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TNG Season 5 Blu-ray set and single-disc version of Unification [UPDATED] September 9, 2013

by Matt Wright , Filed under: DVD/Blu-ray,TNG Remastered , trackback

While we expected Star Trek: The Next Generation Season 5 to be the next up on the Blu-ray slate, we weren’t sure if CBS would do a single-disc release this time, since the Season 5/6 cliffhanger of “Time’s Arrow” is hardly a fan favorite. The most logical choice, that many had been speculating, is the two-part 25th anniversary celebration, “Unification”, featuring the return of original Trek legend Leonard Nimoy and his character Spock. We don’t have full details yet, but there is new partial information about both releases. Both are expected to be available on November 19th for the US and Canada.

UPDATE Sept. 9 – CBS has posted a video trailer for Unification

Unification

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Unification includes a new documentary exclusive to the single-disc release called “From One Generation To the Next”, plus a new audio commentary.

UPDATE: New preview trailer has been released!

 

TNG Season 5

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The Fifth Season Blu-ray features all 26 episodes in high-definition and a multiple-part documentary, “REQUIEM: A Remembrance of Star Trek: The Next Generation,” which examines the evolution of season five and the impact of Trek creator Gene Roddenberry’s death on the production.

— Source: StarTrek.com

Comments

1. CAPT KRUNCH - August 21, 2013

1st wow!…Awesome Spock Prime in dazzling HD Bluray!

2. TrekMadeMeWonder - August 21, 2013

Seriously. That guy will mind meld with anybody.

3. Jim - August 21, 2013

Check out Apple Trailers!

4. Jakob - August 21, 2013

Seriously, I don’t get what is wrong with “Time’s Arrow”. It was one of my favourite two-parters back when I saw TNG on TV. Its aliens were quite creepy and very well realized, and it had a time travel story that actually made sense with regards to its internal logic. The one weak link was the whole notion that the aliens were going through all the trouble to go back into earths past just to suck some life-juice, but that was much still less far-fetched than the contrivances of the time travel elements of ST:FC.

5. MJ (The Original). - August 21, 2013

Leave it to Rick Berman to find a way to make Spock boring. No thanks.

6. Who cares - August 21, 2013

Time’s Arrow is a great two-parter, better than Unification by a long ways, and I love both of them.

7. Jimbo West - August 21, 2013

Time’s Arrow ? Good first part, but a really weak second one as far as I remember.

8. Trekboi - August 21, 2013

Unification was a bit quiet, like a lot of next gen but I loved it.
Pity it wasn’t as colorful as the Bluray cover.
Why is post Undiscovered Country Spock Prime always hanging out in caves or in the shadows anyway?

9. Who cares - August 21, 2013

@7 I disagree Jimbo, the whole sequence of Mark Twain on the E-D was incredible, the actor playing Twain was fantastic, and for once somebody did some research about Twain and his political/ideological views, which all by itself puts it above a lot of other stuff out there.

As an example, several years ago Richard Pryor was given the Mark Twain award for comedy, the person presenting the award (I don’t remember his name) decided to make a “joke” about Twain meeting Pryor, which might have been funny, if the Twain part had been even remotely similar to the real man, which it wasn’t, consisting largely of a string of N-words, which Twain himself would not have used as he was an incredibly outspoken ABOLITIONIST.

Most of the time in fiction I have found that writers follow the example of the “comedian” who could be bothered to do 5 minutes of research, and almost never the TNG example of using real facts in a relevant way.

Just for that all by itself Time’s Arrow deserves kudos, never mind the great Temporal Causality Loop story, any time travel btw is one of my favorite sub-genres of sci-fi (after parallel universes), so despite Nimoy and Mark Leonard Unification never had a chance at beating Time’s Arrow for me.

10. Emperor Mike of the Alternate Empire - August 21, 2013

I loved both. Unification was a great Ep. Times Arrow was also great. I hope both get the Movie Makeover.

11. crazydaystrom - August 21, 2013

I like that Unification cover, a lot!

12. PEB - August 21, 2013

The real star for me in the 1st half of Unification -no offense Leonard- was actually Mark Leonard as Sarek. Loved his final performance in such an incredible franchise role. It’s a great episode but I dont know if it’s great enough to cause me to buy the bluray.

13. K-7 - August 21, 2013

@5 “Leave it to Rick Berman to find a way to make Spock boring.”

Yep,

Except for the Leonard role in Part 1 — I agree with PEB (@12) on that.

But yea, the use of Nimoy and the story were completely uninspired. This episode could have been so much better.

Berman killed off Kirk, and he killed of Sarek. And if he had been given a chance, he would have killed off Spock too.

14. Red Dead Ryan - August 21, 2013

“Relics” was a better episode. Scotty helped save the Enterprise-D, became friends with Geordi LaForge, and was given a shuttlecraft at the end. A very nice send-off.

Admiral McCoy’s cameo in “Encounter At Farpoint” was well done. Short and sweet, the best part of the episode, and a great performance by DeForrest Kelley.

15. NX01 - August 21, 2013

What the heck no Time’s Arrow!

16. I'm Dead Jim! - August 21, 2013

I liked Unification but Nimoy’s acting was at times uninspired and cardboard, like he just phoned it in. It was great to see him, though!

Loved Relics too until the end. They may as well have shoved Scotty out an airlock the way they hurried him into the shuttlecraft before the episode ended.

17. MJ (The Original). - August 21, 2013

“I liked Unification but Nimoy’s acting was at times uninspired and cardboard, like he just phoned it in.”

I would bet that he was not happy with what Berman was doing with Star Trek, and not very excited about a lame story. So this probably influenced his performance.

I mean, come on, you’ve got both Mark Leonard and Nimoy in the same episodes, but you don’t get them together — even when Sarek dies. That still bothers me today. What an f’ing waste of a great opportunity.

I could have easily written a much better episode that this myself, and I am not even a writer.

18. Russell Meyers - August 21, 2013

I have read that Unification was actually Piller’s albatross and was very disappointed in his own episode. Not a Berman fan but this was a rare misdtep for Piller

19. Vultan - August 21, 2013

#16

The best part of that ending is the awkward glance Scotty and Worf give each other.

#17

Not being a writer doesn’t disqualify you from being a screenwriter today. Go for it!

