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Larry Nemecek’s Stellar Cartography Full Review & Unboxing December 5, 2013

by Kayla Iacovino , Filed under: Books,Merchandise,Review , trackback

Star Trek Stellar Cartography: The Starfleet Reference Library is the latest and greatest book out from trekspert Larry Nemecek. Inside Stellar Cartography is so much more than a book. It comes with 10 large, high-quality posters suitable for framing or simply admiration, plus the 48-page book with additional prints of the larger maps and the history and context behind those maps, including tales about the various cultures and interactions within each of the maps. TrekMovie was delighted to get a copy of the new book. See our full review and an unboxing video after the jump.

The Skinny
The details of Star Trek Stellar Cartography: The Starfleet Reference Library.

Author: Larry Nemecek
Map Illustrations: Ian Fullwood, Ali Ries, and Geoffrey Mandel
Hardcover: 48 pages
Publisher: 47North; Har/Chrt edition (December 3, 2013)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1477805974
ISBN-13: 978-1477805978
Product Dimensions: 14 x 11.4 x 2.3 inches

List price: $79.99 USD
Current sale price on Amazon.com: $47.99

What’s inside
Stellar Cartography is more than a book. Really, it’s a map collection in its own right. It comes in a high-quality box (that’s what you see in the images above), which opens up via a magnetic flap to reveal the book itself front and center surrounded on either side by two pockets full of large, high-quality maps. The box itself is a very nice product — it’s made of sturdy cardboard material with a glossy finish and embossed lettering. It very nicely displays the contents inside and would make a very beautiful addition to any collection or coffee table.


The box, which contains the book and maps


The opened box, displaying its contents

The clamshell case opens up into a tri-fold display. The book itself is 8″ x 10″, sits inside of a frame and can be removed using the yellow ribbon placed underneath it. Inside the book is glossy maps of the Star Trek universe, all utilizing the local languages (and some with English as well). There is text corresponding to each of the maps, which gives information on the cultures depicted in the maps themselves. With only 48 pages in total, many of those pages being maps, this makes for a light read. Really, this book is all about the maps. The text gives nice insights into the maps and helps the reader to appreciate the stories that the maps themselves have to tell.


The book itself


Detail of the inside of one of the box flaps

The real prize inside Stellar Cartography is the maps themselves. They are ten in number and are tucked away neatly in the side pockets of the display box. Each 24″ x 36″ map is printed on high-quality, thick paper suitable for framing. These maps are really what make this collection stellar (pun intended). The text in the book gives the maps context, but the artwork itself is a thing of beauty and something made to be admired. Each race gets a distinct style, the most unique being the Surak-era Vulcan solar system, which is a highly stylized vision of a solar system that really captures the Vulcan aesthetic. Note that each of the maps is sourced from the Federation archives, but each map is a historical piece, most often made by the culture it represents. For example, the stylized Vulcan map is a historical piece of artwork make by Vulcan artist T’sari in the 4th century.

Interestingly, the text regarding the Romulan Empire map alludes to an explosion that caused the destruction of the entire Romulan home star system (which happened in the Prime Universe in Star Trek 2009). It also states that the shock wave triggered by the explosion was thwarted thanks to “red matter” and claimed the life of Ambassador Spock. That tells us that the text of this book is written in the Prime Universe, after the incursion that sent Spock back in time and to the JJ verse.


The folded maps, each sourced from the Federation archives


Unfolded Vulcan map from the 4th century (the time of Surak) drawn by Vulcan artist T’sari

The Unboxing Video
So that you can really get a feel for what Stellar Cartography has to offer, I’ve made an unboxing video for you. Truly, this is one of the only books I know that deserves such treatment, as it’s really more than a book – it is just as it says on the book “Selections from the Federation Astronomy Library”.


Comments

1. Matt Wright - December 5, 2013

Thanks for the review Kayla, been wondering about this book since I saw it announced a while back.

2. NCC-73515 - December 5, 2013

Strangely, the “tlh” is used as a “k” here… :P

3. crazydaystrom - December 5, 2013

I LOVE these types of Trek books!
This WILL be mine. Oh yes, this will be mine. Can’t wait.

4. Vultan - December 5, 2013

Thanks for the review. Looks nice. I recently got the Federation history book. Wish it had been more like this.

Gotta love maps!

5. Red Dead Ryan - December 5, 2013

They should have put the TOS Enterprise on the cover instead of the TNG version.

6. CmdrR - December 5, 2013

Begs for pewter starships and a decahedron die.

I likee.

7. Federali Aundy - December 5, 2013

The maps look a lot like the book “Star Trek Star Charts” by Geoffrey Mandel. Is this just a suped up version of that book?

