I. I want to be as surprised as possible!)

7. Ahmed - April 6, 2013

@ 6. TheRealBryanB

IIRC Gary Mitchell rumor was denied by Bob on one of the threads here.

Speaking of keeping element of surprise, you might want to stay away from Trekmovie & the sci-fi news sites in general, as I’m planning to do, once the movie is out in Europe a week before North America.

8. ObsessiveStarTrekFan - April 6, 2013

If Harrison has more depth than Nero, that will be a plus. Nero wasn’t adequately explored in the movie, presumably due to time constraints. I’d have been happier if Abrams and co had released an extended DVD (like Jackson with the Lord of the Rings trilogy) to fill in some of the gaps, rather than just putting a few deleted scenes in the options.

9. TheRealBryanB - April 6, 2013

Oh–that’s right. And yes! absolutely!

10. AyanEva - April 6, 2013

I like his taste in Knight Rider. I remember watching it in re-runs in the 90s and I had a major crush on KITT. I mean Michael Knight was great to look at but his car was what I had drooled over. I still think KITT is pretty hot, as far as cars go. (I can’t be the only one who had a crush on KITT, right?)

I do like Nero but he’s not a particularly complex adversary. I’m looking forward to an antagonist with more layers. I also like how it sounds as though Harrison takes the fact that this Enterprise crew hasn’t completely gelled yet and will use that to his advantage to cause discord. I think it’ll create a really great story arc in terms of how these relationships develop and I’m interested to see what state they’re in by the end. I assume that by the end of the film they’ll more closely resemble the more familial relationships that we’re familiar with in TOS.

I can’t wait to see this film!

11. Jax Maxton - April 6, 2013

@8. obsessiveStarTrekFan

The Countdown comic explained a lot. In actuality, that comic would have made a better movie than the movie did. I really think they should have a two parter with the comic as the part 1 movie leading into the movie they made. Oh, we’ll. next reboot…

12. Red Dead Ryan - April 6, 2013

I just finished watching the BBC Earth documentary “South Pacific”. Benedict Cumberbatch was the narrator.

I’ve also seen him in “Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy”, and of course, “Sherlock”.

A tremendous actor with a great voice!

13. Curious Cadet - April 6, 2013

@3. Jax Maxton,
“homegrown terrorist” Sooo, not Khan, then?”

I believe Khan is the very definition of a “homegrown terrorist”.

14. Punkspocker - April 6, 2013

Wow, it’s almost May kids! At this point, I don’t care who he’s “really” playing. STID will unleash the CUMBERLORD!

15. Star Trekker - April 6, 2013

@ 13. Curious Cadet

Khan wasn’t a terrorist. Khan was a ruling dictator.

16. Riker's Beard - April 6, 2013

Who has the Airwolf theme in their head now?

17. Smike - April 6, 2013

@3:

“homegrown terrorist”

Sooo, not Khan, then? lol

Okay, now I really believe I know what’s up with this character. He is Khan and he isn’t. The guy called John Harrison is a clone of Khan, a genetically enhanced agent engineered by Section 31 as one of their top agents, homegrown by protomatter developed by Admiral Marcus and his talented daughter within a few months.
That project gets out of control when Harrison discovers his own roots and realizes he is destined for greatness due to his DNA… Then they shut down the program, “committing this terrble crime, John Harrison is not willing to forgive”…This is what turns him into a terrorist, relentlessly planing one attack on Starfleet after another, after another, after another…

18. 2vix - April 6, 2013

@17 not bad idea. starfleet finds botany bay – keeps the augments asleep – takes their dna – makes its own augments – shit goes bad – starfleet destroys augments – harrison pissed off – star trek into darkness

19. Trek Fan - April 6, 2013

@ 18. 2vix

I highly doubt that. The general public has no idea what an “augment” is.

20. 2vix - April 6, 2013

@19
tru dat

21. Broanley - April 6, 2013

@19

At one point, the term “augment” was explained to you. Thus, it could potentially be explained in the movie to the general public.

22. JRT! - April 6, 2013

I have the Knight Rider theme in my head now! LOL! LOVE KITT and have several toys of him,my latest being the 1/15th DST KITT,LOVE it! DST do good ST ships as well btw. lol!