20. Brevard - August 21, 2013

I, personally, love Time’s Arrow. Had no idea it was not a fan favorite. I like Unification, as well. Why are people bashing Nimoy’s acting in it? Calling it “uninspired” and “cardboard” is really mean. And, no, Nimoy did not “phone it in” because Berman was “destroying Trek.” The whole episode was Nimoy’s idea. They contacted him and asked him if he’d like to do an episode and he came up with the story. So, I don’t think he disliked TNG or its direction. Give the man a break. He’s a classic.

21. Lenny - August 21, 2013

Mark Lenard.

I have nothing else to say, just felt like he dserved to have his name spelt correctly at least once on this page. :)

22. MJ (The Original). - August 21, 2013

@21 Are you him?

23. Sebastian S. - August 21, 2013

I’m very much looking forward to the single bluray of Unification (I very much enjoyed “Best of Both Worlds”, too).

Sarek’s moving final scene with Picard was a series’ high point; as was Picard’s final mind meld with Spock. I also enjoy Data and Picard going undercover on Romulus (as well as their shenanigans aboard the Klingon ship). Terrific character bits for both.

Frankly, I’m looking more forward to this release than Star Trek Into Darkness. Can’t wait!

24. MJ (The Original). - August 21, 2013

@23.

I told you so, regarding Khan. How would you like your crow served?

25. Luke Forrester - August 21, 2013

Oh cool, more special features to dick over the people who buy the full season on the Unification set.

26. Red Dead Ryan - August 21, 2013

#21.

Hey Lenny!

Your pals Homer and Carl are waiting for you over at Moe’s! Only a few hours til closing time!

Better hurry!

:-)

27. P'trick - August 21, 2013

If I recall, Nimoy’s appearance in Unification was merely to create hype for STAR TREK 6-The Undiscovered Country for which Leonard was credited (and handsomely paid) as Executor Producer and Story Co-Creator.

No, the story certainly wasn’t as expansive as it could have been. The series’ weekly-budget likely couldn’t afford Nimoy for both episodes. Consequently, the story seemed limited to reused vulcan-sets, narrow back-streets, caves and the like. Not the GRAND story one would expect when Spock finally returned to TREK on tv. However, possibly the best that Berman and the writers could come up with given the many restraints.

Nonetheless, I’ve never failed to enjoy this 2-parter. Once again, Mark Leonard’s dynamic portrayal of Sarek helps a lot.

28. BatlethInTheGroin - August 21, 2013

Anyone know if they’ll be including that MTV special with Marina Sirtis that run during season 5? It was in-universe, making it a TNG episode of sorts.

29. I am to Smurfy - August 22, 2013

Never had any doubt that Unification would be getting the feature length edit treatment!
Can’t wait

30. I am to Smurfy - August 22, 2013

And I agree it was a great send off for Mark Lenard

31. I am to Smurfy - August 22, 2013

17 MJ
” I would bet that he was not happy with what Berman was doing with Star Trek, and not very excited about a lame story. ”

Its funny MJ complains about Rick Berman in the same exact manner he chastises people who complain about JJ Abrams

We get it dude you don’t like Rick Berman, no need to keep bringing it up over and over in TNG threads

32. MJ (The Original). - August 22, 2013

@29 @30 @31

We get it dude — you need to spread your single post across three different separate posts here because you have small weiner syndrome, and thus crave public attention to compensate for your malady.

33. Basement Blogger - August 22, 2013

@ 10

Emperor Mike,

Great to hear from you. I liked Unification and Time’s Arrow like you did. Clever thing with Data’s head in Time’s Arrorw. Season Six will produce the gems. Relics. The Chase.. Tapestry.

34. Gorn Captain - August 22, 2013

Will they resist the temptation to digitally erase this blooper? ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjpCkq22WYg

35. ironhyde - August 22, 2013

Whoever came up with the idea, or was credited for what, whatever the case, even if it was somebody’s pet — I enjoyed Unification. We should be so lucky to get a 50th anniversary piece of that thoughtfulness and quality.

36. I'm Dead Jim! - August 22, 2013

@17 MJ

“I mean, come on, you’ve got both Mark Leonard and Nimoy in the same episodes, but you don’t get them together — even when Sarek dies. That still bothers me today. What an f’ing waste of a great opportunity.”

I agree. Such a great opportunity was squandered. (sigh) Maybe in an alternate reality it was better. No… wait!

37. DJ Neelix - August 22, 2013

Time’s Arrow will be the next release, as they are planning to release all of the two-parters. It will be followed by Chain of Command, Birthright, Descent, Gambit and All Good Things…

38. T'Cal - August 22, 2013

Pretty much all of the two parters were worth it for me with the possible exception of the Lore/Borg one whose name escapes me. That one petered out at the end. But I loved Unification, Gambit, Time’s Arrow, Redemption, BOBW, AGT, etc. I wouldn’t mind if they put episodes together that were related like the two with Moriarty for example.

39. T'Cal - August 22, 2013

Descent! that’s it! And how did I forget Chain of Command? Jellico was right all along!

40. Emperor Mike of the Alternate Empire - August 22, 2013

Hey Blogger. I know I usually don’t come in here to the main threads as much. But I love Tng and after the disapointment of Into Darkness I am glad Tng is getting first class treatment. Like Tos. Any bad Trek Ep is a good one. I loved Unification and Times Arrow. Most of the 2 parters were really good. Chain of command was a good one and Gambit was one of my faves as well.

Now. If they would just do Star Trek TMP The directors edition into Blu-rey.

41. Emperor Mike of the Alternate Empire - August 22, 2013

My top 5 Fave Eps of TNG.

1. Best of Both World’s 1 and 2.
2. Yesterdays Enterprise.
3. Cause and Effect.
4. Relics.
5. Sarek.

42. jed - August 22, 2013

What’s great about unification is that it actually works as a prelude to JJ’s 09 Star Trek movie! who could have predicted that in 1991!!!

Not a very exciting episode though, Spock and Picard are essentially very restrained characters so you get no sparks off their interaction, had it been Riker and Spock it may have worked better. I read in Stalog in mid 1992 that Nimoy was expecting to follow up the story at a later stage, presumably another TNG episode, but it never happened. But Nimoy wanted to introduce the story element of Spock on Romulas in Generations but Berman did not want to make the necessary changes.

43. NCC-73515 - August 22, 2013

Twain was so great! Hmhm haha WOO! ha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxCW9xmamzQ

44. Pastor Neil - August 22, 2013

both Episodes deserve, blu ray treatment. I was thinking , All Good Things, as well.