8. Ahmed - December 5, 2013

@ 5. Red Dead Ryan – December 5, 2013

“They should have put the TOS Enterprise on the cover instead of the TNG version.”

What is wrong with you? They are all called the USS Enterprise.

Shame on you with your TNG hate!

9. Red Dead Ryan - December 5, 2013

#8.

Ahmed,

Dude I don’t hate TNG. But its not as iconic as TOS, which is hot right now due to the reboot.

I just think the TOS ship would be more appropriate. No big deal. Just an opinion.

Sheesh, I thought you were going to stop getting angry here?

10. Ahmed - December 5, 2013

@ 9. Red Dead Ryan – December 5, 2013

” Ahmed,

Dude I don’t hate TNG. But its not as iconic as TOS, which is hot right now due to the reboot.
I just think the TOS ship would be more appropriate. No big deal. Just an opinion.
Sheesh, I thought you were going to stop getting angry here?”

No problem dude, and I’m not angry. I was just pissed off all day when I read the news that Fox is already planning ANOTHER X-Men movie for 2016 while Paramount & Bad Robot are still sitting on their a$$es & doing nothing.

11. Markus McLaughlin - December 5, 2013

I can’t wait to read it on my iPad Air! :D

@MarkusMcLaughln

12. Red Dead Ryan - December 5, 2013

Ahmed,

Okay. Yeah, it’s frustrating that Paramount seems to be dragging it’s feet, though it looks like Bob is going to start on the script relatively soon.

13. Rastaman - December 5, 2013

I will say the cover does look a little disjointed with Classic TOS text for “Star Trek” and then having TNG Enterprise. I agree. Wish they had used TOS Enterprise (no bloody -A -B -C or -D). More iconic.

14. Rastaman - December 5, 2013

Then again, I guess the book kind of spans the Prime Universe generations, so maybe it is appropriate. Meh

15. Hat Rick - December 5, 2013

Thanks, Kayla, for the wonderful article! I know what I want for Christmas, thanks to your review!

To all contributors to the TrekMovie site — please don’t think that readers fail to appreciate you articles, despite the fact that relatively few of us will outright say that we do. Well, we do, I think! (We’re too busy arguing with one another to find the time!)

I, for one, find all of them to be quite interesting and wish to thank you for your efforts. You’re part of what makes TrekMovie such a great place to visit.

16. Vultan - December 5, 2013

Didn’t TNG introduce “Stellar Cartography”? So it kind of makes sense to use the D on the cover.

But yeah, the logo should either match the ship or… go with a standard font.

17. Vultan - December 5, 2013

Hat Rick, you’re a good guy.
Happy Holidays!

18. Ahmed - December 5, 2013

@ 15. Hat Rick – December 5, 2013

“To all contributors to the TrekMovie site — please don’t think that readers fail to appreciate you articles, despite the fact that relatively few of us will outright say that we do.”

I second that. Matt Wright, Kayla Iacovino & all the other TM contributors are doing great job keeping TM up & running.

Thanks guys for your hard work.

19. Larry Nemecek - December 5, 2013

Hey Kayla–thanks for the warm review!

I would only caution you that the book, while “jus” 48 pages, is 48 dense pages—and includes a lot of subtle canon fixing and canon massaging… and some all new dots connected. MOST of all, I was proudest to finally make sense of the “astrography” of the Dominion War, the “threat to the hoe worlds” puzzle, and the whole “Alpha Quadrant powers” phrase. I’m anxious to hear what Niners and everyone think about that.

Oh, and Licensing has gone with the TOS font overall for years now on packaging, regardless of series/era. :-)

20. Larry Nemecek - December 5, 2013

Haha. HOME worlds. Never type in a rush during a workshop break.

21. Larry Nemecek - December 5, 2013

Kayla–If you didn’t get a Dominion War map in the batch, “demand your money back.” :-)

22. MJ - December 5, 2013

Cool book, but it’s a shame it isn’t focused on TOS and nuTrek TOS universe, since that is the current and future focus of Star Trek now.

And, BTW, great job to Kayla and others for their cool contributions to this site, as this very well done article indicates..thanks!!!

23. Nemesis4909 - December 6, 2013

This looks superb, I really want to own this. Nice to see the Prime universe getting more attention…though since it mentions Red Matter and all that JJVerse nonsense it acknowledges it (not a sleight on the book itself of course, just don’t really want to canonise the JJverse personally).

Nice job on the review, I love these features and I am saddened that they are few and far between compared to the abundance of articles we once had here.

Ahmed, I find it encouraging that Fox seem to care about the X Franchise to keep it in peoples minds and keep it in the cinema. There doesn’t seem to be that same love for Star Trek at paramount or by the production team.