Also loved Greatest American Hero,another great theme song,lol!

J-R!

23. captain_neill - April 6, 2013

Nero was simply the worst villain ever.

24. KirksLove - April 6, 2013

Cumberbatch is terrific. That’s what Abrams has to say about him in his latest interview

People have asked my why I choose Benedict for this and I would answer that by saying, ‘why not Benedict for everything?’ He is so crazy good. I loved working with him. He brings exactly the respect and intelligence and depth and also humour to every scene as I was hoping he would. When I saw his work in Sherlock, like so many others I was impressed by his seemingly effortless dexterity and his ability. It was almost like watching an Olympic gymnast go from incredible position to incredible position. He really is an exceptional talent and in addition to being the great actor he is, he was an absolute joy to spend some time with. He is someone who just elevated everything and while you don’t want the classic, clichéd British villain, which we’ve all seen a million times, my guess is that we’ve seen just as many American villains. I think Benedict is one of the best actors alive. So the real question is ‘why did he accept the movie?’ I think he is so good and seeing him in Sherlock just blew my mind and I had that feeling that he would be great for almost anything. And he exceeded all my expectations

25. ObsessiveStarTrekFan - April 6, 2013

@23. captain_neill

In my opinion, that honour goes to Shinzon,

26. Marja - April 6, 2013

#16, regrettably, I am stuck with the earworm “Knight Rider” theme

I did have a thing for KITT but that was because the voice was William Daniels, whose voice I’ve enjoyed since he played John Adams in “1776” and the supercilious surgeon Mark Craig in “St. Elsewhere” – his “Todaaaay, Ehrlich” is a common phrase in my household : )

Oh noes, I just spotted someone mentioning “Greatest American Hero” – another awful earworm … must … clear … hearing … palate ….!

#23, Captain, IMHO he and Khan were about neck and neck. Bana did do a great operatic villain and Montalban exceeded that performance, growling out his Melville quotes, but the characters they played seemed equally “operatically” motivated (melodramatic in the extreme). Nonetheless somewhat enjoyable, especially Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

What a great movie TWOK was to me. After the cinematic perfection of ST TMP with its rather thin (and plot-rehash) script, TWOK was a more TOS-type movie in its production values, scripting and acting. TMP was to me beautiful but somewhat soulless, with a few amusing moments and a few character moments, but overall, its fascination with special fx gave me the fidgets. At least it gave me Trek after a long drought : )

27. Aix - April 6, 2013

This may be stereotyping in my part because of his roles and the fact that he’s British. But he just sounds sophisticated as hell. Hahaha!

28. Aurore - April 6, 2013

“…. I’m not very geeky. I’m quite homespun. I would say I’m more modern rustic than gadget-orientated. I like woollen things and log fires…”
________

Oh god…
I love this man…*ahem*…in a platonic kind of way…of course….

“….And I loved Knight Rider and then later Baywatch.”

Mkay. Whatever. I love you.

:)

“…[Harrison] He’s a worthy adversary.”

So good to hear….

29. Daniel - April 6, 2013

Everybody love Knight Rider and K.I.T.T….;-)

30. Mooseday - April 6, 2013

Saturdays in the uk after final score in the 80s was a great run of us TV. A team, battlestar, buck Rogers, a team, knight rider, street hawk, automan, blue thunder, airwolf, manimal … The joys of action TV at the age of 10 :)

31. Aurore - April 6, 2013

“Everybody love Knight Rider and K.I.T.T….;-)”
_________

Of course.

“Everybody” but me.

However, I do love the man I was referring to in my post @ 27.

…Um…I love him….In a…. platonic… yes! (that is the word I was looking for)…a platonic kind of way…I cannot stress that point enough….

:)

32. Ctrl-Opt-Del - April 6, 2013

Personally, I’m thinking Harrison’s a cyborg created by Section 31 using Borg technology salvaged from the Narada’s drill that fell into San Francisco Bay…

But I’m probably over-thinking things… ;-)

33. Niall Johnson - April 6, 2013

With you on the Holy Water!