Maybe someday they will release a pack called “Captains Beginnings ” Where it has the Pilot episodes from all 5 series…
just an idea, what do you all think?

45. Robman007 - August 22, 2013

They really dropped the ball on the Unification episode. You almost get the idea that the producers of TNG did not know how to handle the TOS characters, with the exception of the Scotty episode. They dropped the ball on both Kirk and Spock..

TNG really dropped the ball when it came to the episode “Yesterday’s Enterprise”….amazing episode, but that should have been done with the Enterprise-A and Kirk and crew, and saved for a film. Instead of changing the time line, the Enterprise simply disappeared sometime before it was decomissioned

46. conscienceoftheking - August 22, 2013

I’ve always like Unification, though it isn’t perfect.

I think it is dramatically appropriate that Sarek and Spock are still distant from one another (hence he’s not there when Sarek dies)- even Vulcans aren’t perfect. Of course, Mark Leonard is great in the role, and his death is tragic and sad.

As for Nimoy, I think his acting is deliberate. He is playing a much older Spock. Watching Spock’s arc throughout, he is cold and tries to be unemotional- but as time goes on he accepts his emotions and his “place”, as he says (watch ST: TMP and then ST: TWOK and TUC- you’ll see). Here, his Spock is older, but still restless, almost.

What I dislike is the ultimate Romulan scheme- really, a few hundred commandos would take over Vulcan? That’s the best idea they’ve got? Nonsense!

47. Ensign Ricky - August 22, 2013

Who cares about this…..all I want to know is if Nimoy is gonna be in the next Star Trek movie.

48. Check the Circuit - August 22, 2013

@ MJ

You’re not a writer? That’s shocking. You post here more than anyone so you’re obviously prolific. You…and only you…deduced the villain of STID so you’re obviously clever. You can figure out how two characters in different parts of the galaxy can logically interact so you’re obviously creative. You can string together snappy prose like “small weiner syndrome.” You know when someone is craving attention so clearly you have keen insight into human psychology. And no one uses folksy colloquialisms…such as “dude”…with such precision as you.

Don’t sell yourself short MJ. You’re not just a writer. You are a GREAT writer. I’m looking forward to the time when your first Emmy-caliber script is produced.

49. MJ (The Original). - August 22, 2013

@48. Thanks man! I appreciate the great support and confidence!

50. Danpaine - August 22, 2013

45. Robman007 – August 22, 2013
TNG really dropped the ball when it came to the episode “Yesterday’s Enterprise”….amazing episode, but that should have been done with the Enterprise-A and Kirk and crew, and saved for a film. Instead of changing the time line, the Enterprise simply disappeared sometime before it was decommissioned.

—————————————————-

I’ve said the same in previous posts. Apparently that idea was kicked around at one point, but we got Generations instead. What a missed opportunity, never to come again.

Dropped the ball? You got that right.

51. Garak's Pride - August 22, 2013

Re: Check the Circuit.

Well said!

Based on the poor quality of many Star Trek screenplays over the years, I agree with you. MJ, based on what we see here with this writing, could certainly do better than many of the writers have done over the years; especially the Berman years.

52. Trekboi - August 22, 2013

37. DJ Neelix

Who said they would release them all?
They couls do a box set like the old DVD TV Movies box set but single releases?

53. Time's Arrow Fan - August 22, 2013

What is the point of this release you get the entire thing when you buy season 5.

54. Matt Wright - August 22, 2013

37 is just wishful thinking. No one expected them to do any more after “Redemption”, since the season cliffhangers after it are not widely considered to be fan favorites (and thus wouldn’t be big sellers), and the other in-season two-parters would already of course be in the same season set (i.e. Unification, Chain of Command, etc.).
I assume this is the last single-disc release we’ll see. Unification of course makes sense given it’s big 25th anniversary ties and the appearance of an older Spock.

55. Red Shirt Diaries - August 22, 2013

#48 – Check the Circuit. Agreed. Many of us could improve on TNG writing, for sure, and he had demonstrated the points that you cover here. He’d be great at writing scenes for a McCoy or a Data.

56. NoMad - August 22, 2013

Unification makes sense as the next single-disc release, since it continues the Sela story from Redemption.

I think they’ll still do Time’s Arrow, maybe in January. My guess is they either couldn’t finish re-mastering part 2 (which is season 6) or do a documentary by the end of the year.

57. MJ (The Original). - August 22, 2013

@48 @51 @55

Everyone, wow! Thanks for the vote of confidence!

I may go back and rework my very rough draft of a Star Trek story that I had started several years back. Maybe I could take a shot at turning it into a novel.

58. MJ (The Original). - August 22, 2013

@45 “They really dropped the ball on the Unification episode. You almost get the idea that the producers of TNG did not know how to handle the TOS characters, with the exception of the Scotty episode. They dropped the ball on both Kirk and Spock.”

Yep!

59. Check the Circuit - August 22, 2013

@57

Yeah…and post it here. If you’re willing to subject yourself to the “constructive criticism” of the fans on this site.

Better have some thick skin or a suit of armor.

60. Basement Blogger - August 22, 2013

@ 40

Emperor Mike,

I liked STID better than the 2009 movie. I agree with Gambit. It was a good two part episode in season seven. That season was kind of disappointing for me. But it did wrap up nicely with “All Good Things…” Q had some of the best lines especially at the end. I hope you and the wife are well.

“See you out there….”

61. Sebastian S. - August 22, 2013

# 24 MJ

Whoop de doo. You were right.
Star Trek Into Darkness was the biggest disappointment of the summer with a terrible script and more plot holes than a piercing parlor, but what the hell. You were right.

I also recall telling you that I wasn’t taking your bet.
Anyway, feel better, little man?

Now I remember the reason I quit posting here…. ;-)

62. Basement Blogger - August 22, 2013

@ 24, 61

Sebastian S,

Red Dead Ryan, MJ, and myself took a ton of abuse for deducing that Benedict Cumberbatch was Khan. We had our intelligence questioned. And Dean-O called us idiots. Nothing wrong with reminding the guys who tormented us about that we were right and asking about their recipes for crow.

Now if we just get Curious Cadet, Dean-o, Jack, Anthony Thompson, and Montreal Paul to own up.

63. Sebastian - August 22, 2013

Basement Blogger~

I don’t care about any stupid bet! I never accepted any terms.
Jesus, get a grip.