If it were up to me I’d get an entirely new production team, write off those last two movies as unofficial and start again.

Computer, end program!

24. K-7 - December 6, 2013

“If it were up to me I’d get an entirely new production team, write off those last two movies as unofficial and start again.”

Just review the book and drop your obvious JJ-hate. OK, trooll?

25. Marja - December 6, 2013

I look forward to this one too! Looks lovely.

Yeah Larry, I was a little worried when I saw “hoe” worlds ;-)

a whole world of gardeners or …
y’know.

26. crazydaystrom - December 6, 2013

19. Larry Nemecek
“threat to the hoe worlds”

Oh noooo!!! RED(light) ALERT!!! These planets must be protected!!!!

20. Larry Nemecek
Haha. HOME worlds.

Oh. That’s different.

Never mind.

LOL

;-)

27. NCC-73515 - December 6, 2013

The Klingon map is so cool, top left is Vulcan :D

The description says:

DaHjaj tabe ‘nalwI’ tlHInghan wo
He rue tlhtent anD laImS echreeD by tHe IghH ounchIl nD tHe oSt earSome anD ormIDable orD Hanchellor oval n tHe ear ong aHleSS

DaHjaj – today
tabe ‘nalwI’ – this part I don’t understand
tlHInghan wo – this is supposed to mean tlhIngan wo’, Klingon Empire

28. Hat Rick - December 6, 2013

Thanks, Vultan (17) and Ahmed (18)!

And to the author of the book — great to see you posting here. I’ve enjoyed your books and commentaries for years. There’s something about Trek that inspires years and decades of faithful following from writers like you and other Treksperts.

During times when Trek isn’t that much in production (we still don’t have an official announcement for the third JJ Trek movie!), it’s nice to know that there’s enough depth in the Trek phenomenon that one can easily while away hours reading about its universe and its myriads of details.

Not only is this fictional universe rich in its intricate quasi-factualism, but one can take comfort in the many parallels Trek has had in its foretelling of the progress of humankind into the stars. Although seemingly slower than we’ve hoped, people of all races and kinds have surely endeavored to take up the enterprise of space exploration; one only need read the news to find that not only the United States, but also the rest of the world is taking up the cudgel to move us into the stars.

Knowledge of our universe, through NASA’s fantastic (but real!) space probes and landers, the Hubble Space Telescope and successors, land-based observatories such as the forthcoming European Extremely Large Telescope, and new efforts by up-and-coming spacefaring nations — all of this combines with the positive messages of Star Trek and its fans and admirers.

This is a good time to be human and interested in the universe, and it’s good to know that Star Trek and its enthusiasts are among the celebrants of the final, but ever-new, frontiers ahead.

29. ST:EXP - December 6, 2013

I still have questions about the scale of distances in the Trek universe.

Looking at the maps, some of the distances seem incredible even for Trek lore.

So I don’t understand in the episodes of any of the series how they warped there so quick.

It would take Voyager 70 years or something at max. warp to get home…. but some of the areas “locally” traveled to appeared take hours, but they look on the map that they should take way longer.

How did Enterprise get to ShaKaRee in like one afternoon in STV?

Based on it’s location in this map book…. I mean… wow.

Or the Amargosa star in Generations…. they ate lunch and all of a sudden the Enterprise was there…. on the map it looks like a pretty good journey compared to everything else on the map that they travelled to in the series.

30. Thomas E. - December 6, 2013

The writers of a future Film or TV Series should have these posters hanging on their wall for reference. I certainly would if I was writing for Star Trek.

31. Hat Rick - December 6, 2013

29, it’s a special kind of magical warp drive. Some dare call it, “Artistic License.”

;)

For the same reason we never see major characters having to use the restroom on CSI (or any other) shows (or even in movies) at inconvenient moments, the Enterprise never has to go through hours, days or weeks of boring warp travel or the command crew has breakfast, lunch, or dinner in the meanwhile, even though we’re supposed to know they do. Time imposes its own incontrovertible constraints on storytelling, I suppose.

Picard, Riker, and the rest are the focus of our attention, so maybe we don’t care very much when they’re not on active duty throughout a 24-hour day and the relief crews take over while the Enterprise is en route. (On the other hand, “Lower Decks” (TNG) does hint that members of non-prime shifts aboard ship have a life, so at least there’s that.)

32. Jerry Modene - December 6, 2013

I once wrote a parody story in my old fanzine in the 70’s dealing with how they handle a day in which nothing is happening. By the time something happened, they had run out of time.

The story was “Star Trekiotomy”, contained in Logically Star Trek #4, which occasionally shows up on Ebay.

33. Red Dead Ryan - December 6, 2013

#23.