34. Craiger - April 6, 2013

Knight Rider, Airwolf and The A-Team were my favorite 80’s shows. Also The Greatist American Hero.

35. Emperor Mike of the Alternate Empire - April 6, 2013

Ok. Knight Rider and Airwolf and the A Team are also my Faves. I knew i liked this Guy. I could just see Cumberbatch as String Fellow Hawke. Piloting Airwolf

36. Emperor Mike of the Alternate Empire - April 6, 2013

#16. Yes. I also Love the Air Wolf Theme. Ok. Bob Orci. Reboot Air Wolf and get Cumberbatch as String Fellow Hawke.

37. Nony - April 6, 2013

I like woollen things and log fires and whiskey and I’m a geek. I always find it hilarious when people assume it has to be one or the other. Like everyone knows if you are a geek, your house must be fully automated and look like the Apple Store, and you must eat nothing but freeze-dried astronaut ice cream and never wear natural fibres.

38. Classy M - April 6, 2013

I miss living in London, but never more than now. Check out the art gracing the tube stations: https://twitter.com/cumberbatchweb/status/320511828981608448/photo/1

39. CanandianShane - April 6, 2013

Check out what #17 is saying, think he’s got it, or a variation on that type of Khan theme, like the Bourne movies…

40. Thorny - April 6, 2013

Maybe its just me, but I don’t agree with BC that Eric Bana was ‘brilliant’ in ST2009. He was great in other movies, especially “Munich” but he looked bored in ST2009.

41. Thorny - April 6, 2013

33… I never cared much for Airwolf or The A Team. My favorite ’80s shows were Hill Street Blues, St. Elsewhere, Magnum PI, Remington Steele, China Beach, and of course Star Trek: The Next Generation. Greatest American Hero was great for the first year or so, then got old.

42. Trek in a Cafe - April 6, 2013

Lets really think back to what this is based on: Heart of Darkness/ Apocolypse Now… Maybe all that happened is that Harrison went Native (like in Avatar) and hates the Federation for doing nasty things… And thinks he’s smarter better etc, but lets say he also hates the Klingons and this film is standalone but a set up for a war with the Klingons on ST 3 ….

43. Thorny - April 6, 2013

42… Wouldn’t the Organians put an end to a Federation/Klingon War just like they did in the Prime Universe?

44. Aurore - April 6, 2013

@ Mr. Orci,

One of the year’s “most-anticipated” films had better not disappoint…me.

I’m watching you.

45. The Original Spock's Brain - April 6, 2013

@ Star Trekker “Khan wasn’t a terrorist. Khan was a ruling dictator.”

So you know Khan’s complete backstory? Please tell it to us.

Many leaders in history have come to power through insurrection. Don’t you think the British thought of the American revolutionaries as terrorists? Or that the British thought the same thing of the Zionist resistance in Israel?

If he is Khan, it appears that he was reawaken at least 8 years earlier than in the original timeline. We’ll discover what his current motives are.

I can modify your statement: “”Khan wasn’t a terrorist. Khan was an engineer.”

Neither tells the complete story.

46. Dennis C - April 6, 2013

All speculation will end when the movie is released — before it hits the U.S. Then we’ll all debate how great the movie was or if it sucked (“Are the EVEN numbered films now the bad ones?”).

We shall see.

47. Star Trekker - April 6, 2013

@ 45
The Original Spock’s Brain

I tend to agree with that statement as well, I don’t think Khan was a terrorist.

Well we do know this because that was what was mentioned in Space Seed.
“Khan was absolute ruler of more than one-quarter of Earth’s population, including regions of Asia and the Middle East. Considered “the best of tyrants”, he severely curtailed the freedoms of his subjects, but his reign was an exception to similar circumstances in Earth history – lacking massacres or internal war.”

But I don’t think he was an engineer. ;)

48. BH - April 6, 2013

“He’s a homegrown terrorist, someone who has an inordinate amount of skill with close-hand combat and weaponry. But also as a psychological terrorist he’s someone who can plant an idea that’s as vicious as a bomb and explode loyalties and expose relationships and try and turn people against one another to do his bidding.”

Garth.