Besides, STID turned out so badly that I think all of us lost anyway…

64. Basement Blogger - August 22, 2013

@ 63

Yeah, STID turned out so badly that it’s the highest grossing film of the Star Trek franchise. Link. And we haven’t even counted the returns from Japan or the Blu-Ray sales. And it turned out so badly, that it received critical acclaim. 87 per cent at Rotten Tomatoes. Yep, I’ll take your definition of “turning out badly” for a movie any day.

Link. STID is the highest grossing film of the franchise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Into_Darkness

65. MJ (The Original). - August 22, 2013

@63 “I don’t care about any stupid bet!”

Yea, because you were WROOOOONG, Fonzie. LOL

66. MJ (The Original). - August 22, 2013

Seriously Sebastian, I am just having fun with this — not trying to piss you off, dude. Peace!

67. Who cares - August 22, 2013

@63. While I have a few criticisms of STID, it is still a great film, which I have seen 8 times, and I (and it would seem most of the people not hand selected by Gustavo from Trekweb for their supposed “ranking” of all Trek films) did not find the movie disappointing, of course I am a Trek completionist, and do not discard any of it, not even Final Frontier or Enterprise.

68. Red Dead Ryan - August 22, 2013

Sebastien S.,

Just because you are wrong doesn’t mean you get to act like an ass here. Just do the right thing, man up and accept responsibility for your errors in judgement when it came to who the villain was and admit that you’re wrong about the success of the movie.

MJ,

If you want to write a Trek story, go ahead. Don’t let any of the naysayers stop you. Pursue your dream. Let your creative spirit soar. I’ll bet your script would easily put crap like “The Final Frontier”, “Nemesis” and “Insurrection” to shame, and might end up being better than some of the fan productions out there as well.

69. Sebastian S. - August 22, 2013

RDR~

Oh I see; so, you’re a moderator now?

First, I never agreed to the bet. Nor did I argue the financial success of the movie; financially it did terrific business. I said it was disappointing (if you’re going to quote me, quote me correctly please). It was disappointing to me personally. Very much so. My biggest disappointment this year at the movies.

I thought that as a story, STID sucked. The plot (as it is) falls to shreds under the lightest scrutiny. The story is full of holes. The villain doesn’t work (although Cumberbatch is a fine actor and gives his all). The script is a cut and paste rehash. Alice Eve’s Carol Marcus was poorly written and had NOTHING in common with the character of Carol Marcus at all other than blonde hair.

Here’s a better summary of my feelings about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B22Uy7SBe4

And by the way; I have a right to disagree with you, just as you & MJ have a right to enjoy substandard crap.
Dig in, boys!

70. MJ (The Original). - August 22, 2013

“And by the way; I have a right to disagree with you, just as you & MJ have a right to enjoy substandard crap.”

Well, I do actually enjoy your posts, dude, so you are correct there! ;-)

71. Red Dead Ryan - August 22, 2013

#69.

Here are some of your quotes…you are assuming everyone here agrees with your assessment of STID…which is untrue. Many of us like the movie. In fact, it still highly rated on Rotten Tomatoes with 87% (four and a half stars) and IMBD with an 8.1 (four stars).

You are entitled to your opinions, but they aren’t in line with the facts.

“Whoop de doo. You were right.
Star Trek Into Darkness was the biggest disappointment of the summer with a terrible script and more plot holes than a piercing parlor, but what the hell. You were right.”

“Besides, STID turned out so badly that I think all of us lost anyway…”

“And by the way; I have a right to disagree with you, just as you & MJ have a right to enjoy substandard crap.
Dig in, boys!”

These quotes demonstrate that it is ONLY YOUR OPINION that STID sucks.

You sound just like the folks at the recent convention that “determined” by a “poll” that STID is the “worst Trek film ever”.

72. Who cares - August 22, 2013

@71. Don’t forget the 100 people (thats all) that were involved in that “poll” were basically hand-picked to be a part of it, which means it has less validity than poll results during an election year, or in other words, no validity at all.

73. Vultan - August 22, 2013

I think Sebastian is right.

Considering the amount of time they had to work on the script, STID was a letdown. I mean, maybe my standards are too high or something, but I expected something a little more than a riff on TOS’ most famous baddie, TWOK’s most famous scene and a bunch of reused scenarios from the first Abrams movie.

And if anyone should get a pat on the back for the whole Khan debate, it’s Anthony for his early and accurate reporting.

74. David G. - August 22, 2013

Speaking of “Relics”:

When it comes time to put this one onto BlueRay, I hope the Powers That Be consider doing something special with this one and expand it from the version that was originally broadcast by including the scene between Marina Sirtis and James Doohan that was cut out from this episode. It’s the same scene that’s portrayed in the novelization of “Relics”, but it was cut from TV because of time, resulting in Troi basically just showing up at the end of the episode with the rest of the main cast to give Scotty a goodbye hug.

75. Sebastian S. - August 22, 2013

RDR~

“These quotes demonstrate that it is ONLY YOUR OPINION that STID sucks.”

****************************

Um…. yeah. My post, my opinion. Problem with that?

# 73.

Thanks Vultan.

Nice to ‘see’ you again. I’m been off this site for awhile.

And yes; you’re right.
Four years is a long time to wait to be served warmed up leftovers from a superior ST movie. When Kirk ‘died’, I didn’t cry, I cringed…

Sorry, but if anyone thinks the STID script was actually good? I’ve got some real estate on Atlantis I might be interested in selling to them. I loved ST09; not so much for STID.

As for Simon Pegg’s oh-so-eloquent ‘f**k you’ to the fans?

Well, double-dumb ass on YOU, Simon.

;-)

76. Vultan - August 22, 2013

#75

Good to ‘see’ you too, Sebastian. Think I cringed the most at Spock yelling KHAAANNN!!! Yeah… haven’t these guys ever watched Seinfeld or The Simpsons? That’s been parodied so many times I couldn’t take it seriously. But then… Shatner’s original delivery gives me a bit of a chuckle too.

What’s this about Simon Pegg? I haven’t heard about that.

77. Sebastian S. - August 22, 2013

77. @ Vultan~

He said ‘F**k you’ to fans who dared to criticize the masterpiece that is STID. He was addressing fans who ranked it as the worst ST film at the latest ST con in Vegas recently.

Article here: http://movies.yahoo.com/news/simon-pegg-f-think-star-trek-darkness-sucks-155031897.html

And yes, Spock crying (?!?) over a dying captain he barely knew and didn’t even seem to like all that much (in this universe, anyway) seemed out of character with the Spock we saw in ST09 who didn’t even cry when both his mother AND his home world were destroyed.