Not surprised to see someone with “Nemesis” as part of their name take pot shots at Bad Robot and the new movies. :-(

Next time, keep it to yourself, buddy.

34. LogicalLeopard - December 6, 2013

33. Red Dead Ryan – December 6, 2013
#23.

Not surprised to see someone with “Nemesis” as part of their name take pot shots at Bad Robot and the new movies. :-(

Next time, keep it to yourself, buddy.

****************

Well, he can’t exactly “keep it to himself” if he’s typing on a forum can he? *LOL* I mean, I don’t agree with him, but he’s got a right to say it. And that’s probably the mildest criticism I’ve seen of the movies *L*

35. NCC-73515 - December 6, 2013

The Klingon Empire is surrounded by:
vulqan, betarIghel, reghuluS, tellun, yrIDa, tlhlachH D’tlhel bratlht, betchtlha nebula, qarantIne, chHaqqabDaDaj, ajIlon, Sermanyu’q HermanS lanet, ‘orghHn, DavloS, aleanIr nebula, ghIbbet, Dorala, DayoS, renavI, ghalDonterre, tlheSSItlh, cheStuS, belletrIq, voDreynebla, chambra, chanopuS, amarghoSa.

36. Nemesis4909 - December 6, 2013

Sorry guys if my different opinion of the JJ movies offends but it’s not about to change. Wasn’t a fan of Into Darkness and not going to be shy about it. For the record I thought the 2009 movie had potential that has now been wasted. Also, I respect everyone who is of the opinion that the new movies are good, I just don’t happen to agree with them. Thank you @LogicalLeopard for the comment.

Interesting fact, my username isn’t a reference to Star Trek Nemesis, I’ve had this username for years, I adopted it when the third Resident Evil game came out and I’ve kind of stuck with it ever since. It’s actually a coincidence that it has anything to do with Star Trek. Interesting fact about me.

37. Matt Wright - December 6, 2013

Thanks for dropping by Larry!

38. I am to Smurfy - December 6, 2013

12) Red Dead-” though it looks like Bob is going to start on the script relatively soon.”

Well we all know what that means, He will post on here that he is locking himself away in a local Los Angeles Hotel(The Roosevelt in Hollywood last time lol)
to crank the script out, post on here that if site reader can figure out which hotel him and Alex are at writing at and stop by in the Hotel resturaunt (I think it was) they would name a character after that person.

post a few more days on here and twitter and various other trek sites, that they are now locked away working even harder then next thing you know the script is only a outline and they have to wait and see if JJ wants to direct or give it to another director. Then they get 4 or 5 other projects that they focus on instead, then the date will get pushed back because you know 2 years to develop and write a movie is way to short. (never mind the fact that they crank out Harry Potter films in 12 to 18 mths Hunger Games and Twilight films every 12 months apiece, they used to crank out a new bond film every year etc etc.)

Lol I kid I kid lol

39. Ahmed - December 6, 2013

@ 24. K-7 – December 6, 2013

“Just review the book and drop your obvious JJ-hate. OK, trooll?”

@ 33. Red Dead Ryan – December 6, 2013

“Not surprised to see someone with “Nemesis” as part of their name take pot shots at Bad Robot and the new movies. :-(
Next time, keep it to yourself, buddy.”

K-7 & RDR,

Just as you have all the right to express your love for NuTrek movies & STID, other people have the same right to express their dislike or hate for the same movies. It is called free speech :)

40. Nemesis4909 - December 6, 2013

#38 spot on. Absolutely spot on.

#39 thanks for the support.

Where does all this vitriol come from anyway? Are people so insecure about their opinions on these films that they need to silence those who don’t share them? Does my disliking of that movie affect your liking of it?

Remember the messages that Star Trek used to teach us before becoming an overblown action franchise that rips off the better movies in the franchise. IDIC people, IDIC

41. crazydaystrom - December 6, 2013

40. Nemesis4909
Where does all this vitriol come from anyway? Are people so insecure about their opinions on these films that they need to silence those who don’t share them? Does my disliking of that movie affect your liking of it?

It’s, too my mind, a very odd reflex. I dunno. The answer to your questions just might lie within the questions themselves. I really don’t get it.

42. I am to Smurfy - December 6, 2013

40)
I agree, people just can’t seem to take it on here if you don’t blindly agree with them.

I have said over and over again while Into Darkness disapointed me greatly, and is one of my least favorite movie going experiences this year for me personally. I can understand why others really like it.

There are plenty of films I love others hate, the great thing about film is its subjectiveness. Everyone has the ability to take away whatever they want from it.

43. Jon - December 6, 2013

#40

I’ll throw in my support for Nemesis4909, too. I have also encountered much of this hatred every time I dare say that STID was not very good and/or just not “Star Trek” to me, and then respectfully back up my statements with reasons why I believe as I do (no need to repeat myself yet again here on said reasons).