And whoever noted above, a GREAT point: there have been only 2 or 3 lines we’ve seen delivered onscreen by BC. Every other piece of dialogue is dissociated from where it was shot. It can be anyone, but I’m focusing on his IDENTICAL COLOR WARDROBE and all of the “explosives experts” and “detonates the fleet” stuff and sticking with my main man of Izar.

49. Marja - April 6, 2013

#48 BH … and imagine the possibilities of Garth’s shape-changing ability, holy moley!

#32, Section 31 would have to work mighty fast … unless they went back in time with the technology and assimilated Harrison and we get another convoluted time-travel story. Blehh, I hope not.

50. BH - April 6, 2013

I think the “super jump” we have all seen him pull is achieved through selective transformation: grasshopper legs or something.

I believe there was a quote Quinto made about being evil at one point in this film which might have been my misread or slip of his tongue.

Garth is most certainly on the short list of TOS dynamic villains that could go over the top perfectly.

Remember, no one knew who Khan was before ST2. The first season had a half dozen more memorable shows than Space Seed, at the very least. It’s easy to forget what people thought of Khan – if they knew him at all – in 1981.

51. Janie - April 6, 2013

Garth or Robert April are my picks. Could go either way. The thing with the “Khan” theory is that back in 2009, when Abrams was discussing the three-movie arc, he said he wasn’t sure he would touch Khan, and if he did, it would have to be the last (third) movie. I know things change, but I can see why it’d make sense to have Khan last.

@Sunfell – Cumberbatch is filming right now and probably won’t be doing much press until May. Quinto was just talking about him, Pine, Pegg and Cumberbatch partying, so it seems like he fit in really well.

I wouldn’t say Eric Bana was great in the first one, either, but I think Cumberbatch is trying to be respectful and head off negativity toward Bana. If Abrams is correct, Cumberbatch’s villain is far superior to Bana’s and the critics will probably pound Bana into the ground after the movie comes out.

52. captain spock - April 6, 2013

Ben cumberpatch & Eric Bana Acted in a movie together in 2008 called the Boleyn girl

Eric Bana played the bad guy in star trek 11 movie now Ben Cumberpatch playing the bad guy In star trek 12 what are the odds in this happing .

wow that bring back memorys of watching those TV show in the 1980s watch babe watch,the A-team,airwolf ,knight rider.. some of those show are still can be seen in reruns

53. Steve Johnson - April 6, 2013

Cumberbatch is a classy dude. I’m glad he came… Into Darkness.

54. Trolane - April 6, 2013

Seriously why is everyone fixated on him being Khan. How would that even work, and why would anyone think the writers would stoop so low. Come on people. Just go watch “the wrath of khan”.

55. The Orginal Spock's Brain - April 6, 2013

@54 Trolane.

Anthony Pascale said it is Khan. He’s given me no reason not to trust his sources.

56. Johnny - April 6, 2013

@54 Trolane

“Why would anyone think the writers would stoop so low?”

Uh… because this is a REBOOT of the Original Series! That’s why. If Paramount wanted “new” Star Trek storylines, they would have made a Star Trek film or TV show with NEW characters. No, they chose to go the comic-book route, and shoot a movie based on the original characters. Why would they go with a new villain when there are so many excellent ones floating around in space at this point in the timeline?

These movies are REBOOTS! Get that through your heads, people. With that in mind, ANY villain and any character from the Original Series should be on the table.

It’s no different than Christopher Nolan reusing The Joker as a villain in The Dark Knight. I don’t see anyone complaining about Heath Ledger’s performance, or that it was a “rehash” in any way of Tim Burton and Jack Nicholson’s 1989 Batman.

Isn’t it quite obvious from the trailers that *if* John Harrison is Khan, then they’re taking him in a completely different direction? Nothing in the trailers looks like a retelling of “Space Seed” or “Wrath of Khan”… but if Harrison *does* turn out to be Khan, I won’t have a problem with it. Isn’t Khan, or any other original series villain better than a new, generic sci-fi baddie?

Bana did a fine job in ST09 (he was unrecognizable)… but his character was really only a plot device. The main plot of the film had to focus on bringing the crew together for the first time, leaving no time to explore any sort of interesting villain. That’s what the second film is for.