And his “Khaaaaan” cry actually induced laughter from the audience at the theatre where I saw it. Hardly a good reaction to a ‘death scene.’

And since when is human blood compatible with tribble blood, anyway?!?
You’d think Khan would’ve used his ‘super blood’ to revive his dead wife Marla on Ceti Alpha Five in “Wrath of Khan” (oh that’s right; he didn’t HAVE super blood in that movie… my mistake).

And how does ‘cold fusion’ mean stopping volcanic explosions? It means triggering a fusion reaction at room temperatures. It doesn’t make volcanoes cold. That’s not a slip up; that’s weapons grade stupid. And to think that Lawrence Livermore Labs had a hand in this mess….

78. Vultan - August 22, 2013

#77

Ah, thanks for the link. I’m not surprised by his response. He does have a prickly personality. A bit overly defensive at times from the interviews I’ve seen him give. His comparison to an indie band becoming famous doesn’t quite work for me. I love that Trek is famous, always have, but I’d rather it not be famous for remaking its greatest hits. It was awful when TNG did it (“The Naked Now”) and it’s fairly awful seeing it now.

No argument on your other points. I agree. STID is not the worst, as that poll said. Not the best either. Somewhere down in the bottom half for me.

79. Vultan - August 22, 2013

I think Nemesis is probably the worst.

80. Sebastian S. - August 22, 2013

# 78

For me? It was always Insurrection.

Sure NEM has plenty of flaws, but INS is just plain boring. That’s an even worse sin in my book than 21st century dune buggies at ‘unsafe velocities’.

;-D

81. MJ (The Original). - August 22, 2013

@78 @79 Both equally bad. It’s like, should I pop the zit or the blackhead.

82. Vultan - August 22, 2013

I had another response for you, Sebastian. It was deleted for some reason.

Anyway, thanks for the link. Not the first time Pegg has been… uh, less-than-diplomatic. No argument about your other points. I agree.

STID is not the worst, as that poll said. Not the best either. Somewhere in the bottom half for me. Insurrection and Nemesis are both bad. And Generations and Final Frontier aren’t exactly great works of art either.

83. Vultan - August 22, 2013

And now it’s back again. MADNESS!

84. Sebastian S. - August 22, 2013

# 82

Vultan~

Maybe it was briefly beamed to Kronos by mistake…. ;-D

85. Thorny - August 22, 2013

“Time’s Arrow” was good, but it was a let-down because it really didn’t explain the Guinan/Picard relationship. In “Best of Both Worlds”, Guinan tells Riker that her relationship with Picard goes “beyond friendship, beyond family” or something like that. And… well, “Time’s Arrow” really didn’t live up to that. It is still an above-average TNG outing though.

86. Red Dead Ryan - August 22, 2013

“The Final Frontier”, “Nemesis”, and “Insurrection” are all equally bad, and all three should be shown in film schools as examples of HOW NOT TO make movies.

87. I am to Smurfy - August 22, 2013

32 MJ you know what talk smack about me all you want,
I might not agree with you but I am not calling you names or lashing out with Vulgar comments at you the way you are to me.

my first two posts didnt even pertain to you.

“We get it dude — you need to spread your single post across three different separate posts here because you have small weiner syndrome, and thus crave public attention to compensate for your malady.”

88. K-7 - August 22, 2013

@87

Ah shucks troll, did you feelings get hurt?

89. I am to Smurfy - August 22, 2013

88) Not at all MJ, I mean K-7
again note you are the one doing the name calling.
says alot about you man

90. I am to Smurfy - August 22, 2013

Anyways back to the topic at hand,
I am definately thinking that Chain of Command will get the feature length edit for season 6
and Best of Both Worlds for season 7

91. K-7 - August 22, 2013

Sure, whatever you say, “I’M TOO Smurphy”

92. DJ Neelix - August 22, 2013

@54: Then why have they released the two-parters chronologically so far? (Encounter at Farpoint aside, but it was already included in the sample release). If they didn’t plan to release all of them, then they surely would have skipped Redemption. I will be right on this, you’ll see.

As for Time’s Arrow, I think it’s a great episode with one of the smartest time travel stories that I have seen. Data has a big role in the episode and could be on the cover. Or Guinan/Whoopi. Both of them would sell.

93. Garak's Pride - August 22, 2013

Re: I am too Smurphy

I’ve seen a number of posts from you in the past several weeks that have been very critical of Star Trek Into Darkness; and your posts seem to be very repetitive on that topic.

So where do you get off telling people that they can be critical and repetitive (just like you are) concerning Star Trek: The Next Generation?

You might be advised to take a look in the mirror. You may find that you may not like what you see.

94. Garak's Pride - August 22, 2013

correction: “So where do you get off telling people that they CAN’T be critical and repetitive (just like you are) concerning Star Trek: The Next Generation?

sorry!

95. Matt Wright - August 22, 2013

“If they didn’t plan to release all of them, then they surely would have skipped Redemption.”

That makes no sense, Redemption was the next two-parter after BOBW. Why would they have skipped it? It’s a very popular season cliffhanger, and would break the pattern you mentioned of doing things chronologically.

The pattern thus far has been to release the single-disc release with the season that starts the cliffhanger (i.e. BOBW with S3, and Redemption with S4), that means if they were going to do Time’s Arrow it would be out with S5, instead CBS chose to capitalize on the mass appeal of Spock and “Unification.”

Remember ultimately it’s about the time and cost to make exclusive bonus content for the single-disc release, there is also cost in fabricating the discs and the extra marketing for the release, if CBS doesn’t think it will sell in enough quantity, they won’t bother.

96. MJ (The Original). - August 22, 2013

@89

Ah, wonderful. You don’t like being criticized, so you fall back on the “these guys must all be MJ” card again.

How disappointing; but my, how predictable.

PS: Remember when your dad spanked you too much as a kid? Maybe that was me too? :-)

97. DJ Neelix - August 23, 2013

@95
They would have skipped it because it is nowhere near of having the appeal to a general audience, such as Unification. They released all of the feature lengths both on VHS and DVD (albeit in a box) and I am confident that they will release all of them on BD as well.

98. Danpaine - August 23, 2013

For those of you who were right in predicting the villain would be Khan, good for you, really, for your insight. That doesn’t change the fact they SHOULD have used a villain and story more original. So congratulations, on predicting the movie would kind of suck. You were right about that, too. It’s not that I thought you were wrong about Khan. I was just hoping you would be.