I just don’t get it…if you liked/loved STID, fine…no problem at all…and feel free to tell us all why the movie was so great in your opinion without all of the name calling (which is akin to what a child would do). It’s called a debate…I just had one with my office mate involving politics that was respectful even though we don’t agree on much on that front :) .

Nemesis: Well said to the rather rude and intolerant folks who don’t seem to be able to accept (at least not with any class) the fact that a lot of folks did not like STID (a lot more than I think is generally realized, IMHO), and that their opinion on the matter should be respected.

I continue to post on the matter here and there in the hopes that the powers-that-be somehow, someway take note and, at least on some conscious/subconscious level take it to heart and write/produce a better and actual “Star Trek” movie for the next go around…

Cheers!

44. Red Shirt Diaries - December 6, 2013

Here we go again — all the people who hate STID are using this Stellar Cartography article to bitch about JJ Trek.

45. Nemesis4909 - December 6, 2013

To be honest, all I did was come on here and comment on how much I want to own this obviously cool book.

I did make what was intended to be an off hand comment about the inclusion of the 2009 movie plotlines in there which I did not intend to turn into an Into Darkness discussion thread.

I pointed out that I don’t like those films and that’s really the end of it, it was more people complaining about the fact that I don’t like those films that escalated all this.

If everyone accepts that those films are not for everyone then we’ll all be able to move forward.

46. Ahmed - December 6, 2013

@ 44. Red Shirt Diaries – December 6, 2013

“Here we go again — all the people who hate STID are using this Stellar Cartography article to bitch about JJ Trek.”

And what is the problem here if people want to express their dislike for JJ Trek ?? No one is stopping you from gushing over JJ Trek

All opinions are valid, not just yours or mine.

47. Smike - December 6, 2013

@10: So true…and it’s not just the X-Men franchise that gets a huge push forward. There are going to be FOUR Marvel-based Netflix series, there is an upcoming Terminator TV series and it won’t take long for Star Wars to get a live-action TV spin-off… How much longer are we expected to wait?

Star Trek needs at least a big-screen adventure every other year and a 13 episode TV project à la Doctor Who… anything else is below the radar and won’t suffice to keep up any mainstream interest in the franchise! Peeps, we are facing serious SciFi / comic hero overload…
Marvel vs DC releasing up to 6 movies a year plus 5+ something TV / web shows, annual cinematic Star Wars and Avatar projects, Terminator and Jurassic Park reboots, an ongoing Planet of the Apes project and many more…It is now or never for CBS and Paramount… Get this flagship off the ground or be stranded for good…

48. Ahmed - December 6, 2013

Re-post from the other thread

>>Thanks to MJB for the heads up :)

===========================

‘Star Trek 3′ Beams Up Trio of Writers: J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay are set to tackle the third installment of the franchise alongside Roberto Orci.

J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay have been tapped to write Star Trek 3 for Paramount and Skydance Productions.

The duo will join Roberto Orci, who co-wrote the first two installments of the reboot with partner Alex Kurtzman and Damon Lindelof. Orci is working without Kurtzman on this one.

The next Star Trek film is untitled and unscheduled, but Paramount and Skydance are hoping to have a film in time for the franchise to celebrate its 50th anniversary in 2016. Stars Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto and Zoe Saldana are expected to return.

J.J. Abrams will not be helming the movie due to him directing Star Wars: Episode VII, but he will still be involved as a producer.

Star Trek 3 has no director at this stage, although Joe Cornish, who helmed the geek-favorite movie Attack the Block, is high on the wish list.

Payne and McKay already have a relationship with Abrams. The duo wrote the script adapting Boilerplate, the graphic novel by husband-and-wife comics team Paul Guinan and Anina Bennett.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-trek-3-beams-up-663729
===========================

49. DiscoSpock - December 6, 2013

Ahmed,

Please drop the policeman routine here. You, of all people, should not be policing anyone on their behavior here.

I think it is completely legitimate for people to ask why in an article on a Stellar Cartography Trek book do the nuTrek haters need to bring up STID?

Borrowing a page from your book, looks like you have “your gang” out in force on this one — Ahmed, I am too Smurphy, Jon, LogicalLeopard, etc. Call off your clone warriors, please.

50. Red Dead Ryan - December 6, 2013

This thread had nothing to do with STID….yet Nemesis4909 started all of this with some “classic” anti-nuTrek bashing. This is what “Ahmed’s Gang” members seem to overlook, all the while claiming to be “victims” here.

This is a classic example of bullying. Take some pot shots at nuTrek fans, and then conveniently play the victim card when “Ahmed’s Gang” starts losing the very fight they happened to start in the first place.