57. Thorny - April 6, 2013

52. Better than you think. David Warner (Gorkon, Star Trek VI) and Malcolm McDowell (Soran, Star Trek: Generations) starred together in 1979’s “Time After Time”. Tom Hardy (Shinzon, Star Trek: Nemesis) and Eric Bana (Nero, Star Trek 2009) starred together in “Black Hawk Down”.

58. Johnny - April 6, 2013

@55 The Original Spock’s Brain

” Anthony Pascale said it is Khan. He’s given me no reason not to trust his sources.”

——

Except every time a conflicting report comes out, he attempts to backtrack.

59. Johnny - April 6, 2013

Whoops… sorry #59 is a double post. Feel free to delete!!!

60. TrinainUS - April 6, 2013

Whoever Cumberbatch’s character turns out to be, I think there’s no doubt that we’re in for quite a ride. He’s always made great choices in his roles and the productions he’s been in. Add that to this incarnation of Trek and we should be seeing a movie that’ll make us pretty darn happy. Some more so than others, of course…

61. Star Trekker - April 6, 2013

58. Johnny

Agree completely. As soon as a conflicting report comes out, there seems to be another article her on how it is Khan. LoL. Still a rumor though, but a great way to get word of mouth and debate going. Marketing that money can’t buy! Smart idea.

But there is nothing that I have seen or read about the movie that even points to a “khan” in the movie. So I am pretty sure it’s all a smoke screen to create buzz.

62. The Original Spock's Brain - April 6, 2013

@ 47. Star Trekker

“But I don’t think he was an engineer. ;)”

So you doubt Khan when he says to Kirk, “I was once an engineer” and asks to study the Enterprise’s tech manuals?

63. The Original Spock's Brain - April 6, 2013

“Jim Mees, ‘Star Trek’ Series Set Decorator, Dies at 57″

http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/jim-mees-stak-trek-series-set-decorator-dies-at-57-1200333333/

64. Star Trekker - April 6, 2013

@ 62.
The Original Spock’s Brain

Yes, I doubt it. I think he was just trying to get to see the tech manuals so that he can take over the Enterprise.

65. TrekMadeMeFat - April 6, 2013

I find myself hoping Cumberkhan survives for a sequel.

66. James Heaney - Wowbagger - April 7, 2013

Little note: This “Harrison” business in the first paragraph (which appears on the TrekMovie.com homepage without clicking on the article) appears to be a spoiler without a spoiler warning. Those of us trying to remain spoiler free (and who do not want to know who the villain is!) would appreciate that little factoid being moved or hidden.

Thanks!

67. dutch - April 7, 2013

Airwolf should be seriously considered for a reboot.

68. Jack - April 7, 2013

Interesting piece wondering if Harrison will be another riff on Ledger’s Joker, similar to many recent movie villains…

http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2013/03/the-joker-effect-why-movie-villains-are.html?m=1

69. Jack - April 7, 2013

“John Harrison (a.k.a. probably Khan): You think your world is safe? It is an illusion. A comforting lie told to protect you.

Once again we have a villain with an aggressive anti-establishment attitude who likes to discuss the ‘lie’ of society. The same lie the Joker believed civilization bought into that kept them from turning on one another and “eating each other”. The same lie Silva bought into when he became an agent, believing that civilization is good and worth serving. The Dark Knight and the Joker was not the first movie to use these basic tenants of storytelling, but it popularized it to a ridiculous degree. So much so that major movie villains since all seem to be delivering variations of the same basic principle. While it’s easy to understand why these techniques are used, it does make me pine for a movie where the villain isn’t inexplicably tied to the hero due to a shared history…”

Interesting stuff…

70. Jack - April 7, 2013

I’m hoping he’s not Roy Batty. Or Shinzon. Or any of Khan’s supermen, including Khan. The trailer points to genetic stuff (“better at what?” “Everything”) — but I’m still hoping against it. Because, yawn.