99. Who cares - August 23, 2013

@98. STID does not suck, kind of or otherwise, you might feel differently but that is your opinion nothing more, and does not reflect the majority opinions of either “Trekkies/Trekkers” or the general movie going audience. I get really tired of the unending negativity of a such a very, very small portion of the “fans”, and you guys are the minority no matter what you want to claim, and frankly if you don’t want to keep supporting the franchise then you should just fall off and leave the rest of us the f–k alone.

100. Red Dead Ryan - August 23, 2013

I imagine that I am To Smurfy is feeling a bit “blue” right now. :-)

#98.

“For those of you who were right in predicting the villain would be Khan, good for you, really, for your insight. That doesn’t change the fact they SHOULD have used a villain and story more original. So congratulations, on predicting the movie would kind of suck. You were right about that, too. It’s not that I thought you were wrong about Khan. I was just hoping you would be.”

Thanks for admitting that some of us were right! However, the rest of your post was crap. Oh well, sometimes I gotta accept whatever I can get. (sigh). :-)

#99.

“@98. STID does not suck, kind of or otherwise, you might feel differently but that is your opinion nothing more, and does not reflect the majority opinions of either “Trekkies/Trekkers” or the general movie going audience. I get really tired of the unending negativity of a such a very, very small portion of the “fans”, and you guys are the minority no matter what you want to claim, and frankly if you don’t want to keep supporting the franchise then you should just fall off and leave the rest of us the f–k alone.”

YUP! Exactly!!!

101. Danpaine - August 23, 2013

99. Who cares – August 23, 2013

I’ve been visiting here daily since the website’s inception, so I think I’ll continue, thanks. I don’t comment much, but do enjoy the banter and insights.

Seriously, of course you guys are entitled to your opinions. I pre-ordered STID just like everyone else, and am looking forward to receiving it. I just remain a bit disappointed in the film overall, though. For me it wound up being….typical. But hey, I’m 47 this year. I’m not the audience they were aiming for anyway.

Carry on.

102. Disinvited - August 23, 2013

#77. Sebastian S. – August 22, 2013

“And since when is human blood compatible with tribble blood, anyway?!?” – Sebastian S. – August 22, 2013

Well that tribbles are extremely compatible with humans and their environs is exemplified by their extreme proliferation therein.

As for their blood:

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/3624/20130823/dogs-blood-saves-cats-life-rare-interspecies-transfusion.htm

apparently tribbles lack antibodies for genetically engineered universal human donor blood?

#95. Matt Wright – August 22, 2013

“… if CBS doesn’t think it will sell in enough quantity, they won’t bother.” – Matt Wright – August 22, 2013

Exactly my point about there being a market for ENTERPRISE.

103. MJ (The Original). - August 23, 2013

@102

Except that Enterprise was ALREADY IN HD format, and hardly cost anything to put onto Blu-Ray.

So you are comparing apples and oranges.

I would bet that if Enterprise were in the same state as TNG — requiring a substantial conversion investment — that an Enterprise Blu-Ray release would never see the light of day.

104. Spock's Bangs - August 23, 2013

I’m sorry Nimoy ever showed up in that travesty…and judging by his less -than-complimentary comments at the time, so was he.

105. MJ (The Original). - August 23, 2013

“I’m sorry Nimoy ever showed up in that travesty…and judging by his less -than-complimentary comments at the time, so was he.”

Agreed!

106. Disinvited - August 23, 2013

#103. MJ (The Original). – August 23, 2013

Not exactly. From this site’s own reporting:

”On to the video, as with Season 1 this can end up a bit of a mixed bag, however Season 2 definitely looks better overall. The live action elements generally look great, pretty similar to Season 1 in that regard. The best part is that in most cases the CGI in Season 2 is much improved.

While it seems the VFX is generally not rendered at HD resolution (720p) yet, anything new for this season looks quite a bit better than Season 1. It does look like that perhaps some scenes were rendered at 720p (for example see the Narendra III vista from ”Judgement” at the bottom of this article), but it’s not certain, the VFX house was under tremendous time and budgetary pressures so they rendered whatever they could as high resolution as feasible for 2002 but if they were facing an overly long rendering time and/or VFX budget crunch it might be dropped to 480p.

By the time we get to “The Expanse”, things look very good. Since “The Expanse” was the end of Season 2 and the lead-in for Season 3 (which as far as we know Season 3+ was fully rendered at 720p), it was also likely rendered at 720p. Either way the new stuff looks great and is far less obviously low resolution, the flipside to this is that when stock shots from Season 1 are reused it becomes pretty obvious (mostly stock shots of the Enterprise in flight).”

And again, if there’s no market, why bother with any release even if it WAS as “easy” as you assumed to transfer? The WHO’S THE BOSS Season 1 DVD box set cost far less than Enterprise for Sony to render. It didn’t meet sales expectations and thus no Season 2 and no any other WHO’S THE BOSS produced.

But maybe we should take this over there:

http://trekmovie.com/2013/08/15/star-trek-enterprise-season-2-blu-ray-review/#comment-5153381

107. Matt Wright - August 23, 2013

Actually Disinvited, MJ is correct, ENT is in HD. The CGI was rendered in 480p/720p initially over at EdenFX (a now defunct company) but it was then brought back to Paramount Television and they imported it into their digital editing workflow and upscaled to 1080p for the final digital master of the episode. So the end product is indeed stored at 1080p resolution. BTW this is also how other contemporaries of ENT, like Firefly and BSG, worked.

To make Enterprise Blu-ray sets, CBS Home Video just pulls out the master digital files from an archive and imports them into a Blu-ray authoring suite to make menus, episode chapter breaks, etc. and calls it a day. The fact that there is excellent bonus material is awesome, since CBS could just as well have cranked out barebones Blu-ray discs with episodes-only quickly and easily.

108. MJ (The Original). - August 23, 2013

@107

Yep, thanks Matt.

109. MJ (The Original). - August 23, 2013

@106 “And again, if there’s no market, why bother with any release even if it WAS as “easy”

Very funny! Of course the market is not “zero”. But the ROI (Return On Investment) calculation of producing Enterprise Blu-ray sets is much more favorable for a much smaller market like the Enterprise fan base.

110. Red Dead Ryan - August 23, 2013

I currently have the “Enterprise” dvd sets. Until the Blu Rays come down in price, I will stick with what I already own. And judging by what I have read here about the visual quality of the Blu Rays, I don’t feel bad about waiting awhile.