DISGRACEFUL!!!!

51. Ahmed - December 6, 2013

@ 49. DiscoSpock – December 6, 2013

“I think it is completely legitimate for people to ask why in an article on a Stellar Cartography Trek book do the nuTrek haters need to bring up STID?”

They didn’t ask, they told people to keep the opinion for themselves. The fact that the article is about Stellar Cartography is irrelevant. In every article on this site, people talk about lot of issues, beside the the main one mentioned in said article.

“Please drop the policeman routine here. You, of all people, should not be policing anyone on their behavior here.”

oh, you consider this policing:

“Just as you have all the right to express your love for NuTrek movies & STID, other people have the same right to express their dislike or hate for the same movies. It is called free speech :)”

52. Commodore Adams - December 6, 2013

This and the Federation book (with stand) are definite purchases for me. I have been waiting for a proper Federation cartography book with posters like this for decades, since I was a kid, I’ve wanted to see this amazing universe mapped out, and now it is. I have the Star Trek Star Charts book and it was great in its time, a first taste of trek cartography, but this book seems like it takes that much farther. I could see myself doing some high quality framing and hanging these up, especially the Vulcan poster. I am grateful and humbled books like this are published for the fans.

53. Ahmed - December 6, 2013

@ 50. Red Dead Ryan – December 6, 2013

Do you understand that everyone of Trekmovie can express their like or dislike of the movies ? Or do you think that we all must show our love for STID & should never ever say anything else ?

btw, there is new news about Star Trek XIII & all you care about is looking for another fight with the “haters” !!!!!

54. Jon - December 6, 2013

#49

Your assumption that there is a “gang” that Ahmed has unleashed is just that…an assumption. I have no connection to any of these folks other than over the fact that I apparently am in agreement with them that STID was lousy and not true to the ideals of ST. I happen to have enjoyed ST ’09 a lot and was really looking forward to the next installment being even better, but that’s not at all what I got after a long, 4 year wait, and I’m saying so.

But I will accede that you are correct in that this thread should just return to discussion on the book.

So…I will post no more on STID for this thread, and I’ll definitely have to check the book out, although it’s a bit pricey for me at this point :) .

55. Captain, USS Northstar - December 6, 2013

This looks like a beautiful addition to the Star Trek “reference library” right alongside my “StarFleet Technical Manual” and “Mr. Scott’s Guide to the Enterprise” and the collection of TOS’ Enterprise blueprints.

And what a great idea to create a short video to get us excited about the product — nice job.

Kudos all around on the article and congratulations to the author on an outstanding publication.

56. Everything for Free - December 6, 2013

Hopefully someone will put up scans of all this, can’t see why anyone would waste money buying it.

57. Larry Nemecek - December 7, 2013

Guys, thanks for all your comments. I invite you all over to my TREKLAND blog, including many, many vidchats with guests famous and not, including a couple of posts with BTS details on the maps and my history with Trek maps (way before my TNG Companion, Communicator, Fact Files, the Experience, ST Continues, etc… this was my FOURTH go-round with Trek map sets. ;-)

http://larrynemecek.blogspot.com/2013/06/my-secrets-out-and-you-can-order-it-now.html

58. Nemesis4909 - December 7, 2013

I’m sorry I brought it up, I genuinely am.

It was meant as an offhand comment in reference to the information given about the canonising of the events depicted in the 2009 movie. It’s in the article so really it does have something to do with the book.

If people had just ignored my comment and not made reference to it then we wouldn’t be in this situation right now. I don’t comment on everyone’s positive opinions of the movie.

59. crazydaystrom - December 7, 2013

57. Larry Nemecek

Thank YOU Larry for your contributions to and association with Star Trek all these years. I still have the 1992 1st edition of the TNG Companion ($13.00 US back then!) and many, many issues of Communicator and I still occasionally pull out one or two for a reread. I’ll have your Stellar Cartography Reference Library very soon and will be checking out your blog this weekend.

Again, thanks.

60. MJ - December 7, 2013

Ahmed,

Can you please call off your team of STID criticizers. This article is not about STID. It’s the same group of you over and over here. We get it, you all detest STID, OK?

61. MJ - December 7, 2013

Larry,

I’d like to apologize of behalf of us fans here that some of us have tried to use this article on your wonderful book to take potshots at STID.

62. Ahmed - December 7, 2013

@ 60. MJ – December 7, 2013

“Ahmed,

Can you please call off your team of STID criticizers. This article is not about STID. It’s the same group of you over and over here. We get it, you all detest STID, OK?”

Sorry, I can’t do that, because they are not my team or gang. Some people actually don’t like STID.

“This article is not about STID.”