If we hear the name Soong or the word augment, I’ll walk ou…, I’ll… well realistically I won’t do anything, but I’ll be sad for a second or two…

71. Anthony Pascale - April 7, 2013

Due to all the mainstream and other coverage, earlier this year we stopped considering the name ‘John Harrison’ a spoiler. Anything to do with the character is still a spoiler

72. Jack - April 7, 2013

66. Hey, James. The oft-published, official name of the character is a spoiler? I admit I was annoyed when we learned in a comment who Weller is playing, as it had been a secret up to that point (or at least hadn’t been mentioned).

It’s actually an interesting discussion — what’s a spoiler?

The names of Cumberbatch’s and Alice Eve’s characters weren’t revealed until Dec. 2012. So are they still spoilers? Is Weller’s name a spoiler? Are plot developments from the first 20+ minutes of the movie spoilers (I think they are).

And once these things are out, publicly, are they still spoilers?

Or if they’ve haven’t been widely reported but have been officially confirmed, are they spoilers?

And are rumours (like the incessant ____ stuff, reported here months ago) spoilers?

TDKR and Skyfall did a decent job of keeping things secret — sort of. Although the ________ of Bond was revealed in the trailer — except it happened in the first few minutes of the movie.

I was a little pissed at a Brazilian Trek site for going into detail of the footage shown to the press, because it cemented a bunch of stuff the trailer was just hinting at. Once it did, the stuff appeared here without real warning. And it’s true, once it’s out, it’s out — that stuff appeared (posted by presumably well-meaning readers during one of this site’s down stretches) in the middle of non-movie threads here and on other Trek sites before it was actually reported on those sites.

This bugged me as a reporter, because I’d assumed there had been an embargo on this stuff. Maybe there wasn’t. Of course, the stuff revealed wasn’t particularly revealing. It’s not like we got the secret to The Crying Game or The Cabin in the Woods.

And it bugged me as a reader because, heck — should comments for a story on the Oscars (or warp drive or whatever) be the place to reveal spoiler news about the movie? At the time, this site had been abandoned and people were trying to generate their own news and discussion. Does the word “spoiler alert” at the start of a sentence make it okay to reveal this stuff? Food for thought.

But back to that Trek site — other, er, legitimate news sites reported on that 30-minutes without actually revealing anything. They teased but didn’t spell out specific scenes. Which is how it should be done. Film reviewers see the things in advance (sometimes quite a bit in advance) and sit on secrets, usually.

Should fan blogs get access to these sorts of press events if they’re going to spill the beans? Does the production actually want them to spill the beans and uses Trek blogs at a way of getting leaks and free publicity out there. Or did they assume it was 1990 and stuff in Brazil wouldn’t instantly be news everywhere else? And these days, once something is reported anywhere — it becomes fodder for legitimate news sites. So a blog like this gets quoted everywhere.

The production and these sites get defensive when we start complaining about spoilers.

The argument that gets made is — if you don’t want spoilers, stay off of Trek, genre, movie and entertainment sites until the thing is in theatres. On spoiler threads, I’ve even talked about stuff that had already been confirmed here — but not everybody reads all this stuff and this could be a spoiler to somebody.

I think part of the test is — would a site like EW, Empire, A.V. Club or The Times report on these spoilers and rumors?

73. AB - April 7, 2013

Looks like the villain’s name was finally updated on IMDB from just Khan (rumored) to John Harrison / Khan (rumored). Did that happen very recently? It seemed like it was going to just stay Khan (rumored) right up until the film came out.

74. richpit - April 7, 2013

“23. captain_neill – April 6, 2013
Nero was simply the worst villain ever.”

Really? Do you remember Sybok?

75. filmboy - April 8, 2013

I think anytime you reveal something about a film prior to the release it could be considered a spoiler, even in the case that it is widely reported by the media.

With that said, I have to applaud JJ and company for keeping a large portion of this film’s plot a secret. I never would have thought we would be a month out from release and still not have any concrete idea what the overall plot of this movie would be.

I am on the fence as to whether I want to read anymore on sites like this or go spoiler free, or as much as possible, come May. Tough decision.

76. TrekMadeMeWonder - April 9, 2013

65. TrekMadeMeFat – April 6, 2013

I find myself hoping Cumberkhan survives for a sequel.

Yeah. Just like NERO!

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