At least the TNG Blu Rays are a huge improvement over the dvds. So the $80 prices make some sense. But the “Enterprise” Blu Rays should be no more than $45.

Heck, at $45 each, a lot more of them would be sold. Most “Enterprise” fans (like myself) who own the dvds already are probably going to wait awhile for a price drop.

111. Disinvited - August 23, 2013

#107. Matt Wright – August 23, 2013

According to this source:

http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/03/review-star-trek-enterprise-season-1-blu-ray/

The FX was “(CORRECTION: It seems most VFX shots were actually produced at 480p resolution, with shots only being rendered at 720p/1080p if the visual effects team thought aliasing issues were too severe).”

http://www.audioholics.com/editorials/star-trek-enterprise-season-one-blu-ray-review

“For the Blu-ray release, CBS decided to only algorithmically up-scale the CGI scenes to 1080p.”

Ergo, why I doubted a mere straight transfer from HD episode masters was occurring.

But clearly mistakes were being corrected in the reporting. So, I’ll go with what you can come up with to explain this. Were the mostly 480p FX masters algorithmically upscaled separately for the Blu-ray release? Or were the mostly 480p FX already upscaled to 1080p on the series’ episode masters used for the transfer and nothing additional done for the Blu-ray as you appear to have said?

I don’t dispute, that CBS was trying to do these with as little additional investment as possible, but it has been my experience that a quality product worthy of the price CBS set rarely comes from just plugging in and pushing record.

#109. MJ (The Original). – August 23, 2013

Thanks for acknowledging the market for Season 1 clearly wasn’t so small as to not warrant releasing Season 2.

112. Matt Wright - August 23, 2013

Nothing in Trekcore’s stuff contradicts that I said. I read TrekCore regularly. They have really great info from contacts with the people involved in the production.

All they’re saying is what I said, the CGI was rendered at 480p in S1, the live-action was always scanned in at 1080p, and it was edited in a fully digital workflow since it was produced in the 2000s.

The Audioholics review’s language makes it sounds this is something new for the Blu-rays but it’s not. They’re not familiar with Trek and it’s production like the guys at TrekCore and I am. ENT has been available at 720p HD since its initial broadcast and subsequent repeats on cable/satellite channel HDnet, this is the same version you’ll find on Netflix and iTunes. You can see the same lower resolution artifacts on those versions as well, though it’s slightly less obvious.

The S1 CGI has always been upscaled, since that was what the budget allowed given the computer power of 2001, the time to make it for a weekly show, and the general budget for VFX on the show. This is the same as Firefly BTW, its CGI was done at 480p as a cost saving measure.

113. Matt Wright - August 23, 2013

I just took a capture from “Broken Bow” on Netflix, and saved a similar screenshot from the Blu-ray release that TrekCore put up, I also made a copy of the 1080p BD shot resized to 720p, you’ll see that it the resized shot looks very much like the 720p native version from Netflix. You can tell it all comes from the same lower resolution CGI elements. Viewing it at 1080p just exacerbates the low resolution nature of it. Taking the 1080p master and downscaling to 720p, which they did for the broadcast versions, makes it look a bit less nasty.

http://scifanatic.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ent_bb_bd_1080p.jpg
http://scifanatic.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ent_bb_bd_resize_to_720p.jpg
http://scifanatic.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ent_bb_netflix_720p.jpg

114. Disinvited - August 23, 2013

#112. Matt Wright – August 23, 2013

Weird, I fully intended to impart that yours was the superior intellect with regard to this for me and I was only looking for you to explain the confusion of the other reporting, which you did. Still, it seems I managed to create doubt where clarity of focus was only sought, and for that I apologize.

The confusion I had in the TrekWeb reporting is they said the only reason for FX appearing in 720p was to address “aliasing issues” and it wasn’t clear whether any of that had been addressed (or perhaps unintentionally undone in obliviousness of it) in the 1080p upscaling.

115. Disinvited - August 23, 2013

#113. Matt Wright – August 23, 2013

I wrote 114 before your 113 popped up for me. Fascinating. And thanks for investigating that for me.

116. Matt Wright - August 23, 2013

Ahh I see what you were confused about now from those quotes about rendering at different resolutions…

Taking something 853×480 and stretching it up to 1920×1080 results in aliasing, because there’s just too little detail in the pixels when scaled up that much.

For example: When you look at an image with diagonal lines as you zoom in on them (or start scaling them up in size) you start seeing that they actually are a bunch of smaller straight lines. This is aliasing.

Scaling 720 to 1080 is much less of a stretch and generally looks fine (just a little soft). So the later seasons with high res CGI look better.

As to TrekCore’s bit about: “…shots only being rendered at 720p/1080p if the visual effects team thought aliasing issues were too severe.”

This is about rendering as cheaply and easily as possible with circa 2001 computing power. If they rendered it at 480p and the edges of things looked terrible, with stair steps, etc. they would instead render it higher resolution, but only then.

I gather you’re not a PC gamer. Aliasing and thus anti-aliasing is big deal in making things look realistic for gamers.

The most basic form of anti-aliasing is to render something higher resolution than you need, and then resize it before being displayed to the user. You end up with smooth edges because you went from a higher detail to a lower one.

117. Disinvited - August 23, 2013

#113. Matt Wright – August 23, 2013

But let’s take this over to the Season 2 thread as I suggested earlier. As surely we are way OT here?

118. Matt Wright - August 23, 2013

We are indeed OT. WordPress won’t copy comments from one article to another sadly, otherwise I would have moved them over there.

I’ll re-post my last couple of comments there, so we can take it over there.

119. MJ (The Original). - August 23, 2013

Disinvited, do you understand now? As I said earlier, it was a very simple process to put Enterprise, which was already mastered in HD, onto Blu-Ray. If you are trying to make this more complex that it needs to be to somehow make a claim that its more involved, I’m not buying it.

120. Matt Wright - August 23, 2013

Come on now, that attitude is not needed MJ, he’s already getting it, just needed some clarifications about how it was produced. Also please remember we’re trying to move this whole ENT stuff back to the ENT review comments.

121. MJ (The Original). - August 23, 2013

@120. OK, sorry.

I like Disinvited, by the way.

122. Trekboi - August 24, 2013

Bitch Bitch Bitch thats all you bitches do!

123. MJ (The Original). - August 24, 2013

@122

What are you, the only Trek nerd in existence who likes hip-hop?