Funny, then why you posted about Shatner old age makeup in the new writers article

63. Ahmed - December 7, 2013

@ 61. MJ – December 7, 2013

“Larry,

I’d like to apologize of behalf of us fans here that some of us have tried to use this article on your wonderful book to take potshots at STID.”

Dude, no one asked you to apologize for anyone. People can express their opinions as they wish, you don’t get to tell us what to say or not.

64. Viking - December 7, 2013

#20: “Haha. HOME worlds. Never type in a rush during a workshop break.”

LOL We’re all hip, brother. 15 minutes for a stale doughnut, a bottle of warm Yoo-Hoo, then back to the slave galley for more rowing. :-)

65. MJ - December 7, 2013

@63

I refuse to withdraw my apology. Larry deserves better than having you and others in the hate-nuTrek gang takeover the discussion here.

This is just wrong, and I hope Matt steps in soon to delete your and others posts here, including mine that responded to all of you.

66. Garak's Pride - December 7, 2013

To all the people out there trying to sabotage this articles comments section, please stop it immediately. This is not about getting another chance to criticize Into Darkness. This is about an author’s cool book, and with the author present here, it is frankly rude for all of you to be trying to hijack this comments section to continue your negativity on the Abrams films.

Matt Wright,

I recommend that you step in and start deleting posts here from the Into Darkness haters that are trying to sabotage this article’s comments section.

67. Ahmed - December 7, 2013

@ 65. MJ – December 7, 2013

“This is just wrong, and I hope Matt steps in soon to delete your and others posts here, including mine that responded to all of you.”

Of course, if you are the moderator, you would love nothing but delete any comments against STID. Guess what ? You are not the moderator here.

68. MJ - December 7, 2013

But are a “hijacker” here of this great guy’s — Larry Nemecek’s — really cool Star Trek reference book.

Shame on you!

69. MJ - December 7, 2013

But YOU are a “hijacker” here of this great guy’s — Larry Nemecek’s — really cool Star Trek reference book.

Shame on you!

70. Ahmed - December 7, 2013

@ 68. MJ – December 7, 2013

“But YOU are a “hijacker” here of this great guy’s — Larry Nemecek’s — really cool Star Trek reference book.
Shame on you!”

I guess you have trouble following the sequence of events here.

Nemesis4909 made a comment about STID, then two of your team/gang told him to shut up & keep his opinion for himself, then I posted asking that everyone respect the opinion of others.

So how about you stop acting hysterical & get your facts first before you make a comment.

71. MJ - December 7, 2013

@69. Nice job rewriting history. You and your gang are trying to turn this into a STID hate-fest — you, Nemesis4909, Smike and I am too Smurfy…some of the same usual suspects we always see doing this.

Call off your gang now, please. Let’s get back to Larry’s cool book, please.

72. DiscoSpock - December 7, 2013

Ahmed,

I agree with MJ here. Time to call off your STID-hate clone warriors now. Your gang’s had its’s fun, now please move along….

73. Ahmed - December 7, 2013

@ 70. DiscoSpock – December 7, 2013

“Ahmed,

I agree with MJ here. Time to call off your STID-hate clone warriors now. Your gang’s had its’s fun, now please move along….”

Now, you are acting like a drone. You already posted this very comment on the other thread. You don’t need to repeat yourself like a drone.

74. Ahmed - December 7, 2013

@ 70. MJ – December 7, 2013

“@69. Nice job rewriting history. You and your gang are trying to turn this into a STID hate-fest — you, Nemesis4909, Smike and I am too Smurfy…some of the same usual suspects we always see doing this.

Call off your gang now, please. Let’s get back to Larry’s cool book, please.”

lol, told you before, I don’t have a “gang”, unlike your gang.
But I agree that we can have our “argument” on another thread.

75. crazydaystrom - December 7, 2013

The bickering on this site is, with respect to Pink Floyd, nearly a laugh but really a cry. *shakes head*

But I’ve ordered my copy of the Reference Library so I’m feeling some ‘happy, happy, joy, joy’! So have at it guys. Tear each other apart.

76. Red Dead Ryan - December 7, 2013

Ahmed,

MJ was gracious enough to apologize for your poor behaviour you have displayed here. The least you can do is acknowledge that so we can all move on.

77. I am to Smurfy - December 8, 2013

Disco Spock “Borrowing a page from your book, looks like you have “your gang” out in force on this one — Ahmed, I am too Smurphy, Jon, LogicalLeopard, etc. Call off your clone warriors, please.”

Excuse me sir, but I am not out in force on anything, I made one comment about how some people on here cant accept that not everyone blindly likes something just because.

I will repeat myself again WHILE I (AS IN ME,MYSELF) MAY HAVE BEEN DISAPOINTED IN TREK INTO DARKNESS,I CAN APPRECIATE AND RESPECT WHY A NUMBER OF FANS ENJOYED IT”

Was that clear enough for you DiscoSpock.
Not everyone has to like something, not everyone has to agree.
Film is subjective everyone takes something different away.

And I will just add its nice to see a new product that is released tied to the prime universe. I will definately be picking up this book.

78. Nemesis4909 - December 8, 2013

Guys can we calm it down? All it ever was meant to be is an offhand comment in reference to something that was said in the article, that’s all.

I don’t like Into Darkness and I never will, I won’t presume to pretend I do or keep my opinion to myself about it, just as people don’t keep their opinions about liking it to themselves. I’m envious that people have managed to enjoy it actually, I didn’t want to hate it but I did anyway. I wish I could have liked it.

Anyway, that’s the last I’ll say on the matter on this thread. I apologise that my comment has escalated into all this and I’m sorry Larry.

79. T'cal - December 9, 2013

I want something new! I want a Franklin Mint-type offering that includes every ship named Enterprise as a highly detailed, and of the same scale that mounts on a wall or desk display. It would be a 3-D display with an the ocean as the base and a background that blended up from ocean to sky to space. In the ocean would be a schooner and an aircraft carrier. In the sky would be a space shuttle. In orbit would be the NX-01 and the NCC-1701, A, B, C, D, and E.The pieces would come out monthly or bi-monthly for a reasonable price of $29.95 to $39.95 each, depending on size, and the display would come out with the first ship for $49.95. Where do I sign up??

80. T'cal - December 9, 2013

And to the STID haters, Nemesis4909: stop apologizing. Tell them all to piss off. I liked it a lot and you didn’t. I’m not attacking you and you aren’t attacking me. It’s just different opinions, some by people who think there’s is more important than ours. Screw ‘em. Peace.

81. crazydaystrom - December 9, 2013

79. T’cal
It would be a 3-D display with an the ocean as the base and a background that blended up from ocean to sky to space. In the ocean would be a schooner and an aircraft carrier. In the sky would be a space shuttle. In orbit would be the NX-01 and the NCC-1701, A, B, C, D, and E.

And rising from the ocean would be the AU Enterprise! ;-)

But seriously I like your idea A LOT T’cal!! I would make those purchases. Maybe the right person will read your post and ‘make it so’ for the 50th.

82. cd - December 9, 2013

Reminds me of Star Trek Maps, which I haven’t thought about for years. I just found my copy, right behind my copy of Star Trek Spaceflight Chronology.

83. crazydaystrom - December 10, 2013

UPS just delivered mine and IT IS GORGEOUS!!! You MUST be proud of this Larry! Thanks for making my early Christmas gift to myself decision a no-brainer. It’s worth every penny!

Question:
Is the Vulcan script standardized? It’s beautiful.

84. crazydaystrom - December 10, 2013

Larry Nemecek if you happen to read this, I guess the script is obviously standardized. My real question is where can I see more of it?

85. Dswynne - December 10, 2013

I swear that the usual miscreants will never be content around here until Bad Robot has fulfilled its contractual agreement to produce the NuTrek films. Then they’ll gloat like the Lilliputians they are, claiming a victory that is all in their minds, even though everyone else has moved on. No wonder ‘Trek fandom has the reputation that it does…

86. I am not Herbert - December 10, 2013

…i know! …it’s embarrassing, isn’t it? =(

…these bitchy seagulls flying in and sh*ting on people with opinions they don’t like… it sucks!

…I wish they would get some manners, by gosh!

LESS INSULTS AND ACCUSATIONS PLEASE!! THANK YOU… =)

87. Blue Thunder - December 10, 2013

This is much better than his work on that lousy P2 clone Star Trek Continues. This is where his true talent lies.

88. Perplex - December 12, 2013

“Interestingly, the text regarding the Romulan Empire map alludes to an explosion that caused the destruction of the entire Romulan home star system (which happened in the Prime Universe in Star Trek 2009). It also states that the shock wave triggered by the explosion was thwarted thanks to “red matter” and claimed the life of Ambassador Spock. That tells us that the text of this book is written in the Prime Universe, after the incursion that sent Spock back in time and to the JJ verse.”

Damn. I’d rather have this charts without supernovas destroying capital planets of the star trek cosmos. I wish they would have seperated the two versions entirely.

89. Bytowner - December 14, 2013

Well, it’s done. And since CBS plans to keep product moving regarding both ‘verses (and the Mirror Universe and others as well), we’ll be living with it for a while yet.

Been having fun with this since getting it home in any case…pun not intended, mind you.

90. Cervantes - January 1, 2014

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