I mean, who talks like this? LOL

124. Dom - August 25, 2013

Unification is a disappointing one for me. I think a lot of us had hoped to see Spock back on the Enterprise. And, without Kirk to spark off, the TNG team make him seem very boring indeed. I guessed within a few minutes of starting to watch the feature-length VHS I rented back when it was released that they’d split the budget by paying for Mark Lenard in part one and Leonard Nimoy in part two. Killing off Sarek offscreen was unforgivable though and demonstrates the the rather dismissive attitude the TNG bosses had towards the original Star Trek.

Having Spock, long thought to be a defector, get arrested when he returns to see his dying father and unwittingly tricked into slipping a Romulan invasion force past Vulcan security would have been far more interesting. Frankly anything would have been.

Roddenberry was right when he said original Star Trek main characters should never turn up in TNG shows. It just emphasises that TNG and Star Trek have very little in common beyond names. Spock appearing in TNG is no different from a character like Jack Bauer turning up on the show: he simply doesn’t belong there.

Anyway, count me in for hoping for more of the feature-length stories. The Best of Both Worlds has a great first 45 minutes, Gambit is a good adventure that actually felt like a 90-minute episode badly chopped in two and Chain of Command is a terrific story with Ronnie Cox making me wish he’d been made captain in his own Trek show!

125. Michael - August 27, 2013

My best guess is that for season 7, they will just offer TBOBW as the 90 min telefilm on the season set, or an option to play it either 90 min or later syndicated 2 parter form. It’s technically NOT a 2 parter. It aired orig. as a longer episode as the series finale if my dim memory serves.

126. Ahmed - September 9, 2013

@ 57. MJ (The Original). – August 22, 2013

“I may go back and rework my very rough draft of a Star Trek story that I had started several years back. Maybe I could take a shot at turning it into a novel.”

MJ, I’d love to read that one day.

127. Silvereyes - September 9, 2013

@ 48

My God, what is this, the MJ appreciation thread? But hey, I like MJ. He gets testy when contradicted but for every kick in the ass I would give MJ, there are 50 pats on the back :)

128. TrekMadeMeWonder - September 9, 2013

it just occurred to me that Shatner never did a Next Gen.

Ia that a possible reason the NuTrek Next Gen loving producers did not include him in their movies?

129. Bob Tompkins - September 9, 2013

I always thought Spock’s comment about accepting responsibility for the [implied bad] outcome of Khitomer was a bit overplayed, probably to benefit ticket sales to The Undiscovered Country.
I recall going to the movie with the impression it was not going to be a happy ending based upon his comments to Picard…

130. Pensive's Wetness - September 9, 2013

Gentlemen, about Simon Peg’s comments about the STID naysayers (*raises hand*)… It is possible his defence of STID is less to do with honestly being insulted by fan comments being detrimental towards the second movie and more like just smart PR (so that TPTB wont have cause to remove him from the next Star Trek ala Megan Fox)?

131. Mark - September 9, 2013

@128 TrekMadeMeWonder

…He was kinda in that big Next Gen though. Generations? ;-)

132. gangsta - September 9, 2013

so is dis gunna be in the movies like sum of da others?

133. PEB - September 9, 2013

@130, it think it was more about him just feeling as an actor that it was a good film and he gave a good performance and he was being protective. you have to remember that these guys love working together and the whole cast and crew is like a family at least thats how they all portrayed it. they all very much look up to jj and enjoy the bad robot team. so i really think simon was being protective and looking at it from his perspective and knowing the type of guy he is i dont think his reaction was THAT off the mark. to him it was ‘hey, chill out, i know there’s stuff you dont like but we all worked hard on this and it’s a good movie.’ he just said it in much more direct colorful language which if you read any of these threads isn’t too far off from what certain fans choose to say about this rebooted universe.

i could be wrong, but those are just my thoughts. just watched the bluray and while the missing extras make my blood boil, it’s honestly not a bad trek film. definitely not the best and definitely not as good as trek 09 but it’s not bad either. i only hope we aren’t left out in the cold for the ressurection of star wars which is going to lead to massive merchandising, tv, cartoons, video games, books, etc… trek was supposed to get that treatment but…well we all know what happened there. gives me a headache to think about it.

134. Paul - September 9, 2013

Mr. Orci if you read this, I finally saw Into Darkness and I loved it. I refused to see it in theaters because it looked like another 911 domestic terrorist fear mongering film like most films are today, but it wasn’t. It actually had a healthy message, that we shouldn’t succum to revenge!

135. Khan 2.0 - September 10, 2013

@129 – yes i remember thinking Kirk might die (it was to be the final movie after all)

136. Danny - September 10, 2013

@ 134 Into Darkness was all about fear mongering. Starfleet is supposed to be a utopian scientific government entity, not the american military. They even found a grizzled old american general to be in charge. It’s like they figured the political undertones of pacifism and non interference in Star Trek went against the war mongering that is all the rage so they replaced everything with jingoistic crap. In the movie there were three terrorist attacks on Earth, Hollywood is all bought fear mongering, to keep that fear of a terrorist attack alive in people!

137. jed - September 10, 2013

Who is doing the audio commentary for unification? Nimoy? Surely Not!

138. BatlethInTheGroin - September 10, 2013

#128: I take it you never saw Generations. :)

139. VOODOO - September 10, 2013

Interesting article in today’s Rolling Stone Magazine about the potential return of Star Trek: TNG to tv…I agree with every word of it.

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/its-time-to-bring-back-star-trek-the-next-generation-20130910

140. star trackie - September 11, 2013

TNG return to TV? dear God no. The continuing milk-runs of boring technobabble and pretentious soapy-space drama lost me back in the 80’s and I’m just now warming up to Trek again with JJ’s movies! The TNG ship has sailed, thankfully. With apologies to John,Paul George and Ringo, just let it be! (not to be confused with make it dull–er I ,mean, “so”.)

141. Curious Cadet - September 21, 2013

Anybody read anything about when CBS will start distributing the Remastered HD video of both TNG and TOS to broadcasters? It’s nuts that they have these HD masters, yet they continue to broadcast SD video in all their syndication markets. The complete TOS BluRays have been out now for a while, yet all I can find on TV is SD. I suppose it is to be expected that CBS would finish the entire run of TNG before selling it into syndication, but that’s at least 3 more years. They’re only hurting themselves by reducing the value of the series in syndication. People who watch scifi, don’t usually settle for SD, especially when they have the BluRay sitting on their shelves.

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